| moogstrap | hrmm. Terrorism used a reason to kill off public wifi? http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/011509-mumb... | Jan 16 21:17 |
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| schestowitz | I am angered by the EDGI thing they pulled | Jan 16 21:17 |
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| schestowitz | The world need to be screaming | Jan 16 21:17 |
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| schestowitz | The journalists need to research this | Jan 16 21:17 |
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| schestowitz | The news is not some MOU, which anyway should be illegal in its own right | Jan 16 21:18 |
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| schestowitz | It's about Microsoft giving children cigarettes | Jan 16 21:18 |
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| schestowitz | The Wi-Fi gig is not new exactly. ;-) | Jan 16 21:18 |
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| schestowitz | They hate everything that's not centralised | Jan 16 21:18 |
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| schestowitz | It can't be censored | Jan 16 21:18 |
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| moogstrap | aye | Jan 16 21:19 |
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| schestowitz | I'm sure that TERROR~1 will still have pen, paper and voice to communicate with.. ;-) | Jan 16 21:19 |
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| schestowitz | AllThingD... | Jan 16 21:19 |
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| schestowitz | I hate that blog | Jan 16 21:19 |
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| schestowitz | Bunch of Wintel Pressers | Jan 16 21:19 |
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| schestowitz | Mossberg and the gang of goats | Jan 16 21:19 |
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| moogstrap | "EU leans towards Opera in Microsoft antitrust probe" http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/ar... a new angle for spin? | Jan 16 21:20 |
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| moogstrap | you know, double stands, blah blah evil unamerican EU | Jan 16 21:20 |
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| schestowitz | You can see the pro-MS bias there too | Jan 16 21:20 |
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| schestowitz | Yuck | Jan 16 21:21 |
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| schestowitz | Seattle P-I | Jan 16 21:21 |
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| schestowitz | Don't worry, they go out of business right now | Jan 16 21:21 |
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| schestowitz | That's all just Microsoft talking heads.. | Jan 16 21:21 |
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| schestowitz | "Anti-American" is also a common excuse | Jan 16 21:21 |
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| schestowitz | The bribing criminals from Intel (with convictions) used this "Anti-American" thing too | Jan 16 21:22 |
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| schestowitz | Which is actually funny | Jan 16 21:22 |
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| schestowitz | What is this thing "Americanism"? | Jan 16 21:22 |
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| schestowitz | Have you heard of "Norwayism"? | Jan 16 21:22 |
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| moogstrap | hah | Jan 16 21:22 |
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| schestowitz | And why is it OK to be "anti-Cuba" but not "Anti-America"? | Jan 16 21:22 |
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| schestowitz | Is Microsoft not a coonvicted monopolist? | Jan 16 21:22 |
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| schestowitz | Are Intel's proven crimes not enough to be 'anti' Intel? | Jan 16 21:23 |
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| schestowitz | In the slaughtering of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi kids just "OK"? | Jan 16 21:23 |
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| schestowitz | There's also this "Microsoft hater" label | Jan 16 21:23 |
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| schestowitz | Labels... | Jan 16 21:23 |
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| schestowitz | For the hypocrites. | Jan 16 21:24 |
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| moogstrap | the hegemony of the status quo. Uzbekistan torture and murder plenty of their own citizens. But then they play nice | Jan 16 21:24 |
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| moogstrap | so they are good friends | Jan 16 21:24 |
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| schestowitz | Play nice to who? | Jan 16 21:25 |
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| schestowitz | The US? | Jan 16 21:25 |
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| schestowitz | Murder is OK, as long as it's good for those other people. | Jan 16 21:25 |
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| schestowitz | I'm reading the Wi-Fi thing ATM... amazing and yet so classic... proving that the government's biggest enemy is its own people. | Jan 16 21:26 |
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| schestowitz | They need to be treated like kids, watched by an army of nannies | Jan 16 21:26 |
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| moogstrap | yeah. They have US bases all over | Jan 16 21:27 |
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| schestowitz | I heard about Uzbekistan in that context. | Jan 16 21:27 |
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| schestowitz | Same in Turkey | Jan 16 21:27 |
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| schestowitz | Murdering Kurds was fine with the Americans... they supported it too as long as it didn't upset the US economy... they funded Saddam similarly and gave him weapons along with the British goverment back in the days | Jan 16 21:28 |
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| moogstrap | There have been a bunch of ideas propositioned by US Senators over the years to start this whole internet thing all over again. | Jan 16 21:28 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, I know | Jan 16 21:28 |
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| schestowitz | Lessig warned about it | Jan 16 21:28 |
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| schestowitz | They'll wait for a dissaster and then 'redesign' | Jan 16 21:29 |
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| schestowitz | Then there's 'trusted' computing and BIllG's remarks on "security as lockin" | Jan 16 21:29 |
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| moogstrap | After all, if Governments knew twenty years ago what they know now, the internet wouldn't have happened | Jan 16 21:29 |
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| schestowitz | Many governments will support that massive new EDGI because it gives control... /over/ the people not /to/ the people... and the US controls the code, ironically enough | Jan 16 21:30 |
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| schestowitz | But Microsoft always has some friends in other countries, so they won't mind giving the master key to Redmond|CIA | Jan 16 21:30 |
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| schestowitz | And if they disagree, they'll get sacked (like in Kerala.. two of them) | Jan 16 21:30 |
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| schestowitz | If they take it to the streets, then a military coo (coup) seems appropriate | Jan 16 21:31 |
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| schestowitz | Like in Latin America... | Jan 16 21:31 |
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| schestowitz | The Internet began from the military and academia for their needs, but now it's a little 'too big'... enabling not just the 'responsible adults' (elites) to manage information. | Jan 16 21:32 |
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| moogstrap | the whole thing stinks to high heaven. "We need to lose your data to American corporations because Al Qaida paedophiles are swarming Britain and destroying our house prices!" is the theme in the popular press. It amazes me how the reaction of most people is complete antipathy | Jan 16 21:32 |
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| moogstrap | apathy* | Jan 16 21:32 |
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| schestowitz | Yes | Jan 16 21:32 |
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| schestowitz | Because they are not being informed | Jan 16 21:32 |
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| schestowitz | People whom I speak to know nothing about it | Jan 16 21:32 |
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| schestowitz | They find some of it shocking because it's new to them | Jan 16 21:32 |
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| schestowitz | Sports and celebrities... easier to keep one's mind on. :-) | Jan 16 21:33 |
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| moogstrap | http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2009... Obama is pro-SIlverlight | Jan 16 21:33 |
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| moogstrap | http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/41061/122/ | Jan 16 21:33 |
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| schestowitz | I know.. | Jan 16 21:33 |
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| schestowitz | Obama is a tool | Jan 16 21:33 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe that's what he talk to BillG about some weeks ago. j/k | Jan 16 21:34 |
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| schestowitz | But they do pay him a lot of money | Jan 16 21:34 |
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| moogstrap | aye | Jan 16 21:35 |
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| moogstrap | http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805... EU regulating like it's 1999 | Jan 16 21:35 |
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| moogstrap | They're questioning the EU's suspicious timing. Hrmm | Jan 16 21:35 |
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| schestowitz | Damn. Lots of annoying news today | Jan 16 21:36 |
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| schestowitz | Timing? | Jan 16 21:36 |
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| moogstrap | God knows | Jan 16 21:38 |
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| moogstrap | More worm woes: http://www.scmagazineus.com/No-end-in-sight-for... | Jan 16 21:38 |
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| *schestowitz does a post about it | Jan 16 21:40 |
| moogstrap | slightly more substantial article about the IE debacle http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/AL... | Jan 16 21:43 |
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| schestowitz | Almost there. | Jan 16 21:45 |
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| schestowitz | OK, I'll still edit: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/16/... | Jan 16 21:49 |
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| moogstrap | Looks good | Jan 16 21:53 |
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| trmanco | http://tek.sapo.pt/noticias/negocios/microso... | Jan 16 21:55 |
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| trmanco | http://translate.google.com/transl... | Jan 16 21:55 |
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| trmanco | see this | Jan 16 21:55 |
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| trmanco | more Microsoft corruption in Portugal | Jan 16 21:55 |
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| trmanco | http://www.microsoft.com/education... | Jan 16 21:55 |
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| schestowitz | I've just taken a look at what happened yesterday. | Jan 16 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | Jan 15 08:05:46 -christel-[Global Notice] Good Morning all, we'll be restarting two of our servers in about half an hour. niven (v4) and simak (v6) -- affected users are in the region of 2,000. We apologise for the inconvenience. Thank you for using freenode and have a good day! | Jan 16 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | Jan 15 08:40:34 -christel-[Global Notice] Hi again, it's 0903 and all is well. The two servers have been restarted and is linked back to the network. Thank you for your patience and have a nice day. | Jan 16 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | Jan 15 08:46:22 *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz | Jan 16 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | Right after that message from tessier my PC went into sleep... first time I had to reboot in 3 months. | Jan 16 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | It's unlikely to be a coincidence. | Jan 16 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: yes, it's a worldwide thing | Jan 16 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft has just dumped massively. | Jan 16 21:57 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/16/m... | Jan 16 21:57 |
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| moogstrap | 22:01:32 up 4 days, 22:03, 3 users, load average: 2.39, 2.40, 2.37 | Jan 16 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | Portugal: "memorandum of understanding" | Jan 16 21:58 |
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| trmanco | the problem is, that a lot a people don't wan't these stupid deals with Microsoft especially in education | Jan 16 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: people should sue those responsible | Jan 16 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | Quebec did thios | Jan 16 21:58 |
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| schestowitz | It's your right to sue them for this corruption and complain to the EC | Jan 16 21:59 |
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| schestowitz | If they view the EDGI antitrust material, then it's clear that it's anti-competitive | Jan 16 21:59 |
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| schestowitz | I wonder if all this horrible news is timed to align with layoff announcements | Jan 16 21:59 |
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| schestowitz | I said earlier that timing will count... | Jan 16 22:00 |
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| trmanco | but we "small" people, how can why deface a monopolist giant like Microsoft | Jan 16 22:00 |
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| schestowitz | You can expose them | Jan 16 22:00 |
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| trmanco | especially in portugal that mr.josé is a MS fan boy | Jan 16 22:01 |
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| schestowitz | The least we can do is post the stuff in places like Groklaw and BN | Jan 16 22:01 |
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| trmanco | the media won't expose thing against microsoft | Jan 16 22:01 |
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| schestowitz | This gives legal ammunition to those who can fight this corruption | Jan 16 22:01 |
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| r0ver | trmanco: you've also the chances to compete against them - it might sound hard.. but it is possible. | Jan 16 22:02 |
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| moogstrap | WSJ has more tidbits about the layoffs, but still only "early as next week" | Jan 16 22:02 |
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| schestowitz | Novelist hired for 'Doom 4': http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_... | Jan 16 22:02 |
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| schestowitz | For a second I thought about Novell :-) | Jan 16 22:02 |
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| NeonFloss | http://www.blogpirate.org/2009/01/16/eu-beg... | Jan 16 22:02 |
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| schestowitz | They should start legal action over EDGI | Jan 16 22:03 |
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| NeonFloss | ^ if you read that can uyou tell me if I mistated or left out something? | Jan 16 22:03 |
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| schestowitz | They were there before | Jan 16 22:03 |
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| schestowitz | They need to kick them out | Jan 16 22:03 |
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| r0ver | trmanco: i just won a contrat fighting against microsoft in my country to build a hugh intranet in the national government. | Jan 16 22:03 |
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| trmanco | in portugal your new born company will die if you don't have good management, if you go against microfoot you are criticized very hard | Jan 16 22:03 |
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| schestowitz | Out of most nations.. what they do is illegal dumping using overseas lackies who don't give a blip about education | Jan 16 22:03 |
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| trmanco | r0ver, in europe ? | Jan 16 22:04 |
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| moogstrap | MS/Yahoo deal doubtful for now http://online.wsj.com/article/SB12... | Jan 16 22:04 |
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| schestowitz | BN gets decent traffic today and I expect people to explore EDGI there. | Jan 16 22:04 |
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| schestowitz | If people at least point them in the right direction... | Jan 16 22:04 |
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| r0ver | trmanco: I live in Argentina,although i work with many europeans companies, some of them are in obooe and other organizations. | Jan 16 22:05 |
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| trmanco | cool | Jan 16 22:06 |
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| r0ver | trmanco: if it is possible to win them in a underdeveloped country... in europe, where you've a most active and organized private sector in floss.. you should be able. | Jan 16 22:06 |
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| r0ver | Educational and government are usually have problems with big companies, floss besides the control over the source code have a local impact, and that's very important for politicians | Jan 16 22:07 |
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| trmanco | I don't think so | Jan 16 22:07 |
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| schestowitz | It all comes at a good time because of the new Microsoft deal in 72,000 schools: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/16... | Jan 16 22:08 |
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| r0ver | trmanco: i do think... i was living in both places. In central countries, rules are clearer, corruption is harder... | Jan 16 22:08 |
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| trmanco | in underdeveloped countries the switch to FOSS is easier than in a developed country, IMO, thus easier to kick microfoot in the arse | Jan 16 22:09 |
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| trmanco | most people here go with the flow | Jan 16 22:09 |
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| trmanco | changes are hard | Jan 16 22:09 |
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| schestowitz | Who makes the flow? | Jan 16 22:10 |
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| schestowitz | It's Microsoft's training of teachers and adopting of 'young people' | Jan 16 22:10 |
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| schestowitz | It preys on corruption | Jan 16 22:10 |
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| moogstrap | SHowing off Linux in countries' native languages where there isn't so much MS support is always good, too. Showing off a Tagalog Ubuntu to some of my Filipino colleagues had its desired effect | Jan 16 22:12 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, Microsoft and Portugal's lousy government | Jan 16 22:12 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, it takes two to tango | Jan 16 22:12 |
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| schestowitz | Lawyers in govt. and some lawyers firm (+marketing) | Jan 16 22:12 |
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| schestowitz | Here's a guess. | Jan 16 22:13 |
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| r0ver | trmanco: are you from portugal? | Jan 16 22:13 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft had this thing cooking for a long while | Jan 16 22:13 |
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| trmanco | r0ver, yes | Jan 16 22:13 |
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| schestowitz | It wanted to use it to divert attention away from the layoffs and bad results | Jan 16 22:14 |
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| r0ver | trmanco: aren't the educators connected with people in extremadura or andalucia ? | Jan 16 22:14 |
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| schestowitz | Next week when it does badly it'll tell investors about this EDGI bundle. | Jan 16 22:14 |
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| r0ver | trmanco: they're working hard there with linux and floss in schools | Jan 16 22:14 |
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| trmanco | r0ver, yes they work hard, but there is a problem, Microsoft | Jan 16 22:14 |
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| MinceR | http://flickr.com/photos/54967518@N00... | Jan 16 22:15 |
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| trmanco | r0ver, if they push FLOSS onto any type of computer, they will ignore/uninstall and installed microsoft software, sometimes pirated | Jan 16 22:15 |
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| trmanco | install* | Jan 16 22:15 |
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| tessier_ | "The OS wars are largely over. Let's decide on a common platform. Therefore, Linux makes sense." - Grady Booch at IBM. | Jan 16 22:16 |
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| tessier_ | IBM is so weird about FLOSS. | Jan 16 22:16 |
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| r0ver | trmanco: the challenge is clear then, you've to be better than them :) | Jan 16 22:16 |
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| schestowitz | IBM and FLOSS?? | Jan 16 22:16 |
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| tessier_ | They invest in Linux, do lots of kernel development, give us JFS, etc. etc. Yet they are patent bullies and still push a lot of closed source stuff. | Jan 16 22:16 |
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| schestowitz | IBM and Leeenux | Jan 16 22:16 |
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| r0ver | trmanco: in my country there are an initiative similar as lugs but for teachers | Jan 16 22:16 |
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| tessier_ | They gave us Eclipse also. | Jan 16 22:16 |
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| schestowitz | I know | Jan 16 22:16 |
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| tessier_ | That isn't Linux. That is FLOSS. | Jan 16 22:16 |
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| schestowitz | I was going to mention that next | Jan 16 22:17 |
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| r0ver | trmanco: and it is not focused just on floss, but the knowledge around shcool teachers | Jan 16 22:17 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: *LOL* | Jan 16 22:17 |
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| r0ver | trmanco: it works... and since it share the values of free software, it's natural from them to adopt it then | Jan 16 22:17 |
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| trmanco | recently, the e-iniciativas programs is offering a laptop with 6 GB ram, a good graphics card and cpu (all intel btw) for 150€, it comes with a local linux distro installed deafult | Jan 16 22:17 |
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| schestowitz | IBM censored my comment, I think | Jan 16 22:17 |
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| schestowitz | I stuck it to them re patents. | Jan 16 22:18 |
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| schestowitz | I was a little rude only in the sense that I said something like "so you take knowledge and sell it back for good feel and PR" | Jan 16 22:18 |
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| trmanco | most of the people who buy them will format the hardrive and install Windows on it just to play games, conclusion: the intention was good but mission failed | Jan 16 22:18 |
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| trmanco | r0ver, I do my job to drive FOSS adoption | Jan 16 22:19 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, send it again | Jan 16 22:19 |
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| trmanco | :-P | Jan 16 22:19 |
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| schestowitz | I don't have a copy | Jan 16 22:19 |
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| r0ver | trmanco: evaluate, find lessons to learn, plan for next time, and move forward. The worst enemy is don't moving forward. | Jan 16 22:19 |
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| schestowitz | All comments are moderated | Jan 16 22:20 |
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| schestowitz | But the IBMers are picky about what's visible | Jan 16 22:20 |
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| r0ver | trmanco: i am sure of it. But you're not alone :D | Jan 16 22:20 |
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| schestowitz | They are like masturbating kings who only let praise about them become visible. | Jan 16 22:20 |
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| trmanco | r0ver, yes I know | Jan 16 22:20 |
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| trmanco | LOL | Jan 16 22:21 |
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| trmanco | masturbating monkeys? | Jan 16 22:21 |
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| schestowitz | At least they don't behead critics. | Jan 16 22:21 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: no, IBM doesn't do BSD | Jan 16 22:21 |
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| trmanco | wanking walruses? | Jan 16 22:21 |
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| trmanco | meh | Jan 16 22:21 |
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| schestowitz | That's Digg | Jan 16 22:22 |
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| schestowitz | http://flickr.com/photos/54967518@N00/308... | Jan 16 22:22 |
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| schestowitz | In this case, it seems like "mother-shagging Reddit lovers" | Jan 16 22:22 |
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| trmanco | LOL | Jan 16 22:23 |
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| schestowitz | Why Linux is superior to windows for non-techies < http://www.theothersolution.nl/blog6.php/... > | Jan 16 22:24 |
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| schestowitz | http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provid... convertible debt?? | Jan 16 22:26 |
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| schestowitz | Moves on top of Red Hat.. COO left, another man joins.. http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?nd... http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/s... | Jan 16 22:27 |
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| moogstrap | Micrsoft bootcamp? http://wake.mync.com/site/wake/news|Sports|Lifestyl... | Jan 16 22:28 |
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| moogstrap | oh. not very exciting | Jan 16 22:30 |
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| moogstrap | coffetime | Jan 16 22:31 |
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| *moogstrap is now known as moogcoffee | Jan 16 22:31 |
| *moogcoffee is now known as moogstrap | Jan 16 22:37 |
| moogstrap | How does one set up xchat or irssi to connect through a really hateful http-proxy that also hates tunelling? This chat applet gives me a headache | Jan 16 22:37 |
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| moogstrap | A Times article re antitrust: http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/busin... | Jan 16 22:39 |
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| moogstrap | The Register's latest worm report: http://www.theregister.co.uk/... | Jan 16 22:40 |
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| moogstrap | Aother one with a super scary BSOD image: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/v... | Jan 16 22:41 |
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| trmanco | http://www.gnu.org/music/free-s... | Jan 16 22:41 |
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| schestowitz | moogstrap: thanks for the link | Jan 16 22:43 |
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| schestowitz | I'm about to release another quick posy | Jan 16 22:44 |
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| schestowitz | 10 million is more than 1% of the world's PCs | Jan 16 22:44 |
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| schestowitz | But about 40% were already zombies back in April | Jan 16 22:44 |
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| moogstrap | This is getting messy | Jan 16 22:46 |
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| schestowitz | Help me proofread :-) | Jan 16 22:48 |
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| moogstrap | on my last voyage, my ship was virused. It's no joke. Satellite net connectiopns cost a fortune,. It got into the nav computer too. We had to shut the whole lot down,. | Jan 16 22:48 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/... | Jan 16 22:48 |
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| moogstrap | After that terribly-typed sentence? sure | Jan 16 22:48 |
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| moogstrap | Haha. I hadn't seen the Ballmer Photoshops | Jan 16 22:49 |
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| schestowitz | cj posted this here. | Jan 16 22:51 |
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| schestowitz | Using it to insult us. | Jan 16 22:51 |
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| moogstrap | Have you considered making the conficker stuff have its own separate update? | Jan 16 22:55 |
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| moogstrap | http://www.pcworld.com/article/157876/protectin... "Install Unix" would make a great first post | Jan 16 22:56 |
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| schestowitz | moogstrap: I will do that | Jan 16 22:57 |
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| schestowitz | Since you think it's necessary to capitalise on this shot-in-foot | Jan 16 22:57 |
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| schestowitz | I just think it's covered so widely so reader would be like, "oh, another one about it...' | Jan 16 22:57 |
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| schestowitz | moogstrap: ha. I saw it in twitter | Jan 16 22:57 |
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| schestowitz | I follow just one person there (Moody) | Jan 16 22:58 |
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| moogstrap | hrmm. I suppose | Jan 16 22:58 |
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| schestowitz | I saw a message saying: "@SOMENAME: install Ubuntu" | Jan 16 22:58 |
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| schestowitz | That was 10 minutes ago | Jan 16 22:58 |
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| schestowitz | I imagine that the context was conficker | Jan 16 22:58 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft In Still More Antitrust Trouble < http://www.webpronews.com/topnews... > | Jan 16 22:59 |
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| moogstrap | Graun article of the same: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/... | Jan 16 23:01 |
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| schestowitz | PC sales are stagnating.. Circuit City to Liquidate Remaining Stores < http://www.pcworld.com/article/157842/cir... > | Jan 16 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | "/16/microsoft-microsoft"?? | Jan 16 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | "Malkovic Malkovic" | Jan 16 23:02 |
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| schestowitz | Nice photo of Ballmer. So will he be sent to another deposition (one in Dec 08) | Jan 16 23:03 |
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| moogstrap | Opera's response to the antitrust: http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805... | Jan 16 23:04 |
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| schestowitz | They're doing it again.. Microsoft Uses Mac In PC-Only App Advertisement < http://www.pcworld.com/article/157831/... > | Jan 16 23:06 |
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| schestowitz | Yuck. Ina Friedshill, no thanks... | Jan 16 23:07 |
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| moogstrap | hah. She's been a very buss woman today | Jan 16 23:08 |
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| moogstrap | busy | Jan 16 23:08 |
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| moogstrap | http://chronicle.com/wiredcampus/article/3560/o... has a good comment: "Interesting that it’s so easy for an anti-Linux story to get posted here. When was the last time there was a story about how no Linux PCs are affected by viruses like the one in the news today? Nothing like Microsoft advertising dollars to help with editorial decisions, huh?" | Jan 16 23:09 |
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| schestowitz | Hehe. | Jan 16 23:10 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, that's how the press is run | Jan 16 23:10 |
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| schestowitz | There's no money in advocating FOSS, said some TechRepublic lackey who promotes Mono/.NET | Jan 16 23:10 |
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| schestowitz | The press needs to just die more quickly. | Jan 16 23:10 |
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| schestowitz | The old 'trade' press represent centralization and there is self-censorship | Jan 16 23:11 |
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| schestowitz | People know there are certain things they are not allowed to write or that they risk they careers if they write about them... | Jan 16 23:11 |
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| moogstrap | the virus is good to capitalise on simply because Linux is immune. I've seen a few pro-Linux type letters in the Guardian and Independent, published right there in print. The more people speak up, the more the media will have to bend] | Jan 16 23:11 |
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| moogstrap | (not about the worm: they were in response to the police's hacking plans) | Jan 16 23:12 |
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| schestowitz | cracking? | Jan 16 23:13 |
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| moogstrap | whoops. Sorry | Jan 16 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | :-) | Jan 16 23:13 |
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| moogstrap | being a hacker myself, you'd think I would have been immune to that | Jan 16 23:13 |
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| moogstrap | Freudian slap(!) or indoctrination? who knows | Jan 16 23:14 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* | Jan 16 23:14 |
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| schestowitz | I'm seeing the MS blogs | Jan 16 23:14 |
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| schestowitz | How they spin | Jan 16 23:14 |
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| schestowitz | It's not journalism, it's advertising. | Jan 16 23:14 |
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| schestowitz | We in the FOSS world can't advertise for companies because there's no gravity of money or an ecosystem | Jan 16 23:14 |
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| trmanco | I broke reddit | Jan 16 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | Cracker is left to be associated with drugs. | Jan 16 23:15 |
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| trmanco | :( | Jan 16 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | Reddit is nice to BN... we make some FPs there. | Jan 16 23:15 |
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| schestowitz | This month, on average, we get about 225,000 hits/day | Jan 16 23:16 |
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| schestowitz | Not many commens though. | Jan 16 23:16 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/colum... : good for people who boot frequently. | Jan 16 23:17 |
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| moogstrap | Hrrm. I'm installing elive on a separate partition later. A pretty grub might be nice | Jan 16 23:18 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, ELive too is nice | Jan 16 23:21 |
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| schestowitz | Wait, I'll grab a vid | Jan 16 23:21 |
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| moogstrap | worm woes: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix... | Jan 16 23:21 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/upl... | Jan 16 23:22 |
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| schestowitz | Made by [H]omer (from this channel) | Jan 16 23:22 |
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| schestowitz | I'll do a quick post | Jan 16 23:22 |
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| schestowitz | "7 Ways To Ruin A Technological Revolution" + 'stuff' | Jan 16 23:22 |
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| moogstrap | oh, cool | Jan 16 23:22 |
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| moogstrap | The book is cc'd and pretty in-depth. sheesh I sound like a stealth-marketer | Jan 16 23:23 |
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| moogstrap | cool vid | Jan 16 23:24 |
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| moogstrap | http://www.boingboing.net/2008/11/30/ja... *stealth* | Jan 16 23:25 |
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| *schestowitz needs just 1 minutes | Jan 16 23:25 |
| moogstrap | is this new? I don't think I've seen this before http://www.pcworld.com/article/157881/micro... | Jan 16 23:29 |
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| schestowitz | OK done http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01... | Jan 16 23:29 |
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| schestowitz | It seems new | Jan 16 23:29 |
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| schestowitz | Comment just added by "Microsoft Consultant" http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/08/how-t... | Jan 16 23:30 |
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| moogstrap | "everything is pure conjecture" eh? | Jan 16 23:31 |
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| schestowitz | Where from (quote)? | Jan 16 23:32 |
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| schestowitz | Oh, the consultant.. | Jan 16 23:32 |
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| moogstrap | aye | Jan 16 23:32 |
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| schestowitz | We've had some MS fiends apologizing | Jan 16 23:33 |
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| schestowitz | We show them the mirror (which doesn't exist in Remond, unlike Kool-Aid) | Jan 16 23:33 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/1... "I am trying to change the error of my ways. I trust that you will agree that even the most hardened sinner can be redeemed." | Jan 16 23:34 |
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| moogstrap | very repentant | Jan 16 23:35 |
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| MinceR | doesn't seem too repentant | Jan 16 23:36 |
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| schestowitz | De Icaza reads us every day | Jan 16 23:36 |
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| schestowitz | He will hopefully come out of the closet and admit he f*ed up | Jan 16 23:36 |
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| MinceR | he should move away from m$ and live and shed light upon the evils m$ has committed and is still committing | Jan 16 23:36 |
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| moogstrap | The drugs company stuff is pretty scary. | Jan 16 23:37 |
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| schestowitz | Now he wants to make a book out of his crimes | Jan 16 23:37 |
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| moogstrap | hrmm | Jan 16 23:37 |
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| schestowitz | As in, "sorry I did all that, now I want to become famous writing about what I saw in "MSAbu Gharib" | Jan 16 23:37 |
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| moogstrap | hah | Jan 16 23:38 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.prwatch.org/node/8140 (Eli Lilly Finally Pays for Drug Marketing Abuses) | Jan 16 23:38 |
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| schestowitz | I am getting a lot more familiar with the scale of "PR" (brainwashing) | Jan 16 23:39 |
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| schestowitz | There is so much hardwiring but people are taught to accept it as transparent. | Jan 16 23:39 |
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| schestowitz | "Today we'll study 'computers' (Office GUIs)... then we'll study some bible (the chronicles of genocide and crazy miracles)... then we'll sing the anthem to our beloved leaders who give mommy and daddy lots of oil..." | Jan 16 23:40 |
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| schestowitz | "In a blog post, F-Secure security researchers report that the number of machines infected by the Downadup worm has skyrocketed from roughly 2.4 million to over 8.9 million in the last four days alone." < http://www.pcworld.com/article/157877/... > Lost productivity to many | Jan 16 23:41 |
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| schestowitz | "Downadup -- which also goes by the name "Conficker" -- exploits a bug in the Windows Server service used by Windows 2000, XP, Vista, Server 2003 and Server 2008. " Web servers too.. | Jan 16 23:42 |
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| moogstrap | I took ICT when I did my A-Levels. After three months I quit. We had to make an Access programme. That was it. For a higher-learning computing course. I dumped the course and did English Lit instead | Jan 16 23:44 |
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| moogstrap | the server side means that nobody will ever know just how many PCs have been infected | Jan 16 23:45 |
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| schestowitz | Yup | Jan 16 23:46 |
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| schestowitz | It'll also spread more | Jan 16 23:46 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft Morris | Jan 16 23:46 |
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| moogstrap | I'm not a network savvy type. How about networks whose connections share a generic http proxy IP? surely analysts would see just the one address? There are thousands of computers on our network | Jan 16 23:48 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, surely. | Jan 16 23:51 |
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| schestowitz | I can imagine that MS-EDGI has the press flooded at the moment. | Jan 16 23:52 |
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| schestowitz | This prevents people from covering the security menace and layoffs. | Jan 16 23:52 |
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| schestowitz | Conficker Worm Attack Getting Worse: Here's How to Protect Yourself < http://www.pcworld.com/article/157877/w... > Nuthin' 'bout *NIX | Jan 16 23:53 |
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| moogstrap | the antitrust stuff at least will get some fairly broad coverage, at least in the business pages | Jan 16 23:54 |
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| moogstrap | low figures for the UK's infection rate seem surprisingly low | Jan 16 23:55 |
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| moogstrap | the* | Jan 16 23:55 |
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| schestowitz | Reason? | Jan 16 23:56 |
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| schestowitz | FOSS adoption is abysmal here, as well. | Jan 16 23:56 |
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| moogstrap | I don't know | Jan 16 23:56 |
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| schestowitz | Haha. Bless him.. http://blogs.computerworld.com/its_time_... | Jan 16 23:57 |
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| schestowitz | Politicians proosed this in 2007 | Jan 16 23:57 |
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| schestowitz | Like driving licences... for the Internet.. but how would FOSS be treated though? | Jan 16 23:57 |
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| schestowitz | I have s*loads of links about this broad sebate | Jan 16 23:58 |
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| schestowitz | *debate | Jan 16 23:58 |
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| schestowitz | Why I Like USB Flash Drives < http://codingexperiments.com/why-i... > | Jan 16 23:58 |
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