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| schestowitz | CrystalMath: for firefox/ff ? ;) | Aug 07 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | impossible! | Aug 07 00:00 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Aren't those wiped? And there are other platforms out there. | Aug 07 00:00 |
| Ariadne | i have to agree with CrystalMath here, i have problems understanding why 4chan would care | Aug 07 00:00 |
| schestowitz | sounds like straw man | Aug 07 00:00 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: if you configure firefox without telemetry, make says: "No files left to compile." | Aug 07 00:00 |
| CrystalMath | :P | Aug 07 00:00 |
| techrights-news | #LatteDock 0.10 Released with Support for Multiple, Floating Docks and Panels โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154252 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 07 00:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latte Dock 0.10 Released with Support for Multiple, Floating Docks and Panels | Tux Machines | Aug 07 00:00 | |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: Vengeance over "sneedacity"? | Aug 07 00:01 |
| schestowitz | in a world of "enemy of my enemy is my friend" just mention 4chan and win any argument | Aug 07 00:01 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: what did he do to sneedacity? | Aug 07 00:01 |
| CrystalMath | he did nothing | Aug 07 00:01 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: :-) | Aug 07 00:01 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Rather what he didn't do. | Aug 07 00:01 |
| Ariadne | XRevan86: why would 4chan care about sneedacity | Aug 07 00:01 |
| CrystalMath | so did most people on earth | Aug 07 00:01 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: error: "bad actor" detected by compiler | Aug 07 00:02 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: There was a poll on what name to choose for the project, and "sneedacity" won. | Aug 07 00:02 |
| XRevan86 | Then cookiengineer chose Tenacity anyway. | Aug 07 00:02 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: he did his own competing fork | Aug 07 00:02 |
| Ariadne | shrug | Aug 07 00:02 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: No, that's not correct. | Aug 07 00:02 |
| CrystalMath | these are different forks | Aug 07 00:02 |
| schestowitz | iirc, Tenacity was "already taken" | Aug 07 00:03 |
| schestowitz | by some "chan" | Aug 07 00:03 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Sneedacity was forked later as a protest to cookiengineer's choice of name for the fork that he founded. | Aug 07 00:03 |
| schestowitz | or so goes the story in MSM | Aug 07 00:03 |
| schestowitz | by MSM i mean BS sites like The Register | Aug 07 00:03 |
| Ariadne | all of this seems like a really | Aug 07 00:03 |
| Ariadne | who gives a shit | Aug 07 00:03 |
| Ariadne | topic | Aug 07 00:03 |
| schestowitz | very on-topic | Aug 07 00:04 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: exactly i mean it's quite difficult for me to believe this is so important | Aug 07 00:04 |
| schestowitz | I still don't know what will happen with that project | Aug 07 00:04 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: It was important enough to make a different fork called Sneedacity | Aug 07 00:04 |
| schestowitz | seems like the latest "safe" release was x.34 | Aug 07 00:04 |
| CrystalMath | that someone would go to any lengths, like if i lived *across* from this guy i would not bother to get up from my chair to ask him about it | Aug 07 00:04 |
| schestowitz | .3 or 0.4 | Aug 07 00:04 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: creating a fork is one button | Aug 07 00:05 |
| XRevan86 | It only exists because for the channers that is the name that Tenacity was supposed to have. | Aug 07 00:05 |
| MinceR | Serious Businessโข | Aug 07 00:05 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: with GUI | Aug 07 00:05 |
| *XRevan86 looks at the repo: wow, even they chose Libera. | Aug 07 00:05 | |
| schestowitz | likely one that entraps you in the same proprietary prison you need to take it away from | Aug 07 00:06 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: yes, and CatButts went there to implement 32-bit XP support | Aug 07 00:06 |
| schestowitz | need a new button, "fork and delete thus shithub" | Aug 07 00:06 |
| schestowitz | *this | Aug 07 00:06 |
| CrystalMath | because that's what he runs | Aug 07 00:06 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Libera should ban the chanops that kicked him, is that your point? | Aug 07 00:06 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: no | Aug 07 00:06 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: it's just that this behavior is horrible for software freedom | Aug 07 00:07 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: If he were to be kicked somewhere on EFnet, would that be a bad network too? | Aug 07 00:07 |
| CrystalMath | the chanops there are terrible | Aug 07 00:07 |
| CrystalMath | no | Aug 07 00:07 |
| CrystalMath | this is just evidence that there *is* a problem in free software | Aug 07 00:07 |
| CrystalMath | the problem is not IRC | Aug 07 00:07 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: The problem is not Libera? | Aug 07 00:07 |
| schestowitz | society in general | Aug 07 00:07 |
| CrystalMath | technically no but i connect libera ircops to the problem | Aug 07 00:07 |
| schestowitz | but different people handle it differently | Aug 07 00:08 |
| CrystalMath | if libera were to change its entire management, then it would maybe not be a problem | Aug 07 00:08 |
| schestowitz | some try to reconcile to the extent possible | Aug 07 00:08 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Thank you, I was scratching my head defending Libera against bogus accusations all this time, and it was never actually about Libera this whole time. | Aug 07 00:08 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: well i mean i refuse to connect to libera because of who is the staff tehre | Aug 07 00:09 |
| CrystalMath | *there | Aug 07 00:09 |
| CrystalMath | the problem is Fuchs, amdj, jose, nhandler, RichiH, and many more | Aug 07 00:09 |
| schestowitz | there is a deeper issue here | Aug 07 00:09 |
| schestowitz | to quote you, | Aug 07 00:09 |
| schestowitz | "Fuchs, amdj, jose, nhandler, RichiH" DO NOT represent the projects whose chats they oversee | Aug 07 00:10 |
| CrystalMath | if all of those were gone, and the new staff was pro-freedom of speech, and for "code is what matters, send all non-code-related complaints to /dev/null" | Aug 07 00:10 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: If only they were replaced with such decent people as rasengan, bagira, eskimo and l0deโฆ | Aug 07 00:10 |
| schestowitz | at the highest level of authority | Aug 07 00:10 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: eskimo really is good | Aug 07 00:10 |
| schestowitz | this creates something skin to conflict of interest | Aug 07 00:10 |
| schestowitz | they are given control over channels they MIGHT seek to undermine | Aug 07 00:10 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: I obviously didn't mean the ice cream, that's of course good stuff. | Aug 07 00:10 |
| schestowitz | this should never be allowed | Aug 07 00:10 |
| schestowitz | I point out to some shithub-hosted projects the same | Aug 07 00:10 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft attacks you | Aug 07 00:10 |
| MinceR | (1) revenge is sweet | Aug 07 00:10 |
| MinceR | (2) revenge is best served cold | Aug 07 00:11 |
| schestowitz | and you giver them control over your code!! | Aug 07 00:11 |
| MinceR | conclusion: revenge is ice cream | Aug 07 00:11 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: eskimo the person was a good guy there at freenode | Aug 07 00:11 |
| schestowitz | [20:30] <techrights-news> Worse than foolish to make #LibreOffice dependent on a manipulative censorship network of LibreOffice enemy, #Microsoft https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/08/06/importance-of-linkedin-pages/ see http://techrights.org/2020/06/28/linkedin-censorship/ | Aug 07 00:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | The importance of LinkedIn Pages for the LibreOffice Project - The Document Foundation Blog | Aug 07 00:11 | |
| CrystalMath | some details were brought to my attention | Aug 07 00:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When It Comes to Killing Businesses Microsoft Defends Its Crown | Techrights | Aug 07 00:11 | |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: No idea about how nice his words are, I only saw his name related to misconduct. | Aug 07 00:11 |
| schestowitz | eskima is best served cold | Aug 07 00:12 |
| schestowitz | to a polar bear | Aug 07 00:12 |
| schestowitz | "tradition" | Aug 07 00:12 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: like that one time he reported some FedEx guy? | Aug 07 00:13 |
| CrystalMath | i mean.... that isn't really important | Aug 07 00:13 |
| CrystalMath | on freenode he truly did his best | Aug 07 00:13 |
| Ariadne | to be honest, you are right, he was ultimately harmless there | Aug 07 00:14 |
| Ariadne | but, still, one should vet their staff | Aug 07 00:15 |
| Ariadne | since andrew didn't, i decided to do it for him | Aug 07 00:15 |
| MinceR | if only old freenode and oftc vetted theirs | Aug 07 00:15 |
| Ariadne | freenode was on kitchen nightmares, and i was mad like gordon ramsay | Aug 07 00:15 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: well you never said anything against the one who was behind most of the decisions that got people out | Aug 07 00:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: vetted for loyalty | Aug 07 00:16 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: you mean rasengan? | Aug 07 00:16 |
| MinceR | maybe then they wouldn't help people like amdj, jose, nhandler and RichiH attack free software | Aug 07 00:16 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: nope | Aug 07 00:16 |
| Ariadne | oh, i'd love to hear your theory on this | Aug 07 00:16 |
| Ariadne | it sounds fascinating | Aug 07 00:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | we once hired a machead | Aug 07 00:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | and some other idiots | Aug 07 00:16 |
| MinceR | while posing as the places to discuss free software | Aug 07 00:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | ousted only after doing tons of damage | Aug 07 00:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | eff is a cautionary tale | Aug 07 00:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | run by some decent people living alongside idiots | Aug 07 00:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the idiots became more visible | Aug 07 00:17 |
| Ariadne | how is amdj attacking software freedom ? | Aug 07 00:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | (I don't mean that lightly btw) | Aug 07 00:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on years of evidence piling up | Aug 07 00:18 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: amdj signed the petition against RMS | Aug 07 00:19 |
| Ariadne | and? | Aug 07 00:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need more efvidence | Aug 07 00:19 |
| Ariadne | i thought you believed in free speech | Aug 07 00:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | that sigs were partly added based on tricking people | Aug 07 00:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and by mass-mailing orgs | Aug 07 00:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | I know stories | Aug 07 00:20 |
| Ariadne | no, it's more fundamental than that | Aug 07 00:20 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: do you believe in free speech or not | Aug 07 00:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | ibm money and google/microsoft/others revealed their true goals | Aug 07 00:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | and their methods | Aug 07 00:20 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: well he has a right to despise software freedom | Aug 07 00:20 |
| MinceR | canceling people to make way for a corporate takeover is now "free speech"? | Aug 07 00:20 |
| Ariadne | it is possible to dislike RMS and believe in software freedom | Aug 07 00:21 |
| CrystalMath | but why pretend to run an IRC network for that? | Aug 07 00:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: it is | Aug 07 00:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | but not speech I am compelled to like | Aug 07 00:21 |
| Ariadne | even RMS will tell you that | Aug 07 00:21 |
| MinceR | it is possible to dislike RMS and yet not accuse him of saying things he did not say | Aug 07 00:21 |
| Ariadne | go on, write him, rms@gnu.org | Aug 07 00:21 |
| MinceR | it is possible to dislike RMS and yet not cancel him | Aug 07 00:21 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: i believe it's ultimately detrimental to software freedom when you care about stupid stuff rather than actually giving individual users power | Aug 07 00:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was not about dislking him, either | Aug 07 00:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | in 2019 they covered up for criminal gates | Aug 07 00:22 |
| Ariadne | i know amdj to be somebody who strongly believes in giving individual users power | Aug 07 00:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | by making false allusions to RMS | Aug 07 00:22 |
| Ariadne | it is why i put atheme in his hands | Aug 07 00:22 |
| MinceR | also, am i free to hate people for revealing themselves as being IBM's anti-free software patsies via using free speech? | Aug 07 00:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | in 2021 they realised people knew it was a lie | Aug 07 00:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they changed goalposts | Aug 07 00:22 |
| MinceR | individual users, as long as they're loyal to IBM? | Aug 07 00:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | to some other and newer lies | Aug 07 00:22 |
| Ariadne | MinceR: sure | Aug 07 00:22 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: and then he signed a petition asking the FSF to get rid of the guy who is the ideologist of free software just because he allegedly doesn't care about minorities in tech? | Aug 07 00:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | allegedly | Aug 07 00:23 |
| Ariadne | i mean, maybe you should ask him why he signed it | Aug 07 00:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | rememember that rms is alsoa minority | Aug 07 00:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | old | Aug 07 00:23 |
| MinceR | maybe we should read what he signed | Aug 07 00:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | appaently with disabnility | Aug 07 00:23 |
| MinceR | it is generally a good idea to read what you sign, before you sign it | Aug 07 00:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | *disability | Aug 07 00:23 |
| MinceR | and it is a statement after all | Aug 07 00:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will never sympathise with people who bash him over alleged "autosm" | Aug 07 00:23 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz-TR: well RMS said it's a plus to have different people in software projects, that's a point against this allegation, but he also said that it's wrong to put this into the priority projects list | Aug 07 00:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | the moment you mock a disabled person I will never forgive you | Aug 07 00:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | we donmate to blind people every month | Aug 07 00:24 |
| Ariadne | anyway | Aug 07 00:24 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz-TR: never? | Aug 07 00:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | need clarification or apology | Aug 07 00:24 |
| CrystalMath | i mean, yeah it does suck to do so, but *never* forgive? | Aug 07 00:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | if they do it over the disability | Aug 07 00:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | which seems applicable to some in this case | Aug 07 00:25 |
| CrystalMath | okay, i understand what you mean | Aug 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | BTW, Phipps signed: | Aug 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/10/11/osi-and-rms/ | Aug 07 00:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Open Source Initiative Cannot Lecture People on Manners and Tolerance (and Probably Never Could) | Techrights | Aug 07 00:25 | |
| schestowitz | so he has lots of splaining to do | Aug 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz | his statement is highly offensive to million | Aug 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz | he just growled when we pointed this out | Aug 07 00:25 |
| schestowitz | because he knew he was deep in trouble | Aug 07 00:26 |
| CrystalMath | i mean i use the word "retarded" to refer to things that are badly designed, people that simply have bad conduct, and ideas that i think won't work... sometimes even just for things that are late, as a pun in french | Aug 07 00:26 |
| schestowitz | for dumb "tweets" | Aug 07 00:26 |
| schestowitz | social control media is a liability | Aug 07 00:26 |
| schestowitz | like some british 'edu' minister making comments in reply tweets about the "tits" or some girl under 18 | Aug 07 00:26 |
| schestowitz | he had to resign | Aug 07 00:26 |
| CrystalMath | but the UK age of consent is 16 | Aug 07 00:27 |
| schestowitz | the tolerance crowd that brands itself around it fails to self-assess | Aug 07 00:27 |
| schestowitz | it is a skill | Aug 07 00:27 |
| schestowitz | accusing others of what you yourself are doing | Aug 07 00:27 |
| schestowitz | and then still doing. repeatedly | Aug 07 00:27 |
| schestowitz | "We are the good guys... KILL ALL THOSE OTHER PEOPLE" - religions/cults | Aug 07 00:28 |
| schestowitz | Muslims: look at how they expose women's bodies. Disgusting | Aug 07 00:28 |
| schestowitz | Non-Muslims: look how they beat up women. Disgusting. | Aug 07 00:28 |
| *inky is now known as inky_afk | Aug 07 00:30 | |
| techrights-news | No, Fortune. MUCH of today's Wall Street is STILL a bubble if not Ponzi Scheme. Just keep on faking the value of firms while scuttling regulatory agencies (as BOTH corporate parties do) https://fortune.com/2021/08/04/why-the-ipo-markets-arent-quite-the-dotcom-bubble-all-over-again/ | Aug 07 00:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why the IPO markets arenโt quite the dotcom bubble all over again | Fortune | Aug 07 00:31 | |
| techrights-news | Wall Street: LOOK AT ALL THOSE "SUCCESSFUL" TRILLION-DOLLAR COMPANIES WITH QUARTERLY LOSSES. GOD BLESS 'MURICA! | Aug 07 00:32 |
| techrights-news | #microsoft https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/29/mailgun_chipotle_malware_spam/ | Aug 07 00:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Spam is Chipotle's secret ingredient: Marketing email hijacked to dish up malware โข The Register | Aug 07 00:33 | |
| *inky_afk is now known as inky | Aug 07 00:34 | |
| techrights-news | #microsoft #security and #apple security, like their #greeenwashing , is 100% lies, 0% truth. Proper security is NOT the goal. It's #marketing | Aug 07 00:34 |
| techrights-news | Smoking kills. So does the assumption #google #ibm #microsoft and #apple TRULY value #security http://techrights.org/2021/01/30/fake-security/ | Aug 07 00:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Fake Security is Still a Real Problem, Even in the GNU/Linux (and BSD) Spheres | Techrights | Aug 07 00:35 | |
| techrights-news | Famous last words: we outsourced to #microsoft / #github | Aug 07 00:36 |
| gustaf | the thing with old freenode and Libera is - the staff doesn't interfere with channels, unless it's spamming, or behavior against ToS | Aug 07 00:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | false | Aug 07 00:38 |
| gustaf | new Freenode had staff pursuing personal vendettas | Aug 07 00:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | false | Aug 07 00:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | old staff did that too | Aug 07 00:38 |
| gustaf | really | Aug 07 00:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Aug 07 00:38 |
| gustaf | cf. Bagira | Aug 07 00:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | http://techrights.org/2021/05/08/communication-channels-cancel-mobbed/ | Aug 07 00:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Pro-Software Freedom Advocates and Free/Libre Software Supporters Face Barriers Due to Domination of Communication Channels (Beyond the Media) | Techrights | Aug 07 00:38 | |
| schestowitz-TR | censorship keeps the censorship hidden | Aug 07 00:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | famous snake-eat-snake recursion | Aug 07 00:38 |
| gustaf | ok so old Freenode would waltz in to pro-RMS channels and take them over? | Aug 07 00:39 |
| gustaf | I mean, new Freenode THREW OUT THE FSF | Aug 07 00:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's not what it says | Aug 07 00:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | these are the same people who now run LC | Aug 07 00:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and OFTC | Aug 07 00:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | some overlaps | Aug 07 00:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | the solution is not to select better | Aug 07 00:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | but to self-host | Aug 07 00:40 |
| gustaf | ok, show me logs where they have kicked people, or taken over channels, for expressing pro-RMS sentiments | Aug 07 00:40 |
| gustaf | if you can I'll be satisfied | Aug 07 00:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | the platforms should be 'in cahoots' with the projects under their wing | Aug 07 00:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | gustaf: privacy violation | Aug 07 00:41 |
| MinceR | for some, a better choice would work | Aug 07 00:41 |
| gustaf | or rather, ask in #fsf if they're unhappy with being hosted on Libera | Aug 07 00:41 |
| MinceR | but that's neither freenode, nor illibera, nor oftc | Aug 07 00:41 |
| gustaf | they hold board meetings there | Aug 07 00:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | I asked RMS | Aug 07 00:41 |
| MinceR | we'll see how long they'll be happy | Aug 07 00:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | LC was not a first choice | Aug 07 00:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | urgent compromise | Aug 07 00:41 |
| MinceR | and how long IBM management will be able to hold off giving them orders to remove people | Aug 07 00:41 |
| gustaf | smdh | Aug 07 00:42 |
| gustaf | over an IRC network | Aug 07 00:42 |
| gustaf | ok | Aug 07 00:42 |
| gustaf | *channel | Aug 07 00:42 |
| MinceR | i doubt they've given up already | Aug 07 00:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are still at it | Aug 07 00:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | libc was days ago | Aug 07 00:42 |
| MinceR | they'll probably need to hurry it up, actually | Aug 07 00:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | Panzers out soon | Aug 07 00:42 |
| MinceR | the longer they wait, the more time the projects and people moving to one of the BSD-s have | Aug 07 00:43 |
| CrystalMath | embarassingly i suggested OFTC to RMS and only later learned of what they did | Aug 07 00:43 |
| gustaf | in the log, provided by me to Techrights, detailing the takeover of #fsf, @goes mentioned that there's no way the FSF IT staff can handle running their own IRC server | Aug 07 00:43 |
| gustaf | and I'd trust his word | Aug 07 00:43 |
| CrystalMath | what a fool i was... OFTC is way worse than illibera could ever be | Aug 07 00:43 |
| MinceR | there are hundreds of IRC networks | Aug 07 00:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | gustaf: RMS said the same | Aug 07 00:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | sort of | Aug 07 00:43 |
| MinceR | most of them aren't run by IBM's chained dogs | Aug 07 00:43 |
| MinceR | i even suggested one of them to the FSF as an option | Aug 07 00:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | IBM can also infiltrate networks | Aug 07 00:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | with money and stuff | Aug 07 00:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | IBM has loads of footsoldiers | Aug 07 00:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | like quarter million | Aug 07 00:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | to avoid any future hopping fsf could turn their subset placeholder/pointer into a real thing | Aug 07 00:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they lacked the time | Aug 07 00:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | frfeenode was crashing too fast | Aug 07 00:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2 days later they wipes the db | Aug 07 00:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | on a sunday iirc | Aug 07 00:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | fsf barely managed to even get the word oiut by then | Aug 07 00:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and fsf's site RE-posted it | Aug 07 00:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | Friday to Sunday | Aug 07 00:46 |
| Noisytoot | <gustaf> ok so old Freenode would waltz in to pro-RMS channels and take them over? | Aug 07 00:50 |
| Noisytoot | old freenode didn't take over #free-rms or ##rms | Aug 07 00:50 |
| Noisytoot | new freenode took over #free-rms | Aug 07 00:50 |
| XRevan86 | Noisytoot: "new freenode took over #free-rms" โ they did? what did they do? :) | Aug 07 00:51 |
| MinceR | iirc CrystalMath mentioned old-freenode/illibera staff doing something unjust to channels based on political stance | Aug 07 00:51 |
| gustaf | being staff on a big IRC network is being stewards, not people giving orders | Aug 07 00:51 |
| MinceR | many people disagree, sadly | Aug 07 00:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | it you vet people right | Aug 07 00:51 |
| gustaf | yep | Aug 07 00:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | and do governance right | Aug 07 00:51 |
| Noisytoot | XRevan86, it mentioned libera in the topic. freenodecom joined, changed the topic, set +fim ##free-rms, and cleared the access list | Aug 07 00:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | it starts with "good intentions" | Aug 07 00:52 |
| Noisytoot | and ##free-rms was owned by an anti-rms troll | Aug 07 00:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | later it slips out of control | Aug 07 00:52 |
| XRevan86 | Noisytoot: Ah, classic. | Aug 07 00:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | you need to step out BEFORE it slips out of control | Aug 07 00:52 |
| gustaf | Noisytoot: remember when that stuff was the new shocking thhing Freenode did? | Aug 07 00:52 |
| gustaf | how naive we were | Aug 07 00:52 |
| gustaf | ok time for bed | Aug 07 00:52 |
| gustaf | bbl | Aug 07 00:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | kk | Aug 07 00:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | freenode: free as in lee | Aug 07 00:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | his highness :-) | Aug 07 00:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | monarchy liberates | Aug 07 00:54 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 07 00:55 |
| techrights-news | #Microsoft #propaganda site reviews a #GNU #Linux based machine https://www.geekwire.com/2021/hands-steam-deck-heres-expect-valves-portable-powerful-gaming-pc/ | Aug 07 00:55 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Freedom can only be defended by a strong will and a strong hand! | Aug 07 00:55 |
| MinceR | his imperial cokedness | Aug 07 00:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | sounds like a poultry product | Aug 07 00:56 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i suspect that powerful weapons can substitute for strong hands | Aug 07 00:56 |
| XRevan86 | So a monarch is a natural choice. | Aug 07 00:56 |
| MinceR | i have yet to see a strong monarch | Aug 07 00:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | wqe have 'prince' Drew here | Aug 07 00:57 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Strong as steel! | Aug 07 00:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | so floppy he needed puberty-ish girls | Aug 07 00:57 |
| XRevan86 | A man of steel, a steel-in, a Stalin | Aug 07 00:57 |
| MinceR | steel can't move objects, so its strength is a nonability | Aug 07 00:57 |
| XRevan86 | that's whom freedom needs | Aug 07 00:57 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Ye just didn't realise that it's a Stalin pun :) | Aug 07 00:58 |
| techrights-news | #Bangladesh #covid19 https://www.thedailystar.net/health/disease/coronavirus/news/covid-death-toll-crosses-20000-mark-2139306 | Aug 07 00:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thedailystar.net | Covid death toll crosses 20,000-mark | The Daily Star | Aug 07 00:59 | |
| XRevan86 | Stalin is derived from Stahl, i.e. steel | Aug 07 00:59 |
| techrights-news | #SteamDeck hands-on: PC power with console conveniences https://www.pcgamer.com/steam-deck-hands-on-preview/ #archlinux #gnu #linux #games | Aug 07 01:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcgamer.com | Steam Deck hands-on: PC power with console conveniences | PC Gamer | Aug 07 01:00 | |
| techrights-news | Companies run by a bunch of dicks. https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/03/blizzard_management_reshuffle/ | Aug 07 01:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Blizzard president, HR chief exit games giant in wake of sexual harassment uproar โข The Register | Aug 07 01:01 | |
| XRevan86 | not his real last name of course | Aug 07 01:01 |
| techrights-news | Eureka! Playing Vulkan Games in Crostini โ https://chromeunboxed.com/eureka-playing-vulkan-games-in-crostini/ even better: wipe the #malware (yes, #chromeos is not a 'proper' distro) and use 'real' #gnu #linux | Aug 07 01:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chromeunboxed.com | Eureka! Playing Vulkan Games in Crostini | Aug 07 01:02 | |
| MinceR | XRevan86: meh | Aug 07 01:02 |
| MinceR | next you'll be telling me that stalin was Red Son | Aug 07 01:02 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: ะงะตัะฒะพะฝะพะฒะธั? | Aug 07 01:03 |
| XRevan86 | A real surname, neat. | Aug 07 01:03 |
| techrights-news | So far I've managed to see no more than one #photograph of this thing I'm told exists, Olympic Games in Japan (will thankfully be over soon). Thanks in part to gemini:// (weeding out all the fluff and noise) | Aug 07 01:04 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman:_Red_Son | Aug 07 01:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Superman: Red Son - Wikipedia | Aug 07 01:04 | |
| XRevan86 | > super may: red soy | Aug 07 01:04 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Is he a vegeterian? | Aug 07 01:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: try "Red Shield" :-p | Aug 07 01:05 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 07 01:05 |
| MinceR | that's Supeya Yaed Mai Soi to you | Aug 07 01:06 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโโ โ โ โโโโโโ โโโ โโโ โโโโโโโโ โโโโโโโโ โโ โ โโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 28.93 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโ โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 107.23โ swarm size (avg): 278.97 โฒ | Aug 07 01:06 |
| MinceR | or Sureya Yaed Mai Soi | Aug 07 01:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, lots of violance in joseph's childhood | Aug 07 01:07 |
| MinceR | lots of violence in joseph's later life too | Aug 07 01:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the dodumentary I watched was like.... more than a decade ago | Aug 07 01:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: retaliation | Aug 07 01:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | payback time! | Aug 07 01:07 |
| MinceR | i liked the move The Death of Stalin though | Aug 07 01:07 |
| MinceR | s/ve/vie/ | Aug 07 01:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | banned, obviously | Aug 07 01:07 |
| MinceR | in russia? | Aug 07 01:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah,. iirc | Aug 07 01:08 |
| MinceR | sucks to be them | Aug 07 01:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | I want to see a "Death of Putin" movie | Aug 07 01:08 |
| MinceR | i want that too | Aug 07 01:08 |
| MinceR | but i want it to be a documentary | Aug 07 01:08 |
| MinceR | and i want to see it real soon | Aug 07 01:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | let me find something... | Aug 07 01:08 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I've found it to be very unfunny. But it's not my type of humour. | Aug 07 01:09 |
| schestowitz | https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/north-korea-hack-reveals-seth-4804837 | Aug 07 01:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mirror.co.uk | North Korea: Hack reveals Seth Rogen forced to change Kim Jong-un exploding head death scene in The Interview - World News - Mirror Online | Aug 07 01:09 | |
| schestowitz | us already films death of still-living enemies | Aug 07 01:09 |
| schestowitz | https://thediplomat.com/2014/06/no-north-korea-did-not-threaten-war-over-seth-rogan-movie/ | Aug 07 01:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thediplomat.com | No, North Korea Did NOT Threaten War Over Seth Rogen Movie โ The Diplomat | Aug 07 01:09 | |
| XRevan86 | I didn't find it particularly daring either. | Aug 07 01:09 |
| schestowitz | https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/25/north-korea-merciless-response-us-kim-jong-un-film | Aug 07 01:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | North Korea threatens 'merciless' response over Seth Rogen film | North Korea | The Guardian | Aug 07 01:09 | |
| schestowitz | notice how many faked stories and headlines | Aug 07 01:09 |
| MinceR | i think the way the politicians "revised their views" at the drop of a hat several times in response to events was hilarious | Aug 07 01:09 |
| schestowitz | shows you why MSM is a waste of time at best... | Aug 07 01:10 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: how should it have been daring? | Aug 07 01:10 |
| *inky is now known as inky_afk | Aug 07 01:11 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I'm not a film maker, how should I know :) | Aug 07 01:11 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: bayonet up the arse? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlz3-OzcExI | Aug 07 01:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Clinton on Qaddafi: We came, we saw, he died - YouTube | Aug 07 01:11 | |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 07 01:11 |
| XRevan86 | I did like the effect it had on the Russian censorship institutions though. | Aug 07 01:11 |
| schestowitz | she did not say HOW he died | Aug 07 01:11 |
| schestowitz | maybe that would have gotten BIll hard | Aug 07 01:12 |
| schestowitz | the hunsband | Aug 07 01:12 |
| XRevan86 | Suddenly they're deeply concerned. | Aug 07 01:12 |
| schestowitz | not the now-single Gates | Aug 07 01:12 |
| MinceR | by it being not as daring the russian institutions show themselves to be even more cowardly | Aug 07 01:12 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I think they just didn't know the history and the context well enough to represent the reality better. It felt too detached from this world. | Aug 07 01:13 |
| MinceR | what were they wrong about? | Aug 07 01:13 |
| XRevan86 | and when it's too detached, then it's not really about Stalin or Khruschev or Beria | Aug 07 01:13 |
| MinceR | maybe the state just lied too much to you | Aug 07 01:14 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Not enough villainy for one thing. | Aug 07 01:14 |
| MinceR | maybe they thought it would have seemed unrealistic | Aug 07 01:14 |
| MinceR | nazis and commies make cartoon villains look good | Aug 07 01:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: are those mutually exclusive? | Aug 07 01:14 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: The Soviet mentality and the viewpoint of that time was completely absent. | Aug 07 01:15 |
| MinceR | schestowitz-TR: which ones? | Aug 07 01:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | there are some overlaps | Aug 07 01:15 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i thought that was what i saw in the movie, but maybe i didn't know enough about it | Aug 07 01:15 |
| MinceR | schestowitz-TR: nazis and commies? certainly not | Aug 07 01:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I find that baffling when presented as separables | Aug 07 01:15 |
| XRevan86 | It's echoing to this day, so I would've immediately noticed if it were there. | Aug 07 01:15 |
| MinceR | fidSS is both, for example | Aug 07 01:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | one is economic | Aug 07 01:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless you mean Stalinist/Boshievik/.Soviet | Aug 07 01:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | Nazism was not about economics | Aug 07 01:16 |
| MinceR | schestowitz-TR: consider that nazism was constructed as a mess of many ideologies including "socialism", with many conflicts | Aug 07 01:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | even the name of the party | Aug 07 01:16 |
| MinceR | which is not an issue since such people won't enforce their own ideologies anyway unless it's convenient to them | Aug 07 01:16 |
| MinceR | again, fidSS is a good example of that | Aug 07 01:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | fidDeath | Aug 07 01:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | not fidSS | Aug 07 01:17 |
| MinceR | especially when the gypsy king and Fucker Carlson suck up to each other nowadays | Aug 07 01:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a hard jobbbbick kkkeeping abrease | Aug 07 01:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | *st | Aug 07 01:17 |
| MinceR | while the gypsy king claims publicly that making people wear masks and get vaccines was a good idea, while Fucker claims the opposite | Aug 07 01:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: People say HBO's Chernobyl' did a good job, but I haven't checked it out myself. | Aug 07 01:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: yes, I read about the Carlson/Orban thing | Aug 07 01:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | kakistocrasy is a thing now | Aug 07 01:18 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: 80s and 50s are different times, but still. | Aug 07 01:18 |
| MinceR | and allegedly Fucker Carlson also attacks red china while the gypsy king is spending 700 billion HUF on having an alleged "university" (really more like a brainwashing center) for the communist party of china in a place where we were supposed to have housing for students | Aug 07 01:18 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i don't really see the conflict between the Chernobyl series and The Death of Stalin | Aug 07 01:18 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: the same doublethink, posturing, ignoring facts | Aug 07 01:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | Orban is imporovising | Aug 07 01:19 |
| MinceR | it's all about power, money and making people miserable | Aug 07 01:19 |
| MinceR | authoritarianism. | Aug 07 01:19 |
| MinceR | the symbols don't really matter | Aug 07 01:19 |
| MinceR | the state religion doesn't really matter | Aug 07 01:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | hungary still second deadliest wrt covid | Aug 07 01:19 |
| MinceR | control freakery matters | Aug 07 01:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | peru is miles ahead | Aug 07 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | but... peru | Aug 07 01:20 |
| MinceR | shitting on everyone who is not in the Inner Party matters | Aug 07 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | indiginous people and poverty | Aug 07 01:20 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I mean, it takes talent to create an immersive environment that makes one suspend disbelief. What I saw in Death of Stalin was a bunch of English folk goofing around on camera. | Aug 07 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: maybe the EPO will run by Mihaly in a couple of years | Aug 07 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | if so, get popcorn | Aug 07 01:20 |
| MinceR | forcing people to profess beliefs fervently while the dictator might not even believe them himself | Aug 07 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | there will be rubble | Aug 07 01:20 |
| MinceR | schestowitz-TR: mihaly or no, the EU is already destroying itself, and the gypsy king is merely one of the tools of that destruction | Aug 07 01:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah, and Erdogan | Aug 07 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | enemy of my enemy = ally for turkey and hungaristan | Aug 07 01:23 |
| MinceR | and putin, and duterte, and trump | Aug 07 01:24 |
| MinceR | and kaczynski | Aug 07 01:24 |
| MinceR | and the EPP, and the ECR, and the ID, and all the tories of the planet | Aug 07 01:25 |
| techrights-news | #SteamDeck Using Linux Explained http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154253#comment-30483 #archlinux #gnu #linux #games | Aug 07 01:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Godot Engine, Valve, and Vulkan support in Crostini | Tux Machines | Aug 07 01:25 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Whatever, it's just a silly comedy that pretends to denunciate Stalin's cult of personality, while having only one or two serious scenes in it. | Aug 07 01:25 |
| XRevan86 | and not a funny comedy, that's also a miss | Aug 07 01:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'comedy' | Aug 07 01:27 |
| MinceR | it was funny to me | Aug 07 01:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | many don't feel like it | Aug 07 01:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | like scary movies that are not | Aug 07 01:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | cradles and stuff | Aug 07 01:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | I like to ruin these movies by interjecting comedies | Aug 07 01:28 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's probably the core of our disagreement. Ye liked the humour, I didn't. | Aug 07 01:28 |
| MinceR | schestowitz-TR: that does not necessarily ruin them | Aug 07 01:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne wonders why she never saw me shed a tear | Aug 07 01:29 |
| MinceR | iirc Scream 2 was already both a scary movie and a parody of scary movies | Aug 07 01:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | not even with movies | Aug 07 01:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: yes, that too | Aug 07 01:29 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Did ye see Pixar's Coco? | Aug 07 01:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | some movies are scary when watch on one's own or very high volume level with volume contrast | Aug 07 01:29 |
| MinceR | chanel? | Aug 07 01:29 |
| *XRevan86 clarified on Pixar but MinceR made that joke anyway :) | Aug 07 01:30 | |
| schestowitz-TR | but you can be qually scared at home if the sudden loud noise is heard, it's an instinct | Aug 07 01:30 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 07 01:30 |
| MinceR | schestowitz-TR: jumpscares are a seriously low brow way of attempting to make a scary movie anyway | Aug 07 01:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: Rocko Channel | Aug 07 01:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | oops, wrong channel, sorry | Aug 07 01:31 |
| MinceR | also, disney owns pixar, so it could be anything at this point | Aug 07 01:31 |
| MinceR | https://totalannihilation.fandom.com/wiki/Rocko | Aug 07 01:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-totalannihilation.fandom.com | Rocko | Total Annihilation Wiki | Fandom | Aug 07 01:31 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Even Chanel? | Aug 07 01:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: no, pr0n | Aug 07 01:32 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i don't know | Aug 07 01:32 |
| XRevan86 | Anyway, it's one of the best films Pixar has produced for sure. | Aug 07 01:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | pixar as a brand has languished | Aug 07 01:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | like star wars | Aug 07 01:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | lucas studios | Aug 07 01:32 |
| MinceR | probably so does everything disney touches | Aug 07 01:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait, I based on EPO meme on that | Aug 07 01:33 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/depressed-george-lucas-disney-starwars-meme-with-ffpe-epo.jpg | Aug 07 01:33 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: No, Pixar is still a strong brand, even when owned by Disney. | Aug 07 01:34 |
| XRevan86 | Disney bought Licas Films for the Star Wars brand, but they bought Pixar for Pixar. | Aug 07 01:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | perens distances himself from pixar | Aug 07 01:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, due to sexual abuses | Aug 07 01:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | which he doesn't want to associate with | Aug 07 01:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | since he kept pushing so hard how pixar was all awesome | Aug 07 01:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | and basing a lot of debian on pixar shilling | Aug 07 01:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | the mailing lists' hosting, code names, and more | Aug 07 01:35 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 07 01:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | pixar movies were never that good | Aug 07 01:36 |
| MinceR | and debian went to shit | Aug 07 01:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | the effects were nice, but that was it | Aug 07 01:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | debian still works tbh | Aug 07 01:36 |
| MinceR | "works" | Aug 07 01:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | better than the "pure" IBM douche | Aug 07 01:36 |
| *XRevan86 opens the list of Pixar films. | Aug 07 01:36 | |
| MinceR | like windows | Aug 07 01:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | windows is miles worse | Aug 07 01:36 |
| MinceR | there isn't that much of a difference anymore | Aug 07 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne uses debian | Aug 07 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | she finds the OS easy | Aug 07 01:37 |
| MinceR | my condolences | Aug 07 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | kde 5.22 | Aug 07 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc | Aug 07 01:37 |
| MinceR | many people find windows and macos to be easy as well | Aug 07 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | she will wake up in a few hours at 5am... to bake veggie pie | Aug 07 01:37 |
| MinceR | doesn't mean either of them are worth trusting with anything serious | Aug 07 01:37 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Is Inside Out not good for another thing? | Aug 07 01:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | ? | Aug 07 01:38 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: "pixar movies were never that good" | Aug 07 01:39 |
| techrights-news | RMS: " #Disney is reopening and rehiring old workers โ for less pay, no benefits, and worse conditions." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-may-aug.html#5_August_2021_(Disney_rehiring_workers) | Aug 07 01:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: May - August Political Notes - Richard Stallman | Aug 07 01:39 | |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: didn't watch it | Aug 07 01:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | I cannot name even one movie of theirs that I liked | Aug 07 01:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | I liked only the effects | Aug 07 01:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | which iirc they rendered on sun solaris | Aug 07 01:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | at least some unix in earlier days | Aug 07 01:40 |
| techrights-news | #intel now exploits #Olympics BS to sell BS 'tech'. Intel is a fossil. Get our while you can! http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks | Aug 07 01:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights | Aug 07 01:41 | |
| MinceR | sadly, not a lot of choice of CPU vendors in sub-1kg laptops | Aug 07 01:42 |
| techrights-news | "I love showing real-world problems being solved through the use of shell scripting." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkXyXIs-ZMI #gnu #linux | Aug 07 01:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Want A List Of Your Keybindings? Write A Shell Script! - YouTube | Aug 07 01:42 | |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: intel? | Aug 07 01:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | they tend to make HEAVIER thing | Aug 07 01:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | *things | Aug 07 01:43 |
| MinceR | yes, intel | Aug 07 01:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | i think my side laptop is about 1.5kg | Aug 07 01:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | which laptop is under 1kg | Aug 07 01:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | ? | Aug 07 01:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now tiny | Aug 07 01:44 |
| MinceR | my Asus ExpertBook B9 is 990g | Aug 07 01:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | *not | Aug 07 01:44 |
| MinceR | there's a 880g version, but naturally, you won't find that in hungary | Aug 07 01:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | 14 inches? | Aug 07 01:45 |
| MinceR | yes | Aug 07 01:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems bundled with Microsoft | Aug 07 01:46 |
| MinceR | in about the same footprint as the one Lenovo would normally put a 12.5" display in | Aug 07 01:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | also overpriced | Aug 07 01:46 |
| MinceR | yes, most laptops are bundled with microsoft | Aug 07 01:46 |
| MinceR | and it doesn't even have a CSM, but i could work around it | Aug 07 01:47 |
| MinceR | i have OpenBSD running on it | Aug 07 01:47 |
| *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@bk77nvfb9mb8u.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 07 01:48 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: "but i could work around it" โ hm? | Aug 07 01:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: after paying for microsoft :-) | Aug 07 01:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | microsoft pays openbsd | Aug 07 01:49 |
| MinceR | schestowitz-TR: does that corrupt openbsd? | Aug 07 01:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: thanks fof footing their bill (or Bill) | Aug 07 01:50 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i disabled Restricted Boot and Void Linux and OpenBSD could boot that way | Aug 07 01:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: the payment from Microsoft does | Aug 07 01:50 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Ah, so the obvious way, got it. | Aug 07 01:50 |
| MinceR | schestowitz-TR: so what do you suggest? | Aug 07 01:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | from you to Microsoft? Not sure | Aug 07 01:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe pays SJVN and colleagues to write more Zemlin fluff | Aug 07 01:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: non-Microsoft laptops | Aug 07 01:51 |
| techrights-news | "This page lists countries that regularly or admittedly apply surprising repressive laws to visiting foreigners, or egregiously violate the rights of people accused of crimes." https://stallman.org/stay-away-countries.html | Aug 07 01:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Repressive Countries To Stay Away From | Aug 07 01:51 | |
| techrights-news | #Games: Godot Engine, Valve, and Vulkan support in Crostini โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154253 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 07 01:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Godot Engine, Valve, and Vulkan support in Crostini | Tux Machines | Aug 07 01:51 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz-TR: who makes those? better question, who sells them in hungary? | Aug 07 01:52 |
| techrights-news | I donโt like to solve maths-puzzles. I do like to read other folks solutions thought. You never know where to spot a new idiom." #rakulang #programming https://gfldex.wordpress.com/2021/08/07/they-returned-an-empty-package/ | Aug 07 01:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gfldex.wordpress.com | They returned an empty package | Playing Perl 6โb6xA Raku | Aug 07 01:52 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz-TR: remember, even EeePC-s were unavailable without windows in this shithole country | Aug 07 01:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: I can imagine... | Aug 07 01:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: alternative | Aug 07 01:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | (ours) | Aug 07 01:53 |
| XRevan86 | Both new laptops that I bought were with "Linpus". One of them didn't boot :). | Aug 07 01:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | look for second-hand | Aug 07 01:53 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 07 01:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and wipe | Aug 07 01:53 |
| XRevan86 | Not that anyone would want "Linpus" to boot. | Aug 07 01:53 |
| MinceR | well, i did buy a second-hand ThinkPad X60s and replaced its HDD with an SSD | Aug 07 01:54 |
| MinceR | but the fact that it can't handle more than ~2.5 GB RAM limits its usefulness | Aug 07 01:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | SSH is a kind of HDD | Aug 07 01:54 |
| MinceR | irrelevant | Aug 07 01:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | SSD | Aug 07 01:54 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: CD is a kind of floppy disc. | Aug 07 01:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: only one machine here has more than 2gb of ram | Aug 07 01:54 |
| MinceR | also, it's not likely that i could get such a light laptop second hand | Aug 07 01:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1.7 in practice | Aug 07 01:55 |
| MinceR | and second hand doesn't really solve the issues anyway | Aug 07 01:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | where do you carry it? | Aug 07 01:55 |
| MinceR | backpack | Aug 07 01:55 |
| kingoffrance | lol disk used to be secondary storage. there all types of ram, volatile and non-volatile :) | Aug 07 01:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | I c... | Aug 07 01:55 |
| kingoffrance | *they're | Aug 07 01:55 |
| XRevan86 | I'd get "SSD is kind of flash drive" but "HDD"? In what way? Form factor? | Aug 07 01:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | I reckon those light ones are pricey to repair | Aug 07 01:55 |
| kingoffrance | maybe all types of memory better, random access has further connotations | Aug 07 01:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: magnetic disk and HDD not the same | Aug 07 01:56 |
| XRevan86 | "form factor" โ Even that's not true as NVMe SSDs get more traction. | Aug 07 01:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | HDD usually means immovable storage device, internak | Aug 07 01:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | that the bios will default to | Aug 07 01:56 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: HDD means "hard disc drive". | Aug 07 01:57 |
| kingoffrance | ram too, is non-volatile so long as you have power | Aug 07 01:57 |
| XRevan86 | because it has a disc that's hard inside. | Aug 07 01:57 |
| XRevan86 | HDD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Laptop-hard-drive-exposed.jpg | Aug 07 01:57 |
| XRevan86 | SSD: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/SSD_Samsung_960_PRO_512GB_-_front_and_back_-_2018-05-27.jpg | Aug 07 01:57 |
| MinceR | another SSD: https://i0.wp.com/www.thessdreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Samsung-860-QVO-SATA-3-SSD-14.jpg?ssl=1 | Aug 07 01:58 |
| psydruid | > Ariadne: how many devs got burned by apple when they leapt between archs already? | Aug 07 01:59 |
| psydruid | > power, intel, m1 | Aug 07 01:59 |
| psydruid | you can run the very same (non-)GNU/Linux on all of them (with the exception of some of the later Intel models) ... in the short term and while other ARM (A710/X2/Nuvia) and RISC-V (SiFive/Xiangshan) hardware is in the pipeline | Aug 07 01:59 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Nothing wrong with that picture. | Aug 07 01:59 |
| techrights-news | "The issue of contacts showing as phone numbers only has been creating havoc on iOS for a long time now." #apple cannot get the basics right! https://www.maketecheasier.com/fix-contact-names-showing-numbers-ios/ | Aug 07 01:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Fix Contact Names Not Showing, Appearing as Numbers in iOS - Make Tech Easier | Aug 07 01:59 | |
| MinceR | i think apple-using "dev"s enjoy being burned | Aug 07 02:00 |
| MinceR | or at least the cognitive dissonance makes them go on | Aug 07 02:00 |
| XRevan86 | Pretty sure Ariadne doesn't care about the struggles of macOS users. | Aug 07 02:00 |
| Ariadne | i really don't | Aug 07 02:00 |
| Ariadne | i'm just patiently waiting for the kernel gpu driver to land | Aug 07 02:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | [02:00] <MinceR> i think apple-using "dev"s enjoy being burned | Aug 07 02:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | (me on a ramble) | Aug 07 02:01 |
| Ariadne | oh, and i guess a keyboard driver is still needed | Aug 07 02:01 |
| Ariadne | since they focus on mac mini right now | Aug 07 02:01 |
| Ariadne | which does not have a keyboard | Aug 07 02:01 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 07 02:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | over the years I got burned like many others and promised myself to look ahead. meaning hardware, software and pother choices will be based not on impulse | Aug 07 02:01 |
| schestowitz | mac minis and many other "apple" things became trash very fast | Aug 07 02:02 |
| schestowitz | apple is rated one of the least "green" companies | Aug 07 02:02 |
| MinceR | yeah, they become trash before the design is completed | Aug 07 02:02 |
| schestowitz | partly based on a lack or recyclability [sic] | Aug 07 02:03 |
| MinceR | apple's "engineers" don't even know how antennas work | Aug 07 02:03 |
| schestowitz | apple is shit+marketing | Aug 07 02:03 |
| schestowitz | to me, apple is shit marketing | Aug 07 02:03 |
| schestowitz | without the plus | Aug 07 02:03 |
| schestowitz | they prey on insecurities | Aug 07 02:03 |
| schestowitz | they know their target crowd | Aug 07 02:03 |
| schestowitz | the 'grown ups' skip all that shit marketing | Aug 07 02:04 |
| schestowitz | and get shit down | Aug 07 02:04 |
| schestowitz | apple gets shit down... the loo | Aug 07 02:04 |
| schestowitz | we get shit done | Aug 07 02:04 |
| schestowitz | that's why the world runs linux/gpl | Aug 07 02:04 |
| schestowitz | not iOS | Aug 07 02:04 |
| MinceR | "the loo" -- is that what they call their customers' throats now? :> | Aug 07 02:05 |
| schestowitz | iOS is esoteric niche of the US 'boutique' | Aug 07 02:05 |
| MinceR | the world won't run linux for much longer, i suspect | Aug 07 02:05 |
| schestowitz | and some people they have managed to brainwash abroad | Aug 07 02:05 |
| schestowitz | in places like japan and western europe | Aug 07 02:05 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: no, it will not | Aug 07 02:05 |
| schestowitz | we will find or make lighter kernels | Aug 07 02:05 |
| MinceR | we'll have to | Aug 07 02:05 |
| schestowitz | techrights does not focus on linux | Aug 07 02:05 |
| MinceR | nobody understands this one | Aug 07 02:05 |
| schestowitz | it is a dying brand anyway | Aug 07 02:05 |
| schestowitz | torvalds will admit that when it's too late, and only to himself | Aug 07 02:06 |
| schestowitz | now they add water and rust to i | Aug 07 02:06 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ โ โโโโ โโ โโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 17.78 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 87.95โ swarm size (avg): 278.89 โฒ | Aug 07 02:06 |
| schestowitz | while the pusher for it, google, pushes ANOTHER kernel | Aug 07 02:06 |
| schestowitz | an they concern-troll linux | Aug 07 02:06 |
| schestowitz | over "secrity" | Aug 07 02:06 |
| schestowitz | all of a suddent!!! | Aug 07 02:06 |
| schestowitz | all of a sudden!!! | Aug 07 02:06 |
| schestowitz | [20:41] <techrights-news> #Google has the nerve to allege Linux it not secure after Google itself put #NSA -connected weakened #encryption (back door) inside #Linux https://hackaday.com/2021/08/06/this-week-in-security-insecure-chargers-request-forgeries-and-kernel-security/ | Aug 07 02:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This Week In Security: Insecure Chargers, Request Forgeries, And Kernel Security | Hackaday | Aug 07 02:07 | |
| schestowitz | android has NO FLAWS | Aug 07 02:07 |
| schestowitz | all of them are in the kernel!! | Aug 07 02:07 |
| schestowitz | gmail is also perfect | Aug 07 02:07 |
| schestowitz | with all the spying | Aug 07 02:07 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 07 02:07 |
| schestowitz | if only the kernel was in rusthub.microsoft.com | Aug 07 02:07 |
| MinceR | well, there's a flaw gkh&co were definitely trying to move into the kernel :> | Aug 07 02:08 |
| schestowitz | we need to call out those liars and frauds | Aug 07 02:08 |
| schestowitz | inc. mjg59_ | Aug 07 02:08 |
| schestowitz | total fraud | Aug 07 02:08 |
| schestowitz | disguesting person too | Aug 07 02:08 |
| schestowitz | amassing money now from proprietary sotftware company, not even pretending | Aug 07 02:08 |
| schestowitz | while talking to himself in twitter about how HE stands for free software | Aug 07 02:08 |
| schestowitz | while attacking the GPL | Aug 07 02:08 |
| schestowitz | helping Microsoft Github | Aug 07 02:08 |
| schestowitz | with copilot apologetics | Aug 07 02:08 |
| schestowitz | and forking linux in shithub | Aug 07 02:09 |
| schestowitz | attacking torvalds | Aug 07 02:09 |
| schestowitz | attacking rms | Aug 07 02:09 |
| schestowitz | total troll | Aug 07 02:09 |
| schestowitz | it's profitable | Aug 07 02:09 |
| schestowitz | history won't view these people kindly | Aug 07 02:10 |
| schestowitz | anyway, techrights talks about issues more than about brands | Aug 07 02:10 |
| MinceR | if there will be a history | Aug 07 02:10 |
| schestowitz | brands chase all the time | Aug 07 02:10 |
| schestowitz | limo, meego, maemo, tizen.. | Aug 07 02:10 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: until the nuclear war | Aug 07 02:10 |
| schestowitz | the magnetic drives will survive these better | Aug 07 02:10 |
| schestowitz | with ssd you lose data if there's no charge for a while | Aug 07 02:11 |
| schestowitz | they make machines that become unusable if not fully charged | Aug 07 02:11 |
| schestowitz | and they tell you to throw them away and buy new ones after a few years anyway | Aug 07 02:11 |
| psydruid | > could be dutch maybe | Aug 07 02:11 |
| psydruid | > or flemish | Aug 07 02:11 |
| psydruid | Danish | Aug 07 02:11 |
| schestowitz | disposables 2.0 | Aug 07 02:11 |
| schestowitz | psydruid: the Danes use accents for it | Aug 07 02:12 |
| psydruid | Jeg snakker dansk, norsk og litt svensk | Aug 07 02:12 |
| kingoffrance | oh, there will always be a history, just who writes it :) | Aug 07 02:12 |
| XRevan86 | Both times my HDDs died it was when I was away for a while. | Aug 07 02:12 |
| schestowitz | one day the microsoft propaganda sites will all perish and be offline | Aug 07 02:13 |
| psydruid | schestowitz, รฆ, รฅ and รธ are valid characters in Danish | Aug 07 02:13 |
| schestowitz | we need to outllive these | Aug 07 02:13 |
| schestowitz | almost all the novell propaganda is offline now | Aug 07 02:13 |
| psydruid | and by extension Norwegian | Aug 07 02:13 |
| schestowitz | some have noticed http://techrights.org/2019/04/14/ronald-hovsepian-vs-techrights/ | Aug 07 02:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | โPoorโ (Multi-Millionaire) Novell CEO, Who Colluded With Steve Ballmer Against GNU/Linux, is Trying to Censor Techrights | Techrights | Aug 07 02:13 | |
| schestowitz | Christel Dahlskjรฆr | Aug 07 02:14 |
| XRevan86 | Is Christel still avoiding The Topic? | Aug 07 02:15 |
| psydruid | yes, it's definitely not Dutch or German | Aug 07 02:15 |
| schestowitz | Dahl | Aug 07 02:15 |
| schestowitz | very common | Aug 07 02:15 |
| psydruid | the kjรฆr gives it away | Aug 07 02:16 |
| XRevan86 | Christel is affiliated with LTM and PIA by the way. | Aug 07 02:16 |
| schestowitz | Schestau ลฝestov | Aug 07 02:16 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: still?? | Aug 07 02:17 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Don't know about still, I just noticed that she's been involved much deeper than just freenode. | Aug 07 02:17 |
| XRevan86 | https://privateinternetaccess.com/blog/the-continually-evolving-fight-for-freedom/ like this post is by her | Aug 07 02:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | The continually evolving fight for freedom โ PIA VPN Blog | Aug 07 02:19 | |
| XRevan86 | And her email is (was?) at londontrustmedia com | Aug 07 02:19 |
| schestowitz | they have many bloggers | Aug 07 02:21 |
| schestowitz | inc. glyn moody | Aug 07 02:21 |
| schestowitz | freenode asked me to write for them | Aug 07 02:21 |
| schestowitz | i decelined | Aug 07 02:22 |
| schestowitz | "On the back of our announcement yesterday and the various media coverage relating to the upcoming merger acquisition with Kape Technologies, I wanted to take a moment to address the concern some of you have about our intent going forward, and whether this move means that we are no longer focused on privacy." | Aug 07 02:22 |
| XRevan86 | https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2019-June/msg00004.html also popped up | Aug 07 02:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mail.gnome.org | Fwd: Board of Directors Elections 2019 - Candidacy - ChristelDahlskjaer | Aug 07 02:22 | |
| schestowitz | From: Christel Dahlskjaer <christel londontrustmedia com> | Aug 07 02:22 |
| XRevan86 | "Chief Communications Officer" and both affiliations in the signature. | Aug 07 02:22 |
| schestowitz | "I am an avid privacy advocate and my day job keeps me at the intersection of tech and human rights. | Aug 07 02:22 |
| schestowitz | but this is 2 years olkd | Aug 07 02:23 |
| XRevan86 | yes | Aug 07 02:23 |
| XRevan86 | I just wasn't aware that her integration into Andrew Lee's enterprises went that far. | Aug 07 02:23 |
| schestowitz | maybe lee bought freenode by virtue of just hiring its owner | Aug 07 02:23 |
| schestowitz | not impossible | Aug 07 02:23 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: He literally said he did. | Aug 07 02:24 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 02:24 |
| XRevan86 | I guess that's what that meant. | Aug 07 02:24 |
| schestowitz | These guiding principles can be found at https://investors.kape.com/about-us and I also include an excerpt here: | Aug 07 02:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-investors.kape.com | About Us โ Kape Technologies plc | Aug 07 02:24 | |
| schestowitz | 1. Zero Secrecy โ openness as a guiding force โ we believe that an organisation cannot ensure privacy for others without being open and transparent itself. | Aug 07 02:24 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 07 02:24 |
| schestowitz | Casino companies promising transparency is a long shot | Aug 07 02:24 |
| schestowitz | "Going forward, Private Internet Access and Kape Technologies will be bound by these eight guiding principles in absolutely everything that we do.' | Aug 07 02:25 |
| schestowitz | That does not describe what happened to freenode | Aug 07 02:25 |
| schestowitz | "Zero Secrecy " | Aug 07 02:25 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Aug 07 02:25 |
| schestowitz | ". 100% Customer first " | Aug 07 02:25 |
| schestowitz | LMAO | Aug 07 02:25 |
| schestowitz | ask FSF and Slackware for details | Aug 07 02:25 |
| schestowitz | " Zero Theater " | Aug 07 02:25 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: The Christel's side of things has remained to be the big mystery here. | Aug 07 02:26 |
| schestowitz | ". 100% Honesty" | Aug 07 02:26 |
| schestowitz | we don't even get notified before freenode is about to break something | Aug 07 02:26 |
| XRevan86 | Lee's and staffers' motivations and position are more or less clear. | Aug 07 02:26 |
| schestowitz | not consulted, not notified | Aug 07 02:26 |
| schestowitz | https://netsplit.de/networks/top100.php | Aug 07 02:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE | Aug 07 02:27 | |
| schestowitz | freenode delisted | Aug 07 02:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | so sad in a sense | Aug 07 02:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | but... | Aug 07 02:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | inevitable | Aug 07 02:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | fact of life | Aug 07 02:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | nobody lasts forerever | Aug 07 02:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | people, companies... | Aug 07 02:28 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Andreas probably had it with freenode causing trouble for netsplit.de | Aug 07 02:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you are not in full control, someone else will decide end of life, based on consideration other than your own | Aug 07 02:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | deferring the exit costs and complexity is can-kicking exercise | Aug 07 02:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | like technical debt | Aug 07 02:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: I was thinking the same | Aug 07 02:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | the site was getting attention for vengeanace | Aug 07 02:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | vengeance | Aug 07 02:30 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: No, I mean, now freenode needs TLS and SASL just to show the usercount and such, depending on how the bot are written that can require a rewrite from netsplit.de | Aug 07 02:31 |
| XRevan86 | * the bots | Aug 07 02:31 |
| techrights-news | Criticise #mozilla #firefox direction, get censored http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-060821.html#tAug%2006%2008:06:48 | Aug 07 02:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, August 06, 2021 | Aug 07 02:32 | |
| techrights-news | #covid19 still circulating amid and across hallways of our regime (testing positive). Our arrogant Pry Minister refuses to self-isolate while his insane policies kill 100 per day. #uk under #tories ... sheer lunacy. | Aug 07 02:34 |
| techrights-news | "since #hackernews is so broken" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-060821.html#tAug%2006%2022:49:04 #censorship #mozilla #firefox | Aug 07 02:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, August 06, 2021 | Aug 07 02:35 | |
| *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 07 02:36 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/06/your_computer_is_on_fire_review/ | Aug 07 02:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Your Computer Is On Fire, but it will take much more than this book to put it out โข The Register | Aug 07 02:36 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, August 06, 2021 | Aug 07 02:36 | |
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| MinceR | Halt and Catch Fire | Aug 07 02:38 |
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| techrights-news | Too many BS sites presenting #vista11 like it's something that 1) already exists, final etc. 2) not just a marketing slant/media propaganda campaign to rebrand #vista10 -- a failing OS. #corruptMedia is self-flagging itself... | Aug 07 02:42 |
| techrights-news | More customers. https://www.thedailystar.net/health/disease/coronavirus/news/covid-19-vaccine-costly-dilemma-over-pregnant-women-2141611 #patents #monopolies | Aug 07 02:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thedailystar.net | Covid-19 Vaccine: A costly dilemma over pregnant women? | The Daily Star | Aug 07 02:45 | |
| DaemonFC | I ordered a pass for the toll road finally. | Aug 07 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | It was just causing too much frustration trying to avoid it. | Aug 07 02:46 |
| techrights-news | What a dumb headline https://coconuts.co/jakarta/food-drink/is-that-a-6-inch-sub-or-are-you-just-excited-by-the-rumor-that-subway-is-returning-to-indonesia/ | Aug 07 02:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-coconuts.co | Is that a 6-inch sub, or are you just excited by the rumor that Subway is returning to Indonesia? | Coconuts Jakarta | Aug 07 02:46 | |
| techrights-news | Learning bloat is NOT learning #programming https://programminginsider.com/everything-you-should-know-about-react-the-basics-you-need-to-start-building/ #facebook #javascript #bloatware | Aug 07 02:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-programminginsider.com | Everything You Should Know About React: The Basics You Need to Start Building - Programming Insider | Aug 07 02:47 | |
| techrights-news | Hey. CORY @DOCTOROW writing about #TechRights ... thanks, Cory ;-) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/08/tech-rights-are-workers-rights-doordash-edition | Aug 07 02:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Tech Rights Are Workers' Rights: Doordash Edition | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Aug 07 02:49 | |
| techrights-news | "It would create a new digital safety commissioner, who would have the authority to send inspectors into workplaces and homes to search for documents, software, and information." https://www.hilltimes.com/2021/08/06/a-slippery-slope-liberals-proposed-online-harms-bill-raises-serious-privacy-free-speech-concerns-say-experts/310513 | Aug 07 02:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hilltimes.com | โA slippery slopeโ: Liberalsโ proposed online harms bill raises serious privacy, free speech concerns, say experts - The Hill Times | Aug 07 02:52 | |
| techrights-news | #gatesfoundation 2002: let's say we use money to help children. Gates Foundation 2021: we use money to cover up for #billgates helping out a network that traffics children for sex (Epstein): http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ | Aug 07 02:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reality is Warped When You Pay for โPerception Managementโ (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights | Aug 07 02:54 | |
| techrights-news | #billgates fainted over this article (because he knew he was rightly in trouble and that's when his wife wanted a divorce, according to credible press reports) https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html | Aug 07 02:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times | Aug 07 02:56 | |
| techrights-news | #billgates used to visit #nytimes to 'supervise' their reports about himself and #microsoft (2010) http://techrights.org/2010/02/05/nyt-and-microsoft-lobbying/ | Aug 07 02:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | More Microsoft Revisionism from the New York Times, Courtesy of Former Microsoft Employee | Techrights | Aug 07 02:57 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I'm considering just taking the train on my upcoming trip. It's about 200 miles round trip and it doesn't link up precisely and it's not quite meant to be used that way. | Aug 07 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | It's basically using two different commuter systems instead of Amtrak. | Aug 07 03:00 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jrbrtson/status/1423731746986766337 | Aug 07 03:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jrbrtson: @schestowitz You know freedom of speech is under attack when they want Richard Stallman cancelled from talking at events. | Aug 07 03:00 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gnarlin2/status/1423713253729918980 | Aug 07 03:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnarlin2: @schestowitz Is this true? Are the people who fought RMS in FSF out? Will RMS regain is status as president of FSF? | Aug 07 03:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/alsmyth/status/1423587375201009669 | Aug 07 03:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@alsmyth: 'having encouraged his girlfriend to behead her parents' WTF? These types need dropping in the sea, on fire, concโฆ https://t.co/EOTnCG5k5o | Aug 07 03:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@alsmyth: 'having encouraged his girlfriend to behead her parents' WTF? These types need dropping in the sea, on fire, concโฆ https://t.co/EOTnCG5k5o | Aug 07 03:01 | |
| techrights-news | Discussion about who truly owns/owned #freenode http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-060821.html#tAug%2006%2022:57:46 #irc #internet | Aug 07 03:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, August 06, 2021 | Aug 07 03:06 | |
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| techrights-news | The fish died a day ago after 10 months. :/ http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Techrights-Birthday-14-Years/20201005_200410 | Aug 07 03:08 |
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| techrights-news | #techrights Gemini pages to exceed 37,000 some time this weekend, inc. the wiki. 63k views so far this month. | Aug 07 03:10 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | QmSWfDrRGYcLy39sAw1ufjzyZqmJSUhgxqCS1mGSB3cgvL | Aug 07 03:11 |
| techrights-news | "But in the case of Recore, the processor is a four-core ARM A53 SoC running #Debian #GNU #Linux โ an arrangement that itself could well serve as an automated test computer in other projects." https://hackaday.com/2021/08/05/vintage-test-equipment-addiction-justified/ | Aug 07 03:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vintage Test Equipment Addiction Justified | Hackaday | Aug 07 03:13 | |
| techrights-news | "Until version 2.3, #Magento Open Source (OS) users relied on the #database to manage catalog #search queries out of the box. However, the default database search offered limited functionality and wasnโt scalable." https://programminginsider.com/a-complete-magento-2-elasticsearch-configuration-tutorial/ | Aug 07 03:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-programminginsider.com | A Complete Magento 2 Elasticsearch Configuration Tutorial - Programming Insider | Aug 07 03:14 | |
| techrights-news | GNU #GIMP second from top https://www.investopedia.com/best-photo-editing-software-5194635 #gnu #freesw | Aug 07 03:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.investopedia.com | Best Photo Editing Software of 2021 | Aug 07 03:15 | |
| techrights-news | #apple pretends that proponents of #privacy and opponents of mass #surveillance / #backdoors are pedophiles or something. If you continue to buy Apple, there's something wrong with you. #boycottApple https://www.osnews.com/story/133799/apple-critics-of-continuous-iphone-photo-scanning-are-screeching-voices-of-the-minority/ | Aug 07 03:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple: critics of continuous iPhone photo scanning are โscreeching voices of the minorityโ โ OSnews | Aug 07 03:18 | |
| kingoffrance | well thats a good thing. politicians who dont want to be camerad are all pedophiles | Aug 07 03:18 |
| techrights-news | It was not #microsoft that reported a pedophile working at the home of #billgates ... #google did. http://techrights.org/2020/06/23/engineer-of-bill-gates/ | Aug 07 03:19 |
| kingoffrance | the tune always changes when politicians have to play by their own rules | Aug 07 03:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Probable Case of Child Exploitation (Sexual Abuse) Facilitated by People Other Than Rick Allen Jones, the Engineer of Bill Gates | Techrights | Aug 07 03:19 | |
| techrights-news | Bill Gatesโ Personal Engineer Rick Jones is Connected to Other Child Pornographers. One Key Contact Works (or Worked) Indirectly for Microsoft. โข ๐ป๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2020/08/03/seattle-pd-report-and-magichour/ ไท #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | โพ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/08/03/seattle-pd-report-and-magichour/ | Aug 07 03:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bill Gatesโ Personal Engineer Rick Jones is Connected to Other Child Pornographers. One Key Contact Works (or Worked) Indirectly for Microsoft. | Techrights | Aug 07 03:20 | |
| techrights-news | What a โSmoking Gunโ Would Look Like โข ๐ป๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2020/06/25/search-for-smoking-guns/ ไท #Techrights #billgates #epstein | โพ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/06/25/search-for-smoking-guns/ | Aug 07 03:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | What a โSmoking Gunโ Would Look Like | Techrights | Aug 07 03:21 | |
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| techrights-news | #billgates propaganda machine (taking bribes from Ford Founation, Rockefeller Foundation, Gates Foundation etc.) pretending to 'stick it' to the rich. Check instead the spendings of PSG? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/aug/05/the-fiver-manchester-city-harry-kane-jack-grealish-villa-spurs | Aug 07 03:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | 10% inspiration, 40% perspiration and 50% obliteration through spending | Soccer | The Guardian | Aug 07 03:26 | |
| techrights-news | In relative terms, #mancity is far from the worst (or among worst) culprits/offenders in terms of "financial doping" | Aug 07 03:27 |
| techrights-news | #theguardian is one of the very few sites banned by #techrights for taking bribes from the super-rich to indoctrinate the masses, esp. "the left" (by faking it) | Aug 07 03:28 |
| techrights-news | But will #Indonesia quit setting itself on fire for #palmoil 'efficiency'? If not, this is a drop in a #greenwashing ocean at best. Still a source of smog/pollution for its neighbours too. https://jakartaglobe.id/business/indonesia-begins-construction-of-se-asias-largest-solar-power-plant | Aug 07 03:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jakartaglobe.id | Indonesia Begins Construction of SE Asia's Largest Solar Power Plant | Aug 07 03:30 | |
| techrights-news | #Indonesia "Reports 35,764 Covid Cases and 1,739 Deaths in 24 Hours" - Media. Does that say something about the efficacy of the vaccine from #china (or put differently, how many among the dead got it and what are the median ages?) | Aug 07 03:31 |
| techrights-news | Wanna bet grifters will pocket MOST of this money while not at all helping the real victims of coronavirus? Maybe the people who approved this budget will convert it into bonuses (for themselves!) https://labusinessjournal.com/news/2021/aug/05/lendistry-1-billion-small-business-covid-relief/ | Aug 07 03:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-labusinessjournal.com | Lendistry to Administer $1.5 Billion in Covid-19 Relief | Los Angeles Business Journal | Aug 07 03:33 | |
| DaemonFC | Well, I think that pedophiles deserve whatever happens to them in court, and frankly, usually, worse than what they get in court. | Aug 07 03:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | can you get us those court docs? | Aug 07 03:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | we'd pay for the trouble/fees | Aug 07 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | But I can't condone the breach of privacy that Apple and perhaps other companies are doing with things like the iPhone. | Aug 07 03:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not about pedophiles | Aug 07 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | The police should simply have to catch them some other way. | Aug 07 03:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's about having an eye on everything | Aug 07 03:34 |
| DaemonFC | They'll start with pedophiles because nobody likes them. | Aug 07 03:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | they don't just scan the "bad" files | Aug 07 03:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | they can EVERYTHING | Aug 07 03:35 |
| DaemonFC | And then they'll do it to more and more people once the system is in place. | Aug 07 03:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | *scan | Aug 07 03:35 |
| DaemonFC | Then if you complain about it, people will attack you and accuse you of being a criminal because you don't want some company scanning your files and handing over anything the government wants. | Aug 07 03:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Aug 07 03:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | old tricks | Aug 07 03:35 |
| DaemonFC | The police have caught many of them using actual police work, like baiting them into trying to hook up with a minor and then finding a trove of CP on their phone while they were there anyway. | Aug 07 03:36 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, To be honest, there's nothing stopping Windows from doing the same thing the iPhone will. | Aug 07 03:37 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft Defender sends hash values of everything on your computer to Microsoft. | Aug 07 03:38 |
| techrights-news | Dear #corporateMedia bribed by #billgates : STOP POSTING ARTICLES ENTITLED "FAST FACTS"! You're harming the word "facts" (they do the samer to #assange all the time!). You equate that word with revisionism and lies. This helps nobody but your sponsor, Bill. (Who reportedly "fainted" over people finding out actual facts about him) | Aug 07 03:38 |
| DaemonFC | They know what you have already and they never say they won't get rid of it after a set amount of time. | Aug 07 03:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was not suggesting Windows was better | Aug 07 03:38 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Part of what makes Edge so annoying is "Potentially Unwanted Apps" "protection". | Aug 07 03:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe the media misleads by omission | Aug 07 03:39 |
| DaemonFC | Many times, it just randomly deletes things like QBittorrent updates because they're too new to have a "reputation" yet. | Aug 07 03:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | all this clown computing stuff is about taking everything away from citizens | Aug 07 03:39 |
| DaemonFC | It's aggravating. | Aug 07 03:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | "phones", laptops, servers... | Aug 07 03:39 |
| DaemonFC | I had it delete a help pack for LibreOffice even. | Aug 07 03:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | quit using Windows | Aug 07 03:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and screenshot these abuses if you use it | Aug 07 03:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | post it in your blog | Aug 07 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | It's so fucking aggravating. | Aug 07 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, the next time it does that, I'll document it. | Aug 07 03:40 |
| DaemonFC | It happens all the time, so it shouldn't take long. | Aug 07 03:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is usually disguised as "updates" or "secutity" | Aug 07 03:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | "you'd better... or else" | Aug 07 03:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | media just chose to focus on apple | Aug 07 03:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | of course google and microsoft do the same | Aug 07 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | Downloads QBittorrent and LibreOffice....Microsoft Defender: "AWOOGA! AWOOGA!!!! RED ALERT! SHIELDS TO MAXIMUM!". | Aug 07 03:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | and have done for ages | Aug 07 03:41 |
| DaemonFC | Also Microsoft Defender: "This RAT that you got with that pirate video game is fine.". | Aug 07 03:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | it does what it says | Aug 07 03:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | it defends Windows... monopoly | Aug 07 03:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | you put it at risk | Aug 07 03:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's defending microsoft from you | Aug 07 03:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait till they do more site blocking | Aug 07 03:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | clownflare and aws already make it easier, the latter at the root | Aug 07 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | I went to run the latest installer for QBittorrent and Defender said it was a trojan and even made up a name for it. | Aug 07 03:42 |
| DaemonFC | So I plopped it in VirusTotal and 47 other antivirus programs said it was clean. | Aug 07 03:43 |
| techrights-news | #ibm : we are doing fine! We're lowering labour-related expenses. https://www.freepressjournal.in/business/ibm-to-set-up-software-lab-in-kerala-cm-pinarayi-vijayan-hails-decision | Aug 07 03:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freepressjournal.in | IBM to set up software lab in Kerala; CM Pinarayi Vijayan hails decision | Aug 07 03:44 | |
| techrights-news | OpenMandriva, PCLinuxOS, and Mageia experiences http://mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com/2021/08/some-issues-and-challenges.html | Aug 07 03:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mandrivachronicles.blogspot.com | Mandriva Linux Chronicles: Some Issues and Challenges | Aug 07 03:46 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, https://i.imgur.com/8E17wqC.jpg | Aug 07 03:47 |
| techrights-news | SlashDotNet linking to #microsoft connected Arse [sic] Technica (whose Microsoft operative was arrested for anally raping children), which in turn props up Microsoft #swpats traps inside #linux ... stay classy. WTH is wrong with the media? https://linux.slashdot.org/story/21/08/06/2249244/paragon-is-working-to-get-its-nfs3-filesystem-into-the-linux-kernel | Aug 07 03:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Paragon Is Working To Get Its nfs3 Filesystem Into the Linux Kernel - Slashdot | Aug 07 03:48 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Microsoft pushed an engine update. | Aug 07 03:49 |
| DaemonFC | Now the file shows up as safe. | Aug 07 03:49 |
| techrights-news | #microsoft #windows Defender now defends Microsoft #monopoly by removing people's applications for torrents, #libreoffice etc. And they want this ported over and installed on GNU/Linux. What could possibly go wrong??? https://i.imgur.com/8E17wqC.jpg | Aug 07 03:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks | Aug 07 03:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | wise to always screenshot to document things | Aug 07 03:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | as others experience the same issues | Aug 07 03:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | but likely would never report or produce proof | Aug 07 03:52 |
| techrights-news | Seeing that #corporateMedia is ATM helping #billgates with his lies and revisionism, I shall post some older links of relevance. About a dozen hand picked. | Aug 07 03:53 |
| techrights-news | According to the Wall Street Journal, Bill Gatesโs Relationship with Jeffrey Epstein Caused the Bill-Melinda Divorce (While the Media Deflected to Dr. Stallman, Using a Phony โScandalโ) โข ๐ป๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2021/05/10/melinda-sickened-by-bill/ ไท #Techrights #billgates #epstein #sex | โพ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/10/melinda-sickened-by-bill/ | Aug 07 03:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | According to the Wall Street Journal, Bill Gatesโs Relationship with Jeffrey Epstein Caused the Bill-Melinda Divorce (While the Media Deflected to Dr. Stallman, Using a Phony โScandalโ) | Techrights | Aug 07 03:54 | |
| techrights-news | The Latest Reports About Bill Gates Serve to Confirm or at Least Reaffirm Many Peopleโs Suspicions โข ๐ป๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2021/05/07/reports-about-bill-gates/ ไท #Techrights #billgates #epstein #sex | โพ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/07/reports-about-bill-gates/ | Aug 07 03:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Latest Reports About Bill Gates Serve to Confirm or at Least Reaffirm Many Peopleโs Suspicions | Techrights | Aug 07 03:55 | |
| techrights-news | Latest Tim Schwab Investigative Report on Bill Gates Explores His Latest Vaccine Profiteering Drive โข ๐ป๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2020/10/06/bill-gates-profiteering/ ไท #Techrights #billgates #epstein #sex | Aug 07 03:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Latest Tim Schwab Investigative Report on Bill Gates Explores His Latest Vaccine Profiteering Drive | Techrights | Aug 07 03:55 | |
| techrights-news | Speaking Through Spokespeople is a Sign of Weakness, Such as Non-Denying and False Denials (or: Bill Gates Never Denied His Connections to MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein) โข ๐ป๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/ ไท #Techrights #billgates #epstein #sex | โพ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/ | Aug 07 03:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Speaking Through Spokespeople is a Sign of Weakness, Such as Non-Denying and False Denials (or: Bill Gates Never Denied His Connections to MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein) | Techrights | Aug 07 03:56 | |
| techrights-news | Published One Year Ago Today: The Real MIT Scandal (Before Attention Was Shifted Entirely to Richard Stallman) โข ๐ป๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/the-real-mit-scandal/ ไท #Techrights #billgates #epstein #sex | Aug 07 03:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Published One Year Ago Today: The Real MIT Scandal (Before Attention Was Shifted Entirely to Richard Stallman) | Techrights | Aug 07 03:57 | |
| techrights-news | Inside the Free Software Foundation (FSF) - Part VIII: Bill Gates Quietly Leaves Microsoft and Media Focuses Again on His Abuses (Instead of Richard Stallman) โข ๐ป๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2020/03/18/rms-and-unseen-article-pd/ ไท #Techrights #gnu #billgates #epstein #sex | โพ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/03/18/rms-and-unseen-article-pd/ | Aug 07 03:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Inside the Free Software Foundation (FSF) โ Part VIII: Bill Gates Quietly Leaves Microsoft and Media Focuses Again on His Abuses (Instead of Richard Stallman) | Techrights | Aug 07 03:57 | |
| techrights-news | Mansion of Pedophilia - Part II: Dr. Stallman Defamed in the Media One Day After Request Made for King County Sheriffโs Office to Divulge Information About Pedophilia in Home of Bill Gates โข ๐ป๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/police-report-bill-gates/ ไท #Techrights#gnu #billgates #epstein #sex | โพ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2019/12/21/police-report-bill-gates/ | Aug 07 03:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mansion of Pedophilia โ Part II: Dr. Stallman Defamed in the Media One Day After Request Made for King County Sheriffโs Office to Divulge Information About Pedophilia in Home of Bill Gates | Techrights | Aug 07 03:58 | |
| techrights-news | Mansion of Pedophilia โ Part IX: Arrest for Pedophilia Made, Conviction (Guilty Plea) Affirmed, and Search Conducted While the Pedophile Was at the Home of #BillGates โข ๐ป๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2020/02/02/pedophilia-location-identified/ ไท #Techrights | โพ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/02/02/pedophilia-location-identified/ | Aug 07 03:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mansion of Pedophilia โ Part IX: Arrest for Pedophilia Made, Conviction (Guilty Plea) Affirmed, and Search Conducted While the Pedophile Was at the Home of Bill Gates | Techrights | Aug 07 03:59 | |
| techrights-news | The mainstream media has already proven โ using hard facts and concrete, undeniable evidence โ the countless visits/meetings, the flights and the long-denied #billgates #epstein link http://techrights.org/2020/06/25/search-for-smoking-guns/ | Aug 07 04:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | What a โSmoking Gunโ Would Look Like | Techrights | Aug 07 04:00 | |
| techrights-news | Vandana Shiva: โ #BillGates is Continuing the Work of Monsantoโ โข ๐ป๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2020/01/23/vandana-shiva-bill-gates/ ไท #Techrights #GMO #patent #monopoly | โพ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/01/23/vandana-shiva-bill-gates/ | Aug 07 04:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Vandana Shiva: โBill Gates is Continuing the Work of Monsantoโ | Techrights | Aug 07 04:01 | |
| *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 07 04:01 | |
| techrights-news | If you still think #billgates is a nice person (and he is NOT paying you to think so), you have lots of catching up to do... http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique | Aug 07 04:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights | Aug 07 04:01 | |
| techrights-news | #twitter should not have accepted this money. Would it have also done "promoted tweets" from Jeff Epstein? http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ | Aug 07 04:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reality is Warped When You Pay for โPerception Managementโ (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights | Aug 07 04:03 | |
| techrights-news | "I continue to be the Chief GNUisance of the #GNU Project. This is my long-term commitment and I plan to continue. Support me against a campaign of hatred" https://stallman.org/ | Aug 07 04:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Richard Stallman's Personal Page | Aug 07 04:03 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, August 06, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Aug 07 04:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Aug 07 04:05 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Aug 07 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Aug 07 04:06 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ โโโ โโโ โโโโโโโโโโโ โโโ โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 18.05 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 94.08โ swarm size (avg): 278.78 โฒ | Aug 07 04:06 |
| techrights-news | Why #vista11 PR onslaught (bribed media with #vapourware placements 24/7 for 2-3 weeks)? Windows market share slipping below 30% and all sorts of #microsoft and #gatesfoundation scandals/blunders to distract from. https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202108 | Aug 07 04:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Worldwide | StatCounter Global Stats | Aug 07 04:07 | |
| techrights-news | If you are angry that #apple puts back doors in its operating systems for the government, then just remember that #google and #microsoft do exactly the same. They don't give a damn about you. State and army first... you're just a subject to them. Stop paying them. | Aug 07 04:09 |
| techrights-news | Jimmy | Aug 07 04:11 |
| psydruid | https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide#monthly-200901-202108 | Aug 07 04:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Desktop Operating System Market Share Worldwide | StatCounter Global Stats | Aug 07 04:12 | |
| techrights-news | #billbc has become little but a for-profit #propaganda front which learned NOTHING since its #coverup for Jimmy Savile. It'll happen again and again until it won't recover and won't be seen as worth saving anymore. Don't pay #tvlicence either (giving away the TV set/s makes this perfectly legal). https://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/jimmy-savile-report-stuart-hall-bbc-employees-who-knew-about-sexual-predators-a6896246.ht | Aug 07 04:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/tv-radio/jimmy-savile-report-stuart-hall-bbc-employees-who-knew-about-sexual-predators-a6896246.ht ) | Aug 07 04:12 | |
| psydruid | 8% "unknown" | Aug 07 04:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | unknown version of windows? ;-0) | Aug 07 04:12 |
| psydruid | I doubt it, but you always have those people who keep clinging to it | Aug 07 04:13 |
| schestowitz | those stats have lots of caveats | Aug 07 04:14 |
| psydruid | and it still doesn't matter, because windows's share of the overall market is still declining | Aug 07 04:14 |
| schestowitz | however, they do remind people that mobile devices are used more and more over time | Aug 07 04:14 |
| schestowitz | for better or wose | Aug 07 04:14 |
| schestowitz | mostly worse | Aug 07 04:14 |
| schestowitz | psydruid: what would wsl count as? | Aug 07 04:15 |
| schestowitz | surely windows | Aug 07 04:15 |
| schestowitz | because that's what it is | Aug 07 04:15 |
| schestowitz | anyway, nobody uses it | Aug 07 04:15 |
| schestowitz | it's a niche product | Aug 07 04:15 |
| schestowitz | some failed project | Aug 07 04:15 |
| schestowitz | barely even mentioned anymore | Aug 07 04:15 |
| schestowitz | they cannot compel people to try this crap | Aug 07 04:15 |
| schestowitz | like Shells.com | Aug 07 04:15 |
| schestowitz | they rely more on sabotage | Aug 07 04:16 |
| schestowitz | like making harder the installation of gnu/linux | Aug 07 04:16 |
| schestowitz | or even just booting a live CD | Aug 07 04:16 |
| psydruid | I am not totally against mobile devices, but I think we have lived through the first wave of android and iOS devices with more open devices running free software operating systems taking their place | Aug 07 04:16 |
| psydruid | yes | Aug 07 04:16 |
| schestowitz | with corporate operatives like mjg59_ doing the vandalism | Aug 07 04:16 |
| psydruid | even making gnu/linux harder to install isn't going to work | Aug 07 04:17 |
| schestowitz | psydruid: the mobility part might be ok if you can truly turn off the network | Aug 07 04:17 |
| psydruid | I'll just buy more non-x86 hardware | Aug 07 04:17 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Aug 07 04:17 |
| schestowitz | so now tpm | Aug 07 04:17 |
| schestowitz | no reason to get vista 11 | Aug 07 04:17 |
| schestowitz | except to add more restrictions | Aug 07 04:17 |
| schestowitz | i need to get a nap soon | Aug 07 04:18 |
| psydruid | and I've been getting some experience porting x86 assembly code to ARM, RISC and DeadPOWER | Aug 07 04:18 |
| schestowitz | we make pies at 5:30 | Aug 07 04:18 |
| psydruid | oh, I already slept | Aug 07 04:18 |
| schestowitz | I only wrote one article yesterday :(( | Aug 07 04:18 |
| schestowitz | tbh, I lack topics | Aug 07 04:18 |
| psydruid | after getting my second jab yesterday | Aug 07 04:18 |
| schestowitz | so am open to suggestions | Aug 07 04:18 |
| schestowitz | psydruid: good | Aug 07 04:19 |
| psydruid | as terrible as the first one | Aug 07 04:19 |
| schestowitz | we are home workers, so we are more choosy for the time being | Aug 07 04:19 |
| schestowitz | today we have city back in play | Aug 07 04:19 |
| psydruid | I was too, but my mom insisted on me getting them | Aug 07 04:19 |
| psydruid | charity shield | Aug 07 04:20 |
| schestowitz | maybe jack g will play some minutes too, then lift a first trophy | Aug 07 04:20 |
| psydruid | I know | Aug 07 04:20 |
| schestowitz | community shield | Aug 07 04:20 |
| schestowitz | a charity, yes | Aug 07 04:20 |
| psydruid | oh right | Aug 07 04:20 |
| psydruid | I should probably try to go back to sleep too | Aug 07 04:21 |
| techrights-news | Over 10k #covid19 deaths tallied yesterday. Peaked around winter time at 17k. This coming winter will be worse... | Aug 07 04:21 |
| techrights-news | Since the #borisnaro experiment started #uk has been worst at #covid19 combat... in the whole of #europe ... and he was forewarned by experts http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/07/20/mass-infection/ | Aug 07 04:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com ยป Blog Archive ยป Mass infection is not an option: we must do more to protect our young | Aug 07 04:23 | |
| techrights-news | Today #borisnaro will stuff #wembley again for a #communityshield variant. Watch and spread a virus for "charity" http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/06/30/wembley-losing-control-of-covid/ | Aug 07 04:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com ยป Blog Archive ยป Britain Lost in Wembley | Aug 07 04:24 | |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: oops, posted some tweets into the wrong channel | Aug 07 04:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'tweets' | Aug 07 04:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | posts, copied automatically to twitter | Aug 07 04:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | I try to keep it off here | Aug 07 04:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, some people still have the luxury of perpetual isolation until they make robust soluitions | Aug 07 04:30 |
| techrights-news | #ibm steps in, #redhat #fedora drops 32-bit Linux. IBM doesn't care about #gnu #linux communities and old hardware that it is unable to 'monetise'. Remember that. This is why they attack GPL/FSF/RMS/Free software. Concern-trolling is just a strategy, e.g. aided by their front groups for overlapping interests http://techrights.org/2021/05/07/trolling-the-real-community/ | Aug 07 04:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Biggest Troll is the Linux Foundation, Still Looking to Provoke and Defame Free Software Communities in Order to Help a Monopolistic Takeover and to Shoehorn Tyrants Into Leadership Positions | Techrights | Aug 07 04:38 | |
| techrights-news | #apple is just rebranding things. The delirious cult members faint in their faithful excitement. INNOVATION! OMG! https://medium.com/tonys-tech-corner/apple-shortcuts-love-it-or-hate-it-252c0c811c66 | Aug 07 04:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple Shortcuts: Love It or Hate It? | by Anthony Lawrence | Tonyโs Tech Corner | Aug, 2021 | Medium | Aug 07 04:39 | |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโโโโโโโโโโโโ โโ โ โโ โโ โ โ โโโ โโโโ โโโโโ avg(k/sec) 34.60 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 91.33โ swarm size (avg): 278.72 โฒ | Aug 07 05:07 |
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| techrights-news | #Gallium Nine Lands Threaded Context Support, Other Improvements - Phoronix โ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Gallium-Nine-TC-Lands ไท #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux #Graphics | Aug 07 05:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gallium Nine Lands Threaded Context Support, Other Improvements - Phoronix | Aug 07 05:42 | |
| techrights-news | #reddit is #censorship so never ever research what's there like it's a reflection of reality. We know which companies censor and AstroTurf there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwMq3P8gDB4 #microsoft also got caught: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/AstroTurfing | Aug 07 05:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ใResearchใGIVE ME THE TECH NEWS!!! - YouTube | Aug 07 05:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | AstroTurfing - Techrights | Aug 07 05:45 | |
| techrights-news | Arduino powered 5-key keypad includes a rotary encoder - CNX Software โ https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/08/07/arduino-powered-5-key-keypad-rotary-encoder/ ไท #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/07/#latest | Aug 07 05:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Arduino powered 5-key keypad includes a rotary encoder - CNX Software | Aug 07 05:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Aug 07 05:52 | |
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| techrights-news | This Chart Explains or Helps Explain Why #Microsoft Invoked Version Inflation (+1) for Vista 10 and Then Bombarded the Media With Paid-for Churnalism โข ๐ป๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2021/08/07/windows-monopoly-waning/ ไท #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | โพ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/07/windows-monopoly-waning/ | Aug 07 06:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | This Chart Explains or Helps Explain Why Microsoft Invoked Version Inflation (+1) for Vista 10 and Then Bombarded the Media With Paid-for Churnalism | Techrights | Aug 07 06:01 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโ โโ โ โ โ โโโโโโ โโ โโโโโโโ โโโโโโ โ โโโ โ avg(k/sec) 46.01 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 83.90โ swarm size (avg): 278.65 โฒ | Aug 07 06:06 |
| techrights-news | [Meme] Today in โTech Rightsโ โข ๐ป๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2021/08/07/tech-rights/ ไท #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | โพ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/07/tech-rights/ | Aug 07 06:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Today in โTech Rightsโ | Techrights | Aug 07 06:16 | |
| psydruid | "because where were many"<- "where" should be "there" | Aug 07 06:54 |
| psydruid | "along the lines of of" <- omit one occurrence of "of" | Aug 07 06:55 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโ โ โโโโโโโโโโโโโโ โโ โโโโ โโโโโโโโ โ โโ avg(k/sec) 18.58 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 71.43โ swarm size (avg): 278.58 โฒ | Aug 07 07:06 |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโ โโโโ โโโโโโโ โโ โ โ โโโโโโโโโโโ โโโ โโ avg(k/sec) 18.35 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 55.01โ swarm size (avg): 278.51 โฒ | Aug 07 08:06 |
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| techrights-news | ๐๐ข๐ ๐ฅ๐ฏ๐ฆ๐ค๐ฅ๐ฑ๐ฐ #IRC Proceedings: Friday, August 06, 2021 โข ๐ป๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2021/08/07/irc-log-060821/ ไท #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | โพ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/07/irc-log-060821/ | Aug 07 08:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Friday, August 06, 2021 | Techrights | Aug 07 08:58 | |
| techrights-news | This week in KDE: Stability โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154255 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 07 08:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: Stability | Tux Machines | Aug 07 08:58 | |
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| techrights-news | Top 14 Podcast Tools โ best free podcast software โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154256 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 07 09:02 |
| techrights-news | #Google #Android Leftovers โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154257 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 07 09:02 |
| techrights-news | #Google #Android Leftovers โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154257 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 07 09:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 14 Podcast Tools โ best free podcast software | Tux Machines | Aug 07 09:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Aug 07 09:03 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #DataSwamp #BSD โ Register multiples wifi networks on #OpenBSD https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2021-08-05-openbsd-wifi-list.html | Aug 07 09:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dataswamp.org | Solene'% : Register multiples wifi networks on OpenBSD | Aug 07 09:05 | |
| schestowitz-TR | psydroid_: thanks | Aug 07 09:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was tired | Aug 07 09:06 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโโ โ โโโโโโโโโ โ โโ โโโโ โโโโ โโ โโโ โโโ avg(k/sec) 28.01 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 81.45โ swarm size (avg): 278.44 โฒ | Aug 07 09:06 |
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| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #OilShell #Shell โ Unix Shell: History and Trivia https://www.oilshell.org/blog/2021/08/history-trivia.html | Aug 07 09:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.oilshell.org | Unix Shell: History and Trivia | Aug 07 09:07 | |
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| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #PortSwigger #Standards โ HTTP/2: The Sequel is Always Worse https://portswigger.net/research/http2 | Aug 07 09:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-portswigger.net | HTTP/2: The Sequel is Always Worse | PortSwigger Research | Aug 07 09:07 | |
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| techrights-news | #LatteDock v0.10.0 | Official Stable Release โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154254 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 07 09:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latte Dock v0.10.0 | Official Stable Release | Tux Machines | Aug 07 09:09 | |
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| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #Joinup #de #germany โ German health professionals will communicate with each other through the #freesw Matrix protocol https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/german-health-system-adopts-matrix | Aug 07 09:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joinup.ec.europa.eu | German health system adopts Matrix | Joinup | Aug 07 09:10 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #Joonas #Security โ SAML is insecure by design https://joonas.fi/2021/08/saml-is-insecure-by-design/ | Aug 07 09:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SAML is insecure by design | joonas.fi | Aug 07 09:12 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #Bloomberg #Privacy #Surveillance โ #Twitter Judge Rejects Early Escape From Youth Exploitation Suit https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-06/twitter-judge-rejects-early-escape-from-youth-exploitation-suit | Aug 07 09:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Aug 07 09:14 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #Gizmodo #Privacy #Surveillance โ Zoom's $85 Million Settlement Won't Change a Thing, but It Could Get You a Refund https://gizmodo.com/zooms-85-million-settlement-wont-change-a-thing-but-i-1847406830 | Aug 07 09:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Here's What Zoom's $85 Million Settlement Actually Means | Aug 07 09:14 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #IndiaToday #Privacy #Surveillance โ Zoom to pay $85 million in settlements for false #encryption claims, sharing user data with #Facebook and Google https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/news/story/zoom-to-pay-85-million-in-settlements-for-false-encryption-claims-sharing-user-data-with-facebook-and-google-1836586-2021-08-04 | Aug 07 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.indiatoday.in | Zoom to pay $85 million in settlements for false encryption claims, sharing user data with Facebook and Google - Technology News | Aug 07 09:15 | |
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| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #CBS #Privacy #Surveillance โ #Zoom Agrees To $85 Million Settlement Over Failure to Protect Usersโ Privacy https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2021/08/03/zoom-agrees-to-85-million-settlement-over-failure-to-protect-users-privacy/ | Aug 07 09:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com | Zoom Agrees To $85 Million Settlement Over Failure to Protect Usersโ Privacy โ CBS San Francisco | Aug 07 09:17 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #MacObserver #Privacy #Surveillance โ #Zoom to Pay $85 Million Over #Encryption , Sending User Data https://www.macobserver.com/news/zoom-pay-85-million/ | Aug 07 09:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macobserver.com | Zoom to Pay $85 Million Over Encryption, Sending User Data - The Mac Observer | Aug 07 09:18 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #India #Privacy #Surveillance โ #Zoom Raked In Revenue While It Lied About #Encryption And Sent Your Data To #Facebook https://www.news18.com/news/tech/zoom-raked-in-revenue-while-it-lied-about-encryption-and-sent-your-data-to-facebook-4047815.html | Aug 07 09:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.news18.com | Zoom Lied About Encryption And Sent Your Data To Facebook While Revenue Soared | Aug 07 09:18 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #NPR #Misinformation #Disinformation โ #NYU Researchers Were Studying Disinformation On #Facebook . The Company Cut Them Off https://text.npr.org/1024791053 | Aug 07 09:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | NYU Researchers Were Studying Disinformation On Facebook. The Company Cut Them Off | Aug 07 09:34 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #TheVerge #Misinformation #Disinformation โ Thereโs a better way for #Facebook to resolve its fight with #NYU researchers https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/6/22613525/facebook-nyu-research-ban-cambridge-analytica-platformer | Aug 07 09:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Thereโs a better way for Facebook to resolve its fight with NYU researchers - The Verge | Aug 07 09:34 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #TheVerge #Misinformation #Disinformation โ #Facebook โs justification for banning third-party researchers โinaccurate,โ says FTC https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/6/22612545/facebook-banned-third-party-researchers-inaccurate-says-ftc | Aug 07 09:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Facebookโs justification for banning third-party researchers โinaccurate,โ says FTC - The Verge | Aug 07 09:35 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #TheWashingtonPost #Misinformation #Disinformation โ #FTC rejects Facebookโs justification for cutting off researchers as โinaccurateโ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/08/05/facebook-nyu-ftc-dispute/ | Aug 07 09:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | FTC rejects Facebookโs justification for cutting off NYU researchers as โinaccurateโ - The Washington Post | Aug 07 09:36 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #TheHill #Misinformation #Disinformation โ #FTC hits #Facebook over 'inaccurate' explanation for banning researchers https://thehill.com/policy/technology/566781-ftc-hits-facebook-over-inaccurate-explanation-for-banning-researchers | Aug 07 09:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FTC hits Facebook over 'inaccurate' explanation for banning researchers | TheHill | Aug 07 09:36 | |
| techrights-news | This is borderline trolling, I think, for more reasons than I can list in a short reply. But someone has decided to 'bite'... https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006987.html | Aug 07 09:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini Digest, Vol 25, Issue 4 | Aug 07 09:40 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #BankokPost #Censorship โ #Internet freedom declines further in #Thailand https://www.bangkokpost.com/tech/2161563/internet-freedom-declines-further-in-thailand | Aug 07 09:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bangkokpost.com | Internet freedom declines further in Thailand | Aug 07 09:40 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #PublishersWeekly #Censorship โ Censorship on the Rise Worldwide https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/publisher-news/article/87097-censorship-on-the-rise-worldwide.html | Aug 07 09:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.publishersweekly.com | Censorship on the Rise Worldwide | Aug 07 09:40 | |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ โ โโโ โโ โโโโโโโโโโ โ โโ โ avg(k/sec) 19.50 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 56.01โ swarm size (avg): 278.37 โฒ | Aug 07 11:06 |
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| techrights-news | #EFF uses meaningful terminology which ought to be widely adopted http://techrights.org/2021/08/07/tech-rights/ | Aug 07 11:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Today in โTech Rightsโ | Techrights | Aug 07 11:27 | |
| techrights-news | Across all form factors, #Windows may already have less than 30% of the overall share, but even on desktops/laptops in isolation Microsoft has quite a crisis and no signs of turnaround/recovery โข ๐ป๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2021/08/07/windows-monopoly-waning/ ไท #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | โพ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/07/windows-monopoly-waning/ | Aug 07 11:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | This Chart Explains or Helps Explain Why Microsoft Invoked Version Inflation (+1) for Vista 10 and Then Bombarded the Media With Paid-for Churnalism | Techrights | Aug 07 11:28 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #TheVerge #Internet โ The #FCC finally made a new #broadband map of the US https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/6/22613096/fcc-cellular-broadband-voice-availability-map-data | Aug 07 11:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | The FCC finally made a new broadband map of the US - The Verge | Aug 07 11:28 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #BroadbandBreakfast #Monopolies โ Daniel Hanley: Federal Communications Commission Must Block Verizonโs Acquisition of TracFone https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2021/08/daniel-hanley-federal-communications-commission-must-block-verizons-acquisition-of-tracfone/ | Aug 07 11:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-broadbandbreakfast.com | Daniel Hanley: Federal Communications Commission Must Block Verizonโs Acquisition of TracFone : Broadband Breakfast | Aug 07 11:29 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux โ Code your own #pinball game | Wireframe #53 https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/code-your-own-pinball-game-wireframe-53/ | Aug 07 11:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Code your own pinball game | Wireframe #53 - Raspberry Pi | Aug 07 11:29 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #DontExtraditeAssange #wikileaks #uk โ Preliminary #Assange Appeal Hearing Scheduled for August 11 https://dontextraditeassange.com/hearing-coverage/preliminary-assange-appeal-hearing-scheduled-for-august-11/ | Aug 07 11:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dontextraditeassange.com | Preliminary Assange Appeal Hearing Scheduled for August 11 - Don't Extradite Assange | Aug 07 11:31 | |
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| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #meduza #ru #russia #Censorship โ #Roskomnadzor unblocks โGeniusโ website after it removes banned songs https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/08/06/roskomnadzor-unblocks-genius-website-after-it-removes-banned-songs | Aug 07 12:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Aug 07 12:12 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #Techdirt โ CCO Of #Activision #Blizzard Busy Blocking Everyone, Including Employees, On #Twitter Amid Fair Employment Lawsuit https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210803/09580847299/cco-activision-blizzard-busy-blocking-everyone-including-employees-twitter-amid-fair-employment-lawsuit.shtml | Aug 07 12:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CCO Of Activision Blizzard Busy Blocking Everyone, Including Employees, On Twitter Amid Fair Employment Lawsuit | Techdirt | Aug 07 12:15 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #Techdirt #Monopolies โ You Can't Be Tough On Big Tech While Killing Off Alternatives To It https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210805/16245947312/you-cant-be-tough-big-tech-while-killing-off-alternatives-to-it.shtml | Aug 07 12:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-You Can't Be Tough On Big Tech While Killing Off Alternatives To It | Techdirt | Aug 07 12:20 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #Tor #torproject โ New Release: #TorBrowser 11.0a3 (Android Only) https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-110a3 | Aug 07 12:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | New Release: Tor Browser 11.0a3 (Android Only) | Tor Blog | Aug 07 12:21 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #CourageFound โ Official Secrets Acts Must Not Follow U.S. #EspionageAct https://couragefound.org/2021/08/official-secrets-acts-must-not-follow-u-s-espionage-act/ | Aug 07 12:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-couragefound.org | Official Secrets Acts Must Not Follow U.S. Espionage Act | Courage Foundation | Aug 07 12:21 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #EFF #Copyright #Copyrights โ Why Companies Keep Folding to Copyright Pressure, Even If They Shouldnโt https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/08/why-companies-keep-folding-copyright-pressure-even-if-they-shouldnt | Aug 07 12:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Why Companies Keep Folding to Copyright Pressure, Even If They Shouldnโt | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Aug 07 12:22 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #Techdirt โ #Apple Undermines Its Famous [sic] #Security [sic] 'For The Children' https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210806/10134447314/apple-undermines-famous-security-children.shtml | Aug 07 12:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple Undermines Its Famous Security 'For The Children' | Techdirt | Aug 07 12:26 | |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #EFF #swpats โ This Captcha #Patent Is An All-American Nightmare https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/08/captcha-patent-all-american-nightmare | Aug 07 12:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | This Captcha Patent Is An All-American Nightmare | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Aug 07 12:27 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ โโโโโ โ โโโโโโ โโ โโ โ โโโโโ โโโ โโ โ โ โโโโ avg(k/sec) 18.06 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโ โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 79.45โ swarm size (avg): 278.29 โฒ | Aug 07 13:06 |
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| MinceR | (audio) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/763027.mp4 | Aug 07 13:17 |
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| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #Techdirt #turkey โ Appeals Court Says No Sovereign #Immunity For Turkish Security Forces Who Attacked DC Protesters https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210731/23590247280/appeals-court-says-no-sovereign-immunity-turkish-security-forces-who-attacked-dc-protesters.shtml | Aug 07 13:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Appeals Court Says No Sovereign Immunity For Turkish Security Forces Who Attacked DC Protesters | Techdirt | Aug 07 13:25 | |
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| techrights-news | Considering current pace, maybe a quarter million page requests this month over gemini:// ... just in #techrights alone (about 500 unique people a week). It's growing! | Aug 07 14:15 |
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| techrights-news | Forking is Easy, But the Hard Part is Finding a Strong Rationale for It (Essential for Momentum) โข ๐ป๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2021/08/07/forking-needs-reason/ ไท #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | โพ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/07/forking-needs-reason/ | Aug 07 14:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Forking is Easy, But the Hard Part is Finding a Strong Rationale for It (Essential for Momentum) | Techrights | Aug 07 14:58 | |
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| techrights-news | When Tech Rights Go โMainstreamโ โข ๐ป๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2021/08/07/tech-rights-eff-and-fsf/ ไท #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | โพ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/07/tech-rights-eff-and-fsf/ | Aug 07 15:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Tech Rights Go โMainstreamโ | Techrights | Aug 07 15:07 | |
| MinceR | http://pandyland.net/108 | Aug 07 15:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pandyland.net | Pandyland | Aug 07 15:08 | |
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| leah | schestowitz-TR: in this channel, we discussed the following number of users on freenode last week | Aug 07 15:11 |
| leah | i observed that freenode was something like 13000 users, and libera was about 46000 | Aug 07 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Aug 07 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | soon under 10k | Aug 07 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe already below that | Aug 07 15:12 |
| leah | according to today's stats, freenode is 10600 users, and libera is still at average 45-48k users average | Aug 07 15:12 |
| leah | i checked just now, while bored | Aug 07 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | freenode was like 85-90k | Aug 07 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | so we lost overall, as irc:// | Aug 07 15:12 |
| leah | yes | Aug 07 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | some of those users are in BOTH LC and freenode | Aug 07 15:12 |
| leah | indeed | Aug 07 15:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | so removing duplicate means maybe 50k | Aug 07 15:13 |
| leah | i still have 2 channels there, which i lurk in, but those channels are dead | Aug 07 15:13 |
| leah | i moved them officially to libera, while holding the fn channels just to drain them | Aug 07 15:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Aug 07 15:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, did you see freenode.net? | Aug 07 15:14 |
| leah | a lot of the people there probably don't actually use it | Aug 07 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | since like 10 hours ago? | Aug 07 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | screenshot in http://techrights.org/2021/08/07/forking-needs-reason/ | Aug 07 15:14 |
| leah | no, but i'm now looking at it | Aug 07 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | tl;dr freenode.net promotes "vaccines change your dna" | Aug 07 15:14 |
| leah | https://freenode.net/news/trojan-horse | Aug 07 15:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | On Apple, Trojan Horses and Truth - freenode | Aug 07 15:14 | |
| leah | that article right? | Aug 07 15:15 |
| leah | released today | Aug 07 15:15 |
| MinceR | yup | Aug 07 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, jump to the bit about vaccines | Aug 07 15:15 |
| leah | i will read the entire article, and then yours | Aug 07 15:15 |
| leah | um | Aug 07 15:15 |
| leah | lol wtf | Aug 07 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | welcome to freenode | Aug 07 15:15 |
| leah | that's a huge coincidence schestowitz-TR | Aug 07 15:15 |
| leah | no i mean | Aug 07 15:16 |
| leah | look at my blog entry from today: https://vimuser.org/devil.html | Aug 07 15:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vimuser.org | Leahย Rowe'sย Sleeplessย Rants โ Sketch: An alien lands on earth | Aug 07 15:16 | |
| leah | and that freenode article begins with: | Aug 07 15:16 |
| leah | "In the story of the Garden of Eden, it is said that the forbidden fruit was encouraged to be eaten by the Devil. The story goes that eating the fruit was the direct action that resulted in man to be expelled from the garden." | Aug 07 15:16 |
| leah | ... | Aug 07 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | nice skwetch | Aug 07 15:16 |
| leah | and i didn't know about that freenode article until just now | Aug 07 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am a sketcher too | Aug 07 15:16 |
| leah | yeah but, it's a huge coincidence don't you think? | Aug 07 15:16 |
| leah | look at the sketch more closely :P | Aug 07 15:16 |
| leah | i'll continue reading the freenode article now | Aug 07 15:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a reference to poisoned apple | Aug 07 15:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | even gave adam a GMOd apple | Aug 07 15:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | and with pesticides angers god | Aug 07 15:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | god files a patent lawsuit | Aug 07 15:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | the end | Aug 07 15:18 |
| leah | ok | Aug 07 15:18 |
| leah | i finished reading the fn article | Aug 07 15:21 |
| leah | i fail to see how the topics it discusses have anything to do with the operation of the freenode network | Aug 07 15:21 |
| leah | is freenode.net a personal blog now? | Aug 07 15:21 |
| CrystalMath | leah: yeah there's weirdness in there but if your takeaway is that apple is bad, then it's not a bad article | Aug 07 15:21 |
| leah | that's how it reads | Aug 07 15:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | [15:21] <leah> is freenode.net a personal blog now? <<< that's what I said last night | Aug 07 15:22 |
| CrystalMath | freenode is marketing itself as a free speech resistance network | Aug 07 15:22 |
| CrystalMath | i don't see it as a personal blog thing | Aug 07 15:22 |
| leah | but it isn't even a well written article | Aug 07 15:22 |
| MinceR | it's easy to get a different takeaway from that | Aug 07 15:22 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: such as? (i want to hear you say it because it will probably be funny :P) | Aug 07 15:22 |
| gustaf | CrystalMath: "all the crazy borderline anti-vaxx people say Apple is bad" is not the ringing endorsement you imagine it is | Aug 07 15:22 |
| leah | though i find it fun that the article talks about adam and eve, and i, today, uploaded a sketch i did of the devil :P | Aug 07 15:22 |
| MinceR | for example: (a) vaccines are good and apple is good | Aug 07 15:23 |
| leah | > "2 life forms detected" | Aug 07 15:23 |
| MinceR | (b) apple is bad and vaccines are bad | Aug 07 15:23 |
| CrystalMath | hmm i don't think he connected it like that | Aug 07 15:23 |
| leah | fun coincidence | Aug 07 15:23 |
| MinceR | (c) andrew lee is a nutcase | Aug 07 15:23 |
| leah | the last article was also seemingly unrelated to freenode | Aug 07 15:23 |
| MinceR | CrystalMath: they're presented together in the same article | Aug 07 15:23 |
| leah | i get lee's narrative. freedom of speech | Aug 07 15:23 |
| CrystalMath | yeah but vaccines are given a passing mention | Aug 07 15:23 |
| leah | what i don't understand is the purpose of this article | Aug 07 15:23 |
| CrystalMath | and the only inaccuracy is just two words | Aug 07 15:23 |
| leah | and the vaccine stuff is bollocks | Aug 07 15:23 |
| CrystalMath | "mutates cells", you could argue against this part | Aug 07 15:24 |
| MinceR | also, i wonder how it takes someone this long to realize that all the ads about crApple's support for privacy are lies | Aug 07 15:24 |
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| schestowitz-TR | everything mutates and evvolves | Aug 07 15:24 |
| leah | in my country (UK), covid deaths are far far lower as a result of people getting the jab | Aug 07 15:24 |
| CrystalMath | untested? true... mRNA vaccines have not been used for as many decades as classical vaccines | Aug 07 15:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | but... | Aug 07 15:24 |
| MinceR | especially for someone who's supposed to be working in IT | Aug 07 15:24 |
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| CrystalMath | i myself have presented this claim here before, but not as an anti-vax idea, but as a pro-classical-vax idea | Aug 07 15:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | the insinuation there is that the jabs will change you as a person, DON'T DO IT MAN! | Aug 07 15:24 |
| leah | schestowitz-TR: i'll now read your article | Aug 07 15:24 |
| MinceR | CrystalMath: mRNA vaccines do not change your DNA | Aug 07 15:24 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: that is correct but mRNA was not mentioned in the article | Aug 07 15:24 |
| MinceR | CrystalMath: neither do adenovirus vector vaccines | Aug 07 15:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | leah: cheers, hopefully no typos | Aug 07 15:25 |
| leah | schestowitz-TR: you know, it's actually impossible to get an electric shock in UK homes. if the socket is wired right | Aug 07 15:25 |
| MinceR | or protein subunit vaccines, or virus-like-particle vaccines | Aug 07 15:25 |
| CrystalMath | ah yes but you can maybe forgive this mistake, adenovirus vectors are also used for gene therapy | Aug 07 15:25 |
| MinceR | or inactivated/weakened virus vaccines if the virus they use can't alter your DNA | Aug 07 15:25 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Aug 07 15:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | leah: I got elertrocuted as a kid as few times | Aug 07 15:25 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: what? for what i said? | Aug 07 15:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | sticking things in the socket is not a good idea | Aug 07 15:25 |
| MinceR | yes | Aug 07 15:25 |
| CrystalMath | i have articles! | Aug 07 15:25 |
| CrystalMath | hold on | Aug 07 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | but sockets and fuses improve over time | Aug 07 15:26 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: i actually studied this years ago | Aug 07 15:26 |
| leah | this is in response to the photo of the man with the fork in your article. here, you can't easily stick metal in the live/hot hole on the wall. there's a plastic shutter. it only opens when you insert a plug. when a prong goes through the ground/earth hole, the shutters release and the live+neutral prongs can go in | Aug 07 15:26 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: one of a million: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31209054/ | Aug 07 15:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov | Direct delivery of adenoviral CRISPR/Cas9 vector into the blastoderm for generation of targeted gene knockout in quail - PubMed | Aug 07 15:26 | |
| CrystalMath | this is a commonly done thing | Aug 07 15:26 |
| leah | CrystalMath: you still on freenode's side btw? | Aug 07 15:27 |
| leah | just curious :) no judgement | Aug 07 15:27 |
| CrystalMath | leah: well... i'm not on the illibera side... and i still think freenode's politics should be more represented in the FLOSS world, but i can't really say i support SASL-only and TLS-only | Aug 07 15:28 |
| CrystalMath | so i completely understand why freenode's numbers are fallng | Aug 07 15:28 |
| CrystalMath | *falling | Aug 07 15:28 |
| MinceR | CrystalMath: interesting | Aug 07 15:28 |
| leah | they force SASL now? | Aug 07 15:28 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: here's a scary title, but again nothing new: https://www.nature.com/articles/srep05105 | Aug 07 15:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nature.com | Adenoviral vector delivery of RNA-guided CRISPR/Cas9 nuclease complexes induces targeted mutagenesis in a diverse array of human cells | Scientific Reports | Aug 07 15:28 | |
| leah | i already use sasl so i didn't notice (i'm still there, lurking my now dead channels that i bled dry, to get everyone to switch over to libera) | Aug 07 15:29 |
| CrystalMath | if you want to purposely scare someone who doesn't understand this stuff :P | Aug 07 15:29 |
| MinceR | CrystalMath: but in this case they deliver CRISPR they added to the virus, and none of the vaccines against SARS-CoV-2 are supposed to contain that | Aug 07 15:29 |
| leah | also, you can safely insert a fork into an electric socket, if there is no path to earth/ground through your body, or if you don't poke the hot/live hole | Aug 07 15:29 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: correct | Aug 07 15:30 |
| leah | (so, poke the neutral/ground holes only) | Aug 07 15:30 |
| leah | of course, i wouldn't recommend testing this | Aug 07 15:30 |
| CrystalMath | leah: and the only way to register on freenode now is irc.com | Aug 07 15:30 |
| leah | what | Aug 07 15:30 |
| CrystalMath | well, for now you can still use nickserv if you are connected | Aug 07 15:30 |
| leah | well i use sasl | Aug 07 15:30 |
| leah | but i don't *use* freenode. i'm just logged in still | Aug 07 15:31 |
| CrystalMath | yes but those who have no account can't connect | Aug 07 15:31 |
| CrystalMath | :( | Aug 07 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | freenode mutated | Aug 07 15:31 |
| CrystalMath | this is such a shot in the foot by freenode i just don't understand why | Aug 07 15:31 |
| CrystalMath | most of the new staff opposed this | Aug 07 15:31 |
| leah | yes it makes irc unusable | Aug 07 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | esp. for sites like ours | Aug 07 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | that want to enable easy and anon access | Aug 07 15:32 |
| CrystalMath | even snoonet didn't do this when it was linked to irc.com | Aug 07 15:32 |
| CrystalMath | it has been delinked when freenode linked, btw | Aug 07 15:32 |
| CrystalMath | a snoonet numbers are now improving :P | Aug 07 15:32 |
| CrystalMath | *and | Aug 07 15:33 |
| leah | ah | Aug 07 15:34 |
| leah | now i know what HIH stands for. i was wondering that, when reading fn.net articles | Aug 07 15:34 |
| leah | thanks schestowitz-TR | Aug 07 15:34 |
| CrystalMath | His Imperial Highness | Aug 07 15:34 |
| leah | according to you, it stands for "his imperial highness" | Aug 07 15:34 |
| CrystalMath | referring to his title at Joseon | Aug 07 15:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | which does not exist | Aug 07 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can make up my xanadu | Aug 07 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then make up a fancy title | Aug 07 15:35 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz-TR: but it's a historic thing :) | Aug 07 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the earlier days he did not use this self-glorification | Aug 07 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | now he's blatant about it and he'll run out of apologists | Aug 07 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | cyprehistoric to him | Aug 07 15:35 |
| leah | schestowitz-TR: btw did you write yet about the gnu assembly stuff? | Aug 07 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | and if he's 16th something, it means nada | Aug 07 15:36 |
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| MinceR | there was also something about the title being "god given" | Aug 07 15:36 |
| MinceR | i suspect that "god" isn't even historic :> | Aug 07 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | leah: I did a whole video | Aug 07 15:36 |
| leah | ah, link? | Aug 07 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | let me find it... | Aug 07 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | I tried not to name it even once | Aug 07 15:36 |
| leah | i'm launching my campaign against them soon | Aug 07 15:37 |
| leah | real life keeps getting in the way | Aug 07 15:37 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/gnu-coup/ | Aug 07 15:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Latest Anti-RMS Coup Attempt Targets the GNU Project (Because the FSF Coup Has Clearly Failed) by Infringing and Disregarding Trademark Conventions | Techrights | Aug 07 15:37 | |
| leah | (campaign against gnu.tools, in defense of gnu.org) | Aug 07 15:37 |
| leah | at this point i should just launch, ready or not | Aug 07 15:37 |
| leah | because real life doesn't go away | Aug 07 15:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | so this is the anti-anti-gnu | Aug 07 15:38 |
| techrights-news | Loss of freedom https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/for-every-freedom-we've-lost-we've:4 | Aug 07 15:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | For EVERY freedom we've lost; we've consented to losing them. NOT AGAIN! | Aug 07 15:41 | |
| leah | i'm not anti anything. being anti is unhealthy | Aug 07 15:41 |
| leah | i'm pro-GNU | Aug 07 15:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | :-D | Aug 07 15:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | souble nagation is pro- | Aug 07 15:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | *double | Aug 07 15:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | pro-rights | Aug 07 15:42 |
| leah | it is not | Aug 07 15:42 |
| MinceR | it's just framing | Aug 07 15:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | boycott novell | Aug 07 15:42 |
| leah | anti-anti- is less pro than pro- | Aug 07 15:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | when novell and microsoft are anti-rights | Aug 07 15:42 |
| leah | because when you're anti-, you lose energy and time | Aug 07 15:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | and pro-monopoly/sw patents | Aug 07 15:42 |
| leah | so you become less pro, due to burnout | Aug 07 15:42 |
| kingoffrance | :/ anti-anti is meta is what it is :) | Aug 07 15:42 |
| leah | it's better to just be positive, about something you support, and try to ignore/replace something if it's no good | Aug 07 15:42 |
| leah | and anti being anti | Aug 07 15:43 |
| kingoffrance | so you gain some +5 meta ability | Aug 07 15:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | leah: same effect | Aug 07 15:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | different communicaion strategy | Aug 07 15:43 |
| leah | yes | Aug 07 15:43 |
| kingoffrance | on other hand, i generally agree its better to be pro | Aug 07 15:43 |
| leah | and i think anti is bad marketing | Aug 07 15:43 |
| leah | you want to be pro | Aug 07 15:43 |
| leah | pro-<insert thing here that you believe in> | Aug 07 15:43 |
| leah | that brings people onboard because you make people feel good, by focusing on the positives and expanding upon them | Aug 07 15:44 |
| leah | anti is all about being negative. that's not to say you shouldn't oppose something bad | Aug 07 15:44 |
| leah | as you say, it's about communication strategies | Aug 07 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | "communication strategies" is a PR term | Aug 07 15:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I use that partly sarcastically | Aug 07 15:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | like "perception management" | Aug 07 15:45 |
| CrystalMath | i'm pro-RMS | Aug 07 15:46 |
| CrystalMath | and i like the current board of the FSF | Aug 07 15:46 |
| CrystalMath | i think that they truly understand the concept of FLOSS | Aug 07 15:46 |
| leah | yeah fsf is ok right now | Aug 07 15:46 |
| CrystalMath | while the GNU assembly people don't | Aug 07 15:47 |
| leah | and the people that need to be replaced are now leaving | Aug 07 15:47 |
| CrystalMath | for example, if you as a programmer think that it's your job to correct the world's injustices other than copyright, then you believe in *abusing* copyright, and you don't understand FLOSS | Aug 07 15:47 |
| leah | gnu assembly people are hypocrites | Aug 07 15:48 |
| leah | they use gnu.org infrastructure, and rely on gnu/fsf marketing, and rely on their positions in those projects, basically holding it hostage | Aug 07 15:48 |
| leah | they want to break away, while piggy backing off of it | Aug 07 15:48 |
| CrystalMath | i see FLOSS as a thorough rejection, and struggle against, the idea of programmers as the new priests of society | Aug 07 15:48 |
| kingoffrance | agree with schestowitz ; meta is needed to cut through bs some times :) | Aug 07 15:48 |
| kingoffrance | you need some meta to fight other meta :) | Aug 07 15:49 |
| CrystalMath | people who are anti-RMS do not seem to understand this, they accept programmers as the new priests of society and talk about "responsibility" | Aug 07 15:49 |
| CrystalMath | with great power comes great responsibility, but the idea of FLOSS is to *neutralize* the power of programmers | Aug 07 15:49 |
| CrystalMath | with no power comes NO responsibility | Aug 07 15:49 |
| leah | actually | Aug 07 15:49 |
| leah | i retract the word hypocrites | Aug 07 15:49 |
| leah | it was the wrong word | Aug 07 15:49 |
| leah | the correct word is: parasides | Aug 07 15:49 |
| leah | parasites | Aug 07 15:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | parasites ain't so bad | Aug 07 15:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | parasites are not dishonest | Aug 07 15:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | parasites do what they do to survive | Aug 07 15:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | on the other hand, some humans... | Aug 07 15:50 |
| techrights-news | #Ubuntu Should go for Rolling Release Between the LTS Versions โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154259 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 07 15:51 |
| leah | schestowitz-TR: listen to what CrystalMath said about "priests" | Aug 07 15:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Should go for Rolling Release Between the LTS Versions | Tux Machines | Aug 07 15:51 | |
| leah | i think it's correct reasoning | Aug 07 15:51 |
| leah | the whole problem boils down to the assumption that some people are more worthwhile than others | Aug 07 15:51 |
| leah | which is a false assumption | Aug 07 15:51 |
| leah | gnu is powerful because of all the people that work on it | Aug 07 15:52 |
| leah | it has strength in numbers and anyone is welcome to join it | Aug 07 15:52 |
| techrights-news | In centralised #Git repositories with a Web GUI, โforkingโ is just one mouse click away (although the fork is still controlled by the same masters); so forking is not hard, but making the fork supersede or overtake the original is the hard part http://techrights.org/2021/08/07/forking-needs-reason/ | Aug 07 15:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Forking is Easy, But the Hard Part is Finding a Strong Rationale for It (Essential for Momentum) | Techrights | Aug 07 15:52 | |
| leah | gnuassembly isn't like that. they want control | Aug 07 15:52 |
| techrights-news | Our focus on exposing organised crime and criminals is generally being recognised; but the term โtech rightsโ also spreads a little further as the reach of the message broadens โข ๐ป๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2021/08/07/tech-rights-eff-and-fsf/ ไท #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | โพ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/07/tech-rights-eff-and-fsf/ | Aug 07 15:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Tech Rights Go โMainstreamโ | Techrights | Aug 07 15:53 | |
| Ariadne | i'm supportive of the underlying concept of software freedom, that GNU want to advance. i'm not supportive of the code quality of most GNU software. | Aug 07 15:53 |
| schestowitz | leah: http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/ibm-and-the-coup/ | Aug 07 15:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Half the People in This Letter Are IBM Employees | Techrights | Aug 07 15:54 | |
| schestowitz | many IBMers: http://techrights.org/2020/06/05/guix-petition/ | Aug 07 15:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guix Petition Demographic Data, by Figosdev | Techrights | Aug 07 15:54 | |
| leah | gnu is 38 years old | Aug 07 15:54 |
| leah | not surprising to me that some people are stuck in their ways | Aug 07 15:54 |
| schestowitz | yes, 38 this october iirc http://techrights.org/2021/04/30/gnu-linux-turning-38/ | Aug 07 15:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Show Your Love for the GNU Operating System With These Banners | Techrights | Aug 07 15:54 | |
| techrights-news | #Microsoft Uses the Media to Attack GNU/Linux and It Also Utilises Windows โDefenderโ to Discourage Adoption of Free Software โข ๐ป๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2021/08/07/the-market-share-video/ ไท #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | โพ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/07/the-market-share-video/ | Aug 07 16:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Uses the Media to Attack GNU/Linux and It Also Utilises Windows โDefenderโ to Discourage Adoption of Free Software | Techrights | Aug 07 16:01 | |
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| techrights-news | old:#timBL before he handed over #w3c to #pentagon connected #monopolies that work for the army, Hollywood, NSA etc. https://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/1991/08/art-6484.txt | Aug 07 16:12 |
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| leah | https://irc.com/about | Aug 07 16:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IRC.com | About Us | Aug 07 16:54 | |
| leah | this is the most cringe thing of all time | Aug 07 16:54 |
| leah | "IRC.com, by freenode, brings IRC mainstream. With it's ease of registration, and powerful IRCv3 compliant capabilities, including avatars and emojis, IRC is now mainstream for everyone. Never miss a message and stay online 24/7 like you would expect with a messaging platform." | Aug 07 16:55 |
| leah | "With it's ease of use and friendly and familiar UI, IRC is now mainstream." | Aug 07 16:55 |
| leah | "IRC has arrived" | Aug 07 16:55 |
| leah | it's like... | Aug 07 16:55 |
| leah | what is this like | Aug 07 16:55 |
| techrights-news | Jupiter Hell shows off how brutal and thrilling a roguelike can be and it's out now | GamingOnLinux โ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/jupiter-hell-shows-off-how-brutal-and-thrilling-a-roguelike-can-be-and-its-out-now ไท #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games ๐ง | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/07/#latest | Aug 07 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jupiter Hell shows off how brutal and thrilling a roguelike can be and it's out now | GamingOnLinux | Aug 07 16:55 | |
| leah | this is like reading an ad about... | Aug 07 16:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Aug 07 16:55 | |
| leah | well just imagine some big company, not knowing its own product, but wanting to sex it up, so marketing gives it the old spin | Aug 07 16:56 |
| leah | that's what this sounds like | Aug 07 16:56 |
| leah | it's very uncanny | Aug 07 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Aug 07 16:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's... not compelling | Aug 07 16:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | and if the target audience is geeks, then... | Aug 07 16:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | wrong targeting | Aug 07 16:58 |
| leah | right but | Aug 07 17:00 |
| leah | "with it's ease of registration and powerful IRCv3 comlpiant capabilitities" | Aug 07 17:00 |
| leah | let me parody that for you. i'll do one for libreboot: | Aug 07 17:01 |
| leah | Libreboot, by libreboot.org, brings coreboot mainstream. With it's automated build system, and powerful GNU GRUB payload, including SeaBIOS, coreboot is now mainstream for everyone" | Aug 07 17:01 |
| leah | :P | Aug 07 17:01 |
| leah | it reads like someone who didn't know what they were writing about, was paid to write about it. that's how that irc.com page reads | Aug 07 17:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I would not defend it | Aug 07 17:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | either way, we're now better off with irc in our dns pocket | Aug 07 17:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | so we will be harder to intimidate | Aug 07 17:02 |
| leah | a wise voice in my head once told me: you gotta do you. focus on your strengths, not your weaknesses | Aug 07 17:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | I heard at the start of this year that the anti-RMS lobby misused IRC networks | Aug 07 17:03 |
| leah | i listen to that thought | Aug 07 17:03 |
| leah | lee didn't get the memo apparently | Aug 07 17:03 |
| leah | i actually tried the app, you know | Aug 07 17:03 |
| leah | the irc.com app | Aug 07 17:03 |
| leah | it's barely functional | Aug 07 17:03 |
| leah | it looks like the plan was for them to create basically another whatsapp/discord whatever, using irc as a backend | Aug 07 17:04 |
| activelow | the "IRC remotes" is noteworthy. seems it is proprietary. | Aug 07 17:04 |
| leah | the whole thing misses the point of irc though | Aug 07 17:04 |
| leah | irc is... irc | Aug 07 17:04 |
| leah | you either get it or you don't | Aug 07 17:05 |
| activelow | "What people are saying: nirvana> finally, some next level shit." | Aug 07 17:05 |
| leah | this isn't the year 1999 anymore | Aug 07 17:05 |
| leah | people have moved on from irc | Aug 07 17:05 |
| leah | free software projects still use it | Aug 07 17:05 |
| leah | because it's simply, efficient and does the job nicely | Aug 07 17:05 |
| leah | simple* | Aug 07 17:05 |
| leah | freenode should have focused on its strengths | Aug 07 17:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | I still use bash for lots of things | Aug 07 17:06 |
| leah | right now it's trying to be something it will never be | Aug 07 17:06 |
| leah | and can never be | Aug 07 17:06 |
| activelow | didn't check all details of IRCv3, the last ircd i verified was ircd-hybrid v7 and didn't bother with any update since then | Aug 07 17:06 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโ โโโโ โ โโโโโ โโโ โโ โโโโโ โโ โ โโโ โ โ โโโโโโ โ avg(k/sec) 20.48 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 29.05โ swarm size (avg): 278.14 โฒ | Aug 07 17:06 |
| leah | i mean irc is just this thing that will never die | Aug 07 17:06 |
| leah | it's like the xkcd comic | Aug 07 17:06 |
| leah | https://xkcd.com/1782/ | Aug 07 17:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Team Chat | Aug 07 17:06 | |
| schestowitz | back in April I was already urged to escape Freenode and its allied networks http://techrights.org/2021/05/08/communication-channels-cancel-mobbed/ | Aug 07 17:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Pro-Software Freedom Advocates and Free/Libre Software Supporters Face Barriers Due to Domination of Communication Channels (Beyond the Media) | Techrights | Aug 07 17:07 | |
| schestowitz | OFTC and now LC | Aug 07 17:07 |
| schestowitz | some of their staff is awesome, some is not | Aug 07 17:07 |
| leah | i personally know people who unironically use the default settings in irrsi | Aug 07 17:07 |
| schestowitz | they lack vetting and proper supervision | Aug 07 17:07 |
| schestowitz | and they could crack down on us | Aug 07 17:07 |
| leah | and use it daily. for productive discussion with developers, in their project | Aug 07 17:07 |
| schestowitz | like daemonFC with his racist rantings | Aug 07 17:08 |
| leah | wasn't that the problem with old freenode though? | Aug 07 17:08 |
| leah | that someone could... completely fuck it up | Aug 07 17:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | well, to recap yesterday's chat: | Aug 07 17:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | (which was long) | Aug 07 17:08 |
| leah | your contention that projects should self-host is a correct one | Aug 07 17:09 |
| leah | and it's on my todo | Aug 07 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | networks that don't care about channels they host are recipe for disaster | Aug 07 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | Lee is a Mac fan | Aug 07 17:09 |
| leah | for now libera seems fine though | Aug 07 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | Apple Macbook Air, iPhone etc. | Aug 07 17:09 |
| leah | tell me more about daemonFC | Aug 07 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | he won't care much about those thousands of active project channels | Aug 07 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they're at the mercy of someone who is not an actual stakeholder | Aug 07 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | and that should never be "allowed" | Aug 07 17:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | clown computing is the same | Aug 07 17:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | some nhs servers we supported was in vmware clown | Aug 07 17:10 |
| leah | would you prefer to have your own house | Aug 07 17:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | which got disbanded | Aug 07 17:10 |
| leah | or live in someone elses | Aug 07 17:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | vmware did not give a crap about those clients | Aug 07 17:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | leah: bad analogy | Aug 07 17:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | houses cost a lot to buy | Aug 07 17:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | in some places unbelievably so | Aug 07 17:10 |
| leah | well yes irc is cheap to run | Aug 07 17:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | running an irc server has a learning curve, but it is cheap. ircd is not heavy. | Aug 07 17:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | our ircd is a container with less than 10 processes | Aug 07 17:11 |
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| schestowitz-TR | match about to start | Aug 07 17:12 |
| schestowitz | http://uhdstreams.club/chat/ch5.php | Aug 07 17:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uhdstreams.club | NO TITLE | Aug 07 17:12 | |
| schestowitz | (may be spammy, but works) | Aug 07 17:12 |
| leah | what | Aug 07 17:12 |
| leah | i don't wanna watch tv lol | Aug 07 17:13 |
| leah | i didn't know you lived in the uk | Aug 07 17:13 |
| leah | that stream you linked is a british tv channel | Aug 07 17:14 |
| leah | well if you're going afk, i will also. i have things to do. thanks for the chat | Aug 07 17:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm still here | Aug 07 17:14 |
| XRevan86 | "even snoonet didn't do this when it was linked to irc.com" โ I misremembered it as Rizon. Yea, it was definitely snoonet. | Aug 07 17:15 |
| Ariadne | > ads | Aug 07 17:15 |
| leah | > ublock origin | Aug 07 17:15 |
| Ariadne | i mean the tv stream | Aug 07 17:15 |
| Ariadne | is ads | Aug 07 17:15 |
| leah | oh | Aug 07 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | not anymore | Aug 07 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | kickoff | Aug 07 17:15 |
| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/CUbQiPEV_s4?t=918 https://youtu.be/CUbQiPEV_s4?t=1130 โ I've listened to this podcast, these are two freenode-noteworthy timestamps. | Aug 07 17:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Destination Linux EP66 - Christel Dahlskjaer of PIA - YouTube | Aug 07 17:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Destination Linux EP66 - Christel Dahlskjaer of PIA - YouTube | Aug 07 17:15 | |
| leah | football channel amirite? | Aug 07 17:16 |
| XRevan86 | Overall, it doesn't give all too much insight, I guess I know a bit more about what Christel is like. | Aug 07 17:16 |
| leah | seems a bit random | Aug 07 17:16 |
| leah | enjoy your football :P | Aug 07 17:16 |
| leah | i don't like it myself | Aug 07 17:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | when is that interview from? | Aug 07 17:16 |
| XRevan86 | 2018 | Aug 07 17:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | she seems to have vanished this year | Aug 07 17:17 |
| leah | plus that stream is triggering as fuck. interlaced video | Aug 07 17:17 |
| leah | that's interlaced video | Aug 07 17:17 |
| leah | being deinterlaced, poorly | Aug 07 17:17 |
| Ariadne | this channel is available on directv | Aug 07 17:17 |
| Ariadne | in higher quality | Aug 07 17:17 |
| leah | this is 2021 | Aug 07 17:17 |
| leah | you should not be filming in interlaced video formats | Aug 07 17:17 |
| XRevan86 | Another interesting bit is that her Twitter account was from all the way back, 2007, and in May 2021 she just removed itโฆ | Aug 07 17:17 |
| leah | i can tell when i'm watching interlaced video | Aug 07 17:18 |
| Ariadne | > mcdonald's | Aug 07 17:18 |
| Ariadne | XRevan86: oh, she did that because she didn't want to get cancelled | Aug 07 17:18 |
| Ariadne | better to just preemptively retreat imo | Aug 07 17:18 |
| leah | better to face the music | Aug 07 17:19 |
| leah | cancel culture only works because a bunch of weak willed people want to feel like they're doing right for the world, so they band together. what they have is strength in numbers | Aug 07 17:19 |
| blitzed | !COFFEE | Aug 07 17:19 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: But it was already well-known in 2020 that freenode was sold to a corporation, what suddenly changed? Why is the Shellsโข logo thing so big? | Aug 07 17:19 |
| Ariadne | its not | Aug 07 17:20 |
| Ariadne | rasengan wanted to control freenode | Aug 07 17:20 |
| Ariadne | he got what he wanted | Aug 07 17:20 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: I only know about his actions to take control after tomaw becoming head of staff. | Aug 07 17:20 |
| Ariadne | he proabbly | Aug 07 17:20 |
| leah | if you try to hide from cancellation, you'll get cancelled even harder in the end, when you poke your head out | Aug 07 17:20 |
| Ariadne | told christel to quit | Aug 07 17:20 |
| Ariadne | who cares | Aug 07 17:20 |
| leah | someone who does wrong should face the consequences of their action, though mob justice is always bad | Aug 07 17:21 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: "who cares" โ it matters a lot; the narrative that floats around is that the staff bullied Christel to quit. | Aug 07 17:21 |
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| leah | you have to face it down. look it right in the eye, and let it know it can't control you | Aug 07 17:21 |
| Ariadne | why does it matter | Aug 07 17:21 |
| Ariadne | what has happened, has happened | Aug 07 17:21 |
| Ariadne | its a done deal | Aug 07 17:21 |
| Ariadne | but why would the staff "bully" christel to quit | Aug 07 17:22 |
| Ariadne | maybe at most they started calling her on her shit | Aug 07 17:22 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: post-mortem | Aug 07 17:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | [17:20] <Ariadne> rasengan wanted to control [something that might soon stop existing] | Aug 07 17:22 |
| leah | Ariadne: btw, i don't know much about christel. i know only that she owned freenode for almost 20 years | Aug 07 17:22 |
| leah | or was otherwise heavily involved | Aug 07 17:22 |
| leah | can you tell me what "her shit" was, in your opinion? | Aug 07 17:22 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: I know they were asking questions about the Shellsโข logo, andโฆ I hardly see that as bullying, nor do I see that as a good motivation to run away. | Aug 07 17:23 |
| Ariadne | well, for example, she set my cloak in 2016 to freenude/alcoholic-bunny/kaniini | Aug 07 17:23 |
| Ariadne | things like that. | Aug 07 17:23 |
| leah | i'm asking because i know you were inolved in freenode in the early days | Aug 07 17:23 |
| leah | oh | Aug 07 17:23 |
| leah | was that out of malice? | Aug 07 17:23 |
| leah | (guessing yes) | Aug 07 17:23 |
| Ariadne | who the fuck knows | Aug 07 17:23 |
| Ariadne | she probably thought it was funny | Aug 07 17:23 |
| Ariadne | but she didnt ask for permission | Aug 07 17:24 |
| leah | ok | Aug 07 17:24 |
| Ariadne | because my answer would have been 'fuck no' | Aug 07 17:24 |
| leah | abuse of power, then | Aug 07 17:24 |
| Ariadne | she used to do stuff like that all the tie | Aug 07 17:24 |
| Ariadne | and then staff | Aug 07 17:24 |
| Ariadne | would cover for her and be all apologetic about it | Aug 07 17:24 |
| XRevan86 | To me the stories point to that the staff couldn't do anything about Christel, and now suddenly she catapults away. That just doesn't compute from that perspective. | Aug 07 17:25 |
| Ariadne | XRevan86: nah rasengan definitely fired her | Aug 07 17:25 |
| Ariadne | and then made up the bullying story | Aug 07 17:25 |
| Ariadne | as a cover | Aug 07 17:25 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: ^ | Aug 07 17:25 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: Is he this disgusting as a person? | Aug 07 17:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | Ariadne: do we have evidence of it? | Aug 07 17:26 |
| Ariadne | no, i don't, but i know how rasengan operates | Aug 07 17:26 |
| Ariadne | i knew him prior to all of this stuff happening :) | Aug 07 17:26 |
| leah | well you can't go off of conjecture | Aug 07 17:26 |
| Ariadne | i can go off my gut | Aug 07 17:26 |
| leah | besides, lee has already proven himself to be an uncomprisingly stupid twat | Aug 07 17:26 |
| Ariadne | and i can say based on my knowledge that he definitely fired christel | Aug 07 17:27 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: But why wouldn't Christel then come out with that? It doesn't look like she has anything to lose. | Aug 07 17:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | we cannot report based on guesses :-) | Aug 07 17:27 |
| Ariadne | XRevan86: NDA | Aug 07 17:27 |
| leah | no need to go further than that. i think his goose is already well and truly cooked | Aug 07 17:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I just checked if there was evidence | Aug 07 17:27 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: Do NDAs exist that tell people not to disclose being fired? | Aug 07 17:27 |
| Ariadne | tbh, what probably happened was | Aug 07 17:27 |
| Ariadne | they probably got in a fight over freenode | Aug 07 17:27 |
| Ariadne | and then it was a mutual FOAD | Aug 07 17:27 |
| Ariadne | and then christel fucked off | Aug 07 17:28 |
| Ariadne | because thats what she does | Aug 07 17:28 |
| Ariadne | she will storm off and then come back months later | Aug 07 17:28 |
| leah | so it is your opinion that this person, christel, will make a re-appearance in public, and commit some kind of act | Aug 07 17:28 |
| Ariadne | at some point, yes | Aug 07 17:29 |
| Ariadne | she will probably try to wiggle her way into libera | Aug 07 17:29 |
| leah | honestly though? | Aug 07 17:29 |
| leah | schestowitz-TR is right | Aug 07 17:29 |
| leah | we all need to self-host | Aug 07 17:29 |
| Ariadne | i think the libera team will not go for it tho | Aug 07 17:29 |
| leah | that's what i want to do, whenever i have the time and motivation to sit down and really make sure i get it right, and set up a server | Aug 07 17:29 |
| Ariadne | there needs to be many irc networks that are small | Aug 07 17:30 |
| Ariadne | not giant mega networks | Aug 07 17:30 |
| leah | honestly, libera is a huge unknown at this point | Aug 07 17:30 |
| Ariadne | solve the discoverability issue another way | Aug 07 17:30 |
| leah | so far, libera seems fine. it hasn't done anything really bad, and they seem to be running it competently | Aug 07 17:30 |
| Ariadne | i think libera is ok for now. but if christel gets involved in it down the road, that would be not good | Aug 07 17:30 |
| *XRevan86 is still not a believer in small IRC. With XMPP it's so easy, with IRC, that doesn't really scale for an end-user. | Aug 07 17:31 | |
| leah | christel doesn't have a monopoly on bad (or good) behaviour though | Aug 07 17:31 |
| leah | it's inevitable at some point that someone will be found guilty of foul play | Aug 07 17:31 |
| leah | i really don't like the way libera started though | Aug 07 17:31 |
| Ariadne | i dont think they had much of a choice | Aug 07 17:32 |
| Ariadne | somebody had to do something to ensure all of this didn't go crashing into a concrete wall | Aug 07 17:32 |
| leah | technically libera was the one that did wrong at first. their initial act was a smear campaign against lee, who hadn't done anything wrong at that point, besides wanting to have more power over something he owned | Aug 07 17:32 |
| leah | lee's response to that smear and coup was to act like a complete idiot and do more damage himself, and ultimately prove the point of the libera people | Aug 07 17:33 |
| Ariadne | politics is ugly, what can i say | Aug 07 17:33 |
| XRevan86 | leah: I think if rasengan's lies were cleared up, that will improve Libera's foundation as well. That's one way this is not a "its a done deal". | Aug 07 17:33 |
| leah | he could have acted maturely, and done right by the world | Aug 07 17:33 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: that doesn't add up | Aug 07 17:33 |
| Ariadne | it really does | Aug 07 17:33 |
| leah | you know what though Ariadne? | Aug 07 17:33 |
| leah | if my project, Libreboot, loses IRC even for like | Aug 07 17:33 |
| leah | a week | Aug 07 17:33 |
| leah | i wouldn't care | Aug 07 17:33 |
| CrystalMath | jess told me that in march 2021, they managed to get rid of "the cabal" | Aug 07 17:33 |
| leah | i'd just set something else up | Aug 07 17:34 |
| CrystalMath | i asked if christel was a part of the cabal, she said yes | Aug 07 17:34 |
| leah | so if libera goes tits up at some point, whatever | Aug 07 17:34 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: yes, and she miscalculated | Aug 07 17:34 |
| leah | *i* control libreboot.org | Aug 07 17:34 |
| leah | i'll just charge the irc links there | Aug 07 17:34 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: but this was bad! | Aug 07 17:34 |
| Ariadne | because rasengan was also a problem | Aug 07 17:34 |
| CrystalMath | the cabal was the one against the closures of channels | Aug 07 17:34 |
| leah | aswell any other project that uses irc, if they need to change their irc link on their contact page | Aug 07 17:34 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: getting rid of christel was good | Aug 07 17:34 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: no it wasn't, christel wanted to stop the anti-free-speech and channel closures | Aug 07 17:34 |
| Ariadne | they miscalculated and thought rasengan would stay out of it | Aug 07 17:34 |
| Ariadne | lmfao | Aug 07 17:35 |
| Ariadne | if you believe that | Aug 07 17:35 |
| CrystalMath | their evil plan was thwarted | Aug 07 17:35 |
| Ariadne | you have been so connec | Aug 07 17:35 |
| XRevan86 | leah: I don't recall any examples of the Libera people making a smear campaign against rasengan. joepie91 is not a staffer. | Aug 07 17:35 |
| Ariadne | christel | Aug 07 17:35 |
| Ariadne | threatened | Aug 07 17:35 |
| Ariadne | to close #charybdis and kick alpine off the network | Aug 07 17:35 |
| Ariadne | because | Aug 07 17:35 |
| Ariadne | i gave commit rights on charybdis | Aug 07 17:35 |
| Ariadne | to somebody she hated | Aug 07 17:35 |
| leah | tomato tomato XRevan86 though i no longer care. libera won | Aug 07 17:35 |
| CrystalMath | leah: that doesn't really work in writing :P | Aug 07 17:35 |
| Ariadne | if you think christel is about free speech | Aug 07 17:35 |
| Ariadne | you are fucking dumb as rocks | Aug 07 17:35 |
| CrystalMath | but somehow i still read it correctly :P | Aug 07 17:35 |
| CrystalMath | "tomato tomato" | Aug 07 17:36 |
| sears_hardware | 16:29:28 < leah> *i* control libreboot.org | Aug 07 17:36 |
| leah | CrystalMath: you say tomato tomato, and i say tomato tomato | Aug 07 17:36 |
| sears_hardware | that solves the problem | Aug 07 17:36 |
| leah | what? | Aug 07 17:36 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: well that's disappointing to hear, but she didn't want ##truth closed down | Aug 07 17:36 |
| leah | what problem, sears_hardware ? | Aug 07 17:36 |
| Ariadne | yeah because it was convenient to her at that time | Aug 07 17:36 |
| sears_hardware | the problem of freenode.net being able to take over a channel | Aug 07 17:36 |
| CrystalMath | leah: the problem of others controlling you | Aug 07 17:36 |
| Ariadne | to take that position | Aug 07 17:36 |
| sears_hardware | freenode.net cannot take over a channel whose root domain is libreboot.org | Aug 07 17:36 |
| sears_hardware | or techrights.org | Aug 07 17:36 |
| sears_hardware | which brings us to the problem of DNS but whatever | Aug 07 17:37 |
| leah | oh, yeah i rule libreboot.org. until i think 2029 when it expires | Aug 07 17:37 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: how so? | Aug 07 17:37 |
| leah | then i'll renew it :P | Aug 07 17:37 |
| leah | 2028 | Aug 07 17:37 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: inaction is usually the safe option | Aug 07 17:37 |
| leah | not 9 | Aug 07 17:37 |
| leah | being on a big irc network is handy though | Aug 07 17:37 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: but she was right | Aug 07 17:38 |
| CrystalMath | these channels should not be closed down | Aug 07 17:38 |
| Ariadne | was she | Aug 07 17:38 |
| leah | you can easily just go to any channel without configuring your irc client for a million projects | Aug 07 17:38 |
| Ariadne | she was right *in your opinion* | Aug 07 17:38 |
| CrystalMath | there are people who are not-left-wing and into software freedom | Aug 07 17:38 |
| CrystalMath | we need to keep them | Aug 07 17:38 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: yes | Aug 07 17:38 |
| CrystalMath | you say that it wasn't ideological for her and yet she made the right call every time | Aug 07 17:38 |
| sears_hardware | they are doing a good job keeping themselves CrystalMath | Aug 07 17:38 |
| Ariadne | you need to start learning that phrase, "in your opinion." it makes your arguments more persuasive | Aug 07 17:38 |
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| sears_hardware | which is why mozilla has to try to hunt them down | Aug 07 17:39 |
| sears_hardware | and make very pretty visualizations of them | Aug 07 17:39 |
| CrystalMath | if a stopped clock is right every time i look at it, maybe it's not really a stopped clock | Aug 07 17:39 |
| sears_hardware | LOL | Aug 07 17:39 |
| sears_hardware | CrystalMath's opinion - the stopped clock | Aug 07 17:39 |
| Ariadne | anyway i don't have any opinion on ##truth either | Aug 07 17:39 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: i left that channel but i don't think it should be destroyed | Aug 07 17:39 |
| leah | confirmed, what CrystalMath said | Aug 07 17:39 |
| leah | i've met several coreboot and linux kernel developers who are extremely conservative | Aug 07 17:39 |
| CrystalMath | i've recently rejoined its rizon version, but i'm gonna leave it again | Aug 07 17:39 |
| sears_hardware | CrystalMath: we could say that by choosing to remain on a non-libre platform they deserve to be destroyed :) | Aug 07 17:40 |
| CrystalMath | sears_hardware: what non-libre platform? | Aug 07 17:40 |
| sears_hardware | leenode | Aug 07 17:40 |
| sears_hardware | libera | Aug 07 17:40 |
| sears_hardware | whatever | Aug 07 17:40 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: christel is willing to be tolerant of things, but she has no problem threatening other people's speech when it suits her | Aug 07 17:40 |
| Ariadne | so, she is really no ally of free speech | Aug 07 17:40 |
| leah | do what i do | Aug 07 17:41 |
| leah | don't moderate | Aug 07 17:41 |
| leah | let people bite each other's heads off | Aug 07 17:41 |
| leah | but that's up to you | Aug 07 17:41 |
| sears_hardware | Ariadne: indeed true allies of free speech are so hard to find | Aug 07 17:41 |
| Ariadne | christel is the reason why charybdis became solanum, btw | Aug 07 17:41 |
| Ariadne | she created a situation where charybdis maintenance became basically impossible | Aug 07 17:41 |
| leah | and also oppose there being anyone to stop such chaos | Aug 07 17:41 |
| Ariadne | because people were afraid to participate lest they be k-lined from freenode | Aug 07 17:41 |
| sears_hardware | ordo ab chao | Aug 07 17:41 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: huh? | Aug 07 17:42 |
| CrystalMath | she k-lined people who worked on charybdis? | Aug 07 17:42 |
| Ariadne | she threatened to | Aug 07 17:42 |
| CrystalMath | ah i see | Aug 07 17:42 |
| Ariadne | we "gave in" and removed commit access from the person she disliked | Aug 07 17:42 |
| Ariadne | but then terminated the project | Aug 07 17:42 |
| sears_hardware | the threat is more powerful than the execution | Aug 07 17:42 |
| Ariadne | the execution would have been unfortunate, but in hindsight, alpine would have just moved to OFTC | Aug 07 17:43 |
| sears_hardware | would were that moving were always so easy | Aug 07 17:43 |
| Ariadne | alpine on freenode was around 1500 users | Aug 07 17:43 |
| sears_hardware | although it is much easier if your users already are pointed directly to irc.libreboot.org anyway | Aug 07 17:43 |
| Ariadne | across all the channels | Aug 07 17:43 |
| Ariadne | so it was not easy, but it was ultimately doable | Aug 07 17:44 |
| Ariadne | we were planning to start an IRC for alpine itself | Aug 07 17:44 |
| Ariadne | but, those plans got cut short with the increasing instability of freenode | Aug 07 17:44 |
| sears_hardware | :) | Aug 07 17:44 |
| leah | Ariadne: now you've had the experience of having to move your channels to another network | Aug 07 17:47 |
| leah | so now you have an exact idea, in the real world, of how doable such an action is | Aug 07 17:47 |
| Ariadne | when you have a large community, you have to be more proactive | Aug 07 17:47 |
| sears_hardware | well if your irc channel is at irc.techrights.org you can move as many times as you want | Aug 07 17:48 |
| sears_hardware | and users don't care | Aug 07 17:48 |
| leah | ^ truth | Aug 07 17:48 |
| Ariadne | sears_hardware: SSL breaks that :( | Aug 07 17:48 |
| CrystalMath | irc.techrights.org is its own independent server :) | Aug 07 17:48 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: good, because it's crappy to just redirect the domain | Aug 07 17:48 |
| leah | independence is great | Aug 07 17:48 |
| CrystalMath | it can lead to password leaks | Aug 07 17:48 |
| sears_hardware | i don't see why SSL certificates don't work like SSH fingerprints | Aug 07 17:48 |
| CrystalMath | and people joining a network they don't like | Aug 07 17:48 |
| CrystalMath | by mistake :P | Aug 07 17:49 |
| CrystalMath | however, i have firewalled away all of libera's servers, so that cannot happen | Aug 07 17:49 |
| Ariadne | if we had waited until freenode were taken over by rasengan, it would have been a shitshow | Aug 07 17:49 |
| Ariadne | see also: what happened to redhat, ubuntu, suse | Aug 07 17:49 |
| sears_hardware | quite the pattern isn't it | Aug 07 17:49 |
| Ariadne | so, i am glad that we moved proactively | Aug 07 17:49 |
| Ariadne | it saved us a lot of trouble | Aug 07 17:49 |
| leah | Ariadne: the way i handled it was very unique, but wouldn't work for a project any bigger than libreboot | Aug 07 17:50 |
| leah | i successfully drained #libreboot on freenode, and i *still* am the op there. but it is officially only on libera now | Aug 07 17:50 |
| leah | turned out all i had to do was wait a few extra weeks after the heat died down, when freenode already knew it had lost | Aug 07 17:50 |
| Ariadne | anyway, libera is problematic too, because the people who run it have the same power | Aug 07 17:50 |
| CrystalMath | i didn't have to drain anything, freenode turned SASL-only and my channels were wrecked | Aug 07 17:51 |
| Ariadne | the power to destroy somebody's career | Aug 07 17:51 |
| CrystalMath | people who cared joined on EFNet | Aug 07 17:51 |
| CrystalMath | or rizon | Aug 07 17:51 |
| CrystalMath | before freenode turned SASL-only things were looking good | Aug 07 17:51 |
| Ariadne | however... in the absence of a more friendly UX | Aug 07 17:51 |
| leah | CrystalMath: do you like mcdonalds? | Aug 07 17:51 |
| CrystalMath | leah: not too much, why? | Aug 07 17:51 |
| Ariadne | libera is tolerable for now | Aug 07 17:52 |
| leah | ok, but have you eaten there? | Aug 07 17:52 |
| CrystalMath | once or twice | Aug 07 17:52 |
| leah | there is a point to this | Aug 07 17:52 |
| Ariadne | i would prefer to see small islands, with good clients that can handle it | Aug 07 17:52 |
| leah | well, you know how you get a menu | Aug 07 17:52 |
| Ariadne | a menu? | Aug 07 17:52 |
| *swaggboi has quit (Quit: C-x C-c) | Aug 07 17:52 | |
| Ariadne | mcdonalds does not have menus in the US | Aug 07 17:52 |
| leah | you get to choose from the menu | Aug 07 17:52 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: nor here | Aug 07 17:52 |
| Ariadne | they have some stuff on a board | Aug 07 17:52 |
| CrystalMath | yeah | Aug 07 17:52 |
| leah | yeah, that's the menu | Aug 07 17:52 |
| Ariadne | o ok | Aug 07 17:52 |
| Ariadne | carry on | Aug 07 17:52 |
| leah | can you choose anything besides what's on the menu? | Aug 07 17:52 |
| CrystalMath | bnope | Aug 07 17:53 |
| CrystalMath | *noe | Aug 07 17:53 |
| CrystalMath | *nope | Aug 07 17:53 |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights โ World Kung Fu Governing Body Uses Copyright Law to Hunt Down #YouTube Critics https://torrentfreak.com/world-kung-fu-governing-body-uses-copyright-law-to-hunt-down-youtube-critics-210806/ | Aug 07 17:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-World Kung Fu Governing Body Uses Copyright Law to Hunt Down YouTube Critics * TorrentFreak | Aug 07 17:53 | |
| CrystalMath | 3 attempts to type that, wow | Aug 07 17:53 |
| leah | ok, now you're cooking a cheeseburger at home | Aug 07 17:53 |
| CrystalMath | oh i do that :) | Aug 07 17:53 |
| leah | picture how much more choice you have what goes in the burger | Aug 07 17:53 |
| leah | that's self-hosting | Aug 07 17:53 |
| leah | outsourced hosting is the mcdonalds menu | Aug 07 17:53 |
| CrystalMath | and yet.... when i make them at home, all i do is recreate the old 80s McDLT exactly | Aug 07 17:53 |
| sears_hardware | you can actually ask them to make a modification in the mcdonalds teller | Aug 07 17:53 |
| leah | and i'm well aware of that, while using libera. it's a temporary fix just so i can focus on other things for now | Aug 07 17:53 |
| sears_hardware | which they may or may not do properly | Aug 07 17:54 |
| leah | but self-hosting is on the agenda | Aug 07 17:54 |
| leah | i *do not* trust libera staff | Aug 07 17:54 |
| leah | their network started based on a massive smear campaign they started against who was at that time an innocent man | Aug 07 17:54 |
| CrystalMath | leah: well that's good for libreboot, but all i have is new projects, none of my old ones got big | Aug 07 17:54 |
| leah | rasangan only did fucked up stuff *after* libera came online | Aug 07 17:54 |
| CrystalMath | except for ReactOS which uses mattermost | Aug 07 17:54 |
| CrystalMath | i *should* code that mattermost IRC gateway | Aug 07 17:54 |
| leah | well, libera could crack down on *me* in the future, if they wanted | Aug 07 17:54 |
| CrystalMath | i have some code already | Aug 07 17:54 |
| leah | i'm at their mercy | Aug 07 17:54 |
| leah | and i'm under no illusion that i matter to them in any way | Aug 07 17:54 |
| leah | they'd gladly kick #libreboot off the network. or hijack it | Aug 07 17:55 |
| leah | if it suited their purpose, they would do it | Aug 07 17:55 |
| CrystalMath | for now they tolerate pro-RMS people i've heard | Aug 07 17:55 |
| sears_hardware | leah: how do you feel about frame.work laptop | Aug 07 17:55 |
| leah | oh, well in terms of coreboot it's a waste of time. it's intel stuff right? | Aug 07 17:56 |
| leah | but the right to repair aspect is great | Aug 07 17:56 |
| leah | it's a fully repairable laptop, with schematics and boardviews, right? | Aug 07 17:56 |
| leah | and that's great | Aug 07 17:56 |
| leah | i'm able to compartmentalize that aspect above all others | Aug 07 17:56 |
| leah | on that basis alone it's already at least better than purism | Aug 07 17:56 |
| leah | and probably about the same freedom-wise (software freedom) as a system76 laptop | Aug 07 17:57 |
| leah | if that's your thing, go for it | Aug 07 17:57 |
| sears_hardware | thanks | Aug 07 17:57 |
| leah | i won't stop you | Aug 07 17:57 |
| leah | there is some confusion in their marketing | Aug 07 17:57 |
| leah | i've seen reports, unconfirmed by me yet, that they might come with intel bootguard | Aug 07 17:57 |
| leah | and maybe won't | Aug 07 17:57 |
| leah | i haven't looked into them too much yet | Aug 07 17:58 |
| leah | i actually learned about them only a few days ago | Aug 07 17:58 |
| leah | i don't think they'll be the last such company jumping on right to repair | Aug 07 17:58 |
| leah | look at the executive order by biden recently | Aug 07 17:58 |
| leah | and rossman's reporting on it | Aug 07 17:58 |
| leah | https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=GE-qEDjUJYY that video | Aug 07 17:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vid.puffyan.us | BIDEN SIGNS EXECUTIVE ORDER ON RIGHT TO REPAIR! - Invidious | Aug 07 17:59 | |
| leah | far from the end, but an excellent start | Aug 07 17:59 |
| CrystalMath | hmm, Biden's been doing some good things lately | Aug 07 18:00 |
| CrystalMath | leaving afghanistan, now this | Aug 07 18:00 |
| CrystalMath | maybe he heard some tips from his friend Andrew Lee :P | Aug 07 18:01 |
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| leah | oh, yeah lol | Aug 07 18:01 |
| leah | it says in the previous freenode article that lee is friends with potus | Aug 07 18:01 |
| CrystalMath | since freenode.net says they're friends | Aug 07 18:01 |
| leah | which i assume means biden | Aug 07 18:01 |
| leah | yes | Aug 07 18:01 |
| leah | potus = president of the united states | Aug 07 18:01 |
| CrystalMath | yes i'm aware | Aug 07 18:02 |
| leah | well framework is interesting | Aug 07 18:02 |
| sears_hardware | i just wish it had more ports | Aug 07 18:02 |
| sears_hardware | 1 headphone + 1 hdmi + 1 power recharge + 1 usb mouse and there's only one slot left | Aug 07 18:02 |
| leah | usb hub | Aug 07 18:03 |
| CrystalMath | sears_hardware: i wish it had plain VGA | Aug 07 18:03 |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights โ #YouTube Rippers Shut Down in US & #UK After Giving Up Legal Fight https://torrentfreak.com/youtube-rippers-shut-down-in-us-uk-after-giving-up-legal-fight-210806/ | Aug 07 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-YouTube Rippers Shut Down in US & UK After Giving Up Legal Fight * TorrentFreak | Aug 07 18:04 | |
| leah | ouch | Aug 07 18:04 |
| leah | https://frame.work/products/laptop | Aug 07 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-frame.work | Framework | Framework Laptop | Aug 07 18:04 | |
| leah | >windows 10 | Aug 07 18:04 |
| leah | lol | Aug 07 18:04 |
| sears_hardware | you can get it with no os | Aug 07 18:05 |
| leah | if they ship it with coreboot (and not shimboot) it'd be great | Aug 07 18:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I did a video about this lousy laptop | Aug 07 18:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | "open" | Aug 07 18:05 |
| leah | but i've seen this with purism | Aug 07 18:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | later they added a no-OS option | Aug 07 18:05 |
| leah | a bunch of hype. and then i get disappointed | Aug 07 18:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | only after backlash | Aug 07 18:05 |
| sears_hardware | other than being expensive for the raw stats what's wrong with it | Aug 07 18:06 |
| leah | ok, i backtrack my enthusiasm for now | Aug 07 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's so customisable... that you cannot even deatch the malware from it :-) | Aug 07 18:06 |
| leah | retract i mean | Aug 07 18:06 |
| leah | i mean it's intel | Aug 07 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | who, ME? | Aug 07 18:06 |
| leah | i'm well aware that it's going to be binary blobs in firmware | Aug 07 18:06 |
| leah | even if coreboot | Aug 07 18:06 |
| leah | it'll be blobs from intel | Aug 07 18:06 |
| sears_hardware | yeah i mean say i want to buy a laptop | Aug 07 18:07 |
| sears_hardware | what do i buy | Aug 07 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | "framework" is 99% marketing spam | Aug 07 18:07 |
| leah | rockchip chromebook | Aug 07 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | just like Shells.com | Aug 07 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | aka Shills | Aug 07 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | they pay "influeners" and "news" sites for plugs | Aug 07 18:07 |
| leah | or any libreboot laptop, or ivybridge/sandybridge coreboot laptop | Aug 07 18:07 |
| sears_hardware | well | Aug 07 18:07 |
| sears_hardware | why don't we have a list of approved laptops then | Aug 07 18:08 |
| leah | ivybridge/sandybridge is 100% free software in coreboot, though you do need the neutered ME | Aug 07 18:08 |
| leah | which technically is not part of coreboot | Aug 07 18:08 |
| leah | but the host cpu still does basically everything on that platform | Aug 07 18:08 |
| leah | not the me | Aug 07 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.pcmag.com/news/psa-if-you-get-a-best-buy-gift-card-on-a-usb-drive-in-the-mail-dont-plug | Aug 07 18:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PSA: If You Get a 'Best Buy Gift Card' on a USB Drive in the Mail, Don't Plug It Into Your PC | PCMag | Aug 07 18:08 | |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Aug 07 18:09 |
| sears_hardware | like i find https://retrofreedom.com/product/osboot-x230/ | Aug 07 18:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-. Libre X230 โ RetroFreedom | Aug 07 18:09 | |
| sears_hardware | it's intel too | Aug 07 18:09 |
| sears_hardware | so i don't see why criticize framework for use intel | Aug 07 18:09 |
| leah | ah, yes | Aug 07 18:09 |
| leah | i need to be specific and say: modern intel | Aug 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | framework is overpriced malware laptop | Aug 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | Vista 10 | Aug 07 18:09 |
| CrystalMath | leah: i have a 2006 intel machine now | Aug 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | the "no OS" option was added latere | Aug 07 18:09 |
| CrystalMath | with a Q6600 | Aug 07 18:09 |
| sears_hardware | i agree it's overpriced | Aug 07 18:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | and iirc it comes with a discount | Aug 07 18:10 |
| leah | x230 thinkpad is very good freedom-wise | Aug 07 18:10 |
| leah | i use one myself, with debian | Aug 07 18:10 |
| CrystalMath | leah: too bad libreboot can't work on the ASRock 4CoreDual-VSTA | Aug 07 18:10 |
| leah | it's 99% the way there to libreboot. coreboot is all free software on that machine | Aug 07 18:10 |
| leah | but you need the neutered ME (use me_cleaner util) | Aug 07 18:10 |
| CrystalMath | i have a spare ASRock 2CoreDual-VSTA | Aug 07 18:10 |
| CrystalMath | i can mess with it | Aug 07 18:10 |
| CrystalMath | maybe i can try getting coreboot to work | Aug 07 18:10 |
| sears_hardware | okay | Aug 07 18:10 |
| leah | well on modern intel, there is no coreboot, or coreboot is just a shim loading intel blobs that do the actual hardware initialization | Aug 07 18:11 |
| leah | so it's like | Aug 07 18:11 |
| leah | meh | Aug 07 18:11 |
| CrystalMath | leah: this is 2006 | Aug 07 18:11 |
| CrystalMath | hardly modern, there is no ME at all | Aug 07 18:11 |
| CrystalMath | all my machines are pre-2010 | Aug 07 18:11 |
| leah | imo intel haswell is the last usable intel platform. that one isn't actually free yet, raminit and a bunch of stuff is a blob, but coreboot is reverse engineering that and making progress. after haswell, i think intel is doomed in terms of coreboot and having something that is meaningfully free | Aug 07 18:11 |
| leah | x86 is a dead end | Aug 07 18:12 |
| leah | so like | Aug 07 18:12 |
| CrystalMath | leah: what do you think of Intel Kentsfield? | Aug 07 18:12 |
| XRevan86 | leah: "though i no longer care. libera won" โ well, obviously. | Aug 07 18:12 |
| leah | framework's decision to use x86 is a mistake i think | Aug 07 18:12 |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #Techdirt # โ Report Again Finds US Government IT #Security Sucks, Three Years After Saying The Same Thing https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210804/10592147303/report-again-finds-us-government-it-security-sucks-three-years-after-saying-same-thing.shtml too much #proprietarySoftware for #kickbacks , #bribes | Aug 07 18:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Report Again Finds US Government IT Security Sucks, Three Years After Saying The Same Thing | Techdirt | Aug 07 18:12 | |
| leah | as an oem producing newer hardware, it's a mistake | Aug 07 18:12 |
| leah | they should use something based on riscv instead, which is actually free | Aug 07 18:12 |
| CrystalMath | Lemote Yeeloong <3 | Aug 07 18:13 |
| leah | https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/precursor | Aug 07 18:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.crowdsupply.com | Precursor | Crowd Supply | Aug 07 18:13 | |
| leah | have you seen that? | Aug 07 18:13 |
| leah | looks like a phone | Aug 07 18:13 |
| leah | but it's actually more like a palm pilot | Aug 07 18:13 |
| leah | riscv thing | Aug 07 18:13 |
| leah | do that but as a laptop | Aug 07 18:13 |
| leah | with schematics and boardviews | Aug 07 18:13 |
| leah | especially boardview. that's what you need for repair | Aug 07 18:14 |
| leah | CrystalMath: and that won't last | Aug 07 18:14 |
| leah | what you're doing is stockpiling | Aug 07 18:14 |
| leah | which is fine | Aug 07 18:14 |
| leah | but it won't last. we need something new | Aug 07 18:15 |
| CrystalMath | right | Aug 07 18:15 |
| CrystalMath | but maybe i can hold out until RISC-V gets cheap :D | Aug 07 18:15 |
| XRevan86 | leah: "so now you have an exact idea, in the real world, of how doable such an action is" โ not really, because the experience is around a sinking ship, it doesn't reflect people's willingness in other circumstances. | Aug 07 18:15 |
| leah | well right now you're probably going to not actually have a real riscv chip | Aug 07 18:15 |
| leah | but rather, an fpga | Aug 07 18:15 |
| techrights-news | 22 Linux Networking Commands for Sysadmin โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154260 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 07 18:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 22 Linux Networking Commands for Sysadmin | Tux Machines | Aug 07 18:16 | |
| leah | XRevan86: Ariadne then do it anyway, and have people gradually move if they wish | Aug 07 18:16 |
| techrights-news | #Krita 4.4.7 Released โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154261 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 07 18:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Krita 4.4.7 Released | Tux Machines | Aug 07 18:16 | |
| leah | by the time anything stupid like the freenode/libera split happens again, you'll be ready to switch | Aug 07 18:16 |
| techrights-news | #Thunderbird 91 Promises New Account Setup Wizard with CalDAV Support, Encryption, and More โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154262 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 07 18:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Thunderbird 91 Promises New Account Setup Wizard with CalDAV Support, Encryption, and More | Tux Machines | Aug 07 18:16 | |
| techrights-news | #Google #Android Leftovers โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154263 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 07 18:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Aug 07 18:17 | |
| XRevan86 | leah: "their network started based on a massive smear campaign they started against who was at that time an innocent man" โ ye just said ye didn't care %). I guess it's still important to set the record straight. | Aug 07 18:17 |
| XRevan86 | leah: "rasangan only did fucked up stuff *after* libera came online" โ the word would be "publicly". | Aug 07 18:17 |
| leah | meh | Aug 07 18:18 |
| leah | a guy like that is laughing every time a stupid person like me wastes time talking about him. i'm pretty sure he just enjoys the attention, for the lulz | Aug 07 18:19 |
| leah | i should stop discussing him | Aug 07 18:19 |
| XRevan86 | leah: Having two separate places is unpleasant. Albeit, the solution that we have here with matterbridge improves that considerably. | Aug 07 18:20 |
| XRevan86 | Or rather, "had", it lost most of its value. | Aug 07 18:21 |
| leah | yes the illusion of one big grand network is shattered | Aug 07 18:23 |
| leah | i think a lot of people don't trust libera but see it as sort of a continuity for the time being | Aug 07 18:23 |
| XRevan86 | leah: Even "Lee's Side" shows that there was a lot happening before Libera was a thing. | Aug 07 18:24 |
| leah | seriously though, right now i could nuke my channel | Aug 07 18:24 |
| leah | seriously | Aug 07 18:24 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: i'm on like 12 networks | Aug 07 18:24 |
| XRevan86 | leah: On freenode? No one cares, yes. | Aug 07 18:24 |
| leah | i'm on irc for fun | Aug 07 18:24 |
| leah | on libera, XRevan86 | Aug 07 18:24 |
| leah | i'm the op of #libreboot on libera | Aug 07 18:24 |
| leah | i'm only there for opsec. and historical reasons | Aug 07 18:25 |
| XRevan86 | leah: And? | Aug 07 18:25 |
| leah | yeah well, i think most projects are like that | Aug 07 18:25 |
| leah | they could do without irc or anything to replace it | Aug 07 18:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: 12 irc networks, 50mb of ram for gui, 5mb for text; 12 slack browser tabs: 5GB of RAM ;) | Aug 07 18:25 |
| XRevan86 | leah: Ah, in that sense. | Aug 07 18:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | I meant @ CrystalMath | Aug 07 18:25 |
| leah | some projects just have a git repository | Aug 07 18:25 |
| leah | and nothing else | Aug 07 18:25 |
| leah | plus maybe some docs | Aug 07 18:26 |
| XRevan86 | The next logical step after a self-hosted server for each project would be some kind of network of such servers for convinience. | Aug 07 18:26 |
| XRevan86 | โฆ and we just invented a classical IRC network | Aug 07 18:26 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: nah | Aug 07 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | they can uses p2p | Aug 07 18:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | but irc does not do that well afaik | Aug 07 18:27 |
| CrystalMath | projects don't all necessarily agree | Aug 07 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | same for git | Aug 07 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | the p2p git projects are not reliable, I have heard | Aug 07 18:27 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: maybe the discord way is better? a host that will just let you create your own IRC server | Aug 07 18:27 |
| CrystalMath | which is not linked with anything else | Aug 07 18:27 |
| leah | i wonder though | Aug 07 18:27 |
| leah | what if i could have both? | Aug 07 18:27 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Sounds like Libera. | Aug 07 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | discord is a ticking time bomb | Aug 07 18:27 |
| leah | host irc.libreboot.org but link it with libera | Aug 07 18:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait and prepare popcorn | Aug 07 18:27 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Reserve a namespace and enjoy your life. | Aug 07 18:27 |
| leah | get it actually put in the round robin | Aug 07 18:28 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: you can create your own *server* on libera? | Aug 07 18:28 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: where you're an ircop and don't have to follow ANY network rules? | Aug 07 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | The government reopened the intersection at Grand Avenue and US 41 after more than 11 years of construction. | Aug 07 18:28 |
| leah | meaning i'd host their other stuff too. i'd be a node for libera | Aug 07 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | leah: not everyone will reach your channel via the domain | Aug 07 18:28 |
| leah | on libera's round robin | Aug 07 18:28 |
| leah | but | Aug 07 18:28 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: A Discord serverโฆ ehm, guild, is not actually a server. | Aug 07 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | most join '/join #libreboot' | Aug 07 18:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | *just | Aug 07 18:28 |
| leah | oh wait | Aug 07 18:28 |
| leah | lol no | Aug 07 18:28 |
| leah | sorry ignore me | Aug 07 18:28 |
| leah | i'm dehydrated | Aug 07 18:28 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: yeah but imagine something like that for IRC, which would be an actual server | Aug 07 18:28 |
| leah | what i'm saying is nonsense | Aug 07 18:28 |
| CrystalMath | but with a master switch that lets you choose one via password like a bouncer | Aug 07 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | Government: There's a slight traffic jam at certain times of the day. Also government: Here, let's do an 11 year project creating an all day traffic jam that takes a long time to get through and costs tens of millions of dollars. | Aug 07 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, ^ | Aug 07 18:29 |
| leah | but didn't irc.gnu.org link to freenode? | Aug 07 18:29 |
| leah | prior to leenode | Aug 07 18:29 |
| CrystalMath | so you join... bnc.irchub.net (MADE UP DOMAIN) and then use the server password username/server:password | Aug 07 18:29 |
| leah | something like that feels like a nice compromise | Aug 07 18:29 |
| leah | and make sure people actually connect to that | Aug 07 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/us-added-943000-jobs-in-july-unemployment-rate-at-5-4/ | Aug 07 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | US added 943,000 jobs in July; unemployment rate at 5.4% | WGN-TV | Aug 07 18:29 | |
| CrystalMath | the BNC switches you to an internal IRC server! | Aug 07 18:29 |
| leah | but then you don't control nick/chanserv | Aug 07 18:29 |
| CrystalMath | which was created in some way | Aug 07 18:29 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, THank you for joining us again for Groundhog Day, where we "added" a million more jobs and the unemployment rate, once again, is "5.4%". | Aug 07 18:30 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: what do you think of this idea/ | Aug 07 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | This is impossible, you know. | Aug 07 18:30 |
| CrystalMath | then of course, the hub would still kinda own you :/ | Aug 07 18:30 |
| CrystalMath | and the hub could impose tyrannical rules like libera | Aug 07 18:30 |
| XRevan86 | leah: rianne was connecting to freenode through irc.ubuntu.com for misconfiguration reasons. schestowitz actually thought there's an impostor rianne on Libera :) | Aug 07 18:30 |
| leah | lol | Aug 07 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | If it was tracking a real unemployment rate and we were adding jobs 5 times faster than the number of new working age adults each month, the rate would go down. | Aug 07 18:30 |
| leah | DaemonFC: btw in the UK that happens | Aug 07 18:31 |
| leah | DaemonFC: in the UK, prior to covid, the unemployment statistics are very low | Aug 07 18:31 |
| leah | but most jobs are shit | Aug 07 18:31 |
| CrystalMath | but right now i am connected to libera... | Aug 07 18:31 |
| leah | like | Aug 07 18:31 |
| CrystalMath | libera.freenode.net :) | Aug 07 18:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | [18:19] <techrights-news> Fake relativism for fake optimism. The number of people working continues to decrease. The wages do too as inflation rises. https://truthout.org/articles/job-recovery-is-happening-far-more-quickly-than-it-did-after-great-recession/ | Aug 07 18:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Job Recovery Is Happening Far More Quickly Than It Did After Great Recession | Aug 07 18:31 | |
| leah | a lot of them self-employed people who in reality make fuck-all | Aug 07 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | There's now hiring signs everywhere. | Aug 07 18:31 |
| CrystalMath | leah: did you know there's a freenode server called libera.freenode.net? :) | Aug 07 18:31 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: That idea sounds like an abstraction that ultimately solves nothing. | Aug 07 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | Even at the Railway Museum they apologized that the diner wasn't open because of staffing issues. | Aug 07 18:31 |
| leah | yeah and i think libera.net was also registered | Aug 07 18:31 |
| Ariadne | oh my god | Aug 07 18:32 |
| leah | lee registered it | Aug 07 18:32 |
| Ariadne | you guys are still talking about this | Aug 07 18:32 |
| Ariadne | i literally went to the grocery store for like 45 minutes | Aug 07 18:32 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: i had a new IRC idea that people ignored | Aug 07 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | The best they could do was pre-made cheeseburgers and nachos at a little snack bar, so we waited and went to the Chinese restaurant on the way home. | Aug 07 18:32 |
| leah | but irc.libera.net is actually freenode | Aug 07 18:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | [17:29] <techrights-news> Crashing economy https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/08/06/inexcusably-cruel-75-million-set-lose-jobless-benefits-labor-day | Aug 07 18:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Inexcusably Cruel': 7.5 Million Set to Lose Jobless Benefits on Labor Day | Common Dreams News | Aug 07 18:32 | |
| CrystalMath | leah: yeah there's a freenode server called libera | Aug 07 18:32 |
| leah | host irc.libera.net | Aug 07 18:32 |
| leah | do that in your terminal | Aug 07 18:32 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: CrystalMath has a genius idea: what if a network allocates an autonomous server to each project like aโฆ Discord "server" (guild)! | Aug 07 18:33 |
| leah | now i wonder | Aug 07 18:33 |
| leah | those 10k users left on freenode | Aug 07 18:33 |
| leah | is that people joining irc.libera.net? | Aug 07 18:33 |
| leah | :P | Aug 07 18:33 |
| Ariadne | XRevan86: that was rasengan's pothead idea | Aug 07 18:33 |
| CrystalMath | leah: impossible because of SASL-only :( | Aug 07 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | some won't be able to connect back | Aug 07 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | so make it 9k | Aug 07 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are there only until their session lapses | Aug 07 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | The low wage employers gave out some relatively large raises earlier in the year. | Aug 07 18:33 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: It was? Great minds think alike. | Aug 07 18:33 |
| leah | when did that SASL-only rule come into effect? | Aug 07 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2 of my machines for example | Aug 07 18:33 |
| CrystalMath | leah: a week ago or so | Aug 07 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | But Walmart left some people making $12.90 an hour at this store. | Aug 07 18:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | leah: wednesday 15. weeks ago | Aug 07 18:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | or the day prior | Aug 07 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | Moves other people to $16-$17.50 to start. | Aug 07 18:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was deployed in a staged fashion, we think | Aug 07 18:34 |
| leah | also | Aug 07 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | The people making $12.90 got fed up and quit because they realized they weren't getting a raise and they couldn't move to another department. | Aug 07 18:34 |
| leah | Ariadne: you take 45 minutes to do grocery shopping? | Aug 07 18:34 |
| Ariadne | oh | Aug 07 18:34 |
| Ariadne | no | Aug 07 18:34 |
| leah | how long does it take you to get there? | Aug 07 18:34 |
| Ariadne | but i had to drive there | Aug 07 18:34 |
| Ariadne | and back | Aug 07 18:34 |
| leah | ok | Aug 07 18:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | no more webchats for freenode | Aug 07 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | they might as well remove that page | Aug 07 18:35 |
| Ariadne | like 15 minutes | Aug 07 18:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | it just complains you cannot access | Aug 07 18:35 |
| Ariadne | because there was a wreck | Aug 07 18:35 |
| leah | so, 15 minutes in store | Aug 07 18:35 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz-TR: Andrew Lee has requested its removal | Aug 07 18:35 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Um, but webchat can be authenticated too. | Aug 07 18:35 |
| sears_hardware | maybe trying to replace it with remotes | Aug 07 18:36 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: i still heard that Andrew Lee has requested the webchat's removal | Aug 07 18:36 |
| CrystalMath | one member from the infra team resigned | Aug 07 18:36 |
| CrystalMath | around that time | Aug 07 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Electric rates have been socialized. | Aug 07 18:36 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: What kind of yebobo is heโฆ | Aug 07 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | So "No inflation." because the government absorbed the loss (with tax money). | Aug 07 18:37 |
| XRevan86 | * yebobรณ | Aug 07 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | The Tollway Authority said our income last year (Mandy not working full year) was low enough to qualify for a program for a free transponder and a $20 one time preload. | Aug 07 18:38 |
| Ariadne | l o l | Aug 07 18:38 |
| Ariadne | $20 free credit | Aug 07 18:39 |
| Ariadne | so basically | Aug 07 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | The other benefits are the minimum top off is $4 at a time, so even if they don't renew it next year, I already got the transponder and $20 toll credit. That's the only major perk of the program. | Aug 07 18:39 |
| Ariadne | good for one trip on the skyway | Aug 07 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | CrystalMath: tell "root" ALL the "smart" phones have back doors | Aug 07 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | not just iOS/Apple | Aug 07 18:39 |
| Ariadne | ^^^^^^^^ | Aug 07 18:39 |
| Ariadne | unless you get | Aug 07 18:39 |
| XRevan86 | \ | Aug 07 18:39 |
| Ariadne | postmarketOS :) | Aug 07 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | Ariadne, I don't take the Skyway. | Aug 07 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | thus, he's pushing ALL freenode users to go into the pedoville fantasy he purports to be boycotting | Aug 07 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | but tell him when he is sober | Aug 07 18:39 |
| Ariadne | so like | Aug 07 18:39 |
| Ariadne | never? | Aug 07 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | so it won't fly over his head | Aug 07 18:39 |
| Ariadne | :p | Aug 07 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | Ariadne was right | Aug 07 18:40 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: When is port access going down? | Aug 07 18:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | freenode is marching towards 0 | Aug 07 18:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | it did NOT have to go like this though | Aug 07 18:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | we have 33 users in freenode atm | Aug 07 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | before the mess we peaked around 95 | Aug 07 18:41 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: That would be the next logical step requested by the yebobรณ of the freenode autonomous zone. | Aug 07 18:41 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: i have vaguely heard rumors about a possibility of /nick being disabled | Aug 07 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | Taking the Tollway costs $2.25 each way to get to Indiana and avoids that section where I-94 merges into I-80 that's always a bottleneck. | Aug 07 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | You end up trapped there for like half an hour. | Aug 07 18:42 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: but the person who told me this was intoxicated at the time | Aug 07 18:42 |
| techrights-news | โ NEWS โ #Techdirt โ Citizen Is Paying Users To Run The App And Their Mouths At Crime Scenes And Medical Emergencies https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210801/12405247285/citizen-is-paying-users-to-run-app-their-mouths-crime-scenes-medical-emergencies.shtml | Aug 07 18:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Citizen Is Paying Users To Run The App And Their Mouths At Crime Scenes And Medical Emergencies | Techdirt | Aug 07 18:42 | |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: That does sounds plausible though. | Aug 07 18:43 |
| XRevan86 | to make it easier to track people, for instance, when a quote is copied without the join event present. | Aug 07 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | If the Democrats had any sense at all, they'd be working non-stop to approve all of these judges. | Aug 07 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | Biden has nominated over 50 at this point and the Senate has only confirmed like 8 of them. | Aug 07 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | With the rules the Republicans rammed through last time, the Democrats could start the process and then turn to other business and come back in three days and install another judge. That's like 10 judges per month that they could approve, while working on legislation too. | Aug 07 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | They need to make their goal what McConnell's was and make sure that there aren't any vacancies on the federal courts by January 3rd of 2023, just in case. | Aug 07 18:47 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: I can easily imagine bagira making a case for that change. | Aug 07 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | The Senate could flip and then the Republicans would be pressured to vote as a block to make sure nobody gets confirmed for Biden's next 2 years in case they flip the White House back. | Aug 07 18:48 |
| CrystalMath | bagira is still banned today | Aug 07 18:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | from freenode? | Aug 07 18:49 |
| DaemonFC | "another sign that the U.S. economy continues to bounce back with surprising vigor from last yearโs coronavirus shutdown" | Aug 07 18:50 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz-TR: yes | Aug 07 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | Wow, and XRevan86 led me to believe Soviet newspapers werebad. | Aug 07 18:50 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz-TR: he's been banned for a while now | Aug 07 18:50 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz-TR: and nirvana was fired but then restored and made head of staff | Aug 07 18:50 |
| CrystalMath | bagira hasn't been staff for a long time now | Aug 07 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Crain's Chicago Business says 19.1% of Chicago restaurants failed and will never reopen. | Aug 07 18:51 |
| CrystalMath | eskimo was fried by the current head of staff | Aug 07 18:51 |
| CrystalMath | *fired | Aug 07 18:51 |
| sears_hardware | man | Aug 07 18:51 |
| CrystalMath | not fried :P | Aug 07 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | They also say that number is about 11-12% in most of the surrounding counties. | Aug 07 18:51 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Putin just straight-up said that Russia recovered. | Aug 07 18:51 |
| sears_hardware | one day i'm going to have to find out what "blockchain" means | Aug 07 18:51 |
| sears_hardware | people just can't stsop talking about it | Aug 07 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | <XRevan86> DaemonFC: Putin just straight-up said that Russia recovered. | Aug 07 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | Well, if Putin says so.... | Aug 07 18:52 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: if you want to keep up with changes in freenode staff and management you will need *hourly* updates | Aug 07 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Aug 07 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | Da, Comrade? | Aug 07 18:52 |
| sears_hardware | what is "blockchain-based authentication" | Aug 07 18:52 |
| XRevan86 | yep, the economy is great, recovered | Aug 07 18:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | [18:50] <CrystalMath> schestowitz-TR: yes <<---- cannot be a good signed when the same person who was ADMIn in a network is then BANNED by it | Aug 07 18:53 |
| XRevan86 | Food's oddly expensive though. | Aug 07 18:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | *sign | Aug 07 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | <XRevan86> Food's oddly expensive though. | Aug 07 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | Same here. I was just discussing this with schestowitz-TR. | Aug 07 18:53 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz-TR: well you don't know what bagira did? | Aug 07 18:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybt the SASL thing has more to it than we know about it | Aug 07 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | Steak is up by about a third vs. last year, for example. | Aug 07 18:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | like tightly controlling the network to prevent particular people entering | Aug 07 18:54 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: We know what he could do, but no, we don't. | Aug 07 18:54 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz-TR: he started attacking another freenode staffer, made fake linkedin accounts with insults, started calling everyone at freenode pedophiles | Aug 07 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | The big inflation seems to be in meat and in packaged goods. | Aug 07 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | like someone afraid of dirt from someone looking to 'settle' scores | Aug 07 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't seem to have hit dairy and produce as badly. | Aug 07 18:54 |
| CrystalMath | i have no explanation | Aug 07 18:54 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: bagira being bagira | Aug 07 18:54 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz-TR: nah bagira went nuts | Aug 07 18:55 |
| CrystalMath | i never would have expected to see this | Aug 07 18:55 |
| XRevan86 | I only talked to him several times in this channel, he's very self-righteous. | Aug 07 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | They push us harder and harder to shop online for groceries, so they can cancel my orders and let me wait a week for the authorization to drop off my credit card. | Aug 07 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Aug 07 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | Progress! | Aug 07 18:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: you cannot get big discounts this way | Aug 07 18:55 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: When he feels threatened, he can go to any measures. He doesn't believe in compromises. | Aug 07 18:55 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: even attacking his closest friends? | Aug 07 18:56 |
| CrystalMath | that's dishonorable | Aug 07 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, No you can't. Because they don't shop for meat markdowns, and that's more than half the cost of your grocery bill., | Aug 07 18:56 |
| CrystalMath | a stab in the back | Aug 07 18:56 |
| sears_hardware | https://medium.com/blockchain-blog/blockchain-based-authentication-of-devices-and-people-c7efcfcf0b32 | Aug 07 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Blockchain-based authentication of devices and people | by Rohas Nagpal | Blockchain Blog | Medium | Aug 07 18:56 | |
| sears_hardware | does anyone understand this | Aug 07 18:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | they overcompilicate things | Aug 07 18:57 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: He takes community purity very seriously, and when people do something that's not in his visionโฆ | Aug 07 18:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | people mock IBM for trying to replace simple DB with "blockchain" for no practical benefit, just buzzwords | Aug 07 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | I've never needed an alarm clock, oddly enough. I set one just in case, but I generally don't need one. | Aug 07 18:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | you do not wake up for work | Aug 07 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | Before I go to bed I think "4:30 AM" and it just happens, even if I've only been asleep for 3 hours by that point. | Aug 07 18:57 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: well the bagira i knew... was against baseless accusations of pedophilia, not doing them | Aug 07 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | No, but I did it last night and didn't set my alarm and Mandy forgot to set his. | Aug 07 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | So I woke up at 4:28 AM on my own and shook him awake and told him to throw some pants on and run for the car. | Aug 07 18:58 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: The encounter that I saw was bagira making baseless accusations on top of a minor transgression that a person actually did. | Aug 07 18:58 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Ye saw it too. | Aug 07 18:58 |
| XRevan86 | He does that. | Aug 07 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | That was pretty close. | Aug 07 18:59 |
| CrystalMath | hmm | Aug 07 18:59 |
| CrystalMath | who was it against? | Aug 07 18:59 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne? | Aug 07 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | It occasionally doesn't work, and that's why I set an alarm if I really need to be somewhere. | Aug 07 18:59 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: No, some dude that squatted his nick on Libera. | Aug 07 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | But for the most part I just think about when I need to be awake and I wake up then. It's like 99.5% reliable. | Aug 07 18:59 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: yeah bagira even told me he'll go to libera, which is nuts | Aug 07 18:59 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Whatever, point is, there was a point, but he also just made up stuff to be more mad about him. | Aug 07 19:00 |
| Ariadne | i think bagira is just somebody who takes irc drama with slackware people very seriously | Aug 07 19:00 |
| Ariadne | but is otherwise harmless | Aug 07 19:00 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: CrystalMath pretty much just said that bagira is not harmless %) | Aug 07 19:00 |
| Ariadne | lmfao | Aug 07 19:01 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: he kinda doxxed his best friends | Aug 07 19:02 |
| CrystalMath | and wrote that they're pedophiles | Aug 07 19:02 |
| Ariadne | haha when was that | Aug 07 19:02 |
| CrystalMath | umm, two weeks or so ago | Aug 07 19:02 |
| Ariadne | amazing | Aug 07 19:02 |
| CrystalMath | he was banned from freenode in the end | Aug 07 19:03 |
| CrystalMath | hold on i can check when the account was suspended | Aug 07 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Mandy wakes up at 4 for work. I wake up at 4 to take him to work. Ghetto, ghetto, ghetto man drives his bashed up car with no headlights down the wrong lane to scare the hell out of me on the way back. | Aug 07 19:03 |
| sears_hardware | doxxing very annoying | Aug 07 19:03 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: July 24th | Aug 07 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | It's a nice little rhythm. I suppose the cops may eventually catch Ghetto Man, but there's always more, assuming the judge even does anything to him if they do. | Aug 07 19:03 |
| sears_hardware | man time flies when you're having fun | Aug 07 19:04 |
| Ariadne | i should install this power liftgate kit for my tesla's frunk | Aug 07 19:04 |
| techrights-news | #LatteDock 0.10 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154254#comment-30484 | Aug 07 19:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latte Dock v0.10.0 | Official Stable Release | Tux Machines | Aug 07 19:05 | |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Oh, and the baseless accusations against that squatter person, they also involved an extensive amount of doxxing. | Aug 07 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | I finally have my answer as to how much a filthy air filter affects gas mileage on a 2003 Impala. | Aug 07 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | About 4% overall. | Aug 07 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | That's according to the computer. | Aug 07 19:05 |
| Ariadne | its fascinating to see how everyone who has intersected rasengan has been sent on a self-destructive trajectory, and also sad | Aug 07 19:05 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: hey i'm still alright | Aug 07 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | <Ariadne> i should install this power liftgate kit for my tesla's frunk | Aug 07 19:06 |
| Ariadne | i'm talking about the people who got staffed up | Aug 07 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | They had one in my 1996 Crown Victoria. | Aug 07 19:06 |
| Ariadne | your crown vic had a frunk? | Aug 07 19:06 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: i was briefly a helper, does htat count? | Aug 07 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | They had what was left of the wiring still in there when I bought it. | Aug 07 19:06 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โ โ โโโโโโ โ โโ โโโโ โโโ โ โโโ โโโโโโ โโโโ โ avg(k/sec) 20.38 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ โโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 41.91โ swarm size (avg): 278.08 โฒ | Aug 07 19:06 |
| CrystalMath | *that | Aug 07 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | Well, not exactly. | Aug 07 19:06 |
| Ariadne | on tesla, there is the trunk, and then there is also the frunk | Aug 07 19:06 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: but i wasn't asked to join the team by rasengan but by Foxy | Aug 07 19:06 |
| Ariadne | because theres no gas engine | Aug 07 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | It was meant to lift a rascal scooter out of the trunk for some old lady. | Aug 07 19:06 |
| Ariadne | so where the hood is, is more storage | Aug 07 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | I hate electric engines, honestly. | Aug 07 19:07 |
| Ariadne | ah yes, Foxy, the person who leaked a rizon user's IP | Aug 07 19:07 |
| Ariadne | to a script kiddie | Aug 07 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, I get that's where things are going, but it was simple, cheap, and reliable to keep something like a Crown Victoria going for a long time. | Aug 07 19:07 |
| Ariadne | rizon of course would like me to let you know that is just an allegation | Aug 07 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | Most of them make it to 500,000+ miles if you just take care of them a little. | Aug 07 19:07 |
| Ariadne | but, off the record i know it to be accurate :) | Aug 07 19:08 |
| DaemonFC | No Tesla will ever be worth that. | Aug 07 19:08 |
| Ariadne | dunno | Aug 07 19:08 |
| Ariadne | electric motors are pretty durable really | Aug 07 19:08 |
| Ariadne | teslas, however, are engineered so that repairing them is like playing a game of tetris | Aug 07 19:08 |
| techrights-news | : โDefenderโ is to Microsoft just a #Monopoly Defender; as it turns out, #Microsoft rapidly loses its monopoly power/rents http://techrights.org/2021/08/07/the-market-share-video/ | Aug 07 19:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Uses the Media to Attack GNU/Linux and It Also Utilises Windows โDefenderโ to Discourage Adoption of Free Software | Techrights | Aug 07 19:08 | |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: i think Foxy is a nice person | Aug 07 19:09 |
| Ariadne | nice or not, they did leak a user's IP | Aug 07 19:09 |
| Ariadne | it is possible for nice people to do bad things | Aug 07 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | Tesla uses secret software and doesn't produce repair manuals and nobody makes aftermarket parts for anything important. | Aug 07 19:10 |
| CrystalMath | but even if it did happen you have no evidence that it was deliberate | Aug 07 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | Much less the powertrain. | Aug 07 19:10 |
| CrystalMath | besides IP addresses are NOT a secret | Aug 07 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | Then when the car is out of warranty if it has a problem it may be sitting there for months, useless, before Tesla gets around to working on it. | Aug 07 19:10 |
| Ariadne | they are scrambled on rizon for non-opers :) | Aug 07 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | There's no fast chargers anywhere near me. | Aug 07 19:10 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: only in the last decade | Aug 07 19:10 |
| Ariadne | since the beginning, but plexus used to have leaks | Aug 07 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | And you need to swap out the entire battery, which is almost as expensive than a brand new gasoline engine was. | Aug 07 19:11 |
| Ariadne | look i just like having instant torque | Aug 07 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | And you can plan on doing that around 100,000-150,000 miles or so, which is why there's so many used battery cars on the market with about that many miles on them. | Aug 07 19:12 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: but still IP addresses were never a big deal | Aug 07 19:12 |
| CrystalMath | most networks never hid them | Aug 07 19:12 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: they are if you wanna ddos somebody | Aug 07 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | I probably wouldn't buy a used hybrid from a reputable and profitable company like Toyota, much less Elon Musk. | Aug 07 19:12 |
| techrights-news | "Edge is the modern day hydra... Cut it's head off and it multiplies and gets reinstalled." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC7offaMZ1Q while #microsoft incites against other companies: http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/ | Aug 07 19:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Uninstall Microsoft Edge and Keep it from Coming Back - YouTube | Aug 07 19:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | Techrights | Aug 07 19:12 | |
| Ariadne | DaemonFC: wouldn't know, i am just leasing it | Aug 07 19:13 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: well that used to be a thing people always had to watch out for | Aug 07 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | You can get really good fuel economy from a gasoline engine, but the politicians have skipped over this. | Aug 07 19:13 |
| Ariadne | yeah and then IPs started being scrambled | Aug 07 19:13 |
| CrystalMath | now that the internet no longer consists of true peers | Aug 07 19:13 |
| CrystalMath | this is no longer anything | Aug 07 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | Instead, they're doing The Return of Solyndra with Tesla. | Aug 07 19:13 |
| Ariadne | gas engines dont give me instant torque | Aug 07 19:13 |
| Ariadne | i didn't get an EV because i wanted to save the environment, i got an EV because i wanted to be able to merge into traffic with confidence | Aug 07 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | I can do that with my 2003 Impala. | Aug 07 19:15 |
| Ariadne | not like you can in a tesla :D | Aug 07 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | There was a jerk in a Tesla that tried to get around me the other day. | Aug 07 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | It didn't end well for him. | Aug 07 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | I saw what he was doing, so I got beside a semi in the left lane and did a rolling roadblock with the Tesla guy stuck behind me. | Aug 07 19:16 |
| Ariadne | in Oklahoma, you would get a $450 ticket for that :) | Aug 07 19:16 |
| CrystalMath | DaemonFC: well i always appreciate every victory of older technology | Aug 07 19:16 |
| CrystalMath | so great work | Aug 07 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | Meh, it's not Oklahoma. | Aug 07 19:16 |
| Ariadne | there are cameras | Aug 07 19:16 |
| Ariadne | every half mile | Aug 07 19:17 |
| Ariadne | if you impede the passing lane, a trooper will pop out of nowhere and get you | Aug 07 19:17 |
| Ariadne | especially if you're a trucker :D | Aug 07 19:17 |
| DaemonFC | He pulled out of me at Dunkin Donuts on US 41. | Aug 07 19:17 |
| DaemonFC | Then almost caused an accident. | Aug 07 19:17 |
| DaemonFC | So I pulled into the left lane, floored it, and then trapped him at 50 miles an hour behind me for about 10 miles or so. | Aug 07 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | *in front of me | Aug 07 19:18 |
| CrystalMath | DaemonFC: i hate that guy too, but because he was driving a newer car than yours, regardless of the engine type | Aug 07 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | The Impala has been handling a lot better lately. Although I suppose it should. | Aug 07 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | Almost the entire front suspension is new at this point. | Aug 07 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | Along with much of the engine. | Aug 07 19:19 |
| CrystalMath | new = bad, old = good | Aug 07 19:19 |
| CrystalMath | but of course if it was an 80s car that did that to you my opinion would be the reverse | Aug 07 19:20 |
| CrystalMath | :P | Aug 07 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois only lets you claim so much as a car equity exemption in bankruptcy. | Aug 07 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | So it made more sense to repair a car that the trustee couldn't value at enough to bother taking than to get a newer car. | Aug 07 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | Now that it runs fine, why get rid of it? | Aug 07 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | brb | Aug 07 19:22 |
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| techrights-news | KDE Kicks Off August With Many Bug Fixes To Benefit Steam Deck & More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154255#comment-30485 | Aug 07 19:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: Stability | Tux Machines | Aug 07 19:27 | |
| techrights-news | DRM Lease Protocol Support Merged For #Wayland For VR Headsets - Phoronix โ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Wayland-DRM-Lease-Merged ไท #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux ๐ง | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/07/#latest | Aug 07 19:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DRM Lease Protocol Support Merged For Wayland For VR Headsets - Phoronix | Aug 07 19:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Aug 07 19:33 | |
| techrights-news | #AMD Prepares More Graphics Driver Code For Linux 5.15 - Phoronix โ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.15-More-AMDGPU ไท #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux ๐ง | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/07/#latest | Aug 07 19:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD Prepares More Graphics Driver Code For Linux 5.15 - Phoronix | Aug 07 19:34 | |
| techrights-news | Valve to make avail EVERY WINDOWS GAME on Deck before December โ https://asktogrow.com/linux/valve-to-make-avail-every-windows-game-on-deck-before-december/ ไท #asktogrow | Aug 07 19:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve to make avail EVERY WINDOWS GAME on Deck before December โ Open Source & Linux News, Business Ideas & Much more at one place - Asktogrow.com | Aug 07 19:37 | |
| techrights-news | Todayโs #HowTos | #UNIX โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154264 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 07 19:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Aug 07 19:38 | |
| techrights-news | #Graphics: AMDGPU, Wayland, Gallium3D โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154265 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 07 19:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: AMDGPU, Wayland, Gallium3D | Tux Machines | Aug 07 19:39 | |
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| techrights-news | #Security Leftovers โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154266 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 07 19:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Aug 07 19:46 | |
| techrights-news | #china still remembers #opiumWars https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/04/china_gaming_spiritual_opium/ | Aug 07 19:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Chinese state media describes gaming as 'spiritual opium' that stunts education and destroys families โข The Register | Aug 07 19:48 | |
| gustaf | I was prepared to give Lee the benefit of the doubt | Aug 07 19:48 |
| gustaf | then he / nirvana booted us from our channel ;) | Aug 07 19:49 |
| techrights-news | #Germany health professionals will communicate with each other through the open source Matrix protocol โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154267 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 07 19:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | German health professionals will communicate with each other through the open source Matrix protocol | Tux Machines | Aug 07 19:50 | |
| schestowitz-TR | gustaf: which channel? | Aug 07 19:51 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: gustaf means the Libera topic mention channel kick-off. | Aug 07 19:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | the whole thing is sad to me, for the following reasons | Aug 07 19:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: yes, that was the moment I switched sides so to speak | Aug 07 19:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I confronted Lee over it | Aug 07 19:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | he said he would explain | Aug 07 19:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I waited | Aug 07 19:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then there was a non-apology in freenode.net | Aug 07 19:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | he has kids and debt | Aug 07 19:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | these situations often lead to chronic addictional, irrational flippant moves, divorce etc. | Aug 07 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | he didn't start as mean-spirited | Aug 07 19:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and he tried to be all polite and professional | Aug 07 19:53 |
| techrights-news | #Games: Jupiter Hell, Deck, and More โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154268 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 07 19:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Jupiter Hell, Deck, and More | Tux Machines | Aug 07 19:54 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: And just a tad bit passive-aggressive. | Aug 07 19:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | tempered maybe | Aug 07 19:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | but we cannot see other factors | Aug 07 19:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | like pressure from his bosses at Kape | Aug 07 19:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | and lenders | Aug 07 19:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | and wife etc. | Aug 07 19:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | even his brother might be seeing him as a liability, but shells.com provided hosting, so I assume he is understnding and supportive | Aug 07 19:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | nirvana is, iirc, a worker of alex | Aug 07 19:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need to take emotional factors into account | Aug 07 19:56 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Is nirvana Kevin? | Aug 07 19:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | it didn't start so combative | Aug 07 19:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | and when I got involved tomaw and lee were still negotiation | Aug 07 19:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | *in | Aug 07 19:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | looking for an amicable resolution of some kind, in private | Aug 07 19:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: I think so | Aug 07 19:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | Ariadne would know the name, maybe Shane? | Aug 07 19:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | at this point, the freenode association is likely a liability to shells | Aug 07 19:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | as reputation by proxy is a thing | Aug 07 19:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | kape, pia, freenode | Aug 07 19:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | the odour spreads | Aug 07 19:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | karpeles | Aug 07 19:58 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's definitely a liability. | Aug 07 19:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | freenode wants your channels | Aug 07 19:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | shells wants your data | Aug 07 19:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | like, desktop, virtually | Aug 07 19:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you need trust | Aug 07 19:59 |
| XRevan86 | Shellsโข got a lot of bad press over investing into something that wasn't ever going to help them make money directly. | Aug 07 20:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | if shells is run by someone who breaks things every week, you would not start paying for subscriptions | Aug 07 20:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | daemonfs says pira starting rouiting through some dodgy entiry | Aug 07 20:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | *entity | Aug 07 20:00 |
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| MinceR | i think illibera is not "ok" and won't be "ok" until they get rid of the IBM puppets | Aug 07 20:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: it's a false dichtony, I think | Aug 07 20:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | freenode-old, freenode-new, LC | Aug 07 20:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | OFTC, I was told, has overlaps | Aug 07 20:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I lost track of which names | Aug 07 20:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was told which members of staff | Aug 07 20:01 |
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| schestowitz-TR | if you don't trust fedora, will you trust ubuntu? | Aug 07 20:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | fedora: wayland, gnu, linux, gnome | Aug 07 20:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | ubuntu: soon wayland, gnu, linux, gnome | Aug 07 20:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | ubuntu usually a little behind with versions | Aug 07 20:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | alpine: linux, busybox, lxd etc. | Aug 07 20:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, openbsd doesn't even come with x or anything | Aug 07 20:03 |
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| AdmFubar | https://hackaday.com/2021/08/06/retro-computers-from-paper/ | Aug 07 20:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Retro Computers From Paper | Hackaday | Aug 07 20:08 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | AdmFubar: 0/ | Aug 07 20:15 |
| techrights-news | #Tor, Programming, and Modding Leftovers โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154269 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 07 20:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tor, Programming, and Modding Leftovers | Tux Machines | Aug 07 20:16 | |
| techrights-news | Todayโs ๐ ฃ๐ ค๐ ง ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ข Leftovers โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154270 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 07 20:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Aug 07 20:17 | |
| MinceR | 07 200552 < Ariadne> its fascinating to see how everyone who has intersected rasengan has been sent on a self-destructive trajectory, and also sad | Aug 07 20:17 |
| MinceR | well, rasengan is something like an attack spell | Aug 07 20:18 |
| kingoffrance | considering how many old games had poor english translations, that sounds plausible :D | Aug 07 20:19 |
| kingoffrance | that would totally be a name of a spell | Aug 07 20:19 |
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| schestowitz-TR | seems like freenode was acui-hired | Aug 07 20:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | hire the owner | Aug 07 20:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | call that a buyout | Aug 07 20:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of companies do it | Aug 07 20:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | they make up some fake or fictional sale price | Aug 07 20:20 |
| XRevan86 | omae wa moe, fleenoderu | Aug 07 20:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | they 'pay' with "shares" | Aug 07 20:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | based on bogus values, share buybacks etc. | Aug 07 20:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and debt | Aug 07 20:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and the staff just moves over | Aug 07 20:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | i.e. hired | Aug 07 20:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the case of hololens microsoft just fired all the stuff | Aug 07 20:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe they just wanted the patents and name | Aug 07 20:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | not even any of the staff | Aug 07 20:21 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 07 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | *staff | Aug 07 20:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | later pentagon biden gave them bailout money | Aug 07 20:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | $22,000,000,000 | Aug 07 20:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | "military" | Aug 07 20:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | for "hololens" | Aug 07 20:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | whose whole staff was fired | Aug 07 20:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | veryy suspicious | Aug 07 20:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | Trump also bailed out Microsoft, several times | Aug 07 20:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | the later times, e.g. JEDI, it didn't "take" | Aug 07 20:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | when cheeto left office the contract was ripped apart | Aug 07 20:24 |
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| techrights-news | Links 7/8/2021: Latte Dock 0.10, Godot 3.4 beta 3, Krita 4.4.7 โข ๐ป๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2021/08/07/godot-3-4-beta-3/ ไท #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | โพ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/07/godot-3-4-beta-3/ | Aug 07 20:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 7/8/2021: Latte Dock 0.10, Godot 3.4 beta 3, Krita 4.4.7 | Techrights | Aug 07 20:24 | |
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| MinceR | (cat) (audio:unimportant) https://i.imgur.com/jSL34K1.mp4 | Aug 07 20:32 |
| techrights-news | What we learned from Hands On w/ the #SteamDeck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmpogZT7q74 #archlinux #gnu #linux #games | Aug 07 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What we learned from Hands On w/ the Steam Deck - YouTube | Aug 07 20:34 | |
| techrights-news | "Today, we're going to go to a very happy place: the time when I started using desktop Linux, and why I fell in love with it. So grab a cup of tea, or coffee if you're THAT sort of person, wrap yourself in a cozy blanket, and close your eyes, because it's story time!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc5v6gxvQ2g | Aug 07 20:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The ONE REASON why I fell in LOVE with LINUX (and a lot of other reasons) - YouTube | Aug 07 20:35 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: no punchline! | Aug 07 20:36 |
| MinceR | you don't always have to have a punchline | Aug 07 20:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | kitty scratching | Aug 07 20:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | won't use the p word | Aug 07 20:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, we consider getting bunnies | Aug 07 20:37 |
| MinceR | https://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/joke-he-goes-to-get-her-punch-and-there-is-no-punchline.jpg | Aug 07 20:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | but thought about it for weeks, not sure yet | Aug 07 20:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | cats are too bossy | Aug 07 20:37 |
| MinceR | depends on the ct | Aug 07 20:37 |
| MinceR | s/ct/cat/ | Aug 07 20:37 |
| MinceR | also, cats don't shit everywhere :> | Aug 07 20:38 |
| techrights-news | Seems the #Valve #SteamDeck has been impressing people with some hands-on time | GamingOnLinux โ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/seems-the-valve-steam-deck-has-been-impressing-people-with-some-hands-on-time ไท #GamingOnLinux | Aug 07 20:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Seems the Valve Steam Deck has been impressing people with some hands-on time | GamingOnLinux | Aug 07 20:39 | |
| techrights-news | " #Apple has announced that it will start scanning your personal files on your devices for "Child Sexual Abuse Material", as identified by its cryptographic hash." http://web.elastic.org/~fche/blog4/posts/hash_attack/ | Aug 07 20:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.elastic.org | hash attack | Aug 07 20:43 | |
| techrights-news | Those cryptographic hashes are how #billgates engineer got caught with child rape photos including http://techrights.org/2020/08/21/zoophilia-gates-estate/ | Aug 07 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Melinda and Zoophilia Found in Tandem in the Illegal Pornographic โStashโ of Bill Gatesโ Engineer | Techrights | Aug 07 20:44 | |
| techrights-news | HEY HI acceleration = #marketing bullcrap. https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/02/google_pixel_6_tensor/ | Aug 07 20:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Google says Pixel 6, 6 Pro coming this year with custom AI acceleration โข The Register | Aug 07 20:45 | |
| Ariadne | ok now i can push a button and my frunk opens itself how cool | Aug 07 20:47 |
| Ariadne | itโs like 45c outside so i think my day is over man | Aug 07 20:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | 45?? | Aug 07 20:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | I can barely fuction at 28 | Aug 07 20:48 |
| techrights-news | #HP EliteBook 840 G7 with openSUSE Continued โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154271 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 07 20:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HP EliteBook 840 G7 with openSUSE Continued | Tux Machines | Aug 07 20:50 | |
| techrights-news | Itโs Time for #Ubuntu to Opt for a Hybrid Rolling Release Model โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154272 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 07 20:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Itโs Time for Ubuntu to Opt for a Hybrid Rolling Release Model | Tux Machines | Aug 07 20:50 | |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 07 20:50 |
| MinceR | yeah, i'm sure the only problem with ubunturd was the release model | Aug 07 20:51 |
| techrights-news | What happened to Opensource.com h No material left? Recently it has been posting howtos that aren't unique or really different from those composed in the 1990s, maybe even 80s. By "Linux terminal" they mean #GNU | Aug 07 20:52 |
| techrights-news | #KDE is All About the Apps, an #Akademy 2021 recap - TheBlindCow โ https://www.proli.net/2021/08/07/kde-is-all-about-the-apps-an-akademy-2021-recap/ ไท #proli | Aug 07 20:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.proli.net | KDE is All About the Apps, an Akademy 2021 recap โ TheBlindCow | Aug 07 20:53 | |
| MinceR | https://www.oglaf.com/likely-stories/ | Aug 07 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.oglaf.com | likely stories | Aug 07 20:54 | |
| techrights-news | You know it's a "suit" (of #ibm in this case) when you see terms like "Digital Economy"... https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/08/the-evolution-of-shopping-in-the-digital-economy.html | Aug 07 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.irvingwb.com | Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Evolution of Shopping in the Digital Economy | Aug 07 20:54 | |
| MinceR | "#KDE is All About the Apps" -- translation: we understand now that we've fucked up our desktop environment and we have no idea how to fix it | Aug 07 20:54 |
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| techrights-news | samcv: I am resigning from The Perl Foundation https://cry.nu/perl/perl-foundation-resignation/ #perl #programming | Aug 07 20:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cry.nu | I am resigning from The Perl Foundation | Aug 07 20:56 | |
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| techrights-news | #perl needs to #deletegithub and so should these people https://twitter.com/SamanthaMcVey/status/1423949270210732032 #github = #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware prison + racism: http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/github-is-racism/ | Aug 07 20:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SamanthaMcVey: I am resigning as Chair of the Community Affair Team (Code of Conduct team) of The #Perl Foundation, effective immeโฆ https://t.co/OBYMzScfn8 | Aug 07 20:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SamanthaMcVey: I am resigning as Chair of the Community Affair Team (Code of Conduct team) of The #Perl Foundation, effective immeโฆ https://t.co/OBYMzScfn8 | Aug 07 20:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GitHub is Racism | Techrights | Aug 07 20:58 | |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: no, the desktop is OK now | Aug 07 20:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | what version did you last try from kde? | Aug 07 20:59 |
| MinceR | 4.3 | Aug 07 21:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | for me, it works a lot better than kde 3.5.x | Aug 07 21:00 |
| MinceR | the "we finally fixed 4.x" version | Aug 07 21:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: try the latest | Aug 07 21:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's stable and good and has all the features | Aug 07 21:00 |
| MinceR | then 5.x was announced with systemd support | Aug 07 21:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | gentoo has it w/o systemd | Aug 07 21:00 |
| MinceR | i'm good with fvwm and tint2 | Aug 07 21:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | you beat me to it re systemd | Aug 07 21:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: ok, fair enough | Aug 07 21:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | but kde 4.3 cannot be compared to 5.23 | Aug 07 21:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | they're also like a decade apart, I think | Aug 07 21:01 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Here's my reply to NBC Chicago's post about the $2,000 a month stimulus proposal. | Aug 07 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | "You can give every American $2,000 a month, but don't say I didn't warn you when steak is $300 a pound and a 1 bedroom apartment is $5,000 a month in the ghetto 12 months in. As soon as they know you have it, the businesses and the landlords will move in and they'll take all of it. | Aug 07 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | " | Aug 07 21:03 |
| DaemonFC | They always have before, but the reason why it's been 2-3% on a typical year is that's about how much the wages tend to go up. | Aug 07 21:04 |
| MinceR | the Precursor looks promising, except it needs more ram and storage to run a free unix :> | Aug 07 21:05 |
| Ariadne | MinceR: you know, if you like free software and no-systemd, there is always alpine :p | Aug 07 21:05 |
| MinceR | yeah, there's an alpine derivative on my pinephone | Aug 07 21:06 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโโโโโโโ โโโโโโ โโโโ โโโโ โ โโ โโ โโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 32.11 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 31.23โ swarm size (avg): 278.01 โฒ | Aug 07 21:06 |
| MinceR | but i don't really trust the future of Linux so i'm trying to build skills and practices with some other free unix ernel | Aug 07 21:06 |
| MinceR | s/ern/kern/ | Aug 07 21:06 |
| DaemonFC | Ariadne, I just don't want a car that runs non-Free software in a meaningful sense of the word. | Aug 07 21:09 |
| Ariadne | better get rid of your 2003 Impala then | Aug 07 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, The Impala sort of does, but it more closely resembles RMS saying that's fine if it functions more like a circuit than software. | Aug 07 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | About the only thing it can do is manage how the engine runs and report trouble codes using a standardized format. | Aug 07 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody knows what the Tesla does and it gets OTA "upgrades" like Windows 10. | Aug 07 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | Even worse, it has another non-Free computer that interacts with the user and won't always get upgrades, rendering it essentially useless someday. | Aug 07 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | The ECM on the Impala doesn't change, doesn't do OTA "upgrades" that might do something bad, and doesn't really care what year it is, and doesn't "talk" to me except to say if something's not working right. | Aug 07 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | The very worst thing that happens if you remove power from it and then power is restored, is it forgets your radio settings. | Aug 07 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | Unlike BMWs, which forget how to roll the windows up and down unless you pay the dealer to reprogram it. | Aug 07 21:12 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 07 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | "Hmm, down, up, down, up....I can totally see why the fucking Germans put this in volatile RAM." | Aug 07 21:13 |
| MinceR | hey, it was cheaper for them | Aug 07 21:13 |
| DaemonFC | How is that cheaper? | Aug 07 21:14 |
| MinceR | just like all the fragile plastic under the hood | Aug 07 21:14 |
| DaemonFC | The Impala has some of that (intakes), but you can get at them without taking half the car apart and 7 hours of labor. | Aug 07 21:14 |
| MinceR | afaik DRAM is cheaper than flash EEPROM per bit | Aug 07 21:14 |
| MinceR | presumably the bit of plastic the alleged engine blows a flame at to set the whole alleged car on fire was also a cheap solution for something | Aug 07 21:15 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2021/08/06/video-a-short-documentary-on-the-infamous-cleveland-clinic-x-ray-fire-disaster-of-1929 | Aug 07 21:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.clevescene.com | Video: A Short Documentary on the Infamous Cleveland Clinic X-Ray Fire Disaster of 1929 | Scene and Heard: Scene's News Blog | Aug 07 21:18 | |
| DaemonFC | Amazon to require masks for all warehouse workers. | Aug 07 21:50 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently they needed to call more ambulances for people collapsing in the August sun. | Aug 07 21:50 |
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| DaemonFC | Ariadne, So, I continued my Geico quote just for the hell of it. | Aug 07 21:57 |
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| DaemonFC | Previously they said they wanted $466 for a 6 month term, but changing "Not currently insured because I didn't need it." to "Yes I have insurance" brought the 6 month paid in full quote from $466 to $370. | Aug 07 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | Since MetroMile lets you cancel anytime you want, I could theoretically do so right now and start Geico the next day and I wouldn't have done anything wrong. | Aug 07 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | Geico's "drive easy" program says it gathers data on weather so they can ding you for driving in bad weather too,. | Aug 07 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Aug 07 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | It sounds like there's going to be so many savings you'll get tired of all the savings. | Aug 07 22:07 |
| MinceR | By Grabthar's Hammer, what a savings! | Aug 07 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | I played Richard III. There were five curtain calls. I was an actor once, damn it. Now look at me. Look at me! I wonโt go out there and say that stupid line one more time. | Aug 07 22:13 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 07 22:13 |
| *activelow sighs | Aug 07 22:14 | |
| activelow | webkit-gtk fails | Aug 07 22:14 |
| MinceR | what a surprising thing for a combination of gtk and webkit to do :> | Aug 07 22:14 |
| DaemonFC | HAH! | Aug 07 22:15 |
| activelow | was hoping for a replacement to kick out mozilla | Aug 07 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | Browse site. Wait for it to crash. File bug. | Aug 07 22:15 |
| DaemonFC | Repeat. | Aug 07 22:15 |
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| activelow | the compilation fails, it simply gets stuck repeatedly | Aug 07 22:16 |
| activelow | without error message | Aug 07 22:16 |
| activelow | tried twice last nicht, stuck for hours, distcc/g++ hit 100% cpu, and then nothing | Aug 07 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | Alan Rickman will be missed. | Aug 07 22:16 |
| MinceR | indeed | Aug 07 22:17 |
| activelow | it is a drama, really, because i am left with an old mozilla, with javascript regularly crashing, and no other alternative (except netsurf, or gemini) | Aug 07 22:17 |
| activelow | this is the status of free/open web browsers | Aug 07 22:18 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Mom appreciates my sense of humor sometimes. Rarely. | Aug 07 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | She was talking about how a resident had gone completely crazy once (no names obviously, so I have no idea who she was referring to), this was years ago. | Aug 07 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | Then died. | Aug 07 22:22 |
| DaemonFC | I said, "Blessed Silence?". | Aug 07 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | It's a religious place, so it seemed fitting. | Aug 07 22:23 |
| DaemonFC | I have overly sensitive hearing and always have. I have to sleep with earplugs even when we don't have bad neighbors just to muffle the bumps and normal refrigerator noises and stuff. | Aug 07 22:24 |
| activelow | anyway, this means i cannot offer any distribution anymore with a web-browser suitable for youtube and other "next level of shit" | Aug 07 22:26 |
| activelow | a web browser which i consider free/open | Aug 07 22:27 |
| MinceR | is webkit acceptable but not blink? | Aug 07 22:28 |
| activelow | not easily answered: the browser engine (rendering, javascript) needs to be distinguished from the final bundle | Aug 07 22:29 |
| activelow | webkit (apple) is used by epiphany or midori, which are not available currently | Aug 07 22:30 |
| activelow | then, another option is chromium (and rebranded variants), which i am not at least willing to review anymore, given the size of the source bundle | Aug 07 22:30 |
| MinceR | i guess a free version/fork of qt5 is also out | Aug 07 22:31 |
| activelow | yes, there is another option: qt/webengine, although qt5 with it's dependency graph is hitting dbus/systemd rather often, which means i got qt5 but none of the kde stuff | Aug 07 22:32 |
| activelow | which excluded some other browser options | Aug 07 22:33 |
| activelow | Blink is chromium, i am not willing to download the sources anymore, since this is 1.5GiB of disk space every few days with another update of some more shit | Aug 07 22:33 |
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| activelow | so, i am stuck with an old mozilla version which has various problems. i mean i can keep this for some more month, or maybe even years, but it is dead end already. | Aug 07 22:35 |
| activelow | i will not accept rust language and llvm/clang | Aug 07 22:35 |
| activelow | if a viable compiler alternative for aarch64 existed, then i would invest all my time into kicking gcc and c++, and not look back anymore to what fsf/gnu/ibm are doing | Aug 07 22:38 |
| DaemonFC | Qt is an even bigger disaster than GTK lately. | Aug 07 22:56 |
| DaemonFC | The API is all over the place. The upstream is a troll that's completely hostile to having a usable open source edition. Then there's Chromium as a dependency whether that's even useful or not. Eww. | Aug 07 22:57 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโโโโโโโโโโ โโโโโโโ โโ โโ โ โโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 36.45 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโ โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 93.63โ swarm size (avg): 277.93 โฒ | Aug 07 23:06 |
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| DaemonFC | One thing that struck me about Illinois is how many "psychics" there are here. | Aug 07 23:19 |
| DaemonFC | Wonder if they saw this coming, or won the lottery recently. | Aug 07 23:20 |
| activelow | QT == c++ | Aug 07 23:26 |
| activelow | didn't verify yet if gtk3 is locked into c++ too, chances are it is not, not yet | Aug 07 23:27 |
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| activelow | if my mood wasn't bad enough already, currently the city is terrorized again, by some arab/turk/lebanese gangs speeding with their cars | Aug 07 23:28 |
| activelow | even if speed is limited to 30Km/h they take the chance to go full throttle | Aug 07 23:30 |
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| XRevan86 | activelow: GTK is GLib-based, on C99+. | Aug 07 23:46 |
| XRevan86 | And it will never go the C++ route. | Aug 07 23:47 |
| XRevan86 | Instead it went the GObject Introspection route, with strong bindings for a lot of languages. + Vala. | Aug 07 23:48 |
| activelow | XRevan86: some background to this, with gentoo i have full control over various features, including introspection which is fully disabled too, and retained GTK3 | Aug 07 23:49 |
| activelow | Vala can be removed entirely too | Aug 07 23:51 |
| activelow | to verify the GTK dependency graph there is only one way to do it: use a GCC with c++ support removed and compile a release including gtk/X11 and see what remains | Aug 07 23:57 |
| activelow | since indirect dependency could exist which breaks the tree | Aug 07 23:58 |
| activelow | and, it is not worth the effort yet if i cannot be sure any GCC alternative (excluding clang/llvm) suffices: pcc/tcc/or any other | Aug 07 23:59 |
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