EditorsAbout the SiteComes vs. MicrosoftUsing This Web SiteSite ArchivesCredibility IndexOOXMLOpenDocumentPatentsNovellNews DigestSite NewsRSS

03.16.07

80-85% of Open Source Community Backs Microvell Deal?

Posted in Deception, GNU/Linux, GPL, Interview, Marketing, Microsoft, Novell, Patent Covenant at 10:33 am by Shane Coyle

That’s the assertion being made by Novell’s Justin Steinman, spinner extraordinaire for this deal so far.

Novell continues to paint their patent covenant with Microsoft as "simply a covenant not to sue", and not a patent cross-license (they just agreed to pay Microsoft per-unit royalties on open source software that they ship for protection from infringement suits, it’s completely different, really).

Question: Many in the broader open source community have accused Novell of “selling out” by collaborating with Microsoft. How do you respond to that?

Steinman: There are a lot of people who do believe that Microsoft is the devil. And that’s an opinion that’s prevalent in the open source community. However, I think it’s an opinion that’s prevalent in the minority — and it’s a vocal minority. I think the vast majority, and I’d quantify that at about 80 percent to 85 percent, of the open source community actually supports this deal. The reason I think that the community supports the deal is that it supports the adoption of open source in the enterprise.

Let’s go back and look at some of the success we’ve had in the past 90 days with Microsoft. We signed a huge deal with Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart had been messing around with Linux a little bit, on fewer than 50 servers in its environment. Wal-Mart also has a very strong relationship with Microsoft. When Wal-Mart heard that Microsoft had endorsed … SuSE Linux Enterprise, Wal-Mart decided it was time to stop messing around and get serious with Linux. They added a large number — in the tens of thousands — of SuSE Linux Enterprise servers. These are not Red Hat takeaways; these are not replacing anything. … These are new Linux. So the vast majority of the community is excited about this because they’re seeing new Linux deployments. Net new.

Now if I’m in the minority and I don’t like this — if I’m Bruce Perens — then I’m going to be vocal about it. I’m going to be angry and I’m going to make a lot of noise. But if I’m in the large majority, why do I need to stick my nose in someone else’s fight? I’d rather just go on doing my job. If I like the Microsoft agreement, there’s no real benefit to me, personally, in coming out and saying that. If I did, the vocal minority is going to attack me, too. It’s easier just to keep quiet. That’s why the community perception has been misconstrued by the media at large.

Slightly more interesting is Steinman’s assertion that “Novell is committed to our Microsoft agreement, and we’re committed to helping develop a version of the GPL that enables that agreement to continue”, noting that Novell is part of the vendors committee B in the drafting process, and Novell lawyers are actively involved in the drafting process.

Novell has already committed to being GPL3 compliant and promised to alter the MS deal if necessary, rather than lose their rights to GNU but not Linux.

Share this post: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Reddit
  • co.mments
  • DZone
  • email
  • Google Bookmarks
  • LinkedIn
  • NewsVine
  • Print
  • Technorati
  • TwitThis
  • Facebook

If you liked this post, consider subscribing to the RSS feed or join us now at the IRC channels.

Pages that cross-reference this one

2 Comments

  1. Draconishinobi said,

    March 16, 2007 at 5:27 pm

    Gravatar

    “I think the vast majority, and I’d quantify that at about 80 percent to 85 percent, of the open source community actually supports this deal.”

    From all the polls I’ve seen, I think he meant the opposite … 80 – 85 % of the OSS community does NOT support this deal. I would ask him to show me the proof. Maybe he’s gonna fudge some polls ?

  2. gpl1 said,

    March 16, 2007 at 9:00 pm

    Gravatar

    Why do the press insist on making the deal about “interoperability”? We all know that the problem with the deal is that the promise not to sue only counts for Novell’s customers, which is completely against the GPL. They simply found a loophole for it. Why exactly would Novell think this would survive the next iteration of the GPL, unless they want to undermine it?

What Else is New


  1. Links - Anti-Trust Roundups - Yahoo, Nokia, Barns and Nobel





  2. Links - MSNokia Passes Blame, Bill Gates pushes GMOs, Open Access news





  3. Links 7/2/2012: Firefox 11 Enters Beta, Canonical Disappoints KDE

    Links for the day



  4. IRC Proceedings: February 6th, 2012

    IRC logs for February 6th, 2012



  5. IRC Proceedings: February 5th, 2012

    IRC logs for February 5th, 2012



  6. Links 6/2/2012: PCLinuxOS 2012.02 and Mint KDE Reviews

    Links for the day



  7. Bill Gates Indoctrinates Youth in the United States and India, Critics Speak Out

    Backlash against the Gates Crusade to brainwash the young minds all around the world



  8. Bill Gates Uses Symbolic 'Donation' to Force Taxpayers to Pay Microsoft (of Which He Holds Shares)

    The Gates Foundation goes lobbying for Microsoft again, this time in Vietnam



  9. Monopoly as Innovation?

    Challenging the old misconception that patents are beneficial to anything but few multinationals and their patent lawyers



  10. Links 5/2/2012: Lenovo in India, Netrunner 4.1 is Out

    Links for the day



  11. IRC Proceedings: February 4th, 2012

    IRC logs for February 4th, 2012



  12. OpenStack, Microsoft, Junk Patents, Microsoft Copyrights, and Oracle Copyrights

    Another look at the OpenStack situation, why Microsoft should not be allowed to enter, and more about patent and copyright complications



  13. Apple, Which Started Patent Wars, Gets What It Deserves

    Apple products get banned (for the time being) after Apple decided to attack Linux-supporting competitors and then received some blowback



  14. Unitary Patent and the Emergence of More Junk Patents

    The rise of the junk patents and what we are taught about them by the news, including some news about the unitary patent in Europe



  15. Backlash Against Bill Gates' Lobbying for Patented Life

    GMO, a robbery of the right of reproduction (and a potential health hazard), is promoted by Bill Gates for profit, whereupon critics strike back



  16. IRC Proceedings: February 3rd, 2012

    IRC logs for February 3rd, 2012



  17. Links 4/2/2012: Ubuntu 12.04 Alpha 2 Preview, ACTA Backlash in Europe

    Links for the day



  18. A Glimpse at Executives Who Left the Sinking Novell Ship

    A roundup of news about former Novell staff and where that staff is moving these days



  19. Novell Makes New Software for Microsoft Windows and Office

    PR spin from Novell and money-grabbing moves that promote proprietary software rather than Free/Open Source software



  20. Links 3/2/2012: BT Vision Goes for Linux, Linux 3.3 With Android

    Links for the day



  21. Debt in Attachmate

    The company that bought Novell has a poor outlook, financial issues, and little signs of expansion/renaissance



  22. Longtime SUSE Executive Holger Dyroff Moves on, SUSE in a Bad State

    Key people continue to leave SUSE and the distribution is left without a compelling sales pitch



  23. Groklaw Update on Android Patent Cases and Response to FUD From Microsoft Lobbyists

    A few updates of greater importance where the Linux situation is discussed in the context of Android and Novell



  24. IRC Proceedings: February 2nd, 2012

    IRC logs for February 2nd, 2012



  25. Links 2/2/2012: DEFT Linux 7, Mozilla Firefox 10

    Links for the day



  26. IRC Proceedings: February 1st, 2012

    IRC logs for February 1st, 2012



  27. IRC Proceedings: January 31st, 2012

    IRC logs for January 31st, 2012



  28. IRC Proceedings: January 30th, 2012

    IRC logs for January 30th, 2012



  29. Bill Gates is Hijacking Open Source While Attacking It Using Lobbyists, Patents, and Patent Trolls

    Response to reputation laundering from Wired Magazine, the latest nonsense from Microsoft's lobbyist Florian Müller, an update on Microsoft's trolling against Android, and a little more of Apple's



  30. The Gates Foundation is Still Hijacking the Voice of the Poor and Effectively Runs Paid Advertisements Inside 'News'

    Money still the vehicle by which opinions get heard, so Bill Gates exploits this for fame, power, and profit


RSS 64x64RSS Feed: subscribe to the RSS feed for regular updates

Home iconSite Wiki: You can improve this site by helping the extension of the site's content

Chat iconIRC Channel: Come and chat with us in real time

Recent Posts