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techrights-newsMicrosoft-Funded ’Analysts’: Microsoft is Popular, Based on Microsoft Data (Projects That Choose Microsoft’s Proprietary Hosting) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/10/20/github-propaganda/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/20/github-propaganda/Oct 21 00:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Funded ‘Analysts’: Microsoft is Popular, Based on Microsoft Data (Projects That Choose Microsoft’s Proprietary Hosting) | TechrightsOct 21 00:00
techrights-newsOpperaing a bubble out of DEBT https://itwire.com/automotive/ev-software-specialist-everty-charged-up-for-the-years-ahead.htmlOct 21 00:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - EV software specialist Everty charged up for the years aheadOct 21 00:02
techrights-news"Here’s a graph of the progression over time – we are headed towards somewhere between 7000 and 8000 games by the end of the year." https://boilingsteam.com/steam-deck-6000-games-playable-verified/Oct 21 00:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Steam Deck: 6000 Games Playable/Verified - Boiling SteamOct 21 00:03
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Ubuntu Touch development - Wanna sponsor ARM64 CPU power for CI build infrastructure? ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/20/Ubuntu_Touch_development_Wanna_sponsor_ARM64_CPU_power_for_CI_b.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/20/Ubuntu_Touch_development_Wanna_sponsor_ARM64_CPU_power_for_CI_b.gmi ∎Oct 21 00:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Ubuntu Touch development - Wanna sponsor ARM64 CPU power for CI build infrastructure?Oct 21 00:11
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techrights-newsSSSSSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOO green that you need laptops and pollution like energy-hungry 'smart' phones... to get done stuff that required NEITHER https://itwire.com/automotive/ev-software-specialist-everty-charged-up-for-the-years-ahead.html like hippie/yuppie BS where they say, "don't print, bad for the planet" (as if using PCs has no impact on the planet)Oct 21 00:13
techrights-newsBanks in UK: check the "apps", no A4 paper... because environment! Excuse me, did you bother checking how much energy is required to produce just one spyphone (shipping, mining, melting etc.) and how much power is needed to keep the darn thing charged all the time? If done on PC with monitor, maybe 50 watts.Oct 21 00:15
techrights-newsTechnofascists love greenwashing. All their nasty crap will "save the planet", they insist. Until one actually fact-checks. There is also a human rights toll, which the media rarely shows (e.g. sweatshops).Oct 21 00:16
techrights-news"HEY HI" is more than 50 years own. Clown computing is even older than this. A lot of what they tell us is "new" and "exciting" is actually very old. They lie to us. They call it "marketing". Touchcreens? 1980s. VR ("metaverse")? 1980s. Self-checkouts and voice recognition could EASILY be done by the 1990s. Nothing new here, just techno-fascistic agenda.Oct 21 00:19
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiOct 21 00:20
techrights-newsA child in the 1980s already saw lots of mobile phones. Yes, they were large and expensive, not many people had them. Adding "smart" to them doesn't make them novel. Also, insisting they're smart because you can add "apps" to them ignores ample prior art from the 1990s.Oct 21 00:21
techrights-newsThe 'tech' industry rapidly became a lying industry. It's particularly bad as it means that liars get promoted to management, chronic liars become top chiefs. These people, in turn, boss honest geeks.Oct 21 00:22
techrights-newsWhen fools tell you "it's just a Ubuntu-based distro" remind them what Ubuntu is. Just some "Debian-based distro". Mark Shuttleworth invented nothing. Right place at the right time, sold a 'certificates mill' and avoided paying his taxes until the state took him to court and won.Oct 21 00:24
techrights-newsMark Shuttleworth basically took Debian and added sex to it to sell his own version of it http://techrights.org/2022/05/15/jeff-waugh-on-mark-shuttleworth/Oct 21 00:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Audio: Mark Shuttleworth Marketed to Young Males, With Sexy Pictures | TechrightsOct 21 00:25
techrights-newsStephen O’Grady and Rachel Stephens, failing to disclose that Microsoft pays them (conflict of interest at Redmonk, as usual), assess programming languages’ popularity using… Microsoft’s own data http://techrights.org/2022/10/20/github-propaganda/Oct 21 00:30
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): This Laptop Runs Android, Not Windows or Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/20/This_Laptop_Runs_Android_Not_Windows_or_Linux.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/20/This_Laptop_Runs_Android_Not_Windows_or_Linux.gmi ∎Oct 21 00:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — This Laptop Runs Android, Not Windows or LinuxOct 21 00:31
techrights-news'Solution' in search of a problem unless you fancy the CIA tracking your mouse cursor, keystrokes etc https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/red-hat-launches-red-hat-enterprise-linux-workstations-awsOct 21 00:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Red Hat Launches Red Hat Enterprise Linux for Workstations on AWSOct 21 00:32
techrights-newsICBM/Red Hat to the community: don't objectify women. ICBM/Red Hat to shareholders: https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/ulta-beauty-standardizes-red-hat-ansible-automation-platform-automation-transformationOct 21 00:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Ulta Beauty Standardizes on Red Hat Ansible Automation Platform for Automation TransformationOct 21 00:34
techrights-newsInstead of compering with Microsoft, Red Hat helps Microsoft push proprietary software and spy on people https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/red-hat-ansible-automation-platform-azure-now-available-microsoft-azure-marketplaceOct 21 00:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Red Hat Ansible Automation Platform on Azure Now Available at Microsoft Azure MarketplaceOct 21 00:35
techrights-newsHEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/red-hat-and-ibm-research-advance-it-automation-ai-powered-capabilities-ansibleOct 21 00:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Red Hat and IBM Research Advance IT Automation with AI-Powered Capabilities for AnsibleOct 21 00:36
techrights-newsICBM: pay us PREMIUMS for all the HEY HIsOct 21 00:37
techrights-newsBefore there were "selfies" ICBM's first chief did this with Hitler http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/watson-article-ibm-medal-from-hitler.pngOct 21 00:39
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Videos: Brodie Robertson, Audacity on Linux Mint, and Story of GCompris ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/20/Videos_Brodie_Robertson_Audacity_on_Linux_Mint_and_Story_of_GCo.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/20/Videos_Brodie_Robertson_Audacity_on_Linux_Mint_and_Story_of_GCo.gmi ∎Oct 21 00:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Videos: Brodie Robertson, Audacity on Linux Mint, and Story of GComprisOct 21 00:44
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Fedora / Red Hat / IBM Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/20/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/20/Fedora_Red_Hat_IBM_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎Oct 21 00:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Fedora / Red Hat / IBM LeftoversOct 21 00:45
DaemonFC * Fri Oct 14 2022 Martin Stransky <stransky@redhat.com>- 106.0-1Oct 21 00:45
DaemonFC- Updated to 106.0Oct 21 00:45
DaemonFC- Disabled PGO build due to rhbz#2136401Oct 21 00:45
DaemonFCFirefox 106 on Fedora has broken Profile Guided Optimization.Oct 21 00:46
DaemonFCschestowitz-TR, ^Oct 21 00:46
schestowitz[TR]ahgOct 21 00:46
DaemonFChttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2136401Oct 21 00:46
resistortitle 42 expulsion was introduced year 1944Oct 21 00:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | 2136401 – Firefox fails to build with PGO - source locations for function XY have changed, the profile data may be out of dateOct 21 00:46
resistorin USAOct 21 00:46
DaemonFChttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1796523Oct 21 00:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.mozilla.org | 1796523 - GCC PGO build fails - source locations for function XY have changed, the profile data may be out of dateOct 21 00:47
resistorand title 42 expulsions are enacted still, several dozens of thousands each yearOct 21 00:47
techrights-newsCPU-X: Linux System Profiling and Monitoring | BIOSLEVEL | Linux Harware Profiling ⚓ https://bioslevel.com/articles/2022/cpux-linux-system-profiling-and-monitoring ䷉ Source: bioslevel | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//bioslevel.com/articles/2022/cpux-linux-system-profiling-and-monitoringOct 21 00:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CPU-X: Linux System Profiling and Monitoring | BIOSLEVEL | Linux Harware ProfilingOct 21 00:49
resistorminor mistake, several dozens of thousands of title 42 expulsuions each monthOct 21 00:49
resistori had not seen this data cited before anywhere ever, instead some arbitrary covid data flooded all over tv screens and newspapers, and no expulsion data mentionedOct 21 00:50
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR], Firefox added a pinned tab now.Oct 21 00:50
DaemonFCAnd changed my color theme without asking.Oct 21 00:51
DaemonFCUghOct 21 00:51
techrights-newsiTWire - In the midst of a major digital mess, ASPI is pushing digital ID. Really? ⚓ https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/in-the-midst-of-a-major-digital-mess,-aspi-is-pushing-digital-id-really.html ䷉ Source: IT WireOct 21 00:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - In the midst of a major digital mess, ASPI is pushing digital ID. Really?Oct 21 00:52
schestowitz[TR]you don't like Firefox?what are you, a nazi?Oct 21 00:54
DaemonFCIt changes my theme to a color, which expires in January.Oct 21 00:55
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): GNU/Linux Software: CPU-X, MAAS, syslog-ng ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/20/GNU_Linux_Software_CPU_X_MAAS_syslog_ng.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/20/GNU_Linux_Software_CPU_X_MAAS_syslog_ng.gmi ∎Oct 21 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — GNU/Linux Software: CPU-X, MAAS, syslog-ngOct 21 00:56
schestowitz[TR]Firefox is all about choicewOct 21 00:56
schestowitz[TR]you can choose all the colours of the rainbowOct 21 00:56
DaemonFChttps://mylegalheat.com/blog/what-is-a-foid-card-everything-you-need-to-know/Oct 21 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mylegalheat.com | What Is A FOID Card - Everything You Need To Know | Legal HeatOct 21 00:56
schestowitz[TR]but cannot have proper themingOct 21 00:57
schestowitz[TR]I made two firefox themesOct 21 00:57
DaemonFC"The People of Illinois" v. Vivian BrownOct 21 00:57
schestowitz[TR]of course they won't work anymoreOct 21 00:57
DaemonFCWell, as a "people of Illinois", I think they should have to let Vivian Brown go.Oct 21 00:57
DaemonFCSo that matters, right? :)Oct 21 00:57
schestowitz[TR]http://schestowitz.com/Software/RoyZilla/Oct 21 00:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | PimpZilla Blue and Firefox Themes Test-bedOct 21 00:57
DaemonFCMinceR, How absolutely arrogant that they frame criminal cases as "The People" v. the defendant.Oct 21 00:57
schestowitz[TR]http://schestowitz.com/Weblog_Frames/firefoxmac.pngOct 21 00:58
DaemonFCEspecially in a highly charged case where half the people would say she didn't do anything wrong AND the law is unconstitutional as well.Oct 21 00:58
schestowitz[TR]http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2005/04/19/firefox-mac-theme/Oct 21 00:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Firefox Mac ThemeOct 21 00:58
schestowitz[TR]http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2005/04/17/pimpzilla-blue/Oct 21 00:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » PimpZilla BlueOct 21 00:58
DaemonFCThey act like some prosecutor who barely made it through an election by the edge of a razor, is representing "the people" in total.Oct 21 00:59
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Steam Deck: 6000 Games Playable/Verified ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/20/Steam_Deck_6000_Games_Playable_Verified.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/20/Steam_Deck_6000_Games_Playable_Verified.gmi ∎Oct 21 01:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Steam Deck: 6000 Games Playable/VerifiedOct 21 01:01
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schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: correc t me if I ak wrongOct 21 01:01
schestowitz[TR]I don't keep track of firefox anymore (removed it from one pc last week):Oct 21 01:01
schestowitz[TR]now firefox just supports very rudimentayr themingOct 21 01:01
schestowitz[TR]no scrollbar, buttons, menusOct 21 01:02
schestowitz[TR]just some liusy imnage nearr the top and some css-liek themeOct 21 01:02
schestowitz[TR]*lousyOct 21 01:02
schestowitz[TR]basically tightly contgrolled by BakersoftOct 21 01:02
schestowitz[TR]and very little room for extensionOct 21 01:02
schestowitz[TR]they've made firefox more rigid over timeOct 21 01:02
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schestowitz[TR]iow, more like chromeOct 21 01:02
schestowitz[TR]which is what they claim they hope people would get away fromOct 21 01:03
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XRevan86DaemonFC: "And changed my color theme without asking" <- It does ask.Oct 21 01:04
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DaemonFCNope.Oct 21 01:05
DaemonFCChanged it to red.Oct 21 01:05
DaemonFCThen told me Colorways are here.Oct 21 01:05
techrights-newsLOL! Get a 1980s Casio or something. They were bug free and didn't need a battery change for years. This one is lasting days, at most, and barely works. https://www.maketecheasier.com/fix-apple-watch-not-getting-notifications/Oct 21 01:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Fix Apple Watch Not Getting Notifications - Make Tech EasierOct 21 01:05
XRevan86It opens a tab with a theme selector.Oct 21 01:05
schestowitz[TR]mozilla vandalises its own productsOct 21 01:06
schestowitz[TR]and coppies chrome's worst 'features'Oct 21 01:06
schestowitz[TR]like tabs instead of proper menusOct 21 01:06
schestowitz[TR]iirc, themes in chrome suck alsoOct 21 01:07
schestowitz[TR]it is not versatile at allOct 21 01:07
schestowitz[TR]it doesn't care about usersOct 21 01:07
schestowitz[TR]it dictates to themOct 21 01:07
techrights-newsNotice how Microsofters, even a year after the patch, keep bringing up and hyping up "Log4Shell" (or J) https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/10/19/cve-2022-42889/ the Microsofters did the same with "heartbleed" for yearsOct 21 01:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.helpnetsecurity.com | Apache Commons Text flaw is not a repeat of Log4Shell (CVE-2022-42889) - Help Net SecurityOct 21 01:09
resistorthere is a simple solution to this: not using any modern web-browserOct 21 01:09
resistorcurrently there isn't any of lynx,w3m,links ported to oasis-linux build scripting... just sayingOct 21 01:10
resistorhence, if you're absolutely strict with acceptance criteria over there, then there isn't none of those browsers anymoreOct 21 01:11
resistorwhat oasis linux ported instead is, interesting, netsurf browserOct 21 01:12
techrights-newsMicrosofters trolling Torvalds as he surrenders to GAFAM https://analyticsindiamag.com/after-30-years-a-second-language-comes-to-linux-kernel/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/21/going-rusty-faster/Oct 21 01:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-analyticsindiamag.com | After 30 Years, a Second Language Comes to Linux KernelOct 21 01:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Life of Linux Will Be Shortened by a Misguided Adoption of Rust | TechrightsOct 21 01:12
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Security and Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt (FUD) ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Security_and_Fear_Uncertainty_Doubt_FUD.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Security_and_Fear_Uncertainty_Doubt_FUD.gmi ∎Oct 21 01:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Security and Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt (FUD)Oct 21 01:14
resistorand the oasis linux tree isn't sanitized yet to comply with acceptance criteria of mine, i think netsurf or any dependency wouldn't passOct 21 01:14
schestowitz[TR]o oasis-linux ?Oct 21 01:15
resistornonetheless, detangling from GNU-buildsystem that's a huge accomplishment of oasis-linux, and all of what they got in their treeOct 21 01:15
resistorschestowitz[TR]: https://github.com/oasislinux/oasisOct 21 01:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - oasislinux/oasis: a small statically-linked linux systemOct 21 01:16
schestowitz[TR]lol, githubOct 21 01:16
schestowitz[TR]microsoftOct 21 01:16
schestowitz[TR]proprietaryOct 21 01:16
schestowitz[TR]oasisOct 21 01:16
schestowitz[TR]from what?Oct 21 01:16
resistori cloned it alreadyOct 21 01:16
reptilian_thrillsfreedomOct 21 01:16
resistorhowever, i would need to fork oasis-linux, cleanup their tree, merge my stuff, replace linux kernel with v2.4, integrate tcc-toolchain...Oct 21 01:17
resistorand there is several reasons i didn't continue any longerOct 21 01:18
resistorwith oasis-linux, it is their linux kernel version chosen, an implied _hard_ vendor lock against x86(64), among other problemsOct 21 01:18
techrights-news3 more Gemini capsules added/created today? gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmiOct 21 01:18
schestowitz[TR]kernel.org ----> MICEROSOFT = OASIA!!Oct 21 01:19
schestowitz[TR]*ISISOct 21 01:19
resistorthe vendor lock against x86(64) isn't easily coped with; and it is an inter-dependent problem with kernel-versionOct 21 01:19
schestowitz[TR]not OASISOct 21 01:19
schestowitz[TR]and not the OASIS standards outfit, eitherOct 21 01:19
reptilian_thrillsisis what you did thereOct 21 01:19
resistorbecause with tcc-toolchain, i consider roll-back to linux-2.4, and this too would vendor-lock against x86(64), which i don't acceptOct 21 01:19
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiOct 21 01:20
resistornonetheless, oasis linux made considerable progress with their ideas, currently it is the only clean linux-distro remaining, imoOct 21 01:20
reptilian_thrillskernel.org -> microsoft hmm?Oct 21 01:21
starstreakactivelow detected: resistor Oct 21 01:21
reptilian_thrillsbye, gkhOct 21 01:21
reptilian_thrillsgkh: rust apologistOct 21 01:22
reptilian_thrillstheres only one t in rustOct 21 01:23
reptilian_thrillsbecause you cant trust itOct 21 01:23
resistorwith C11 feature creep inside recent kernel versions, the required compilers are troublesome regardless of rustOct 21 01:24
resistorit is a difference still, if it's rust or C11 fed into the compilers, in any case both c11 and rust vendor-lock against those compilersOct 21 01:24
resistorback to oasis-linux, i wasn't aware yet if they made any progress to digest linux-5.16 (their current version chosen) with cproc/qbeOct 21 01:25
schestowitz[TR]rust statisticsOct 21 01:25
schestowitz[TR]torvalds is consentingOct 21 01:25
schestowitz[TR]he was given warningsOct 21 01:25
schestowitz[TR]so he compliesOct 21 01:25
schestowitz[TR]he said he even started trying to learn itOct 21 01:26
schestowitz[TR]because he cannot review code he mergesOct 21 01:26
resistorone of their goals is, and alot of accomplished already by them, to compile an entire linux distro with cproc/qbeOct 21 01:26
schestowitz[TR]that's a recipe foir disasterOct 21 01:26
schestowitz[TR]"I can't code rust, btu I have white hair"Oct 21 01:26
techrights-news[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D735.jpgOct 21 01:27
techrights-news[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D390.jpgOct 21 01:27
techrights-newsIRC is better gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~nristen/gemlog/20221020.gmiOct 21 01:28
resistori think oasis linux originated from the land of the devil: CaliforniaOct 21 01:29
resistorsame again, i fear development man power is invested into a project doomed to failOct 21 01:30
schestowitz[TR]death valley?Oct 21 01:30
resistorwhich is why, it is sad, to see competent developers engaged in such brilliant linux projectsOct 21 01:30
schestowitz[TR]are you a brilliant developer?Oct 21 01:30
resistorno, i was educated for managementOct 21 01:31
schestowitz[TR]also, what kernel do you use?Oct 21 01:31
schestowitz[TR]linuxOct 21 01:31
schestowitz[TR]afaik, even guix is linuxOct 21 01:31
schestowitz[TR]and guix is run by total idiots.. or WAS runOct 21 01:31
resistoryes, linux, and i am not only using this, i too hacked on linux kernel until v5.10, and consider it blocked indefinitelyOct 21 01:31
schestowitz[TR]they changed leadership a bitOct 21 01:31
schestowitz[TR]but ibm.fools are still there it seemsOct 21 01:32
schestowitz[TR]linux became a spitbucketOct 21 01:32
resistori think guix and bootstrappable.org slightly interesect with each other; i think the bootstrappable.org devs are among the most competentOct 21 01:32
schestowitz[TR]every company spits drivers into itOct 21 01:32
schestowitz[TR]and so they keep is stirred up and warmOct 21 01:32
schestowitz[TR]and the quality declinesOct 21 01:33
schestowitz[TR]inc. bugs tha t can spil hardwareOct 21 01:33
schestowitz[TR]*spoilOct 21 01:33
reptilian_thrillsbut ibm.fools are still there it seems <- yepOct 21 01:33
schestowitz[TR]because it's too big for quality controlOct 21 01:33
resistorlinux kernel is first and foremost this: TOO BIG, that big and fat nowadays, it must failOct 21 01:33
schestowitz[TR]and moves fast as every company wants its driver "dump" to be in the next kernel within 3 monthsOct 21 01:33
reptilian_thrillsbecause it's too big for quality control <- attack surfaceOct 21 01:33
reptilian_thrillsbut what they will do isOct 21 01:33
schestowitz[TR]so it dumps it in for 2 weeks until rc1Oct 21 01:33
schestowitz[TR]and then waitsOct 21 01:33
reptilian_thrillstheyll prune shit thats importantOct 21 01:33
schestowitz[TR]and some write it in rust nowOct 21 01:33
reptilian_thrillsor shit they dont want to support anymoreOct 21 01:33
schestowitz[TR]torvalds cannot comprehend what he signs offOct 21 01:34
reptilian_thrillsand support more new stuffOct 21 01:34
resistori am not expressing this as a wish-think, it is a prognosis, what happens to linux, and it already begunOct 21 01:34
reptilian_thrillsand a lot of people will like that, except people who were happy that things got supported for longer without it becoming a treadmillOct 21 01:34
schestowitz[TR]meanwhile they keep massive microsofrt crapOct 21 01:34
reptilian_thrillslinucks will be less reliableOct 21 01:34
schestowitz[TR]for proprietary crapOct 21 01:34
schestowitz[TR]that nobody but microsoft auditsOct 21 01:34
schestowitz[TR]and maybe the nsa codes partlyOct 21 01:34
schestowitz[TR]but they remove suppoort for floppiesOct 21 01:34
reptilian_thrillsthe future of gnu/linux is microshitOct 21 01:34
resistorlinux 2.4 3million LoC (this was fat alread, and stuffed with corporate cancer such as ACPI), linux 5.10 30million LoC, and that's a death sentence to any decent kernelOct 21 01:34
schestowitz[TR]which had decent support and much woirk into stabilityOct 21 01:34
schestowitz[TR]remove stable stuffOct 21 01:35
schestowitz[TR]add crap from microsoftOct 21 01:35
schestowitz[TR]because microsoft bribes jim zemlin and sheela microsoftOct 21 01:35
schestowitz[TR]that's todsay's "modern" linuxOct 21 01:35
reptilian_thrillsbut they remove suppoort for floppies <- they should have just made it not load by defaultOct 21 01:35
reptilian_thrillsthen if you run it with a kernel option it loadsOct 21 01:35
reptilian_thrillshow hard is thatOct 21 01:35
resistorwith linux-2.4, to avoid a _hard_ vendor lock against x86(64?), i would need to manufacture my own hardware evenOct 21 01:36
DaemonFChttps://wgntv.com/news/deans-list/jury-kevin-spacey-didnt-molest-actor-anthony-rapp-in-1986/Oct 21 01:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Jury: Kevin Spacey didn’t molest actor Anthony Rapp in 1986 | WGN-TVOct 21 01:36
schestowitz[TR]he did some shit 20 years agoOct 21 01:37
DaemonFCKevin Spacey has been acquitted by a jury. Now he should sue Anthony Rapp for defamation.Oct 21 01:37
resistorsuch as a 68k FPGA softcore, or MIPS or whatever else there is... and that's too much, besides the huge integration effort required with oasis-linuxOct 21 01:37
DaemonFCRapp was trying to win $40 million and has destroyed the career of Kevin Spacey.Oct 21 01:37
DaemonFCI think Spacey, with the trial ending today, has good reason to sue Rapp.Oct 21 01:37
schestowitz[TR]were there not multiple allegers?Oct 21 01:38
resistorDaemonFC: thank you for participating in the conversationOct 21 01:38
schestowitz[TR]ok, back to linusOct 21 01:38
schestowitz[TR]spacey is not even remotely relatedOct 21 01:38
reptilian_thrills/me checks the distance of torvalds and spacey to kevin baconOct 21 01:39
schestowitz[TR]check erdos alsoOct 21 01:39
reptilian_thrillsmaybe counterrevolution osOct 21 01:39
schestowitz[TR]just in caseOct 21 01:39
schestowitz[TR]torvalds might be connected 2 degrees aaprtOct 21 01:39
resistoryep, a seccond opinion on a linux version roll-back to v2.4 would be coolOct 21 01:39
reptilian_thrillsim sad af about kevin spaceyOct 21 01:39
resistorand what Linus and GKH would say about thisOct 21 01:39
reptilian_thrillsi thought he would be PERFECT for playing jack bennyOct 21 01:39
reptilian_thrillstheyre fucking identicalOct 21 01:39
resistoror Alan CoxOct 21 01:39
schestowitz[TR]kevin bacon -> jono bacon -> bacon -> linusOct 21 01:39
resistorbecause, i am not a kernel hacking veteranOct 21 01:40
DaemonFChttps://wgntv.com/news/wgn-news-now/bah-humbug-christmas-tree-price-hike-coming-this-yr/Oct 21 01:40
reptilian_thrillsjack benny, jono baconOct 21 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Bah-humbug! Christmas tree price hike coming this year | WGN-TVOct 21 01:40
DaemonFCWalmart is selling fake trees for over $400.Oct 21 01:40
reptilian_thrillskevin bacon -> jono bacon -> bacon -> linus <- lolOct 21 01:40
DaemonFCThey bring them in from China, they're plastic.Oct 21 01:40
resistori do know already, linux 2.4 got those problems: (1) year 2038 (2) scalability (max number of processes and whatever else)Oct 21 01:40
DaemonFCWho wants to pay $400-$450 for this?Oct 21 01:40
schestowitz[TR]microsoft <3 kosher baconOct 21 01:40
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: marisolOct 21 01:41
schestowitz[TR]for her fb pageOct 21 01:41
DaemonFCMARISOL doesn't have Christmas.Oct 21 01:41
DaemonFCHer church doesn't allow it.Oct 21 01:41
reptilian_thrillskevin bacon -> kevin sorbo -> lucy lawless -> lucy and linus -> linus torvaldsOct 21 01:41
resistori think with a roll-back and fork to linux-2.4 year-2038 could be coped with by a kernel-abi/api break (which they had to avoid in their linux 5.x series hacks for year 2038)Oct 21 01:41
schestowitz[TR]iirc, that's the church whose memmbers sometimes nail themsleves to treesOct 21 01:41
resistorand the scalability problem isn't the most urgent one, it is only important to know, how far linux-2.4 could scale with SMP/RAM number of processes etcOct 21 01:42
DaemonFCSomeone ought to have her nailed to a tree so she'd have something real to complain about.Oct 21 01:42
schestowitz[TR]ask her dadOct 21 01:42
schestowitz[TR]he has some planks with nail on themOct 21 01:42
schestowitz[TR]for... somethingOct 21 01:42
resistorschestowitz[TR]: thank you too for participating in the conversationOct 21 01:42
schestowitz[TR]<resistor> i do know already, linux 2.4 got those problems: (1) year 2038 (2) scalability (max number of processes and whatever else)Oct 21 01:43
schestowitz[TR]that's far from nowOct 21 01:43
schestowitz[TR]we will probably see a drift to something else by thenOct 21 01:43
schestowitz[TR]some devices run a kernel with far more then they needOct 21 01:43
schestowitz[TR]developing for linus will onykly get harderOct 21 01:43
schestowitz[TR]*linusOct 21 01:43
schestowitz[TR]>linuxOct 21 01:43
resistorallright then, *BSD? llvm/clang? no, thank you.Oct 21 01:44
reptilian_thrillssome kernels are not like the othersOct 21 01:44
reptilian_thrillssome kernels are just like their mothersOct 21 01:44
resistorreptilian_thrills: well saidOct 21 01:44
schestowitz[TR]linux-aggi 2.4Oct 21 01:46
schestowitz[TR]1000+ bugsOct 21 01:46
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resistorbugs?Oct 21 01:46
schestowitz[TR]btw, aggi means homosexual in marisol's native tongueOct 21 01:46
resistorwhateverOct 21 01:46
resistorthe problem with linux-2.4 and tcc-toolchain is this: vendor-lock into x86(64)Oct 21 01:47
reptilian_thrillswhereas in british english, aggi is pronounced "a gayyyyyyyyy"Oct 21 01:47
schestowitz[TR]it's written hagi, iircOct 21 01:47
resistortcc-toolchain got RISC-V too already, however, linux-2.4 got no RISC-VOct 21 01:47
schestowitz[TR]with emphasis on the latter partOct 21 01:47
resistorallright, cproc/qbe, don't know what they got, oasis-linux is pushing this with remarkable success already, except kernel it seemsOct 21 01:47
schestowitz[TR]someone will fork linusOct 21 01:47
schestowitz[TR]like bobby moss forked gimpOct 21 01:48
schestowitz[TR]because of the nameOct 21 01:48
schestowitz[TR]he made glimpseOct 21 01:48
schestowitz[TR]of course it was doomed to failOct 21 01:48
reptilian_thrillshis wife certainly didOct 21 01:48
schestowitz[TR]like linux-aggiOct 21 01:48
schestowitz[TR]no reaosn to adopt itOct 21 01:48
schestowitz[TR]toommany bugs, poor h/w supportOct 21 01:48
resistori am thinking currently, if it was at least feasible to do thisOct 21 01:48
reptilian_thrillsive got a vegan fork of linuxOct 21 01:48
reptilian_thrillsits made entirely without penguinOct 21 01:48
starstreaklinucks btwOct 21 01:48
schestowitz[TR]excellentOct 21 01:48
schestowitz[TR]number of users: 1Oct 21 01:48
schestowitz[TR]fsfe-veganOct 21 01:49
schestowitz[TR]a splinter group of fsfeOct 21 01:49
reptilian_thrillsit uses a penguin flavoured tofu-based substituteOct 21 01:49
resistori already do know with 100% certainty, the current system i had frozen/archived with a c-only toolchain and gcc47, this cannot be neither updated nor rolled-back, thats blocked into any directionOct 21 01:49
schestowitz[TR]created by people who won't wear woolOct 21 01:49
reptilian_thrillsyes, dont wear wool, it exploits sheepOct 21 01:49
reptilian_thrillswear cotton, it only exploits ANYWAY...Oct 21 01:49
resistorhowever, i still can spin-off some distro built with tcc-toolchain , and was hitting blockers against GNU-buildsystem and binutils GNU gas assemblyOct 21 01:49
reptilian_thrillsmeanwhile in bangladesh...Oct 21 01:50
schestowitz[TR]sheep work in sweatshopsOct 21 01:50
schestowitz[TR]but human sheepOct 21 01:50
schestowitz[TR]"sheeple" ;-)Oct 21 01:50
reptilian_thrillssweatsheepOct 21 01:50
resistorand forking piles up that huge of a mountain of problems including vendor-locking again... i am not convinced yet to do anything at all anymoreOct 21 01:50
reptilian_thrillsmaking sweatshirtsOct 21 01:50
schestowitz[TR]do sheep sweat?Oct 21 01:50
reptilian_thrillsby the seashoreOct 21 01:50
resistorthe mainstream GNU/linux is approaching wreckage closer each dayOct 21 01:50
reptilian_thrillsdo sheep sweat? <- for shornOct 21 01:51
schestowitz[TR]they sheep it from bangladeshOct 21 01:51
resistorand whatever else was chosen, simply VIOLATES acceptance criteriaOct 21 01:51
reptilian_thrillsits sheeper because they exploit the workersOct 21 01:51
resistorit is complete irelevant, if GNU or MICROS~1 or IBM place the banner on top of thisOct 21 01:51
reptilian_thrillsoh we are making cute puns about basically slavery <3Oct 21 01:52
resistoror Apple, not to forget them with their glorious LLVM/clang toolchainOct 21 01:52
schestowitz[TR]CoC.md, vegan.md, PATENTS.TXTOct 21 01:52
reptilian_thrillslinux.rustOct 21 01:52
reptilian_thrillsibm.cuntsOct 21 01:52
resistorand this seems to be the niche oasis-linux tries to sneak into, together with cproc/qbe and detangling from GNU-buildsystemOct 21 01:52
schestowitz[TR]antitRustOct 21 01:52
reptilian_thrillsactually thats a porn site, disregardOct 21 01:52
reptilian_thrillsi was going to say probably, but lol without probablyOct 21 01:53
reptilian_thrillsprobably a porn site :)Oct 21 01:53
schestowitz[TR]with flight attendanta and WatsonOct 21 01:53
reptilian_thrillswith hot core on core actionOct 21 01:53
resistorhowever, although impressive, that's insufficient still, and i doubt they'll ever succeed with any linux-kernel and the entire distro compiled/linked with cproc/qbeOct 21 01:53
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/2020/07/26/ibm-watson-plane-incident/Oct 21 01:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Meet the IBM Watsons: Sponsors of Richard Nixon and Abusers of Women | TechrightsOct 21 01:53
reptilian_thrillsracks and stacksOct 21 01:53
resistoralthough, they do try, that's what i appreciate, because any other don't anymore: canonical, redhat, *bsd whoever...Oct 21 01:54
starstreakApple never licensed Intel ME so its actually absent in macbooks, so basically PC makers pay for a backdoor.Oct 21 01:54
schestowitz[TR]ICBM: nix rms, fund nixonOct 21 01:54
reptilian_thrills <starstreak> Apple never licensed Intel ME so its actually absent in macbooks <- WOTTTTTTOct 21 01:54
schestowitz[TR]nixon who called blacks "niggers"Oct 21 01:54
schestowitz[TR]and who mocked "Jews" tooOct 21 01:54
starstreakreptilian_thrills, yupOct 21 01:54
schestowitz[TR]that's the nixcon ICBM backedOct 21 01:54
reptilian_thrillsnixon was a pretty awful person even by the standards of the dayOct 21 01:54
resistorthank you for flooding and drowning argument below noise floor of yoursOct 21 01:54
resistori don't know schestowitz[TR], whatever #techrights is occupied with, it's far off technical reasonOct 21 01:55
reptilian_thrillsi believe theres a nixon hillary clinton connection thats funOct 21 01:55
reptilian_thrillssomething about watergateOct 21 01:55
reptilian_thrillsdr sixel probably knowsOct 21 01:55
resistoriirc nixon illegally spied on the opposition, and had to resign over thisOct 21 01:56
reptilian_thrills/me throws out computers and gets apple hwOct 21 01:56
reptilian_thrillsthis is a strange week indeedOct 21 01:57
mjg59_starstreak: No, Intel-based Apples all have MEs, and actually still require them to be functional for some scenarios (eg, if you have an Intel GPU, it's the ME that implements HDCP, so the MacOS Intel GPU driver requires access to the ME)Oct 21 01:57
mjg59_starstreak: None of them have AMT, thoughOct 21 01:57
resistori simply can't work with any recent computers anymore, knowing those severly violate acceptance criteria (including what was supposed to be "free software")Oct 21 01:57
reptilian_thrills None of them have AMT, though <- another plusOct 21 01:58
DaemonFCmjg59_, Solution: Don't use HDCP.Oct 21 01:58
resistor"free software" too involved the compiler/toolchain and any support for hardware, which a _free_ FPGA softcore SoC implementation should exist forOct 21 01:59
DaemonFCYou'll be happier without the "Chuck TV, buy new TV." message every 3 years anyway. B-)Oct 21 01:59
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starstreak"The Intel ME, included on most Intel chipsets since 2008, is controversial because it expands the attack surface of Intel-based hardware."Oct 21 01:59
starstreakattack surfaceOct 21 01:59
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DaemonFCMy TV only has one port with HDCP 2.2. The rest can do 4K but none of the streaming crap will allow it.Oct 21 01:59
reptilian_thrills#theoderaadtwasrightOct 21 01:59
DaemonFCThat's fine.Oct 21 01:59
DaemonFCVLC don't care.Oct 21 02:00
resistorjust see for yourself, how far you'll get with an ao486 FPGA: it is VERY expensive, incomplete (no USB1, no ethernet), and insufficient to maintain any linux distro with from source, even when tcc-toolchain is 10x more efficientOct 21 02:00
schestowitz[TR]I thought it was 2009Oct 21 02:00
DaemonFCVLC don't give a shit.Oct 21 02:00
resistormjg59_: it is dead-end at all frontlines with regards to freedomOct 21 02:00
reptilian_thrillsmincers been complaining since 2008Oct 21 02:00
schestowitz[TR]surface-to-surface attack surface missileOct 21 02:00
reptilian_thrillsit was his first post in ircOct 21 02:00
reptilian_thrills"fucking intel me"Oct 21 02:00
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resistorand even when the "freedom" aspect was less relevant to some, i too consider the global supply chains and stability of those systems criticalOct 21 02:01
resistorincluding proprietary offeringsOct 21 02:01
reptilian_thrillsdfcs was "windows!"Oct 21 02:01
DaemonFCI mean, it does make sense for Intel to put HDCP in the Malware Engine.Oct 21 02:01
reptilian_thrills"oops wrong channel"Oct 21 02:01
DaemonFCWhich mjg59_ thanked them for the other day.Oct 21 02:01
DaemonFCThen they can help GULAG pretend that Widevine works, which is probably why everything on Netfucks ends up on BitTorrent in 4K 10 minutes later.Oct 21 02:02
DaemonFCmjg59_, "I refused a job at Netfucks, you know."Oct 21 02:02
DaemonFCI doubt you'd have been the one to fix Widevine.Oct 21 02:02
resistorso whatever was chosen, i don't accept any of this (IBM MICROS~1 PC, GNU, BSD whatever), for neither private use at home, nor for any deployment into critical infrastructure (such as german railway i applied for recently)Oct 21 02:02
DaemonFCOr FailReady.Oct 21 02:02
resistormjg59_: another problem is, the _old_ supply chains mostly vanished already, such as X.25 era related gear, which is deployed inside critical infrastructure until todayOct 21 02:03
mjg59_DaemonFC: I thanked them for releasing a copy of the tooling with the debug symbols still there, which made it easier to reverse engineer how to do stuff that Intel don't publicly documentOct 21 02:03
mjg59_It is very weird to me how you manage to misinterpret so many things I say when other people seem to manage just fineOct 21 02:04
resistorand as soon as those old gear is phased out, the entire industry locks-into whatever this clusterf*** is nowadays, no escape from thereOct 21 02:04
reptilian_thrills <mjg59_> It is very weird to me how you manage to misinterpret so many things I say when other people seem to manage just fine <- you get used to it after a few yearsOct 21 02:04
resistorin railway (which is one of the most critical infrastructure parts), they are wish-thinking already "ALL-IP", and "5G", this is it, they way is up in the future with thisOct 21 02:04
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resistori mean, german railway, had not fully rolled-out a "2G" based digital radio system into their infrastructure to reach "ETCS" level 2 compliance, and it is scheduled for deprecation year 2030 alreadyOct 21 02:05
reptilian_thrillsit sort of plateaus and then just becomes a running jokeOct 21 02:06
schestowitz[TR]fm lasts longer :-)Oct 21 02:06
reptilian_thrills i mean the climb is steep but once youre up there its level enough to build a runway on itOct 21 02:06
resistorand to my knowledge their old X.25 based signalling is still in operation, which suppliers for vanished alreadyOct 21 02:06
starstreakyou all just lost the gameOct 21 02:07
schestowitz[TR]starstreak: "us all the LATESTS of the THINGS"Oct 21 02:07
schestowitz[TR]systed-waylanddOct 21 02:08
starstreaki like having new thingsOct 21 02:08
schestowitz[TR]germany rail should use pipewireOct 21 02:08
schestowitz[TR]one day it might workOct 21 02:08
schestowitz[TR]*germanOct 21 02:08
starstreakpipewire works fine for meOct 21 02:08
resistorand an IBM/RedHat JEE JBoss software stack on top... that's it, this is what i would do, for long-term reliable operationOct 21 02:08
resistorand it's best, pupils learn this as early as possible, in school and university, getting granted a certificate from IBM MICROS~1 RedHatOct 21 02:09
starstreaki use arch linucks btwOct 21 02:09
schestowitz[TR]to deploy oracle javaOct 21 02:10
schestowitz[TR]with oracle DBOct 21 02:10
schestowitz[TR]not postgresOct 21 02:10
schestowitz[TR]"vas ist das???"Oct 21 02:10
schestowitz[TR]"the train is late; they forgot to activate the oracle licence.."Oct 21 02:11
resistorto my knowledge, there isn't at least sqlite3 ported over to some clean build-system, such as the one from Oasis LinuxOct 21 02:11
resistoras soon as any of this is required, a huge mountain of unmaintainable chaos is piled up, impossible or difficult to bootstrapOct 21 02:13
resistorreminder, i was hitting severe blockers when bootstrapping GNU-toolchain, and GNU-buildsystemOct 21 02:13
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resistortested with tcc-toolchain, as a verification, if GNU can be tamed, no it can't, without rolling back to perl-5.8 from year 2003(!)Oct 21 02:14
resistorand the GNU buildsystem itself is, ok, for whatever else, but not inside any component required for critical infrastructureOct 21 02:14
resistorand this is another one, where i crashing into a wall of problems: detangling GNU buildsystem from base system componentsOct 21 02:15
resistorGNU creeped deep into with a _hard_ vendor lock where it does not belong, and where such a hard vendor lock should have NEVER existed to begin withOct 21 02:16
resistorbecause, i would NEVER certify any system if any software dependency relied upon it, GNU buildsystem with a hard vendor lockOct 21 02:17
resistorthat's why, for example, MIT-licensed lua-interpreter or vis-editor are relevant, to have some development utilities to work withOct 21 02:18
resistori'll never ever again touch any python or Vim or anything like thisOct 21 02:18
resistorit's ok if this is used elsewhere, i won't accept it on my systems neither for private use at home nor within any project i was willing to join, if i will ever againOct 21 02:18
resistormjg59_: i am still waiting for a response from EPA germany, german telekom and german railway, which i had written some letter of intent with an offer to discuss some of these problemsOct 21 02:19
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resistorit is noteworthy, there seems noone willing to, even when i remained patient and polite for almost 20 yearsOct 21 02:21
starstreakhttps://github.com/Wamphyre/BSD-XFCEOct 21 02:22
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reptilian_thrillshttps://github.com/Wamphyre/BSD-XFCE <- whyOct 21 02:22
reptilian_thrillsthunar is available in openbsd. what that says about the rest of xfce, idkOct 21 02:23
reptilian_thrillsits probably all thereOct 21 02:23
reptilian_thrillsbut you have to type startxfce at the command lineOct 21 02:23
resistori wouldn't touch QNX anymore either, together with their glorious toolchain shippedOct 21 02:23
starstreakit turns your FreeBSD into macOSOct 21 02:23
reptilian_thrillsoh, lolOct 21 02:23
resistorat least, i would put QNX to test with the exact same standards, and i wouldn't say any more than this without violating NDAOct 21 02:23
reptilian_thrillswhen you start openbsd, it doesnt even startOct 21 02:24
reptilian_thrillsyou have to type startopenbsd for it to even boot you knowOct 21 02:24
reptilian_thrillsotherwise it just sits thereOct 21 02:25
reptilian_thrillsits gotten a lot better thoughOct 21 02:25
starstreaki herd you gotta type startx to start x on openbsd, thats lame, ill never use openbsdOct 21 02:25
reptilian_thrillsyou used to have to type startstartopenbsd just so you could tell it to startopenbsdOct 21 02:25
reptilian_thrills <starstreak> i herd you gotta type startx to start x on openbsd, thats lame, ill never use openbsd <- you also have to type stopx before it lets you shut downOct 21 02:25
reptilian_thrillsstopx wasnt even part of x11Oct 21 02:26
reptilian_thrillsbut its a fork so they can do what they wantOct 21 02:26
resistoreven OpenBSD requires some compiler/toolchain, although they aren't affected by many other problems known elsewhereOct 21 02:26
reptilian_thrillswhen you start the gui, the mouse doesnt do anything until you type startmouseOct 21 02:26
starstreakyou can compile the openbsd kernel using the Google Go compilerOct 21 02:26
reptilian_thrillsyou used to have to type startkeyboard, but they fixed that in openbsd 4.7Oct 21 02:27
resistorand then, OpenBSD admit themselves, their ports tree is problematicOct 21 02:27
resistorllvm/clang/c++ ok, for those who want this, and GNU toolchain is still thereOct 21 02:28
resistorhowever, i consider the verification against tcc-toolchain mandatory, even when GNU toolchain was chosenOct 21 02:28
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resistorbecause, otherwise, again: _hard_ vendor lockOct 21 02:28
resistorand neither GNU nor Apple deserve that much trust, to lock against them with a _hard_ vendor lockOct 21 02:28
resistorthat's why, them trying to hook into PCC compiler in year 2007 was relevant, although only accomplished, again, for x86Oct 21 02:29
resistorand x86 _only_ is yet another _hard_ vendor lock, the related manufacturers not deserving any trust whatsoeverOct 21 02:30
resistoras soon as anyone of them does this (GNU, Apple, IBM, MICROS~1), _hard_ vendor locking against themselves, any trust is void, they're out once and for allOct 21 02:31
DaemonFC<mjg59_> DaemonFC: I thanked them for releasing a copy of the tooling with the debug symbols still there, which made it easier to reverse engineer how to do stuff that Intel don't publicly documentOct 21 02:32
DaemonFC<mjg59_> It is very weird to me how you manage to misinterpret so many things I say when other people seem to manage just fineOct 21 02:32
DaemonFCOkay, so let me walk you through this, Matt.Oct 21 02:32
resistorreminder, ESA for example, chose some SPARC Leon, although the reasoning about such decisions obviously never had arrived where it should haveOct 21 02:32
DaemonFCWhen the bad guys add something nasty. You don't tell them you appreciate that they told you something about it.Oct 21 02:32
resistorand it isn't specific to SPARC Leon or any other system, it is the criteria to choose anythingOct 21 02:32
DaemonFCYou say "Damn this thing! Here's what people should do to resist it instead!".Oct 21 02:33
resistori mean, the necessitiy to reverse-engineer parts of any system, that's reasons enough to quit any cooperation with such malicious suppliers (Intel in this case)Oct 21 02:33
DaemonFCI don't want to know how ME works. I want to know how to disable and sabotage it.Oct 21 02:33
resistorinstead, in east-germany, they decided to subsidize the corrupt monstrosity from the land of the evil, california, intel, to establish fabs in MagdeburgOct 21 02:34
DaemonFCUnless they told you THAT, then you shouldn't thank them.Oct 21 02:34
resistori had proposed to politicians there, to grab some strela-rockets instead as soon as intel arrived thereOct 21 02:34
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR], Firefox is pushing users to other browsers. Many of them to Chrome.Oct 21 02:34
DaemonFCBecause it's just so annoying to use Firefox. Every time it updates, it's like, my my, we are the Chatty Cathy today, aren't we?Oct 21 02:35
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DaemonFChttps://www.techspot.com/news/96392-someone-wrote-javascript-app-accurately-emulates-windows-95.htmlOct 21 02:39
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schestowitz[TR]??Oct 21 02:39
schestowitz[TR]wrong titleOct 21 02:39
schestowitz[TR]that was years agoOct 21 02:40
schestowitz[TR]this is just an updateOct 21 02:40
schestowitz[TR]it's electron garbageOct 21 02:40
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DaemonFCI had many more instability problems with Windows 98 than with Windows 95. So to confirm that they were caused by Internet Explorer, I actually installed IE 4 with the Shell Update into a Windows 95, and started having the same stability problems there too.Oct 21 02:40
DaemonFCI then sought out RoM II SE to carve out all the crap in Windows 98, and install the Windows 95 B explorer.Oct 21 02:40
DaemonFCFor the shell, you know.Oct 21 02:40
schestowitz[TR]now browesers are PF editorsOct 21 02:41
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schestowitz[TR]so you can edito PDFs on your wallpaper ;-)Oct 21 02:41
schestowitz[TR]"active desktop"(TM)Oct 21 02:41
schestowitz[TR]Microsoft INNOVA~1Oct 21 02:41
DaemonFCWindows 98 only actually improved a few things, like runnin program code that was in the disk cache instead of one or the other (a significant drawback to Windows 95), more virtual address spacing, and the Windows Driver Model (which was mostly unused by devices until the XP era).Oct 21 02:41
DaemonFCI took a system that came with XP, put 98 on it, and tried to install Intel's drivers for the chipset and everything, and they software-blocked it.Oct 21 02:42
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DaemonFCSo I dug out the INF files and stuff and installed them MANUALLY into Windows 98.Oct 21 02:42
DaemonFCRebooted, and it all came up and worked fine.Oct 21 02:42
resistorin their early days micro-soft had been INNOVA~1, that's how far their minimal credibility reaches, up until late 1970sOct 21 02:43
DaemonFCThey've been in cahoots with Microsoft forever to stop people from rolling back to a copy of Windows that was less bloated and insane by preventing drivers from functioning, when there's no technical reason they shouldn't on the older operating system.Oct 21 02:43
schestowitz[TR]1970 s innovation?Oct 21 02:44
schestowitz[TR]name someOct 21 02:44
reptilian_thrillsc ? Oct 21 02:44
schestowitz[TR]first 5 years of the companyOct 21 02:44
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reptilian_thrillsunix?Oct 21 02:44
resistorschestowitz[TR]: their BASIC interpreterOct 21 02:44
schestowitz[TR]BASIC was not theirsOct 21 02:44
resistorwhich they released their source code for, 40years laterOct 21 02:44
reptilian_thrillsi would say 7 bit teleypes but thats early/mid 60sOct 21 02:44
schestowitz[TR]not Open SOurceOct 21 02:44
DaemonFCI'm glad I don't have to think about drivers anymore.Oct 21 02:44
reptilian_thrillsbasic was 1963/64Oct 21 02:44
resistorthe interpreter implementation was theirs and correctly contracted and licensedOct 21 02:44
DaemonFCThey just get updated with the rest of the OS. Microsoft still doesn't have anything like the flawless driver upgrade experience with GNU/Linux.Oct 21 02:45
resistoriirc at that time it was ALGO, anyway, no dispute with me over this, what to think of MICROS~1 nowadaysOct 21 02:45
resistor*ALGOLOct 21 02:45
reptilian_thrillsalong with dtss, pre-unix timesharingOct 21 02:45
DaemonFCYou get the Intel shit that time forgot that says "Oh, I'm a Windows 10 1703 driver. Don't mind me on Windows 11, even though Intel releases updates every fuckin' month!".Oct 21 02:45
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/2021/08/01/microsoft-myths/Oct 21 02:45
reptilian_thrillsobviously multics also pre-unix timesharingOct 21 02:45
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DaemonFCAnd this is "Modern Windows".Oct 21 02:45
schestowitz[TR]"BASIC was gained by dumpster diving and pawned off as if their own."Oct 21 02:46
reptilian_thrillsit also had fortranOct 21 02:46
reptilian_thrillsyeah microsoft basic: dont pirate our pirated basicOct 21 02:46
reptilian_thrillsletter to suckersOct 21 02:46
DaemonFCIf Intel is releasing drivers that fix bugs and add features and making the GPU run faster every month, why is Windows Update installing drivers from 3-4 years ago?Oct 21 02:46
DaemonFC:)Oct 21 02:46
reptilian_thrillsthe ORIGINAL microsoft "open letter"Oct 21 02:46
reptilian_thrillsalso bullshitOct 21 02:47
resistorschestowitz[TR]: they did release source code 40 years later, with copyright notices and everything, and i think they were honest with everyone involved in the development of thisOct 21 02:47
reptilian_thrillsplease pay us so we can continue pirating basic for youOct 21 02:47
reptilian_thrillsthink about the time and work that our developers put into pirating basicOct 21 02:47
resistoranyway, that's moot to discuss nowadays, the little credibility they might have had 40years ago, that's long goneOct 21 02:47
reptilian_thrillsif you pirate basic it will make that impossible Oct 21 02:47
DaemonFC"We're worth a trillion dollars! Here, have a Windows 8 driver in your Windows 11. LOL! Thanks for pitching us mjg59_! We're a Security Company!".Oct 21 02:47
MinceR21 025400 < starstreak> Apple never licensed Intel ME so its actually absent in macbooks, so basically PC makers pay for a backdoor.Oct 21 02:47
MinceRtry buying a boxed intHell CPU without IMEOct 21 02:48
reptilian_thrills/me waits for itOct 21 02:48
schestowitz[TR]resistor:  you were nnot even born yetOct 21 02:48
schestowitz[TR]you praise proprietary RIPOFFOct 21 02:48
schestowitz[TR]which is still proprietaryOct 21 02:48
schestowitz[TR]"look, don't touch", IIRCOct 21 02:48
reptilian_thrillsshes right thoughOct 21 02:48
reptilian_thrillsthe pc makers still pay for a backdoorOct 21 02:48
DaemonFCmjg59_, So, Windows 10 just automatically puts a Windows 8 driver in the OS when you plug in a Western Digital EasyStore hard drive. The driver is not needed for the drive to work, but it does stop "Virtualization Based Security" from functioning, although the OS disables that quietly.Oct 21 02:48
resistorschestowitz[TR]: please, don't mis-represent my argument, i do not praise anything from anyoneOct 21 02:49
DaemonFCCan you ping some of your Microsoft Friends and mention this on your Shitter?Oct 21 02:49
MinceRyeah, but so does everyone else who buys an intHell, AMD or ARM CPUOct 21 02:49
reptilian_thrillsagreed, sadlyOct 21 02:49
MinceRor whatever SoC goes into raspberry pisOct 21 02:49
reptilian_thrillsbut she never said otherwiseOct 21 02:49
reptilian_thrillsyeah plus they get microsoft rtos on the gpuOct 21 02:49
resistorand in particular don't i consent with any evil from IBM MICROS~1 Wintel Pentagon Computer (PC) nowadaysOct 21 02:49
reptilian_thrillsplus raspyianOct 21 02:49
resistorPC=Pentagon ComputerOct 21 02:49
schestowitz[TR]microsoft-acquiredOct 21 02:50
MinceRthe nice thing is that i recently noticed that void linux has an image for the rpi4Oct 21 02:50
reptilian_thrillsid rather have an soc without azure rtosOct 21 02:50
resistorthat's why i am saying, i would need to manufacture my own hardware, with an FPGA SoC, and that's a dead-end doomed to fail tooOct 21 02:50
MinceRsameOct 21 02:50
reptilian_thrillsif i wanted microsoft firmware id get scrutonOct 21 02:50
schestowitz[TR]"Usually Microsoft doesn't develop products, we buy products. It's not a bad product, but bits and pieces are missing." -Arno Edelmann, Microsoft's European business security product managerOct 21 02:50
MinceRhm, maybe there's a risc-v sbc without backdoors nowOct 21 02:50
schestowitz[TR]they co-opt that too nowOct 21 02:51
reptilian_thrills It's not a bad product, but bits and pieces are missing <- Oct 21 02:51
schestowitz[TR]via LF/MicrosoftOct 21 02:51
resistorFPGA is expensive, it is slow, and most SoC proposals are incomplete and/or depend on nasty _hard_ vendor-locks on the software-sideOct 21 02:51
schestowitz[TR]"OCP"Oct 21 02:51
reptilian_thrills"this could really use a backdoor"Oct 21 02:51
schestowitz[TR]Microsoft tentOct 21 02:51
resistori don't accept any vendor-lock into GNU eitherOct 21 02:51
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR], On throwing out the TV every three years, I said:Oct 21 02:51
MinceROmni Computer ProductsOct 21 02:51
reptilian_thrillsbackdoors ARE fun, but i dont want them in my computingOct 21 02:51
DaemonFC"People around here just chuck the TV in someone's lawn in compliance with the Illinois e-waste disposal law. ;) Then they get in the car and buy a flat screen and tell the Walmart employee to put it in their trunk that's 3 sizes too small."Oct 21 02:52
MinceR"Please put down your weapon. You have 20 seconds to comply."Oct 21 02:52
*DaemonFC slaps mjg59_ around a bit with a TV he found in the neighboring lawn, in compliance with the e-waste disposal law.Oct 21 02:52
MinceRs/Computer/Consumer/Oct 21 02:53
DaemonFCIt's in there! You find a TV you have to do that!Oct 21 02:53
MinceRspecifically to mjg59_?Oct 21 02:53
DaemonFCYeah, you know, I slipped Mike Madigan $100 and it went right in there. I thought it was a bargain. AT&T paid him $21,500, but they wanted the total repeal of Carrier of Last Resort.Oct 21 02:54
DaemonFCNow we have a whole state that's legally obligated to throw old TVs at Matthew Garrett.Oct 21 02:54
reptilian_thrills <schestowitz[TR]> "Usually Microsoft doesn't develop products, we buy products. It's not a bad product, but bits and pieces are missing." -Arno EdelmannOct 21 02:55
reptilian_thrills ^ linucksOct 21 02:55
resistorin case of their BASIC interpreter this wasn't true, BillG and Allen and their contractors (Davidoff) did implement it themselvesOct 21 02:57
resistorsure, they did need a CP/M DOS system, and couldn't hack all this alone, and whatever the market situation was at that time (late 1970s), it wasn't BillG who spread CP/M or DOS beforeOct 21 02:58
resistorthey worked with what they hadOct 21 02:58
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resistorthis is how i see it, in retro-spective, and nothing relevant changed since then, freedom ends where Washington Pentagon decided to it hadOct 21 02:59
resistorin 1984 the protectionism and corruption "made in usa" was pushed further, with their SCPAOct 21 03:00
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DaemonFCEveryone thought it would be Japanese TV sets that ate us alive and it just turned out to be cheap shit from China and Mexico under the same brands. You buy it, a year later it doesn't even work anymore. So you throw it in someone's lawn and head back up to Walmart.Oct 21 03:07
DaemonFCMinceR, See, my intention with that law was twofold, right?Oct 21 03:08
DaemonFCEventually we have all of the TVs in a single pile and we get a free space elevator out of it, and mjg59_ is underneath all of that.Oct 21 03:08
MinceRlolOct 21 03:11
MinceRi don't think it's that easy to build a space elevatorOct 21 03:11
reptilian_thrillsspace elevators should build themselvesOct 21 03:12
reptilian_thrillsand cost 5 centsOct 21 03:13
DaemonFC<resistor> in 1984 the protectionism and corruption "made in usa" was pushed further, with their SCPAOct 21 03:14
DaemonFCI didn't realize we did make anything.Oct 21 03:14
DaemonFCThe US Army sources uniforms and berets from China, guns from Italy.... I mean, it's ridiculous/Oct 21 03:15
resistorthat's the root of all evil: Pentagon, and 1984 was still "cold war" with Reagon in office, who aggressively pushed protectionismOct 21 03:15
DaemonFCWe don't even control stuff like this.Oct 21 03:15
resistori mean, east-germany couldn't have acquired a Zilog license, even if they had wanted toOct 21 03:15
DaemonFCDidn't the Soviets make an unlicensed clone of that anyway?Oct 21 03:15
resistor40 years later, that's still a notable demarcation line in history of computers, the Z80 eraOct 21 03:15
resistorbecause, any later is f*** beyond repair nowadaysOct 21 03:16
DaemonFCYou'd think a satellite state of theirs could get that.Oct 21 03:16
resistorwell, yes, that's a coincidence, Z80 era intersected with 1984 SCPA from Ronald ReaganOct 21 03:16
DaemonFCCommunism completely falls apart.Oct 21 03:16
DaemonFCExample: Coffee.Oct 21 03:16
resistorthat one wasn't that heavily fisted by anti-competitive habits of Shitel RAND Corp. CaliforniaOct 21 03:17
DaemonFCTheir government couldn't even get coffee. Soon it ended up in barter, supplying weapons to third world countries engaging in civil war, for coffee.Oct 21 03:17
resistoreast-germany did establish coffee planted in Vietnam, however those plants required time to grow, and once harvest was ready, east-germany had ceased to existOct 21 03:18
resistorand, there was coffee available, it was expensiveOct 21 03:18
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resistorDaemonFC: well yes, i am still digging inside the shattered peaces of the industry, of what they, USA, had smashed 40 years ago alreadyOct 21 03:20
resistorpiecesOct 21 03:20
resistorit's still hurting, the entire industryOct 21 03:21
resistorincluding USA itself, and Biddler being desperate to re-establish semiconductor manufacturing fabs in the land of the devil of hisOct 21 03:21
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resistoranyway, the approach from oasis linux is, to keep a small and (insufficiently) clean base-system, similar to BSD, with additional GNU dependency creep remaining 100% _optional_Oct 21 03:51
resistorand this is very difficult to accomplish, because GNU-toolchain itself requires GNU-buildsystem with a huge dependency graph of entangled problemsOct 21 03:52
resistorso, the idea is NOT to avoid GNU, the idea is to prevent it from sneaking into where they cause too much trouble _early_ during bootstrapping/system-integrationOct 21 03:52
resistorincluding various circular dependencies of GNU itselfOct 21 03:53
resistorand there is several approaches to accomplish GNU detanglement: tcc-toolchain (utilized for GNU-toolchain, see bootstrappable.org), oasis linux build-system, and *BSD seem to avoid GNU autotools/configure-fun inside their base-system too (not sure)Oct 21 03:54
resistorthat's why, whenever i see a GNU toolchain supplied by various vendors (and recently llvm/clang too), i know what to expect from thisOct 21 03:55
resistorit is not as bad as proprietary offerings, almost, because GNU and LLVM toolchains too are pestered with proprietary inter-dependenciesOct 21 03:56
resistorjust see for yourself, what gcc is, $ man gcc ; and how much clutter was added to it to support _proprietary_ malicious vendor-extensionsOct 21 03:57
DaemonFChttps://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/21/liz-truss-says-shell-resign-from-being-the-british-prime-minister-after-just-6-weeks-her-approval-is-12-her-disapproval-is-70/Oct 21 03:57
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resistorand most targets those "free software" toolchains support are themselves, proprietary and maliciousOct 21 03:57
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resistorthat's why, you can't just rely upon a GPL/GNU/FSF bannered hammered onto any supplied artifact, and say "see this is free software, let's celebrate"Oct 21 03:59
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DaemonFC"Elon Musk plans to lay off most of Twitter’s workforce if and when he becomes owner of the social media company, according to a report Thursday by The Washington Post."Oct 21 04:03
DaemonFCLOLOct 21 04:03
resistorand i mean, when GNU/FSF boast about some piece of Shitel RAND corp crap being reverse-engineered, i consider this an argument _AGAINST_ any such system which requires reverse-engineeringOct 21 04:04
resistorthere is that many problems with this approach, except if you consider reverse-engineering the objective of GNU/FSF/"free software", i don'tOct 21 04:05
DaemonFCCephied, Healthcare, San Francisco: 1,000 people sacked today. | Faire, Retail, San Francisco: 83 layoffs today | Sendoso, San Francisco, Undisclosed Number of layoffs today (Internal Memo).Oct 21 04:05
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR], ^Oct 21 04:05
DaemonFCFiserve, Wisconsin, Finance, 1,700 layoffsOct 21 04:06
DaemonFCLoom, San Francisco, Undisclosed Number of layoffs (Internal Memo)Oct 21 04:06
DaemonFCKhoros, Austin, TX, Marketing: 150 layoffs.Oct 21 04:06
DaemonFCAtoB, San Francisco, Transportation: 45 layoffs.Oct 21 04:07
DaemonFCLeafly, Seattle, Marijuana: 56 layoffs.Oct 21 04:07
DaemonFC(21% of the company. Real Buzzkill.)Oct 21 04:07
DaemonFCRoofstock, San Francisco, Real Estate: 100 layoffs (20% of the company)Oct 21 04:08
DaemonFCStarry, Boston, "Product": 508 layoffs. (Half the company.)Oct 21 04:08
DaemonFChttps://layoffstracker.com/starry-lays-off-50workforce-500-employees/ Oct 21 04:09
DaemonFChttps://layoffstracker.com/leafly-lays-off-56-employees-21-workforce/Oct 21 04:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Starry Lays off 50%Workforce – 500+ Employees - LayoffsTrackerOct 21 04:09
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DaemonFCMost of these layoffs were announced via LinkedIn.Oct 21 04:10
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR], Seems like half of San Francisco has been laid off in the past couple months.Oct 21 04:10
DaemonFCLinkedIn is mostly getting used as a way to announce the firings, not a jobs listing site.Oct 21 04:11
DaemonFChttps://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/news/2022/10/19/leafly-reducing-headcount-attrition-layoffs.htmlOct 21 04:12
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DaemonFCLOL, an app that helps people research Marijuana.Oct 21 04:12
DaemonFCThe people on Marijuana don't seem to be doing too much research.Oct 21 04:12
DaemonFCThe guy upstairs is coughing so bad he's either smoking pot or infected with COVID.Oct 21 04:12
DaemonFCJust like the rest of Waukegan.Oct 21 04:13
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AdmFubarcoing soon... google to buy m$? https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/21/windows_subsystem_for_android_released/Oct 21 06:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Windows Subsystem for Android declared ready for prime time • The RegisterOct 21 06:13
AdmFubarhttps://www.theregister.com/2022/10/20/basecamp_decamps_from_cloud/Oct 21 06:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Basecamp decamps from cloud: Renting computers a 'bad deal' • The RegisterOct 21 06:15
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DaemonFChttps://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2022/10/20/zeus-living-egomotion-layoffs-flexliving-startup.htmlOct 21 06:42
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DaemonFC"Effective Dec. 16 Zeus Living plans to cut 64 employees, or about 46% of its current 140-person team."Oct 21 06:42
DaemonFCSan FranciscoOct 21 06:42
DaemonFChttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-19/gopuff-fires-hundreds-more-staff-in-third-round-of-layoffsOct 21 06:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot?Oct 21 06:42
DaemonFC"Gopuff Fires Up to 250 More Employees Amid Slowing Economy"Oct 21 06:43
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR], NoPuffOct 21 06:43
DaemonFC"While Gopuff executives had intended to eliminate the roles months ago, employees were not notified until recently. In an email sent to some employees last week, vice president of people Karen Fascenda said “the delayed action was to ensure we maintain business continuity.” Fascenda added that the job cuts would “help to optimize for the company’s long-term success” and that “there are no plans for incremental layoffs.”"Oct 21 06:45
DaemonFCTranslation: If we told them they would have started looking for other jobs and so we let them know when it was convenient for _us_.Oct 21 06:45
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techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiOct 21 07:20
DaemonFChttps://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/20/facebook-shuttle-bus-drivers-face-layoffs-as-meta-slashes-costs-.htmlOct 21 07:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Facebook shuttle bus drivers face layoffs as Meta slashes costsOct 21 07:29
DaemonFChttps://www.indiewire.com/2022/10/criterion-layoffs-16-staffers-reorganization-1234774703/Oct 21 07:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Criterion Layoffs Affect 16 Staffers in ‘Reorganization’ Move | IndieWireOct 21 07:31
DaemonFChttps://nypost.com/2022/10/20/deutsche-bank-lays-off-bankers-as-dealmaking-dries-up-sources/Oct 21 07:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nypost.com | Deutsche Bank lays off bankers as dealmaking dries up: sourcesOct 21 07:31
DaemonFChttps://www.fiercepharma.com/manufacturing/jj-and-corning-put-more-100-new-york-jobs-chopping-block-latest-pharma-layoff-roundOct 21 07:31
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DaemonFCschestowitz[TR], https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/21/firefox-adds-more-problems-with-version-106-profile-guided-optimization-doesnt-work-with-gcc-changes-settings-themes-without-asking/Oct 21 07:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Firefox adds more problems with version 106. Profile Guided Optimization doesn’t work with GCC. Changes settings/themes without asking. | BaronHK's RantsOct 21 07:45
DaemonFCdraft errorOct 21 07:47
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techrights-news#Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, October 20, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintextOct 21 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin ArchivesOct 21 08:19
techrights-news#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharingOct 21 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS IndexOct 21 08:19
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiOct 21 08:20
techrights-news"Just as I was finished setting up all of the hardware, we noticed that our ISP had dropped off a modem for us after we had informed them that we had our own and just needed the service transferred. Reminding me that, of course, you just can't trust those assholes." gemini://gemini.hitchhiker-linux.org/gemlog/moving_day_is_over.gmiOct 21 08:25
techrights-newsAdvanced Linux Networks Command ⚓ https://linuxhint.com/advanced_linux_network_commands/ ䷉ Source: Linux Hint | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//linuxhint.com/advanced_linux_network_commands/Oct 21 08:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | Advanced Linux Networks CommandOct 21 08:32
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Fedora 37 Delayed ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Fedora_37_Delayed.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Fedora_37_Delayed.gmi ∎Oct 21 08:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Fedora 37 DelayedOct 21 08:36
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Wallpaper Contest for Xfce 4.18 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Wallpaper_Contest_for_Xfce_4_18.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Wallpaper_Contest_for_Xfce_4_18.gmi ∎Oct 21 08:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Wallpaper Contest for Xfce 4.18Oct 21 08:36
techrights-newsLogic to remove duplicate user-installed package ⚓ https://bkhome.org/news/202210/logic-to-remove-duplicate-user-installed-package.html ䷉ Source: Barry Kauler | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//bkhome.org/news/202210/logic-to-remove-duplicate-user-installed-package.htmlOct 21 08:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Logic to remove duplicate user-installed packageOct 21 08:38
techrights-news"Bush left with an 18% approval rating, being allowed to finish his second term." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/21/liz-truss-says-shell-resign-from-being-the-british-prime-minister-after-just-6-weeks-her-approval-is-12-her-disapproval-is-70/Oct 21 08:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Liz Truss says she’ll resign from being the British Prime Minister after just 6 weeks. Her approval is 12%. Her disapproval is 70%. | BaronHK's RantsOct 21 08:40
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/today_s_howtos.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/today_s_howtos.gmi ∎Oct 21 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's howtosOct 21 08:42
techrights-newsLinux NOT EVEN supported! But CNX goes with this trash as "Sponsored Post". Sellouts. https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/10/21/mobiletrans-secure-phone-to-phone-transfer-solution/Oct 21 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | MobileTrans - A secure phone-to-phone transfer solution (Sponsored) - CNX SoftwareOct 21 08:46
techrights-news"StarLabs, the British company whose laptops we've reviewed in several articles on this humble blog, has announced a bunch of brief detail about their upcoming laptop, the StarFighter, which will be available to pre-order in the next few days" https://www.linuxtechmore.com/2022/10/StarFighter-comes-with-tons-of-new-and-unique-features.htmlOct 21 08:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Resolving timed out after 10518 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.linuxtechmore.com/2022/10/StarFighter-comes-with-tons-of-new-and-unique-features.html )Oct 21 08:47
techrights-newsAnother seemingly paid-for piece: http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/20/7_Best_Linux_Distros_For_Laptop_in_2022.shtmlOct 21 08:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — 7 Best Linux Distros For Laptop in 2022 (UPDATED)Oct 21 08:47
techrights-newsMicrosoft cannot secure its own system. Of course it cannot secure yours, either. It does not even want to. ttps://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/10/microsoft-under-fire-for-response-to-leak-of-2-4tb-of-sensitive-customer-data/Oct 21 08:50
techrights-newsMicrosoft = layoffs, disaster. There's a headline saying "UBS to have 50% of applications running in Microsoft Azure cloud". Errr. no!! That's 2018 'news' (PR) RECYCLED. To make Microsoft seem like it's doing well. Azure had its SECOND round of AZURE layoffs this year!Oct 21 08:52
techrights-newsMicrosoft Azure: you will HEAR about every company we paid to become a client... over and over again. Because don't have many. Also: we're laying off lots of workers. Profitability targets unmet.Oct 21 08:53
techrights-newsIRC Proceedings: Thursday, October 20, 2022 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/10/21/irc-log-201022/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/21/irc-log-201022/Oct 21 08:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Thursday, October 20, 2022 | TechrightsOct 21 08:55
techrights-newsMight as well sign your own. Do not outsource "trust". https://www.tecmint.com/best-ssl-certificate-authorities/Oct 21 08:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | Best Free and Low-Cost SSL Certificate ProvidersOct 21 08:58
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schestowitz[TR]https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_ca/202205010481Oct 21 09:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opencorporates.com | NO TITLEOct 21 09:17
schestowitz[TR]net and his wifeOct 21 09:17
schestowitz[TR]*natOct 21 09:17
schestowitz[TR]Directors / OfficersOct 21 09:17
schestowitz[TR]CORPORATION SERVICE COMPANY, agentOct 21 09:17
schestowitz[TR]NATHANIEL FRIEDMANOct 21 09:17
schestowitz[TR]STEPHANIE SCHATZOct 21 09:17
schestowitz[TR]https://opencorporates.com/officers?jurisdiction_code=&q=Nathaniel+friedman+&utf8=✓Oct 21 09:18
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mjg59_Incorproating is a pretty standard thing to do in the US as a tax avoidance mechanismOct 21 09:18
schestowitz[TR]microsoft, github, xamarin.,..Oct 21 09:18
schestowitz[TR]ximianOct 21 09:18
mjg59_In itself, that's not really an indication of anythingOct 21 09:19
schestowitz[TR]still a "corporate vice president" at MicrosoftOct 21 09:19
schestowitz[TR]https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_tx/0010404606Oct 21 09:19
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techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiOct 21 09:20
schestowitz[TR]FursOct 21 09:20
schestowitz[TR]https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_oh/478567Oct 21 09:20
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schestowitz[TR]are they ripping animal apart for FUR?Oct 21 09:20
schestowitz[TR]maybe furs is a name?Oct 21 09:20
schestowitz[TR]Incorporation DateOct 21 09:20
schestowitz[TR]10 March 1976 (over 46 years ago)Oct 21 09:20
schestowitz[TR]probably animal abuseOct 21 09:20
schestowitz[TR]oh dearOct 21 09:21
schestowitz[TR]he is involved in a company that kills harmless animalsOct 21 09:21
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: Uh you're saying that Nat incorporated that company when he was -1 years old?Oct 21 09:21
schestowitz[TR]https://poshmark.com/listing/Brown-Mink-Fur-Shawl-5a809b75739d4879751d4b5bOct 21 09:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fettner Felix Friedman Furs | Jackets & Coats | Brown Mink Fur Shawl | PoshmarkOct 21 09:21
schestowitz[TR]minksOct 21 09:21
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: He's listed as an incorporator and agent from 1976, but Nat was born in 1977Oct 21 09:22
mjg59_schestowitz[TR]: Maybe this is a different Nat Friedman?Oct 21 09:22
reptilian_thrills <mjg59_> schestowitz[TR]: Uh you're saying that Nat incorporated that company when he was -1 years old? <- yes, but only for purposes of torturing animalsOct 21 09:22
schestowitz[TR]there is no D.Oct 21 09:22
schestowitz[TR]another personOct 21 09:22
schestowitz[TR]NATHANIEL JAY FRIEDMANOct 21 09:22
schestowitz[TR]I wonder how often the records get updatdOct 21 09:23
schestowitz[TR]it says he is still at MicrosoftOct 21 09:23
schestowitz[TR]probably untrueOct 21 09:23
mjg59_You just made an accusation about someone starting a company to kill animals before he was bornOct 21 09:23
reptilian_thrills You just made an accusation about someone starting a company to kill animals before he was born <- im going to say its just as true to say that roy was speculatingOct 21 09:24
reptilian_thrillshe was citing his sources and misunderstanding out loudOct 21 09:24
schestowitz[TR]I am brainstorming in IRCOct 21 09:24
schestowitz[TR]nat's friend shiver in their bootsOct 21 09:24
reptilian_thrillsif he had written an article about it you could probably say he was making an accusationOct 21 09:24
mjg59_09:21 < schestowitz[TR]> he is involved in a company that kills harmless animalsOct 21 09:24
schestowitz[TR]trying to convince me to no longer cover their scnadalsOct 21 09:24
schestowitz[TR]nat is a pervertOct 21 09:24
mjg59_That's not speculation, that's an assertionOct 21 09:24
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schestowitz[TR]and he would be employed nowhere if they knew himOct 21 09:24
reptilian_thrills<mjg59_> 09:21 < schestowitz[TR]> he is involved in a company that kills harmless animals <- yes, if we ignore the context of that line of text youre absolutely rightOct 21 09:24
schestowitz[TR]worse than being a transphobe 10 years ago like mjg59_ Oct 21 09:24
reptilian_thrillsand if we look at the context, youre taking it out of contextOct 21 09:24
schestowitz[TR]*20Oct 21 09:25
schestowitz[TR]20ishOct 21 09:25
schestowitz[TR]could be 10 too, but that was a typoOct 21 09:25
reptilian_thrillsyou corrected him, he found the error, theres nothing more to it than thatOct 21 09:25
mjg59_I think the last time I met Nat was before 2010, so definitely wouldn't consider him a friendOct 21 09:25
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schestowitz[TR]brbOct 21 09:25
reptilian_thrills the last time I met Nat <- i mean, you can be friends without meeting himOct 21 09:25
mjg59_reptilian_thrills: Eh it's more that in the absence of correction he'll go with the assertion and then consider it to be trueOct 21 09:25
schestowitz[TR]they literally BEG me to not write about themOct 21 09:26
reptilian_thrills <mjg59_> reptilian_thrills: Eh it's more that in the absence of correction he'll go with the assertion and then consider it to be true <- i consider it insubstantialOct 21 09:26
mjg59_Fair enoughOct 21 09:26
schestowitz[TR]begging from millioaniresOct 21 09:26
schestowitz[TR]that's ... richOct 21 09:26
mjg59_I'm not making a big deal of thisOct 21 09:26
reptilian_thrillsno, but its fun to watch the wheels turn with both of youOct 21 09:26
mjg59_I mean I didn't get a wedding invite or anythong from NatOct 21 09:27
reptilian_thrillsyou dont have identical styles, thats for sureOct 21 09:27
reptilian_thrillsI mean I didn't get a wedding invite or anythong from Nat <- yeah i have no idea what connection there is between youOct 21 09:27
reptilian_thrillsi dont know any big (direct) connection between github and the coup, and i would love toOct 21 09:27
reptilian_thrillsthe biggest group by far is debian. gnome features prominently. and red hat.Oct 21 09:27
reptilian_thrillsamong othersOct 21 09:27
mjg59_We were both contributing to GNOME in ~2002-2008, but that's itOct 21 09:28
DaemonFCmjg59_, Are you a friend of the Microsoft Strangler?Oct 21 09:28
reptilian_thrillsoh of courseOct 21 09:28
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reptilian_thrillsi think i came across his involvement with gnome just onceOct 21 09:28
mjg59_Initially I was working on accessibility software, then did a bunch of work on power managementOct 21 09:28
reptilian_thrillswaitOct 21 09:28
reptilian_thrillsnat friedman and de icazaOct 21 09:28
reptilian_thrillsof courseOct 21 09:28
schestowitz[TR]<resistor> linux 2.4 3million LoC (this was fat alread, and stuffed with corporate cancer such as ACPI), linux 5.10 30million LoC, and that's a death sentence to any decent kernelOct 21 09:28
mjg59_DaemonFC: As far as I know I've never met AlexOct 21 09:28
reptilian_thrillsthats the big connection Oct 21 09:29
mjg59_DaemonFC: He's definitely not on my contacts listOct 21 09:29
schestowitz[TR]iirc, he is still in planet gnomeOct 21 09:29
schestowitz[TR]or at least fedora and debianOct 21 09:29
reptilian_thrillsi mean i consider it all open sourceOct 21 09:29
reptilian_thrillsincluding gnomeOct 21 09:29
reptilian_thrillsand the purpose of open source is to take over free software and sell it off to corporationsOct 21 09:29
reptilian_thrillsmaybe originally, it was better than that. but it wasnt much betterOct 21 09:30
reptilian_thrillsi dont think either perens or esr intended it this wayOct 21 09:30
reptilian_thrillsbut perens was already complaining one year inOct 21 09:30
reptilian_thrillsmy guess is (always) that esr is a slave to his egoOct 21 09:30
DaemonFCmjg59_, You've defended Microsoft CoPilot, the copyright infringement tool written to attack Free Software. It was the product of a rapist and a strangler. A rapist and a strangler of immigrants.Oct 21 09:30
reptilian_thrillsand that it has caused him to fuck up everything he fooled himself into believing he was helpingOct 21 09:30
mjg59_Oh ESR's history proves he has no interest in free software, and anything associated with him is likely toxic to gree softwareOct 21 09:31
DaemonFCVery high ethical standards, right?Oct 21 09:31
DaemonFCOnly the finest people?Oct 21 09:31
reptilian_thrills Oh ESR's history proves he has no interest in free software <- im not equipped to argue with this and it supports my pointOct 21 09:31
mjg59_DaemonFC: Do you want "IP" law to apply to more things?Oct 21 09:31
reptilian_thrills and anything associated with him is likely toxic to gree software <- i think this is more of a personal opinion based on his characterOct 21 09:31
reptilian_thrillswhich we both agree (i assume) is batshit and too awful to be called simply "problematic"Oct 21 09:32
DaemonFCThey didn't train it on any of Microsoft's proprietary software so that it would insert pieces it learned from Windows or something in as a suggestion, did they Matt?Oct 21 09:32
DaemonFCSo that really undermines your argumentOct 21 09:32
reptilian_thrillsariadne calls him a white supremacist, and i consider her half-sceptic Oct 21 09:32
reptilian_thrills(in other words shes as likely to debunk a theory as support it)Oct 21 09:32
DaemonFCThey set it to learn from things that they don't hold any copyrights to.Oct 21 09:32
reptilian_thrillsi mean i consider debian and red hat toxic to free softwareOct 21 09:33
reptilian_thrillsthen again, debians ties to open source are foundationalOct 21 09:33
DaemonFCIf they trained it on a pile of Microsoft software, it would be about 6 times more likely to suggest some seriously broken code, according to figures from Coverity Scan, but that was proprietary software in general.Oct 21 09:33
reptilian_thrillsperhaps incidental, in a way, but foundational nonethelessOct 21 09:33
DaemonFCMicrosoft's is probably bad even by that standard if you go by how shitty Windows is.Oct 21 09:34
mjg59_My argument is not that Copilot is a moral good, my argument is that the free software community shouldn't have a reflex reaction to claim that laws that prevent the free exchange of ideas should apply to more thingsOct 21 09:35
DaemonFCWindows 8 was unbelievably shitty, Windows 10 was worse. I'm not seeing people say nice things about "11".Oct 21 09:35
DaemonFCWhen you literally violate the license of software by copy/pasting entire segments of it into your program.....Oct 21 09:35
reptilian_thrillsthe free software community shouldn't have a reflex reaction <- id protest, but the free software community seems to be on autopilot with nowhere to go and no idea where its goingOct 21 09:36
DaemonFCYou've violated copyright law, no matter where you got that idea from.Oct 21 09:36
DaemonFCCoPilot is just a partner in crime.Oct 21 09:36
reptilian_thrillsid protest because i dont like either side of the argument reallyOct 21 09:36
mjg59_Man the fucking starting point of free software was an objection to the idea that copyright should apply to softwareOct 21 09:36
reptilian_thrillsyes but theres a nuanceOct 21 09:36
DaemonFCWhen Microsoft open sources EVERYTHING and gives it away for free, I'll stop complaining about CoPilot.Oct 21 09:36
schestowitz[TR]BSOct 21 09:36
DaemonFCFair enough?Oct 21 09:36
mjg59_Which, we should remember, only came into existence as a concept in the 80sOct 21 09:36
schestowitz[TR]GNu revisonismOct 21 09:37
reptilian_thrillsi dont get the "in the 80s" stigmaOct 21 09:37
reptilian_thrillsthat just means it goes all the way back to the beginning of free software.Oct 21 09:37
mjg59_The fucking free software song explicitly disclaims the idea of software licenses!Oct 21 09:37
reptilian_thrillsall core tenets of free software (im sure there is an exception) goes back to "in the 80s" or even the 70sOct 21 09:37
DaemonFCThe GPL is a copyright license. It doesn't exist without the copyright laws.Oct 21 09:37
reptilian_thrillsThe fucking free software song explicitly disclaims the idea of software licenses! <- noOct 21 09:37
reptilian_thrillsonly dirty licensesOct 21 09:38
DaemonFCIt was a reaction to the new (at the time) idea that software could even be copyrighted at all.Oct 21 09:38
reptilian_thrillsi think its clear it refers to non-free licensesOct 21 09:38
reptilian_thrillsbut its implicitOct 21 09:38
mjg59_The GPL wouldn't work without software being copyrightableOct 21 09:38
DaemonFCThat would put us in a worse place than we are now.Oct 21 09:38
reptilian_thrillsand we agree that in a world without copyright, the gpl wouldnt be necessaryOct 21 09:38
mjg59_So before that became the legal status quo, there was no need for free softwareOct 21 09:38
reptilian_thrillsi mean, i can quibble that i may agree with that LESS than you doOct 21 09:39
mjg59_Because all software was freeOct 21 09:39
DaemonFCYou could just make it non-Free by only giving people binaries and refusing to turn over any source code.Oct 21 09:39
reptilian_thrillsbut i agree mostlyOct 21 09:39
DaemonFCAnd there'd be nothing to stop you.Oct 21 09:39
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reptilian_thrillsSo before that became the legal status quo, there was no need for free software <- i can point out the historical error youre makingOct 21 09:39
mjg59_I think a lot of people underestimate how easy reverse engineering isOct 21 09:39
DaemonFCEnding the notion of copyright law as it pertains to computer software, actually hurts Microsoft a lot less than Free Software.Oct 21 09:39
techrights-newsICBM Red Hat: You're using a MAC. Right? RIGHT? https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/10/21/rhel-9-and-single-node-openshift-vms-macos-venturaOct 21 09:40
DaemonFCBecause they already give you binaries and nothing else.Oct 21 09:40
mjg59_Oh ffsOct 21 09:40
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reptilian_thrillsi think a lot of engineers overestimate how easy it isOct 21 09:40
mjg59_LookOct 21 09:40
mjg59_YesOct 21 09:40
reptilian_thrillsespecially in terms of time wastedOct 21 09:40
mjg59_There's an obvious argument that copyright is what makes free software possible in its current formOct 21 09:40
DaemonFCAnd people already extensively "pirate" proprietary software. The only thing that changes is Microsoft can't sue people who are already judgment proof anyway.Oct 21 09:40
mjg59_But that's an argument based on the state of the reality we have, not an alternate realityOct 21 09:41
DaemonFCSo they lose nothing, really, if software can't be copyrighted.Oct 21 09:41
DaemonFCBut they can steal whatever they want and turn it into binaries.Oct 21 09:41
reptilian_thrillsbefore software became copyrightable in the united states in 1980Oct 21 09:41
DaemonFCWhich is what they intend for CoPilot to do.Oct 21 09:41
techrights-newsRed Hat targeting Apple customers instead of Free software hackers is typical of what it became under IBM. They don't even use their own products. http://techrights.org/2020/08/02/red-hat-layoffs/Oct 21 09:41
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reptilian_thrillsas that was the date in which the terms of the copyright extension act of 1976 went into effectOct 21 09:42
reptilian_thrillsnon-free software relied on those damn dirty ndasOct 21 09:42
mjg59_I think the moral ideology of free software is aligned with code not being copyrightableOct 21 09:42
reptilian_thrillsso as long as contract law exists-- and i think it will outlast copyrightOct 21 09:42
techrights-news"Privacy is a fundamental human right and Kenya’s constitution has important protections for privacy. Any laws or policies that seek to limit this right must be proportionate, necessary, and legal." https://www.accessnow.org/what-is-encryption-global-encryption-day-2022/Oct 21 09:42
mjg59_But we've confused that because the practical ideology of free software has developed in a universe where code *is* copyrightableOct 21 09:42
reptilian_thrillsan argument can be made (im NOT sure how strong an argument can be made) that without copyright, ndas could make software inaccessible in a way that copyleft could have helpedOct 21 09:43
reptilian_thrillsWITH THAT SAIDOct 21 09:43
mjg59_And so we make choices that are aligned with agreeing that code should be copyrightable, instead of fighting a court decision from the 80sOct 21 09:43
DaemonFCThe only harm that could possibly come from the end of software copyright to Microsoft is that, like, ReactOS and Wine wouldn't have to say they clean room reverse-engineered their Windows-like interfaces anymore.Oct 21 09:43
reptilian_thrillsi dont think thats a good enough reason to keep something as punch-yourselft-stupid as modern copyrightOct 21 09:43
DaemonFCThey could straight up find a leaked copy of XP or disassemble a dll from Windows 11.Oct 21 09:43
techrights-newsOPSOPSOPSOPSOPSOPSOPSOPSOPSOPS.... Red Hat all about the buzzwords these days. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/10/digital-transformation-mlops-best-practicesOct 21 09:43
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mjg59_If we're going to make ideological arguments they shouldn't be based on whether or not we benefitOct 21 09:43
reptilian_thrillsbut also, i think copyright is more likely to be abolished than rolled back to stallmans unicorn-rainbow-fart 5-year durationsOct 21 09:44
mjg59_The entire point of ideology is that it exists regardless of the impactOct 21 09:44
reptilian_thrillswhich in fairness lessig would probably love tooOct 21 09:44
reptilian_thrillsThe entire point of ideology is that it exists regardless of the impact <- this is the closest to full self-awareness i expectOct 21 09:44
mjg59_I'm fine with free software pragmatists arguing for stronger copyright lawOct 21 09:44
techrights-news"Digital transformation" = decommoditisation = moving to vendor lockin https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/10/digital-transformation-align-maintenance-productionOct 21 09:44
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reptilian_thrillsi mean thats mean, but its trueOct 21 09:44
reptilian_thrillsI'm fine with free software pragmatists arguing for stronger copyright law <- god, im notOct 21 09:45
DaemonFCI really doubt ReactOS would ever become usable with or without copyright law.Oct 21 09:45
mjg59_But free software ideologists shouldn't be making that argumentOct 21 09:45
reptilian_thrillsim not sure there are enough free software people left to divide them into campsOct 21 09:45
reptilian_thrillstheyre already in campsOct 21 09:45
DaemonFCMicrosoft is undoubtedly aware of it and they don't care because it only works in a VM and is really only about where Windows Server 2003's OS components were anyway.Oct 21 09:45
reptilian_thrillsbut so were a lot of ibm workers in the 1940sOct 21 09:45
DaemonFCThe idea of cloning Windows to use as an OS is a complete waste of time.Oct 21 09:46
DaemonFCThe only thing that comes of it that anyone can use are Wine contributions.Oct 21 09:46
reptilian_thrillsthats more than a cheap joke, theres SORT OF a point to mentioning thatOct 21 09:46
reptilian_thrillsin that free software is basically in a concentration camp and being killed offOct 21 09:46
reptilian_thrillsonly its not people, its projects.Oct 21 09:46
DaemonFCWindows is so poorly designed and has so much bloat that you'd need to copy from that it's an exercise in futility.Oct 21 09:46
DaemonFCAnd most of the stuff you get compatibility with if you do it right is malware.Oct 21 09:47
reptilian_thrillsand that camp is called githubschwitzOct 21 09:47
mjg59_I feel like an important point here is that there isn't a coherent statement about what free software *is* in 2022Oct 21 09:47
DaemonFCBecause the companies like Adobe are moving to Clown Computing anyway as their new DRM.Oct 21 09:47
mjg59_What are we fighting for?Oct 21 09:47
reptilian_thrillsthats a "play" on auschwitz, any resemblance to roys name is-- i cant help if hes germanOct 21 09:47
DaemonFCAnd you can't study how it works.Oct 21 09:47
mjg59_What are our goals?Oct 21 09:47
DaemonFCIt's on their server.Oct 21 09:47
reptilian_thrills <mjg59_> What are our goals? <- the key goals of free software are:Oct 21 09:47
reptilian_thrills1. for all software to be freeOct 21 09:47
reptilian_thrills2. for users to control their computingOct 21 09:47
mjg59_Yeah but that's just a recapitulation of the GNU manifestoOct 21 09:48
mjg59_How do we apply that to now?Oct 21 09:48
reptilian_thrillsthe fsf already stopped caring about the second part between 2011-2015Oct 21 09:48
mjg59_To be clear, I don't disagree!Oct 21 09:48
reptilian_thrills<mjg59_> How do we apply that to now? <- create another free software movement now that a bunch of an-coms smashed the first one.Oct 21 09:48
mjg59_But what is the practical transformation of this ideology into the real world?Oct 21 09:49
reptilian_thrillsbut this time we watch out more carefully for corporate takeover and an-coms who dont know what the fuck theyre doing.Oct 21 09:49
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reptilian_thrillsBut what is the practical transformation of this ideology into the real world? <- no point talking about the real world when its just coded language for capitalism taking over everything.Oct 21 09:49
mjg59_reptilian_thrills: I'm actually interested in how you'd describe your political ideologyOct 21 09:49
reptilian_thrillsif the point is to fix that, then theres a point.Oct 21 09:49
mjg59_Oh I'd happpily burn capitalism to the ground if I saw a plan to get to something betterOct 21 09:50
reptilian_thrillsin how you'd describe your political ideology <- im not likely to put that on a silver platter for you, but im happy to give you what i consider a useful starting point.Oct 21 09:50
DaemonFCmjg59_, Did you see Windows 95 as an Electron app? It was interesting. Reminded me of how Microsoft didn't used to vomit all over the place and call it a GUI.Oct 21 09:50
DaemonFCEvery piece of the GUI had a reason to actually be there.Oct 21 09:50
DaemonFCThey haven't managed to do this since then.Oct 21 09:50
reptilian_thrillsi was a small child when i got into computers. i was still pretty young when i got into "open source"Oct 21 09:51
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reptilian_thrillslate teens, early 20s, thereaboutsOct 21 09:51
reptilian_thrillsthis is relevant because my politics were not very developedOct 21 09:51
reptilian_thrillsthey were mainstreamOct 21 09:51
reptilian_thrillsi hated stupid wars (rarely theres a point but most wars are imperialist)Oct 21 09:52
reptilian_thrillsi figured there were two choicesOct 21 09:52
reptilian_thrillsi would have voted for al gore but there was a complication and i couldnt (its not that i wasnt legally allowed to vote)Oct 21 09:52
reptilian_thrillsback then i still thought democrats gave a shitOct 21 09:53
reptilian_thrillsthen 9/11 happenedOct 21 09:53
reptilian_thrillsive never supported the patriot nor will i ever vote for someone who supported the patriot actOct 21 09:53
reptilian_thrillsits just a giant shit on the constitutionOct 21 09:53
reptilian_thrillsso the republican party is dead to meOct 21 09:53
reptilian_thrillsafter obama, so is the democratic partyOct 21 09:54
reptilian_thrillsi liked him at firstOct 21 09:54
reptilian_thrillsi was in dc when he was elected. it was exciting as fuck.Oct 21 09:54
techrights-newsOpenwashing unwanted surveillance with euphemisms and Zemlin PAC (and its Microsoft/Gulag offshoot) https://opensource.com/article/22/10/observability-driven-development-opentelemetryOct 21 09:54
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reptilian_thrillsi could have met him years later but i didnt give a shit. hillary too.Oct 21 09:54
reptilian_thrillsanywayOct 21 09:54
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reptilian_thrillsi grew to think open source was bullshit and free software was honestOct 21 09:55
reptilian_thrillsat least the first half is true. the second half is at least relatively true.Oct 21 09:55
techrights-news"Last week I asked for testimonials for the FOSS Weekly newsletter and I have got a bunch of them. The difficult task is selecting and publishing a few from the lot. The testimonial page will be up after the Diwali festivities end, hopefully around Halloween." https://news.itsfoss.com/foss-weekly-22-39/Oct 21 09:55
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reptilian_thrillsbut also, the only people who seemed to give a shit about the constitution still were the libertariansOct 21 09:55
reptilian_thrillsi think thats funny now, but whateverOct 21 09:56
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reptilian_thrillsfree software made me more libertarian for a whileOct 21 09:56
reptilian_thrillsi didnt really put any stock in corporations, but i thought free software proved that with enough attention to detail, and enough integrityOct 21 09:56
reptilian_thrillsyou could push corporations to have "enlightened self-interest"Oct 21 09:56
reptilian_thrillsthat is now proven wrong imo.Oct 21 09:57
schestowitz[TR]bush believed in freedomOct 21 09:57
schestowitz[TR]RMS reminds usOct 21 09:57
schestowitz[TR]freedom cheapenedOct 21 09:57
schestowitz[TR]didn't bush get medal of liebrty tooOct 21 09:57
mjg59_Yeah I don't think we're going to win by virtue of convincing corporations this is a great planOct 21 09:57
reptilian_thrillsnoOct 21 09:57
reptilian_thrillstaking over corporations perhapsOct 21 09:57
schestowitz[TR]like rushOct 21 09:57
reptilian_thrillsconvincing them to do the right thing? neverOct 21 09:57
schestowitz[TR]rush managed to spread some brain cancer to other peopleOct 21 09:57
schestowitz[TR]because an actual brain cancel killed himOct 21 09:58
reptilian_thrillswatching corporations take over free software and watching the github monopoly in actionOct 21 09:58
reptilian_thrillswatching the fsf turn against its own mission convinced me of this muchOct 21 09:58
reptilian_thrillscapitalism will never allow humanity to move forwardOct 21 09:58
reptilian_thrillsit must die for humanity to move past this pointOct 21 09:58
schestowitz[TR]"move right over, rms and linus, we'll take it from here"Oct 21 09:58
reptilian_thrillsand it can die, i wish it could feel painOct 21 09:58
DaemonFCSo with Clown Computing and proprietary software already hiding how it works, what mjg59_ is arguing is that Free Software should have no copyright, so that large corporations can steal it, stick it on their server, modify it to do nasty things, and deprive the user of the ability to get a copy and run it themselves.Oct 21 09:59
schestowitz[TR][corporation violently adds microsoft github to linux, e.g. rust, whether anyone wants it or not"Oct 21 09:59
DaemonFCThen Free Software can wither and die after they've picked it clean.Oct 21 09:59
reptilian_thrillsnowOct 21 09:59
schestowitz[TR]"get out of the way, KID!"Oct 21 09:59
schestowitz[TR]"obkecting to rust is transphobic"Oct 21 09:59
reptilian_thrillsi am broadly speaking an anticapitalistOct 21 09:59
reptilian_thrillsi am still a libertarian at heart, but not necessarily in methodologyOct 21 09:59
reptilian_thrillsi still care about things libertarians care aboutOct 21 09:59
mjg59_DaemonFC: You argue for software being copyrightable, but you argue that HDCP is badOct 21 10:00
reptilian_thrillsand one thing the nutty right and the nutty left can join together on is that the workers should be armedOct 21 10:00
reptilian_thrillsi dont consider myself a centristOct 21 10:00
mjg59_DaemonFC: Where do you draw the line on freedoms being restricted?Oct 21 10:00
reptilian_thrillsbut i dont think cancel culture is stable enough to fix the damage the right doesOct 21 10:00
reptilian_thrillsthe left needs the workers.Oct 21 10:00
reptilian_thrillscancelling all the workers who are right wing isnt going to achieve that.Oct 21 10:00
reptilian_thrillsnot that cancel culture would, but its more of a sore on the arse of progress than a bastion of it.Oct 21 10:01
mjg59_I guess another point I feel I need to make is that we shouldn't consider software authors differentlyOct 21 10:01
reptilian_thrillswell im a hobbyist who thinks USERS should control THEIR computingOct 21 10:01
reptilian_thrillsand while i think everyone should learn to code...Oct 21 10:01
reptilian_thrillsim pretty tired of developers being cunts.Oct 21 10:01
mjg59_Any argument we apply to software should apply to any other field covered by copyrightOct 21 10:01
reptilian_thrillslennart is only the fucking archetype. there are so many like him.Oct 21 10:01
reptilian_thrillstheyre all open source.Oct 21 10:01
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reptilian_thrills Any argument we apply to software should apply to any other field covered by copyright <- so you want to ignore the ways in which software is actually differentOct 21 10:02
mjg59_And if we want certain rights around non-software, clearly we should have those rights for software as wellOct 21 10:02
reptilian_thrillsand always was differentOct 21 10:02
mjg59_(and vice versa)Oct 21 10:02
reptilian_thrillsthe fact is, copyright has ALWAYS applied differently to "useful works"Oct 21 10:02
reptilian_thrillsits right in article 1 section 8Oct 21 10:02
reptilian_thrillsand dont worry that usa isnt in the euOct 21 10:02
reptilian_thrillswhen it comes to copyright, everyone imports american bullshit.Oct 21 10:02
mjg59_reptilian_thrills: I'd actually love to have a good discussion about why software is different to, say, a textbook describing how to do a thingOct 21 10:02
reptilian_thrillslets not fool ourselvesOct 21 10:02
reptilian_thrillsI'd actually love to have a good discussion about why software is different to, say, a textbook describing how to do a thing <- im not at all familiar with the second example though.Oct 21 10:03
reptilian_thrillsits more about software vs music or artwork.Oct 21 10:03
mjg59_Oh yeah I just know more authors than I do people engaged in other forms of artOct 21 10:03
reptilian_thrillsnow, id like to point out-- if it were up to me, stallman for example, would COMPLETELY GRASP free culture, at least as well as lessig or even :| mako hillOct 21 10:04
reptilian_thrillsand i think stallman makes TOO MUCH of the difference. more than there is or should be.Oct 21 10:04
mjg59_If you want to make an argument that software is different from "art" then I'd embrace that!Oct 21 10:04
reptilian_thrillsbut you make too little of it-- strategies around copyright have to take into account (for now) Oct 21 10:04
reptilian_thrillsthe fact that hundreds of years of copyright distinguish these things.Oct 21 10:04
reptilian_thrillsthats not stallmans fault-- whats his fault is he makes too much of it.Oct 21 10:05
DaemonFC<mjg59_> DaemonFC: Where do you draw the line on freedoms being restricted?Oct 21 10:05
reptilian_thrills that software is different from "art" then I'd embrace that <- not only different from artOct 21 10:05
reptilian_thrillsbut the history of copyright distinguishes themOct 21 10:05
reptilian_thrillsthis is important because for example you cant copyright clothing or food.Oct 21 10:05
DaemonFCThe DMCA should be repealed, and then sabotaging DRM wouldn't be an offense anymore.Oct 21 10:05
DaemonFCWould it?Oct 21 10:05
mjg59_I don't think it's Stallman's fault that he took the position he did in 1984, but I do think it is that he didn't evolve his position in a coherent way as time progressedOct 21 10:05
reptilian_thrillsclothing you can protect trademarksOct 21 10:05
reptilian_thrills as time progressed <- this distinction hasnt changed fundamentally in two centuries.Oct 21 10:06
reptilian_thrillsfood you can copyright the expression in recipesOct 21 10:06
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reptilian_thrillsbut you cant copyright food or clothingOct 21 10:06
mjg59_reptilian_thrills: I think our understanding of what can be copyrighted vs what *should* be copyrighted has evolved to an extentOct 21 10:06
reptilian_thrillsunless they do fucked up bs to copyright-- and they certainly try Oct 21 10:06
mjg59_(This is basically the basis for every Cory Doctorow story)Oct 21 10:06
techrights-newsPhoronix has a "Microsoft" category now. Site going down the drain, writing for "engagement"... https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-Latest-Xbox-Rumble-DriverOct 21 10:07
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reptilian_thrillsif stallman makes too much of itOct 21 10:07
reptilian_thrillscory doctor makes a living based off itOct 21 10:07
reptilian_thrillsowOct 21 10:07
reptilian_thrillsive read several of his books and enjoyed themOct 21 10:07
reptilian_thrillsim not sure how useful he ultimately is to the discussionOct 21 10:07
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reptilian_thrillsbut perhaps hes very usefulOct 21 10:07
reptilian_thrillsim not sureOct 21 10:08
mjg59_Oh I was just using him as an example of someone observing the argumentsOct 21 10:08
mjg59_Also I need to interview a candidate in the morning, so I need to go to bed nowOct 21 10:08
reptilian_thrillsi prefer lessig to doctorowOct 21 10:08
mjg59_But I'm extremely interested in this topicOct 21 10:08
reptilian_thrillsits an important topicOct 21 10:08
reptilian_thrillsone the fsf could have gotten rightOct 21 10:08
mjg59_I haven't seen a coherent argument about how copyright should apply to software as a whole from a free software perspectiveOct 21 10:09
reptilian_thrillsfor years ive wished they would. moot now. for them at least.Oct 21 10:09
reptilian_thrillsits hard to make an applicable, useful argument about thatOct 21 10:09
mjg59_And that influences how we should perceive things like CopilotOct 21 10:09
reptilian_thrillsmoreso now that the movement is basically deadOct 21 10:09
reptilian_thrillsi guess copilot is a relevant thingOct 21 10:09
reptilian_thrillsbut i dont think free software is any position to fight it even if they should (or even if they shouldnt)Oct 21 10:10
reptilian_thrillsits probably just going to happen anywayOct 21 10:10
mjg59_Yeah it's not an easy topicOct 21 10:10
reptilian_thrillsthe fsf talks and then sthi happens either wayOct 21 10:10
reptilian_thrillsthese days they barely even talkOct 21 10:10
reptilian_thrillslike imo the whole thing about copilot is less the fsfOct 21 10:10
mjg59_Right? I'd love the FSF to express opinions on this in a coherent wayOct 21 10:10
reptilian_thrillsand more like water cooler discussion around what used to be the fsf officesOct 21 10:10
reptilian_thrills <mjg59_> Right? I'd love the FSF to express opinions on this in a coherent way <- i think the fsf is a non-profit shell corporation at this pointOct 21 10:11
reptilian_thrillsi think it has no legitimacy-- not just on a moral levelOct 21 10:11
mjg59_I wouldn't necessarily agree with the FSF, but having a position to start the conversation from is valuableOct 21 10:11
reptilian_thrillsi think it literally serves no purpose in line with its missionOct 21 10:11
reptilian_thrillshaving a position  <- having a position based on what? some staff? the inactive mailing lists? the lieplanet takeover?Oct 21 10:11
reptilian_thrillsthe treasurer/president?Oct 21 10:12
mjg59_Anyway I'm heading to bedOct 21 10:12
reptilian_thrillsyeah it was rhetorical anywayOct 21 10:12
mjg59_Because I think being tired whie interviewing a candidate is a disservice to the candidateOct 21 10:12
reptilian_thrillsvery much soOct 21 10:12
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reptilian_thrills Because I think being tired whie interviewing a candidate is a disservice to the candidate <- very much soOct 21 10:13
reptilian_thrillsit was ambiguous beforeOct 21 10:13
mjg59_But I think my summary is "We can't talk about whether Copilot is a threat to free software until we decide what free software's position on copyright is"Oct 21 10:13
reptilian_thrillsi can answer thatOct 21 10:14
reptilian_thrillsfree software doesnt have any real position leftOct 21 10:14
reptilian_thrillstheyre a non-profit-for-hireOct 21 10:14
reptilian_thrillsstick your hand up in it and make it talkOct 21 10:14
reptilian_thrillsi can separate the movement from the org, if there was one.Oct 21 10:14
techrights-news"Firefox adds more problems with version 106. Profile Guided Optimization doesn’t work with GCC." http://techrights.org/2022/10/21/mozilla-no-respect-for-consent/Oct 21 10:14
reptilian_thrillsi think they all fucked offOct 21 10:14
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reptilian_thrillshire the fsf to hire people to make breadtube videos that are vaguely about what free software used to be, but also mostly about sweet fuck-allOct 21 10:16
reptilian_thrillseven youtube does a better job than the fsf and it gets loads of shit wrongOct 21 10:18
reptilian_thrillsplus 99% of it is about open sourceOct 21 10:19
reptilian_thrillsbut the other part about free software is better than what the fsf does about itOct 21 10:19
reptilian_thrillseventually open source will be all there is, microsoft gnu and ibm gccOct 21 10:19
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reptilian_thrillssomebody stop them if they canOct 21 10:20
reptilian_thrillsopen source is fake as hellOct 21 10:20
reptilian_thrillsits like a mjg has a right to stand up for his partner. what person wouldnt stand up for their partner?Oct 21 10:33
reptilian_thrillswith that said, there are obvious questions (none of which are new) about his honesty, leading enough people (fsvo enough) to question whether his accusation about stallmans use of pronouns is honestOct 21 10:34
reptilian_thrillsnothing new there.Oct 21 10:34
reptilian_thrillsroy lied to stallman about me once. for that he can go to hell.Oct 21 10:34
reptilian_thrillsbut i say we pit roys bs against mjgs, and have roy use his CLOSE relationship to stallman to get to the bottom of mjgs accusationOct 21 10:35
reptilian_thrills <schestowitz[TR]> <- yes you fucking did, and i wont ever forgive you for thatOct 21 10:36
reptilian_thrillsbut back to the pointOct 21 10:36
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reptilian_thrillsactually, before i get back to the pointOct 21 10:37
reptilian_thrillsschestowitz__ figosdev no longer writes for us. On many things I agree with him, but it always disturbed me that he urged you to step down (also some of the things he wrote about the FSF, a sort of "throwing the baby out with the bathwater"). Jan 04 11:34 http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-040121.htmlOct 21 10:37
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reptilian_thrills"Not only is it ancient history, with no bearing on the present, but you had fully explained the context previously. For him to bring this up now is simply a smear" -- TomOct 21 10:37
reptilian_thrillsanyway, facts dont matter here. theres always bullshit and a mountain of bullshit weighs more than a simple fact, when facts dont fucking matter.Oct 21 10:38
reptilian_thrillsbut back to the point for real this timeOct 21 10:38
reptilian_thrillsarsehole.Oct 21 10:38
reptilian_thrillsroy should be able to solve this thing about stallman imoOct 21 10:39
reptilian_thrillsroy, being such an important key voice in the fight for software freedom (heh)Oct 21 10:39
reptilian_thrillsshould be able to get through the handlers and ask stallman if he indeed refused to use "they/them" for mjgs partnerOct 21 10:40
reptilian_thrillssomeone should, its a really important smear from one of the leaders of the coupOct 21 10:40
reptilian_thrillsand while i dont trust mjg per se, i cant deny that its just plausible enough. though i do give stallman more credit than that.Oct 21 10:41
reptilian_thrillsexposing this (potential) like would be very useful in ways that are obviousOct 21 10:41
reptilian_thrillsboth for stallmans sake and for the balance of power here.Oct 21 10:41
reptilian_thrillss/like/lieOct 21 10:42
*schestowitz[TR] backOct 21 10:42
schestowitz[TR](from exercise)Oct 21 10:42
reptilian_thrillsi betOct 21 10:42
schestowitz[TR]you don't remember it the ay it actually haaaappenedOct 21 10:42
schestowitz[TR]from what I recallOct 21 10:42
schestowitz[TR]johns and other sput pressure on RMSOct 21 10:42
schestowitz[TR]against TechrightsOct 21 10:42
schestowitz[TR]mostly because of namecalling in TROct 21 10:42
schestowitz[TR]from your articleOct 21 10:42
reptilian_thrillsi only have your directly quote (clearly about me, clearly to rms) from YOUR email.Oct 21 10:42
schestowitz[TR]RMS knew it was not a single authorOct 21 10:42
schestowitz[TR]lxo reminded himOct 21 10:42
schestowitz[TR]and at the end he was OK with it allOct 21 10:43
schestowitz[TR]TR is not one authorOct 21 10:43
reptilian_thrillsthats not relevant to my complaint, none of what you just said isOct 21 10:43
schestowitz[TR]RMSS does not relply much to anyone's email anymoreOct 21 10:43
reptilian_thrillsbut either way, this "stallman refuses to use they/them [even now]" thing is worth fixingOct 21 10:43
schestowitz[TR]he has "babysittiing"Oct 21 10:43
schestowitz[TR]afaik, even updates in his site are now moderatedOct 21 10:43
reptilian_thrillsRMSS does not relply much to anyone's email anymore <- im very aware of thisOct 21 10:43
schestowitz[TR]he has "caretaker" or 'caregiver'Oct 21 10:44
reptilian_thrillshe has "babysittiing <- and what does that say to YOU about the fsf?Oct 21 10:44
schestowitz[TR]sort of like what mary jo foley said about microsoftOct 21 10:44
schestowitz[TR]assigning 'buddies' to 'journalists'Oct 21 10:44
reptilian_thrillsi know what it makes very clear to meOct 21 10:44
schestowitz[TR]maybe same with torvaldsOct 21 10:44
schestowitz[TR]he uses lf addressOct 21 10:44
schestowitz[TR]so his bosses can read all his mailsOct 21 10:45
reptilian_thrillsive compared it to torvalds since day negative-80Oct 21 10:45
reptilian_thrillssince BEFORE the oustingOct 21 10:45
reptilian_thrills<schestowitz[TR]> so his bosses can read all his mail <- and they care about users privacy!Oct 21 10:45
reptilian_thrillsbut not founders!Oct 21 10:45
reptilian_thrillsRIGHT!Oct 21 10:45
schestowitz[TR]some of torvalds' bosses are 100% mirosoft staffOct 21 10:45
schestowitz[TR]so he probably cannot 'insult'' MicrosoftOct 21 10:45
reptilian_thrills some of torvalds' bosses are 100% mirosoft staff <- s/torvalds/stallman/ s/mirosoft/ibm/Oct 21 10:46
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reptilian_thrillsbut either way, this "stallman refuses to use they/them [even now]" thing is worth fixingOct 21 10:46
reptilian_thrillsthere has to be way Oct 21 10:46
reptilian_thrillstalk to dora.Oct 21 10:46
reptilian_thrillssomeone should talk to dora.Oct 21 10:46
techrights-news"It’s time to get me up to speed with modern CSS." ☛ https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/100daysof-day19/ | Source: Manuel MatuzovicOct 21 10:46
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reptilian_thrillsid say talk to lxo but eh, lxo is so loyal i dont even know if his reply is usefulOct 21 10:47
reptilian_thrillsid trust stallmans replyOct 21 10:47
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reptilian_thrillsdoras reply could be instructive at leastOct 21 10:47
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reptilian_thrillsbut having mjg say this over and over with no way to counter it is unfortunateOct 21 10:48
reptilian_thrillsstallmans legacy is important. id say his position is important if he fucking had a position.Oct 21 10:48
schestowitz[TR]sorry, on and off ircOct 21 10:49
schestowitz[TR]ye, dora is a curious oneOct 21 10:49
schestowitz[TR]I knew nothing about herOct 21 10:49
schestowitz[TR]until someone named herOct 21 10:49
schestowitz[TR]then I realised who she was and had a chatOct 21 10:49
schestowitz[TR]lkxo is publishing linux-libre fastOct 21 10:50
schestowitz[TR]he's on top of thingsOct 21 10:50
schestowitz[TR]*lxoOct 21 10:50
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schestowitz[TR]like within hoursOct 21 10:50
schestowitz[TR]getting things done is most importantOct 21 10:50
schestowitz[TR]the troilling and provocation try to disrupt thatOct 21 10:50
schestowitz[TR]and demoralise devsOct 21 10:51
schestowitz[TR]so nothinhg get s done or preojects get abandoned for emoptional reasonsOct 21 10:51
reptilian_thrillsthe accusation that stallman refuses to use pronouns lends credence to the anti-rms letterOct 21 10:51
techrights-news"This list is going to be short and there may be a sublist of distros with a medium strict standard." ☛ https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/2022/10/20/362/ | Source: Systemd FreeOct 21 10:51
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schestowitz[TR]lots of interesting stuff comine soonOct 21 10:51
schestowitz[TR]re githubOct 21 10:51
reptilian_thrillsthis says nothing at all about the many reasonable people who have defended himOct 21 10:51
reptilian_thrillsit doesnt make him a terrible personOct 21 10:52
reptilian_thrillsat most it makes him autistic imoOct 21 10:52
reptilian_thrillshowever, im not convinced he even refused.Oct 21 10:52
schestowitz[TR]turns out the person who  mjg59_'s spouse says raped her is close friends with Microsoft's serial stranglerOct 21 10:52
schestowitz[TR]the whole thing is messyOct 21 10:52
reptilian_thrillsmore to the pointOct 21 10:52
schestowitz[TR]many people connected there in SF< around MicrosoftOct 21 10:52
reptilian_thrills<schestowitz[TR]> turns out the person who  mjg59_'s spouse says raped her is close friends with Microsoft's serial strangler <- thats interesting. i think its already disputedOct 21 10:52
schestowitz[TR]Microsoft is the linkageOct 21 10:52
reptilian_thrillsbut facts can dispute disputations.Oct 21 10:52
reptilian_thrillsthe person who  mjg59_'s spouse says raped her <- mjg isnt married and his partner is not a her btwOct 21 10:53
techrights-news"Released Oct 20, 2022. (53rd OpenBSD release)" ☛ https://www.openbsd.org/72.html | Source: OpenBSDOct 21 10:53
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reptilian_thrillsim not here to make a thing out of that, its just for facts sakeOct 21 10:54
techrights-newsOPENBSD 7.2 ☛ https://www.talospace.com/2022/10/openbsd-72.html | Source: TalospaceOct 21 10:54
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reptilian_thrillsthe thing that mjg keeps saying about stallman doesnt really support the notion that stallman is a terrible personOct 21 10:55
reptilian_thrillswhat it DOES support however, is that the accusation of transphobia (while i think leahs commentary on that is the most useful here) wasnt COMPLETELY unsubstantiated.Oct 21 10:57
reptilian_thrillsand that bothers me more if its NOT trueOct 21 10:57
reptilian_thrillsits a shame if it is trueOct 21 10:57
reptilian_thrillsif its NOT true its just stallman-smearing. that bothers me.Oct 21 10:57
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reptilian_thrillsbut leahs position, and i hope i can do it justice here-- not to take it out of context or imply anything that wasnt saidOct 21 10:58
reptilian_thrillsis that regarding pronouns, stallman is an idiot.Oct 21 10:58
reptilian_thrillsor a fool. or the equivalent.Oct 21 10:58
reptilian_thrillsnot in general-- only regarding pronouns.Oct 21 10:59
reptilian_thrillsthat wasnt said a very long time ago, it was said here, in the past year or two.Oct 21 10:59
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reptilian_thrillsas far as i know it was based on his article about the topic-- which i think is UNNECESSARY (i dont agree with it) but "fair enough"Oct 21 10:59
reptilian_thrillsleahs take on it isnt unreasonable imoOct 21 11:00
reptilian_thrillsand leahs take while critical, doesnt hurt stallman or help the coupOct 21 11:00
reptilian_thrillsmjgs accusation does hurt stallman and/or help the coup, the question is how much substance there is to itOct 21 11:00
techrights-news"in October 2022, curl and libcurl combined consist of nearly 150,000 lines" ☛ https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/10/18/deviating-from-specs/ | Source: Daniel StenbergOct 21 11:01
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techrights-news"But when you write a proxy, you can trust no one." ☛ https://fasterthanli.me/articles/the-http-crash-course-nobody-asked-for | Source: Amos WengerOct 21 11:01
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reptilian_thrillspersonally i think singular they is a gift to humanity, and its been in use for longer than the word "transgender" has existed (since the 1960s)Oct 21 11:02
reptilian_thrillsits incredibly useful when you dont (or even cant) know the gender of the person youre referring toOct 21 11:02
reptilian_thrillsfor example, when theyre completely anonymous.Oct 21 11:02
reptilian_thrillsits usefulness goes far beyond trans rightsOct 21 11:03
reptilian_thrills when theyre completely anonymous <- perfect example imoOct 21 11:03
reptilian_thrillsthough i could have been referring to several people at onceOct 21 11:04
reptilian_thrills"they" doesnt fucking care.Oct 21 11:04
reptilian_thrillsits the honey badger of pronounsOct 21 11:04
reptilian_thrillsits the dynamic type of pronounsOct 21 11:04
reptilian_thrillsyoud expect a c-coder to be uncomfortable with itOct 21 11:04
reptilian_thrills(not that there arent plenty of c-coders who know better. you can implement dynamic typing in c)Oct 21 11:05
reptilian_thrillsturing completeness ftwOct 21 11:05
schestowitz[TR]imho:Oct 21 11:08
schestowitz[TR](still on and off irc)Oct 21 11:08
schestowitz[TR]this serves to distract from the workOct 21 11:08
schestowitz[TR]all this pronoun thingOct 21 11:08
schestowitz[TR]even if people take no positionsOct 21 11:08
reptilian_thrillsits relevant to the coupOct 21 11:08
schestowitz[TR]it's brought up as bait, quite a lot in factOct 21 11:08
reptilian_thrillsi refer to the anti-stallman letter as a bunch of liesOct 21 11:09
schestowitz[TR]so I say,Oct 21 11:09
schestowitz[TR]keep on codingOct 21 11:09
schestowitz[TR]and writingOct 21 11:09
reptilian_thrillsmjg basically wont shut up about somethign that supports that the letter isnt ENTIRELY dishonestOct 21 11:09
reptilian_thrillsid like it debunked. or confirmed.Oct 21 11:09
techrights-news"They do it by looking to see if Indexed Database API is available" ☛ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/20/t-mobile-joins-growing-number-of-sites-blocking-firefox-in-private-browsing-mode/ | Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer)Oct 21 11:09
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schestowitz[TR]^ dfcOct 21 11:10
schestowitz[TR]he wrote many things about the person who wants him blacklistedOct 21 11:10
schestowitz[TR]btwOct 21 11:10
reptilian_thrillsif it was confirmed we would have to face the fact that stallman wont use they because hes pedantic.Oct 21 11:10
schestowitz[TR]serious questionOct 21 11:10
schestowitz[TR]ask mjg if he also said "homophobic shit" 20 years agoOct 21 11:10
schestowitz[TR]I bet he didOct 21 11:10
reptilian_thrillshe wrote many things about the person who wants him blacklisted <- i dont need to be given reasons to be untrusting of the source.Oct 21 11:10
reptilian_thrillsi have as many reasons as you do.Oct 21 11:10
schestowitz[TR]and now he attacks gay peopleOct 21 11:10
schestowitz[TR]trying to make them persona non grataOct 21 11:10
reptilian_thrillsand now he attacks gay people <- thats very funnyOct 21 11:11
schestowitz[TR]for merely pointing how how terrible 'secure' boot isOct 21 11:11
schestowitz[TR]along with other 'secure core' BSOct 21 11:11
reptilian_thrillsfor merely pointing how how terrible 'secure' boot is <- maybe, probably not the only reasonOct 21 11:11
schestowitz[TR]but waitOct 21 11:11
schestowitz[TR]you mkiss the point :-)Oct 21 11:11
schestowitz[TR]he likes to accuse people like thisOct 21 11:11
reptilian_thrillsi dont agree with the pointOct 21 11:11
schestowitz[TR]you are "Transphobic" is you criticise some org or projectOct 21 11:12
reptilian_thrills he likes to accuse people like this <- this i agree with 100%Oct 21 11:12
schestowitz[TR]if some trans person is employed thereOct 21 11:12
schestowitz[TR]so I reciprocateOct 21 11:12
schestowitz[TR]he attacks dfcOct 21 11:12
schestowitz[TR]hence, he attacks gay peopleOct 21 11:12
schestowitz[TR]and I bet you he said homophobic "shit" 20 years aog tooOct 21 11:12
reptilian_thrills<schestowitz[TR]> so I reciprocate <- <schestowitz[TR]> hence, he attacks gay people <- and as a joke, thats greatOct 21 11:12
reptilian_thrillsit isOct 21 11:12
reptilian_thrillsit totally is Oct 21 11:12
schestowitz[TR]that often goes hand in hadn with transphobiaOct 21 11:12
reptilian_thrills and I bet you he said homophobic "shit" 20 years aog too <- the world was pretty homophobic 20 years ago Oct 21 11:13
techrights-news"But I'm not the only person that has pushed for programming just for fun: [...]" ☛ https://austinhenley.com/blog/programmingasplay.html | Source: Austin Z HenleyOct 21 11:13
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reptilian_thrillsmoreso 30 years agoOct 21 11:13
reptilian_thrillsa lot of the world still is ofcOct 21 11:14
techrights-news"I am happy to announce that curl receives funding from The Sovereign Tech Fund." ☛ https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/10/19/funded-curl-improvements/ | Source: Daniel StenbergOct 21 11:14
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reptilian_thrillspeople still get disowned by their parentsOct 21 11:15
reptilian_thrillsless now than thenOct 21 11:15
reptilian_thrillsthe way cancel culture works, a lot of people get cancelled for stances they dont even haveOct 21 11:16
reptilian_thrillsstallman really is not a misogynistOct 21 11:16
reptilian_thrillsbut was accused of suchOct 21 11:16
reptilian_thrillswe can basically prove its not trueOct 21 11:16
reptilian_thrillsa lot of people dont care about facts on the matter-- we can prove it, but the first rule of cancel culture is youre not allowed to winOct 21 11:17
reptilian_thrillsits nothing yossarian couldnt have told you aboutOct 21 11:17
reptilian_thrillsthe first rule of cancel culture is catch 22Oct 21 11:17
reptilian_thrillsmaybe theyre numbered in descending order, idkOct 21 11:18
reptilian_thrillsin more modern literature, catch 22 is one of the few unavoidable rules of calvinball.Oct 21 11:18
reptilian_thrillscalvinball is basically catch 22 made into a fun sportOct 21 11:19
techrights-news"The marketing for Functional Programming is made of technobabble." Smut HEY ON on the clown? ☛ https://alexn.org/blog/2022/10/19/cut-the-technobabble/ | Source: Alexandru NedelcuOct 21 11:19
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reptilian_thrillsthe rules are made up by the players, on the spot, and they can be effectively retroactiveOct 21 11:21
reptilian_thrillswhoever bullshits the best, wins-- but that doesnt really matter, as you can just keep playing and disqualifying the winOct 21 11:21
reptilian_thrillsits machavellian in natureOct 21 11:21
reptilian_thrillsin a cute wayOct 21 11:22
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reptilian_thrillscancel culture is mortal combat calvinballOct 21 11:24
reptilian_thrillswhoever bullshits the best wins, but the player on the accused team isnt allowed to Oct 21 11:24
reptilian_thrillsthe only thing theyre allowed to do is sufferOct 21 11:24
reptilian_thrillsits usually non-lethalOct 21 11:24
reptilian_thrillsi doubt that it didnt take a year or two off stallmans life-- i mean of course, on top of the year or two it already ruined of his lifeOct 21 11:25
techrights-news"From this aspect, the experience was great." ☛ https://jaylittle.com/post/view/2022/10/two-jobs-one-life-nothing-is-forever | Source: Jay LittleOct 21 11:25
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techrights-news"Meanwhile Amazon in particular is printing profits renting out servers at obscene margins." ☛ https://world.hey.com/dhh/why-we-re-leaving-the-cloud-654b47e0 |Oct 21 11:25
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reptilian_thrillshaving thousands of people trying to destroy you over whats generally bullshitOct 21 11:26
techrights-news"Over the past decade, cars have gotten more complex and computerized." ☛ https://www.wired.com/story/high-tech-cars-killing-the-traditional-auto-repair-shop/ | Source: WiredOct 21 11:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-High-Tech Cars Are Killing the Auto Repair Shop | WIREDOct 21 11:26
reptilian_thrillscan only be incredibly stressful, even for someone in their primeOct 21 11:27
reptilian_thrills i doubt that it didnt take a year or two off stallmans life <- the whole thing was sociopathicOct 21 11:28
reptilian_thrillsbut whoever heard of a friendly, caring mob?Oct 21 11:28
techrights-news[Old] "A Yubikey is this small piece of hardware device." ☛ https://tariosultan.com/blog/yubikey-ultimate-beginner-guide-how-to-setup |Oct 21 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tariosultan.com | Yubikey - The Ultimate Beginner Guide (How to Setup & Use)Oct 21 11:28
techrights-news"Our conversation has been edited and condensed for clarity." ☛ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/10/van-gogh-tomato-soup-national-gallery-london/671764/ | Source: The AtlanticOct 21 11:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | A Museum Security Expert on How to Protect Great Art - The AtlanticOct 21 11:29
techrights-news"A few weeks back I made the first alpha release of pizauth" ☛ https://tratt.net/laurie/blog/2022/pizauth_another_alpha_release.html | Source: Lawrence TrattOct 21 11:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cannot communicate securely with peer: no common encryption algorithm(s). ( status 0 @ https://tratt.net/laurie/blog/2022/pizauth_another_alpha_release.html )Oct 21 11:29
reptilian_thrills"gee, this is a nice place you got here. be a shame if someone sent you flowers or took you to lunch and got you away from work and stress for a while"Oct 21 11:29
reptilian_thrills"yeah, what my associate is trying to say is, youre okay-- also thats a nice tie"Oct 21 11:30
reptilian_thrills"why have we all got signs that say 'have a nice day'"Oct 21 11:30
techrights-news"Such biometric surveillance comes with new difficulties." ☛ https://digit.site36.net/2022/10/20/meeting-in-washington-eu-plans-biometric-super-database/ | Source: Site36Oct 21 11:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digit.site36.net | Meeting in Washington: EU plans biometric super database – Security Architectures in the EUOct 21 11:31
reptilian_thrills"because we arent that kind of mob"Oct 21 11:31
techrights-news"The Texas attorney general filed a privacy lawsuit against Gulag on Thursday" ☛ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/20/technology/texas-google-privacy-lawsuit.html | Source: New York TimesOct 21 11:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Texas Sues Google for Collecting Biometric Data Without Consent - The New York TimesOct 21 11:31
techrights-news"The chatcontrol regulation (see here for explanation) has been heavily criticized for various different reasons." ☛ https://maxim.tips/against-chatcontrol/ |Oct 21 11:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-maxim.tips | Everyone against chatcontrol - Maxim's BlogOct 21 11:31
reptilian_thrills"i guess that explains why so many people are carrying chocolates and flowers too"Oct 21 11:31
techrights-news"Ehteraz was a COVID-19 tracking app" ☛ https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/qatar-world-cup-visitors-cautioned-about-taking-mobiles.html | Source: IT WireOct 21 11:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Qatar World Cup visitors cautioned about taking mobilesOct 21 11:32
techrights-news"The one feature I want, which WhatsApp has and Signal does not, is the ability to easily export a chat to a text file." ☛ https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/10/interview-with-signals-new-president.html | Source: Bruce SchneierOct 21 11:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Interview with Signal’s New President - Schneier on SecurityOct 21 11:32
reptilian_thrills"oh look, a mob-- are they angry and vicious or do they look friendly"Oct 21 11:32
reptilian_thrills"its the friendly kind"Oct 21 11:32
reptilian_thrills"oh, let them in then"Oct 21 11:32
techrights-news"But messaging apps — especially encrypted messaging apps — are a complicated business. Governments around the world really dislike encrypted messaging and often push companies to put in backdoors" ☛ https://www.theverge.com/23409716/signal-encryption-messaging-sms-meredith-whittaker-imessage-whatsapp-china | Source: The VergeOct 21 11:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Why Signal won’t compromise on encryption, with president Meredith Whittaker - The VergeOct 21 11:32
reptilian_thrillsin freefall, when the anti-hero gets chased by an angry mob its customary to buy them ice cream after the chaseOct 21 11:33
reptilian_thrillshe gets chased by an angry mob a lot because hes more trouble than even stallmanOct 21 11:34
reptilian_thrillshes from a planet where pickpocketing is a national sport, and basically an ideal in their societyOct 21 11:35
reptilian_thrillsthe mayor wants him deadOct 21 11:35
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techrights-news"this is a story about whether a social platform" ☛ https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/18/23410512/meta-the-wire-facebook-xcheck-india-messy-fight | Source: The VergeOct 21 11:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Inside the messy fight between Meta and The Wire - The VergeOct 21 11:40
techrights-news"Bitcoin Fails to Produce 1 Block for Over an Hour" ☛ https://blog.dshr.org/2022/10/a-white-swan-event.html | Source: David RosenthalOct 21 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.dshr.org | DSHR's Blog: A White Swan EventOct 21 11:41
techrights-news"On October 12th, 2022, we received the following form letter" ☛ https://ar.al/2022/10/20/nlnet-grant-application-for-domain-rejected/ | Source: Aral BalkanOct 21 11:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ar.al | NLnet Grant Application for Domain Rejected – Aral BalkanOct 21 11:42
techrights-news"Throughout the book he looks at many instances of people who’ve become violent" ☛ https://danielmiessler.com/blog/humiliation-is-deadly/ | Source: Daniel MiesslerOct 21 11:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-danielmiessler.com | Humiliation is Deadly - Daniel MiesslerOct 21 11:43
techrights-news"The impact of such layoffs would likely be immediately felt by millions of users" ☛ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/10/20/musk-twitter-acquisition-staff-cuts/ | Source: The Washington PostOct 21 11:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Planned cuts at Twitter likely to hurt content moderation, user security - The Washington PostOct 21 11:43
reptilian_thrillsi know this is self-serving, but i can only conclude that half of twitter is stupid (which is probably a generous assessment)Oct 21 11:44
reptilian_thrillsMatthew Garrett @mjg59 1hOct 21 11:45
reptilian_thrillsQuestion: the Free Software Song says "We'll kick out those dirty licenses". Is this a rejection of licenses that constrain user freedom, or is a rejection of software being covered by copyright in the first place?Oct 21 11:45
reptilian_thrills50% Evil licenses are badOct 21 11:45
reptilian_thrills50% All licenses are badOct 21 11:45
reptilian_thrills122 votes • 22 hoursOct 21 11:45
techrights-news"Saad Ibrahim Almadi, a 72-year-old retired project manager living in Florida, was arrested last November while visiting family in the kingdom and was sentenced earlier this month, his son Ibrahim told The Associated Press" ☛ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/family-saudis-sentence-us-citizen-to-16-years-over-tweets/2022/10/18/91fbd360-4f0a-11ed-ada8-04e6e6bf8b19_story.html | Source: The Washington PostOct 21 11:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Family: Saudis sentence US citizen to 16 years over tweets - The Washington PostOct 21 11:45
reptilian_thrills61 people actually interpreted that as the free software song being against copyrightOct 21 11:45
techrights-newsReminder: money for the acquisition of Twitter comes from the barbaric 'royal' family of Saudi Barbaria. They also have moles and eyes from the inside of Twitter.Oct 21 11:45
reptilian_thrillsits worth mentioning that song was made up on the spot in a filk competition/festivalOct 21 11:46
techrights-news"American broadcasting company Cumulus Media abruptly announced Thursday during a morning talk show that it’s ending the KGO (810 AM) news-talk format as listeners know it" ☛ https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/SF-KGO-taken-off-air-17491656.php | Source: SFGateOct 21 11:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sfgate.com | KGO host talks about Bay Area radio station's abrupt signoffOct 21 11:46
reptilian_thrills 61 people actually interpreted <- im choosing to go with the assumption that the results are real. Oct 21 11:46
techrights-news"country that you can lose everything for practicing your free speech rights" ☛ https://alirezahayati.com/2022/10/20/occupied/ | Source: Ali Reza HayatiOct 21 11:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alirezahayati.com | Occupied - Ali Reza HayatiOct 21 11:46
reptilian_thrillsi think its interesting that its split 50/50 and find that much implausibleOct 21 11:47
techrights-news"In their response to an open letter sent by 54 Members of the European Parliament" ☛ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/attack-on-net-neutrality-eu-commission-remains-stubborn/ | Source: Patrick BreyerOct 21 11:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | Attack on net neutrality: EU Commission remains stubborn – Patrick BreyerOct 21 11:47
reptilian_thrillsbut i cant use that to prove or disprove anythingOct 21 11:47
reptilian_thrillsid have to know a LOT more about stats and probability to do thatOct 21 11:47
reptilian_thrillsi think only a scalia-like mindset could interpret it that wayOct 21 11:48
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reptilian_thrillsone that takes a pedantic words-of-the-world, no-death-of-the-author, this-phrase-out-of-context-is-all-that-matters-and-context-never-does approach to reach this conclusionOct 21 11:49
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reptilian_thrillsin context its fucking obvious it refers to evil licensesOct 21 11:50
reptilian_thrillswhat makes it refer to anything else? a very clear bias.Oct 21 11:50
reptilian_thrillsopen source specialises in contextectomiesOct 21 11:50
reptilian_thrillsand it drives this fuck-with-copyright-and-see-what-happens nonsenseOct 21 11:51
reptilian_thrillskuhn / copyleftcon / lf / etcOct 21 11:51
reptilian_thrillsused to be osi, but osi has disbandedOct 21 11:51
reptilian_thrillsits far from dead-- its lifeforce has moved out into the worldOct 21 11:51
techrights-news"The piracy [sic] liability trial between several major record labels and ISP Grande Communications is underway." ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/isp-surprises-record-labels-with-innocent-infringer-witness-at-piracy-trial-221020/ | Source: Torrent FreakOct 21 11:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ISP Surprises Record Labels with 'Innocent Infringer' Witness at Piracy Trial * TorrentFreakOct 21 11:52
techrights-news"The European Commission's work program for 2023 contains significant disappointment for rights holders." ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/ec-declines-to-end-live-piracy-now-but-offers-toolbox-to-fight-illegal-streams-221020/ | Source: Torrent FreakOct 21 11:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EC Declines to "End Live Piracy Now" But Offers 'Toolbox' to Fight Illegal Streams * TorrentFreakOct 21 11:52
reptilian_thrillsto take over fsf and help github Oct 21 11:52
schestowitz[TR]<reptilian_thrills> used to be osi, but osi has disbandedOct 21 11:52
schestowitz[TR]more like soldOct 21 11:52
schestowitz[TR]over time more people 'get' itOct 21 11:52
schestowitz[TR]btw, many people read the LF articles this week, ouyr articles about LFOct 21 11:52
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schestowitz[TR]over time more people catch up with what it really isOct 21 11:52
reptilian_thrillslf is dyingOct 21 11:53
schestowitz[TR]once they get past the smokescreeen of mascot linus and the "diversity"panderingOct 21 11:53
schestowitz[TR]LF standas for empireOct 21 11:53
schestowitz[TR]for back doorsOct 21 11:53
schestowitz[TR]foprcoercionOct 21 11:53
schestowitz[TR]and gpl violationsOct 21 11:53
schestowitz[TR]lf is onod dyingOct 21 11:53
schestowitz[TR]I never said it didOct 21 11:53
schestowitz[TR]its credibility erodesOct 21 11:53
reptilian_thrillshow many years do you give lf to fall apartOct 21 11:53
schestowitz[TR]except among those who take over itOct 21 11:53
schestowitz[TR]to  them, lf is an assetOct 21 11:53
reptilian_thrills its credibility erodes <- fair enoughOct 21 11:53
schestowitz[TR]of course it won't have much value when the public realises it's not the same lf where cto was ian murdockOct 21 11:54
schestowitz[TR]lf won't fall apartOct 21 11:54
schestowitz[TR]they never announce itOct 21 11:54
reptilian_thrillsidk, the fsf is useless but it still has funds to prop it up Oct 21 11:54
schestowitz[TR]like Microsoft productsOct 21 11:54
schestowitz[TR]they just qietly fadeOct 21 11:54
schestowitz[TR]like WSLOct 21 11:54
schestowitz[TR]remember KIN and Zune?Oct 21 11:55
schestowitz[TR]Silverlight?Oct 21 11:55
reptilian_thrillsi was just about to say "and zune"Oct 21 11:55
schestowitz[TR]how about mono?Oct 21 11:55
reptilian_thrillssilverlight, flash + monoOct 21 11:55
schestowitz[TR]you barely heard anything about mono anymoreOct 21 11:55
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schestowitz[TR]nat and miguel moved toi other stuffOct 21 11:55
reptilian_thrillsthen steve jobs was like "fuck you, adobe"Oct 21 11:55
reptilian_thrillsflash + mon <- conceptually that isOct 21 11:55
schestowitz[TR]you hear when the is a bankruptcyOct 21 11:55
schestowitz[TR]but not when the "last person flicks a switch"Oct 21 11:56
schestowitz[TR]the flicking is almost silentOct 21 11:56
schestowitz[TR]depending on thr switchOct 21 11:56
schestowitz[TR]and the media won't ever announce the switch-flickingOct 21 11:56
reptilian_thrillswell, take novellOct 21 11:56
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reptilian_thrillstheres no switch to flick offOct 21 11:56
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schestowitz[TR]novell is not deadOct 21 11:56
reptilian_thrillseverything was soldOct 21 11:56
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schestowitz[TR]go to novell.comOct 21 11:56
schestowitz[TR]it's a redirectionOct 21 11:56
reptilian_thrills<schestowitz[TR]> novell is not dead <- for the love of all thats holyOct 21 11:57
schestowitz[TR]elis is not deadOct 21 11:57
schestowitz[TR]elvisOct 21 11:57
reptilian_thrillsyou know when i bring up systemd being written by novell employeesOct 21 11:57
schestowitz[TR]he's living in paul mcccarhy's shoe rackOct 21 11:57
reptilian_thrillsim told novell is deadOct 21 11:57
reptilian_thrillsnow its not?Oct 21 11:57
schestowitz[TR]jokingOct 21 11:57
reptilian_thrillshe's living in paul mcccarhy's shoe rack <- im sure graceland is nicer than thatOct 21 11:57
reptilian_thrills<schestowitz[TR]> joking <- fair enoughOct 21 11:58
schestowitz[TR]kicking myself over failure to remember something from earlier this weekOct 21 11:58
schestowitz[TR]something that diedOct 21 11:58
reptilian_thrillsid be interestedOct 21 11:58
schestowitz[TR]but was never "officially" announced as suchOct 21 11:58
schestowitz[TR]I don't remember what that wasOct 21 11:58
reptilian_thrillswas it a company or a project of a company?Oct 21 11:58
schestowitz[TR]it's in irc logs anyway, and not importantOct 21 11:58
reptilian_thrillsbecause products die all the timeOct 21 11:58
schestowitz[TR]don't wait for the "sorry we're closed" signOct 21 11:58
schestowitz[TR]or zdnewt saying x is deadOct 21 11:58
reptilian_thrillsand not important <- no, only interestingOct 21 11:58
schestowitz[TR]they fadeOct 21 11:58
schestowitz[TR]and the death is never formally acknoledgedOct 21 11:58
schestowitz[TR]people just forgetOct 21 11:59
schestowitz[TR]all the shut down gulag and clown things go into "arhcive" or "maintenance"Oct 21 11:59
schestowitz[TR]or "our next phase"Oct 21 11:59
schestowitz[TR]and then they just die and go offlineOct 21 11:59
schestowitz[TR]nobody noticesOct 21 11:59
schestowitz[TR]how's Google Code doing?Oct 21 11:59
schestowitz[TR]CodePlex?Oct 21 11:59
reptilian_thrillsi think people noticed when google shut down plusOct 21 11:59
schestowitz[TR]they realised ages age there is no business model to itOct 21 11:59
schestowitz[TR]they need to employ many peoplleOct 21 12:00
reptilian_thrills CodePlex? <- beta version of githubOct 21 12:00
schestowitz[TR]to check you don't host malwareOct 21 12:00
schestowitz[TR]or tamper with their systemsOct 21 12:00
schestowitz[TR]then you need to moiderateOct 21 12:00
schestowitz[TR]like if people upload isis decapitation videos or CPOct 21 12:00
schestowitz[TR]so they shut downOct 21 12:00
reptilian_thrillseverything in moderation, including moderationOct 21 12:00
schestowitz[TR]codeplex is microsoft's answer to gulag codeOct 21 12:00
schestowitz[TR]which tries to take on sourceforgeOct 21 12:00
schestowitz[TR]sourceforge used malware/adware tacticsOct 21 12:01
schestowitz[TR]to try to make money off ofm popular downloads such as gimpOct 21 12:01
reptilian_thrillsgithub is microsofts final solution to free softwareOct 21 12:01
reptilian_thrills sourceforge used malware/adware tactic <- not under original or present ownersOct 21 12:01
reptilian_thrillsbut yesOct 21 12:01
schestowitz[TR]well, the final solution failedOct 21 12:01
schestowitz[TR]germany was in rubbleOct 21 12:01
schestowitz[TR]and never recoveredOct 21 12:01
schestowitz[TR]sure, they did a lot of damage to europeOct 21 12:01
reptilian_thrillswell, the final solution failed <- genocide is often incompleteOct 21 12:01
reptilian_thrillsbut still devastatingOct 21 12:02
schestowitz[TR]about 50 million killed, not counting chinaOct 21 12:02
reptilian_thrillsmillions deadOct 21 12:02
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schestowitz[TR]mao's revolution is another killerOct 21 12:02
reptilian_thrillsmost communism in the world is based on stalinismOct 21 12:02
reptilian_thrillsstalinism was a really fucked up "version" of marxismOct 21 12:02
schestowitz[TR]btw, a lot of berlin looks awfulOct 21 12:03
schestowitz[TR]esp. former eastOct 21 12:03
reptilian_thrillsmost of the world didnt even SEE marxism until stalin showed it to themOct 21 12:03
reptilian_thrillsand by then it was completely fuckedOct 21 12:03
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): What? The Steam snap is evolving! ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/What_The_Steam_snap_is_evolving.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/What_The_Steam_snap_is_evolving.gmi ∎Oct 21 12:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — What? The Steam snap is evolving!Oct 21 12:03
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Android_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Android_Leftovers.gmi ∎Oct 21 12:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Android LeftoversOct 21 12:03
techrights-news"Excited? Let’s jump straight into our highlights." ☛ https://ubuntu.com//blog/whats-new-in-ubuntu-desktop-22-10-kinetic-kudu | Source: UbuntuOct 21 12:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What’s new in Ubuntu Desktop 22.10, Kinetic Kudu | UbuntuOct 21 12:04
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techrights-newsKSA https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/18/saudi-arabia-us-citizen-prison-critical-tweets-regimeOct 21 12:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Saudi Arabia sentences US citizen to 16 years over tweets critical of regime | Saudi Arabia | The GuardianOct 21 12:06
schestowitz[TR]"misguided or troll" https://mastodon.social/@thomasfuchs/109119178051486746Oct 21 12:09
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techrights-news"A205E Carrier Board which is compatible with Jetson Nano/Xavier NX" ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/carrier-board-supports-jetson-nano-nx-modules/ | Source: Linux GizmosOct 21 12:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/carrier-board-supports-jetson-nano-nx-modules/ )Oct 21 12:10
techrights-newsdamage from closed source algorithms https://www.propublica.org/article/yieldstar-rent-increase-realpage-rentOct 21 12:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | How a Secret Rent Algorithm Pushes Rents Higher — ProPublicaOct 21 12:11
techrights-newsbusiness models https://pluralistic.net/tag/felony-contempt-of-business-model/Oct 21 12:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pluralistic.net | felony contempt of business model – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory DoctorowOct 21 12:11
techrights-newsdoctorow outsourced https://doctorow.medium.com/it-was-all-downhill-after-the-cuecat-cf8ecb250db2 medium paywallOct 21 12:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-doctorow.medium.com | It was all downhill after the Cuecat | by Cory Doctorow | Oct, 2022 | MediumOct 21 12:12
techrights-newsiophk: ok, now they've gone after the small fish, what about the big ones like Microsoft? https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/20/technology/texas-google-privacy-lawsuit.htmlOct 21 12:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Texas Sues Google for Collecting Biometric Data Without Consent - The New York TimesOct 21 12:12
techrights-newsGAFAM https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/10/19/facebook-and-google-for-downgrading-humanity/Oct 21 12:12
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techrights-news"We will explain the installation of the Steam application through the following ways" ☛ https://vitux.com/ubuntu-steam/ | Source: VituxOct 21 12:14
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techrights-news"Snapshots of openSUSE Tumbleweed rolled out consistently this week." ☛ https://news.opensuse.org/2022/10/20/audacity-gear-gpg-update-in-tw/ | Source: OpenSUSEOct 21 12:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | Audacity, Gear, GPG update in Tumbleweed - openSUSE NewsOct 21 12:14
techrights-news"Congratulations to Ubuntu community [sic] worldwide as Ubuntu 22.10 codenamed Kinetic Kudu has been released" ☛ https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/10/download-ubuntu-2210-kinetic-kudu-all-flavors-with-mirrors-torrents-and-checksums.html | Source: UbuntubuzzOct 21 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntubuzz.com | Download Ubuntu 22.10 Kinetic Kudu All Flavors with Mirrors, Torrents and ChecksumsOct 21 12:15
techrights-newsQt Creator 8.0.2 released ⚓ https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-creator-8.0.2-released ䷉ Source: Qt | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.qt.io/blog/qt-creator-8.0.2-releasedOct 21 12:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qt.io | Qt Creator 8.0.2 releasedOct 21 12:18
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techrights-newsGardiner Bryant for Microsoft's proprietary garbage. AKA "Linux Gamer"... now just Steam (DRM) shill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky7-vdorVC0Oct 21 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://youtube.076.ne.jp/watch?v=ky7-vdorVC0Oct 21 12:20
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiOct 21 12:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> youtube.076.ne.jp | UPDATED: Play Minecraft on your Steam Deck the EASY WAY. - InvidiousOct 21 12:20
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/today_s_howtos.1.gmi ∎Oct 21 12:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's howtosOct 21 12:22
techrights-news"In this post, we will learn how to configure proxy for apt command on Ubuntu and Debian systems" ☛ https://www.linuxbuzz.com/how-to-configure-proxy-for-apt-command/ | Source: Linux BuzzOct 21 12:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxbuzz.com | How to configure proxy for apt command on Ubuntu and DebianOct 21 12:24
techrights-newsVampire Survivors ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/vampire-survivors-started-a-craze-and-the-10-release-is-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxOct 21 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vampire Survivors started a craze and the 1.0 release is out now | GamingOnLinuxOct 21 12:28
techrights-news"Have you seen the Deckmate yet?" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/an-interview-with-the-creator-of-deckmate-the-steam-deck-attachment-system/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxOct 21 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-An interview with the creator of Deckmate, the Steam Deck attachment system | GamingOnLinuxOct 21 12:28
techrights-news"Valve has now taken it down." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/someone-released-the-foss-rts-0-ad-on-steam-without-speaking-to-the-developers/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxOct 21 12:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Someone released the FOSS RTS 0 A.D. on Steam without speaking to the developers | GamingOnLinuxOct 21 12:28
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reptilian_thrillsandreas fuchs signed the anti-stallman letterOct 21 12:31
reptilian_thrillsi dont know if its the same one but theres a github user named andreasfuchstpmOct 21 12:31
reptilian_thrillspretty clear what that "rivalry" is about t henOct 21 12:32
reptilian_thrillsoh you dont like tpm huh, well, guess what?Oct 21 12:32
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reptilian_thrillsbut i dont know how many andreas fucks there areOct 21 12:32
reptilian_thrillsthey can certainly andreas fucks themselvesOct 21 12:32
reptilian_thrillsor fuch themselvesOct 21 12:33
schestowitz[TR]at first I thought it was fuchs from freenodeOct 21 12:35
schestowitz[TR]and now liberal.shitOct 21 12:35
schestowitz[TR]liberal as in centrist/corporateOct 21 12:35
schestowitz[TR]I'm pro-leftOct 21 12:35
schestowitz[TR]these people are not really leftOct 21 12:35
reptilian_thrills<schestowitz[TR]> and now liberal.shit <- lolOct 21 12:35
schestowitz[TR]they're conformists, "The System"Oct 21 12:35
reptilian_thrills/me knows a nice person from liberal.chat but it hasnt changed my opinion of the placeOct 21 12:35
schestowitz[TR]I spoke by email to fucks from freenodeOct 21 12:36
reptilian_thrillsalso leah is there i believeOct 21 12:36
schestowitz[TR]when freenode was about to colapseOct 21 12:36
schestowitz[TR]he's based in the land of chocolateOct 21 12:36
schestowitz[TR]like pcockOct 21 12:36
schestowitz[TR]but vvery different viewsOct 21 12:36
reptilian_thrillsim never entirely sure what pococks views areOct 21 12:36
reptilian_thrillshe was very useful in exposing fsfe at a time when it was desperately neededOct 21 12:37
techrights-news"The point and click adventure genre is not only alive and well, it's positively thriving." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/fab-looking-western-adventure-rosewater-gets-a-big-demo-update-with-voice-actors/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxOct 21 12:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fab looking western adventure Rosewater gets a big demo update with voice actors | GamingOnLinuxOct 21 12:37
schestowitz[TR]fsfe is very quiet this yearOct 21 12:37
schestowitz[TR]very very quietOct 21 12:37
schestowitz[TR]the fsfe's chief seems to be going soloOct 21 12:37
schestowitz[TR]trying to sell booksOct 21 12:37
reptilian_thrills<schestowitz[TR]> trying to sell books <- hopefully he drops them on his dickOct 21 12:38
techrights-newsRelaying spam for AMD. Nothing to do with Linux, Liam. Come on, man.... https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/amd-to-fully-reveal-next-gen-amd-radeon-rdna-3-in-november/Oct 21 12:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD to fully reveal next-gen AMD Radeon RDNA 3 in November | GamingOnLinuxOct 21 12:38
schestowitz[TR]reptilian_thrills: it would not hurtOct 21 12:39
schestowitz[TR]unless he was in split oon the floorOct 21 12:39
schestowitz[TR]or dropped them on a tableOct 21 12:39
schestowitz[TR]and even then... never mindOct 21 12:39
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reptilian_thrillsi dunnoOct 21 12:39
reptilian_thrillsbooks have corners...Oct 21 12:39
schestowitz[TR]yeah, but you need a hard surfaceOct 21 12:40
schestowitz[TR]table, floorOct 21 12:40
reptilian_thrillsa book is a hard surfaceOct 21 12:40
schestowitz[TR]fsfe talks canceledOct 21 12:40
reptilian_thrillsim guessing your phd is not in topology Oct 21 12:40
schestowitz[TR]reason: injury, unspecifiedOct 21 12:40
reptilian_thrills reason: injury, unspecified <- maybe he dropped some books in an uncomfortable placeOct 21 12:40
schestowitz[TR]but it seems dsoftbackOct 21 12:41
schestowitz[TR]I can che ck to be sureOct 21 12:41
schestowitz[TR]he cannot write a long, thick bookOct 21 12:41
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schestowitz[TR]not even in his natire tongueOct 21 12:41
schestowitz[TR]he targets the books at kidsOct 21 12:41
schestowitz[TR]some illustrator does the pictureOct 21 12:41
reptilian_thrillswell he shouldnt drop books on any parts of a kid obviouslyOct 21 12:41
reptilian_thrillssome illustrator does the picture <- thats how it usually worksOct 21 12:42
schestowitz[TR]or he may get bookedOct 21 12:42
reptilian_thrillsahaOct 21 12:42
schestowitz[TR]booked to deathOct 21 12:42
schestowitz[TR]like women in pakistanOct 21 12:42
schestowitz[TR](uaulyl remote villages still do stoning)Oct 21 12:42
reptilian_thrillsi dont know how he can put a book together-- the administration of the fsfe is spinelessOct 21 12:42
schestowitz[TR]they tried to remove my tweetsOct 21 12:42
schestowitz[TR]and my accountOct 21 12:42
schestowitz[TR]they also paid a nasty law firm to send threats to pocockOct 21 12:43
reptilian_thrillswhich firmOct 21 12:43
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schestowitz[TR]bird and birOct 21 12:45
schestowitz[TR]*birdOct 21 12:45
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/2020/08/29/debian-threats-bird-and-bird/Oct 21 12:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Miriam Ballhausen and Debian Money, DebConf Online, Insulting a Volunteer at a Time of Grief | TechrightsOct 21 12:45
schestowitz[TR]same Bird & Bird: http://techrights.org/2020/08/17/goodbye-team-upc/  http://techrights.org/2020/10/08/wouter-pors-on-upc/Oct 21 12:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Team UPC Has Almost Vanished | TechrightsOct 21 12:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | This Did Not Age Well: UPC to Start… 5 Years Ago | TechrightsOct 21 12:45
techrights-news"A much loved action-horror classic Silent Hill 2 is getting a modern remake" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/silent-hill-2-remake-announced-and-coming-to-steam/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxOct 21 12:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Silent Hill 2 remake announced and coming to Steam | GamingOnLinuxOct 21 12:45
techrights-news"UNCHARTED: Legacy of Thieves Collection out now and Steam Deck Verified" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/uncharted-is-great-on-steam-deck-heres-how-to-fix-it-on-linux-desktop/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxOct 21 12:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UNCHARTED is great on Steam Deck! Here's how to fix it on Linux desktop | GamingOnLinuxOct 21 12:46
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reptilian_thrillshttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=9Gc4QTqslN4Oct 21 12:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | The Trashmen - Surfin Bird - Bird is the Word 1963 (RE-MASTERED) (ALT End Video) (OFFICIAL VIDEO) - InvidiousOct 21 12:46
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Games: Vampire Survivors, Deckmate, 0 A.D., and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Games_Vampire_Survivors_Deckmate_0_A_D_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Games_Vampire_Survivors_Deckmate_0_A_D_and_More.gmi ∎Oct 21 12:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Games: Vampire Survivors, Deckmate, 0 A.D., and MoreOct 21 12:55
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techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiOct 21 13:20
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techrights-news"In the U.S. we have the novel and uniquely widespread phenomenon of vehicular homelessness" ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/21/homeless-in-america-2/ | Source: Counter PunchOct 21 13:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Homeless in America - CounterPunch.orgOct 21 13:28
techrights-newsRising Fascism in America: It Can Happen Here ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/21/democracy-under-siege-new-polling-reveals-anxieties-over-the-future-of-the-republic/ | Source: Counter PunchOct 21 13:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Democracy Under Siege? New Polling Reveals Anxieties Over the Future of the Republic - CounterPunch.orgOct 21 13:30
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techrights-newsGOP ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/21/gop-solutions-will-only-make-inflation-worse/ | Source: Counter PunchOct 21 13:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GOP Solutions Will Only Make Inflation Worse - CounterPunch.orgOct 21 13:51
techrights-newsIronically, Pro Publica bags bribes from famous criminal who spreads toxic (carcinogen) chemicals for profit. His name if Bill Gates. ☛ https://www.propublica.org/getinvolved/have-you-worked-with-hazardous-chemicalsOct 21 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | Do You Work With These Hazardous Chemicals? Tell Us About It. — ProPublicaOct 21 13:55
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MinceRhttps://apina.biz/22755.jpeg?mode=sfwOct 21 14:15
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techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiOct 21 14:20
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techrights-news"it seemed fairly obvious how all of this was going to go down." ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/20/new-york-wants-to-destroy-free-speech-online-to-cover-up-for-their-own-failings-regarding-the-buffalo-shooting/ | Source: TechdirtOct 21 14:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New York Wants To Destroy Free Speech Online To Cover Up For Their Own Failings Regarding The Buffalo Shooting | TechdirtOct 21 14:27
techrights-newsSLAPP ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/20/some-good-news-planet-aid-agrees-to-pay-1-9-million-to-settle-its-slapp-suit-against-reveal-news/ | Source: TechdirtOct 21 14:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Some Good News: Planet Aid Agrees To Pay $1.9 Million To Settle Its SLAPP Suit Against Reveal News | TechdirtOct 21 14:28
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techrights-news"immigration" as spies ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/20/uk-immigration-officials-get-ice-y-scrape-phone-data-to-ring-up-an-immigrant-for-working-too-many-hours/ | Source: TechdirtOct 21 14:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UK Immigration Officials Get ICE-y; Scrape Phone Data To Ring Up An Immigrant For Working Too Many Hours | TechdirtOct 21 14:30
techrights-news"What sets the Thelio desktop line apart from other desktops is its system-specific thermal engineering" ☛ https://fossforce.com/2022/10/system76-moves-thelio-to-latest-intel-amd-chips/ | Source: Unicorn MediaOct 21 14:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | System76 Moves Thelio to Latest Intel & AMD Chips - FOSS ForceOct 21 14:32
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techrights-newsassange ☛ https://thedissenter.org/manning-book-complicates-us-govt-case-assange/ | Source: The DissenterOct 21 14:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thedissenter.org | Chelsea Manning's Book Undercuts US Case Against AssangeOct 21 14:35
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techrights-news"This is an interim release, meaning it will only be supported for nine months." ☛ https://fossforce.com/2022/10/ubuntus-kinetic-kudu-22-10-released-whats-new-for-desktop-server/ | Source: Unicorn MediaOct 21 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Ubuntu's Kinetic Kudu 22.10 Released: What's New for Desktop & Server - FOSS ForceOct 21 14:45
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techrights-newsMicrosoft is fake ☛ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/10/battle-with-bots-prompts-mass-purge-of-amazon-apple-employee-accounts-on-linkedin/ | Source: Krebs On SecurityOct 21 14:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | Battle with Bots Prompts Mass Purge of Amazon, Apple Employee Accounts on LinkedIn – Krebs on SecurityOct 21 14:55
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techrights-newsdebt ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/americorps-student-loan-debt-forgiveness-biden/ | Source: The NationOct 21 15:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Biden Should Invest in Communities, Not More Community Service | The NationOct 21 15:04
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techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiOct 21 15:20
psydruidlf is a Microsoft (and more) proxyOct 21 15:23
psydruid"Linus, how is that proxy working out for you? where do you want to go today?"Oct 21 15:24
schestowitz[TR]I am preparing a post about it atmOct 21 15:24
schestowitz[TR]sort ofOct 21 15:24
schestowitz[TR]phoroniuxOct 21 15:24
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techrights-newsWay to Go, Phoronix (How to Alienate the Audience) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/10/21/phoronix-microsoft-slant/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/21/phoronix-microsoft-slant/Oct 21 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Way to Go, Phoronix (How to Alienate the Audience) | TechrightsOct 21 15:46
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techrights-newsSupercon ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/10/20/2022-hackaday-supercon-final-talks-announced/ | Source: HackadayOct 21 15:50
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techrights-newsWhere I'm At gemini://themby.smol.pub/2022-10-20Oct 21 16:04
techrights-news"Today my boss fired me. I'm relieved albeit extremely angry at him. I have a letter to send to the board about how he communicated with me that includes examples; I'll update how that goes perhaps in a new post." gemini://eph.smol.pub/1666302170Oct 21 16:05
AdmFubarhttps://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/internet-connectivity-worldwide-impacted-by-severed-eu-subsea-cables/Oct 21 16:06
techrights-newsFusion vs the doomsday clock gemini://idiomdrottning.org/fusionOct 21 16:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Internet connectivity worldwide impacted by severed fiber cables in FranceOct 21 16:06
techrights-newsiOS has back doors. Don't do SSH from platforms that have back doors. gemini://gmi.noulin.net/2021-07-21-ssh-clients-in-ios.gmiOct 21 16:09
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techrights-newsSpellBinding: HIYNSWL Wordo: SIXES gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-10-21.gmiOct 21 16:12
techrights-newsSpellBinding: HIYNSWL Wordo: SIXES gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-10-21.gmiOct 21 16:12
schestowitz"For chatting, I also use Apple Facetime and iMessage because it is private enough.Oct 21 16:12
schestowitz" It's not. NSA PRISM. gemini://gmi.noulin.net/2020-07-28-privacy.gmiOct 21 16:12
AdmFubarhttps://tech.slashdot.org/story/22/10/21/0256202/new-jersey-legislators-aim-to-ban-most-in-car-subscriptionsOct 21 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tech.slashdot.org | New Jersey Legislators Aim To Ban Most In-Car Subscriptions - SlashdotOct 21 16:12
techrights-newsMy privacy settings in iOS and Android gemini://gmi.noulin.net/2022-02-24-my-privacy-settings-in-ios-and-android.gmi those platforms are NOT compatible with privacyOct 21 16:13
techrights-newsHow to manage a mailing list? gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2022-10-21-managing-mailing-list.gmiOct 21 16:13
AdmFubarhttps://yro.slashdot.org/story/22/10/20/2148215/ring-cameras-are-being-used-to-control-and-surveil-overworked-delivery-workersOct 21 16:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yro.slashdot.org | Ring Cameras Are Being Used To Control and Surveil Overworked Delivery Workers - SlashdotOct 21 16:13
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AdmFubarhttps://apple.slashdot.org/story/22/10/17/2146223/apple-bows-to-pressure-drops-plan-to-buy-chinese-memory-chipsOct 21 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-apple.slashdot.org | Apple Bows To Pressure, Drops Plan To Buy Chinese Memory Chips - SlashdotOct 21 16:15
techrights-newsSemafor ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/20/semafor-launches-into-a-very-broken-us-media-claiming-to-have-found-something-new-but-have-they/ | Source: TechdirtOct 21 16:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Semafor Joins A Very Broken US Media Industry Claiming To Have Found The Cure For Eroded Trust In News. But Have They Really? | TechdirtOct 21 16:16
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schestowitz[TR]amazon ringOct 21 16:18
schestowitz[TR]no worse than the idiots who deploy theseOct 21 16:18
schestowitz[TR]and evne pay for te 'privilegeOct 21 16:18
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiOct 21 16:20
techrights-news"über-powerful cyberdecks" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/10/20/2022-cyberdeck-contest-keezyboost40-is-a-cyberdeck-masquerading-as-a-keyboard/ | Source: HackadayOct 21 16:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-2022 Cyberdeck Contest: Keezyboost40 Is A Cyberdeck Masquerading As A Keyboard | HackadayOct 21 16:20
techrights-newsCFPB ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/20/lawless-and-reckless-warren-condemns-fifth-circuit-attack-cfpb | Source: Common DreamsOct 21 16:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Lawless and Reckless': Warren Condemns Fifth Circuit Attack on CFPBOct 21 16:21
psydruidwhenever I call this country "Nederland Microsoftland" on Dutch tech sites Microsoft slaves get triggered and downvote my comments into oblivionOct 21 16:24
schestowitz[TR]statcounter shows nl is very microsoft-occupiedOct 21 16:33
schestowitz[TR]more than any large western european countryOct 21 16:33
techrights-news"My wife and I recently had the tremendous misfortune of needing to buy a car." ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/20/so-called-gop-solutions-inflation-are-just-another-giveaway-rich-and-corporations | Source: Common DreamsOct 21 16:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | So-Called GOP 'Solutions' to Inflation Are Just Another Giveaway to the Rich and Corporations | Peter CertoOct 21 16:34
MinceRwhat does it show about orbanistan?Oct 21 16:34
schestowitz[TR]not so good either, but I cannot remember exactlyOct 21 16:34
MinceR"We can't stop here, this is MICROS~1 country!"Oct 21 16:34
schestowitz[TR]I said largeOct 21 16:34
schestowitz[TR]and western europeOct 21 16:34
schestowitz[TR]hungary is former ussrOct 21 16:34
MinceRyeah, i knowOct 21 16:34
schestowitz[TR]still sufferingOct 21 16:34
MinceRthat's why i asked :>Oct 21 16:34
schestowitz[TR]it has historric significantOct 21 16:35
schestowitz[TR]but it's not known for anything but orban anymoreOct 21 16:35
schestowitz[TR]and people who LEFT the placeOct 21 16:35
schestowitz[TR]*significanceOct 21 16:35
schestowitz[TR]"quick! name a hungarian company!"Oct 21 16:35
schestowitz[TR]"errmm... hmmm"Oct 21 16:35
schestowitz[TR]https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/hungary/#monthly-202111-202203Oct 21 16:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Desktop Operating System Market Share Hungary | Statcounter Global StatsOct 21 16:37
schestowitz[TR]Windows holdinhg steadyOct 21 16:38
schestowitz[TR]at around 88%Oct 21 16:38
schestowitz[TR]in other countries it can be 60%-70%$Oct 21 16:38
schestowitz[TR]73% in nl Oct 21 16:38
schestowitz[TR]https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/netherlands/#monthly-202111-202210Oct 21 16:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Desktop Operating System Market Share Netherlands | Statcounter Global StatsOct 21 16:38
schestowitz[TR]ballmer has got hungary by the ballsOct 21 16:39
schestowitz[TR]https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/india/#monthly-202111-202210Oct 21 16:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Desktop Operating System Market Share India | Statcounter Global StatsOct 21 16:39
schestowitz[TR]gnu/linux 3.2% https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/ukraine/#monthly-202111-202210Oct 21 16:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Desktop Operating System Market Share Ukraine | Statcounter Global StatsOct 21 16:40
techrights-newsDecompiling ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/10/20/decompiling-software-to-fix-an-old-solar-inverter/ | Source: HackadayOct 21 16:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Decompiling Software To Fix An Old Solar Inverter | HackadayOct 21 16:42
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techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▂▂▃▂▄▄▁▂▅▂▂▂▃▂▅▂▃▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▄█▂▄▅▃▅▂▃▄▃▃▁ avg(k/sec) 13.88 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▂███▁▁▆▇▁██▁▁▁██████▁▁█▁█▅▁▁▂▁▁▇▁ avg(k/sec) 112.10▕ swarm size (avg): 116.80  ⟲Oct 21 16:59
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MinceR(cat) https://www.deviantart.com/furlined/art/He-Has-A-Complaint-909934683Oct 21 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-He Has A Complaint by FurLined on DeviantArtOct 21 17:02
techrights-news"we’re enabled by mainstream media" ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/21/our-bubble-has-been-burst-can-other-possibilities-now-exist/ | Source: Counter PunchOct 21 17:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-“Our Bubble Has Been Burst:” Can Other Possibilities Now Exist? - CounterPunch.orgOct 21 17:15
techrights-news"What if Journalism Disappeared?" ☛ https://www.projectcensored.org/what-if-journalism-disappeared/ | Source: Project CensoredOct 21 17:15
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techrights-news"If you’ve ever paged through the color samples at the hardware store trying to match a particular color" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/10/20/errf-22-building-a-library-of-filament-colors/ | Source: HackadayOct 21 17:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ERRF 22: Building A Library Of Filament Colors | HackadayOct 21 17:16
techrights-news"[William Dudley] picked up a Fluke 8840A bench multimeter at an auction" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/10/20/a-homebrew-ac-upgrade-for-the-fluke-8840a/ | Source: HackadayOct 21 17:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Homebrew AC Upgrade For The Fluke 8840A | HackadayOct 21 17:16
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple System Information ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Alternatives_to_Apple_System_Informat.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Alternatives_to_Apple_System_Informat.gmi ∎Oct 21 17:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple System InformationOct 21 17:17
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Stable kernel 6.0.3 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Stable_kernel_6_0_3.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Stable_kernel_6_0_3.gmi ∎Oct 21 17:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Stable kernel 6.0.3Oct 21 17:17
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): KDE neon Rebased on Jammy ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/KDE_neon_Rebased_on_Jammy.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/KDE_neon_Rebased_on_Jammy.gmi ∎Oct 21 17:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — KDE neon Rebased on JammyOct 21 17:17
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiOct 21 17:20
techrights-news"advertising on disinformation sites" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/20/report-shows-google-other-ad-networks-fund-and-profit-climate-disinformation-sites | Source: Common DreamsOct 21 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Report Shows Google, Other Ad Networks Fund and Profit From Climate Disinformation SitesOct 21 17:25
techrights-news"HP-41 — arguably the best calculator ever made" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/10/21/hp-41c-the-forth-edition/ | Source: HackadayOct 21 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-HP-41C, The Forth Edition | HackadayOct 21 17:25
techrights-newsAccountable.U ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/20/judge-who-ruled-against-cfpb-took-thousands-wall-street-campaign-cash-watchdog | Source: Common DreamsOct 21 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Judge Who Ruled Against CFPB Took Thousands in Wall Street Campaign Cash: WatchdogOct 21 17:26
techrights-newsAlex Jones ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/21/alex-jones-got-what-a-deserved-a-libertarian-perspective/ | Source: Counter PunchOct 21 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Alex Jones Got What a Deserved: a Libertarian Perspective - CounterPunch.orgOct 21 17:27
techrights-news"Fed officials are making a mockery of ethics—and Chair Powell is failing to overhaul a culture of corruption." ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/20/not-normal-fed-president-spoke-private-wall-street-forum | Source: Common DreamsOct 21 17:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'This Is Not Normal': Fed President Spoke at Private Wall Street ForumOct 21 17:28
techrights-newsLongboard ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/10/20/unconventional-longboard-built-from-single-slice-of-tree/ | Source: HackadayOct 21 17:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Unconventional Longboard Built From Single Slice Of Tree | HackadayOct 21 17:28
techrights-newsSteam Just Got Better on Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/What_The_Steam_snap_is_evolving.shtmlOct 21 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — What? The Steam snap is evolving!Oct 21 17:32
techrights-newsUsing Qt as shared system libraries in Android https://www.qt.io/blog/using-qt-as-shared-system-libraries-in-androidOct 21 17:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qt.io | Using Qt as shared system libraries in AndroidOct 21 17:35
techrights-newsC/C++ Debugging Tools - KDAB ⚓ https://www.kdab.com/c-cpp-debugging-tools/ ䷉ Source: KDAB | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.kdab.com/c-cpp-debugging-tools/Oct 21 17:35
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎Oct 21 17:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Android LeftoversOct 21 17:37
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MinceR(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnrHlYWcWgIOct 21 17:38
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techrights-newsLinuxToday CHANGED the headline to become some promotional Microsoft BS that's surveillance and proprietary https://www.linuxtoday.com/news/ubuntu-22-10-fails-to-include-azure-ad-support-rescheduled-to-23-04/Oct 21 17:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxtoday.com | Ubuntu 22.10 Fails to Include Azure AD Support: Rescheduled to 23.04Oct 21 17:39
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techrights-newsSpamnil not promoting anti-Linux FUD group, "Techstrong Research". These people actively work against FOSS.Oct 21 17:43
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techrights-newsPfizer Refuses to Explain What It's Selling https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/21/pfizer-secrecy/Oct 21 17:48
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techrights-newsBubble Universes https://xkcd.com/2688/Oct 21 17:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Bubble UniversesOct 21 17:49
techrights-news#KeepItOn: 34 governments demand Iran ends internet restrictions https://www.accessnow.org/keepiton-governments-iran-internet-restrictions/Oct 21 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | #KeepItOn: 34 governments demand Iran ends internet restrictions - Access NowOct 21 17:52
techrights-newsEffecting positive change in the Internet of Things | Pen Test Partners <p class="dropcap-first"> <a class="readon" title="Pen Test Partners" href="https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/effecting-positive-change-in-the-internet-of-things/">Read on</a>Oct 21 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pentestpartners.com | Effecting positive change in the Internet of Things | Pen Test PartnersOct 21 17:55
techrights-newsCisco Releases Security Update for Cisco Identity Services Engine  | CISA ⚓ https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/10/21/cisco-releases-security-update-cisco-identity-services-engine ䷉ Source: USCERT | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/10/21/cisco-releases-security-update-cisco-identity-services-engineOct 21 17:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Cisco Releases Security Update for Cisco Identity Services Engine  | CISAOct 21 17:55
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techrights-news36 months after COVID-19 breaskout and nearly 24 months after mass vaccination began we still have record numbers of deaths. Some nice products you got there... and profits.Oct 21 18:01
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report Third Quarter 2022 | The FreeBSD Project ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/FreeBSD_Quarterly_Status_Report_Third_Quarter_2022_The_FreeBSD_.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/FreeBSD_Quarterly_Status_Report_Third_Quarter_2022_The_FreeBSD_.gmi ∎Oct 21 18:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report Third Quarter 2022 | The FreeBSD ProjectOct 21 18:02
techrights-newsOpenBSD 7.2 released (UPDATEDx2) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/20/OpenBSD_7_2_released.shtmlOct 21 18:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — OpenBSD 7.2 released (UPDATEDx2)Oct 21 18:03
techrights-newsDesperate for stories (because news is relatively slow), Mr. Larabel looks for ‘action’ in the wrong places and opts for clickbait, probably for better “engagement” through “entertainment” http://techrights.org/2022/10/21/phoronix-microsoft-slant/Oct 21 18:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Way to Go, Phoronix (How to Alienate the Audience) | TechrightsOct 21 18:04
techrights-news"European court paper, 35 pages of questions, criticisms, demands, lack of transparency – none answered" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/21/pfizer-secrecy/Oct 21 18:04
techrights-newsCanonical releases Ubuntu Linux 22.10 ’Kinetic Kudu’ (UPDATEDx3) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/20/Canonical_releases_Ubuntu_Linux_22_10_Kinetic_Kudu.shtmlOct 21 18:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Canonical releases Ubuntu Linux 22.10 ’Kinetic Kudu’ (UPDATEDx3)Oct 21 18:07
techrights-newsPostgreSQL: New podcast Postgres FM ⚓ https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/new-podcast-postgres-fm-2529/ ䷉ Source: PostgreSQL | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.postgresql.org/about/news/new-podcast-postgres-fm-2529/Oct 21 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: New podcast Postgres FMOct 21 18:08
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techrights-news"While I often get to chat on camera with people in the free software space, usually those people devs or programmers or distro maintainers. But today I get a chance to talk to a theology professor who is also a huge advocate for free and open source software, especially in our schools and universities. Meet Dr. Corey Stephan..." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GqC3ViXikLkOct 21 18:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Theology Professor and Free Software Advocate, Corey Stephan Ph.D. - InvidiousOct 21 18:09
techrights-news55: Kommercializing Open Source - Podcasts - TuxDigital ⚓ https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/sudo-show/sudo-55/ ䷉ Source: Tux Digital "Brandon and Neal have a conversation with Nate Graham about KDE and Plasma as a commercial platform"Oct 21 18:09
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techrights-news71: Google Says No to Stadia and Yes to Gaming Chromebooks? - Hardware Addicts - TuxDigital ⚓ https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/hardware-addicts/ha-71/ ䷉ Source: Tux Digital | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//tuxdigital.com/podcasts/hardware-addicts/ha-71/Oct 21 18:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-71: Google Says No to Stadia and Yes to Gaming Chromebooks? - Hardware Addicts - TuxDigitalOct 21 18:10
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techrights-news"Crypto" fake-coin => junk(ed) hardware https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X44gW2BoSpcOct 21 18:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=X44gW2BoSpcOct 21 18:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | What to KNOW about Cheap Graphics Cards on eBay - InvidiousOct 21 18:11
techrights-news"The latest episode of the Sudo Show with Brandon Johnson and Neal Gompa has an interview with me, on the subject of Kommercializing KDE. It’s quite relevant to my goal of getting our software on the all the hardware we can (AKA World Domination) so give it a listen!" https://pointieststick.com/2022/10/21/interview-on-the-sudo-show/Oct 21 18:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pointieststick.com | Interview on the Sudo Show – Adventures in Linux and KDEOct 21 18:12
techrights-news"Alex gives Roon Labs whole home audio a try but discovers a critical design flaw while Chris checks out his new ODROID-H3+ and plans his next epic build." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/show/self-hosted/82/Oct 21 18:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Roon Ready Ruh-Roh | Jupiter BroadcastingOct 21 18:12
techrights-newsDowntime again (ICBM can't get it up): Fedora Copr RPM/DNF/YUM storage needs a major upgrade, we'll need to stop processing the build queue for about 20 hours, and do two short HTTP (2x5 minutes) outages (dnf update will have problems to update anything being hosted in Fedora Copr during this short period)." https://status.fedoraproject.org/2022-10-28-copr-storage-change.htmlOct 21 18:14
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techrights-newsAdversarial ML Attack that Secretly Gives a Language Model a Point of View https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/10/adversarial-ml-attack-that-secretly-gives-a-language-model-a-point-of-view.htmlOct 21 18:17
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Videos: Free Software Advocate Corey Stephan, Postgres FM, TuxDigital Shows, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Videos_Free_Software_Advocate_Corey_Stephan_Postgres_FM_TuxDigi.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Videos_Free_Software_Advocate_Corey_Stephan_Postgres_FM_TuxDigi.gmi ∎Oct 21 18:20
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/22100236Oct 21 18:21
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starstreakArch Linucks is no longer modern. Ubuntu 22.10 came out with Gnome 43.Oct 21 18:21
MinceRsucks to be an arch linucks user thenOct 21 18:21
starstreak:(Oct 21 18:22
techrights-newsStratis 3.3.0 Release Notes https://stratis-storage.github.io/stratis-release-notes-3-3-0/ ICBM Red Hat outsourcing to Microsoft proprietary prison is the hallmark of severe incompetenceOct 21 18:22
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MinceRso how's your beard coming along, is it gray yet?Oct 21 18:22
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Security: Microsoft Failures, Patches, Fakes, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Security_Microsoft_Failures_Patches_Fakes_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Security_Microsoft_Failures_Patches_Fakes_and_More.gmi ∎Oct 21 18:22
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schestowitz[TR]beardneyOct 21 18:23
starstreakare you talking to me?Oct 21 18:24
starstreaki dont have a beardOct 21 18:24
starstreaki got my face laz0redOct 21 18:24
schestowitz[TR]lizard :-_)Oct 21 18:26
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Red Hat Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/corporate_stuff_redhat.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/corporate_stuff_redhat.gmi ∎Oct 21 18:26
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MinceRhttps://unixgraybeard.com/Oct 21 18:28
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schestowitz[TR]not taking the piss, sorry :/Oct 21 18:30
schestowitz[TR]a year ago I asked someone about itOct 21 18:30
schestowitz[TR]men have 3 optionsOct 21 18:30
schestowitz[TR]grow a long beard and lert it beOct 21 18:30
schestowitz[TR]shave oftenOct 21 18:30
schestowitz[TR]do laz0rOct 21 18:30
schestowitz[TR]there are pros and cons to eachOct 21 18:30
MinceRi took a 4th optionOct 21 18:30
schestowitz[TR]for me, shaving every 5 or so days means minimising the burden a bitOct 21 18:30
schestowitz[TR]some people shave every day, which takes a ton of timeOct 21 18:31
MinceRi trim the stubble every few daysOct 21 18:31
schestowitz[TR]like women having to put at least soeme "basic" makupOct 21 18:31
schestowitz[TR]that can take a lot longerOct 21 18:31
schestowitz[TR]and cannot be done every [x] daysOct 21 18:31
schestowitz[TR]stubble trimming is also a good optionOct 21 18:31
schestowitz[TR]can be done with eelctric trimmerOct 21 18:31
MinceRindeedOct 21 18:32
starstreak<schestowitz[TR]> lizard :-_) <- :)Oct 21 18:32
schestowitz[TR]some of my stubble started to grey a little, maybe one in 1000 Oct 21 18:32
schestowitz[TR]by 50 it'll probably be mostly greyOct 21 18:33
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Open Hardware: Arduino, SparkFun, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Open_Hardware_Arduino_SparkFun_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Open_Hardware_Arduino_SparkFun_and_More.gmi ∎Oct 21 18:33
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schestowitz[TR]Two Irishman walk into a barbershop, "I'll do the laz0r"Oct 21 18:34
schestowitz[TR]*menOct 21 18:34
schestowitz[TR]Two Irishmen walk into a pub, "I'll be a lizard"Oct 21 18:35
MinceR:)Oct 21 18:38
MinceRliz4rdOct 21 18:38
schestowitz[TR]linux-lz0rdOct 21 18:41
schestowitz[TR]it's the same as LinuxOct 21 18:41
schestowitz[TR]but the man pages are not "mamn"Oct 21 18:41
schestowitz[TR]"man'Oct 21 18:41
schestowitz[TR](I know man-pages are not part olf the kernel)Oct 21 18:41
schestowitz[TR]greopp is not grep eitherOct 21 18:42
schestowitz[TR]it's greptoidOct 21 18:42
schestowitz[TR]which is short forOct 21 18:42
schestowitz[TR]global reptoid ;-)Oct 21 18:42
MinceR:>Oct 21 18:43
MinceRhttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/24/4e/74/244e7408860952ff7c6ecbd393ec9e4e.jpgOct 21 18:44
geertwhats the oldsters cooking up todayOct 21 18:44
geertuh ohOct 21 18:44
geert;pOct 21 18:45
techrights-newsWhy Is Linux Better Than Mac? The Comparison | Itsubuntu.com ⚓ https://itsubuntu.com/why-is-linux-better-than-mac-the-comparison/ ䷉ Source: It's Ubuntu (so shallow and weak, as usual)Oct 21 18:45
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): PostgreSQL: pgAdmin 4 v6.15 Released ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/PostgreSQL_pgAdmin_4_v6_15_Released.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/PostgreSQL_pgAdmin_4_v6_15_Released.gmi ∎Oct 21 18:45
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/22100228Oct 21 18:45
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techrights-newsArcoLinux 22.11.02 is out https://www.arcolinux.info/ Arch-based distro from BelgiumOct 21 18:46
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techrights-newsEnable AMD znver4 support and add instruction reservations https://gcc.gnu.org/git/?p=gcc.git;a=commitdiff;h=bf3b532b524ecacb3202ab2c8af419ffaaab7cffOct 21 18:48
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techrights-newsThe frustrating RouterOS–WireGuard VPN peering bug https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/routeros-wireguard-peer-bug.htmlOct 21 18:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | The frustrating RouterOS–WireGuard VPN peering bug | Ctrl blogOct 21 18:51
techrights-newsProject removes one line of code, adds one line of code, Phoronix takes screenshot of the change and writes 50 lines of text. 50 times longer than the actual code change! https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-TUN-Driver-1000xOct 21 18:52
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AdmFubarhttps://www.darkreading.com/endpoint/a-common-password-list-accounts-for-nearly-all-cyberattacksOct 21 18:53
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techrights-news59 lines of actual code: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/19149/diffs#74af3d354d48b41e9b2ee47981865c2a06a5a92e ~40-line wall of text from Phoronix: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Mesa-RUSTICL_ENABLEOct 21 18:54
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reptilian_thrillsthis is how open source and mjg (and not only mjg) have an exchange:Oct 21 18:56
techrights-newsSome patches are like 1000 lines of code, but Phoronix cannot makes sense of them, so instead we hear about someone removing one line of code, replacing it with another, then take at face value the unverified claims of performance improvements (likely due to profoundly buggy, defective prior implementation)Oct 21 18:56
reptilian_thrillsand why its ultimately pointless (at least in terms of an exchange. i wont go into other reasons its not entirely pointless)Oct 21 18:57
reptilian_thrillsfirst, you find common ground. theres nothing wrong with that-- everyone agrees on somethingOct 21 18:57
schestowitz[TR]AdmFubar: blame "Linux"Oct 21 18:57
schestowitz[TR]they get into "Linux"Oct 21 18:57
reptilian_thrillsfinding common ground isnt always about really finding common ground, its also an interrogation techniqueOct 21 18:57
schestowitz[TR]with goodmorning 123Oct 21 18:57
schestowitz[TR]and install "backdoor"Oct 21 18:58
reptilian_thrillssometimes the good cop has more luck than the bad copOct 21 18:58
reptilian_thrillsanywayOct 21 18:58
reptilian_thrillswhat you do is, you have the same discussion. over. and over. and over.Oct 21 18:58
schestowitz[TR]hey, he is the one coming hereOct 21 18:58
reptilian_thrillsit needs to be said, that just because this is being done, doesnt automatically mean the person doing it is WRONG in their position.Oct 21 18:58
schestowitz[TR]for a fightOct 21 18:58
schestowitz[TR]and hawking overOct 21 18:58
schestowitz[TR]looking for some ways to discredit us, mostly meOct 21 18:59
reptilian_thrillsyeah, because ariadne didnt point out how you trollhim until he shows up (my wording admittedly)Oct 21 18:59
reptilian_thrillswell you discredit each other, painting it any other way is sillyOct 21 18:59
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reptilian_thrillsim not saying you dont have some REASON to discredit himOct 21 18:59
schestowitz[TR]I usually respond to his blogOct 21 18:59
reptilian_thrillsif you do however, a rebuttal is predictableOct 21 18:59
reptilian_thrills <schestowitz[TR]> I usually respond to his blog <- i mean...Oct 21 18:59
schestowitz[TR]he does not like the responseOct 21 18:59
reptilian_thrillshowever, what i was saying about open sourceOct 21 18:59
reptilian_thrillsis that it has the same conversation over and overOct 21 18:59
MinceRmjg59_ has credit? how?Oct 21 18:59
schestowitz[TR]if you look back at Daily Links, we probably linked to 95% of his blog postsOct 21 19:00
schestowitz[TR]I don't have to link blindlyOct 21 19:00
reptilian_thrillsOFTEN based on some argument or even core principle of free softwareOct 21 19:00
schestowitz[TR]anyone is allowed to express disgareementOct 21 19:00
reptilian_thrillsand heres what it does with thoseOct 21 19:00
reptilian_thrillsit just talks about the points that open source can agree with / work with / take advantage ofOct 21 19:00
schestowitz[TR]real-case scanrioOct 21 19:01
schestowitz[TR]mjg says pluton is not a threat, at least not yetOct 21 19:01
schestowitz[TR]I call BS on thatOct 21 19:01
reptilian_thrillsthen it refuses (often politely) to seriously consider the parts that are key to the fsf / free software positionOct 21 19:01
schestowitz[TR]and maybe even do a blog post or videoOct 21 19:01
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reptilian_thrillsdismissing them as religous / ideology / old-fashioned / naive / irrelevant / unprofitable / stupidOct 21 19:01
reptilian_thrillsto be fair, the fsf cant be right about everything. no organisation is that good.Oct 21 19:01
schestowitz[TR]he is a money chaserOct 21 19:01
schestowitz[TR]the economic arguments are weakOct 21 19:02
reptilian_thrillsso theyre going to get stuff wrong, and people are going to critique themOct 21 19:02
schestowitz[TR]maybe wse need to change the economic incentivesOct 21 19:02
schestowitz[TR]there used to be more uni grantsOct 21 19:02
reptilian_thrillsthe problem with the open source argument is its dishonestOct 21 19:02
schestowitz[TR]before the unis became dependent on "Grants" from corporationsOct 21 19:02
reptilian_thrillsit never does anything more than reiterate whats already agreed on-- and dismiss anything it disagrees with or cant take advantage odOct 21 19:02
reptilian_thrillsofOct 21 19:02
reptilian_thrillsand it does it until free software is tired of arguingOct 21 19:02
reptilian_thrillsthen it fucks offOct 21 19:02
reptilian_thrillsin a manufactured victory by defaultOct 21 19:03
reptilian_thrillsany honest person can see the problem with thisOct 21 19:03
schestowitz[TR]at the end it is mostly time-wasting Oct 21 19:03
schestowitz[TR]we don't think alikeOct 21 19:03
reptilian_thrillsbut not everyone is honest, and open source is corporate apologismOct 21 19:03
schestowitz[TR]he and I are VERY differentOct 21 19:03
reptilian_thrillsmjg isnt the only person in here that does this btwOct 21 19:03
reptilian_thrillsso im singling him out but only as a GREAT example of thisOct 21 19:03
reptilian_thrillsive watched open source in general do it for more than a decadeOct 21 19:04
schestowitz[TR]trueOct 21 19:04
reptilian_thrillsits such a corporate way to REFRAME every key issueOct 21 19:04
reptilian_thrillsits not an exchange of ideasOct 21 19:04
reptilian_thrillsits just reframing. every time.Oct 21 19:04
schestowitz[TR]not reallyOct 21 19:04
schestowitz[TR]there are subtle differences trooOct 21 19:04
schestowitz[TR]example:Oct 21 19:04
reptilian_thrillsbut there are other reasons to participate in such a "pointless" (mostly pointless) exchangeOct 21 19:04
schestowitz[TR]Free software: we need to liberate the userOct 21 19:04
schestowitz[TR]or make sure users who seek loiberty can have it, download itOct 21 19:05
schestowitz[TR]Open Sores: we need more collaborationOct 21 19:05
schestowitz[TR]those are not the sameOct 21 19:05
schestowitz[TR]military companies collaborate a lotOct 21 19:05
schestowitz[TR]they make bombsOct 21 19:05
schestowitz[TR]they exchaange parts from their assembliesOct 21 19:05
reptilian_thrillscollaboration is good. this a perfect example of something open source can reframeOct 21 19:05
schestowitz[TR]like valves and sony camsOct 21 19:05
schestowitz[TR]for the missile cruisingOct 21 19:05
schestowitz[TR]that's collaborationOct 21 19:06
Ariadneto be clear, i'm not in the "open source" camp any more than i have to be for business reasonsOct 21 19:06
reptilian_thrillscollaboration is good (yes) therefore we should have more of it (depends!) therefore we should move to github (holy fuck, NO!)Oct 21 19:06
schestowitz[TR]it might be Open SourceOct 21 19:06
Ariadneit's always about freedom to meOct 21 19:06
schestowitz[TR]There migth even be Linux Foundation Weapons(TM)Oct 21 19:06
schestowitz[TR]LFWOct 21 19:06
schestowitz[TR]but it would not leave us better offOct 21 19:06
Ariadneincidentally, i am not thrilled about everyone wanting to put everything in the LF basketOct 21 19:06
reptilian_thrillsso the open source argument will focus on collaboration, but reframe the issue by dismissing any PROBLEMS with collaborationOct 21 19:06
AriadneGCC should not be under the auspices of the LFOct 21 19:06
schestowitz[TR]LFX afaik is not even open sourceOct 21 19:07
schestowitz[TR]they are selling 'collaboration packages'Oct 21 19:07
schestowitz[TR]and get paid with "memebrshipsOct 21 19:07
schestowitz[TR]they exchange that for seatsOct 21 19:07
reptilian_thrills"ive got your 'colllaboration package' RIGHT HERE"Oct 21 19:07
schestowitz[TR]and farm bus reports from unpaid workers, if anywayOct 21 19:07
schestowitz[TR]they then issue some puff pieces in media partners (paid) like The New Stack and ZDnetOct 21 19:08
schestowitz[TR]LFW: how Raytheon saw the light and shared its innovationsOct 21 19:08
schestowitz[TR]like drones that suck in the organs when they detonateOct 21 19:08
reptilian_thrillsbut reframe the issue by dismissing any PROBLEMS with collaboratio <- basically it just turns everything into a blank cheque for its own argumentOct 21 19:08
Ariadnei mean, it is nice for them to clean up the mess they createOct 21 19:08
schestowitz[TR](I don't know the science of how they do it but they do)Oct 21 19:08
reptilian_thrillswhile raising the cost of any counterargument to over 9000Oct 21 19:08
schestowitz[TR]I think it might be "vacuum bombs"Oct 21 19:09
Ariadnefwiw a lot of the same arguments you make are the same arguments the ethical source people makeOct 21 19:09
schestowitz[TR]afaik, gnu and fsf never emphasised that aspectOct 21 19:09
schestowitz[TR]like transparencyOct 21 19:09
Ariadne(though i think licensing is not the answer here)Oct 21 19:09
schestowitz[TR]but sharing and keeping people hacking at itOct 21 19:09
schestowitz[TR]Ariadne: rightOct 21 19:09
schestowitz[TR]but they want to arbitrarily enforce te ethicsOct 21 19:10
schestowitz[TR]based on uN 'satndards'Oct 21 19:10
schestowitz[TR]where you deal with very primitive (ardon the phrase)m countriesOct 21 19:10
Ariadneall of these folks are honestly wildOct 21 19:10
schestowitz[TR]with gayness is punishable by deathOct 21 19:10
Ariadnethere is some company called defense unicornsOct 21 19:10
Ariadnestarted by some dude who "put kubernetes on an f-15"Oct 21 19:10
Ariadne(it was on a raspberry pi, i don't think that really counts)Oct 21 19:11
schestowitz[TR]f-15 is old :-)Oct 21 19:11
schestowitz[TR]did he get one off ebay?Oct 21 19:11
Ariadneit was one they didn't decommission yet i guessOct 21 19:11
Ariadnethey being DoDOct 21 19:11
schestowitz[TR]f-15 was low-techOct 21 19:11
schestowitz[TR]maybe for the betterOct 21 19:12
Ariadneyeah, when i pressed somebody who worked there for detailsOct 21 19:12
Ariadnethey were likeOct 21 19:12
AriadneohOct 21 19:12
schestowitz[TR]I think even missile guiding is done on its ownOct 21 19:12
Ariadnewe put it on a raspberry piOct 21 19:12
schestowitz[TR]like heat-detectionOct 21 19:12
Ariadnewhich was wired into the powerOct 21 19:12
schestowitz[TR]embedded and not connected to the planeOct 21 19:12
Ariadnei deal with "open source" people at the DoD a lotOct 21 19:12
Ariadnei do not have high opinions of those peopleOct 21 19:12
schestowitz[TR]btw, there is a new java plaform based on alpineOct 21 19:13
Ariadneyeah i sawOct 21 19:13
Ariadnethese days i am mostly working on a GNU/Linux distribution built on some of the same tech as alpineOct 21 19:13
schestowitz[TR]red hat still wants to get into automobilesOct 21 19:13
schestowitz[TR]and other vehiclesOct 21 19:13
schestowitz[TR]but they evidently aren't in a stable shape atmOct 21 19:14
MinceRthat didn't stop MICROS~1Oct 21 19:14
schestowitz[TR]microsoft tried and failedOct 21 19:14
schestowitz[TR]ford for exampleOct 21 19:14
schestowitz[TR]syncOct 21 19:14
schestowitz[TR]windows in cars is historyOct 21 19:14
MinceRthey did manage to put their crap in various alleged carsOct 21 19:14
MinceRincluding ford and bmwOct 21 19:15
schestowitz[TR]now they just try to sell "clown:'Oct 21 19:15
schestowitz[TR]to companies like mercedes-benzOct 21 19:15
schestowitz[TR]like, send us your dataOct 21 19:15
schestowitz[TR]but no windows in the carsOct 21 19:15
schestowitz[TR]well, windows yesOct 21 19:15
schestowitz[TR]the physcial onesOct 21 19:15
Ariadnemy previous car had ford syncOct 21 19:15
Ariadneholy crap windows for automobiles is badOct 21 19:16
Ariadnemy new car has alpineOct 21 19:16
Ariadneidk how i feel about thatOct 21 19:16
schestowitz[TR]better bring a laptop to the carOct 21 19:16
schestowitz[TR]and drive analogueOct 21 19:16
schestowitz[TR]I did this in the 90sOct 21 19:16
schestowitz[TR]korean carOct 21 19:17
MinceR"analogue" has worse mileage and can actually be less reliableOct 21 19:17
MinceRsince you replace an ECU with a whole bunch of moving partsOct 21 19:17
AriadneMinceR: i think he just meant without a computerized head unitOct 21 19:17
schestowitz[TR]yeahOct 21 19:17
schestowitz[TR]even the keys fail a lotOct 21 19:17
schestowitz[TR]like, no batteriesOct 21 19:17
schestowitz[TR]or bad signalOct 21 19:18
schestowitz[TR]so you are away and stuck outside your own carOct 21 19:18
MinceRmaybe it could work with some mounting armOct 21 19:18
MinceRi tried a vent mount for my phone, it broke the ventOct 21 19:18
Ariadne(the ECU is just some microcontroller usually.  frequently it is even 8 or 16-bit)Oct 21 19:18
MinceRi tried several suction cup mounts, they all fell offOct 21 19:18
MinceRi tried a glue mount, that worked but was in an awkward place at an awkward angleOct 21 19:18
MinceRandroid auto is a lot more comfortable in my current carOct 21 19:19
Ariadnepretty much all of these interfaces are garbageOct 21 19:19
schestowitz[TR]new: https://www.wired.com/story/high-tech-cars-killing-the-traditional-auto-repair-shop/Oct 21 19:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-High-Tech Cars Are Killing the Auto Repair Shop | WIREDOct 21 19:19
schestowitz[TR]ProprietaryOct 21 19:19
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiOct 21 19:20
schestowitz[TR]it's a bit lkike secure bootOct 21 19:20
Ariadnei mean, in fairness, wired published an article where i compared contraband in typoed NPM packages to teddybears filled with baggies of cocaineOct 21 19:20
AriadnesoooooOct 21 19:20
schestowitz[TR]the engine is fineOct 21 19:20
schestowitz[TR]you have gasOct 21 19:20
schestowitz[TR]ignition fineOct 21 19:20
MinceR:)Oct 21 19:20
schestowitz[TR]but some computer system standas on the waytOct 21 19:20
reptilian_thrillsthe balance has tipped slightly in favour of reasonOct 21 19:20
reptilian_thrillsMatthew Garrett @mjg59 9hOct 21 19:20
reptilian_thrillsQuestion: the Free Software Song says "We'll kick out those dirty licenses". Is this a rejection of licenses that constrain user freedom, or is a rejection of software being covered by copyright in the first place?Oct 21 19:20
reptilian_thrills52% Evil licenses are badOct 21 19:20
reptilian_thrills48% All licenses are badOct 21 19:20
reptilian_thrills211 votes • 14 hoursOct 21 19:20
schestowitz[TR]so you are lolcked out ofi a perfectly functioning PCOct 21 19:20
schestowitz[TR]because something says "no,no! microsoft NO APPROVE !!"Oct 21 19:20
MinceRas long as the computer systems are simple enough and they were created by people who knew what they were doing, it isn't that badOct 21 19:21
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/wontboot-meme/Oct 21 19:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] It Was Only a Matter of Time All Along | TechrightsOct 21 19:21
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/wontboot/Oct 21 19:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Karma or Hubris? Is #TorvaldsWasRight a Thing Now? | TechrightsOct 21 19:21
schestowitz[TR]MinceR: drive the or-bahnOct 21 19:22
schestowitz[TR]or drive overOct 21 19:22
schestowitz[TR]either wayOct 21 19:22
MinceRlolOct 21 19:22
MinceRthe tires would be smeared with shitOct 21 19:22
reptilian_thrills48% All licenses are bad <- how does he manage to reframe everything so it supports his opinion?Oct 21 19:23
reptilian_thrillsother than LOADS of media trainingOct 21 19:23
schestowitz[TR]so his fans will come infest it like fliesOct 21 19:23
schestowitz[TR]they love their shitOct 21 19:24
schestowitz[TR]reptilian_thrills: loaded queriesOct 21 19:24
reptilian_thrillsi supposed reasing bernays and placing winning an argument over all else could also do itOct 21 19:24
schestowitz[TR]same for test unitsOct 21 19:24
reptilian_thrills <schestowitz[TR]> reptilian_thrills: loaded queries <- absolutelyOct 21 19:24
schestowitz[TR]good tests would fail easilyOct 21 19:24
reptilian_thrillsyeah the former white supremacist who lobbied for bush with microsoft money was great at loaded queriesOct 21 19:25
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎Oct 21 19:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Programming LeftoversOct 21 19:25
reptilian_thrillsand selecting focus groups to manufacture consentOct 21 19:25
reptilian_thrills"former"Oct 21 19:25
reptilian_thrillsi mean he was in the klan i thinkOct 21 19:25
reptilian_thrillsbut im not 100% sure Oct 21 19:25
reptilian_thrillsmicrosoft: we dont bribe presidents directlyOct 21 19:26
schestowitz[TR]this month pfizer admitted that it never tested whether its products stopped the contraction and spread of the diseaseOct 21 19:26
reptilian_thrillsalso microsoft: hasnt been bothered by the doj since the 2000 electionOct 21 19:26
schestowitz[TR]the only thing they checked for is how rapidly it escalatedOct 21 19:26
schestowitz[TR]and they did that privately and secretlyOct 21 19:26
schestowitz[TR]that's poor unit testingOct 21 19:26
schestowitz[TR](in another domain)Oct 21 19:26
reptilian_thrillstahts also reframingOct 21 19:26
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AdmFubarhttps://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/10/meta-grudgingly-agrees-to-sell-giphy-after-admitting-defeat-in-uk-battle/Oct 21 19:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Meta grudgingly agrees to sell Giphy after admitting defeat in UK battle | Ars TechnicaOct 21 19:28
schestowitz[TR]testing softwareOct 21 19:29
schestowitz[TR]and testinf frugsOct 21 19:29
schestowitz[TR]when you ant first to marketOct 21 19:29
schestowitz[TR]microsoft prematurely shipped many thinssOct 21 19:29
schestowitz[TR]even with thousands of known busOct 21 19:29
schestowitz[TR]just to meet some release dats targetOct 21 19:30
schestowitz[TR]being fast to market where there is no gov supervision is insaneOct 21 19:30
schestowitz[TR]*firstOct 21 19:30
schestowitz[TR]see dieselgateOct 21 19:30
schestowitz[TR]they used proprietary sofwtare to fake their cheatingOct 21 19:30
schestowitz[TR]later on people lose confidence in carsOct 21 19:31
schestowitz[TR]with proprietary steering systemsOct 21 19:31
schestowitz[TR]that can be remotely hijackedOct 21 19:32
schestowitz[TR]and lose confidence in modern medicineOct 21 19:32
schestowitz[TR]knowing there are no proprier medical trialsOct 21 19:32
schestowitz[TR]the companies just do whatever the ehll they wantOct 21 19:32
schestowitz[TR]and pass the cost/risk to usOct 21 19:32
schestowitz[TR]25% more deaths this year: https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/18/cdc-deaths-by-age-groups/Oct 21 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » CDC Data: Mortality Rates in the United States by Age Groups (2017-2020)Oct 21 19:34
schestowitz[TR]than pre-covidOct 21 19:34
schestowitz[TR]president of the united states: pandemic is overOct 21 19:34
schestowitz[TR]ush 2:Oct 21 19:34
schestowitz[TR]mission accomplishedOct 21 19:34
schestowitz[TR]trump:Oct 21 19:34
schestowitz[TR]stop the stealOct 21 19:34
schestowitz[TR]clinton:Oct 21 19:35
schestowitz[TR]i did not have sex with that womanOct 21 19:35
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/today_s_leftovers.1.gmi ∎Oct 21 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's leftoversOct 21 19:35
techrights-newsLinks 21/10/2022: Wallpaper Contest for Xfce 4.18 and Release of Linux 6.0.3 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/10/21/linux-6-0-3/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/21/linux-6-0-3/Oct 21 19:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/10/2022: Wallpaper Contest for Xfce 4.18 and Release of Linux 6.0.3 | TechrightsOct 21 19:38
techrights-newsMarginalia's Index Reaches 100,000,000 Documents gemini://marginalia.nu/log/64-hundred-million.gmiOct 21 19:41
techrights-newsReplacing VirtualBox with QEMU gemini://regrow.earth/blog/2022-10-21_qemu_virtualbox.gmiOct 21 19:42
techrights-newsForth double numbers are bass akwards gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-10-21.fourth.doubles.gmiOct 21 19:43
techrights-newsPowering the Raspberry PI Pico from External Batteries ⚓ https://peppe8o.com/powering-the-raspberry-pi-pico-from-external-batteries/ ䷉ Source: peppe8o | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//peppe8o.com/powering-the-raspberry-pi-pico-from-external-batteries/Oct 21 19:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://peppe8o.com/powering-the-raspberry-pi-pico-from-external-batteries/ )Oct 21 19:44
techrights-newsCould install a 'proper' GNU/Linux distro on it. Many have LibreOffice preinstalled. https://www.addictivetips.com/chromebook/how-to-use-libre-office-on-a-chromebook/Oct 21 19:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/chromebook/how-to-use-libre-office-on-a-chromebook/ )Oct 21 19:45
techrights-newsHow to Install Metasploit Framework on Ubuntu Linux - Make Tech Easier ⚓ https://www.maketecheasier.com/install-metasploit-framework-ubuntu-linux/ ䷉ Source: Make Tech Easier | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.maketecheasier.com/install-metasploit-framework-ubuntu-linux/Oct 21 19:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Install Metasploit Framework on Ubuntu Linux - Make Tech EasierOct 21 19:45
XRevan86https://theins.press/en/news/256271Oct 21 19:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theins.press | Russian billionaire who bought cement giant Holcim is a deepfake, Proekt reportsOct 21 19:45
techrights-newsVideo:#HowTo Generate ed25519 key ⚓ https://www.unixtutorial.org/generating-ed25519-ssh-key-video/ ䷉ Source: unixtutorial | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.unixtutorial.org/generating-ed25519-ssh-key-video/Oct 21 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unixtutorial.org | Video: How To Generate ed25519 keyOct 21 19:46
schestowitz[TR]XRevan86: fakes spread fast in social control mediaOct 21 19:47
AdmFubarhttps://www.quantamagazine.org/the-computer-scientist-who-boosts-privacy-with-entropy-20221018/Oct 21 19:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.quantamagazine.org | Quanta MagazineOct 21 19:47
MinceRFalse News Travel FastOct 21 19:48
MinceR(Sonata Arctica)Oct 21 19:48
schestowitz[TR]because it is optimised for spreadingOct 21 19:48
XRevan86schestowitz: Not what happened. Journalists tried to contact a mysterious sudden billionaire, and a deepfake from a still photograph answered the call.Oct 21 19:48
schestowitz[TR]you can make up anything you wantOct 21 19:48
schestowitz[TR]might as well optimise the lieOct 21 19:48
schestowitz[TR]XRevan86: like "yes men"Oct 21 19:49
schestowitz[TR]they need to check who they speak toOct 21 19:49
schestowitz[TR]some image or voice is not enoughOct 21 19:49
schestowitz[TR]official email can helpOct 21 19:49
schestowitz[TR]like sending back and forth to a domain controlled by the companyOct 21 19:49
schestowitz[TR]it's not a deepfake problemOct 21 19:50
schestowitz[TR]it's a social engineering issueOct 21 19:50
schestowitz[TR]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_engineering_(security)#VishingOct 21 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Social engineering (security) - WikipediaOct 21 19:50
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MinceR(cat) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/NFz0RTHOct 21 19:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/NFz0RTH )Oct 21 19:51
techrights-newsThis is just a privilege escalation issue https://www.securityweek.com/cisa-tells-organizations-patch-linux-kernel-vulnerability-exploited-malwareOct 21 19:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CISA Tells Organizations to Patch Linux Kernel Vulnerability Exploited by Malware | SecurityWeek.ComOct 21 19:52
techrights-newsPredictable GUIDs https://hackaday.com/2022/10/21/this-week-in-security-linux-wifi-fortinet-text4shell-and-predictable-guids/Oct 21 19:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This Week In Security: Linux WiFi, Fortinet, Text4Shell, And Predictable GUIDs | HackadayOct 21 19:53
techrights-newsGot fully patched immediately https://www.computing.co.uk/news/4058305/linux-kernel-receives-patches-wi-vulnerabilitiesOct 21 19:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computing.co.uk | Linux kernel receives patches for serious Wi-Fi vulnerabilitiesOct 21 19:53
techrights-newsMichael rewrites his boss's press releases (AMD) https://www.phoronix.com/news/AMDVLK-2022.Q4.1Oct 21 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMDVLK 2022.Q4.1 Brings More Vulkan Performance Tuning - PhoronixOct 21 19:55
techrights-newsdigiKam Recipes 2022.10.21 released https://digikam.org/news/2022-10-21_digikam_recipes_22.10.21_released/Oct 21 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digikam.org | digiKam - digiKam Recipes 2022.10.21 releasedOct 21 19:55
techrights-newsThe NeuroFedora Blog: Next Open NeuroFedora meeting: 24 October 1300 UTC https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2022/10/21/next-open-neurofedora-meeting-24-october-1300-utc.htmlOct 21 19:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neuroblog.fedoraproject.org | Next Open NeuroFedora meeting: 24 October 1300 UTC | NeuroFedora: BlogOct 21 19:57
techrights-newsFedora Community Blog: CPE Weekly Update – Week 42 2022 https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-42-2022/Oct 21 19:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | CPE Weekly Update - Week 42 2022 – Fedora Community BlogOct 21 19:57
techrights-newsFedora Community Blog: Friday’s Fedora Facts: 2022-42 https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-42/Oct 21 19:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Friday's Fedora Facts: 2022-42 – Fedora Community BlogOct 21 19:58
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techrights-newsRed Hat: "This site requires JavaScript to be enabled to function correctly, please enable it." LOL, NO. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__&f1=blocked&list_id=11983255&o1=substring&query_format=advanced&v1=F38FTBFSOct 21 19:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug ListOct 21 19:58
techrights-newsWhy should a bug tracking tool need ANY JS? It doesn't. TRAC and MANTIS do fine with none. They're also fast.Oct 21 19:59
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XRevan86schestowitz: No one claimed that it were, it's amusing that they tried though.Oct 21 20:00
techrights-newsDominique Leuenberger: openSUSE Tumbleweed – Review of the week 2022/42 https://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2022/10/opensuse-tumbleweed-review-of-the-week-2022-42/Oct 21 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dominique.leuenberger.net | openSUSE Tumbleweed – Review of the week 2022/42 – Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*)Oct 21 20:01
schestowitz[TR]XRevan86: lots of fakes now in the warOct 21 20:01
XRevan86It's a story about corruption in Russia (and raid take-over) above all else.Oct 21 20:01
schestowitz[TR]it's dangerous when they entrap youOct 21 20:02
schestowitz[TR]to discredit all your OTHER reportingOct 21 20:02
XRevan86What?Oct 21 20:02
techrights-newsFake 'economics' and notorious terms to sell complexity, even where it is neither needed nor desirable https://containerjournal.com/features/managing-container-and-kubernetes-tco/Oct 21 20:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-containerjournal.com | Managing Container and Kubernetes TCO - Container JournalOct 21 20:03
schestowitz[TR]XRevan86: common technioqueOct 21 20:03
schestowitz[TR]x reports y scandsals about zOct 21 20:03
schestowitz[TR]z sends fake stories to xOct 21 20:03
schestowitz[TR]x reports fake storyOct 21 20:03
schestowitz[TR]z claims y scandals are all discrfeditedOct 21 20:03
schestowitz[TR]and that x is a liarOct 21 20:03
XRevan86Yes, I am aware of this technique, I saw it used against some Ukrainian news websites like UNIAN.Oct 21 20:04
schestowitz[TR]people tried that on techrights like 15 years agoOct 21 20:05
schestowitz[TR]sent fake storiesOct 21 20:05
schestowitz[TR]and then  aited for them to get publishedOct 21 20:05
techrights-newsNew Liaison role for the Native Language Communities - The Document Foundation Blog ⚓ https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/10/21/new-liaison-role-for-the-native-language-communities/ ䷉ Source: Document Foundation | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/10/21/new-liaison-role-for-the-native-language-communities/Oct 21 20:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | New Liaison role for the Native Language Communities - The Document Foundation BlogOct 21 20:05
schestowitz[TR]one microsofter sent me a plausible fake storiesOct 21 20:06
schestowitz[TR]wheich I later publishedOct 21 20:06
schestowitz[TR]and then he attacked me for it in USENETOct 21 20:06
schestowitz[TR]saying he had sent the fake storyOct 21 20:06
XRevan86Specifically, "War on Fakes", the Kremlin "debunk" Telegram channel, likes this strategy.Oct 21 20:06
schestowitz[TR]stings that mussy the water or poison the wellOct 21 20:07
schestowitz[TR]there are also sniffing operationsOct 21 20:07
schestowitz[TR]where they try to figure out who the sources areOct 21 20:07
schestowitz[TR]by pretending to be someone elseOct 21 20:07
schestowitz[TR]then asking questionsOct 21 20:08
schestowitz[TR]putin=kgbOct 21 20:08
schestowitz[TR]he's no jokerOct 21 20:08
schestowitz[TR]if  simple interrogation tactics don't yield results, they start physical tortureOct 21 20:08
schestowitz[TR]and they have all the equipmentOct 21 20:08
techrights-newsStable Diffusion is a really big deal https://simonwillison.net/2022/Aug/29/stable-diffusion/#ai-veganOct 21 20:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-simonwillison.net | Stable Diffusion is a really big dealOct 21 20:09
XRevan86schestowitz: But I still don't understand the connection to the proekt.media investigation where somebody used a neural-network-animated picture of a guy ("deepfake") in a video call.Oct 21 20:10
techrights-newsThere is also a lawsuit coming against the man behind it, Alex Graveley https://githubcopilotinvestigation.com/Oct 21 20:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-githubcopilotinvestigation.com | GitHub Copilot investigation · Joseph Saveri Law Firm & Matthew ButterickOct 21 20:10
schestowitz[TR]XRevan86: fooling the mediaOct 21 20:10
schestowitz[TR]tricked/maniipulated to publish fake storiesOct 21 20:10
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techrights-newsThis is a war on privacy waged by Gulag and its buddies in Mozille, Clownflare etc. https://adguard.com/en/blog/easylist-filter-problem-help.htmlOct 21 20:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-adguard.com | EasyList is in trouble and so are many ad blockersOct 21 20:11
techrights-newsClownflare deserves a global boycottOct 21 20:12
techrights-newsClownflare is a bunch of oversensitive, thin-skinned kids ("workers") who would block anyone who dares tell them simple facts about Clownflare and why Clownflare is evilOct 21 20:13
techrights-newsClownflare probably brainwashed its kids ("workers") into thinking they're a force for good on the WWW. They are the EXACT OPPOSITE.Oct 21 20:13
techrights-news"Unfortunately, ClownFlare does not allow non-enterprise users use that much traffic, and now all requests to the EasyList file are getting throttled." https://adguard.com/en/blog/easylist-filter-problem-help.htmlOct 21 20:14
techrights-newsClownFlare is STILL losing money. Wait till they start demanding MONEY from everyone... to basically destroy the WWW... for a FEE!Oct 21 20:15
techrights-newsPutting Clownflare in front of your WWW is a crime against the users. Removing it is an act of solidarity. Very few sites need a CDN; many need a redesign/overhaul.Oct 21 20:16
techrights-newsClown computing should be universally abandoned. It was promoted by spies. There's "no free lunch". https://world.hey.com/dhh/why-we-re-leaving-the-cloud-654b47e0Oct 21 20:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-world.hey.com | Why we're leaving the cloudOct 21 20:17
techrights-newsKevin Ottens (KDE): "Hear! Hear! No, moving your infrastructure to managed services doesn’t make sense in all cases. You need to be in the right place in term of complexity and traffic to really benefit from it. It’s less common than you’d think due to the marketing pressure."Oct 21 20:17
techrights-newsFeather – Simply beautiful open source icons https://feathericons.com/Oct 21 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-feathericons.com | Feather – Simply beautiful open source iconsOct 21 20:18
AdmFubarhttps://www.maketecheasier.com/resample-hi-res-flac-linux/Oct 21 20:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Resample Hi-Res FLAC in Linux - Make Tech EasierOct 21 20:19
techrights-newsA Real World React to htmx Port ⚓ https://htmx.org/essays/a-real-world-react-to-htmx-port/ ䷉ Source: | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//htmx.org/essays/a-real-world-react-to-htmx-port/Oct 21 20:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-htmx.org | A Real World React -> htmx PortOct 21 20:19
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiOct 21 20:20
techrights-newssamgeo.codes ⚓ https://samgeo.codes/blog/python-types/ ䷉ Source: python | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//samgeo.codes/blog/python-types/Oct 21 20:20
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techrights-newsRAII: Compile-Time Memory Management in C++ and Rust :: The Coded Message ⚓ https://www.thecodedmessage.com/posts/raii/ ䷉ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.thecodedmessage.com/posts/raii/Oct 21 20:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thecodedmessage.com | RAII: Compile-Time Memory Management in C++ and Rust :: The Coded MessageOct 21 20:21
techrights-news"“digital product” industry quite well the more specific terminology, creeping featurism" https://tdarb.org/blog/avoid-featurism.htmlOct 21 20:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tdarb.org / Avoiding FeaturismOct 21 20:21
techrights-news"When you use one programming language daily in your job as a Software Engineer, it's easy to fall into the trap of that language bubble. I want to show you how stepping outside your comfort zone and learning new languages and paradigms helped me grow as a Software Engineer." https://cichocinski.dev/blog/trying-new-programming-languages-helped-grow-software-engineerOct 21 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cichocinski.dev | How Trying New Programming Languages Helped Me Grow as a Software EngineerOct 21 20:22
techrights-news"Good software architecture is very context-specific, analyzing trade-offs that resolve differently across a wide range of environments." https://martinfowler.com/bliki/ConwaysLaw.htmlOct 21 20:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-martinfowler.com | ConwaysLawOct 21 20:23
techrights-news"look today at the coastline where most of the trees were planted. There is no sign of the mangroves that, after a decade of growth, should be close to maturity." https://e360.yale.edu/features/phantom-forests-tree-planting-climate-changeOct 21 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-e360.yale.edu | Phantom Forests: Why Ambitious Tree Planting Projects Are Failing - Yale E360Oct 21 20:25
DaemonFCWindows 95 runs really fast, even as an Electron "App".Oct 21 20:28
DaemonFCIf you could put this on a modern computer and throw in a Web browser that works and some modern graphics drivers and call it a day, I'd be happy with it.Oct 21 20:28
DaemonFCI mean, maybe a few other nice things, but it really shows how bloated Windows has become, how you trip over yourself to get anything at all done in Windows today because most of the GUI is just crap and nonsense and bits an pieces of like 10 different things.Oct 21 20:29
schestowitz[TR]just use openboxOct 21 20:31
DaemonFCIf they did A/B tests with the Windows NT4/95 Explorer ("Chicago") vs. the Windows 11 one, I'm pretty sure most of the test subjects would choose the "Chicago" shell.Oct 21 20:31
schestowitz[TR]you don't need windows for some launchers and minesweeperOct 21 20:31
DaemonFCXScreenSaver just got updated, schestowitz[TR] Oct 21 20:31
DaemonFCFINALLY!Oct 21 20:31
DaemonFCTo include......Oct 21 20:32
schestowitz[TR]okOct 21 20:32
DaemonFCA 3D MAZE CLONE!Oct 21 20:32
schestowitz[TR]does jeremy still write about pandemic?Oct 21 20:32
DaemonFCThat was one of my favorite things about Windows 95/98, was the Maze screensaver. It was interesting for the time.Oct 21 20:32
MinceRlolOct 21 20:33
DaemonFCEvery time the screen goes to that, it uses procedural generation to create a map and then has the system "solve" it using the right-handed method.Oct 21 20:33
schestowitz[TR]we still have screensaversOct 21 20:33
schestowitz[TR]but the screens of today do not need themOct 21 20:33
schestowitz[TR]it's an old fadOct 21 20:33
DaemonFCIt eventually solves it because the procedural generation rules lay out that the right-handed method has to be able to solve any map that it comes up with.Oct 21 20:34
techrights-news"Ubuntu 22.10 is here, and with it comes the full GNOME 43 experience. In this video, the October 2022 release of Ubuntu is reviewed, which will include some of the new features, and final thoughts as well." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbpO_HoiEAoOct 21 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=nbpO_HoiEAoOct 21 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: tube.cthd.icu; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=nbpO_HoiEAo )Oct 21 20:37
AdmFubarSure the "lose" it ... https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/10/21/companies-most-likely-to-lose-your-data/Oct 21 20:37
DaemonFCMost mazes are solvable with the right-handed method as long as the person who designed it wasn't trying to make it difficult to solve.Oct 21 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.helpnetsecurity.com | The companies most likely to lose your data - Help Net SecurityOct 21 20:37
DaemonFChttps://www.inverse.com/article/21386-corn-maze-lost-wall-followerOct 21 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.inverse.com | Why the 'Right-Hand' Rule Won't Work In Today’s Corn MazesOct 21 20:37
DaemonFCBut you can't count on it to work.Oct 21 20:37
schestowitz[TR]AdmFubar: yes, weird choice os wordsOct 21 20:38
schestowitz[TR]there ae companies I WANT to LOSE my dataOct 21 20:38
schestowitz[TR]or data about meOct 21 20:38
schestowitz[TR]data loss can be goodOct 21 20:38
schestowitz[TR]if it's not yoursOct 21 20:38
techrights-newsArchcraft 2022.09.16 Quick overview #linux #archcraft - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=plt-bn7AN0I | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/plt-bn7AN0IOct 21 20:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Archcraft 2022.09.16 Quick overview #linux #archcraft - InvidiousOct 21 20:38
schestowitz[TR]AdmFubar: they means lose contorl ofOct 21 20:39
schestowitz[TR]meant, controlOct 21 20:39
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/22100227Oct 21 20:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/e03y1q6qezq91.jpg created on 2022-10-02 07:47:30.934266Oct 21 20:39
techrights-news#StopUsingWindows https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/10/21/stopransomware-daixin-team see http://techrights.org/2021/05/02/ransomware-task-force/Oct 21 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | #StopRansomware: Daixin Team | CISAOct 21 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Centric “Ransomware Task Force” | TechrightsOct 21 20:41
techrights-newsSean Michael Kerner keeps on writing HEY HI nonsense puff pieces. This evening twice: https://venturebeat.com/ai/ibm-announces-system-on-chip-ai-hardware/ https://venturebeat.com/ai/adept-ai-labs-discusses-new-foundation-model-at-oracle-cloudworld/Oct 21 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IBM announces system-on-chip AI hardware | VentureBeatOct 21 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Adept AI Labs discusses new foundation model at Oracle CloudWorld | VentureBeatOct 21 20:42
AdmFubarhttps://www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/17-year-old-student-made-a-robot-to-help-his-mother-with-household-chores-11493651.htmlOct 21 20:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A 17-YO Kerala boy builds a robot for Rs 10,000 to help his struggling mother with household chores- Technology News, FirstpostOct 21 20:43
techrights-newsOpenBSD 7.2: The other other FOSS xNix released with Apple M2 support https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/20/OpenBSD_7_2_released.shtmlOct 21 20:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — OpenBSD 7.2 released (UPDATEDx3)Oct 21 20:44
AdmFubarhttps://epic.org/the-rise-of-chinese-surveillance-technology-in-africa-part-6-of-6/Oct 21 20:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-epic.org | The Rise of Chinese Surveillance Technology in Africa (Part 6 of 6) – EPIC – Electronic Privacy Information CenterOct 21 20:45
DaemonFCfoobar2000 finally has a 2.0 Beta branch.Oct 21 20:45
DaemonFCIt's extremely unstable, but it's available as a 64-bit application now.Oct 21 20:45
DaemonFCHmm, looks like I'm on Beta 10 and Beta 12 is out. Oct 21 20:46
techrights-newsKara Sherrer in ZDNet's sister site is now spamming the diploma mills of Microsoft shills, Pluralsight http://techrights.org/2022/10/15/diploma-mills-in-techrepublic/Oct 21 20:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | TechRepublic (ZDNet Sister Site) a Pusher of Diploma Mills, Roping in ‘Linux Today’ | TechrightsOct 21 20:46
DaemonFC"Please ignore Microsoft SmartScreen warnings." LOLOct 21 20:47
DaemonFCWell, Wine doesn't pull that shit, so yeah. :)Oct 21 20:47
techrights-newsFreeBSD 12.4-BETA1 now out https://forums.freebsd.org/Oct 21 20:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.freebsd.org | The FreeBSD ForumsOct 21 20:48
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Videos: Ubuntu 22.10 and Archcraft 2022.09.16 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Videos_Ubuntu_22_10_and_Archcraft_2022_09_16.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/Videos_Ubuntu_22_10_and_Archcraft_2022_09_16.gmi ∎Oct 21 20:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Videos: Ubuntu 22.10 and Archcraft 2022.09.16Oct 21 20:49
DaemonFCStill extremely unstable (in Wine anyway).Oct 21 20:49
AdmFubarhttps://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/10/us-court-rules-once-again-that-ai-software-cant-hold-a-patent/Oct 21 20:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | US court rules, once again, that AI software can’t be listed as inventor on a patent | Ars TechnicaOct 21 20:49
DaemonFCIf "AI" can't be an inventor then when copyright enforcement begins over something that ShitHub CoPilot told you to shove into your program, you can't blame CoPilot for it in court.Oct 21 20:50
DaemonFCThe person suing you will point to the court precedent that "AI" can't create anything and you are responsible for the infringement.Oct 21 20:51
techrights-newsTHat's a big patch from dodgy Intel. Will anyone actually audit the code? HHmmmmmm.... naaaa. Wait till they use Rust... and few kernel hackers will even be able to ready it. https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20221020133525.1810728-1-maciej.kwapulinski@intel.com/Oct 21 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH v4 00/10] Driver of Intel(R) Gaussian & Neural Accelerator - Kwapulinski, MaciejOct 21 20:51
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: it's not even HEY HIOct 21 20:51
schestowitz[TR]it doesn't make codeOct 21 20:51
schestowitz[TR]it just spews out large portionsOct 21 20:52
schestowitz[TR]based on fuzzy similaritiesOct 21 20:52
schestowitz[TR]it's plgiarismOct 21 20:52
schestowitz[TR]they remove the attriobutioonOct 21 20:52
schestowitz[TR]to amek you 'feel' less guuiltyOct 21 20:52
schestowitz[TR]it was made by a serial plgiaristOct 21 20:52
schestowitz[TR]Alex graveleyOct 21 20:52
schestowitz[TR]the serial sranglerOct 21 20:52
schestowitz[TR]strtangles womenOct 21 20:52
schestowitz[TR]sells drugs;Oct 21 20:52
schestowitz[TR]like to everyoneOct 21 20:52
schestowitz[TR]steals code and puts his own name on itOct 21 20:52
schestowitz[TR]basically a crook and a violent criminalOct 21 20:53
schestowitz[TR]he wrote me an email last nightOct 21 20:53
DaemonFCWas it like the letters Matthew Garret sent?Oct 21 20:53
DaemonFC*GarrettOct 21 20:53
schestowitz[TR]NoOct 21 20:53
schestowitz[TR]Ikt's factualOct 21 20:53
schestowitz[TR]only a spiled brat would get a lawyerOct 21 20:53
schestowitz[TR]but he sent his lawyer to me beforeOct 21 20:53
schestowitz[TR]except without threats only liesOct 21 20:54
schestowitz[TR]funnily enough the finace of mjg said he had been raped bya  friend of graveleyOct 21 20:54
schestowitz[TR]so this could get interestingOct 21 20:54
schestowitz[TR]and nat friedman shows up buttnaked at partiesOct 21 20:54
schestowitz[TR]mjg made an excuse for him this morningOct 21 20:55
schestowitz[TR]saying indecent exposure is no rapeOct 21 20:55
schestowitz[TR]yeah, that makes it ok thenOct 21 20:55
schestowitz[TR]nat also made rape jokesOct 21 20:55
schestowitz[TR]and he is listed as corpoprate vice president at micreosoft!Oct 21 20:55
schestowitz[TR]man who gets naked at partiesOct 21 20:55
schestowitz[TR]or shows up naked in themOct 21 20:55
schestowitz[TR]and makes rape jokesOct 21 20:55
schestowitz[TR]niceOct 21 20:55
schestowitz[TR]but wait, those are stories for next yearOct 21 20:56
schestowitz[TR]I'm spoil,ing the surprisesOct 21 20:56
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/2022/10/16/nat-friedman-theauthenticco/Oct 21 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft AstroTurfing: GitHub’s First Puppet CEO May Be Violating Wikipedia Rules With Reputation Laundering by Proxy (Hiding the Serial Strangler From Microsoft/GitHub) | TechrightsOct 21 20:56
schestowitz[TR]http://techrights.org/2022/10/07/nat-friedman-wikipedia-spam/Oct 21 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Nat Friedman Seems to Be Employing a PR Agency to Turn a Wikipedia Page About Him Into Hagiography and Hide His Strong Links to the Serial Strangler Alex Graveley | TechrightsOct 21 20:56
schestowitz[TR]to whet the appetiteOct 21 20:56
DaemonFCI figure that mjg59_ would be a rape apologist too.Oct 21 20:56
DaemonFCSince he projects on that as well as being a transphobe.Oct 21 20:56
schestowitz[TR]that was 20 yesars ago!!Oct 21 20:57
DaemonFCIt's surprising that the alleged rape is is own "partner" though.Oct 21 20:57
schestowitz[TR]"I was only 25!!!"Oct 21 20:57
schestowitz[TR]"I was young and innocent.. with a phd"Oct 21 20:57
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR], Lots of "educated" people are bigots, you know.Oct 21 20:58
techrights-newsUbuntu 22.10 "Kinetic Kudu" Released! GNOME 43, GTK4 and MORE! (NEXT-GEN) - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T3nxx40G7Ko | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/T3nxx40G7KoOct 21 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Ubuntu 22.10 "Kinetic Kudu" Released! GNOME 43, GTK4 and MORE! (NEXT-GEN) - InvidiousOct 21 20:58
DaemonFCMy dad has three college degrees, and it didn't improve the fact that he hates all kinds of people.Oct 21 20:58
DaemonFCIf anything, he's only gotten worse with age.Oct 21 20:58
DaemonFCNobody can punish him for saying anything now because he's old and fat on a pension.Oct 21 20:59
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schestowitz[TR]"old and fat on a pension"Oct 21 21:00
schestowitz[TR]Sounds like he likes to eatOct 21 21:00
schestowitz[TR]and can still afford foodOct 21 21:00
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DaemonFCYeah, the sky has always been the limit on groceries.Oct 21 21:00
schestowitz[TR]studied, married an antivaxxer who spat on his kidOct 21 21:01
schestowitz[TR]nobody's perfect ;-)Oct 21 21:01
DaemonFCMom: "He made me walk around in the one pair of shoes I had, gluing the heels back together, but I could hand him a grocery list with anything I wanted on it."Oct 21 21:01
DaemonFCWell, she wasn't wrong about that.Oct 21 21:01
schestowitz[TR]sounds prscticalOct 21 21:01
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schestowitz[TR]show fixingOct 21 21:01
schestowitz[TR]if the heel did not fall offOct 21 21:02
schestowitz[TR]that would be dangerousOct 21 21:02
DaemonFCHe wouldn't allow me to have surgery that I needed on my foot.Oct 21 21:02
schestowitz[TR]*show fixingOct 21 21:02
DaemonFCMom had to sneak me to the doctor.Oct 21 21:02
DaemonFCWhen the co-pay came (and he had good insurance at RCA) he says "FOUR HUNDRED FUCKING DOLLARS! I WOULD HAVE HAULED HIM INTO THE BATHROOM AND CUT THAT THING OFF HIS FOOT MYSELF!".Oct 21 21:02
DaemonFCI can still remember exactly how he said it too.Oct 21 21:03
DaemonFCAnd it's not like we were broke. His bank account balance, in a checking account, was always at least $50,000-60,000, and the rest tied up in investments.Oct 21 21:03
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DaemonFCAnd meanwhile I haven't had a haircut in so long I look like Cousin It and I'm cutting it out from in front of my eyes in the bathroom, and hobbling around needing foot surgery.Oct 21 21:04
DaemonFCWhile he has $12,000 of porn.Oct 21 21:04
DaemonFCHe wasn't even going to have to pay anything to let me have my wisdom teeth out, except the ride to the dentist, and he tried to stall so the insurance would expire.Oct 21 21:05
DaemonFCHe's just mean, and it's not even about the money. Neglectful of his children, and it was bad even before they knew anything about me being gay, and they just totally gave up after that.Oct 21 21:05
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DaemonFCThe state doesn't get involved unless something is going on like you're molesting your kids, not feeding them, putting out cigarettes on them, not letting them go to school.... It never got THAT bad, but they did the bare minimum not to get in any legal trouble and then washed their hands of me.Oct 21 21:07
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/2210027Oct 21 21:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/vna00r54j0r91.jpg created on 2022-10-02 01:17:07.176486Oct 21 21:08
DaemonFCI realize there's a lot of people out there who had even worse parents than me, so what right do I have to complain? At least I'm alive and not traumatized by child sexual abuse or something. But my parents were basically the worst they could be without getting into trouble with the law.Oct 21 21:08
schestowitz[TR]sounds like techuser Oct 21 21:09
DaemonFCIf the State of Indiana didn't require school vaccinations I wouldn't have even been immunized against the Measles.Oct 21 21:09
techuserwhy do people even have kids?Oct 21 21:09
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techrights-newsTSDgeos' blog: KDE Gear 22.12 release schedule finalized ⚓ https://tsdgeos.blogspot.com/2022/10/kde-gear-2212-release-schedule-finalized.html ䷉ Source: Albert Astals Cid | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//tsdgeos.blogspot.com/2022/10/kde-gear-2212-release-schedule-finalized.htmlOct 21 21:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tsdgeos.blogspot.com | TSDgeos' blog: KDE Gear 22.12 release schedule finalizedOct 21 21:10
DaemonFCSo they can realize they didn't actually want to do that after they've had them and kind of mumble their way through it like hymns at church.Oct 21 21:10
techusertoo stupid to use contraception if they want to have sex? Having kids because others do?Oct 21 21:10
techrights-newsSystemRescue 9.05 is out http://www.system-rescue.org/Oct 21 21:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.system-rescue.org | SystemRescue - System Rescue HomepageOct 21 21:10
DaemonFCAccording to mom, once my dad found out that my brother would be a "difficult pregnancy", he offered to drive her to the abortion clinic.Oct 21 21:10
DaemonFCHe was the Vice President of the Grant County Right to Life at the time.Oct 21 21:11
MinceRso that they have something to boss aroundOct 21 21:11
MinceRand someone that shares in their suffering that follows from being stuck in a human body among billions of humansOct 21 21:11
DaemonFCHe takes absolutely no responsibility for anything he does and if he finds out something is going to require effort, he burns it and walks away.Oct 21 21:11
DaemonFCOr tries to.Oct 21 21:12
DaemonFCIn order to harass her after she got a divorce, he was trying to cancel the health insurance on my brother that wasn't even costing him anything, and the only reason he didn't is the judge threatened to put him in jail for contempt if he did that.Oct 21 21:12
DaemonFCOn Facebook, he's defending Herschel Walker and calling him a "guy with a troubled past who has learned from his mistakes".Oct 21 21:13
DaemonFC:)Oct 21 21:13
DaemonFCHerschel also wrote out a $700 check and told someone to get an abortion.Oct 21 21:13
DaemonFCThey'd probably get along famously together.Oct 21 21:14
MinceRalso because cultists tell them it's so great to have kidsOct 21 21:14
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MinceR(and you'd better help the cult to outbreed the other cults, even if it kills us all)Oct 21 21:14
DaemonFCConservatives seem to actually want abortion to be around. They just don't want it in their state. Why? They can afford to hop in the car and go to Illinois and not talk about it ever again while it punishes blacks for having sex.Oct 21 21:15
DaemonFCThey're too stupid to realize that in 20 years, their state will be a crime-ridden cesspit that makes 2022 look like the land of milk and honey if they get what they want.Oct 21 21:15
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/21/today_s_howtos.2.gmi ∎Oct 21 21:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's howtosOct 21 21:16
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DaemonFCIf my dad won that argument, my brother would have been aborted in a clinic in Chicago and they never would have even told me she had been pregnant.Oct 21 21:16
DaemonFCAnd he would have told her to murder me too if he thought that pregnancy would be "difficult".Oct 21 21:16
DaemonFCHow do you think that makes me feel about him?Oct 21 21:17
schestowitz[TR]imagines if they told him you'd turn out gayOct 21 21:19
schestowitz[TR]and married to an "asian"Oct 21 21:19
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiOct 21 21:20
schestowitz[TR]you said he got 3 college degree, still joined scientologyOct 21 21:20
schestowitz[TR]my parents were barely educated or pooly educated but still looked after us OKOct 21 21:21
schestowitz[TR]sometimes rich parents are the worstOct 21 21:21
schestowitz[TR]too arrogant and poatronisingOct 21 21:21
schestowitz[TR]and have kids for "status"Oct 21 21:21
schestowitz[TR]then parcel them off to some "boarding school"Oct 21 21:21
schestowitz[TR]coz they "get in the way"Oct 21 21:21
techrights-newsIntel Releases First Arc GPU Driver For Linux, Tinkering Prowess Required - Techgage ⚓ https://techgage.com/news/intel-releases-first-arc-gpu-driver-for-linux/ ䷉ Source: Techgage | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//techgage.com/news/intel-releases-first-arc-gpu-driver-for-linux/Oct 21 21:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Releases First Arc GPU Driver For Linux, Tinkering Prowess Required – TechgageOct 21 21:25
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DaemonFC<schestowitz[TR]> then parcel them off to some "boarding school"Oct 21 21:26
DaemonFCI should have been so lucky.Oct 21 21:26
schestowitz[TR]still sad to hear your storyOct 21 21:26
DaemonFCThat would have cost money.Oct 21 21:26
schestowitz[TR]rejection by parents is eternally hurtfulOct 21 21:26
schestowitz[TR]and it sounds like he stiull just barely tolerates youOct 21 21:27
schestowitz[TR]to act politeOct 21 21:27
schestowitz[TR]he might lose firends for being an a-hole to youOct 21 21:27
techuserI'm more than rejected by parentsOct 21 21:27
techuserparents don't know/care that progress is evilOct 21 21:27
techuserpeople on IRC *also* seems to not care muchOct 21 21:27
techuser*seemOct 21 21:27
techuser*my parentsOct 21 21:28
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techusernever had friendsOct 21 21:28
techusernever had love, though maybe it is a good thingOct 21 21:28
schestowitz[TR]you can copeOct 21 21:29
schestowitz[TR]find alternativesOct 21 21:29
schestowitz[TR]when you were away from this network people asked about youOct 21 21:29
schestowitz[TR]so maybe we're not your friendsOct 21 21:29
schestowitz[TR]but at least we care for youOct 21 21:29
techuserI don't know why do people ask this.Oct 21 21:29
schestowitz[TR]maybe because you live in ukraineOct 21 21:29
schestowitz[TR]there is a school near usOct 21 21:30
schestowitz[TR]200 meterOct 21 21:30
schestowitz[TR]it has a ukraine flag up[Oct 21 21:30
schestowitz[TR]on a poleOct 21 21:30
techuserIf it is the case, I wonder if it is because they are curious about what is happening in Ukraine, or it is SJW stuff.Oct 21 21:30
schestowitz[TR]which is.. strangerOct 21 21:30
schestowitz[TR]in a schoolOct 21 21:30
schestowitz[TR]what if the school has kids with russian parents?Oct 21 21:30
techuserSJWs are evilOct 21 21:30
techuserthey cancel RussiansOct 21 21:30
schestowitz[TR]not just themOct 21 21:31
schestowitz[TR]many westerners do thisOct 21 21:31
schestowitz[TR]like they're all putinsOct 21 21:31
techuserpeople brainwashed by SJWs iiucOct 21 21:31
DaemonFChttps://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/10/20/bipartisan-legislative-panel-objects-to-continued-covid-19-emergency-rules-filed-by-illinois-department-of-public-health/Oct 21 21:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lakemchenryscanner.com | Bipartisan legislative panel objects to continued COVID-19 emergency rules filed by Illinois Department of Public HealthOct 21 21:31
DaemonFC"(The Center Square) – A bipartisan panel of Illinois lawmakers on Tuesday objected to continued emergency rules filed by the Illinois Department of Public Health, with one member saying, “the pandemic is over.”"Oct 21 21:31
DaemonFC“The pandemic is over. It is time for us to get back to the normal way of doing business,” Reick said during the hearing.Oct 21 21:32
DaemonFC"JCAR issued a formal objection to the executive order on Tuesday. The IDPH will now have 90 days to respond."Oct 21 21:32
schestowitz[TR]PendemicIsOver(R) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/17/cdc-data-on-us-deaths/Oct 21 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » CDC Data: US Deaths About 25% Higher This Winter Than Last Winter Before COVID-19 (Updated)Oct 21 21:32
techuserbeing attracted to specific people eventually hurtsOct 21 21:33
techuserthey disappear, or they betrayOct 21 21:33
schestowitz[TR]yeahOct 21 21:33
schestowitz[TR]trueOct 21 21:33
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_ReickOct 21 21:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Steve Reick - WikipediaOct 21 21:33
DaemonFCA Republican tax attorney says "pandemic is over".Oct 21 21:33
DaemonFC"I love democracy." -PalpatineOct 21 21:33
techuseralso "betray" not always like true betrayal. Sometimes their opinions suddenly change and you aren't compatible with them anymore.Oct 21 21:33
schestowitz[TR]your brother..Oct 21 21:33
schestowitz[TR]sometimes external factors like fake friends, who branwash themOct 21 21:34
DaemonFCI love that we have elections that result in giving tax attorneys the ability to set public health policy.Oct 21 21:34
schestowitz[TR]so what if over 1 million EXTRA people die per year?Oct 21 21:35
schestowitz[TR]in the US aloneOct 21 21:35
schestowitz[TR]go back to work, you won't reach age 67  anywayOct 21 21:35
schestowitz[TR]take 2 jobs, tooOct 21 21:35
schestowitz[TR]food, energy and hjousing is getting expensioveOct 21 21:35
schestowitz[TR]no time to live, work two jobsOct 21 21:35
techuserwhat is "live" though?Oct 21 21:36
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR], Pfizer says cash price of $130 _per dose_ as soon as the government stops buying it.Oct 21 21:36
techuser*to liveOct 21 21:36
techuserI feel like I'm wasting my timeOct 21 21:36
DaemonFCThe government is paying Pfizer $30.Oct 21 21:36
schestowitz[TR]techuser: that's philosophyOct 21 21:36
schestowitz[TR]ask bears and doigsOct 21 21:36
techuserno idea if I can ever be happyOct 21 21:36
schestowitz[TR]wild and domesticatedOct 21 21:36
techuserdoing some stuff, idk for whyOct 21 21:36
schestowitz[TR]doigs seleep and eat a lotOct 21 21:36
schestowitz[TR]some humans play games and watch pr0nOct 21 21:36
schestowitz[TR]b ears look for food to surviveOct 21 21:36
schestowitz[TR]but they have ample spaceOct 21 21:36
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR], Go get vaxxed and boosted. Only $530. You wouldn't want to be a "criminal". (Bourla)Oct 21 21:36
schestowitz[TR]https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/21/pfizer-secrecy/Oct 21 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Pfizer Refuses to Explain What It’s SellingOct 21 21:37
schestowitz[TR]bourla canceled the mettingOct 21 21:37
schestowitz[TR]he refuses to speak to our representativesOct 21 21:37
DaemonFCYou get to subscribe to "annual booster" for only $130 a year after your "VAXXED AND BOOSTED" trial is up.Oct 21 21:37
DaemonFC:)Oct 21 21:37
DaemonFCPROBLEM SOLVED! - mjg59_ Oct 21 21:37
schestowitz[TR]after he got a 30,000,000,000+ SECRET contractOct 21 21:37
schestowitz[TR]the EU contract aloneOct 21 21:38
DaemonFC"WHY AREN'T THE BLACKS GETTING VAXXED AND BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSTED!?!?!?!?" - mjg59_ and Bill Gates'Oct 21 21:38
techusergames and pr0n may help waste timeOct 21 21:38
techuseryet won't make me happyOct 21 21:38
techuserI probably forgot how it feels to be happyOct 21 21:38
schestowitz[TR]blacks are suspicious for historical reasons tooOct 21 21:38
schestowitz[TR]tired of eugenics and being experiemnted uponOct 21 21:38
schestowitz[TR]the press just uses the blacks thereOct 21 21:38
schestowitz[TR]to stigmatise them as "stupid"Oct 21 21:39
schestowitz[TR]for not having high vaccinatioin rtaesOct 21 21:39
DaemonFCYeah, like having the US government test syphilis on them and watch them go crazy and die for over 30 years.Oct 21 21:39
schestowitz[TR]in switzerland the rates of vacccinated is 69%Oct 21 21:39
schestowitz[TR]and they're like the world's pharma capitalOct 21 21:39
DaemonFCWhile some black nurse that they hired, who had full knowledge, "encouraged" their participation.Oct 21 21:39
schestowitz[TR](vaccinated for covid-19)Oct 21 21:39
DaemonFCAnd then Gates mutilating their genitals.Oct 21 21:39
schestowitz[TR]they get vaccinated a lot, but are pickyOct 21 21:39
schestowitz[TR]I meant suspecting, not suspiciousOct 21 21:40
DaemonFCGrandma Harmon (the Irish woman): "Black people can't help being stupid. They just are!".Oct 21 21:40
DaemonFC:)Oct 21 21:40
schestowitz[TR]another generationOct 21 21:40
DaemonFCHer mother wasn't like this at all I'm told. Nobody knows what my grandmother came out so mean.Oct 21 21:40
schestowitz[TR]she grew up in an America where there was institutional segrragation Oct 21 21:41
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schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: are you telling me current health chief under Sleep Bailout is an accountant?Oct 21 21:42
schestowitz[TR]it says noitOct 21 21:43
schestowitz[TR]IL politicianOct 21 21:43
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schestowitz[TR]" Being the first person in his family to attend college, he graduated from University of Illinois in 1975 with bachelor's degree in Accountancy and went on to earn a Juris Doctor and a master's degree in Accountancy and Taxation from the University of Georgia in 1980"Oct 21 21:43
schestowitz[TR]totally knows his "shit" on pandemicsOct 21 21:43
schestowitz[TR]seems like 'moneyman'Oct 21 21:44
schestowitz[TR]thinking of opandemic as obstacle to profitOct 21 21:44
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schestowitz[TR]wikipedia is adsOct 21 21:44
schestowitz[TR]for politics and corporationsOct 21 21:45
schestowitz[TR]event he history articles are biasedOct 21 21:45
schestowitz[TR]at least in en.wikipedia.orgOct 21 21:45
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schestowitz[TR]articles on war are just edit warsOct 21 21:45
DaemonFC<schestowitz[TR]> seems like 'moneyman'Oct 21 21:46
DaemonFCTax accountant means "helps rich people screw everyone else each year, for a nominal fee".Oct 21 21:46
techrights-newsMiami Herald does fake 'reviews' (spam) instead of articles https://news.google.com/__i/rss/rd/articles/CBMiQWh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lm1pYW1paGVyYWxkLmNvbS9oZWFsdGgtd2VsbG5lc3MvYXJ0aWNsZTI2NzYxOTA0Ny5odG1s0gFBaHR0cHM6Ly9hbXAubWlhbWloZXJhbGQuY29tL2hlYWx0aC13ZWxsbmVzcy9hcnRpY2xlMjY3NjE5MDQ3Lmh0bWw?oc=5Oct 21 21:46
DaemonFCRich people used to boast about how much they had to pay in tax. Now they boast about paying less than their office secretary. Oct 21 21:47
schestowitz[TR]the only tax they pay is the bribery of politiciansOct 21 21:47
schestowitz[TR]to nensure they don't pay real taxOct 21 21:47
chunkyi love u!!Oct 21 21:47
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DaemonFCMost major corporations took on loans to fund their operations when they had a lot of cash parked overseas.Oct 21 21:49
DaemonFCIt was cheaper to take on the loans than to repatriate the cash. So they waited for "Trump", got the "tax law", then brought the cash over and paid less tax than the interest on the loans cost them.Oct 21 21:49
techrights-newsHow I use Linux on my Chromebook ⚓ https://www.aboutchromebooks.com/news/how-i-use-linux-on-my-chromebook/ ䷉ Source: AboutChromebooks | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.aboutchromebooks.com/news/how-i-use-linux-on-my-chromebook/Oct 21 21:50
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HelenahYes, trump was business man material in control of Government. lolOct 21 21:50
DaemonFCThe government could have passed a law that said it doesn't matter when you bring it back, you owe this rate whenever you do.Oct 21 21:50
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DaemonFCSo you may as well just pay up.Oct 21 21:50
DaemonFCOr, better. You owe it now and you will pay us now.Oct 21 21:51
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schestowitz[TR]they will bend laws to suit themOct 21 21:52
schestowitz[TR]SCOTUS in Citizens United will say it's OK to bribeOct 21 21:52
schestowitz[TR]bribes okOct 21 21:52
schestowitz[TR]tax evasion OKOct 21 21:52
schestowitz[TR]economy down the toiletOct 21 21:52
schestowitz[TR]truss tried it hereOct 21 21:52
schestowitz[TR]we sent her packingOct 21 21:52
schestowitz[TR]6 years, soon 5th or 6th job candidateOct 21 21:53
schestowitz[TR]for PMOct 21 21:53
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techrights-news"About a year ago I wrote about my gripes with Firefox not playing nicely with KDE Plasma Activities and how I created an Activity-aware Firefox hack/wrapper." https://matija.suklje.name/activity-aware-firefox-041Oct 21 21:55
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DaemonFCOh that's nice. I just wasted an extra $30 in printing costs on documents for immigration.Oct 21 22:04
DaemonFCHad I just used "standard" paper, it was 6 cents a page cheaper.Oct 21 22:04
DaemonFCFedEx keeps changing the settings to make printing more expensive if you run off prints using the default options.Oct 21 22:05
MinceRhttps://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/funny-pictures-8-18-22-5.jpgOct 21 22:08
schestowitz[TR]going to record a video about phoronix nowOct 21 22:13
schestowitz[TR]any other topics to cover in video much welcomeOct 21 22:13
schestowitz[TR]as we don't have many topics in mind latelyOct 21 22:14
DaemonFCFedEx is really evil.Oct 21 22:16
DaemonFCI just needed this all on the cheapest paper to show bank statements and shit to Immigration officers.Oct 21 22:16
DaemonFCI'm glad I noticed it before sending them another batch with 123 sheets on it.Oct 21 22:16
DaemonFCFor Standard White paper to be an option, you have to first select Black & White.Oct 21 22:18
DaemonFCBlack & White is not the default, that way they can charge you for the expensive laser paper and Color prints even if the document is Black & White.Oct 21 22:18
techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiOct 21 22:20
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR], You also get a 10% print discount with a free business account.Oct 21 22:20
DaemonFCSo I signed up for one and then I had to block FedEx because they started calling my cell phone every morning at 9 AM wondering how they could "help" my business.Oct 21 22:20
DaemonFCI've trimmed a lot of the excess pages out of these cell phone bills and bank statements where it's just like "Information about your account" that repeats on every bill or 4 pages and a blank to say "Did you know you can ask for a credit card limit increase?".Oct 21 22:22
DaemonFCSo if you just throw all of these papers in and hit print, it's $76.Oct 21 22:23
DaemonFCBut if you choose Black & White it's $26, and if you step down to Standard White paper, it's only $16.Oct 21 22:23
DaemonFCFuckers.Oct 21 22:23
DaemonFCThey got me for about $30 vs. had I known that from the beginning.Oct 21 22:24
DaemonFCI knew B&W was cheaper so I fixed that, but I was using laser paper.Oct 21 22:24
*dope_dealer gives DaemonFC some dopeOct 21 22:44
dope_dealerim a dope dealer niggaOct 21 22:44
DaemonFCschestowitz[TR], What is this?Oct 21 22:44
dope_dealerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OdDmC1-p4EOct 21 22:45
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schestowitz[TR]done with the videoOct 21 23:04
schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: ignore trollsOct 21 23:04
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techuserhorseface: ^ btwOct 21 23:05
techuseroh, you were offlineOct 21 23:05
techuserdope_dealer talks about drugsOct 21 23:05
techuserinvite him to your IRC network maybeOct 21 23:05
techuser*themOct 21 23:05
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schestowitz[TR]he's not wanted hereOct 21 23:13
schestowitz[TR]all he does is spout racist wordsOct 21 23:13
schestowitz[TR]and suggesting illegal stuffOct 21 23:14
schestowitz[TR]and no actual contribuition other than this trollingOct 21 23:14
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dope_dealerim blackOct 21 23:15
dope_dealerim also into technology, i use the dark web and cryptocurrenciesOct 21 23:16
dope_dealerim here for the links and i stay for the conversationsOct 21 23:16
schestowitz[TR]you never participate in conversationsOct 21 23:17
dope_dealeri like to read themOct 21 23:17
dope_dealerim a bit of a lurkerOct 21 23:17
schestowitz[TR]so read themOct 21 23:17
schestowitz[TR]and stop caloling everyoine "ni***er"Oct 21 23:17
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schestowitz[TR]and suggesting illegal stuff to themOct 21 23:17
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dope_dealerhow do i know whats illegal when im from a magical place where drugs aren't so illegalOct 21 23:18
techrights-newsPrivacy and freedom should be the legacy we leave, not the opposite ⚓ https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/privacy-and-freedom-should-be-the-legacy-we-leave-not-the-opposite ䷉ Source: Swatantra | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.fsf.org/blogs/community/privacy-and-freedom-should-be-the-legacy-we-leave-not-the-oppositeOct 21 23:18
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techrights-newsResiliency Superpowers with eBPF https://www.infoq.com/presentations/ebpf-resiliency/Oct 21 23:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoq.com | Resiliency Superpowers with eBPFOct 21 23:20
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XRevan86techuser: "SJWs are evil; they cancel Russians" <- https://nitter.it/cathy39637692/status/1583403543457042433Oct 21 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cathy (@cathy39637692): "Books by Vladimir Kara-Murza, Ekaterina Shulman, Leonid Parfyonov, Boris Akunin, Dmitry Glukhovsky, Mikhail Zygar and other opposition-minded authors and foreign agents were forbidden to put books in a prominent place in the Moscow House. How soon will they start burning?"|nitter.itOct 21 23:38
techuserboth sides being evilOct 21 23:39
XRevan86+ https://nitter.it/TSJPhillips/status/1583517750928244738Oct 21 23:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Timothy Phillips (@TSJPhillips): "The childish, chilling censorship of fascist Russia creeps ever further. Regime opponents are now non-persons. Boris Akunin, one of the country’s most famous writers and a Putin critic, has had his name removed from plays he wrote at two theatres. https://meduza.io/amp/en/news/2022/10/21/ministry-of-culture-figures-who-disavow-russia-will-completely-logically-disappear-from-posters"|nitter.itOct 21 23:40
XRevan86Oh, Meduza covered it, quick.Oct 21 23:40
starstreaklinucks btwOct 21 23:41
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techrights-newsEML IIT Hyderabad to Host Richard Matthew Stallman (RMS) This Coming Week | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/10/21/richard-stallman-hyderabad/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/21/richard-stallman-hyderabad/Oct 21 23:49
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schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: your article is mentioned in https://yewtu.be/watch?v=X1VjJnTQPBQOct 21 23:54
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