| schestowitz | But they can pass on poison to the well-indoctrinated. | Jan 14 00:00 |
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| MinceR | he's consistently done these things over and over, willfully, shown no remorse and he has shown that he cares only about money and is willing to harm anyone and everyone to get it | Jan 14 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | Those who believe Pearly is an Angel | Jan 14 00:00 |
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| twitter | They can pass on anything to the ignorant. | Jan 14 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | Well, he does after all own a lot of media companies | Jan 14 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: let me find a good message | Jan 14 00:01 |
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| twitter | M$ Death Watch Updated with CES and Windows 7 sales projections http://slashdot.org/~twitter/jo... | Jan 14 00:01 |
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| schestowitz | ____/ Ian Hilliard on Monday 12 January 2009 14:42 : \____ | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | > | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | > | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | > ml2mst wrote: | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | > | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | >> I'm wondering to what the nickname "The Vole" (when talking about MS) | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | >> refers to. | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | >> | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | >> All I fount out is, that MS was called The Vole @ The INQ. But still | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | >> don't understand why. | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | >> | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | >> I found a couple of articles about a rat alike species, but can't figure | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | >> out what they have in common. | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | >> | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | >> What's the missing link? | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | >> | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | >> TIA | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | >> | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | > | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | > In Startrek TNG lore, the Vole was the queen of the Borg. The Borg is a race | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | > of partly organic and partly technological creatures that move from region | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | > to region taking over other species. Any species that the Borg could not | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | > integrate it would attempt to destroy. There was a time when Microsoft | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | > behaved much like the Borg. As such, Bill Gates was called the Vole. | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | > | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | > The days where Microsoft was all conquering have past. Those days started to | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | > pass just about the time that Steve Balmer took control. To me the reason | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | > for this is simple. Under Bill Gates, the aim of Microsoft was to control | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | > the world of technology. Under Steve Balmer, the aim of Microsoft is to | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | > make as much money as possible as quickly as possible. | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | > | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | > The results have been clear. Under Steve Balmer, Microsoft makes a lot of | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | > money and has made even more enemies. Steve Balmer has been a boon for | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | > Linux and FOSS in general. | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| tessier_ | yuhong: That bad? He should be drawn and quartered! | Jan 14 00:02 |
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| tessier_ | I had no idea that the Borg queen was called the Vole | Jan 14 00:03 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* @ despite the release of Vista rebranded as Windows 7 | Jan 14 00:03 |
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| tessier_ | And I used to watch a lot of trek | Jan 14 00:03 |
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| MinceR | me neither | Jan 14 00:03 |
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| cj | wowza. pastebin, schestowitz :) | Jan 14 00:03 |
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| twitter | PC Makers expect Windows 7 to do nothing to improve sales, they instead expect it to decline another 2 to 8%. :) | Jan 14 00:04 |
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| twitter | I thought a Vole was a kind of field mouse. Oh well, make it so. | Jan 14 00:04 |
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| twitter | dinner time. | Jan 14 00:04 |
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| schestowitz | 7 will give Lucky 7 (the number) a bad name | Jan 14 00:04 |
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| schestowitz | They are on a killpath | Jan 14 00:04 |
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| schestowitz | Like with Fiji | Jan 14 00:04 |
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| twitter | yep bbl. | Jan 14 00:05 |
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| schestowitz | Fiji's fury over Microsoft's Pacific solution http://www.smh.com.au/news/biztech/fijis-fu... | Jan 14 00:05 |
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| schestowitz | "Fiji's military government has written to the software giant Microsoft demanding the company not use their country name in any of its products." | Jan 14 00:06 |
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| yuhong | To be honest, I don't think Linux is a bad OS and I almost never criticise Linux. | Jan 14 00:08 |
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| yuhong | What does Pearly refers to? | Jan 14 00:09 |
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| MinceR | i think gates | Jan 14 00:09 |
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| yuhong | Why? | Jan 14 00:09 |
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| tessier_ | yuhong: As far as I'm concerned it's less about any specific software and more about the freedom and the process of FLOSS. Linux just happens to be the only usable FLOSS kernel we have | Jan 14 00:10 |
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| MinceR | it's sarcasm. you've never heard the phrase "pearly gates"? | Jan 14 00:10 |
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| tessier_ | I don't trust Sun and their license. | Jan 14 00:10 |
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| schestowitz | Noorda... | Jan 14 00:10 |
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| tessier_ | MinceR: It's a cultural thing. My wife has never heard of "pearly gates" either. | Jan 14 00:10 |
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| yuhong | No not me either. | Jan 14 00:10 |
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| schestowitz | The shark has pearly teeth | Jan 14 00:10 |
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| schestowitz | Mackey (??) the Knife. | Jan 14 00:11 |
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| tessier_ | It's a westerner/english/christian expression. | Jan 14 00:11 |
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| yuhong | What about "Jobs", do you mean Steve Jobs? | Jan 14 00:11 |
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| tessier_ | Buddhists don't have a St Peter to wait for them at the Pearly Gates of heaven. | Jan 14 00:11 |
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| yuhong | I don't think FOSS is bad either. | Jan 14 00:12 |
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| schestowitz | Mitch Kertzman, former CEO of Sybase, a Microsoft competitor in the database arena: | Jan 14 00:13 |
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| schestowitz | "To me, Bill is the great white shark that looks at minnows with no more consciousness than we look at a plate of food. The shark has no soul. The shark knows no boundaries. All it has is an appetite. When the shark gets hungry, it thinks “I’m hungry”, so it eats." | Jan 14 00:13 |
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| yuhong | "Linux just happens to be the only usable FLOSS kernel we have" | Jan 14 00:13 |
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| yuhong | Not true, there are *BSD and OpenSolaris. | Jan 14 00:13 |
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| yuhong | And ReactOS too. | Jan 14 00:14 |
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| yuhong | What about "Jobs", do you mean Steve Jobs? | Jan 14 00:14 |
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| schestowitz | They suffer from momentum/publicity problems | Jan 14 00:14 |
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| schestowitz | Same for GNU | Jan 14 00:14 |
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| yuhong | But these are still usable FOSS kernels. | Jan 14 00:15 |
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| yuhong | What about "Jobs", do you mean Steve Jobs? | Jan 14 00:15 |
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| yuhong | Also, you mentioned Intel execs in a previous IRC. | Jan 14 00:17 |
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| yuhong | How does their crimes compare to MS. | Jan 14 00:17 |
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| tessier_ | I just said I don't trust Sun. | Jan 14 00:18 |
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| tessier_ | ReactOS is a windows emulation right? | Jan 14 00:18 |
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| MinceR | 011858 < tessier_> It's a westerner/english/christian expression. | Jan 14 00:18 |
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| tessier_ | BSD is a FLOSS kernel I suppose. | Jan 14 00:18 |
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| MinceR | yes, but it has spread a lot in popular culture | Jan 14 00:18 |
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| tessier_ | I do prefer the GNU userland as well though. | Jan 14 00:19 |
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| tessier_ | MinceR: Popular western culture. | Jan 14 00:19 |
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| schestowitz | If the world no longer revolves around Sun, then what? | Jan 14 00:19 |
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| MinceR | (i'm not a native english speaker and not christian either) | Jan 14 00:19 |
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| tessier_ | MinceR: The vast majority of people on earth do not know about the Pearly Gates. | Jan 14 00:19 |
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| MinceR | yes, western :) | Jan 14 00:19 |
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| MinceR | the vast majority of people on earth can't connect to the internet, either :> | Jan 14 00:19 |
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| tessier_ | Indeed. | Jan 14 00:19 |
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| *schestowitz thinks MinceR has strong English skills | Jan 14 00:20 |
| *MinceR hopes so :) | Jan 14 00:20 |
| *schestowitz sulks at many self-inflicted typos | Jan 14 00:20 |
| MinceR | my pronunciation isn't that great though | Jan 14 00:20 |
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| tessier_ | MinceR: What is your first language? | Jan 14 00:20 |
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| MinceR | and i probably still can't really separate the UK parts from the US parts of what i use | Jan 14 00:20 |
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| MinceR | tessier_: hungarian | Jan 14 00:21 |
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| tessier_ | Ah. | Jan 14 00:21 |
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| tessier_ | I have a friend from one of my other IRC channels in Hungary right now. | Jan 14 00:21 |
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| tessier_ | He is from there . | Jan 14 00:21 |
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| MinceR | reactos isn't an emulation, it's a windows reimplementation | Jan 14 00:22 |
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| MinceR | i guess they aim to replace a bad implementation of a bad design with a good implementation of a bad design. :) | Jan 14 00:22 |
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| tessier_ | http://i.gizmodo.com/512991... | Jan 14 00:23 |
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| tessier_ | And that rules out ReactOS. | Jan 14 00:23 |
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| tessier_ | There are a lot of reasons to not like Windows, not just the company that made it | Jan 14 00:23 |
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| MinceR | indeed. actually i think there aren't many reasons to use it at all | Jan 14 00:25 |
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| MinceR | some apps holding the user back, perhaps -- but even that can be arranged for via dual-booting or in a vm | Jan 14 00:25 |
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| schestowitz | ReactOS uses Wine, AFAIK | Jan 14 00:26 |
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| tessier_ | But then you still have to buy windows | Jan 14 00:26 |
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| schestowitz | MS hired one of the lead devs | Jan 14 00:26 |
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| tessier_ | I really don't even know why ReactOS or Wine are bothering to do what they do | Jan 14 00:26 |
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| NeonFloss | I find them useful | Jan 14 00:27 |
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| MinceR | wine helps transition | Jan 14 00:27 |
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| tessier_ | I've never known anyone who used wine in a transition. All of the stuff people seem to want to run won't run in wine | Jan 14 00:27 |
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| MinceR | if some windows-only apps are holding the user back, they might move them to wine | Jan 14 00:27 |
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| schestowitz | SCO is up 14% | Jan 14 00:29 |
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| schestowitz | 1 cent :-) | Jan 14 00:29 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/01/... (As Dow Sinks, Charity Traffic Goes Up) | Jan 14 00:30 |
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| MinceR | also, once windows finally dies, wine might become the only way to run its apps for a while | Jan 14 00:31 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jan 14 00:32 |
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| schestowitz | Vista held great promise.. in early 2006 | Jan 14 00:33 |
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| schestowitz | Had you asked someone about it back then (only enthusiasts tried it), they'd say "it'll kill Linux" | Jan 14 00:34 |
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| schestowitz | So history repeats itself. It's a game that MS plays for PR. | Jan 14 00:34 |
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| MinceR | and the m$ fanboys don't learn because they lack the organ necessary for learning | Jan 14 00:34 |
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| schestowitz | They don't keep track | Jan 14 00:35 |
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| schestowitz | It's not their fault | Jan 14 00:36 |
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| schestowitz | The art of deception is well mastered by marleting people and MS is a marketing company | Jan 14 00:36 |
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| MinceR | it's their fault for being militantly unaware of their environment | Jan 14 00:36 |
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| schestowitz | A lot of people fold the paper and are convinced that all in their is true. | Jan 14 00:36 |
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| schestowitz | "In print"= undeniably true | Jan 14 00:36 |
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| schestowitz | People are taught to accept this as a tautology | Jan 14 00:37 |
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| schestowitz | Var Guy sucks up to the Vole (see comments, I'm there too): http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/01/12/mic... | Jan 14 00:39 |
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| schestowitz | Gun culture.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/ame... Where Jack Thompson when he can blame Microsoft? He did the same when the kid from Korea massacred kids on campus. I think he played Halo ot CS. | Jan 14 00:41 |
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| schestowitz | Dangerous coding errors revealed < http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/tech... > | Jan 14 00:45 |
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| schestowitz | "Yahoo has chosen former Autodesk CEO Carol Bartz as its new chief executive, ending its search for Jerry Yang's replacement, according to a Wall Street Journal report this morning. Autodesk, known for its computer-assisted design software, happens to be a longtime Microsoft partner, so the choice may stir new speculation about a possible Yahoo-Microsoft search deal." | Jan 14 00:49 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.techflash.com/microsoft/Yahoos_CE... | Jan 14 00:49 |
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| NeonFloss | schestowitz: sorry about the thing I did when I first joined the channel | Jan 14 01:19 |
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| NeonFloss | that was embarrassing | Jan 14 01:19 |
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| NeonFloss | lmao | Jan 14 01:19 |
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| schestowitz | I remember.. :-) | Jan 14 01:21 |
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| schestowitz | It's funny, that's all. | Jan 14 01:21 |
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| schestowitz | We got comment from likmeghn@microsoft.com | Jan 14 08:29 |
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| PetoKraus | morning | Jan 14 08:35 |
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| PetoKraus | link? | Jan 14 08:35 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/0... "You sound really concerned about Novell - when were you exited from the company?" | Jan 14 08:42 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Jan 14 09:20 |
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| PetoKraus | http://philosecurity.org/2009/01/... | Jan 14 09:45 |
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| schestowitz | Seen it last night | Jan 14 09:46 |
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| schestowitz | David Gerard posted a link in BN | Jan 14 09:46 |
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| PetoKraus | it's nice | Jan 14 09:46 |
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| PetoKraus | very nice | Jan 14 09:47 |
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| PetoKraus | i mean | Jan 14 09:47 |
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| PetoKraus | THIS is popular journalism | Jan 14 09:47 |
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| PetoKraus | this is how you do proper articles and interviews | Jan 14 09:47 |
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| schestowitz | they put text as images | Jan 14 09:47 |
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| schestowitz | I wanted to copy the quotes last night, but it was an image!! | Jan 14 09:47 |
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| PetoKraus | it doesn't make techies go like "uh oh, you're oversimplifying" and it doesn't make non-savvy people go "fuck off with all that tech" | Jan 14 09:47 |
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| PetoKraus | ah, yes | Jan 14 09:48 |
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| PetoKraus | you can grep the article - it's text :P | Jan 14 09:48 |
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| MinceR | i'd have preferred some more details though | Jan 14 09:50 |
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| MinceR | such as how does windoze allow anyone to tamper with interrupt handlers | Jan 14 09:50 |
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| schestowitz | PetoKraus: see the fonts on the sides. | Jan 14 09:56 |
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| PetoKraus | y | Jan 14 09:56 |
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| Omar871 | http://cc.aljazeera.net/con... | Jan 14 10:00 |
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| Omar871 | This is a great step. | Jan 14 10:00 |
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| schestowitz | Cool. "The Al Jazeera Creative Common Repository hosts select broadcast quality footage that Al Jazeera has released under various Creative Commons licenses." | Jan 14 10:08 |
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| schestowitz | Copyleft near.. | Jan 14 10:08 |
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| schestowitz | The BBC has heaps of archive no-one uses or has access to. Huge waste of info. | Jan 14 10:09 |
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| mib_57pwt4 | if it works for you why change it | Jan 14 10:18 |
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| Omar871 | schestowitz: :) | Jan 14 10:26 |
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| schestowitz | re: mib*? | Jan 14 10:29 |
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| Omar871 | schestowitz: perhaps it's a good thing thing to write about. | Jan 14 10:31 |
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| Omar871 | schestowitz: The Al Jazeera thing I mean. | Jan 14 10:31 |
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| schestowitz | I'm putting it among the links | Jan 14 10:34 |
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| Omar871 | Cool! | Jan 14 10:43 |
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| schestowitz | BN is a nuthouse, traffic-wise | Jan 14 11:50 |
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| schestowitz | I'm too cautious to check because analysing stats slows down an already slow server. | Jan 14 11:51 |
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| schestowitz | Almost 10GB yesterday, exc. Coral traffic. Monday was about 6GB+Coral | Jan 14 11:52 |
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| schestowitz | Oh, we've also just made FP of Linux Today. | Jan 14 11:52 |
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| Omar871 | schestowitz: Pingdom can help you sort this problem out. However, their services might be a bit costy. | Jan 14 12:10 |
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| Omar871 | http://www.pingdom.com | Jan 14 12:10 |
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| schestowitz | There are free services | Jan 14 12:10 |
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| schestowitz | I'm OK with that | Jan 14 12:10 |
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| schestowitz | We could also do things in the site to optimise it | Jan 14 12:10 |
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| schestowitz | We suffered downtimes on Monday. | Jan 14 12:11 |
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| Omar871 | Sure. | Jan 14 12:11 |
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| schestowitz | On Tuesday we spewed many error pages | Jan 14 12:11 |
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| schestowitz | I've just posted another smoking gun | Jan 14 12:11 |
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| Omar871 | oh ok | Jan 14 12:11 |
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| schestowitz | Check out the latest post on MOUs and such | Jan 14 12:11 |
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| Omar871 | By the way, can I ask you something? | Jan 14 12:11 |
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| schestowitz | In the middle east, MS has many MOUs. I see it in the news. | Jan 14 12:11 |
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| schestowitz | Sure. | Jan 14 12:11 |
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| Omar871 | Does Google ads really earn you anything? | Jan 14 12:12 |
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| Omar871 | Is it really as good as this big hype about it says it is? | Jan 14 12:12 |
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| schestowitz | No | Jan 14 12:12 |
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| schestowitz | Shane has the AdSense account | Jan 14 12:13 |
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| Omar871 | oh ok. | Jan 14 12:13 |
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| schestowitz | It paid him $50 a month the last time I heard, which is more than enough for hosting (we needed to upgrade because of bandwidth cap) | Jan 14 12:13 |
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| schestowitz | He says he uses the excess to burn and distribute Edu-Nix (the GNU/Linux distro he develops) | Jan 14 12:13 |
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| Omar871 | mhmm | Jan 14 12:13 |
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| schestowitz | There's no money in activism. | Jan 14 12:13 |
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| schestowitz | But it's *so* much fun. | Jan 14 12:14 |
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| Omar871 | Yeah, sure it is. | Jan 14 12:14 |
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| schestowitz | Fighting corruption is rewarding. | Jan 14 12:14 |
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| schestowitz | PJ says the same thing. I used to find it more stressful, but not anymore | Jan 14 12:14 |
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| Omar871 | You just get used to it over time. :) | Jan 14 12:15 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, thick skin and all. | Jan 14 12:15 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/glynmoody/... "glynmoody: Is it just me, or are Web sites using more and more cookies these days? I spend my entire life clicking on OK to allow them for the session" | Jan 14 13:09 |
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| MinceR | i accept cookies for the correct domain automatically | Jan 14 13:10 |
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| MinceR | and deny others automatically | Jan 14 13:10 |
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| schestowitz | here we go... riots and extremism fueled by the global corruption.. http://translate.google.com/t... | Jan 14 13:12 |
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| schestowitz | Just like before the world wars :-( | Jan 14 13:12 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: never accept a cookie from a stranger. | Jan 14 13:12 |
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| schestowitz | Will Yahoo CEO move pave way for Microhoo? < http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-1014202... > | Jan 14 13:14 |
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| twitter | There has been some strange cookie change lately. Often a page will redirect konqueror sessions to a setcookie page. I'll pay more attention next time. | Jan 14 13:54 |
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| twitter | A lot of people have been getting that 1930s feeling for a few years now. | Jan 14 13:55 |
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| schestowitz | 1929 | Jan 14 13:59 |
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| schestowitz | Identify the symptoms and cause: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_... Eerily familiar | Jan 14 14:00 |
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| PetoKraus | i am so freaking tired. schestowitz, do you go to gym every day? I am knackered after playing football on monday and squash yesterday... | Jan 14 14:06 |
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| PetoKraus | i could use a pint of arran's though | Jan 14 14:07 |
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| schestowitz | 4 a week | Jan 14 14:08 |
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| PetoKraus | oh well. I need to get back to sports | Jan 14 14:08 |
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| PetoKraus | it stimulates mind quite a lot | Jan 14 14:08 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, sedentary lives become common. | Jan 14 14:08 |
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| PetoKraus | just the body feels crap... | Jan 14 14:08 |
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| schestowitz | Go tot he toilet then. j/k | Jan 14 14:13 |
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| PetoKraus | ;) | Jan 14 14:15 |
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| PetoKraus | did you read about Qt relicensing | Jan 14 14:28 |
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| schestowitz | I heard something about it | Jan 14 14:29 |
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| schestowitz | Glyn twitted about LGPL. | Jan 14 14:29 |
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| schestowitz | And Qt.. | Jan 14 14:29 |
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| PetoKraus | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=n... | Jan 14 14:29 |
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| schestowitz | http://dot.kde.org/1231920504/ "This exciting change, made with consultation of the KDE Free Qt Foundation, should encourage KDE and Qt use among commercial and proprietary developers and makes the philosophy of "Qt Everywhere" complete." | Jan 14 14:30 |
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| schestowitz | I was gonna say f* Nokia, but the KDE people seem happy (?) about it.. | Jan 14 14:31 |
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| schestowitz | "All-in-all today's news means tremendous things for Free and Open Source software. The possibility of extending the reach of all of our work is exciting in and of itself, and this announcement could lead to a veritable explosion of Qt and KDE adoption." | Jan 14 14:31 |
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| trmanco | ooo | Jan 14 14:35 |
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| trmanco | you Wanna know what got released today? | Jan 14 14:35 |
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| trmanco | sorry, yesterday ... | Jan 14 14:35 |
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| schestowitz | OOo??? :-) | Jan 14 14:38 |
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| schestowitz | I got it an hour ago | Jan 14 14:38 |
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| schestowitz | There was a security update in Mandriva | Jan 14 14:38 |
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| trmanco | nop | Jan 14 14:38 |
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| trmanco | no OOo | Jan 14 14:39 |
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| trmanco | not* | Jan 14 14:39 |
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| schestowitz | But you said ooo | Jan 14 14:39 |
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| trmanco | LOL | Jan 14 14:39 |
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| trmanco | booo | Jan 14 14:39 |
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| schestowitz | Liar | Jan 14 14:39 |
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| trmanco | :( | Jan 14 14:39 |
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| trmanco | mononono got an update | Jan 14 14:39 |
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| schestowitz | OOo ooo! Mono! | Jan 14 14:39 |
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| trmanco | yeah, something like that | Jan 14 14:39 |
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| schestowitz | Did you inform the medical departments? | Jan 14 14:40 |
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| schestowitz | The infecftion ought to be controlled | Jan 14 14:40 |
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| trmanco | of what? | Jan 14 14:40 |
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| trmanco | oh | Jan 14 14:40 |
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| trmanco | no not yet | Jan 14 14:40 |
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| schestowitz | mononucleosis is infectious | Jan 14 14:40 |
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| trmanco | I don't really think my country is being deeply infedted with that | Jan 14 14:40 |
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| trmanco | infected* | Jan 14 14:40 |
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| trmanco | but I will give them a heads up :-P | Jan 14 14:41 |
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| schestowitz | Is there "Linux infestations" in your country, as MS called it? | Jan 14 14:41 |
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| *moogstrap (i=c13fc5f6@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-548f91135771c0bc) has joined #boycottnovell | Jan 14 14:42 |
| trmanco | oh yeah ... but remember, this little country that I live in is "all about microfoot" | Jan 14 14:42 |
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| trmanco | but Linux will grow | Jan 14 14:42 |
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| trmanco | and is already growing, at least in the neighborhood I live in :-P | Jan 14 14:42 |
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| moogstrap | i got my gf to switch to linux after telling her about how the OLPC project got blown apart | Jan 14 14:45 |
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| trmanco | cool | Jan 14 14:45 |
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| trmanco | I kinda did a coll thing today | Jan 14 14:45 |
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| moogstrap | but I think for most people they convert for less ideological reasons | Jan 14 14:45 |
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| trmanco | I compiled a custom kernel today :D | Jan 14 14:46 |
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| trmanco | cool* | Jan 14 14:46 |
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| moogstrap | very cool. Gentoo? | Jan 14 14:46 |
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| trmanco | nop | Jan 14 14:47 |
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| schestowitz | Cool. | Jan 14 14:47 |
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| trmanco | Fedora | Jan 14 14:47 |
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| schestowitz | Most people change for freedom | Jan 14 14:47 |
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| trmanco | it took me 20 minutes to compile it and install it | Jan 14 14:47 |
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| schestowitz | But not in the conventional sense. | Jan 14 14:47 |
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| schestowitz | More like the freedom to mess about | Jan 14 14:47 |
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| schestowitz | Not to modify code | Jan 14 14:47 |
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| moogstrap | i used to think microsoft owned the rights to all of the programming languages becauses of things like Visual C and stuff. yeeeuch | Jan 14 14:48 |
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| trmanco | visual C sucks | Jan 14 14:49 |
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| trmanco | AFAIK, it is not even POSIX compliant? | Jan 14 14:49 |
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| moogstrap | did anyone see the indy article about netbooks? http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadge... | Jan 14 14:49 |
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| moogstrap | I haven't a clue. I don't know C at all | Jan 14 14:50 |
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| trmanco | o use emacs+gcc or g++ to compile C/C++ code | Jan 14 14:51 |
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| ushimitsudoki | posix compliance is not what matters ... it is ANSI/ISO compliance that C compilers should strive for | Jan 14 14:51 |
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| trmanco | I* | Jan 14 14:51 |
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| schestowitz | Visual C? Blech. | Jan 14 14:51 |
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| schestowitz | Some people likes VB as a beginner's P/L | Jan 14 14:51 |
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| moogstrap | "In return, Microsoft wanted assurances that the netbook's screens would remain limited to less than 10.2 inches and their hard drives to a maximum of 80 GB, to prevent them eating into the company's traditional laptop market. " lol | Jan 14 14:51 |
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| trmanco | visual basic | Jan 14 14:52 |
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| trmanco | been there too... | Jan 14 14:52 |
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| trmanco | a 10 year old kid can can themselves a programmer | Jan 14 14:52 |
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| schestowitz | moogstrap: that's price-fixing | Jan 14 14:52 |
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| schestowitz | It's pat of the Intel-MS swindle. | Jan 14 14:52 |
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| schestowitz | *part | Jan 14 14:52 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: a 9-year-old can get an MCSE | Jan 14 14:53 |
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| schestowitz | :-) | Jan 14 14:53 |
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| moogstrap | sure I know. it's just nice to see it in a major newspaper, in their featured article no less | Jan 14 14:53 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.switched.com/2008/12/24/9-year-... | Jan 14 14:53 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft employs a 9-year-old kid now | Jan 14 14:53 |
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| trmanco | ... | Jan 14 14:54 |
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| schestowitz | So if you find a bug, be wary | Jan 14 14:54 |
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| schestowitz | Easter eggs might be literal/ | Jan 14 14:54 |
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| ushimitsudoki | haha MCSE at age 9 - shows how much of a joke such certifications are | Jan 14 14:54 |
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| schestowitz | Ballmer's remark about free soda pops might make sense now. | Jan 14 14:54 |
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| schestowitz | "Click, file...then "save"..." | Jan 14 14:55 |
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| schestowitz | If it's borked, reinstall or buy a new Intel PC | Jan 14 14:55 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft Jack gets slapped: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/... | Jan 14 14:58 |
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| schestowitz | "If you actually broke accurate stories yourself instead of making fun of our site so much, I might not have to point it out. It's curious that you cite our work so much, since it is typically right on the news, and yet call All Things Digital "insufferably smug." But then you would know a thing or two about that." | Jan 14 14:59 |
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| moogstrap | heh. I'm sure you've already seen this one: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/revie... | Jan 14 15:02 |
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| schestowitz | Talking points | Jan 14 15:05 |
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| PetoKraus | oh god: | Jan 14 15:05 |
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| PetoKraus | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/amer... | Jan 14 15:05 |
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| schestowitz | I'm doing a post about this stuff ATM | Jan 14 15:05 |
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| schestowitz | PetoKraus: he reached a new level | Jan 14 15:06 |
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| PetoKraus | yeah | Jan 14 15:06 |
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| twitter | love that picture | Jan 14 15:06 |
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| schestowitz | Will Microsoft reward him with XBox Live pts.? | Jan 14 15:06 |
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| PetoKraus | this can happen only in US | Jan 14 15:06 |
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| twitter | I wonder what his /. handle was | Jan 14 15:07 |
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| moogstrap | wtf. was he expecting his parents to respawn or something? | Jan 14 15:07 |
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| twitter | no, he expected them to die | Jan 14 15:07 |
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| schestowitz | Halo->Insanity | Jan 14 15:08 |
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| PetoKraus | nah | Jan 14 15:08 |
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| twitter | stories like that give new meaning to the death threats I get | Jan 14 15:08 |
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| PetoKraus | 9mm gun in a locker with kid addicted to shooting game -> insanity | Jan 14 15:08 |
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| twitter | M$ -> Insanity | Jan 14 15:08 |
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| schestowitz | Got examples? | Jan 14 15:08 |
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| schestowitz | You should pass on examples to the secret services | Jan 14 15:08 |
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| twitter | sure, let me dig them up | Jan 14 15:08 |
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| schestowitz | Some people can be 'mass threateners'. They need to become extinct | Jan 14 15:08 |
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| schestowitz | You know Microsoft's Kempin? | Jan 14 15:09 |
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| schestowitz | He is the OEM chief (well, was) | Jan 14 15:09 |
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| twitter | http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2... | Jan 14 15:09 |
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| schestowitz | He got arrested for shooting animals | Jan 14 15:09 |
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| schestowitz | He kills animals for lesisure. | Jan 14 15:09 |
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| twitter | http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2... | Jan 14 15:09 |
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| twitter | http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=... | Jan 14 15:10 |
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| schestowitz | "Regardless, it would cheaper for them to have you killed than spend good money on employing people to mod you down." | Jan 14 15:10 |
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| schestowitz | Seems like death wish, not death threat | Jan 14 15:10 |
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| twitter | http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid... | Jan 14 15:10 |
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| twitter | a wish from the same agent is a threat. I regard that troll account as one belonging to a M$ PR firm. | Jan 14 15:11 |
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| schestowitz | Death wishes | Jan 14 15:12 |
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| schestowitz | Some Microsoft lackeys get them too | Jan 14 15:12 |
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| schestowitz | I got many, but no list of links offhand. | Jan 14 15:12 |
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| schestowitz | PJ got actual threats | Jan 14 15:12 |
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| schestowitz | I did too, but I can't recall where to find them | Jan 14 15:12 |
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| twitter | anonymous threats are actual threats | Jan 14 15:12 |
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| twitter | I understand that some pranksters do that kind of thing without understanding, but the target is unable to tell the difference. | Jan 14 15:13 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2... "Your a stupid asshole, please kill yourself, I hope my words cause you to ibiblio die have fun trying to prosecute me for murder, if I ever meet you face to face I WILL kill you, ibiblioin piece of shit." | Jan 14 15:13 |
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| schestowitz | Sounds like he was drunk or something. | Jan 14 15:14 |
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| trmanco | tomorrow is a big day | Jan 14 15:14 |
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| schestowitz | :-) A stoned Darl. | Jan 14 15:14 |
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| trmanco | wait I'm confused | Jan 14 15:14 |
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| twitter | I don't get them anymore - the law changed a little. | Jan 14 15:14 |
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| trmanco | did microfoot already layoff those 15k employees ? | Jan 14 15:15 |
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| twitter | I collected some in the Troll Zoo. http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/204737 | Jan 14 15:15 |
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| schestowitz | MS Jack vs Swisher: "It appears that the pipe-smoking one has previously pissed off this Woman. I guess this time he can't call her a f*ckwit and remove her comments " | Jan 14 15:15 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/bl... http://www.thestandard.com/news/2008/11/20/kar... | Jan 14 15:15 |
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| schestowitz | Hehe, this is getting curious | Jan 14 15:15 |
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| twitter | today looks like a big day too http://finance.google.com/finance down 2% already | Jan 14 15:16 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: maybe tomorrow | Jan 14 15:16 |
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| trmanco | yeah, so tomowrrow is a big day after all | Jan 14 15:16 |
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| trmanco | tomorrow* | Jan 14 15:16 |
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| schestowitz | It's a interesting year. 1929+80 | Jan 14 15:16 |
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| twitter | maybe not. With M$'s stock price already less than $20, they don't dare. | Jan 14 15:16 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: maybe around the same thing as the results (22nd, IIRC) | Jan 14 15:17 |
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| schestowitz | They must tell investors that they cut costs somehow | Jan 14 15:17 |
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| schestowitz | I'm doing a good post now. Can you proofread? | Jan 14 15:17 |
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| twitter | sure | Jan 14 15:17 |
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| twitter | I need to look at the news this morning anyhow | Jan 14 15:17 |
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| schestowitz | Posted. Satyam, Wipro and Infosys go under regulatory artillery: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/14/fr... | Jan 14 15:18 |
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