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techrights-bot#Mesa 's R600 Driver Nears Feature Complete NIR Support For #Radeon HD 5000/6000 Series - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=R600g-NIR-Nears-Feature-Comp •●• #Phoronix #Kernel #LinuxJan 21 00:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mesa's R600 Driver Nears Feature Complete NIR Support For Radeon HD 5000/6000 Series - PhoronixJan 21 00:00
techrights-bot#rustlang is so deep in #microsoft pockets that it now defines all its people in terms of their Microsoft accounts, #ProprietarySoftware logins https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2021/01/19/changes-to-rustdoc-team.html #deletegtihubJan 21 00:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.rust-lang.org | Changes to the Rustdoc team | Inside Rust BlogJan 21 00:03
vZS1_2Boards like this one are good for hosting something like a WordPress blog: https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-n2-with-4gbyte-ram-2/Jan 21 00:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hardkernel.com | ODROID-N2+ with 4GByte RAM – ODROIDJan 21 00:05
techrights-bot#Spreadsheet annoyance no. 3: quotes have priority https://www.datafix.com.au/BASHing/2021-01-20.htmlJan 21 00:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datafix.com.au | Spreadsheet annoyance no. 3: quotes have priorityJan 21 00:05
vZS1_2You could easily run an email server off that as well.Jan 21 00:06
vZS1_24GB RAM is a lotJan 21 00:06
vZS1_2ODOROID seem to offer better value for their boards, compared to Rpi.Jan 21 00:07
techrights-botThe @Brave Browser Adds Native Support for Decentralized #IPFS Protocol • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146689 •●• #freesw #internetJan 21 00:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Brave Browser Adds Native Support for Decentralized IPFS Protocol | Tux MachinesJan 21 00:07
vZS1_2We need more SBCs and less Clown.Jan 21 00:07
techrights-bot#GraalVM 21.0 Released With Experimental #JVM On Truffle - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GraalVM-21.0-Released •●• #Phoronix #java #oracleJan 21 00:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GraalVM 21.0 Released With Experimental JVM On Truffle - PhoronixJan 21 00:09
techrights-bot#debian #gnu #linux hosting: "FOSSHOST provides us a VPS instance which is located at OSU Open Source Lab. It improves a lack of enough server resources then service availability especially." https://kenhys.hatenablog.jp/entry/2021/01/20/113651Jan 21 00:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kenhys.hatenablog.jp | fabre.debian.net is sponsored by FOSSHOST - ひとりしずかに。Jan 21 00:09
schestowitz__vZS1_2: and less BTJan 21 00:09
schestowitz__or less congestionJan 21 00:10
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schestowitz__or more infraJan 21 00:10
vZS1_2The infra is there. It's being hogged for "national security"Jan 21 00:10
vZS1_2And discriminatory serviceJan 21 00:10
vZS1_2Otherwise you wouldn't have good internet connection some daysJan 21 00:11
techrights-botRed Hat's explanation for making #RHEL 'free' http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146676#comment-27874Jan 21 00:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS is gone—but RHEL is now free for up to 16 production servers | Tux MachinesJan 21 00:12
MinceR"Hell is other people."Jan 21 00:12
vZS1_2They can't get people to pay for it so now they give it away for freeJan 21 00:12
vZS1_2RHEL will crumble just like Windows server didJan 21 00:13
techrights-botHow to make #dbus itself more #ProprietarySoftware based with hosting on hostile #microsoft servers #deletegithub https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Dbus-Broker-26Jan 21 00:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dbus-Broker 26 Released For High Performance D-Bus - PhoronixJan 21 00:13
vZS1_2The real danger is Red Hat's influence over GNU/Linux.Jan 21 00:13
schestowitz__yeahJan 21 00:14
schestowitz__it already isJan 21 00:14
schestowitz__centos used to be dominant iircJan 21 00:14
vZS1_2They don't even know how to program systems. It's just money and politicsJan 21 00:14
schestowitz__then debian and ubuntu etc.Jan 21 00:14
vZS1_2Back before Linus was castrated, he called out the shit quality of dbus.Jan 21 00:14
vZS1_2systemd is just as badJan 21 00:15
techrights-bot"Clown" means remote control and surveillance. You don't need any such robots. It's marketing hype. https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/01/20/valetudo-is-a-cloud-free-web-interface-for-robot-vacuum-cleaners/Jan 21 00:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Valetudo is a cloud-free web interface for robot vacuum cleanersJan 21 00:15
vZS1_2Red Hat made money because they knew more about GNU/Linux in the early days than most other commercial tech support people.Jan 21 00:16
vZS1_2So they were first-to-marketJan 21 00:16
vZS1_2They're not system architects.Jan 21 00:16
vZS1_2They're a bunch of passable sysadminsJan 21 00:16
techrights-botHow SUSE builds its Enterprise Linux distribution - PART 5 | SUSE Communities ⇨ https://www.suse.com/c/how-suse-builds-its-enterprise-linux-distribution-part-5/ •●• #suse #gnu #linux #freeswJan 21 00:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How SUSE builds its Enterprise Linux distribution - PART 5 | SUSE CommunitiesJan 21 00:17
vZS1_2And these days, not even that. The Red Hat website is full of shallow cruft.Jan 21 00:17
vZS1_2Things anyone with more than a few weeks of GNU/Linux experience should already know.Jan 21 00:18
techrights-botOpen Sesame: How #FreeSW technologies turbocharge enterprises ⇨ https://www.dqindia.com/open-sesame-open-source-technologies-turbocharge-enterprises/ •●• #dqindiaJan 21 00:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dqindia.com | Open Sesame: How Open Source technologies turbocharge enterprisesJan 21 00:18
vZS1_2There are far better GNU/Linux distributions out there than Red Hat's productsJan 21 00:18
techrights-botThis is not a "Linux" issue and it's nothing to do even with stuff that's installed on top of Linux, unless a negligent system administrator is lousy at patching https://www.techradar.com/news/dangerous-new-malware-targets-unpatched-linux-machinesJan 21 00:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dangerous new malware targets unpatched Linux machines | TechRadarJan 21 00:19
vZS1_2It's good to see Red Hat pursue the Kubernetes bandwagon though. Bloated shit that creates fake work.Jan 21 00:21
techrights-botThey always love talking about "Clown Computing" instead of #servers (which is what they really allude to) https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/01/20/2161483/0/en/BeyondTrust-Privilege-Management-for-Unix-Linux-Grows-Q4-Revenue-83-YoY-by-Securing-Cloud-Infrastructure.htmlJan 21 00:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | BeyondTrust Privilege Management for Unix & Linux Grows Q4 Revenue 83% YoY by Securing Cloud InfrastructureJan 21 00:22
vZS1_2They're burning their capital. Let's hope they keep burning more.Jan 21 00:22
schestowitz__LOLJan 21 00:22
schestowitz__https://www.fool.ca/2021/01/19/tsx-2-ev-stocks-im-buying-to-be-on-the-same-path-as-elon-musk/Jan 21 00:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fool.ca | TSX: 2 EV Stocks I’m Buying to Be on the Same Path as Elon Musk - The Motley Fool CanadaJan 21 00:23
schestowitz__wanna be rich?Jan 21 00:23
schestowitz__Do thisJan 21 00:23
schestowitz__become cult idiotJan 21 00:23
vZS1_2They are too late. The $100 to $500 stock price for Tesla has already passed.Jan 21 00:23
schestowitz__and it based on nothingJan 21 00:23
schestowitz__pure hypeJan 21 00:23
schestowitz__pump and dumpJan 21 00:23
schestowitz__a company that loses moneyJan 21 00:23
vZS1_2Too late to even dump. It's overvalued now.Jan 21 00:24
schestowitz__and maybe for the first time did not lose moneyJan 21 00:24
vZS1_2Buying now is pure failJan 21 00:24
vZS1_2Because you're too lateJan 21 00:24
schestowitz__and who buys cars?Jan 21 00:24
schestowitz__esp. newJan 21 00:24
vZS1_2It's speculation. i.e., gambling.Jan 21 00:24
techrights-bot" #GIMP ( #GNU Image Manipulation Program) is a cross-platform tool for quality image creation and manipulation and advanced photo retouching." https://www.practicalecommerce.com/free-design-toolsJan 21 00:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.practicalecommerce.com | 17 Free Design Tools for 2021 | Practical EcommerceJan 21 00:25
techrights-bot#Archman 2021.01.20 out hours ago... #turkey has its own #gnu #linux distros.... and some are very impressive https://archman.org/Jan 21 00:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archman.org | Archman GNU/LinuxJan 21 00:26
vZS1_2Everyone buying Tesla stock now is only helping Tesla keep investor figures up to draw in more investors. Snowball effect.Jan 21 00:27
techrights-bot"The Linux Memory Management layer supports the very common technique of virtual memory. Linux splits blocks of virtual memory into areas specified by the c structure vm_area_struct." #linux #kernel #oracle https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/the-maple-treeJan 21 00:27
techrights-bot"My #GNOME #outreachy internship has definitely taught me a lot of things including writing blog posts, reporting tasks, expressing myself and of course improving as a developer." https://nasahnashdeveloper.wordpress.com/2021/01/18/my-journey-to-gjs-backtrace-full-option/Jan 21 00:27
vZS1_2Anyway. We went off topic.Jan 21 00:28
techrights-ipfs ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▅▆▇▅▇▆▅▅▅▄▅▅▆▇▅▅▅▅▄▅▆▃▅▄▅▅▅▄▃▄▆▇▃▄ avg(k/sec) 24.43 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▃▄▂▃▃▄▄▃▃▄▂▂▃▂▃▃▂▃▂▂▂▃▂▂▃▅▃▃▂▃▃▄▂ avg(k/sec) 11.06  ⟲Jan 21 00:29
vZS1_2All this bloatware like Kubernetes is only doing one thing. Feeding money to GIAFAM. You should stop wasting your time and money and invest it into actually learning how the operating system works.Jan 21 00:29
techrights-botInstall #RHEL 8.3 for free production use in a VM http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146676#comment-27875 #redhat #ibmJan 21 00:29
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techrights-botSensible integer scale for #Gonum Plot ⇨ https://fale.io/blog/2021/01/20/sensible-integer-scale-for-gonum-plot/ •●• #fale #gnu #linuxJan 21 00:30
schestowitz__vZS1_2: it came from GoogleJan 21 00:31
vZS1_2YeahJan 21 00:31
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TechrightsBot-trHello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77Jan 21 00:31
schestowitz__"came from above"Jan 21 00:31
schestowitz__the clownJan 21 00:31
vZS1_2It's yet more "fake work"Jan 21 00:31
schestowitz__clown hitlerJan 21 00:31
schestowitz__cheeto hitllllairJan 21 00:31
schestowitz__is cheeto golfing today?Jan 21 00:32
vZS1_2*shrug*Jan 21 00:32
schestowitz__maybe he'll get covid again and choke on a golf ballJan 21 00:32
MinceRone can hopeJan 21 00:32
schestowitz__for the ballJan 21 00:32
vZS1_2Right now, you have people using a dozen frameworks for running Nginx and a few daemons.Jan 21 00:33
schestowitz__not in alpineJan 21 00:33
schestowitz__Ariadne helps us move away from centos, gradually..Jan 21 00:33
schestowitz__btw, I've now figured out how to quickly turn ipfs on and offJan 21 00:33
vZS1_2Alpine isn't a part of the bloatware bandwagonJan 21 00:33
schestowitz__depending on what I doJan 21 00:33
schestowitz__until BT sorts its sh&& outJan 21 00:33
schestowitz__brb coffeeJan 21 00:34
vZS1_2Alpine benefited a lot from the Docker boom. Alpine images are light and easy to maintain.Jan 21 00:36
vZS1_2I used it quite a bit in a few projects a while agoJan 21 00:36
vZS1_2Because you don't have to deal with unessential daemons in your Alpine image, you can just use it as a template.Jan 21 00:39
vZS1_2So you can take a build-and-forget approach to each container.Jan 21 00:40
schestowitz__Ariadne is a key developer there, maybe you can go in Alpine's wayJan 21 00:41
schestowitz__Gentoo seems to be growing fastJan 21 00:42
vZS1_2Not what I'm looking for right nowJan 21 00:42
schestowitz__up almost 50% in terms of commits last yearJan 21 00:42
schestowitz__but someone wrote today he had left Sabayon.. someone whom I know personally... onlineJan 21 00:42
vZS1_2I'm looking for a GNU/Linux distro that is source-based.Jan 21 00:42
vZS1_2Gentoo is good for that. I don't want to spend much time on it.Jan 21 00:43
schestowitz__I know you like to inspect sourceJan 21 00:43
schestowitz__I am awareJan 21 00:43
schestowitz__for sec-oriented code it's essentialJan 21 00:43
schestowitz__because bugs there can be more than stability relatedJan 21 00:43
schestowitz__and those packages should be compactJan 21 00:43
schestowitz__except maybe front-end GUIsJan 21 00:43
schestowitz__provided the GUIs do are doing something saneJan 21 00:44
schestowitz__e.g. not cheating you by picking low entropy by designJan 21 00:44
schestowitz__so for users who use GUIs you need to learn the backend and callback interactions tooJan 21 00:44
MinceR(cat) (audio:relevant music) https://i.imgur.com/mg8NmzH.mp4Jan 21 00:44
vZS1_2I avoid GUIs altogether. If it doesn't have a CLI, I'm not interested.Jan 21 00:44
schestowitz__in vista10 the disk encryption gui connects to the clownJan 21 00:45
schestowitz__sending microsoft the private ketsJan 21 00:45
schestowitz__*kaysJan 21 00:45
schestowitz__for "backup"Jan 21 00:45
schestowitz__aka "national security'Jan 21 00:45
vZS1_2Spying and surveillance = "national security"Jan 21 00:45
vZS1_2My OS is my IDE so I don't need bullshit GUIsJan 21 00:46
schestowitz__MinceR: nice one..Jan 21 00:46
schestowitz__vZS1_2: I tried some IDEsJan 21 00:47
schestowitz__many half a dozen over the yearsJan 21 00:47
schestowitz__usually I left them rather than moved to themJan 21 00:47
schestowitz__they're a convenience fantasyJan 21 00:47
vZS1_2They aren't even convenientJan 21 00:47
schestowitz__if I want this level of granularity I'd install a "X DEV DISTRO"Jan 21 00:47
vZS1_2I can do much more with things like GNU GlobalJan 21 00:47
schestowitz__complete with everything relatedJan 21 00:47
vZS1_2And GNU Global isn't tied to a specific text-editor/GUIJan 21 00:48
vZS1_2Because I can do function/symbol discovery and stuff independentlyJan 21 00:48
vZS1_2Always modularJan 21 00:48
vZS1_2UNIX philosophyJan 21 00:48
vZS1_2So it's independent of my text editorJan 21 00:49
schestowitz__GNU Global?Jan 21 00:49
schestowitz__The global command?Jan 21 00:49
vZS1_2global(1)Jan 21 00:50
schestowitz__the one that applies the same to all files under a dir?Jan 21 00:50
schestowitz__I used that a lot in latexJan 21 00:50
schestowitz__to set up templates okJan 21 00:50
vZS1_2https://www.gnu.org/software/global/Jan 21 00:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | GNU Global source code tagging systemJan 21 00:50
schestowitz__Lots of examples here http://schestowitz.com/Research/resindex.htmJan 21 00:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Research IndexJan 21 00:51
vZS1_2Monolithic IDEs are a stinking pile of shitJan 21 00:51
schestowitz__vZS1_2: that's different thenJan 21 00:51
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vZS1_2They are just another form of lock-inJan 21 00:52
vZS1_2VSCODE will always only support what MSFT wants it toJan 21 00:52
vZS1_2Same for Oracle's IDEsJan 21 00:53
techrights-bot"The API key, combined with my ID and passphrase that allow your Chromium browser to access all these Google services are embedded in the binary – they are added during compilation. They are my key, and they are distributed and used with written permission from the Chromium team." https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/google-muzzles-all-chromium-browsers-on-15-march-2021/Jan 21 00:53
vZS1_2They're just another power-grab platformJan 21 00:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alien.slackbook.org | Google muzzles all Chromium browsers on15 March 2021 | Alien PasturesJan 21 00:54
techrights-bot#FLOSSWeekly 613: #EteSync and #Etebase - Tom Hacohen, EteSync and Etebase https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/613Jan 21 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-twit.tv | EteSync and EtebaseJan 21 00:55
techrights-botThe #Slashdot discussion about what #IBM did today (Western time/clock) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146676#comment-27876Jan 21 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS is gone—but RHEL is now free for up to 16 production servers | Tux MachinesJan 21 00:56
schestowitz__vZS1_2: not originallyJan 21 00:56
schestowitz__netbeans likely started with good intentionsJan 21 00:56
schestowitz__and it's always tempting to make an IDEJan 21 00:57
schestowitz__you start with an editor that suits your workflowJan 21 00:57
schestowitz__then you build additions to itJan 21 00:57
schestowitz__like the terminal side or some buttons with callbackJan 21 00:57
schestowitz__and you build a monsterJan 21 00:57
MinceRsounds like it's well past time people stopped using these google "services"Jan 21 00:57
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techrights-botThis is not a "Linux" issue and it's nothing to do even with stuff that's installed on top of (GNU/)Linux, unless a negligent system administrator is lousy at patching https://www.bankinfosecurity.com/freakout-botnet-targets-unpatched-linux-systems-a-15814Jan 21 00:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bankinfosecurity.com | 'FreakOut' Botnet Targets Unpatched Linux SystemsJan 21 00:58
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vZS1_2specific tools composed will always be leaps and bounds over any IDEJan 21 00:59
vZS1_2MinceR: Google shooting themselves in the foot. Enabling 3rd-party development is what gains you market share faster than anything else. That's why Android was such a big success.Jan 21 01:00
techrights-botThis solves nothing meaningful until #curl controls its own destiny and isn't requiring #microsoft accounts for #ProprietarySoftware https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/01/20/everything-curl-dev/ #deletegithubJan 21 01:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-everything.curl.dev | daniel.haxx.seJan 21 01:00
techrights-bot"Unlike discord, Matrix doesn't make you pay to use your own custom emotes or stickers, you just need to go and host them yourself. Luckily doing so is surprisignly [sic] easy and can be done for free." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz3H6KJTEI0Jan 21 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Adding Your Cringe Stickers To Matrix - YouTubeJan 21 01:01
MinceRvZS1_2: they probably believe they've gained enough and now it's time to start twisting people's arms to get them to switch to proprietary chromeJan 21 01:02
MinceRi hope they screw themselves with thisJan 21 01:02
MinceRlike all the others, they're parasites of the free software communityJan 21 01:02
vZS1_2>MinceR i hope they screw themselves with thisJan 21 01:03
vZS1_2SameJan 21 01:03
techrights-botAfter months of cessation #suse is back to shilling #sap #propaganda and #ProprietarySoftware https://www.suse.com/c/how-to-boost-operational-efficiency-across-all-your-sap-landscapes/ see http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/novell-suse-sap/Jan 21 01:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to boost operational efficiency across all your SAP landscapes | SUSE CommunitiesJan 21 01:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | SUSE Said It Was Becoming Independent But Instead It Became Like an ‘Asset’ of SAP (‘German Microsoft’), Which is Hostile Towards Free Software | TechrightsJan 21 01:04
vZS1_2This will drive more people towards alternatives like FailfoxJan 21 01:05
techrights-bot#HowTo install #Ubuntu #UnityRemix 20.10 - YouTube ⇨ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ogmVJjqlRk •●• #VideoJan 21 01:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to install Ubuntu Unity Remix 20.10 - YouTubeJan 21 01:05
MinceRmozilla is pretty good at driving people away from failfoxJan 21 01:05
vZS1_2You still need a "trusted browser" to log into certain websites.Jan 21 01:06
vZS1_2Your choices are Chrome/Edge, Opera, or Firefox.Jan 21 01:06
techrights-bot#linuxDotCom as #marketing #spam site of #linuxfoundation ... this one was filed under "LF Platinum Member Content"... i.e. pay us to buy links on the site https://www.linux.com/news/how-to-setup-wireguard-on-oracle-linux/Jan 21 01:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to setup WireGuard on Oracle Linux - Linux.comJan 21 01:06
techrights-bot"smaller companies like F(x)Tec, Planet Computers, Pine64, and Purism, which have developed phones with features like built-in keyboards, support for GNU/Linux distributions" https://liliputing.com/2021/01/if-lg-stops-making-smartphones-who-will-push-the-boundaries-with-weird-devices-like-the-lg-wing-and-lg-rollable.htmlJan 21 01:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-If LG stops making smartphones, who will push the boundaries with weird devices like the LG Wing and LG Rollable? - LiliputingJan 21 01:08
vZS1_2Google are already hostile to things like F-droidJan 21 01:09
vZS1_2They hate what they can't controlJan 21 01:09
techrights-bot#RockyLinux Making Progress Towards Their First Release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146676#comment-27877 #ibm #rhel #centosJan 21 01:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS is gone—but RHEL is now free for up to 16 production servers | Tux MachinesJan 21 01:10
MinceR21 020616 < vZS1_2> You still need a "trusted browser" to log into certain websites.Jan 21 01:13
MinceRyou can probably use a blink-based browser if you set it up to lie about the UserAgentJan 21 01:14
techrights-bot#ZimaBoard is a hackable single-board server http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/145441#comment-27878 #gnu #linuxJan 21 01:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ZimaBoard, a new Hackable Open Source Single Board Server | Tux MachinesJan 21 01:14
CrystalMathreally CentOS should never have agreed to being bought off by HatRedJan 21 01:15
MinceRneither should have deadianJan 21 01:15
MinceRyet here we areJan 21 01:15
techrights-botSupport for #Istio 1.7 ends on February 19th, 2021 https://istio.io/latest/news/support/announcing-1.7-eol/ #deletegithub #microsoft #ProprietarySoftwareJan 21 01:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-istio.io | Istio / Support for Istio 1.7 ends on February 19th, 2021Jan 21 01:16
techrights-bot"How do others program? I realized today that I've never actually seen it; in more than 30 years of coding, I've never really watched someone else write nontrivial code over a long period of time." http://blog.sesse.net/blog/tech/2021-01-20-19-57_how_others_program.htmlJan 21 01:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.sesse.net | Steinar H. GundersonJan 21 01:17
techrights-botWhy and #HowTo Use Optional in #Java | ⇨ http://knowledgebasement.com/why-and-how-to-use-optional-in-java/ •●• #knowledgebasement #programmingJan 21 01:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-knowledgebasement.com | Why and How to Use Optional in Java |Jan 21 01:19
techrights-bot"Software developers are highly sought-after tech professionals, and the demand for their skills is continually increasing." https://www.fosslife.org/what-software-developer #programming #freesw #codingJan 21 01:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | What Is a Software Developer?Jan 21 01:20
techrights-bot"Software developers are highly sought-after tech professionals, and the demand for their skills is continually increasing." https://www.fosslife.org/what-software-developer #programming #freesw #codingJan 21 01:20
techrights-botTo get a major boost, running #Windows apps [sic] on #GNU #Linux is what comes next http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146589#comment-27880Jan 21 01:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine Developers Are Working On A New Linux Kernel Sync API To Succeed ESYNC/FSYNC | Tux MachinesJan 21 01:27
techrights-bot#Vulkan #Wayland Compositors Are Nearing Reality - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Vulkan-Wayland-Compositor-Near •●• #Kernel #Linux #deletegithubJan 21 01:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vulkan Wayland Compositors Are Nearing Reality - PhoronixJan 21 01:28
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techrights-botLearn the main #GNU #Linux OS components ⇨ https://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/feature/Learn-the-main-Linux-OS-components •●• #searchdatacenterJan 21 01:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchdatacenter.techtarget.com | Learn the main Linux OS componentsJan 21 01:29
techrights-botToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146690 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 21 01:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJan 21 01:33
techrights-bot"Edge Computing" nonsense, marketing hype, and buzzwords https://www.iottechtrends.com/drone-technology-expand-edge-computing-potential/Jan 21 01:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iottechtrends.com | How Does Drone Technology Expand Edge Computing Potential? - IoT Tech TrendsJan 21 01:34
techrights-botArduino Blog - Homemade machine puts a new spin on winding yarn ⇨ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/01/20/homemade-machine-puts-a-new-spin-on-winding-yarn/ •●• #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #HackingJan 21 01:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Arduino Blog » Homemade machine puts a new spin on winding yarnJan 21 01:34
MinceRhttps://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/008/567/71d.jpg_largeJan 21 01:34
MinceRre "Edge Computing"Jan 21 01:35
Ariadne[17:36:23] <vZS1_2> Alpine benefited a lot from the Docker boom. Alpine images are light and easy to maintain.Jan 21 01:36
techrights-botDevices/Embedded/SBC Hardware With GNU/Linux on Top • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146691 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 21 01:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices/Embedded/SBC Hardware With GNU/Linux on Top | Tux MachinesJan 21 01:37
Ariadnethere's a lot of history here, but the docker and alpine deal actually predates docker.  i should write about it sometimeJan 21 01:38
XRevan86MinceR: https://youtu.be/BsONSJ0mWFc is this a good moment for some obscure music?Jan 21 01:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Thomas Anders - Living on the Edge - 1989 - YouTubeJan 21 01:38
MinceRprobablyJan 21 01:38
MinceRconsidering i'm listening to a C64 music (remix) compilation (which has been pulled from youtube already)Jan 21 01:39
techrights-bot"Linux in their sights for games too with all their recent games (Artifact, Underlords and Half-Life: Alyx) all having Linux builds, although Alyx is not directly mentioned on the store page for Linux it is available." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/valve-have-multiple-games-in-development-they-will-announce-says-gabe-newellJan 21 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve have multiple games in development they will announce says Gabe Newell | GamingOnLinuxJan 21 01:40
techrights-bot"You can buy #CivilizationVI with #GNU #Linux support" but it is #ProprietarySoftware https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/the-next-civilization-vi-dlc-for-the-new-frontier-pass-out-on-january-28Jan 21 01:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vietnam joins Civilization VI in the next DLC for the New Frontier Pass on January 28 | GamingOnLinuxJan 21 01:42
techrights-bot#FlashpeakSlimjet in #PCLinuxOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141761#comment-27881 #gnu #linuxJan 21 01:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS Review: This Classic Independent Linux Distribution is Definitely Worth a Look | Tux MachinesJan 21 01:43
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techrights-botOpen Hardware: #Arduino and Little Bee • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146692 •●• #openhardware #TuxMachinesJan 21 01:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware: Arduino and Little Bee | Tux MachinesJan 21 01:45
*XRevan86 wanted to burn postmarketOS with fire but Mobian is too big for the readily available 4G sd-card.Jan 21 01:46
MinceRget a bigger card? :>Jan 21 01:46
XRevan86MinceR: I don't have a clean one.Jan 21 01:47
MinceRbuy one? :>Jan 21 01:47
XRevan86Nah, I guess I'll use Jumpstart here.Jan 21 01:47
techrights-botThe Linux Setup – Leah Neukirchen, #VoidLinux • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146693 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 21 01:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Linux Setup – Leah Neukirchen, Void Linux | Tux MachinesJan 21 01:49
XRevan86* JumpDriveJan 21 01:49
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MinceRwarp driveJan 21 01:51
techrights-botBanon: License changes to #Elasticsearch and #Kibana http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146644#comment-27882 #freesw #licensingJan 21 01:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Not So Open Any More: Elasticsearch Relicensing and Implications for Open Source Search | Tux MachinesJan 21 01:51
techrights-bot#fedora (or #ibm #redhat ): we don't use #freesw but #adobe crap https://www.madelinepeck.com/blog/2021/1/20/january-blog-post-new-year-new-blogginJan 21 01:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.madelinepeck.com | January Blog Post (New Year New Bloggin!) — Madeline PeckJan 21 01:53
techrights-bot#Debian: Vendoring, #FOSSHOST and Freexian’s Debian LTS • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146694 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 21 01:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian: Vendoring, FOSSHOST and Freexian’s Debian LTS | Tux MachinesJan 21 01:58
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/SayNoToDadBod/status/1351715387465895936Jan 21 02:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SayNoToDadBod: @BreitbartNews DDG is a leftist org too https://t.co/ynmMrlH7S9 https://t.co/ykc839s323Jan 21 02:02
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XRevan86privacy abuser == leftist?Jan 21 02:07
XRevan86Well, that's some interesting stuff.Jan 21 02:08
techrights-botSoftware: #Istio , #VLC Media Player, #Deskreen and #Signal • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146696Jan 21 02:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Istio, VLC Media Player, Deskreen and Signal | Tux MachinesJan 21 02:08
techrights-bot#Security and Latest FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146695 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latestJan 21 02:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security and Latest FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) | Tux MachinesJan 21 02:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsJan 21 02:10
techrights-bot#Programming Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146697 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latestJan 21 02:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 21 02:13
techrights-bot#Google and #Mozilla Embrace More Restrictions • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146698 •●• #chromium #firefox #wwwJan 21 02:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google and Mozilla Embrace More Restrictions | Tux MachinesJan 21 02:16
techrights-bot#FreeSoftware Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146699 •●• #GNU #freeSWJan 21 02:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software Leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 21 02:18
techrights-botGNOME: #outreachy , #flexbox and restrictions • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146700 •●• #GNU #Linux #gnomeJan 21 02:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME: outreachy, flexbox and restrictions | Tux MachinesJan 21 02:22
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techrights-botLinux Kernel Space and Graphics: Linux Memory Management, #DbusBroker 26, #Vulkan #Wayland Compositors • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146701 •●• #Kernel #LinuxJan 21 02:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel Space and Graphics: Linux Memory Management, Dbus-Broker 26, Vulkan Wayland Compositors | Tux MachinesJan 21 02:26
techrights-botToday’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146702 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latestJan 21 02:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 21 02:28
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techrights-botLinks 21/1/2021: #Google Tightens the Screws on Chromium, #VideoLAN #VLC 3.0.12 • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/videolan-vlc-3-0-12/ •●• #TechrightsJan 21 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/1/2021: Google Tightens the Screws on Chromium, VideoLAN VLC 3.0.12 | TechrightsJan 21 02:32
schestowitz__XRevan86: to many on the right, left means tech and tech means leftJan 21 02:33
schestowitz__as if the trump supporters are "proudly neanderthals"Jan 21 02:34
MinceRthat's probably an insult to neanderthalsJan 21 02:34
schestowitz__it isJan 21 02:35
schestowitz__they didn't storm the CapitolJan 21 02:35
XRevan86schestowitz__: And they don't believe in G-d too!Jan 21 02:35
schestowitz__gnJan 21 02:35
XRevan86God nightJan 21 02:35
MinceRo/Jan 21 02:37
XRevan86MinceR: Technically that's racistJan 21 02:37
MinceRno, that's subspeciesistJan 21 02:37
MinceRHomo sapiens neanderthalensis is not a raceJan 21 02:37
XRevan86MinceR: I know, but that doesn't have a ring to it.Jan 21 02:37
MinceRtoo badJan 21 02:38
XRevan86And then there is fiction where mere space aliens are called races.Jan 21 02:39
XRevan86Like StarCraft and such.Jan 21 02:39
MinceRyet another way in which starcraft sucksJan 21 02:39
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XRevan86huh, how weirdJan 21 03:09
XRevan86Mobian has an additional repo which has only one branch: mobian ( http://repo.mobian-project.org/ )Jan 21 03:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-repo.mobian-project.org | Index of /Jan 21 03:09
XRevan86But in sources.list they put the Debian's repo with the bullseye codename.Jan 21 03:09
XRevan86Is it supposed to be like permanent testing or not? I can't tell.Jan 21 03:10
XRevan86Either way, it's clearly versts ahead of postmarketOS, because it doesn't epicly lag.Jan 21 03:14
MinceRdoes it lag lyrically? :>Jan 21 03:14
XRevan86it lags moderatelyJan 21 03:15
XRevan86like gtk3 naturally wouldJan 21 03:15
MinceR:>Jan 21 03:16
XRevan86animations in gtk3 are done through cairo, so a weak cpu will not be able to process them smoothlyJan 21 03:17
XRevan86Both Manjaro and Mobian bundle TelegramJan 21 03:19
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techrights-bot#Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, January 20, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintextJan 21 07:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin ArchivesJan 21 07:23
techrights-bot#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharingJan 21 07:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS IndexJan 21 07:24
techrights-bot"The '249 patent generally relates to protecting personal information using user authentication methods" = #swpats of #patentTrolls -- as usual. #ptab will dump it. You can get paid to help. https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/1/20/2500-for-peoplechart-prior-artJan 21 07:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | $2,500 for Peoplechart Prior Art — Unified PatentsJan 21 07:29
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techrights-botBlogs about #patents are so dead/dying that they write about #Wildlife instead of #patent issues https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/01/dire-wolf-dna-shows-distinct-new-world-lineage.htmlJan 21 07:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Dire Wolf DNA Shows Distinct New World LineageJan 21 07:30
techrights-bot"When I compiled LibreOffice recently on the Pi4, was unable to use the 'boost', 'harfbuzz' and 'neon' system packages, had to use internal versions." https://bkhome.org/news/202101/tweaks-for-openembedded-dunfell.htmlJan 21 07:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Tweaks for OpenEmbedded DunfellJan 21 07:35
techrights-bot"The startup has container security capabilities that are missing in Red Hat's #OpenShift #Kubernetes platform." https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/deals/red-hats-stackrox-acquisition-bolsters-its-hybrid-multi-cloud-strategy by @brideoflinuxJan 21 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datacenterknowledge.com | Red Hat's StackRox Deal Adds Container Security, Bolsters Multi-Cloud | Data Center KnowledgeJan 21 07:39
techrights-bot"Is performance the ultimate requirement? What amount of compromise are we comfortable with?" https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/144012/electron-ennui-coder-radio-397/Jan 21 07:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Electron Ennui | Coder Radio 397 | Jupiter BroadcastingJan 21 07:41
techrights-botIn a Move to Retain Small-Scale #CentOS Users, #IBM #RedHat Allows Free #RHEL Download [With Ifs and Buts] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146676#comment-27883Jan 21 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS is gone—but RHEL is now free for up to 16 production servers | Tux MachinesJan 21 07:46
techrights-bot"Starting from today, there is a new User groups page on the #GodotEngine website! This page replaces the old User groups page by featuring a community map that can be freely navigated and contributed to." https://godotengine.org/article/announcing-new-community-map-user-groups #deletegithubJan 21 07:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-godotengine.org | Godot Engine - Announcing the new community map for user groupsJan 21 07:50
techrights-bot"With the in-development Linux 5.11 kernel there are many great features and improvements especially for AMD users with some new drivers and other pleasant enhancements" #linux #kernel https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.11-AMD-Inv-Freq-PatchJan 21 07:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Fix Has Been Proposed For The Slower AMD Performance On Linux 5.11 - PhoronixJan 21 07:50
techrights-bot#Chrome 88 makes it easier to manage and change passwords http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146698#comment-27884Jan 21 07:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google and Mozilla Embrace More Restrictions | Tux MachinesJan 21 07:54
techrights-bot#Perl weekly challenge 096 - #RakuLang http://blogs.perl.org/users/joan_mimosinnet/2021/01/perl-weekly-challenge-096---raku.html #programmingJan 21 07:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Perl weekly challenge 096 - Raku | Joan Mimosinnet [blogs.perl.org]Jan 21 07:54
techrights-bot#Python #Programming • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146703 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latestJan 21 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Python Programming | Tux MachinesJan 21 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsJan 21 07:58
techrights-bot"Are you looking for open-source solid modeling software for your Linux PC? We recommend you try BRL-CAD. FOSS Linux brings you a detailed guide on its set up and usage." https://www.fosslinux.com/28454/brl‑cad-open-source-solid-modeling-cad-software.htmJan 21 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslinux.com | BRL‑CAD : Open-Source Solid Modeling CAD Software | FOSS LinuxJan 21 08:00
techrights-bot#Lightworks not fulfilling its promote to become #freesw (even partly) https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Lightworks-2021.1-ReleasedJan 21 08:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lightworks 2021.1 Released With UI Improvements, Other Video Editor Enhancements - PhoronixJan 21 08:01
techrights-bot#VLC 3.0.12 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146696#comment-27885 #freeswJan 21 08:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Istio, VLC Media Player, Deskreen and Signal | Tux MachinesJan 21 08:08
techrights-botMore on #Linux for #M1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146660#comment-27886 #gnu #hardware #appleJan 21 08:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: New Stable Releases and Hardware Support, Atomics Support in eBPF | Tux MachinesJan 21 08:08
techrights-bot#Ryzen 7 3700X + #popOS #gnu #linux https://boilingsteam.com/serval-ws-the-beast-laptop-from-system76/Jan 21 08:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Serval WS - The Beast Laptop from System76 - Boiling SteamJan 21 08:09
techrights-botToday #BT will phone me after another escalation, this time looking into #throttling and capping, which they FINALLY acknowledge. BT cannot keep up to standards due to #covid19 lockdowns. It can't be alone...Jan 21 08:11
techrights-botThis service is maintained by the Federated Networks AssociationJan 21 08:12
techrights-botA possible step toward integrity measurement for #Fedora https://lwn.net/Articles/842002/ #ibm #RedHat #gnu #linuxJan 21 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A possible step toward integrity measurement for Fedora [LWN.net]Jan 21 08:13
techrights-botOld #compilers and old bugs https://lwn.net/Articles/842122/ #programming #linux #kernelJan 21 08:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Old compilers and old bugs [LWN.net]Jan 21 08:14
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techrights-botToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146704 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 21 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJan 21 08:18
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techrights-bot#TUXEDO #InfinityBook S 15 Linux Laptop Launches with Tiger Lake CPUs, Ultra Thin Design • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146706 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 21 09:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TUXEDO InfinityBook S 15 Linux Laptop Launches with Tiger Lake CPUs, Ultra Thin Design | Tux MachinesJan 21 09:20
techrights-bot#Debian based #PinePhone #Mobian Edition Review. Spec, Price, and More. • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146705 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 21 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian based PinePhone Mobian Edition Review. Spec, Price, and More. | Tux MachinesJan 21 09:21
techrights-bot#IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/irc-log-200121/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSWJan 21 09:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, January 20, 2021 | TechrightsJan 21 09:23
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techrights-botJust got off the phone with #BT manager. I will report them to the #ombudsman and they're already preparing to defend themselves by sending face-saving letters. #ofcom #internet #throttlingJan 21 10:47
techrights-bot#BT is very afraid to admit: 1) traffic shaping and 2) issues with capacity due to #covid19 lockdown. They've escalated the discussion to managers who are mincing words.Jan 21 10:49
techrights-bot#RaspberryPi Foundation Release Their Own Silicon, the #RaspberryPiPico • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146707 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 21 10:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Foundation Release Their Own Silicon, the Raspberry Pi Pico | Tux MachinesJan 21 10:51
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techrights-bot#Lightworks 2021.1 Is Out: Biggest Release For Linux, Mac, And Windows • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146708Jan 21 11:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lightworks 2021.1 Is Out: Biggest Release For Linux, Mac, And Windows | Tux MachinesJan 21 11:18
techrights-bot#Wine 6.0 now available to download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146470#comment-27889 #gnu #linux #unixJan 21 11:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 6.0 Officially Released with Vulkan Backend for WineD3D, This Is What’s New | Tux MachinesJan 21 11:21
techrights-botHow #Nextcloud is the ultimate open source productivity suite • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146709 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freeswJan 21 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How Nextcloud is the ultimate open source productivity suite | Tux MachinesJan 21 11:23
techrights-bot#Mecool KM6 Deluxe (Amlogic S905X4) TV Box Review • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146710 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latestJan 21 11:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mecool KM6 Deluxe (Amlogic S905X4) TV Box Review | Tux MachinesJan 21 11:24
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techrights-bot#BT compensates for bad service by hiring managers based on their "niceness" rather than technical knowledge (they have almost none; so they can dodge a discussion based on the substance). I'm filing a formal complaint.Jan 21 11:39
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techrights-bot#InteLeaks – Part XXIV: Love for Microsoft, Not for #FreeSoftware or Whatever Replaces Microsoft • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/intel-love-for-microsoft/ •●• #GNU #Linux #FreeSWJan 21 11:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks – Part XXIV: Love for Microsoft, Not for Free Software or Whatever Replaces Microsoft | TechrightsJan 21 11:49
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techrights-bot#RaspberryPiPico Announced As $4 Microcontroller http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146707#comment-27893 #RasPi #GNU #LinuxJan 21 11:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Foundation Release Their Own Silicon, the Raspberry Pi Pico | Tux MachinesJan 21 11:53
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psydroid"even in units that are supposed to complete" <- compete?Jan 21 12:45
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techrights-bot#Intel is basing its big decisions on buzzwords and firms that master buzzwords; it’s sad that instead of listening to Intel’s own (in-house) engineers it’s relying on a bunch of clowns http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/intel-love-for-microsoft/Jan 21 13:22
schestowitz__psydroid: fixingJan 21 13:23
psydroidthey are hiring back the lead architect for Nehalem after hiring Gelsinger as their CEOJan 21 13:24
psydroidsomeone who retired 3 years agoJan 21 13:25
techrights-botUpdate on #epo today... http://techrights.org/2020/12/18/epo-strike-report/ coming shortly... the latestJan 21 13:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Almost Half of Vienna-based EPO Staff Went on Strike This Past Week | TechrightsJan 21 13:26
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techrights-bot#epo attacks not only its own staff but also pensioners http://techrights.org/2021/01/01/sap-pensioners-epo/Jan 21 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | New Leak: Today’s EPO Breaks Its Contract With Former Staff of the EPO, Not Just Existing Staff | TechrightsJan 21 13:29
schestowitz__psydroid: any link for that?Jan 21 13:30
techrights-bot"As far as I know, UK appeal is much more law based than at the EPO." #EPO is rogue and corrupt, and it's run by friends of friends rather than qualified managers. http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/the-inexorable-rise-of-epo-oral.html?showComment=1611179817027#c7633250144337924548Jan 21 13:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The inexorable rise of EPO oral proceedings by video conference - The IPKatJan 21 13:45
vZS1_2#NepotismInEPOJan 21 13:46
techrights-botThese people and this site are insane; they push for #patents on #nature and lie on behalf of overzealous #law firms, without understanding what's at stake or asking the public for its stance on such matters https://www.managingip.com/article/b1q6r7dvq3jbbn/monoclonal-antibody-biosimilars-pose-unique-ip-challengesJan 21 13:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Monoclonal antibody biosimilars pose unique IP challenges | Managing Intellectual PropertyJan 21 13:46
techrights-bot#Android Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146711 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latestJan 21 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 21 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsJan 21 13:47
schestowitz__vZS1_2: pretty much...Jan 21 13:48
schestowitz__I have a new leak readyJan 21 13:48
schestowitz__if you want to proof-read...Jan 21 13:48
vZS1_2Can do. Will be heading out soon, however.Jan 21 13:48
schestowitz__1 minute...Jan 21 13:48
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schestowitz__http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/the-epo-petition/Jan 21 13:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Central Staff Representatives (CSC) of the EPO Are Petitioning to End the Assault on EPO Staff | TechrightsJan 21 13:49
schestowitz__ok, quick, vZS1_2Jan 21 13:49
schestowitz__trying to weed out typos to avoid ad hom responsesJan 21 13:49
vZS1_2On itJan 21 13:49
psydroidschestowitz_, https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6757491729093451776/Jan 21 13:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Glenn Hinton on LinkedIn: After enjoying a real retirement for 3 years I have decided to go | 105 commentsJan 21 13:52
schestowitz__ahaJan 21 13:54
psydroidthey wouldn't have had to, if it wasn't for so many hardware engineers leaving for other companies (Apple, Ampere Computing etc.)Jan 21 13:55
vZS1_2schestowitz__: Didn't catch anything wrong.Jan 21 13:56
schestowitz__tyJan 21 13:56
schestowitz__:-)Jan 21 13:56
vZS1_2YwJan 21 13:57
schestowitz__psydroid: anything else?Jan 21 13:58
vZS1_2EU "management" is all about nepotism.Jan 21 13:58
techrights-botThe Central Staff Representatives (CSC) of the EPO Are Petitioning to End the Assault on EPO Staff • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/the-epo-petition/ •●• #Techrights #EPOJan 21 13:59
MinceRno, there's also corruptionJan 21 13:59
vZS1_2A lot of whom are unelectedJan 21 13:59
vZS1_2Nepotism is a form of corruptionJan 21 13:59
MinceRand appeasement of fascistsJan 21 13:59
MinceRother forms of corruption are also common in the EU institutionsJan 21 14:00
schestowitz__vZS1_2: sad in a sense... as I like the EUJan 21 14:00
schestowitz__but the more I see the more I go "hmmm"Jan 21 14:00
schestowitz__Breton, VLY...Jan 21 14:00
MinceRthough i'm not quite sure if the likes of the CFU are appeasing fideath or they agree with the whole planJan 21 14:00
schestowitz__http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/albrecht-ladson-von-der-leyen/Jan 21 14:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Understanding Thierry Breton: Little Miss Ladson Goes to Brussels | TechrightsJan 21 14:01
schestowitz__slavertyJan 21 14:01
schestowitz__slaveryJan 21 14:01
MinceRand just pretend to be opposedJan 21 14:01
schestowitz__the real kind, not some name of git repoJan 21 14:01
schestowitz__or branchJan 21 14:01
schestowitz__brbJan 21 14:01
schestowitz__next video about swpatsJan 21 14:01
vZS1_2When mass media belongs to the same people, it's not exactly easy to expose them.Jan 21 14:04
schestowitz__billgates bribes some EU sitesJan 21 14:05
vZS1_2ExampleJan 21 14:05
vZS1_2"The petition itself reads as follows and it’s dated one week before Christmas Day. We strongly encourage each and every member of staff to join this petition as the risk associated with doing so is little to none. There’s a lot that collective action can accomplish, even if the media looks the other way."Jan 21 14:05
schestowitz__like 'news' sites, e.g. euractivJan 21 14:05
schestowitz__many won't know thisJan 21 14:05
schestowitz__vZS1_2: yes, the EPO bribes and blackmailed the mediaJan 21 14:05
schestowitz__AFTER it covered itJan 21 14:05
schestowitz__it also threatened me several timesJan 21 14:06
schestowitz__as it did othersJan 21 14:06
schestowitz__it's a MafiaJan 21 14:06
vZS1_2Plutocrats are all thugs.Jan 21 14:07
vZS1_2Robber barons. Name is still appropriate.Jan 21 14:07
vZS1_2The lawyers and judges are all in their pocket as well so they get preferential treatment in the judicial system.Jan 21 14:12
vZS1_2And a lot of the time it isn't even clear if you can take them to court. EPO is a good example.Jan 21 14:13
vZS1_2Or you try to hold them accountable and the bodies responsible for oversight are their pals. Lets them off the hook. EPO again.Jan 21 14:14
vZS1_2That's corruption.Jan 21 14:14
vZS1_2And this is just one part of the EU "management" that's corrupt. I'm sure there are several other bodies but lack of whistleblowers.Jan 21 14:15
psydroidschestowitz_, nothing else for nowJan 21 14:19
psydroid<TechrightsBot-tr "www.tuxmachines.org | Mecool KM6"> Although this is getting me thinking that a relatively cheap but powerful GNU/Linux computer attached to every TV/monitor is becoming more and more of a reality and this could be worrying to Intel with respect to things like their overpriced NUC desktops as wellJan 21 14:22
psydroidand of course thisJan 21 14:23
psydroidhttps://corellium.com/blog/linux-m1Jan 21 14:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-corellium.com | How We Ported Linux to the M1Jan 21 14:23
vZS1_2bblJan 21 14:24
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Techrights-secWhat can be done to get the trade press to take up the topic ofJan 21 15:18
Techrights-secsoftware patents?  Jan 21 15:18
schestowitz__we tried. It's a waste of time/effort.Jan 21 15:18
MinceRwho's Techrights-sec? :>Jan 21 15:18
schestowitz__Jeff Epstein himself !!Jan 21 15:19
MinceRlolJan 21 15:19
schestowitz__serious answer:Jan 21 15:19
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schestowitz__someone who helps with techrights and prefer not to go by real nameJan 21 15:19
MinceRicJan 21 15:19
schestowitz__*prefersJan 21 15:19
MinceRi thought it was a botJan 21 15:19
MinceRdue to all the techrights* botsJan 21 15:19
schestowitz__each is a different programJan 21 15:20
schestowitz__Techrights-sec is actually a funnel from ytalkJan 21 15:20
schestowitz__like a bridgeJan 21 15:20
MinceRinterestingJan 21 15:21
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schestowitz__maybe I can explain how it's done in some future postJan 21 15:27
schestowitz__but ... tbh ... it's not of much general use or interestJan 21 15:27
techrights-ipfs ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▄▄▂▅▆▆▃▄▅▅▂▆▃▃▅▅▃▅▆▅▅▂▄▂▃▃▂▅▄▄▃▄ avg(k/sec) 20.26 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▂█▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 20.15  ⟲Jan 21 15:29
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techrights-botHey Hi (AI) is Just a Trojan Horse for Illegal #SoftwarePatents , According to EPO Management and Litigation Firms It’s in Bed With http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/epo-says-hey-hi/ #epo #swpats #europe #heyhiJan 21 15:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Hey Hi (AI) is Just a Trojan Horse for Illegal Software Patents, According to EPO Management and Litigation Firms It’s in Bed With | TechrightsJan 21 15:38
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schestowitz__psydroid: i need your assistance..Jan 21 15:54
psydroidschestowitz__: I'm hereJan 21 16:00
psydroidhttps://www.anandtech.com/show/16438/new-intel-ceo-making-waves-rehiring-retired-cpu-architectsJan 21 16:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.anandtech.com | New Intel CEO Making Waves: Rehiring Retired CPU ArchitectsJan 21 16:02
psydroid"Intel could get away with being lazy in the server space as Windows was the most widely used server OS, ran only on x86, and Linux was a non-factor. Those days are long gone."Jan 21 16:02
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scientes2xRaven86 do you know that russian youtube client, that is the same client but with pro enabled?Jan 21 16:03
scientes2I forget the nameJan 21 16:03
schestowitz__http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/intel-unusual-measures/Jan 21 16:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks – Part XXV: Intel’s Brain Drain Leads to Unusual Measures | TechrightsJan 21 16:04
schestowitz__psydroid: does it read OK to you?Jan 21 16:04
schestowitz__I will add the reference you added just nowJan 21 16:04
psydroidschestowitz__: let me seeJan 21 16:04
psydroidyes, it doesJan 21 16:06
techrights-botHow a Newly Inaugurated President #Biden Can Advance Software Freedom (If He Actually Wishes to Do So) • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/biden-four-suggestions/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSWJan 21 16:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How a Newly Inaugurated President Biden Can Advance Software Freedom (If He Actually Wishes to Do So) | TechrightsJan 21 16:06
psydroidit's many things coming together for Intel at the same time, so it's not just GNU/Linux or Apple, but essentially an entire industry wanting to get rid of the stronghold the company has over itJan 21 16:08
schestowitz__added quoteJan 21 16:12
techrights-bot#InteLeaks – Part XXV: Intel’s Brain Drain Leads to Unusual Measures • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/intel-unusual-measures/ •●• #Techrights #Intel http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaksJan 21 16:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - TechrightsJan 21 16:13
techrights-bot#intel very rapidly became a laughing stock of an employer because it hired clueless people who drive out the technical people http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaksJan 21 16:15
vZS1It's now commonplace. They're so busy circle-jerking over their buzzwords and nepotism the they're driving the companies into the ground Jan 21 16:16
vZS1The old CEOs and founders are usually not around so it's not the same environment where they needed to be actually doing real work to survive as companiesJan 21 16:17
vZS1Now they just buy their competition that threaten the monopoly.Jan 21 16:18
schestowitz__antitrust does not existJan 21 16:19
vZS1That's why strong anti-trust and anti-monopoly systems need to be put in place and maintainedJan 21 16:19
schestowitz__http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/A_Critic%27s_Free_Software_Dictionary#Antitrust_lawJan 21 16:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Critic's Free Software Dictionary - TechrightsJan 21 16:19
schestowitz__"     A mythical, unicorn-like creature that protects consumers from monopolistic corruption. Last known sighting in 2001. "Jan 21 16:19
vZS1Sleepy Joe is actively sabotaging anti-trust with his appointmentsJan 21 16:19
schestowitz__yes, as noted Jan 21 16:20
schestowitz__by sites I cite anywayJan 21 16:20
schestowitz__not sure if MSM covers itJan 21 16:20
schestowitz__maybe it doesJan 21 16:20
schestowitz__but I would not be on itJan 21 16:20
schestowitz__Biden is now "hope" and "change"Jan 21 16:21
vZS1It used to exist in the 60s-70s. AT&T were forbidden from entering the computing marketJan 21 16:21
schestowitz__don't spoil the plutocrats' sold asset to the 'plebs'Jan 21 16:21
schestowitz__vZS1: IBM alsoJan 21 16:21
schestowitz__TR covered it last yearJan 21 16:21
schestowitz__lots on IBMJan 21 16:21
schestowitz__harder to find nowJan 21 16:21
schestowitz__esp. on wwwJan 21 16:21
schestowitz__it was pre-wwwJan 21 16:21
vZS1YeahJan 21 16:21
vZS1I need to go and read those relevant TR piecesJan 21 16:21
schestowitz__we uploaded some old PDFsJan 21 16:21
schestowitz__scansJan 21 16:21
schestowitz__not digital, but typedJan 21 16:22
schestowitz__as they become rarerJan 21 16:22
schestowitz__and many "hatters" treat IBM like cutesyJan 21 16:22
schestowitz__"IBM LOVES LINUX"Jan 21 16:22
schestowitz__decades of conditioningJan 21 16:22
schestowitz__forgetting how IBM and MSFT colludedJan 21 16:23
schestowitz__and still do in many areasJan 21 16:23
schestowitz__IBM LOVES INCOMEJan 21 16:23
schestowitz__(patent extortion included)Jan 21 16:23
schestowitz__Krishna/Red Hat/Whitehurst: ZASSS NICHT MA DEPARTMENT!!Jan 21 16:24
techrights-botToday in #Techrights • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146716 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 21 16:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJan 21 16:25
schestowitz__[15:33] <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> note that the contact who told me about the Bxxxxxxxxxxxxx incident of 2020 was not Lxxxxxxxxx but a different person who *still* works thereJan 21 16:27
schestowitz__:-DJan 21 16:27
schestowitz__still no source ever caughtJan 21 16:28
schestowitz__soon 15 yearsJan 21 16:28
techrights-ipfs ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▄▄▅▆▄▅▅▅▃▅▆▂▅▆▃▅▄▅▅▆▃▅▅▆▆▇▃▅▅▅▅▅▅▇ avg(k/sec) 23.96 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▂▃▃▃▄▅▂▃▂▁▂▂▃▄▄▃▂▂▃▃▃▂▃▄▃▃▂▂▄▃▃▃▄ avg(k/sec) 10.16  ⟲Jan 21 16:29
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/superherointj/status/1352200077373222912Jan 21 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@superherointj: @swyx I have switched from DuckDuckGo. https://t.co/2DWifFdufBJan 21 16:32
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schestowitz__vzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1352287554226286592Jan 21 16:32
schestowitz__zoobab: vzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1352287554226286592Jan 21 16:33
schestowitz__they tried and failed for 4 yearsJan 21 16:33
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schestowitz__under the D party they will struggle even moreJan 21 16:33
schestowitz__as tech giants with clout don't want itJan 21 16:33
schestowitz__It's "BIG LITIGATION" that wants itJan 21 16:33
schestowitz__Like Iancu's firmJan 21 16:33
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techrights-bot#deletegithub https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1352175180169310221Jan 21 16:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @Keruspe @bagder @schestowitz I use git since the early days, always bragged since day 1 about their "decentralized… https://t.co/A7F3VvImnBJan 21 16:40
schestowitz__zoobab: Git itself can be decentralisedJan 21 16:44
schestowitz__if done rightJan 21 16:44
schestowitz__there's also a p2p variant/implementation of itJan 21 16:45
schestowitz__but I heard it is not reliableJan 21 16:45
schestowitz__maybe some webhosts wish to make an easy setup process for one's own domain with something like gitea (not sure about gitlab with their "community edition")Jan 21 16:45
schestowitz__and the webhost can offer support and maintenance for itJan 21 16:45
schestowitz__if unhappy, you keep the domain, move to another hostJan 21 16:46
schestowitz__or self-host, maybe from homeJan 21 16:46
vZS1_2Depends on your definition of decentralisedJan 21 16:46
schestowitz__yeahJan 21 16:46
schestowitz__they also misuse terms like "distributed"Jan 21 16:46
vZS1_2Git is already pretty decentralisedJan 21 16:46
schestowitz__I did a video after you and I debated this (in er Rust or Raku, not sure)Jan 21 16:46
schestowitz__*in reJan 21 16:46
schestowitz__at our company we have our own git serverJan 21 16:47
vZS1_2The Git object database can also be made "distributed" quite easily.Jan 21 16:47
vZS1_2You don't really need Git to be p2pJan 21 16:48
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vZS1_2The idea of Git itself is just to track code.Jan 21 16:48
schestowitz__code changesJan 21 16:48
schestowitz__esp.Jan 21 16:48
schestowitz__and who by etc.Jan 21 16:48
schestowitz__not bug reportsJan 21 16:48
vZS1_2YeahJan 21 16:49
schestowitz__butJan 21 16:49
schestowitz__with proper operations and mailing lists you can have that tooJan 21 16:49
schestowitz__with proper tagging and filingJan 21 16:49
vZS1_2You don't even need a mailing list. Bugzilla still works great.Jan 21 16:49
schestowitz__and email will be around for a vvvvvvvvvery long timeJan 21 16:49
schestowitz__with thousands of applications supporting and understanding emailJan 21 16:49
vZS1_2Especially private email servers.Jan 21 16:49
schestowitz__i installed bugzilla for nhsJan 21 16:49
vZS1_2You can make do with Git + IRC + bug-tracker-XJan 21 16:50
vZS1_2It boils down to DVCS+communication+bug-tracking.Jan 21 16:53
vZS1_2You can fit in your choice for each slotJan 21 16:53
vZS1_2Anything else is superficialJan 21 16:53
schestowitz__yupJan 21 16:55
schestowitz__BTW, I did not forget about the next ipfs project or twoJan 21 16:55
vZS1_2Neither have I. Just have a lot going on atm.Jan 21 16:55
schestowitz__I want to ensure the image->unicode conversion is settled/stabledJan 21 16:55
schestowitz__it's already a lot more legible with Braille  as glyphsJan 21 16:56
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schestowitz__Cultural appropriation of blind people? ;-0Jan 21 16:56
vZS1_2I've got a couple things to sort out over the next 2-3 months. Then I can work more on the TR infra.Jan 21 16:56
vZS1_2lolJan 21 16:56
schestowitz__not sure if you saw it, but...Jan 21 16:56
schestowitz__I am going to file a complaint about BTJan 21 16:57
schestowitz__And they insist on sending me a letter firstJan 21 16:57
vZS1_2I did see it. I follow your personal RSS feed now.Jan 21 16:57
schestowitz__I guess it's their procedure for discouraging people from going aheadJan 21 16:57
vZS1_2Also, I saw Techrights-sec mention something along the lines of where's the media coverage for swpats.Jan 21 17:00
vZS1_2I agree that we should assume it won't get anyJan 21 17:00
techrights-botThe EPO, just one month after the staff went on strike, is about to receive a compelling #petition to stop the assault on #EPO staff http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/the-epo-petition/ #europe #patents #swpatsJan 21 17:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Central Staff Representatives (CSC) of the EPO Are Petitioning to End the Assault on EPO Staff | TechrightsJan 21 17:00
vZS1_2The best we can hope for is to gain ground at the grass-roots levelJan 21 17:01
techrights-botThe longtime pushers or the lobby of #patent profiteers just carry on pushing for #softwarepatents , nowadays latching onto the inane and unwarranted media hype around #HeyHi (AI) — a hype wave that was co-opted by #EPO management to grant unlawful #patents http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/epo-says-hey-hi/Jan 21 17:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Hey Hi (AI) is Just a Trojan Horse for Illegal Software Patents, According to EPO Management and Litigation Firms It’s in Bed With | TechrightsJan 21 17:01
techrights-bot#Techrights has ‘Four Suggestions’ to President #Biden , the 46th ‘front end’ of American #plutocracy http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/biden-four-suggestions/Jan 21 17:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How a Newly Inaugurated President Biden Can Advance Software Freedom (If He Actually Wishes to Do So) | TechrightsJan 21 17:03
techrights-botAs the company once known as #chipzilla loses its relevance and dominance in the market it’s reaching out to retired people, trying to get them back onboard http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/intel-unusual-measures/ #intel #hardware #crisisJan 21 17:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks – Part XXV: Intel’s Brain Drain Leads to Unusual Measures | TechrightsJan 21 17:04
vZS1_2And it's working. TR has got more whistleblowers come to it.Jan 21 17:04
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schestowitz__[17:00] <vZS1_2> I agree that we should assume it won't get anyJan 21 17:06
schestowitz__There used to beJan 21 17:06
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schestowitz__as zoobab can attest (he has been in it longer than I have, almost 20 years), there used to be lots of media debate about patentability of softwareJan 21 17:06
schestowitz__now the media is dead or mumJan 21 17:06
schestowitz__and panels on the subject as just "HEY HI"Jan 21 17:06
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schestowitz__no discussions of substance in EU Parl, eitherJan 21 17:07
schestowitz__hi, karolyiJan 21 17:07
karolyiheyJan 21 17:07
schestowitz__new here?Jan 21 17:07
karolyiI'm trying to join though matrixJan 21 17:07
schestowitz__ah, I heard there are bridges for itJan 21 17:07
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karolyiah yes, I was reading an article about DDG, linked that for lots of people, and today I decided to take a look at the entire site, and I must say that there's so great material on it, it ended up added to my RSS readerJan 21 17:08
karolyi[m]testingJan 21 17:08
schestowitz__I saw some links to it in twitterJan 21 17:09
schestowitz__and some people who after reading it said they would dump ddgJan 21 17:09
vZS1_2karolyi, there's also a very comprehensive Wiki: http://techrights.org/wiki/Main_PageJan 21 17:09
schestowitz__we actually wrote a lot about ddg a decade or so agoJan 21 17:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Main Page - TechrightsJan 21 17:09
schestowitz__organising a site with 30k blog posts is a challengeJan 21 17:10
schestowitz__as blogs are linear, chronological, unlike books with a particular sequences and chapter and sub/sectionsJan 21 17:10
schestowitz__anyway, bbiabJan 21 17:10
schestowitz__will catch up with gnu/linux newsJan 21 17:10
vZS1_2schestowitz__: o/Jan 21 17:10
karolyiwell the site needs a design revampJan 21 17:10
karolyilooks kinda clunky with my dark reader, but I can take it, content matters moreJan 21 17:11
vZS1_2It's a WIP.Jan 21 17:11
vZS1_2For the newer stuff, you can read the bulletins. They're text-onlyJan 21 17:11
schestowitz__we weighed changed for 12 yearsJan 21 17:11
schestowitz__but each time the downsides seemed greater than benefitsJan 21 17:12
schestowitz__http://techrights.org/txtJan 21 17:12
karolyivZS1_2: no worries, it's already in my feedly, reading articles that wayJan 21 17:12
schestowitz__we want to get off www/html/http eventuallyJan 21 17:12
schestowitz__to the degree possibleJan 21 17:12
schestowitz__or make the web interface just an "option"Jan 21 17:12
vZS1_2Hybrid approach is what we're aiming for, right?Jan 21 17:13
karolyi[m]uh, messages from irc to matrix have a delay, maybe it's just my client still syncing?Jan 21 17:13
schestowitz__as the www is obese and upsetting to the target audience of ours anyway.... not people who think FB is "the Web"Jan 21 17:13
schestowitz__karolyi[m]: ask DaemonFC[m]Jan 21 17:13
schestowitz__he uses those bridgesJan 21 17:13
schestowitz__maybe there are different types of bridges or software or relaysJan 21 17:13
karolyischestowitz__: get off to what?Jan 21 17:14
schestowitz__ipfs, textJan 21 17:14
schestowitz__we thought at first gopher/geminiJan 21 17:14
schestowitz__but there are issues with them alsoJan 21 17:14
schestowitz__we looked at a bunch of others, about half a dozen last yearJan 21 17:15
schestowitz__then vZS1_2 came and helped set up p2p-like protocolsJan 21 17:15
karolyiI think you have to think of the normies, they will keep using browsers, and especially with the recent fleeing from big tech, you will get a big pushJan 21 17:15
schestowitz__browsers are still an optionJan 21 17:15
schestowitz__nothing wrong with most browsersJan 21 17:15
vZS1_2We have stuff like Brave and HTTP-gateways to cover the normies.Jan 21 17:15
schestowitz__but over 80% of www users uses malware called "browser'Jan 21 17:15
schestowitz__like "edge" or "chrome" or "safari"Jan 21 17:15
schestowitz__those are not tenable for freedom anymore, they even come with blobs for DRMJan 21 17:16
schestowitz__"because pirates!"Jan 21 17:16
vZS1_2All our ipfs files are accessible in any web browser over the public IPFS gatewayJan 21 17:16
karolyiwell, you might as well stop using anything with a CPU then ...Jan 21 17:16
schestowitz__No, many CPUs are fineJan 21 17:17
schestowitz__that's false equivalenceJan 21 17:17
schestowitz__in fact, there are more open hardware CPUs nowJan 21 17:17
karolyiwith what AMD and Intel has... that is straight out optional spying on everythingJan 21 17:17
schestowitz__risc-v is the most promising atmJan 21 17:17
karolyiI'm all for open HWJan 21 17:17
schestowitz__http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146431Jan 21 17:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Seeed launches BeagleV, a $150 RISC-V computer designed to run Linux | Tux MachinesJan 21 17:17
schestowitz__whole computersJan 21 17:17
karolyibut, I can't just print circuitsJan 21 17:17
schestowitz__not expensive Jan 21 17:17
schestowitz__karolyi: you might not be able to write a browser from scratch eitherJan 21 17:18
schestowitz__ but some will do it for you and shareJan 21 17:18
karolyithere's also this, we talked about it in my matrix room the other day: http://www.homebrewcpu.com/Jan 21 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.homebrewcpu.com | Homebrew CPU Home PageJan 21 17:18
schestowitz__same for CPU designsJan 21 17:18
schestowitz__karolyi: you allude to AMD  PSP and Intel's MEJan 21 17:18
schestowitz__eventually we want to move away from thoseJan 21 17:19
karolyiyes I doJan 21 17:19
schestowitz__with NVIDIA I might not want to use ARM anymoreJan 21 17:19
schestowitz__US/NSA and binary culture of secrecy and DRMJan 21 17:19
karolyiwe who?Jan 21 17:19
schestowitz__we as in people who pursue tech right, s/w freedomJan 21 17:19
schestowitz__generally taking back control of cpmputingJan 21 17:19
karolyicount me in, then :)Jan 21 17:19
schestowitz__tackling the asymmetric relationshipJan 21 17:20
karolyiI'm all for itJan 21 17:20
schestowitz__Like browsers being used to hoover up our browsing history for spy agenciesJan 21 17:20
schestowitz__it's only getting worseJan 21 17:20
schestowitz__you cannot fix the roguesJan 21 17:20
schestowitz__so you create alternativeJan 21 17:20
karolyiI'm on waterfox now... after ditching chrome, it seemed to be the best option, even if it's an older geckoJan 21 17:20
schestowitz__and then foster those and nurture them with more usersJan 21 17:20
schestowitz__waterfox spiesJan 21 17:20
schestowitz__system1Jan 21 17:21
vZS1_2homebrewcpu looks very impressive. Jan 21 17:21
schestowitz__they got 'boughtJan 21 17:21
schestowitz__like startpageJan 21 17:21
schestowitz__http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/StartpageJan 21 17:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Startpage - TechrightsJan 21 17:21
karolyischestowitz__: spies how? telemetry is off per default in itJan 21 17:21
schestowitz__waterfox devs hate me/us for exposing their deal with the devil, system1Jan 21 17:21
karolyiah, I fixed the search engine part already... using a german guy's searx instanceJan 21 17:21
schestowitz__karolyi: they're owned (wholly or partially) by a spying companyJan 21 17:22
schestowitz__I use searx alsoJan 21 17:22
schestowitz__https://searx.feneas.org is fast and reliableJan 21 17:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searx.feneas.org | searxJan 21 17:22
karolyischestowitz__: you get no argument from me on that, but as long the source is open and there's no botnet built in, it's good enough for my standards, until there will be something betterJan 21 17:22
schestowitz__https://www.ghacks.net/2020/02/14/waterfox-web-browser-sold-to-system1/Jan 21 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ghacks.net | Waterfox web browser sold to System1 - gHacks Tech NewsJan 21 17:23
karolyi[m]<schestowitz__ "https://searx.feneas.org is fast"> I'm in Germany so I picked a german instance from the listJan 21 17:23
schestowitz__http://techrights.org/2020/10/17/mozilla-abandoned-users/Jan 21 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Sad Story of Mozilla Keeps Getting Sadder Because Mozilla’s Managers Abandoned Users and Chose Companies as Their Clients | TechrightsJan 21 17:23
karolyimozilla is fucked, imoJan 21 17:23
schestowitz__they have problemJan 21 17:23
schestowitz__I support them in spiritJan 21 17:23
karolyibut, the source is out there, can be improvedJan 21 17:23
schestowitz__but I think they got too badly fedJan 21 17:23
schestowitz__'f'edJan 21 17:23
schestowitz__bad leadershipJan 21 17:24
vZS1_2Infiltrated orgJan 21 17:24
schestowitz__http://techrights.org/2020/06/22/mozilla-board/Jan 21 17:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla Hires From Microsoft for Mozilla’s Board | TechrightsJan 21 17:24
schestowitz__http://techrights.org/2019/11/03/the-privacy-scam/Jan 21 17:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Facebook and Other Surveillance Capitalists Won’t Save Mozilla From Google Dependence | TechrightsJan 21 17:24
schestowitz__Run by people who are into "data science"Jan 21 17:24
schestowitz__"hey hi" (AI)Jan 21 17:24
schestowitz__"big date"Jan 21 17:24
schestowitz__They try to become "Data firm" like GOogleJan 21 17:24
karolyiand the SJW agenda, yes. but like I said, as long as the code is solid ... I would build on top of that, but I don't have the manpowerJan 21 17:25
schestowitz__while Google sponsors themJan 21 17:25
schestowitz__GNU has a Firefox fork of sortsJan 21 17:25
schestowitz__manybe severalJan 21 17:25
schestowitz__*maybeJan 21 17:25
schestowitz__waterfox started with good intentions, but there was no business model apparently... so they have a new boss nowJan 21 17:25
schestowitz__I use falkon myselfJan 21 17:25
karolyithere was palemoon I think, but it doesn't support webrtc since that has some closed source code I thinkJan 21 17:26
schestowitz__it's the kde browser, I've used that for half a decade almostJan 21 17:26
vZS1_2Gnu IceCat is a project that tries to keep Firefox free from contaminationJan 21 17:26
schestowitz__I also use konqueror and used to use rekonq when it was still actively maintainedJan 21 17:26
schestowitz__they gather no data at allJan 21 17:26
karolyiyes, but can you confirm waterfox does?Jan 21 17:26
zoobabGit over IPFS means some commits/repos will disseaper due to garbage collectJan 21 17:27
zoobabI would store all the code in a giant blockchainJan 21 17:27
vZS1_2>zoobab Git over IPFS means some commits/repos will disseaper due to garbage collectJan 21 17:28
karolyiI chose that because it still somewhat functional (webrtc with matrix is a big point for me, I'm building communication networks), and not ungoogled chromium because of the CNAME first party advertiser fiasco that can't be filtered out in itJan 21 17:28
vZS1_2That is false. When you pin an IPFS object, it doesn't get garbage collected.Jan 21 17:28
zoobabokJan 21 17:28
zoobabgood newsJan 21 17:28
schestowitz__ipfs is goodJan 21 17:28
schestowitz__you need to use it for a while to grasp itJan 21 17:28
zoobabmeaning you would have to force 'pining' by defaultJan 21 17:28
schestowitz__very robustJan 21 17:28
schestowitz__I can kill off my ipfs process hereJan 21 17:28
schestowitz__and techrights would still be served by 'url' (CID)Jan 21 17:28
zoobabI looked at porting to openwrt, but Go was already a problemJan 21 17:29
techrights-ipfs ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▄▅▄▇▅▆▅▄▅▆▇▅▆▄▅▃▆▄▄▄▄▄▄▅▆▃▇▅▅▃▆▆▅ avg(k/sec) 22.81 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▄▁▂▄▄▄▄▅▃▂▄▃▃▃▂▄▃▃▂▄▂▄▃▂▃▄▃▃▃▂▄▄ avg(k/sec) 13.10  ⟲Jan 21 17:29
vZS1_2You can easily pin/unpin CIDs. There's an entire CLI for go-ipfs.Jan 21 17:29
zoobabI heard there are now C implementationsJan 21 17:29
karolyihow old is this techrights thing? I just bumped into it recentlyJan 21 17:29
schestowitz__we use the golang oneJan 21 17:29
schestowitz__never crashed on me (yet)Jan 21 17:29
schestowitz__for 3 monthsJan 21 17:29
zoobabI guess this is the most usedJan 21 17:29
schestowitz__karolyi: 15 years this yearJan 21 17:29
vZS1_2go-ipfs is the only stable implementation I know ofJan 21 17:30
zoobabFFII was created in 1998Jan 21 17:30
schestowitz__'stable' ;-)Jan 21 17:30
schestowitz__vZS1_2: you had issues with it lately ;-)Jan 21 17:30
zoobabafter some dispute in Germany with Axel HornsJan 21 17:30
karolyiFFII?Jan 21 17:30
vZS1_2That's more down to me probably I did a lot of changes at once.Jan 21 17:30
vZS1_2Hasn't crashed on schestowitz__ yetJan 21 17:31
zoobabHartmut Pilch was in FITUGJan 21 17:31
schestowitz__is he still in EPO?Jan 21 17:31
schestowitz__I asked around recently?Jan 21 17:31
karolyiI'm late to the party then, although I count as an internet veteran.... would've been nice to discover you guys earlier :)Jan 21 17:32
zoobabhttps://www.fitug.de/debate/9706/msg00003.htmlJan 21 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fitug.de | Re: [News]EU Commissioners Urge Internet Business CautionJan 21 17:32
vZS1_2karolyi, I'm new here as well.Jan 21 17:32
zoobabAxel Horns is working for a patent companyJan 21 17:32
zoobabaround Munich I believeJan 21 17:33
karolyiokay it seems that the messages from irc are synced with less latency nowJan 21 17:33
schestowitz__zoobab: he reads TR and sometimes links to itJan 21 17:33
schestowitz__karolyi: maybe cachingJan 21 17:33
karolyi[m]I keep telling everybody that around ~2006 something went terribly wrong when the big tech companies emerged, and now is the time to bound back from itJan 21 17:34
karolyi[m]okay I think I'll stay on here from matrix nowJan 21 17:34
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techrights-bot#Linux has been ported to run on Apple’s M1 Macs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146660#comment-27895Jan 21 17:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: New Stable Releases and Hardware Support, Atomics Support in eBPF | Tux MachinesJan 21 17:35
vZS1_2I think it's more an eternal struggle. Things are so bad that even the "normies" caught wind of the situation now.Jan 21 17:36
zoobabPilch vs Horns: https://www.fitug.de/debate/0101/threads.htmlJan 21 17:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fitug.de | Mail Thread IndexJan 21 17:36
vZS1_2Just yesterday, someone I know was complaining about Twitter mobs ganging up on her.Jan 21 17:38
karolyi[m]<vZS1_2 "I think it's more an eternal str"> normie see normie do, what the big tech did well is to make technology easily accessableJan 21 17:38
vZS1_2I told said individual to leave socialcontrolmediaJan 21 17:38
karolyi[m]but now opensource stuff is catching up and normies are willing to do the extra mileJan 21 17:38
vZS1_2"openwashing"Jan 21 17:38
karolyi[m]I wouldn't put SJW appropriated words on itJan 21 17:40
karolyi[m]but you're free to do so :)Jan 21 17:40
vZS1_2We don't use the term open source here. It's misleading.Jan 21 17:40
karolyi[m]let's just make sure that it won't get cancerousJan 21 17:40
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techrights-bot#Ubuntu 21.04 (Hirsute Hippo) Will Ship with GNOME 3.38 Desktop Instead of GNOME 40 • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146712 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latestJan 21 17:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.04 (Hirsute Hippo) Will Ship with GNOME 3.38 Desktop Instead of GNOME 40 | Tux MachinesJan 21 17:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsJan 21 17:41
vZS1_2Freedom-respecting software is gaining traction.Jan 21 17:41
karolyi[m]I bought myself a Lenovo t15g recently, and tried ubuntu on it... never had I thought it got this bloated... got my manjaro now on itJan 21 17:42
karolyi[m]but the Intel ME thing keeps bogging meJan 21 17:42
vZS1_2Ubuntu also has spyware telemetry. snap.Jan 21 17:43
karolyi[m]snap? isn't it just a packed application with all the dependencies?Jan 21 17:44
vZS1_2It sends "metrics" to CanonicalJan 21 17:44
karolyi[m]or maybe something running it changes it into a botnet?Jan 21 17:44
vZS1_2snapdJan 21 17:44
vZS1_2It's a persistent daemonJan 21 17:44
karolyi[m]ahaJan 21 17:44
karolyi[m]well, good riddance thenJan 21 17:44
vZS1_2IndeedJan 21 17:45
techrights-bot#Ventoy 1.0.33 • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146713 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latestJan 21 17:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ventoy 1.0.33 | Tux MachinesJan 21 17:45
karolyi[m]are these new articles or why do they keep popping up? kinda confusingJan 21 17:46
vZS1_2They're a feed from http://www.tuxmachines.org/Jan 21 17:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines | Do you waddle the waddle?Jan 21 17:47
techrights-bot8 Best Free and Open Source Linux Point-of-Sale Software • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146714 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freeswJan 21 17:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 8 Best Free and Open Source Linux Point-of-Sale Software | Tux MachinesJan 21 17:47
karolyi[m]ohJan 21 17:47
vZS1_2I believe schestowitz__ is working on removing it from this IRC channel.Jan 21 17:47
vZS1_2We spoke about this yesterday.Jan 21 17:47
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schestowitz__[17:41] <vZS1_2> Freedom-respecting software is gaining traction.   << I noticed more KDE and Debian devs no longer saying "open source" but free software, insteadJan 21 17:48
vZS1_2It throws me off as wellJan 21 17:48
schestowitz__we need to set the granularity of these rightJan 21 17:49
schestowitz__for more suitable channelJan 21 17:49
schestowitz__let me work on that for a bit...Jan 21 17:49
karolyi[m]karolyi: testJan 21 17:49
schestowitz__test okJan 21 17:49
karolyi[m]okay, so it works this way... never seen an irc bridge beforeJan 21 17:50
schestowitz__vZS1_2: we'll need to clearly define what is relevant to this channel in terms of newsJan 21 17:50
karolyi[m]btw yes, free < open source, this needs to be clarifiedJan 21 17:50
schestowitz__I post politics, patents, copyright, gnu/linux.... but what fits where was always elusiveJan 21 17:50
schestowitz__karolyi[m]: irc was the first thing (almost) I used when I got connected to this "internet" thingJan 21 17:51
schestowitz__protocols that last that long have merit to themJan 21 17:51
vZS1_2I think Matrix has bridges for lots of things now. Slack, Discord, IRC, etc..Jan 21 17:51
schestowitz__usenet is also still around, despite ISP/copyright cartel and Google attacking nntpJan 21 17:51
schestowitz__Salesforce will kill SlackJan 21 17:52
schestowitz__like Microsoft killed MixersJan 21 17:52
karolyi[m]the golden 90's, I've been sitting though nights before my monitor and dialup connection, back in Hungary... we also had IRC communities, organized a linux club back in the day evenJan 21 17:52
karolyi[m] * the golden 90's, I've been sitting trhough nights before my monitor and dialup connection, back in Hungary... we also had IRC communities, organized a linux club back in the day evenJan 21 17:52
schestowitz__they're bloated and there's no technical rationale for their existence, just marketing inertiaJan 21 17:52
schestowitz__karolyi[m]: now 'we' have 'facebook friends'Jan 21 17:53
schestowitz__"liiiiiiike"Jan 21 17:53
karolyi[m]I'm into matrix very much, I must say... and it's hard to get me excited about new technology these daysJan 21 17:53
karolyi[m]I hate social media with a passionJan 21 17:53
karolyi[m]let's just say thatJan 21 17:53
vZS1_2Welcome to the clubJan 21 17:53
schestowitz__it's toxicJan 21 17:53
schestowitz__(never mind the time wasted)Jan 21 17:53
zoobabI will go back to the 80s with no internetJan 21 17:54
karolyi[m]oh, you will waste time 20 different ways, but with way less harm to your mental healthJan 21 17:54
zoobaband my BMXJan 21 17:54
karolyi[m]btw, do you guys know the internet privacy guy on lbry? he seems to be basedJan 21 17:55
karolyi[m]talks about how to screw over information trackers and whatnotJan 21 17:55
vZS1_2What's "lbry"?Jan 21 17:56
karolyi[m]I bumped into him recently, I guess he caught wind with the recent mass fleeing from big techJan 21 17:56
karolyi[m]oh.... a video siteJan 21 17:56
karolyi[m]https://lbry.tv/@RobBraxmanTech:6/Beating-Big-Tech-at-Their-Own-Game!-(Solutions-to-Censorship,-Surveillance,-Information-Restriction):dJan 21 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lbry.tv | Beating Big Tech at Their Own Game! (Solutions to Censorship, Surveillance, Information Restriction)Jan 21 17:57
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karolyi[m]I think the techrights site could be migrated into a django cms with some work... and time that I don't have :)Jan 21 18:00
karolyi[m]but for me the RSS feed is best for now, shows the articles in a comfy wayJan 21 18:00
vZS1_2Wordpress works just fine. I don't see proportionate gains for the amount of work a migration like that would take.Jan 21 18:01
schestowitz__ django cms?Jan 21 18:02
schestowitz__no wayJan 21 18:02
schestowitz__at work we support one site managed by  django cms Jan 21 18:02
schestowitz__and it has been awfulJan 21 18:02
schestowitz__I used loads of CMSsJan 21 18:03
schestowitz__ django cms is not a good oneJan 21 18:03
schestowitz__not the back end, not the front endJan 21 18:03
schestowitz__the worst I used was squiz matrixJan 21 18:03
schestowitz__hard to maintain, hard to useJan 21 18:03
schestowitz__the australian company behind it rotting awayJan 21 18:03
schestowitz__with  django cms  it's not clear where it will be in 10 yearsJan 21 18:03
schestowitz__and they rely on Microsoft Guido Van IcazaJan 21 18:04
schestowitz__who nonchalantly forces people to rewrite python2 software for python3Jan 21 18:04
schestowitz__so python based CMSs are just as awful if not worse than PHPJan 21 18:04
schestowitz__(Drupal, WP)Jan 21 18:04
vZS1_2The guy in that video basically says encryption is useless. I haven't heard bigger bullshit in a while.Jan 21 18:05
karolyi[m]I haven't used the CMS part but I've built systems in django, but yes it might be that the CMS in itself is badJan 21 18:06
karolyi[m]<vZS1_2 "The guy in that video basically "> he talks about it being useless because the metadata of it being collectedJan 21 18:06
vZS1_2Don't recommend things you haven't had a lot of experience with (:Jan 21 18:06
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schestowitz__[18:05] <vZS1_2> The guy in that video basically says encryption is useless. I haven't heard bigger bullshit in a while.Jan 21 18:07
schestowitz__so banking is all a scamJan 21 18:07
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schestowitz__even offline bankingJan 21 18:07
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schestowitz__because they pass around messages like balances and stuffJan 21 18:07
schestowitz__and encryption "is useless"Jan 21 18:07
vZS1_2That guy is a hackJan 21 18:07
schestowitz__karolyi[m]: btw, re lbryJan 21 18:07
schestowitz__because we started doing lots of videos I set up a lbry accountJan 21 18:08
schestowitz__it was awful in a lot of wayJan 21 18:08
schestowitz__I ran outJan 21 18:08
schestowitz__too many warning signs, I forget the specifics by nowJan 21 18:08
karolyi[m]<schestowitz__ "and encryption "is useless""> no, you're right but you take it out of context, he talks about messages encryption being useless on centralized platforms because the agencies will just keep collecting metadata (whom you talk to, when, where)Jan 21 18:08
schestowitz__so that's falsely-advetised encryptionJan 21 18:08
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schestowitz__like "safe" between you and $SpyCompaNYJan 21 18:09
vZS1_2That's not real encryptionJan 21 18:09
vZS1_2That's fake encryptionJan 21 18:09
schestowitz__Sometimes they call it "end to end"Jan 21 18:09
schestowitz__between you and Zuckerberg :-)Jan 21 18:09
karolyi[m]that too, and that e2e doesn't matter to agencies because metadata is more valuable for them. I think the PRISM project was based on that tooJan 21 18:09
vZS1_2BullshitJan 21 18:09
schestowitz__https://www.esquire.com/uk/latest-news/a19490586/mark-zuckerberg-called-people-who-handed-over-their-data-dumb-f/Jan 21 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.esquire.com | Mark Zuckerberg Called People Who Handed Over Their Data "Dumb F****"Jan 21 18:09
schestowitz__https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/apr/17/facebook-people-first-ever-mark-zuckerberg-harvardJan 21 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | I was one of Facebook's first users. I shouldn't have trusted Mark Zuckerberg | Facebook | The GuardianJan 21 18:09
karolyi[m]and yet, people kept flocking to FBJan 21 18:10
vZS1_2That's because people can be stupidJan 21 18:10
schestowitz__peer pressureJan 21 18:10
schestowitz__network effectJan 21 18:10
schestowitz__same in MS shithubJan 21 18:10
karolyi[m]yepJan 21 18:10
schestowitz__even if many supposed users ae fakeJan 21 18:10
schestowitz__phantomsJan 21 18:10
schestowitz__like in dating sitesJan 21 18:11
karolyi[m]I got many fake accounts following my initial camouflaged GAB account back in the day... torba also wanted to generate traffic on his siteJan 21 18:11
karolyi[m]so it goes both ways, centralized tech that gets under control of a top-down structureJan 21 18:12
vZS1_2I can SSH into someone's server and drop them a PGP-encrypted file. Nobody knows what happened. No metadata.Jan 21 18:13
vZS1_2That guy is a fucking trollJan 21 18:13
karolyi[m]<vZS1_2 "I can SSH into someone's server "> again, he talks about centralized messaging with e2e Jan 21 18:13
vZS1_2"wolf", "sheep", nonsense. Pandering to edgy teenagers maybe not people who know what they're doing.Jan 21 18:13
vZS1_2That's not real encryption. They have your keys.Jan 21 18:14
karolyi[m]you take it out of context, and you call him a retard, don't go into preliminary conclusions about him, but I'm not here to shill for him, I just found him recentlyJan 21 18:14
vZS1_2Because this bullshit needs to be ridiculed.Jan 21 18:14
vZS1_2Subtlety doesn't work on the internetJan 21 18:14
karolyi[m]okay then go and make responses to himJan 21 18:14
vZS1_2No need. Just making sure the IRC logs here are bullshit-free. Or the bullshit has been duly ridiculed.Jan 21 18:15
karolyi[m]I mean, as far as I know, he even goes livestreaming fairly often, you could just get into his chat and call him out thereJan 21 18:15
DaemonFC[m]You can see based on the figures for which state got how many vaccine doses and what the population is in that state, that Trump doled out more doses to red states. Sure, vaccine doses in his spoils system because why not. Well, no more of that.Jan 21 18:15
vZS1_2"you call him a retard"Jan 21 18:15
vZS1_2I called him a troll. Jan 21 18:15
vZS1_2Not a retardJan 21 18:15
karolyi[m]<DaemonFC[m] "You can see based on the figures"> I'm no american but I wouldn't take any of that mRNA "vaccine", which it isn'tJan 21 18:16
schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: what vaccine? OOOH. the clinical trials.Jan 21 18:17
schestowitz__Maybe it'll work out for them.Jan 21 18:17
schestowitz__we'll know in a few years if not soonerJan 21 18:17
schestowitz__efficacy know firstJan 21 18:17
karolyi[m]it's not even a vaccine in the classical sense. the only similarity is, it gets injected to the target's bodyJan 21 18:17
schestowitz__when we have some statistical data, which the state will hide if it's still pushing thisJan 21 18:17
karolyi[m]in my eyes, whoever is forcing these "vaccines" is forcing a population wide genocideJan 21 18:18
schestowitz__we don't know yetJan 21 18:18
vZS1_2We don't get trial results until the middle of the year.Jan 21 18:18
schestowitz__but FDA expedited itJan 21 18:18
karolyi[m]let me pull up something... just a secJan 21 18:18
schestowitz__with Trump's helpJan 21 18:18
vZS1_2We'll see which vaccines work by thenJan 21 18:18
vZS1_2Right now we have conjecture and nothing elseJan 21 18:18
schestowitz__markrting by BBCJan 21 18:18
schestowitz__bribed by the vaccine stakeholersJan 21 18:19
schestowitz__"grandpa took X, did not die, X must be good, sign up for X"Jan 21 18:19
karolyi[m]it's somewhat offtopic re tech, but since we're talking about it: https://drive.google.com/file/d/169bDubnhyopohQmg8-WRmvEjYjpSwEPs/viewJan 21 18:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-drive.google.com | Dr Lee Merrit Interview.mp4 - Google DriveJan 21 18:19
schestowitz__you don't need to go far back for cautionary tales https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/23/asia/faulty-vaccine-china-intl/index.htmlJan 21 18:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Outrage in China over thousands of faulty vaccines for children - CNNJan 21 18:19
schestowitz__of course CNN is just "antivaxxer"Jan 21 18:19
karolyi[m]and then there's another one: https://www.bitchute.com/video/Dxjp6nkwhWn8/Jan 21 18:19
schestowitz__https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/16/asia/china-vaccine-scandal-doses-intl/index.htmlJan 21 18:20
vZS1_2Interviews are not official trial reportsJan 21 18:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bitchute.com | Professor Dolores Cahill: Why People Will Start DYING A Few Months After The First mRNA VaccinationJan 21 18:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Number of faulty children's vaccines in China surges to over 900,000 - CNNJan 21 18:20
schestowitz__when it comes to china, cnn is "antivaxxer"Jan 21 18:20
schestowitz__those are not American(R) productsJan 21 18:20
karolyi[m]<vZS1_2 "Interviews are not official tria"> nobody claimed that.Jan 21 18:20
schestowitz__Russia's Sputnik-V is also being ridiculedJan 21 18:20
schestowitz__though I saw no evidence it's any worse than ViagraCompany/Moderna and Ox/AZJan 21 18:20
karolyi[m]still, worth watching these videos, pretty scarytJan 21 18:21
karolyi[m] * still, worth watching these videos, pretty scaryJan 21 18:21
DaemonFC[m]It seems to me that Russia's vaccine would be at least comparable to the Oxford one.Jan 21 18:21
vZS1_2Better to not waste time and wait for the official trial reports. All of which are public.Jan 21 18:21
DaemonFC[m]But the comedians all started in on it comparing it to the Russian athlete dosing scandal and ricin umbrellas.Jan 21 18:21
schestowitz__very big trialJan 21 18:21
schestowitz__hundreds of millionsJan 21 18:21
karolyi[m]<vZS1_2 "Better to not waste time and wai"> well then you might wait for 2 years until mass deaths start to happen ...Jan 21 18:22
schestowitz__https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/18/health/covid-vaccine-pfizer-deaths-norway-intl/index.htmlJan 21 18:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Norway reviewing Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine deaths of frail and elderly patients - CNNJan 21 18:22
schestowitz__don't panicJan 21 18:22
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, they did not treat the ones from the US and UK like this, even though they're probably equally good or bad. We just don't know yet.Jan 21 18:22
schestowitz__just give it to childrenJan 21 18:22
schestowitz__who don't face much risk from it anywayJan 21 18:22
DaemonFC[m]So speculating that the Russian vaccine is worse is slanted journalism at the least.Jan 21 18:22
schestowitz__https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n167Jan 21 18:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Covid-19: Doctors in Norway told to assess severely frail patients for vaccination | The BMJJan 21 18:22
vZS1_2That's how science works. Right now you have bullshit and conjecture.Jan 21 18:22
DaemonFC[m]Outright shilling at worst. Jan 21 18:22
schestowitz__norwars... f'ing third world countryJan 21 18:22
schestowitz__"antivaxxers"Jan 21 18:22
karolyi[m]well, sure you need a "vaccine" against something that's less deadly than the flu ...Jan 21 18:23
DaemonFC[m]There's no reason to be confident in any COVID vaccine being produced or given at this time. It's just potentially less dangerous to people who are in extreme danger from the virus itself, relatively speaking.Jan 21 18:24
DaemonFC[m]It gets in nursing homes and 35% of them die. Why not start there?Jan 21 18:24
vZS1_2>karolyi[m] well, sure you need a "vaccine" against something that's less deadly than theJan 21 18:24
vZS1_2flu...Jan 21 18:24
vZS1_2Hold up for a fucking secondJan 21 18:24
vZS1_2Are you trying to say the pandemic is fake?Jan 21 18:24
karolyi[m]uh ohJan 21 18:24
DaemonFC[m]It's not fake, it's just not extremely dangerous to people who are not old.Jan 21 18:24
DaemonFC[m]Compared to other viral diseases.Jan 21 18:25
DaemonFC[m]It's hardly pleasant though, so I'm still using sensible precautions to avoid it.Jan 21 18:25
vZS1_2First you go on about some hack that doesn't know how security works now you go on about "Covid is less deadly than the flu"Jan 21 18:25
vZS1_2What exactly is your agenda here?Jan 21 18:25
DaemonFC[m]Obeying the law, masks, handwashing. Nobody gets killed because of handwashing. Why not?Jan 21 18:25
DaemonFC[m]But the vaccines that are being promoted. I don't think lots of people will fall over dead in waves from them.Jan 21 18:26
karolyi[m]well even if it's not less deadly, we're hardly at spanish flu levels, but hey, let's kill the entire economy, and drive people into suicide with the lockdowns and losing their income I guessJan 21 18:26
schestowitz__flu is dangerousJan 21 18:27
DaemonFC[m]But that's not to say that there aren't or won't be reactions that are just not worth it for many people.Jan 21 18:27
schestowitz__but we have flu vaccinesJan 21 18:27
schestowitz__and they are effectiveJan 21 18:27
schestowitz__for covid we just have a bunch of large-scale trialsJan 21 18:27
schestowitz__and Norway reports the worst case scenaria resultsJan 21 18:27
schestowitz__namely that the highest risk group is intolerantJan 21 18:27
DaemonFC[m]This is stuff that could be in the labs for 10 years and would be if it wasn't a global emergency.Jan 21 18:27
karolyi[m]<vZS1_2 "What exactly is your agenda here"> hey, turn the paranoia down a bitJan 21 18:27
vZS1_2It's entirely justified. You just made light of a global pandemicJan 21 18:28
schestowitz__vZS1_2: he supports s/w freedomJan 21 18:28
schestowitz__vaccines aren't our main topic hereJan 21 18:28
schestowitz__flu kills many old people, but would be far worse in winter if we did not administer flu vaccinesJan 21 18:28
DaemonFC[m]If COVID wasn't sweeping over the world population killing millions of people, there wouldn't be a rushed vaccine that skipped the normal development and review process.Jan 21 18:28
vZS1_2Because we have plenty of corporate trolls in this channelJan 21 18:28
schestowitz__flu had been around for a very long timeJan 21 18:28
vZS1_2Trying to defame TRJan 21 18:28
DaemonFC[m]Not even the flu vaccines were rushed like this.Jan 21 18:28
schestowitz__vZS1_2: this one is not itJan 21 18:29
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DaemonFC[m]And flu has been a serious problem for hundreds of years.Jan 21 18:29
schestowitz__it's not a trollJan 21 18:29
karolyi[m]data is pretty solid about taking vitamin D and being healthy, and that there's a vast difference between dying from and with itJan 21 18:29
schestowitz__vZS1_2: did not defame TR, spoke highly of it (scroll up)Jan 21 18:29
karolyi[m]wot?Jan 21 18:29
vZS1_2You can make a good comment and then make a bad one.Jan 21 18:29
vZS1_2People will highlight the bad oneJan 21 18:29
karolyi[m]defaming what? :D dude like I said, turn the paranoia down a bitJan 21 18:29
DaemonFC[m]Well, to be counted as a COVID death it has to be a serious contributing factor.Jan 21 18:29
vZS1_2This is how they got RMS, schestowitz__Jan 21 18:29
schestowitz__vZS1_2: this one is not discrediting usJan 21 18:30
DaemonFC[m]There are people with heart problems who would have lived 15 more years, but they got COVID, it damaged their heart more, and now they're dead.Jan 21 18:30
schestowitz__you got upset for the comparison to fluJan 21 18:30
karolyi[m]schestowitz__: you've been "gotten"? by whom?Jan 21 18:30
schestowitz__which I don't agree with, eitherJan 21 18:30
schestowitz__flu is harder to passsJan 21 18:30
schestowitz__and we have vaccines and even treatments for itJan 21 18:30
schestowitz__bbiabJan 21 18:30
vZS1_2I'm not upset I'm just making sure we are clear that nobody here is denying that there's a pandemicJan 21 18:31
DaemonFC[m]Dick Cheney's heart was so far gone 15 years ago he'd just have been dead then had he been one of us normal folks with no or crappy health insurance.Jan 21 18:31
DaemonFC[m]If he gets COVID, he's probably fucked though.Jan 21 18:31
vZS1_2Anyway, this is off topic.Jan 21 18:31
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karolyi[m]a worldwide spread of a new corona strain, that is just that, a new strain. immunity will be had for it, and while it mutates, it also becomes less and less severeJan 21 18:32
DaemonFC[m]I agree that this is going to be a problem that would naturally be less severe after an initial horrible 2-3 years, but damn it's going to be bad.Jan 21 18:33
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DaemonFC[m]Deaths will let up quite a lot after this is over, for several years, because it pushed so many people to an early death.Jan 21 18:33
karolyi[m]I've been reading articles about this shit since it started, to be on the clear, and initially I sided with the lockdowns until data came in after 2 or 3 weeks that started to show that it's way less deadly as it's been forecasted (the quality of those "forecasts" leaves a lot to be desired as well)Jan 21 18:33
DaemonFC[m]The initial forecasts were too low by orders of magnitude.Jan 21 18:34
DaemonFC[m]Either people didn't want to believe it would be very bad or they were carrying water for Trump's re-election campaign.Jan 21 18:34
DaemonFC[m]Trump kept citing a model that showed American deaths would hit a ceiling at 50,000 or so in the entire country and then stop there.Jan 21 18:35
CrystalMathsame here karolyi[m] Jan 21 18:35
karolyi[m]<DaemonFC[m] "The initial forecasts were too l"> there was that UK "data scientist" that predicted about 10x deaths from itJan 21 18:35
DaemonFC[m]Instead, we've almost lost the entire population of Wyoming already with no end in sight. Jan 21 18:35
CrystalMathat first i thought this was SARSJan 21 18:35
CrystalMaththen i realized it's more like a cold to most peopleJan 21 18:35
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CrystalMathi'm also very hopeful about the new strainJan 21 18:36
CrystalMathi think it could be less deadlyJan 21 18:36
vZS1_2We already have had instances of vaccines being developed quickly. For example: swine flu.Jan 21 18:36
DaemonFC[m]It's tricky. Many people don't realize they have it. It gets serious in about 15% of cases, and about 2-3% of cases end up dying.Jan 21 18:36
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vZS1_2What we are waiting for are the results of the Covid vaccine trials.Jan 21 18:36
DaemonFC[m]But when you're dealing with a country of about 340 million people, 2-3% is a lot of people.Jan 21 18:36
CrystalMathit is possible that lockdowns create softer strainsJan 21 18:37
CrystalMathespecially when done by areaJan 21 18:37
CrystalMathlike in the UKJan 21 18:37
karolyi[m]<DaemonFC[m] "It's tricky. Many people don't r"> about the fatality rate: https://swprs.org/studies-on-covid-19-lethality/Jan 21 18:37
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DaemonFC[m]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/business/economy/unemployment-insurance.htmlJan 21 18:38
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karolyi[m]but to be honest, we're living in a post factual world, facts don't matter anymoreJan 21 18:38
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DaemonFC[m]In 1971, if you lost your job, there was only a 9% chance you were still unemployed 27 weeks later. Now that's a 30% chance.Jan 21 18:38
karolyi[m]there was that nice US unemployment rateJan 21 18:39
DaemonFC[m]But, on average, states only allow 23 weeks of unemployment benefits now, vs. 25 then.Jan 21 18:39
karolyi[m]can't pull it up right now... but the lockdowns did their best, also the biggest wealth redistribution of the world....Jan 21 18:39
CrystalMathfrom the poor to the richJan 21 18:39
CrystalMathdooH niboR as RMS says itJan 21 18:39
DaemonFC[m]The federal "emergency" unemployment stuff is basically an admission that states trying to fund it as an insurance program can't manage that with the types of recessions we have today.Jan 21 18:39
karolyi[m]in my opinion, it's just a technocratic overtaking of society at this point, and the virus is just a means for it... if people will let itJan 21 18:40
karolyi[m]also the fact that the US printed 1/4 of its money last yearJan 21 18:42
karolyi[m]one just has to connect the dotsJan 21 18:42
CrystalMathkarolyi[m]: do you have information on the chinese vaccine,the Sinopharm?Jan 21 18:42
CrystalMathSinopharm BB-somethingJan 21 18:42
vZS1_2All I see is a bunch of claims and no citations.Jan 21 18:43
karolyi[m]<vZS1_2 "All I see is a bunch of claims a"> well, you do youJan 21 18:43
CrystalMathi have been recommending that oneJan 21 18:43
CrystalMathBBIBP-CorVJan 21 18:43
karolyi[m]<CrystalMath "karolyi: do you have information"> haven't heard anything about it, I've been only focusing on that mRNA vaccine and the disastrous claims about itJan 21 18:43
CrystalMathit has an 80% efficiency rate and is NOT based on mRNA alteringJan 21 18:43
karolyi[m]I sure won't take anything, other than vitaminesJan 21 18:43
CrystalMathkarolyi[m]: i Jan 21 18:44
CrystalMathjust wonderJan 21 18:44
karolyi[m]problem is, that will make me a second class citizenJan 21 18:44
karolyi[m]but I guess I'll have to roll with itJan 21 18:44
CrystalMathif i get pressured to take one (we have a guaranteed choice, and Sinopharm is a choice)Jan 21 18:44
CrystalMathi certainly would not take the Pfizer, not even if they put a gun to my headJan 21 18:44
CrystalMaththe Sputnik-V... maybe, but it would be a biological experiment to do soJan 21 18:45
vZS1_2>karolyi[m] <vZS1_2 "All I see is a bunch of claims a"> well, you do youJan 21 18:45
CrystalMathi think BBIBP-CorV might be safe and effective thoughJan 21 18:45
vZS1_2Thanks for making clear your agenda. To the block list you go.Jan 21 18:45
karolyi[m]<CrystalMath "if i get pressured to take one ("> to be honest, I'm healthy and in the recent years when I've been taking vitamines and supplements on the daily (and also lost a bunch of weight), I'm super healthy. the flu passes through me in 2 or 3 days, that took 2 or 3 weeks beforeJan 21 18:45
CrystalMathkarolyi[m]: i mean because of my jobJan 21 18:45
CrystalMatha job that i have to leave in 2 years anyway, though... so...Jan 21 18:46
CrystalMathmaybe it's not worth taking a potentially dangerous vaccine forJan 21 18:46
karolyi[m]what's your job?Jan 21 18:46
CrystalMathteaching-relatedJan 21 18:46
karolyi[m]ah, yes... then you have to meet peopleJan 21 18:46
CrystalMathbut it's on a limited contractJan 21 18:46
CrystalMathit cannot be further renewed, so, i have 2 years leftJan 21 18:47
CrystalMathafter that i intend to become a system administratorJan 21 18:47
karolyi[m]I work from home for the most time as an IT guy, and I already live as a hermit so it didn't really affect me, but I was trying to stand up for other people, and in return I got called namesJan 21 18:47
CrystalMathi totally agree with youJan 21 18:48
CrystalMatheverything you said sounds quite rightJan 21 18:48
karolyi[m]honestly, it's just my 2 cents but I wouldn't even give a chance in compromising my health with vaccinesJan 21 18:48
CrystalMathbut you seem more organized and pull information up faster than i doJan 21 18:48
karolyi[m]<CrystalMath "but you seem more organized and "> not really true... I binge on this stuff (the virus and the technocratic agenda) and I try to seek out and associate with freedom minded peopleJan 21 18:49
karolyi[m]in my opinion it's the only wayJan 21 18:50
DaemonFC[m]Texas threatened a bunch of lawsuits, but lawsuits against a president's agenda usually don't work.Jan 21 18:50
DaemonFC[m]Even when it's poorly conceived tripe that was written without consulting the Office of Legal Counsel, like Trump's.Jan 21 18:50
DaemonFC[m]Remember he just kept editing the so-called Muslim ban until it complied with the court order.Jan 21 18:51
DaemonFC[m]Made no sense as policy, but neither did the first two versions. It exempted very dangerous regions, where Trump had businesses.Jan 21 18:51
DaemonFC[m]And the Saudis, which were the perpetrators of 9/11.Jan 21 18:51
DaemonFC[m]And Chechnya, where the Tsarnaev brothers came from.Jan 21 18:51
karolyi[m]DaemonFC: to be honest, I think trump and biden are just two puppets... people have to learn to organize with each other, at this point in my opinion the government is just a roadblock to thatJan 21 18:52
schestowitz__'lesser puppet"Jan 21 18:53
schestowitz__like "lesser evilism"Jan 21 18:53
schestowitz__maybe we can play with words a bitJan 21 18:53
karolyi[m]lesser puppet as in who?Jan 21 18:53
schestowitz__"lesser NATO"Jan 21 18:53
schestowitz__"lesser Wall Street"Jan 21 18:53
karolyi[m]politics is just bread and circus for the masses, imoJan 21 18:53
DaemonFC[m]If you had oil or a Trump building/resort, you weren't on the travel ban. And neither were people from very dangerous parts of Russia where the Russian government has little control.Jan 21 18:54
DaemonFC[m]So it was effectively swiss cheese. Countries that never attacked us went on the list because it threw red meat at the racist idiots.Jan 21 18:54
schestowitz__monarchy is worse than politicsJan 21 18:54
schestowitz__politics is the "lesser evil"Jan 21 18:54
schestowitz__also wrt anarchismJan 21 18:55
DaemonFC[m]Countries that did attack us and posed an ongoing threat got exemptions.Jan 21 18:55
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DaemonFC[m]Trump was an echo of several failed presidents all rolled into one.Jan 21 18:56
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karolyi[m]schestowitz__: that guy who blocked me told you've "gotten" by someone? what happened?Jan 21 18:56
DaemonFC[m]The idea of a Washington outsider plays well, but they never get a lot done with Congress.Jan 21 18:57
DaemonFC[m]Doesn't help when you're hurling insults and threats at both parties though. :)Jan 21 18:57
techrights-botFRAND is no friend of anyone but the lawyers who sponsor this site https://www.managingip.com/article/b1q6rx27h2wgdc/anti-anti-suit-injunctions-create-risky-frand-playing-fields see http://techrights.org/2020/07/10/frand-sep-scam/Jan 21 18:58
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DaemonFC[m]There's precisely zero chance that if things take a little while in the House for some reason that Biden will get on Twitter and start calling Pelosi weak and stupid.Jan 21 18:58
DaemonFC[m]Trump went there with Paul Ryan, especially after Trumpdon'tcare went down in flames under a Republican majority.Jan 21 18:58
CrystalMathbut someone must challenge that crappy two-party systemJan 21 18:59
DaemonFC[m]All of the Trumpdon'tcare-lite executive actions are going to go away for sure.Jan 21 18:59
MinceRCrystalMath: so who does?Jan 21 18:59
DaemonFC[m]And the House and Senate will probably finally pass some Fix Obamacare amendments that are years overdue.Jan 21 18:59
DaemonFC[m]So I believe that things are only looking up as far as access to health care from where we are right now.Jan 21 19:00
techrights-bot"There are FAR too many litigators that hold anti-patent views and the use of the label of “patent attorney” for mere litigators gives these folk too much cache for their anti-patent views." NOPE! Those are people who are CONSCIOUS. https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/01/doug-emhoff-attorney.htmlJan 21 19:00
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DaemonFC[m]Trump spent years undermining the law with religious exemptions, junk insurance....Things the law was meant to ban.Jan 21 19:00
CrystalMathwell i don't see what's bad about religious exemptionsJan 21 19:01
CrystalMathafter all, most things religions asked to be exempted from should not exist at allJan 21 19:01
DaemonFC[m]Birth control?Jan 21 19:01
techrights-botThe New Humanitarian | South #Sudan ’s precarious peace agreement ⇨ https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/news-feature/2021/01/21/south-sudan-peace-deal-violence-famine •●• #thenewhumanitarianJan 21 19:01
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DaemonFC[m]They should get to decide if their employees get birth control?Jan 21 19:01
CrystalMathDaemonFC[m]: what??Jan 21 19:01
DaemonFC[m]Trump made that such a problem that there's a company that's worked around it already.Jan 21 19:02
MinceR21 200121 < CrystalMath> after all, most things religions asked to be exempted from should not exist at allJan 21 19:02
MinceRin that case, whatever they're supposed to be exempted from shouldn't existJan 21 19:02
DaemonFC[m]They're advertising $15 a month birth control and video visits with the doctor on an app if you're uninsured, or free with insurance.Jan 21 19:02
MinceRthey shouldn't get special rights because they're members of a cultJan 21 19:02
CrystalMathMinceR: everybody should have those rights, like the right to refuse treatment for exampleJan 21 19:02
CrystalMathif you believe prayer is going to heal you instead of a hospital, it's your choiceJan 21 19:03
MinceRindeedJan 21 19:03
CrystalMathofc, what *I* care about, is the right to die of a disaease if you want toJan 21 19:03
CrystalMaththat's what i wantJan 21 19:03
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The Green family (Hobby Lobby) is very religious. Abortion is murder, but theft and bribery are not wrong at all. Read the bible, atheist scum!Jan 21 19:03
techrights-botThere's no such thing as "AYE PEE" and the things they allude to are not rights. This also contains some #UPC propaganda, as one might expect from #litigation profiteers. https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/analysis/what-eu-uk-trade-agreement-ip-rightsJan 21 19:03
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CrystalMathDaemonFC[m]: okay so i didn't understand the extent this goes toJan 21 19:03
CrystalMathyou're saying they fire people for using birth control?Jan 21 19:04
MinceRDaemonFC[m]: neither is slavery or the rape of unmarried femalesJan 21 19:04
DaemonFC[m]They were fighting to get out of having to cover birth control in private insurance policies their employees were getting, even though birth control coverage was required by law.Jan 21 19:04
DaemonFC[m]Some states reversed Trump by requiring it with state laws.Jan 21 19:05
DaemonFC[m]Illinois did.Jan 21 19:05
CrystalMathahJan 21 19:05
schestowitz__[18:56] <karolyi[m]> schestowitz__: that guy who blocked me told you've "gotten" by someone? what happened?Jan 21 19:05
CrystalMathwow, guess under Trump religious people had more power than i thoughutJan 21 19:05
CrystalMath*thoughtJan 21 19:05
DaemonFC[m]They "believe" that a birth control pill = abortion.Jan 21 19:05
DaemonFC[m]It's abortion because they believe, you know. That's how facts work.Jan 21 19:06
schestowitz__many people blocked, but only on a personal basis, we never ban or censorJan 21 19:06
schestowitz__if birth control pill is like abortion than spilling "seeds" outside the "thing" is also abortionJan 21 19:06
schestowitz__and so is abstinence Jan 21 19:07
karolyi[m]<schestowitz__ "many people blocked, but only on"> no, you misunderstood, I'm fine with him blocking me, I don't care :) what I wanted to ask is that he talked about you that you've been "gotten" by someone, as in something similar happened to you than with RMS?Jan 21 19:07
schestowitz__not sure Jan 21 19:07
schestowitz__why is abortion the topic here?Jan 21 19:07
schestowitz__even more offtopic than covidJan 21 19:07
karolyi[m]no idea, there was a politics tirade, that went into it, I stopped readingJan 21 19:08
schestowitz__covid is biology/science, abortion debates are usually boiling down to religious nonsenseJan 21 19:08
karolyi[m]sorry for talking about covid btwJan 21 19:08
schestowitz__better to talk about tech imho, as there are many things that might be interesting but not constructive to future articles we publishJan 21 19:08
schestowitz__we spoke about privacy and ipfs and browsers earlierJan 21 19:09
karolyi[m]there is an article I made guys pin in telegram groups (bridged to matrix), I find it pretty apt: https://pocketnow.com/stop-being-naive-when-it-comes-to-things-like-whatsapp-telegram-signal-etcJan 21 19:11
karolyi[m]maybe you want to have a read throughJan 21 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stop being naive when it comes to things like WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, etc. | PocketnowJan 21 19:11
DaemonFC[m]Trump's Most Favored Nation Medicare rule was enjoined by a federal judge, who noted that most of the savings that it claimed were on page 184 of the rule, and would be due to people who lost access to their medicine because of the rule.Jan 21 19:11
techrights-botHow to pollute and destroy #universities with their (originally) scientific/scholarly/research agenda, turning them into greenhouses for #patenttrolls , #robberbarons , and #plutocracy https://www.managingip.com/article/b1q6wnpdc4v9rg/in-house-new-university-patent-pool-will-ease-licensing-effortsJan 21 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | In-house: new university patent pool will ease licensing efforts | Managing Intellectual PropertyJan 21 19:11
DaemonFC[m]https://www.medpagetoday.com/practicemanagement/reimbursement/90588Jan 21 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.medpagetoday.com | Medicare's 'Most Favored Nation' Drug-Pricing Rule in Limbo | MedPage TodayJan 21 19:11
techrights-botCorrupt #epo and #patents on plugs https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/munich-court-challenges-german-practice-in-pi-proceedings/ "However, the Düsseldorf patent judges continue to issue PIs in exceptional cases."Jan 21 19:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Munich court challenges German practice in PI proceedings - JUVE PatentJan 21 19:12
techrights-bot#BSDNow 386: Aye, 386! https://www.bsdnow.tv/386 #unix #bsdJan 21 19:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bsdnow.tv | BSD Now 386: Aye, 386!Jan 21 19:16
karolyi[m]well, FreeBSD is my jam, although I know it's not completely opensourceJan 21 19:16
karolyi[m]but in my practice, where linux servers died, BSDs went strongJan 21 19:17
techrights-botThe @Brave First Browser to Include #IPFS Protocol http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146689#comment-27900Jan 21 19:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Brave Browser Adds Native Support for Decentralized IPFS Protocol | Tux MachinesJan 21 19:18
schestowitz__karolyi[m]: freebsd uses ms shitehubJan 21 19:21
schestowitz__and there are several others issues, so if I went to a bsd for some purpose, probably openbsdJan 21 19:21
schestowitz__openbsd are more into 'free'(dom)Jan 21 19:21
schestowitz__than freebsdJan 21 19:21
schestowitz__they need to swap namesJan 21 19:21
schestowitz__freebsd is full of people who are into 'open source'... like working for apple one day, then the 'open' stuff the other dayJan 21 19:22
karolyi[m]btw recently I was learning Arduino for a device that runs on it, interesting conceptJan 21 19:22
karolyi[m]and then I looked into PLC as an alternative, and realized that Arduino came to be because it's not proprietaryJan 21 19:22
schestowitz__and now freebsd wants to remove all gpl-licensed stuffJan 21 19:22
schestowitz__yeah, cause to hell with freedomJan 21 19:22
schestowitz__they want licences that make 'free' stuff to add to proprietary OSesJan 21 19:22
schestowitz__Arduino is mostly OKJan 21 19:23
schestowitz__they had some management crisis, iirc, then removed the culpritJan 21 19:23
schestowitz__some people judge success by nothing but money and so they compromise and derail projects for short-term and illusionary gainsJan 21 19:24
schestowitz__seems like elasticsearch is the latestJan 21 19:24
karolyi[m]total newcomer to Arduino, but I'll use it to automate the shit outta my houseJan 21 19:25
karolyi[m]what's FreeBSD's issue with GPL, that the source can't be closed?Jan 21 19:25
karolyi[m]also for my FreeBSD box, I use a couple proprietary stuff on it in jails, like the teamviewer server we use with people to play gamesJan 21 19:26
karolyi[m]I mean, I kinda like the approach of theirs that they don't go full force wanting to tell others to contribute, but they kinda try to convince them that opensource is betterJan 21 19:26
karolyi[m]FreeBSD, that isJan 21 19:27
karolyi[m]for example I saw in a video that they convinced people from Sony to contribute since Sony engineers started to ask lots of questions about FreeBSD, and then they asked them "can we talk about you sharing your contributions?"Jan 21 19:28
karolyi[m]sorry, teamspeak server, not teamviewer...Jan 21 19:28
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karolyi[m]I mean, if FreeBSD becomes unbearable, I'll change to some bearable version of itJan 21 19:32
techrights-botBig portion here is about #gnu #gimp https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/best-free-drawing-software/Jan 21 19:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | The Best Free Drawing Software | Digital TrendsJan 21 19:33
techrights-bot"SDRs provide me with another of my favourite things about radio, namely that using GNU Radio I now have a general purpose digital signal processing playground." https://hackaday.com/2021/01/21/a-few-of-my-favorite-things-amateur-radio/Jan 21 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Few Of My Favorite Things: Amateur Radio | HackadayJan 21 19:35
Ariadneschestowitz fairly close to having a viable AP server that anyone can manageJan 21 19:35
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techrights-bot#RaspberryPi goes MCU with open-spec Pico http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146707#comment-27901 #gnu #linux #bsdJan 21 19:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Foundation Release Their Own Silicon, the Raspberry Pi Pico | Tux MachinesJan 21 19:38
techrights-botMeeks: " #TDF Advisory Board call. Recorded a collaboration dev-room talk for FOSDEM - fun." http://www.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2021-01-20.htmlJan 21 19:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.gnome.org/~michael/blog/2021-01-20.html )Jan 21 19:41
techrights-bot"Firstly, we have the GNU Make book. With GNU being the most widely used build automation tool, its challenging nature and terse language can be enough to put anyone to task" https://www.elektormagazine.com/news/no-kidding-elektor-adds-no-starch-books-to-product-lineJan 21 19:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.elektormagazine.com | No kidding! Elektor adds No-Starch books to product line | Elektor MagazineJan 21 19:42
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/726155.pngJan 21 19:49
techrights-botThis is FUD and not about "Linux"; it's about unpatched programs that have nothing to do with #Linux , but they ascribe guilt by association (human error/negligence https://www.govinfosecurity.com/freakout-botnet-targets-unpatched-linux-systems-a-15814Jan 21 19:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.govinfosecurity.com | 'FreakOut' Botnet Targets Unpatched Linux SystemsJan 21 19:52
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techrights-botOh. My. Lord. #mozilla now resorting to mindless #greenwashing ... they have NO CLUE how to salvage themselves https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2021/01/21/mozillas-climate-commitments/Jan 21 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Mozilla’s Climate Commitments - The Mozilla BlogJan 21 19:55
karolyi[m]greenwashing :DJan 21 19:55
techrights-bot#Mozilla Addons Blog: Promoted Add-ons Pilot Wrap-up https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2021/01/21/promoted-add-ons-pilot-wrap-up/Jan 21 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Promoted Add-ons Pilot Wrap-up | Mozilla Add-ons BlogJan 21 19:56
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schestowitz__[19:35] <Ariadne> schestowitz fairly close to having a viable AP server that anyone can manageJan 21 19:57
schestowitz__:-DJan 21 19:57
schestowitz__I was thinking about your project an hour agoJan 21 19:57
schestowitz__thinking what to do about my links in sites to pleroma.siteJan 21 19:57
schestowitz__and whether you might take back that domainJan 21 19:57
schestowitz__seeing href is making false promises to me for 2 monthsJan 21 19:57
schestowitz__maybe that domain can be used with other softwareJan 21 19:58
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/WpixMra.jpgJan 21 19:59
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NarratorreJan 21 20:01
techrights-botMeet Pico: Raspberry Pi’s First Microcontroller Device http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146707#comment-27903 #raspi #gnu #linuxJan 21 20:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Foundation Release Their Own Silicon, the Raspberry Pi Pico | Tux MachinesJan 21 20:02
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techrights-bot"Doing everything in a terminal window isn't just about speed or feeling empowered." #gnu #linux https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcaRTx7DsV0Jan 21 20:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The REAL Reason Linux Users Love The Command Line - YouTubeJan 21 20:05
techrights-botWelcome #RaspberryPi to the world of microcontrollers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146707#comment-27905 #raspi #gnu #linuxJan 21 20:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Foundation Release Their Own Silicon, the Raspberry Pi Pico | Tux MachinesJan 21 20:07
techrights-bot"As a member of Mozilla’s fuzzing team, our job is not only to find bugs, but to do what we can to help get those bugs fixed as quickly as possible." https://hacks.mozilla.org/2021/01/analyzing-bugzilla-testcases-with-bugmon/Jan 21 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hacks.mozilla.org | Analyzing Bugzilla Testcases with Bugmon - Mozilla Hacks - the Web developer blogJan 21 20:11
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techrights-botWhat is Your Choice After Switching from #WhatsApp ? https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2021/01/what-is-your-choice-after-switching-from-whatsapp.htmlJan 21 20:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntubuzz.com | What is Your Choice After Switching from WhatsApp?Jan 21 20:17
techrights-botAudiocasts/Shows: CLI, #BSDNow , #CoderRadio and TLLTS • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146721 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 21 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: CLI, BSD Now, Coder Radio and TLLTS | Tux MachinesJan 21 20:18
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techrights-bot#Zora P1 #Amlogic A311D Development Board targets Android and #GNU #Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146444#comment-27908Jan 21 20:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Another New Linux Development Board and Open Hardware | Tux MachinesJan 21 20:27
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techrights-botKathy Rain: Director's Cut announced and will support Linux | GamingOnLinux ⇨ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/kathy-rain-directors-cut-announced-and-will-support-linux •●• #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games #GamingJan 21 20:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kathy Rain: Director's Cut announced and will support Linux | GamingOnLinuxJan 21 20:28
karolyi[m]<TechrightsBot-tr "www.tuxmachines.org | Another Ne"> is it opensource hw?Jan 21 20:29
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DaemonFC[m]<techrights-bot "Oh. My. Lord. #mozilla now resor"> They were bragging about how great the Mac M1 is on their blog the other day.Jan 21 20:29
schestowitz__yes awfulJan 21 20:30
schestowitz__they aim for mac cultists like themselvesJan 21 20:30
karolyi[m]when the left hand doesn't know what the right does, a typical case of huge corpJan 21 20:30
schestowitz__I saw worseJan 21 20:30
schestowitz__Apple dot NOT preinstall FirefoxJan 21 20:30
schestowitz__GNU/LINUX distros DOJan 21 20:30
techrights-bot"Developed by Yokereba Games, this is a "first-class" #GNU #Linux game developed by a long time Linux user who mentioned how they "consider it a Linux-first game since most of my testing was done on my main machine"." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/jumpala-is-an-intense-score-fighting-highly-competitive-action-platformer-out-nowJan 21 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jumpala is an intense score-fighting highly competitive action-platformer out now | GamingOnLinuxJan 21 20:30
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techrights-botGames: Godot Engine, Space Otter Charlie, Kathy Rain: Director’s Cut, Stadia and More • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146722 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #games #gamingJan 21 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Godot Engine, Space Otter Charlie, Kathy Rain: Director's Cut, Stadia and More | Tux MachinesJan 21 20:35
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DaemonFC[m]Trump's fake history commission is dissolved.Jan 21 20:39
DaemonFC[m]Their final report sounded like one of my dad's rants about black people on a long car ride circa 1995.Jan 21 20:39
techrights-botMozilla: Bugs, Fuzzing, Promoted Add-ons Pilot Wrap-up, Greenwashing, and Tor Browser 10.5a7 • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146723 •●• #mozilla #firefox #wwwJan 21 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla: Bugs, Fuzzing, Promoted Add-ons Pilot Wrap-up, Greenwashing, and Tor Browser 10.5a7 | Tux MachinesJan 21 20:42
techrights-bot#microsoft booster: How a #GNU #Linux migration led to the creation of #Amazon Web Services https://www.networkworld.com/article/3604370/how-a-linux-migration-led-to-the-creation-of-amazon-web-services.htmlJan 21 20:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | How a Linux migration led to the creation of Amazon Web Services | Network WorldJan 21 20:44
*psydroid wonders how long it will take for Mozilla Corp to declare financial bankruptcy and for how long the Mozilla Foundation will continue after thatJan 21 20:45
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techrights-bot#HowTo Plot Unix Directory Structure Using #Python Graphviz ⇨ https://www.nbshare.io/notebook/745848606/How-To-Plot-Unix-Directory-Structure-Using-Python-Graphviz/ •●• #nbshare #gnu #linux #unixJan 21 20:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbshare.io | How To Plot Unix Directory Structure Using Python GraphvizJan 21 20:47
techrights-botToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146724 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 21 20:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJan 21 20:49
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schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: it's history!Jan 21 20:54
DaemonFC[m]> * <@psydroid:matrix.org> wonders how long it will take for Mozilla Corp to declare financial bankruptcy and for how long the Mozilla Foundation will continue after thatJan 21 20:55
DaemonFC[m]Normally you spend down enough assets that the creditors can't get anything and then file bankruptcy.Jan 21 20:55
DaemonFC[m]They don't seem to be in serious debt. They mostly seem to be dealing with dwindling revenues.Jan 21 20:56
DaemonFC[m]Right now they deal with it by making layoffs that will make Firefox impossible to maintain in the future and letting leases expire and selling their headquarters.Jan 21 20:56
DaemonFC[m]Once mass layoffs start at a company, it's the beginning of the end. CEOs will spin it with word like "efficiency" and "readjustment to meet the needs of our company" or "a pivot", but when they start talking like that, it's over.Jan 21 20:58
techrights-bot#Adobe #Illustrator Alternatives for Linux and More Alternatives • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146725 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 21 20:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Adobe Illustrator Alternatives for Linux and More Alternatives | Tux MachinesJan 21 20:59
DaemonFC[m]There's no actual press releases of Microsoft hiring thousands of people in any of their divisions., just "efficiency", "pivoting", and "readjustment to meet the needs of the company".Jan 21 20:59
DaemonFC[m]And random numbers that are individually small enough to not grab headlines about the number of layoffs.Jan 21 20:59
DaemonFC[m]If you fire 10,000-15,000 people all at once it's clear your company is in trouble and has been seriously mismanaged.Jan 21 21:00
DaemonFC[m]500-600 at a time ought to do it. That's efficent.Jan 21 21:00
DaemonFC[m]Mozilla has been doing things this way. They won't just fire 3,500 people. They did it in waves of hundreds. Maybe 1,000.Jan 21 21:01
DaemonFC[m]Now half their total employees have been fired without them grabbing headlines that said that happened in one day.Jan 21 21:01
techrights-bot#linuxjournal has expired cert, exposing a #surveillance script going on in the background...Jan 21 21:05
techrights-botLinux 5.11 Is Now Looking Great For #AMD Zen 2 / Zen 3 Performance - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-linux511-fixed&num=1 •●• #Phoronix #Kernel #LinuxJan 21 21:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.11 Is Now Looking Great For AMD Zen 2 / Zen 3 Performance - PhoronixJan 21 21:09
techrights-bot#Fedora Loves #Python 2020 report - Fedora Community Blog ⇨ https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-loves-python-2020-report/ •●• #communityfedoraproject #ibm #RedHatJan 21 21:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Fedora Loves Python 2020 report – Fedora Community BlogJan 21 21:11
techrights-bot#scmagazine trolling #linux again. This is FUD and not about "Linux"; it's about unpatched programs that have nothing to do with Linux, but they ascribe guilt by association (human error/negligence) https://www.scmagazine.com/home/security-news/malware/bot-freakout-leverages-three-critical-vulnerabilities-to-attack-linux-systems/Jan 21 21:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scmagazine.com | Bot ‘FreakOut’ leverages three critical vulnerabilities to attack Linux systems | SC MediaJan 21 21:12
techrights-bot"PDF viewers built into leading web browsers and applications for macOS and Linux were only susceptible to comparatively trivial attacks such as denial of service (DoS)." https://portswigger.net/daily-swig/pwnable-document-format-windows-pdf-viewers-outperformed-by-browser-macos-linux-counterpartsJan 21 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-portswigger.net | Pwnable Document Format: Windows PDF viewers outperformed by browser, macOS, Linux counterparts | The Daily SwigJan 21 21:13
MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/stringsJan 21 21:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - StringsJan 21 21:16
techrights-botRegarding the closure of rt.cpan. http://blogs.perl.org/users/martin_mcgrath/2021/01/regarding-the-closure-of-rtcpan.html #programming #cpan #perlJan 21 21:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Regarding the closure of rt.cpan. | Martin McGrath [blogs.perl.org]Jan 21 21:20
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MinceR(cat) https://i.imgur.com/vwrH3iS.jpegJan 21 21:27
techrights-botWhat is your favorite Linux #scripting or #programming language? | Enable Sysadmin ⇨ https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/favorite-linux-language •●• #RedHat #IBMJan 21 21:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | What is your favorite Linux scripting or programming language? | Enable SysadminJan 21 21:27
techrights-botPeople of WordPress: Thelma Mutete ⇨ https://wordpress.org/news/2021/01/people-of-wordpress-thelma-mutete/ •●• #wordpress #cms #gpl #sharing #freeswJan 21 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-News – People of WordPress: Thelma Mutete – WordPress.orgJan 21 21:28
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psydroid<TechrightsBot-tr "www.redhat.com | What is your fa"> C# on the .NET framework you are promoting these days, of courseJan 21 21:29
MinceR:>Jan 21 21:30
vZS1No wonder they resorted to giving away their distro for freeJan 21 21:34
MinceRstill more expensive than its worthJan 21 21:34
vZS1Yeah. Waste of time trying to use that dumpster fireJan 21 21:35
psydroidI had it installed as my second distro to some day learn container stuffJan 21 21:36
vZS1You can use Docker on any GNU/LinuxJan 21 21:36
psydroidBut it was slow as hell and even dd segfaultedJan 21 21:36
psydroidSo I got rid of it at onceJan 21 21:36
vZS1And you can even forego Docker altogether. Just use the appropriate namespacesJan 21 21:36
MinceRyeah, i'd rather forgo it entirely, as it didn't work well when i attempted itJan 21 21:37
techrights-botBook review: #Copyright and Fundamental Rights in the Digital Age - The IPKat ⇨ http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/book-review-copyright-and-fundamental.html •●• #ipkittenJan 21 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Book review: Copyright and Fundamental Rights in the Digital Age - The IPKatJan 21 21:37
MinceRplus it shares the kernel image between host and containers so containers can make demands of kernel featuresJan 21 21:37
vZS1Well, it's sharing the same kernelJan 21 21:38
vZS1Namespaces aren't VMsJan 21 21:38
schestowitz__[21:29] <psydroid> <TechrightsBot-tr "www.redhat.com | What is your fa"> C# on the .NET framework you are promoting these days, of courseJan 21 21:38
vZS1So you'd have that problemJan 21 21:38
schestowitz__I cannot find where that quote, if any, comes from, psydroidJan 21 21:38
psydroidI wanted to learn about other stuff such as Podman, but now I don't really see the pointJan 21 21:38
schestowitz__podman is ibmJan 21 21:39
schestowitz__vZS1 suggested I install podmanJan 21 21:39
schestowitz__then I realised non-IBM distros are second classJan 21 21:39
schestowitz__even in mainstream distros like DebianJan 21 21:39
schestowitz__so it felt like an IBM trapJan 21 21:39
psydroidschestowitz, spam mail I get from Red Hat about learning .NETJan 21 21:39
schestowitz__same for ansibleJan 21 21:39
schestowitz__psydroid: pls forward to roy at schestowitz comJan 21 21:40
psydroidschestowitz, ok, I will do soJan 21 21:40
vZS1Podman keeps up with kernel faster than Docker. I'm sure IBM will ruin it thoughJan 21 21:40
vZS1Docker took forever to move to cgroups v2Jan 21 21:41
vZS1You had to run Docker as root, to do most things that you'd use Docker forJan 21 21:42
psydroidAnd it has a daemonJan 21 21:42
vZS1YeahJan 21 21:42
techrights-botWTH happened to Liverpool FC?!Jan 21 21:42
psydroidWhich causes actual problems with reliabilityJan 21 21:42
psydroidSo I dismissed it before ever having used itJan 21 21:42
techrights-bot#Security and FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146726 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 21 21:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security and FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) | Tux MachinesJan 21 21:43
vZS1You're better off just learning how to use namespaces.Jan 21 21:43
vZS1If you want isolationJan 21 21:43
vZS1But VMs work just fineJan 21 21:43
psydroidYes, I will do just thatJan 21 21:44
vZS1They're also not insecure. You have people mounting the Docker socket as root. Became common practiceJan 21 21:44
vZS1s/insecure/secure/Jan 21 21:44
psydroidAnd I have been using VMs for a long timeJan 21 21:44
vZS1VMs are much more secure than "containers".Jan 21 21:45
psydroid<techrights-bot "WTH happened to Liverpool FC?!"> 30-year gap until the next championshipJan 21 21:47
MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/tubeJan 21 21:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - TubeJan 21 21:48
psydroidis the whole concept of containers broken and just a way to sell more services on top of GNU/Linux?Jan 21 21:48
MinceRit could probably be less brokenJan 21 21:49
MinceRfor example of docker didn't ignore its own settings and talk to the proxy when it's configured to do soJan 21 21:49
MinceRs/of/if/Jan 21 21:49
MinceRand containers could not use cancerd, requiring all sorts of bloat in the kernelJan 21 21:49
techrights-bot#Programming Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146727 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latestJan 21 21:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 21 21:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsJan 21 21:50
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techrights-botGNU Projects: GNU Make, GNU Radio, and #GIMP • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146728 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latestJan 21 21:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Projects: GNU Make, GNU Radio, and GIMP | Tux MachinesJan 21 21:52
techrights-botFree/Open Source Software Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146729 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freeswJan 21 21:56
psydroidon my 2016-era laptop cancerd often takes up to 90 seconds to fully shut down the systemJan 21 21:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free/Open Source Software Leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 21 21:56
schestowitz__sound rightJan 21 21:57
schestowitz__i had similar issuesJan 21 21:57
schestowitz__only after systemdJan 21 21:57
schestowitz__2009 laptopJan 21 21:57
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schestowitz__psydroid: that's your fault totally!Jan 21 21:58
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schestowitz__for using such an 'old' machineJan 21 21:58
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psydroidhahJan 21 22:01
vZS1They have their usesJan 21 22:02
techrights-bot#Fedora and #RedHat Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146730 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 21 22:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora and Red Hat Leftovers | Tux MachinesJan 21 22:03
karolyi[m]bsd jails > dockerJan 21 22:04
schestowitz__better jail than bailJan 21 22:04
karolyi[m]biddy of mine came swearing to me the other day, about docker... he hates it :)Jan 21 22:05
karolyi[m]*buddyJan 21 22:05
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techrights-botKernel: Restricted DMA and #AMD Work in #Linux 5.11 • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146732 •●• #KernelJan 21 22:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Restricted DMA and AMD Work in Linux 5.11 | Tux MachinesJan 21 22:12
DaemonFC[m]<psydroid "on my 2016-era laptop cancerd of"> Set the timeout for killing hung services to a lower amount.Jan 21 22:12
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vZS1psydroid `$ man unshare` is a good starting pointJan 21 22:14
vZS1For some light readingJan 21 22:14
vZS1On the topicJan 21 22:14
techrights-bot#System76 Brings Back the Darter Pro Linux Laptop with Longer Battery Life, Tiger Lake CPUs • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146731 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latestJan 21 22:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76 Brings Back the Darter Pro Linux Laptop with Longer Battery Life, Tiger Lake CPUs | Tux MachinesJan 21 22:16
techrights-botHow a Linux migration led to the creation of #Amazon Web Services • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146733 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #ServerJan 21 22:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How a Linux migration led to the creation of Amazon Web Services | Tux MachinesJan 21 22:19
techrights-botLinks 21/1/2021: #RaspberryPiPico , #Ubuntu 21.04 Picks #GNOME 3.38, #KDE Plasma 5.21 Beta • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/21/raspberry-pi-pico/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/21/#latestJan 21 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/1/2021: Raspberry Pi Pico, Ubuntu 21.04 Picks GNOME 3.38, KDE Plasma 5.21 Beta | TechrightsJan 21 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsJan 21 22:25
karolyi[m]the letsencrypt guys have built a beast: https://letsencrypt.org/2021/01/21/next-gen-database-servers.htmlJan 21 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-letsencrypt.org | The Next Gen Database Servers Powering Let's Encrypt - Let's Encrypt - Free SSL/TLS CertificatesJan 21 22:25
schestowitz__monopolised almostJan 21 22:26
schestowitz__hosted by a monopoly tooJan 21 22:26
schestowitz__MicrosoftJan 21 22:26
schestowitz__they need to delete the project and their web site from githubJan 21 22:26
techrights-ipfs ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▅▆▅▆▆▅▆▃▆▅▅▆▇▅▅▅▆▅▅▅▄▅▅▄▃▄▃▃▄▅▆▅▃▄▅ avg(k/sec) 24.51 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▃▄▂▁▂▄▅▂▃▄▄▂▅▃▃▃▂▃▂▃▄▄▅▄▂▄▂▄▄▂▃▃▃▃▄ avg(k/sec) 12.63  ⟲Jan 21 22:29
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karolyi[m]so what's the deal with the Intel ME? that's also not opensource...Jan 21 22:36
psydroidwhat do you want to know about it?Jan 21 22:40
karolyi[m]just that the consensus is to be against it, right? although it can't be done much about it other than trying to buy CPUs that don't have that firmware thing that can take over the entire computerJan 21 22:42
psydroidI guess you're rightJan 21 22:43
techrights-botFlowblade: Was It Worth Leaving #Kdenlive - YouTube ⇨ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-iO7Hol6H0 •●• #Video #GNU #LinuxJan 21 22:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Flowblade: Was It Worth Leaving Kdenlive - YouTubeJan 21 22:43
techrights-bot"One of the trickiest things about setting up the #Xmonad tiling window manager is configuring the panel, which for most Xmonad users is Xmobar." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCzuMHU3Qtw #gnu #linuxJan 21 22:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Configuring The Xmobar Panel In Xmonad - YouTubeJan 21 22:45
psydroidor you can actively look for alternatives that have been appearing over the past few yearsJan 21 22:45
karolyi[m]for example?Jan 21 22:45
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psydroidHoneycomb LX2K, Raptor Blackbird/Talos II and the various RISC-V boards that are slowly appearingJan 21 22:47
techrights-bot#System76 reveal the brand new Darter Pro with Intel Xe #graphics and Open #Firmware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146731#comment-27911Jan 21 22:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76 Brings Back the Darter Pro Linux Laptop with Longer Battery Life, Tiger Lake CPUs | Tux MachinesJan 21 22:47
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/Dcv9MwF.jpgJan 21 22:47
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karolyi[m]thanks, will look into thoseJan 21 22:50
techrights-bot"Sometimes, I think it is good to reflect on the the great things we take for granted here in #GNU #Linux land." https://cubiclenate.com/2021/01/21/cups-pdf-print-to-pdf-from-any-application/Jan 21 22:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CUPS-PDF | Print to PDF from any Application – CubicleNate's TechpadJan 21 22:51
MinceRindeedJan 21 22:52
MinceRbecause microshit and ibm might take them away from us this yearJan 21 22:52
MinceRor next yearJan 21 22:52
techrights-bot#RaspberryPi HAT offer NMEA 2000 link for marine applications • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146734 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 21 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi HAT offer NMEA 2000 link for marine applications | Tux MachinesJan 21 22:54
techrights-bot#Seeed launches BeagleV, a $150 #RISCV computer designed to run Linux • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146431#comment-27913 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesJan 21 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Seeed launches BeagleV, a $150 RISC-V computer designed to run Linux | Tux MachinesJan 21 22:58
techrights-bot"The '202 #patent generally relates to a method and system for delivering categorized television programming" https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/1/21/750-awarded-for-contemporary-display-202-prior-art #patents #swpatsJan 21 23:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | $750 Awarded for Contemporary Display '202 Prior Art — Unified PatentsJan 21 23:00
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/2012178Jan 21 23:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5105423)Jan 21 23:16
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