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techrights-botConcern trolls: we try to save the FSF from doing what the FSF stands forMar 24 00:00
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techrights-botList of #mozilla #firefox volunteers is getting shorter each year https://blog.mozilla.org/community/2021/03/22/contributors-to-firefox-87/ maybe it's not exactly helping that Mozilla made strategic mistakes on many frontsMar 24 00:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Contributors To Firefox 87 – about:communityMar 24 00:01
techrights-bot#Firefox 87 Released with #SmartBlock to Less Breakage in Private Browsing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149086#comment-28750Mar 24 00:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Firefox 87 Is Now Available for Download, Here’s What’s New | Tux MachinesMar 24 00:03
techrights-botThe re-appointment or RMS at the FSF seems to have enraged or angered many of the people you'd expect to.... if RMS was truly effective a voice against #proprietarySoftware #Surveillance and #monopoliesMar 24 00:06
techrights-botToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149140 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 00:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 24 00:06
techrights-botWhen in comes to RMS, we the #freesw community will always win the argument because the facts are on our side and there's many of us (the voice of the rich minority has only the illusion of magnitude). Revolt of the oligarchs; Their lies discredit themselves, e.g. http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/the-fake-door-sign/Mar 24 00:08
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techrights-botThe DDOS attacks on #tuxmachines (on and off) have gone on for nearly 2 months now... and sometimes they nearly cause data loss. Nearly, not quite. We've grown more robust over the years with better monitoring and more failsafe mechanisms.Mar 24 00:13
techrights-botBest Linux Laptops That You Can Buy For Home and Office Usage • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149141 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 00:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Linux Laptops That You Can Buy For Home and Office Usage | Tux MachinesMar 24 00:14
techrights-bot#Mesa 21.1 Will Aim To Be Out By Mid-May - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mesa-21.1-Release-Calendar •●• #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | Direct: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=b992b38de6d0f32348d02f96dd9a46197e400be6Mar 24 00:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mesa 21.1 Will Aim To Be Out By Mid-May - PhoronixMar 24 00:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cgit.freedesktop.org | mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library (mirrored from https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa)Mar 24 00:16
techrights-bot#Mesa Could Fork Older "Classic" Display Drivers Out To A Separate "Mesa Classic-LTS" Branch - LinuxReviews ⇨ https://linuxreviews.org/Mesa_Could_Fork_Older_%22Classic%22_Display_Drivers_Out_To_A_Separate_%22Mesa_Classic-LTS%22_Branch •●• #LinuxReviews #GNU #LinuxMar 24 00:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxreviews.org | Mesa Could Fork Older "Classic" Display Drivers Out To A Separate "Mesa Classic-LTS" Branch - LinuxReviewsMar 24 00:16
techrights-botProposal Raised For Dropping Mesa's Classic #OpenGL Drivers From Mainline This Year - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=2021-Retire-Mesa-Classic-Main •●• #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/03/24/#latestMar 24 00:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Proposal Raised For Dropping Mesa's Classic OpenGL Drivers From Mainline This Year - PhoronixMar 24 00:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsMar 24 00:17
techrights-botAlejandro Piñeiro: Improving #v3dv pipeline caching https://blogs.igalia.com/apinheiro/2021/03/improving-v3dv-pipeline-caching/Mar 24 00:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.igalia.com | Improving v3dv pipeline caching – infapi00Mar 24 00:18
techrights-botContributors To #Firefox 87 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149086#comment-28751 #mozilla #wwwMar 24 00:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Firefox 87 Is Now Available for Download, Here’s What’s New | Tux MachinesMar 24 00:21
techrights-botWho tells you to install #EDGE on #gnu #linux (and give Microsoft ROOT access)? #microsoft sites and Microsoft boosters. So you know who stands to benefit from all this latest Googlebombing... #proprietarySoftwareMar 24 00:26
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techrights-bot#Firefox 87 introduces #SmartBlock for Private Browsing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149086#comment-28753 #mozilla misusing the "Smart" buzzword now... remember "AwesomeBar"? Is it now "SmartBar", too?Mar 24 00:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Firefox 87 Is Now Available for Download, Here’s What’s New | Tux MachinesMar 24 00:29
techrights-botLinux Kernel’s Preliminary Rust Code Seeing 64-bit POWER Support • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149143 •●• #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines http://techrights.org/2020/08/31/linux-should-reject-github/Mar 24 00:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel's Preliminary Rust Code Seeing 64-bit POWER Support | Tux MachinesMar 24 00:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Kernel Needs to Reject Rust for the Same Reason Linus Torvalds Rejects GitHub (Where Rust is Hosted and Developed) | TechrightsMar 24 00:29
techrights-bot#GNOME 3.38.5 Released with Support for Handling Monitor Changes During Screencasts • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149142 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 00:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 3.38.5 Released with Support for Handling Monitor Changes During Screencasts | Tux MachinesMar 24 00:30
techrights-botVery, very worrying to see #theRegister putting #microsoftTim in charge of covering #gnu #linux ... his loyalties are darn obviously (and have been for over a decade!) http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/the-register-microsoft-pr/Mar 24 00:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Fall of The Register | TechrightsMar 24 00:31
techrights-botVery, very worrying to see #theRegister putting #microsoftTim in charge of covering #gnu #linux ... his loyalties are darn obvious (and have been for over a decade!) http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/the-register-microsoft-pr/Mar 24 00:32
techrights-botNew #Debian Developers and Maintainers (January and February 2021) https://bits.debian.org/2021/03/new-developers-2021-02.html better numbers than in some previous months... #gnu #linuxMar 24 00:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bits.debian.org | New Debian Developers and Maintainers (January and February 2021) - Bits from DebianMar 24 00:32
techrights-bot"I've been an active member of the #Fedora Respin SIG for a while now... and here is a Fedora Council meeting where the Fedora Respin SIG is discussed. Enjoy." https://www.montanalinux.org/video-fedora-respin-sig.html#hide-block-bartik-account-menu #ibm #redhatMar 24 00:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Video: Fedora Council Update: Respins SIG | MontanaLinux.orgMar 24 00:33
techrights-bot#ibm #redhat won't make this for #centos https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/using-red-hats-support-tool-command-line-solve-real-world-problemsMar 24 00:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Using Red Hat's support tool at the command line to solve real-world problemsMar 24 00:34
techrights-bot#Ubuntu Figuring Out Whether To #FSCK Its File-Systems At Boot - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-FSCK-Boot-Q •●• #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧Mar 24 00:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu Figuring Out Whether To FSCK Its File-Systems At Boot - PhoronixMar 24 00:35
MinceR"figuring out" -- do windows and mac os do it differently from each other?Mar 24 00:35
techrights-bot#mozilla #proprietarySoftware hug: "If you’d like to join, ping me on Discord or Zulip and I’ll send you the Zoom link." https://planet.mozilla.org:4000/babysteps/blog/2021/03/22/async-vision-doc-writing-sessions/Mar 24 00:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed to connect to 2600:1f1c:471:9d01:124d:7554:732f:352b: Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://planet.mozilla.org:4000/babysteps/blog/2021/03/22/async-vision-doc-writing-sessions/ )Mar 24 00:36
techrights-bot#OSI today: we attack the #FSF to distract from our own profound failings. http://techrights.org/2021/03/21/leaderless-osi/Mar 24 00:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Open Source Initiative (OSI): A Boat Without a Captain | TechrightsMar 24 00:37
techrights-bot#OSI today: we attack the #FSF to distract from our own profound failings. http://techrights.org/2021/03/21/leaderless-osi/Mar 24 00:38
techrights-botGood to see #ibm #redhat backing #eclipse and #java instead of MSVS (proprietary) and .NET, GitHub etc. In this case at least... https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-joins-eclipse-adoptium-working-groupMar 24 00:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Red Hat joins the Eclipse Adoptium Working GroupMar 24 00:40
techrights-bot3 new #Java tools to try in 2021 | ⇨ https://opensource.com/article/21/3/enterprise-java-tools •●• #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #programmingMar 24 00:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3 new Java tools to try in 2021 | Opensource.comMar 24 00:41
techrights-botThe #microsoft Exchange fiasco is NOT over. Trillions of emails out there in the wrong hands, surely to be leveraged for national and industrial #espionage including blackmail. Microsoft: BLAME THE ASIANS!! http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/microsoft-blame-shifting-tactics/Mar 24 00:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Weaponises (and Further Spreads) Racism to Distract From Its Own Incompetence (and ‘Five Eyes’ Collusion for Back Door Access) | TechrightsMar 24 00:43
techrights-bot#Servers rebranded for #oursourcing to #Surveillance giants in an Empire/Network of #espionage https://ubuntu.com//blog/what-is-cloud-nativeMar 24 00:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What is cloud native? | UbuntuMar 24 00:44
techrights-botWhere are the justice warriors when it comes to blasting #linuxfoundation for all the same things they accuse FSF or RMS of? Where are they? #monopolies are their allies...Mar 24 00:45
techrights-botThat time that #Facebook made #Turkey happy https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/03/that-time-that-facebook-made-turkey-happy/ "Turkish government also asked Facebook to block posts from the People’s Protection Units."Mar 24 00:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | That time that Facebook made Turkey happy | Stop at Zona-MMar 24 00:47
techrights-botMore than 10.000 customized ISO image created by #FAIme ⇨ https://blog.fai-project.org/posts/faime-10000/ •●• #faiproject | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/03/24/#latestMar 24 00:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.fai-project.org | More than 10.000 customized ISO image created by FAImeMar 24 00:48
techrights-botSANS: we are soooo secure... that you need to run our #proprietarySoftware #javascript just to access our site!! https://www.sans.org/security-awareness-training/blog/insights-6th-annual-sans-security-awareness-report-managing-humanMar 24 00:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sans.org | NO TITLEMar 24 00:50
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techrights-botSimon Steinbeiß/ #Xfce : Post 4.16 fatigue and what’s next • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149144 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 00:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Simon Steinbeiß/Xfce: Post 4.16 fatigue and what’s next | Tux MachinesMar 24 00:54
techrights-botTackling #patentTrolls with some bogus #swpats or #fakepatents https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/3/23/2500-for-prior-art-on-mcom-ip similar name to the likely biggest #patentTroll in #germany (IPCom)Mar 24 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | $2,500 for prior art on mCom IP — Unified PatentsMar 24 00:56
techrights-botBook ads disguised as 'reviews'? The same old #marketing ploy? Either way, #copyright maximalism is a subject that merits criticism and needs to be tackled. http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/book-review-cambridge-handbook-of.htmlMar 24 00:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Book review: The Cambridge Handbook of Copyright Limitations and Exceptions - The IPKatMar 24 00:57
techrights-botGiven the nature of the #internet and esp. the #www I'm surprised so many people still write in book form. Many reasons why it's not an effective and efficient means of information passage/delivery, unless one sells #drm or dead trees for a living...Mar 24 00:59
techrights-bot#rustlang release notes outsourced to #microsoft #proprietarySoftware ... just like the meeting minutes and pretty much everything else. Microsoft is now in their Board. Rust is NOT what it may seem. https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2021/03/23/1.51.0-prerelease.htmlMar 24 01:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.rust-lang.org | 1.51.0 pre-release testing | Inside Rust BlogMar 24 01:00
techrights-botI used to think #rustlang was just temporarily and unwittingly stuck in #microsoft #proprietarySoftware until I was contacted by people who were censored by them for being critical of Microsoft http://techrights.org/2020/06/18/rusty-censorship/Mar 24 01:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Beware Mozilla and Rust, They’re Not Friends of Free Software or Even of Free Speech | TechrightsMar 24 01:02
techrights-botHow many wives of cops are murdered each year (by the spouse)? https://danielpocock.com/where-does-violence-against-women-originate/Mar 24 01:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-danielpocock.com | Where does violence against women originate?Mar 24 01:03
techrights-botDownload #Manjaro Linux 21 Ornara with GNOME, Xfce, and #KDE Plasma now! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148984#comment-28754 #gnu #linuxMar 24 01:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 21.0 (rc1) Ornara released! | Tux MachinesMar 24 01:05
techrights-botFounders of the OSI defend RMS, but OSI does not. That's how you know #OSI had a coup and it's now run by people who front for #Monopolies that need #openwashing for their #proprietarySoftware cages.Mar 24 01:10
techrights-bot#RichardStallman Announcing His Return To The FSF’s Board Of Directors http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149083#comment-28755 #billgates and #microsoft sponsored 'journalism' already lies about him again: http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/still-libeling-rms/Mar 24 01:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Good News! Richard Stallman is Back at Free Software Foundation | Tux MachinesMar 24 01:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Connected (and Funded) Sites Still Distort What Happened and What Richard Stallman Actually Said | TechrightsMar 24 01:12
techrights-bot#WinEnterprises and #Chipsee Take on #RaspberryPi CM4 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149145 •●• #GNU #LinuxMar 24 01:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Win Enterprises and Chipsee Take on Raspberry Pi CM4 | Tux MachinesMar 24 01:12
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techrights-botMade in Thailand #CorgiDude RISC-V AI board aims to teach machine learning ⇨ https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/03/23/made-in-thailand-corgidude-risc-v-ai-board-aims-to-teach-machine-learning/ •●• #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftwareMar 24 01:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Made in Thailand CorgiDude RISC-V AI board aims to teach machine learningMar 24 01:16
techrights-bot#RichardStallman Is Finally Back In The #FSF http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149083#comment-28757Mar 24 01:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Good News! Richard Stallman is Back at Free Software Foundation | Tux MachinesMar 24 01:21
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techrights-bot#techrights featured in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3DvU1rSNVgMar 24 01:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Richard Stallman Is Finally Back In The FSF - YouTubeMar 24 01:24
techrights-bot#microsoft booster JON BRODKIN having a SECOND go trying to remove RMS and destroy the FSF. Showing who's (at least partly) in charge of this. http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/still-libeling-rms/Mar 24 01:24
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techrights-botWelcome SmartBlock: Script Surrogates for the masses! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149086#comment-28758 #mozilla #firefoxMar 24 01:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Firefox 87 Is Now Available for Download, Here’s What’s New | Tux MachinesMar 24 01:27
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techrights-bot#Games : Half-Life, Forgotten Fields, Derelict Void, and Wine 5.0.x • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149146 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #GamingMar 24 01:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Half-Life, Forgotten Fields, Derelict Void, and Wine 5.0.x | Tux MachinesMar 24 01:37
techrights-botOh. Wow. Same people who tried to CANCEL Torvalds also try to remove RMS now. Says soooo much to me. I mean, the people who set up the petition and all. Live and learn: http://techrights.org/2020/09/03/linus-debconf-linusgate/Mar 24 01:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ‘Linusgate’ Leaked: Over 250 Messages About Code of Conduct Complaints Against Linus Torvalds | TechrightsMar 24 01:38
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techrights-botIf you work for a #proprietarySoftware company and set up an anti-RMS petition in a proprietary trap of #microsoft ... maybe your petition is already somewhat self-defeating. We know YOU DO NOT SUPPORT #freesw ! It's an enemy to you. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149083#comment-28760Mar 24 01:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Good News! Richard Stallman is Back at Free Software Foundation | Tux MachinesMar 24 01:41
techrights-botRename #linuxfoundation ... the anti-Software Freedom Foundation. We hijack #freesw and outsource it to #microsoft #proprietarySoftware #monopolyMar 24 01:42
techrights-botNow they're putting #Surveillance inside your food!!!!!! https://www.iottechtrends.com/heatbox-portable-wireless-smart-self-heating-lunchbox/Mar 24 01:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iottechtrends.com | Heatbox: A Portable, Wireless, Smart, Self-Heating Lunchbox - IoT Tech TrendsMar 24 01:44
techrights-botDon't let racist #ibm lecture #fsf on tolerance http://techrights.org/2020/06/06/hypocritical-ibm-red-hat/Mar 24 01:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM (Red Hat) Lectured FSF That It Needed More Diversity, But Was It Looking at the Mirror? IBM and Red Hat Are Even Less Diverse. | TechrightsMar 24 01:45
techrights-bot"TL:DR; lost half my mail (150,000 messages, ~6GB) last night. Cause uncertain, but possibly a combination of a dead CMOS battery, systemd OnCalendar=daily, a (locking?) bug in syncmaildir, and generally, a system too exotic and complicated." https://anarc.at/blog/2021-03-22-email-crash/Mar 24 01:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anarc.at | Major email crash with syncmaildir - anarcatMar 24 01:48
techrights-botToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149147 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 01:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 24 01:49
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schestowitzMinceR: nopeMar 24 01:50
MinceRthen i don't see how it's difficult for n00buntu people to decide :>Mar 24 01:51
MinceRor rather, what to command the debian people to doMar 24 01:51
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techrights-botBrodie Robertson: #RichardStallman Is Finally Back In The FSF • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/brodie-robertson-on-rms/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/23/brodie-robertson-on-rms/Mar 24 01:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Brodie Robertson: Richard Stallman Is Finally Back In The FSF | TechrightsMar 24 01:56
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techrights-bot#microsoft propaganda site 6 hours ago: "Microsoft showed some Linux love" by compiling malware for it... to urge people to let Microsoft remotely control #gnu #linux boxes using repos and keys! Who are those people kidding? Only themselves. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EDGIMar 24 01:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EDGI - TechrightsMar 24 01:57
schestowitzMinceR: haMar 24 01:58
techrights-botWhen #microsoft boosters speak about "Linux" and "love" they're like people staring at the menu at a restaurant. "WHAT SHOULD I EAT TODAY?"Mar 24 01:59
techrights-bot#Univention 5.0-0-rc0 is out, based on #debian #gnu #linux and coming from #germany to help businessesMar 24 02:01
techrights-bot#SMEServer 10.0-rc1 has also just come out. http://www.smeserver.org/ it's based on #fedora of #centosMar 24 02:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.contribs.org | SME ServerMar 24 02:01
techrights-botBeware #monopolies and imperialistic back doors disguised as "manners" http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/Mar 24 02:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | TechrightsMar 24 02:03
techrights-bot#Xfce 4.18 Planning Begins With An Eye On #Wayland Application Support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149144#comment-28762Mar 24 02:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Simon Steinbeiß/Xfce: Post 4.16 fatigue and what’s next | Tux MachinesMar 24 02:07
techrights-bot#Graphics : #Mesa , #V3DV , and #ROCm • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149148 •●• #TuxMachinesMar 24 02:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: Mesa, V3DV, and ROCm | Tux MachinesMar 24 02:08
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jamesxv7/status/1374538368910909441Mar 24 02:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jamesxv7: @gcollazo https://t.co/d4zNCi8VzM Pica y se extiendeMar 24 02:10
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techrights-botOld: Balancing liberties, #privacy , and accessibility https://ariadacapo.net/blog/2020-04-05-balancing-liberties-privacy-and-accessibility/Mar 24 02:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Balancing liberties, privacy, and accessibility | ariadacapo.netMar 24 02:12
techrights-botRemind-Ino is an alarm clock for everything - Arduino Blog ⇨ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/03/23/remind-ino-is-an-alarm-clock-for-everything/ •●• #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #HackingMar 24 02:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Remind-Ino is an alarm clock for everything - Arduino BlogMar 24 02:13
DaemonFC[m]Garrett tried PMing me that RMS supports child porn and thinks it should be legal, and then linked to a "political note" where RMS says making and possessing it should be illegal.Mar 24 02:14
techrights-botOf course #microsoft -funded media now amplifies attempts to cancel RMS while 100% ignoring ALL voices in favour of RMS. Not even hiding their agenda (and sponsors' agenda) anymore. http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/still-libeling-rms/Mar 24 02:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Connected (and Funded) Sites Still Distort What Happened and What Richard Stallman Actually Said | TechrightsMar 24 02:14
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: he did the same to meMar 24 02:15
schestowitzhe's a trollMar 24 02:15
schestowitzand he uses loaded questionsMar 24 02:15
schestowitzignore the trollMar 24 02:15
schestowitz[06:27] <mjg59> schestowitz: You've written at length about one of Bill Gates's employees being arrested for posessing child pornography. You're aware that RMS believes that, while manufacturing such pictures should be illegal, possession should be legal. Do you agree with him?Mar 24 02:15
schestowitz[07:26] <schestowitz> did you stop beating  up your wife, mjg59?Mar 24 02:15
DaemonFC[m]The case was where a person depicted a drawing, not an actual image.Mar 24 02:16
schestowitznever mind the questionMar 24 02:16
schestowitzit's an entrapment for trollingMar 24 02:16
DaemonFC[m]Then you leave that up to prosecutors and they'll try to make the case that anything "might" be that.Mar 24 02:16
DaemonFC[m]Therefore, crime.Mar 24 02:17
schestowitzthis loser is trying to elevate his ego or please his "MASTERS" by canceling voices for freeswMar 24 02:17
DaemonFC[m]It just gives them something easy to pad their conviction rates going into an election.Mar 24 02:17
schestowitzanyway, ignoreMar 24 02:17
schestowitzback on topic nowMar 24 02:17
schestowitzWe have some EPO stuff to publushMar 24 02:18
schestowitzturns out, political interest growsMar 24 02:18
schestowitzit's a major blunderMar 24 02:18
schestowitzthe media pretends nothing is happeningMar 24 02:18
schestowitza lot of it got bribed by EOIMar 24 02:18
schestowitz*EPOMar 24 02:18
DaemonFC[m]Garrett has done plenty to trap people on operating systems that scan your entire disk and report the contents to Microsoft, regardless of what it is.Mar 24 02:18
schestowitzthe goal is to get us to talk about hard topicsMar 24 02:19
schestowitzso he can quote us out of contextMar 24 02:19
schestowitzignoreMar 24 02:19
schestowitzmoving on..Mar 24 02:19
DaemonFC[m]So what's the point of allowing him to be here?Mar 24 02:20
DaemonFC[m]He's sending me unsolicited PMs about stuff I don't even want to think about.Mar 24 02:20
DaemonFC[m]I just added him to my ignore list.Mar 24 02:21
techrights-botIn Planet Debian right now there's one person who wants to cancel the whole FSF. Makes you wonder about who #debian associates with... http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149083#comment-28763Mar 24 02:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Good News! Richard Stallman is Back at Free Software Foundation | Tux MachinesMar 24 02:21
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: it's a trollMar 24 02:22
schestowitzthis is what trolls specialise inMar 24 02:22
techrights-botThe #google troll is now pestering and sending unsolicited trap questions to #techrighrs people. Shame on Google and #redhat for giving salaries to losers and trolls who attack our #security and attack #freesw http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/Mar 24 02:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | TechrightsMar 24 02:24
schestowitz^Mar 24 02:24
schestowitzAnybody else here contacted privately by the mjg59 troll? Let me know...Mar 24 02:25
schestowitzWe might even do an article about itMar 24 02:25
techrights-botAs it turns out, the people obsessed with child porn are actually those trying to cancel RMSMar 24 02:26
techrights-botThe community of #freesw is under a major attack by #microsoft -funded media and people who work for #monopolies putting #backdoors in everything. It's no ordinary attack and we know what their demands are.Mar 24 02:28
techrights-botA new video about the return of #RMS to the #FSF • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/brodie-robertson-on-rms/ •●• #Techrights #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/23/brodie-robertson-on-rms/Mar 24 02:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Brodie Robertson: Richard Stallman Is Finally Back In The FSF | TechrightsMar 24 02:29
techrights-botDon't lecture people on ethics and morality if you bomb people for a living. http://techrights.org/2020/06/24/freedom-of-speech/Mar 24 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Let’s Ban Bombings, Not Words (Corporations Taking Away People’s Freedom of Speech So They Can Bomb ‘in Peace’) | TechrightsMar 24 02:30
techrights-bot"For those who still haven’t heard: tmt is now fully-supported in Packit, Fedora Continuous Integration (CI) system, and the RHEL CI system." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/tmt-hints-basic-test/Mar 24 02:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | tmt hints: create a basic test – Fedora Community BlogMar 24 02:32
techrights-botJulita Inca Chiroque: #GNOMELatam 2021 https://lleksah.wordpress.com/2021/03/23/gnome-latam-2021/ #freesw #latam #gnu #linuxMar 24 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lleksah.wordpress.com | GNOME Latam 2021 | Sólo para Mí!Mar 24 02:33
techrights-bot" #Silverblue is an operating system for your desktop built on Fedora Linux." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/rebase-fedora-silverblue-34-beta/ #gnu #linux #fedora #ibmMar 24 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | How to rebase to Fedora Silverblue 34 Beta – Fedora Community BlogMar 24 02:34
techrights-botWhen it comes to #programming ... well, #microsoft #windows is always behind https://devclass.com/2021/03/23/crystal-language-hits-v1-0-milestone/Mar 24 02:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Static energy: Crystal language hits v1.0 milestone, ARM and Windows support still needs polishing • DEVCLASSMar 24 02:35
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techrights-botIn March, we see #Firefox 87 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149086#comment-28764 by Chris Mills of #mozillaMar 24 02:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Firefox 87 Is Now Available for Download, Here’s What’s New | Tux MachinesMar 24 02:48
techrights-bot#IBM "is sponsoring the very first NearForm Presents event on Mar. 31, hosted by IBM. This online event will feature four talks on interesting topics related to Node.js Core, along with exciting workshop options." https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2021/03/23/whats-coming-for-node-js-developers-at-nearform-event/Mar 24 02:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | What's coming for Node.js developers at NearForm event - Red Hat DeveloperMar 24 02:49
techrights-botAffordable high-temperature #3Dprinters at home | ⇨ https://opensource.com/article/21/3/desktop-3d-printer •●• #3dprinting #RedHat #IBMMar 24 02:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Affordable high-temperature 3D printers at home | Opensource.comMar 24 02:56
techrights-botSome people will only ever like the FSF like #microsoft "loves" #linux ... dead or under their total control.Mar 24 02:57
techrights-bot#Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149149 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 02:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 24 02:58
techrights-bot#Security Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149150 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 02:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 24 02:58
techrights-botIf you see a firm referring to itself as "open" watch out as nowadays it typically just means #proprietarySoftware or #clownComputing (you're their digital slave), but these companies thinly disguise all these risks with #openwashing (code samples in proprietary ShitHub or "we leverage some OSS")Mar 24 03:01
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techrights-botA bunch of clowns at #idg propping up #clowncomputing and downplaying the endless issues (while naming just some of them) https://www.infoworld.com/article/3612230/7-common-cloud-problems-and-how-to-fix-them.html media in the pockets of surveillance companies bamboozles people into this...Mar 24 03:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-7 common cloud problems and how to fix them | InfoWorldMar 24 03:03
techrights-bot"WHY BUY A SERVER WHEN YOU HAVE AWS?" Say people who might say, "why have a bathroom at home when you can use public toilets instead?"Mar 24 03:04
techrights-botSo many lessons learned from #boycottnovell days about corporate tactics for silencing their critics and dissent in general. They'll NEVER stop trying. Do not become their "useful idiots" (they have PR firms to do this for them) http://techrights.org/2019/04/14/ronald-hovsepian-vs-techrights/Mar 24 03:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ‘Poor’ (Multi-Millionaire) Novell CEO, Who Colluded With Steve Ballmer Against GNU/Linux, is Trying to Censor Techrights | TechrightsMar 24 03:07
techrights-botBased on what I see in the media, the anti-RMS becomes as close as it gets to the "MICROSOFT-ENDORSED" action.Mar 24 03:10
techrights-bot#Canonical / #Ubuntu Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149152 #freeswMar 24 03:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical/Ubuntu Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 24 03:16
techrights-bot#Debian Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149151 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 03:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 24 03:16
techrights-bot"Breton says EU does not need Sputnik vaccine. Breton is a criminal" -Anon mail to me https://fr.euronews.com/2021/03/22/spoutnik-v-nous-ne-forcons-personne-insiste-vladimir-poutine-qui-denonce-le-lobbying-de-l- see our series about his history of crime: http://techrights.org/2020/03/11/looking-back-at-breton-or-breton-series-epilogue/Mar 24 03:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fr.euronews.com | Spoutnik V : "Nous ne forçons personne", insiste Vladimir Poutine qui dénonce le lobbying de l'UE | EuronewsMar 24 03:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Understanding Thierry Breton: Looking Back | TechrightsMar 24 03:20
CrystalMathschestowitz: the pro-RMS camp and the anti-RMS camp had a little argument today on #fsfMar 24 03:20
CrystalMaththe IRC channel, not a hashtagMar 24 03:21
schestowitzI see...Mar 24 03:23
schestowitzwell, IRC has become too vulnerable to trollMar 24 03:23
schestowitzwhen I say "troll" I have a definition in mindMar 24 03:23
schestowitzI observe this SUPER-closely this week. You can find updates in IRC/Diaspora/other and a more moderate tone in Techrights posts. Gemini/IPFS have IRC logs too.Mar 24 03:23
schestowitzIt's not pretty, but RMS will get through this. We need to be AS LOUD as those trolls. They try to pester us in IRC now. They = Garrett mostly. Mar 24 03:24
schestowitzWhy did the FSF give an award to him? And Deb (OSI)? And Kuhn? They attack the FSF's founder. Kuhn has just been cited in Planet Debian: https://spwhitton.name//blog/entry/rmsopenletter/Mar 24 03:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-spwhitton.name | rmsopenletterMar 24 03:24
schestowitzFor the first time in a year today... I check email several times per dayMar 24 03:24
schestowitzCrystalMath: we're winning the argumentMar 24 03:24
schestowitzthere are FEW of themMar 24 03:24
schestowitzthey're just loud and backed by malicious media companiesMar 24 03:24
schestowitzlike Condy NasryMar 24 03:24
schestowitzArs, Reddit etc.Mar 24 03:24
schestowitzthat media digs its own graveMar 24 03:25
schestowitzsome will refrain from writing about itMar 24 03:25
schestowitzfor fear of much-deserved backlashMar 24 03:25
CrystalMathwell they do have some signatures on their open letterMar 24 03:25
schestowitzand then it'll get all calm againMar 24 03:25
schestowitzand RMS will get back to workMar 24 03:25
CrystalMaththeir letter now targets the entire FSF board, btw, not stallmanMar 24 03:25
schestowitzCrystalMath: tell me when they get a million sigsMar 24 03:26
CrystalMaththey're asking for the entire board to resignMar 24 03:26
CrystalMathlol noMar 24 03:26
schestowitzyes, they sound irrationalMar 24 03:26
schestowitzthey basically say, kill the FSFMar 24 03:26
CrystalMathall they have is debian soydev idiotsMar 24 03:26
schestowitzlike Sarah Mei didMar 24 03:26
CrystalMaththat's why i am EMBARASSED to have ever used debianMar 24 03:26
schestowitzwhile taking salaries from binary blog oligarchsMar 24 03:26
schestowitz*blobMar 24 03:26
CrystalMathor ever endorsed it, yuckMar 24 03:26
schestowitzI saw just one Debian person, maybe 2Mar 24 03:27
schestowitzIan and the aboveMar 24 03:27
CrystalMathdebian is the most disgusting project alive, a hotbed of these fascist creeps who want impoliteness to be punished with capital punishmentMar 24 03:27
schestowitz(spwhitton)Mar 24 03:27
CrystalMathStefano Zacchieroli was thereMar 24 03:27
CrystalMathhold on, let me link the listMar 24 03:27
schestowitzzini probably tooMar 24 03:27
schestowitzstefano is OSIMar 24 03:27
schestowitzmore so then DebianMar 24 03:27
schestowitzOSI is deadMar 24 03:27
schestowitznot it's like a suicide vest-strapped fodderMar 24 03:28
CrystalMathhttps://rms-open-letter.github.io/Mar 24 03:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rms-open-letter.github.ioMar 24 03:28
schestowitzone last scream and explosionMar 24 03:28
schestowitz*nowMar 24 03:28
schestowitzwhy shithub?Mar 24 03:28
CrystalMathmjg59 is there, disgusting and disappointingMar 24 03:28
schestowitzit's controlled by MicrosoftMar 24 03:28
schestowitzthey also spy on itMar 24 03:28
CrystalMathi really thought he makes some senseMar 24 03:28
schestowitzmjg59 is trolling usMar 24 03:28
schestowitzby PMing peopleMar 24 03:28
schestowitzand baitingMar 24 03:28
schestowitzhe's a subculture loserMar 24 03:28
schestowitzignore himMar 24 03:29
schestowitzif someone here was privately contacted by this creep, let me knowMar 24 03:29
schestowitzin person or in publicMar 24 03:29
CrystalMathi see mostly OSI, debian, and GNOME people in the listMar 24 03:29
schestowitzmakes senseMar 24 03:29
schestowitzconsider who funds them LOLMar 24 03:29
schestowitzI could give a listingMar 24 03:29
CrystalMathLuis Villa that retard is thereMar 24 03:29
schestowitzand then you consider all their targetsMar 24 03:30
CrystalMathi hate that guy's gutsMar 24 03:30
schestowitzwho to "cancel"Mar 24 03:30
schestowitzLuis is a friend of Mac AsayMar 24 03:30
schestowitzthe boot licker of Bezos npwMar 24 03:30
schestowitzthey swin neat the sharksMar 24 03:30
CrystalMathi talked to him, he's a real piece of garbageMar 24 03:30
schestowitz*swimMar 24 03:30
schestowitzthey can taste the bloodMar 24 03:30
schestowitzor the moneyMar 24 03:30
schestowitzlike mjg59Mar 24 03:30
schestowitzswimming near EMpireMar 24 03:30
schestowitzcompanies that undermine securityMar 24 03:31
schestowitzTHAT'S where the money isMar 24 03:31
schestowitzmilitary budget and alMar 24 03:31
CrystalMathi also see some pirate party members thereMar 24 03:31
schestowitzthere's barely any money in FSMar 24 03:31
schestowitzesp. not in advocacy of itMar 24 03:31
CrystalMathmost likely Bjarni Runnarson as wellMar 24 03:31
schestowitzwhich pirate party?Mar 24 03:31
schestowitzdon't forgetMar 24 03:31
CrystalMathswedishMar 24 03:31
schestowitzPirate Party was created by MICROSOFTMar 24 03:31
schestowitzemployeeMar 24 03:31
schestowitzRickMar 24 03:31
CrystalMathBjarni is icelandicMar 24 03:31
schestowitzHe came from MicrosoftMar 24 03:31
schestowitzStillMar 24 03:31
CrystalMathbut i know Bjarni is this kind of moronMar 24 03:31
schestowitzPirate Party Sweden (original) has Microsoft rootsMar 24 03:32
CrystalMathhe's just not on the list for some reasonMar 24 03:32
schestowitzthere are many other pirate parties nowMar 24 03:32
schestowitzthe one in germany is OKMar 24 03:32
CrystalMathi'm fairly sure he would sign it, because he's exactly *this* brand of moronMar 24 03:32
schestowitzPatrick Breyer for exampleMar 24 03:32
schestowitzthey promote gnu/linuxMar 24 03:32
schestowitzLOL Molly de Blanc Mar 24 03:32
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/01/12/gnome-foundation-rms/Mar 24 03:33
schestowitzWhat does she care?Mar 24 03:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNOME Foundation is Still Participating in the Attack on Richard Stallman | TechrightsMar 24 03:33
schestowitzNever wrote a single line of codeMar 24 03:33
schestowitzand cannotMar 24 03:33
schestowitzbased on her Microsoft profileMar 24 03:33
schestowitzThose are few sigsMar 24 03:33
schestowitza couple hundreds out of millions of FreeSW devsMar 24 03:33
schestowitzThe 0.01%Mar 24 03:33
schestowitzon a Microsoft platformMar 24 03:33
CrystalMathIan "N-word-sayer" JacksonMar 24 03:34
CrystalMathis also on the listMar 24 03:34
techrights-bot"We are the 0.01%!! We want the FSF to self-disband" -- #Microsoft #GitHub petition. The 99.91% of us who won't sign it are OK with RMS in the FSF.Mar 24 03:35
schestowitzoopsMar 24 03:36
schestowitzshould have said 99.99%Mar 24 03:36
schestowitznever mindMar 24 03:36
schestowitzmaybe 0.08 abstains :-)Mar 24 03:36
schestowitz"not sure, need more info"Mar 24 03:36
techrights-bot"Yes, women can be greybeards too. Really. Doesn’t require actual facial hair." https://medium.com/geekculture/twenty-years-of-geek-girl-ing-c4626d8483c9Mar 24 03:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Twenty Years of Geek Girl-ing. We’ve come a long way, baby. | by Sadie Morghan | Geek Culture | Mar, 2021 | MediumMar 24 03:37
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techrights-bot"Who wouldn’t want a live preview for writing their great content? If you happen to be running Rails with Hotwire, it’s surprisingly easy with a small Stimulus controller." https://nts.strzibny.name/rails-stimulus-live-preview/Mar 24 03:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nts.strzibny.name | Live previews with Rails and Stimulus 2Mar 24 03:38
techrights-ipfs ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▂▃▆▃▅▂▄▄▂▄▅▃▅▁▂▄▅▄▅▃▅▄▅▅▃▆▃▄▁▂▃▂▅▅▂▁ avg(k/sec) 29.58 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▂▁▂█▂█▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▂█▄▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 61.38▕ swarm size (avg): 153.21  ⟲Mar 24 03:39
CrystalMathschestowitz: oh, and some signatures are literally from GoogleMar 24 03:39
CrystalMathand MozillaMar 24 03:39
techrights-botMost of the people out there view developers in terms of their work, their code, their history (professional), not gender or race. Those obsessing over the latter aspects are less interested in the doing and more in other aspects.Mar 24 03:39
schestowitzdibona?Mar 24 03:40
schestowitzCrystalMath: yes, that's to be expectedMar 24 03:40
CrystalMathyesMar 24 03:40
schestowitzconsidering what "talent" they look forMar 24 03:40
schestowitzand who they ejectMar 24 03:40
schestowitzMozilla already got rid of people who might support RMSMar 24 03:40
schestowitzthere's an influx of non-technical puffMar 24 03:40
CrystalMathalso the X.org foundationMar 24 03:41
CrystalMaththat's kinda sad to hear, i had *some* respect for those peopleMar 24 03:41
schestowitzbut how many of them?Mar 24 03:41
schestowitzthere are many thereMar 24 03:41
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/09/18/keith-packard-on-rms/Mar 24 03:41
CrystalMaththe entire X.org foundation has one signatureMar 24 03:41
schestowitzthey never had it easy with RMSMar 24 03:41
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schestowitzinstead, let's focus on who is NOT on thereMar 24 03:42
CrystalMaththis is why i should switch to XFree86Mar 24 03:42
CrystalMathcancel X.orgMar 24 03:42
schestowitzCrystalMath: well, that might be one personMar 24 03:42
schestowitzGNOME Foundation misrepresented some GNOME devs re RMSMar 24 03:42
schestowitzand some had the courage to speak out against thatMar 24 03:42
CrystalMathX.org Foundation Board of Directors (Lyude Paul, Eric Anholt, Mark Filion, Keith Packard, Daniel Vetter, Harry Wentland, Samuel Iglesias Gonsálvez)Mar 24 03:42
CrystalMaththis is the entryMar 24 03:42
techrights-botKeith Packard: #RichardStallman Was Right (About the GPL) http://techrights.org/2020/09/18/keith-packard-on-rms/ #GPL #copyleft #freesw #freedomMar 24 03:43
CrystalMathi wonder if they were not put in there by their willMar 24 03:43
schestowitzmaybe notMar 24 03:43
schestowitzat BEST, a small committeMar 24 03:43
schestowitzat BEST, a small committee passing a few emails back and forthMar 24 03:44
schestowitzthey didn't ask all membersMar 24 03:44
schestowitzand dissent would be frowned uponMar 24 03:44
schestowitzhow many of them are IBM staff?Mar 24 03:44
schestowitzor Intel?Mar 24 03:44
schestowitzX doesn't exist in a vacuumMar 24 03:44
schestowitzthese people have employers Mar 24 03:44
schestowitzCrystalMath: given this  http://techrights.org/2020/06/05/guix-petition/ it might be useful to map all those who get their salary from IBMMar 24 03:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guix Petition Demographic Data, by Figosdev | TechrightsMar 24 03:45
schestowitzIt takes some work, but when you can show a third are paid by the same company it's kind of significantMar 24 03:45
CrystalMaththere's some EFF people but they noted that they're signing as individuals not on behalf of the EFFMar 24 03:48
schestowitzlol EFFMar 24 03:49
schestowitzwhat are they these days/Mar 24 03:49
schestowitzgiving awards to microsoft and bagging google moneyMar 24 03:49
schestowitzwhich EFF workers?Mar 24 03:49
schestowitzI can guess...Mar 24 03:49
schestowitzNazerMar 24 03:49
schestowitznow Mozilla, former EFFMar 24 03:50
schestowitzJilian York there?Mar 24 03:50
schestowitzmany of them don't  care about freeSWMar 24 03:50
schestowitzthey use MacsMar 24 03:50
schestowitzand Mac stuff... proprietaryMar 24 03:50
schestowitzlike meat eaters signing a petition in some vegan thing.... or PETAMar 24 03:50
CrystalMathno YorkMar 24 03:51
techrights-botHow to Beat Coder's Block – Five Tips to Help You Stay Productive https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/how-to-beat-coders-block-and-stay-productive/ #programmingMar 24 03:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freecodecamp.org | How to Beat Coder's Block – Five Tips to Help You Stay ProductiveMar 24 03:51
techrights-botA lot of people correctly recognise that the attack on RMS is an attack on #freesw itself (they'd coyly deny that) and a threat to any opinionated programmer, who is proactively cautioned by the mob... to play along or be "canceled"Mar 24 03:53
techrights-bot#cancelRMS = Revolt of the #monopolies (and those salaried by them) + some "useful idiots" who get carried away by distortion of the truth and look for a scapegoat http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/the-fake-door-sign/Mar 24 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Fake ‘Door Sign’ Used to Frame Richard Stallman and Misrepresent Him One Year Ago (the Media Never Corrected This Slanderous Allegation) | TechrightsMar 24 03:55
techrights-botPrevious anti-RMS petitions were ONE THIRD #IBM staff http://techrights.org/2020/06/05/guix-petition/Mar 24 03:55
techrights-bot#surveillance #monopolies are currently (at least partly) funded by the US military. HUGE budget, bankrupts everybody. Given the state of their nation, those subsidies (looting/theft) might not last for much longer...Mar 24 03:57
techrights-botSubject Verb Object notation; declarative Perl without the framework http://blogs.perl.org/users/jesse_shy/2021/03/subject-verb-object-notation-declarative-perl-without-the-framework.html #perl #programmingMar 24 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Subject Verb Object notation; declarative Perl without the framework | Jesse Shy [blogs.perl.org]Mar 24 03:58
techrights-botWe already have "asset trackers" for humans too; they're called 'phones' and many people charge them every day; :D https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/03/23/mictrack-mt700-cat-m1-nb-iot-gps-tracker-long-battery-life/Mar 24 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | MicTrack MT700 Cat M1 & NB-IoT GPS tracker promises up to 8 years of battery lifeMar 24 04:00
techrights-bot4 months ago/Just-Released Footage of Dr. Richard Stallman (RMS): Open Source People “Treated Me Like Shit” • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2020/11/12/2001-rms-opens-up/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/11/12/2001-rms-opens-up/Mar 24 04:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Just-Released Footage of Dr. Richard Stallman (RMS): Open Source People “Treated Me Like Shit” | TechrightsMar 24 04:02
schestowitzhttps://blogs.oracle.com/linux/linux-on-oracle-cloud-infrastructure%3A-managing-security-and-access-to-your-cloud-made-easy-with-short-training-videosMar 24 04:03
schestowitzclownMar 24 04:03
techrights-bot"Apparently there are people talking about self-hosting their git repositories. There are multiple variations on this as seen elsewhere. There remains the option of using Gitea as well. No, I am not thinking of abandoning my git repos on Launchpad at this time." http://coyote.works//taking-stock-in-late-march-2021.htmlMar 24 04:05
techrights-bot#oracle 1990s: we do DBs. Oracle 2020-21: we do clown. https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/linux-on-oracle-cloud-infrastructure%3A-managing-security-and-access-to-your-cloud-made-easy-with-short-training-videos http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/OracleMar 24 04:05
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techrights-botThe so-called 'petition' against RMS (a #microsoft -hosted joke signed by a tiny fraction of the #freesw world and some people who use MACS! / Windows) isn't quite a petition but a clear-cut case of #BLACKMAIL against the FSF. Don't negotiate with bullies (thinly disguised as "manners").Mar 24 04:07
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CrystalMathit's just the fashlistMar 24 04:08
CrystalMaththat's how i'll call itMar 24 04:08
schestowitzfash?Mar 24 04:08
schestowitzas in fac?Mar 24 04:08
CrystalMathfascistMar 24 04:08
CrystalMathyeahMar 24 04:08
schestowitzwrong labelMar 24 04:08
schestowitzthey're not fascistMar 24 04:08
CrystalMaththey kinda are IMOMar 24 04:09
schestowitzthat reminds me of words like feminaziMar 24 04:09
schestowitzor words that compare women to fascistMar 24 04:09
schestowitzit's the wrong labelMar 24 04:09
CrystalMathbkuhn is a SWERF, i called him out on it todayMar 24 04:09
CrystalMathhe put me on ignore :PMar 24 04:09
schestowitzMaybe follows this logic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asZ1R-Xylj4Mar 24 04:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-George Carlin Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be Manners (archived mirrored vid) - YouTubeMar 24 04:09
CrystalMathyesMar 24 04:09
CrystalMathi mean it's absolutely true, but to me personally, everyone who believes in strictly following ANY rule set is a fascistMar 24 04:10
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/12/04/sfc-not-about-freedom/Mar 24 04:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC) is Not About Freedom | TechrightsMar 24 04:10
CrystalMathlike Michael Downey thereMar 24 04:10
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/02/08/fosdem-ibm-gag/Mar 24 04:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | FOSDEM and Free Speech: Will It Blend? | TechrightsMar 24 04:10
CrystalMathin the fashlistMar 24 04:10
CrystalMathhe signed it because:Mar 24 04:10
CrystalMathyou won't believe itMar 24 04:10
schestowitzSFC is dead to meMar 24 04:10
MinceRwhat if the rule set consists of the rule "do not believe in strictly follow any rule set"? :>Mar 24 04:10
CrystalMathRMS told him a dirty joke at a libreplanet onceMar 24 04:10
schestowitzno idea why FSF gave kuhn an awardMar 24 04:11
MinceRs/low/lowing/Mar 24 04:11
schestowitzI've asked themMar 24 04:11
schestowitzwill share the replyMar 24 04:11
CrystalMathMinceR: then you should only strictly follow that specific rule and be even weaker on the othersMar 24 04:11
schestowitzRMS does tell jokesMar 24 04:11
schestowitzI do tooMar 24 04:11
schestowitzeveryone doesMar 24 04:11
CrystalMathyes but this joke had something about women in itMar 24 04:11
CrystalMathidk, Downey wouldn't repeat itMar 24 04:11
CrystalMathit must have been something really horrible, like a joke about blondes being dumb maybeMar 24 04:11
CrystalMathbecause everyone knows the world will explode if you tell a joke like thatMar 24 04:12
schestowitzNot a joke: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/sex-trolling.pngMar 24 04:12
MinceRmaybe it would be preferable if the world explodedMar 24 04:12
schestowitzCrystalMath: they did that to OlivaMar 24 04:12
schestowitzsome joke he made about blondes like decades ago as a studentMar 24 04:12
schestowitzthey use old dirt for leverageMar 24 04:12
schestowitzand blackmailMar 24 04:12
schestowitzto intimidate peopleMar 24 04:13
schestowitzresign or we'll show what you saidMar 24 04:13
schestowitzNSA does thatMar 24 04:13
schestowitzaldo FBI with conintelproMar 24 04:13
CrystalMathOliva explained to me why he resignedMar 24 04:13
CrystalMathi talked to him about it yesterdayMar 24 04:13
schestowitzwhat did he say?Mar 24 04:13
CrystalMaththe rest of the board and voting members did not like that he publicly called out the FSF on things, things that were already decided (RMS coming back) being pushed fasterMar 24 04:14
techrights-bot#Richard #Stallman video from 2001 was released earlier this week; in it, Stallman explains what the Open Source ‘movement’ did to him just a few years earlier (and then there’s some more stuff like his speech about DMCA and less related stuff in between because it’s raw and uncut) http://techrights.org/2020/11/12/2001-rms-opens-up/Mar 24 04:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Just-Released Footage of Dr. Richard Stallman (RMS): Open Source People “Treated Me Like Shit” | TechrightsMar 24 04:14
CrystalMaththey felt like he was threatening them, so they asked him to leave the boardMar 24 04:14
CrystalMathhe did leave the board, but he remains a voting memberMar 24 04:14
CrystalMaththe decision to reinstate stallman eventually is in fact VERY old, it's from 2019Mar 24 04:14
techrights-bot#Techrights Bulletin for Tuesday, March 23, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintextMar 24 04:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin ArchivesMar 24 04:14
techrights-bot#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharingMar 24 04:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS IndexMar 24 04:14
CrystalMathbut Oliva still felt like calling out the FSF for letting it happen publiclyMar 24 04:15
CrystalMathhe himself is sorry for thisMar 24 04:15
CrystalMathbut he's happy being a voting member, keeping check on the FSF but without publically representing itMar 24 04:15
CrystalMathhe also still leads FSFLAMar 24 04:16
schestowitzyeah, OKMar 24 04:16
schestowitzinteresting that part about decision re him returningMar 24 04:16
schestowitzthough I knew there was waiting for "the right time"Mar 24 04:16
schestowitzto speak outMar 24 04:16
schestowitzthen returnMar 24 04:16
CrystalMathyes, and i told you some even more inside stuff, about whose idea it wasMar 24 04:16
schestowitznow the mask falls off and we still see who had beefMar 24 04:17
CrystalMathin a PMMar 24 04:17
schestowitzwas there an exchange somewhere?Mar 24 04:17
schestowitzlike FSF gives kuhn awards?Mar 24 04:17
CrystalMathon the FSF internal mailing list, lotsMar 24 04:17
schestowitzthen the following day RMS comes back?Mar 24 04:17
schestowitzSFC has not yet made a statement on thisMar 24 04:17
schestowitzmaybe they agreed not to "pull on OSI" this time?Mar 24 04:18
CrystalMathi don't really have access to the internal mailing list like this, i get information from several people here and thereMar 24 04:18
CrystalMathas far as i know, Kuhn got the award normallyMar 24 04:18
CrystalMathit is decided by the staff anywayMar 24 04:18
CrystalMathi antagonized Bradley Kuhn today without knowing if he changed his mind on RMSMar 24 04:19
CrystalMathbut he's still bad because of what he posted there in that blog postMar 24 04:20
CrystalMathand just... being a traitor like thatMar 24 04:20
CrystalMathidk if he changed againMar 24 04:20
CrystalMathbut at this point i don't care, if he did his opinions are worthless as he changes them constantlyMar 24 04:21
schestowitzi'd keep my distanceMar 24 04:21
schestowitzhe keeps bad companyMar 24 04:21
schestowitzand raises money from dubious placesMar 24 04:21
CrystalMathhe used to be RMS's best friend, and talked about being his successorMar 24 04:22
CrystalMathhe was the most pro-RMS person alive, and thenMar 24 04:22
CrystalMathhe wrote a blog post saying that RMS is a sexually immoral person, linking to one time when RMS said it's not wrong for teenagers to have sex with other teenagersMar 24 04:22
techrights-botBringing #FIDO2 or #FIDO2 #snakeoil support... https://blogs.gnome.org/dueno/bringing-fido2-device-support-to-sandboxes/ fake security: http://techrights.org/2020/10/15/fido-false-sense-of-security/Mar 24 04:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org | Bringing FIDO2 device support to sandboxes – Daiki UenoMar 24 04:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A FIDO/FIDO2 False Sense of Security for Premium Prices | TechrightsMar 24 04:23
CrystalMathi believe RMS was 100% right in this, i don't know why anyone would see that as wrong, unless they're a conservative christian fundamentalistMar 24 04:23
CrystalMathso i asked bkuhn how long has he been into conservative christian fundamentalismMar 24 04:23
schestowitzlet's not even discuss thatMar 24 04:23
schestowitzas there's a troll lurking it to pick up dirtMar 24 04:24
CrystalMathit's not dirtMar 24 04:24
schestowitzit is to trollsMar 24 04:24
schestowitzand they can take it out of contextMar 24 04:24
schestowitz#sexrights is there ----------------------?Mar 24 04:24
CrystalMathi wrote it as unambigously as i canMar 24 04:24
schestowitz---------------------->Mar 24 04:24
schestowitzthere's also that debate about teens sextingMar 24 04:24
schestowitzthat's more tech-relatedMar 24 04:25
CrystalMaththat's actually what it wasMar 24 04:25
schestowitzor the impact of tech on things like personal lifeMar 24 04:25
CrystalMathin the article RMS linked toMar 24 04:25
CrystalMathit was about sexting actuallyMar 24 04:25
schestowitzoh, I see...Mar 24 04:25
CrystalMathRMS just did expand upon it and he said there's nothing wrong if teens have sex with each other (NOT WITH ADULTS)Mar 24 04:26
CrystalMathalso, another thing bkuhn called RMS out, was a blog post where RMS said sex workers should existMar 24 04:27
schestowitzanyway...Mar 24 04:27
schestowitzlet's not discuss this hereMar 24 04:27
schestowitzas that would likely be taken out of context no matter whatMar 24 04:27
schestowitzby trolls who never kissed a girl until they were 20+Mar 24 04:28
CrystalMathso jokingly i called bkuhn a conservative christianMar 24 04:28
CrystalMathbut in reality, he's a SWERFMar 24 04:28
CrystalMaththen he put me on ignoreMar 24 04:28
CrystalMaththat's the end of that storyMar 24 04:28
schestowitzMichael pushes Intel ads again https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-7nm-New-US-Fabs-Intel-OnMar 24 04:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Provides Update On 7nm, New US Fabs, "Intel On" Event - PhoronixMar 24 04:29
schestowitzlots of this latelyMar 24 04:29
schestowitzno linux connectionMar 24 04:29
schestowitzjust Intel "puff"Mar 24 04:29
schestowitzdid they send him many boards?Mar 24 04:29
schestowitzCrystalMath: try calling him "rabbi" and see what happensMar 24 04:29
schestowitzwith child marriages and all it's bound to get "funny"...Mar 24 04:30
techrights-bot#Plan9 #Copyright Transferred To Foundation, MIT Licensed Code Released - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Plan-9-2021 •●• #Phoronix #🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/03/24/#latestMar 24 04:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Plan 9 Copyright Transferred To Foundation, MIT Licensed Code Released - PhoronixMar 24 04:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsMar 24 04:31
techrights-botThis thing called Shells dot com, basically #clownComputing trap, has been infecting many "Linux" news sites lately. Paid-for puff pieces and organic 'articles'... that aren't. Part of this trend: http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/news-as-spam/Mar 24 04:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Different Types of Spammy ‘Articles’ and ‘Reviews’ Which Have Killed ‘Professional Journalism’ (Nowadays Mostly SPAM) | TechrightsMar 24 04:33
techrights-bot#Patent maximalists that now pay blogs for #propaganda ( #PatentlyO for example) carry on promoting #fakepatents by seeking to abolish boards that review and invalidate these https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/03/appellants-raise-due-process-issues-in-new-vision-gaming-and-development-v-sg-gaming.htmlMar 24 04:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Appellants Raise Due Process Issues in New Vision Gaming and Development v. SG GamingMar 24 04:36
techrights-bot#patent extremeists compare tribunal that review #patents to "DEATH squads" http://techrights.org/2018/06/17/patents-and-lawsuits-vs-innovation/Mar 24 04:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Affairs of the USPTO Have Turned Into Somewhat of a Battle Against the Courts, Which Are Simply Applying the Law to Invalidate US Patents | TechrightsMar 24 04:37
techrights-botAnd speaking of which, sociopaths released several times from prison talking about "Death Panels" http://techrights.org/2010/09/14/tough-questions-teachers/ #billgates #BackToPrisonMar 24 04:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | PR Disaster: Discussion With Bill Gates Turns to “Death Panels” | TechrightsMar 24 04:38
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techrights-botLinux Kernel Patches Sent Out For A More Powerful Virtual #M68k Machine - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-Virtual-M68k-Machine •●• #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/03/24/#latestMar 24 04:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Kernel Patches Sent Out For A More Powerful Virtual M68k Machine - PhoronixMar 24 04:42
techrights-bot#microsoft connected company: "Plus our reaction to RMS's return to the FSF, some big project updates, picks, and more!" https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/144562/back-in-the-freedom-dimension-linux-unplugged-398/ see http://techrights.org/2020/05/29/jupiter-broadcasting/Mar 24 04:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Back in the Freedom Dimension | LINUX Unplugged 398 | Jupiter BroadcastingMar 24 04:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Connected CloudGuru Doesn’t Care About GNU/Linux and Now It’s Gradually Killing the BSD/Linux-Centric Jupiter Broadcasting (Bought by Linux Academy) | TechrightsMar 24 04:45
techrights-bot#Pockit modular Linux computer takes hot plugging magnetic blocks • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149153 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 04:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pockit modular Linux computer takes hot plugging magnetic blocks | Tux MachinesMar 24 04:46
techrights-botNow it's a long, lonnnng longtime #microsoft propagandist #paulThurrott trying to fool #gnu #linux users into giving Microsoft ROOT on their systems... to just run some proprietary copycat of Chrome. Don't fall for it!Mar 24 04:47
techrights-bot#clownComputing ITSELF is the problem and the fix is getting rid of Clown Computing altogether. It just means #outsourcing ... typically to #surveillance giants in service of the US Army. Stop doing that... you pay a LOT! With your loss of freedom. https://www.arnnet.com.au/article/687086/5-common-cloud-problems-how-fix-them/?fp=2&fpid=1Mar 24 04:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.arnnet.com.au | 5 common cloud problems and how to fix them - ARNMar 24 04:50
techrights-botHEY HI HEY HI HEY HI https://sfconservancy.org/news/2021/mar/23/karen-lailec-2021/Mar 24 04:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sfconservancy.org | Conservancy's Executive Director to Keynote AI Law & Ethics Conference - Software Freedom ConservancyMar 24 04:51
techrights-bot#GNOME Desktop/GTK: Work by Matthias Clasen, 2FA and GNOME Latam 2021 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149154 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 04:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Desktop/GTK: Work by Matthias Clasen, 2FA and GNOME Latam 2021 | Tux MachinesMar 24 04:56
CrystalMathhttps://rms-support-letter.github.io/Mar 24 04:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rms-support-letter.github.io | An open letter in support of Richard Matthew Stallman being reinstated by the Free Software FoundationMar 24 04:59
techrights-botLinks 24/3/2021: #ManjaroLinux 21.0 and New #Firefox Release • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/24/manjaro-linux-21-0/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/24/manjaro-linux-21-0/Mar 24 05:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 24/3/2021: Manjaro Linux 21.0 and New Firefox Release | TechrightsMar 24 05:12
schestowitz"To sign, please submit a pull request."Mar 24 05:14
schestowitzHAHAHAHAHAHMar 24 05:14
schestowitzopen an account at microsoftMar 24 05:14
schestowitzro support rmsMar 24 05:14
schestowitzI can imagine what rms might say!Mar 24 05:14
schestowitzpetitions can be stupid at timesMar 24 05:15
schestowitzthey're not electionMar 24 05:15
schestowitzbetter to argue in wordsMar 24 05:15
schestowitznumbers and sigs are just some random numbersMar 24 05:15
schestowitznot exhaustive surveysMar 24 05:16
schestowitzand media owned by the rich can game which ones we seeMar 24 05:16
techrights-bot#Openwashing and Traps • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149155 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 05:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Openwashing and Traps | Tux MachinesMar 24 05:16
techrights-bot#Programming Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149156 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 05:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 24 05:16
techrights-botDoing a petition in support of #RMS on #Microsoft #GutHub is like organising an animal rights event at a slaughterhouseMar 24 05:17
techrights-botToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149157 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 05:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 24 05:17
techrights-botToday’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149158 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 24 05:18
techrights-botAudiocasts/Shows: #mintCast , #PCLinuxOS 2021.02, Linux in the Ham Shack, LINUX Unplugged • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149159 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: mintCast, PCLinuxOS 2021.02, Linux in the Ham Shack, LINUX Unplugged | Tux MachinesMar 24 05:18
techrights-botThis week of next week #techrights will exceed 30,000 blog posts.Mar 24 05:20
schestowitzour rms-back piece: 85k viewsMar 24 05:20
schestowitzgnMar 24 05:20
CrystalMathschestowitz: i signed it with the github account designed specifically for use with ReactOS, which is sadly on githubMar 24 05:20
schestowitz:/Mar 24 05:21
CrystalMathi have not really been working much on reactos since it moved to githubMar 24 05:21
schestowitzurging staunch supporter of rms to sign up with microsoft seems self-harmingMar 24 05:21
CrystalMath99.9% of my commits are from the SVN eraMar 24 05:21
schestowitzSVN was OKMar 24 05:21
schestowitzbut... shiny MicrosoftMar 24 05:21
schestowitzmonopolyMar 24 05:21
schestowitzcentralisedMar 24 05:21
schestowitzyayMar 24 05:22
schestowitzSVN over SFMar 24 05:22
CrystalMathwhat's worse is that, they really only asked us if reactos should move to gitMar 24 05:22
CrystalMathand when we voted yesMar 24 05:22
schestowitzget "likes"Mar 24 05:22
CrystalMaththey moved to git.... hubMar 24 05:22
schestowitz"must be some good code!Mar 24 05:22
schestowitz7 "likes"Mar 24 05:22
CrystalMathbut github was not microsoft at the timeMar 24 05:23
schestowitzso microsoft  bought and now owns reactosMar 24 05:23
schestowitzwithout even payingMar 24 05:23
CrystalMathlol, no, not really :PMar 24 05:23
CrystalMaththey still seem to hate us somehowMar 24 05:23
schestowitzgnMar 24 05:23
CrystalMathbut with more some kind of passive contemptMar 24 05:23
CrystalMathgoodnightMar 24 05:23
techrights-ipfs ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▂▃▅█▂▄▁▅▃▃▁▂▅▄▅▆▅▂▃▃▁▃▄▃█▃▅▁▄▁▂▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 20.13 ▕  IPFS upstream: █▁▂█▁▂▁█▁▁▂█▁▁▂▂▂▂▁▃▁▂█▁▁▂█▂▂█▁▁█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 100.03▕ swarm size (avg): 153.43  ⟲Mar 24 05:39
techrights-ipfs ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▁▂▅▁▆▅▃▆▁▄▅▅▄▅▁▅▁▂▁▂▅▆▂▁▃▂▁▃▅▃▂▅▆▇▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 18.06 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▃▁▁█▂▁▁▃█▁▂▁▁▁▂▁█▃▁▁▁▁▄▁▂▁▂█▄▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 85.33▕ swarm size (avg): 153.54  ⟲Mar 24 06:39
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techrights-ipfs ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▅▇▅▄▃▄▆▅▆▁█▃▅▄▅▅▃▃▃▆▄▃▅▆▂▄▃▄▅▂▄▁ avg(k/sec) 32.13 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▂█▂▂▂▂█▁▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▁█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 61.51▕ swarm size (avg): 153.68  ⟲Mar 24 07:39
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techrights-ipfs ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▂▁▄▄▅▁▆▇▅▂▃▅▂▂▄▁▃▄▁▂▄▄▄▁▄▅▂▄▅▄▅▂▁ avg(k/sec) 21.91 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▇▃▁▂▁▂▁█▁▁▁█▂█▁▂█▁▁▁█▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 52.85▕ swarm size (avg): 153.85  ⟲Mar 24 08:39
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #Rebased ☞ SSH Keygen: a 2021 update https://blog.rebased.pl/2021/03/23/ssh-keygen-2021.htmlMar 24 09:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.rebased.pl | SSH Keygen: a 2021 updateMar 24 09:06
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #Klara ☞ History of #ZFS: Part 1: The Birth of ZFS and How it All Started https://klarasystems.com/articles/history-of-zfs-part-1-the-birth-of-zfs/Mar 24 09:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-klarasystems.com | History of ZFS – Part 1: The Birth of ZFS | Klara Inc.Mar 24 09:06
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #Fly ☞ The 5-hour #CDN https://fly.io/blog/the-5-hour-content-delivery-network/Mar 24 09:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fly.io | The 5-hour CDN · FlyMar 24 09:06
techrights-bot#PinePhone Beta Limited Edition Is Now Available for Pre-Order with Manjaro Linux • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149160 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 09:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PinePhone Beta Limited Edition Is Now Available for Pre-Order with Manjaro Linux | Tux MachinesMar 24 09:07
techrights-bot#IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/24/irc-log-230321/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/24/irc-log-230321/Mar 24 09:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 | TechrightsMar 24 09:08
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #Purism #OpenHardware ☞ The S in IOT is for Security https://puri.sm/posts/the-s-in-iot-is-for-security/Mar 24 09:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | The S in IOT is for Security – PurismMar 24 09:10
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #JPieper #OpenHardware ☞ Development of next-gen power_dist (part 1) https://jpieper.com/2021/03/22/development-of-next-gen-power_dist-part-1/Mar 24 09:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jpieper.com | Development of next-gen power_dist (part 1) | A Modicum of FunMar 24 09:10
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #KenShirriff #OpenHardware ☞ Two dies in one package: Teardown of a vintage ROM with double the storage http://www.righto.com/2021/03/two-dies-in-one-package-teardown-of.htmlMar 24 09:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.righto.com | Two dies in one package: Teardown of a vintage ROM with double the storageMar 24 09:10
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #DanLangille ☞ mosquitto: upgrade from 1.x to 2.x requires configuration changes to keep working https://dan.langille.org/2021/03/22/mosquitto-upgrade-from-1-x-to-2-x-requires-configuration-changes-to-keep-working/Mar 24 09:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dan.langille.org | mosquitto: upgrade from 1.x to 2.x requires configuration changes to keep working – Dan Langille's Other DiaryMar 24 09:12
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #uniToronto #Programming ☞ Portability has ongoing costs for code that's changing https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/programming/PortabilityOngoingCostsMar 24 09:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/programming/PortabilityOngoingCostsMar 24 09:12
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #IanHenry #Programming ☞ Getting Drunk with Datalog https://ianthehenry.com/posts/getting-drunk-with-datalog/Mar 24 09:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ianthehenry.com | Getting Drunk with DatalogMar 24 09:13
techrights-bot● [Old] ● #StephenDiehl #Programming ☞ Exotic Programming Ideas: Part 4 (Datalog) https://www.stephendiehl.com/posts/exotic04.htmlMar 24 09:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stephendiehl.com | Exotic Programming Ideas: Part 4 (Datalog)Mar 24 09:13
techrights-bot"Richard M. Stallman" is back to the FSF page https://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board/Mar 24 09:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Staff and Board — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free softwareMar 24 09:16
techrights-bot#famouscriminal buying the world with money stolen from the world https://futurism.com/bill-gates-farmland « il y a anguille sous roche » #billgatesMar 24 09:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-futurism.com | Bill Gates Attempts to Explain Why He Bought More Farmland Than Anyone Else in AmericaMar 24 09:16
techrights-bot5 days downtime = #microsoft360 https://portswigger.net/daily-swig/microsoft-blames-crypto-key-rotation-snafu-for-365-outage people ought to get FIRED for choosing Microsoft (some do) https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/SNAFU#EnglishMar 24 09:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-portswigger.net | Microsoft blames crypto key rotation snafu for 365 outage | The Daily SwigMar 24 09:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | SNAFU - WiktionaryMar 24 09:18
techrights-botAnother hostile reaction to RMS returning (it's now official) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149083#comment-28766 this page tracks some responses excluding #socialcontrolmedia (which is just a worthless noise machine with falsehoods aplenty)Mar 24 09:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Good News! Richard Stallman is Back at Free Software Foundation | Tux MachinesMar 24 09:23
techrights-bot"It seems that rich native email clients as Free Software are a little bit losing ground. A contributing factor from my perspective is the complexity that is needed (and partly needed because propriety vendors make it more complicated) to make an attractive client for many plattforms." https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2021-March/064996.htmlMar 24 09:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnupg.org | We shall value email usageMar 24 09:25
techrights-botGlad to see Dr. Moody commenting on #dweb https://joindiaspora.com/posts/20353136 #ipfs is nice and we also move to #geminiProtocol albeit it tackles a different problemMar 24 09:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody@joindiaspora.com: A New Portal for the Decentralized Web and its Guiding Principles - https://blog.archive.org/2021/03/22/a-new-portal-for-the-decentralized-web-and-its-guiding-principles/ "a portal, a welcoming entry point for people to learn and share strategies, analysis, and tools around how to build a decentralized Web."Mar 24 09:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> blog.archive.org | A New Portal for the Decentralized Web and its Guiding Principles - Internet Archive BlogsMar 24 09:26
techrights-bot#KSA should be labeled a country run by terrorists and treated accordingly. Not every government cooks journalists (literally) and classifies atheists as terrorists. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/23/top-saudi-official-issued-death-threat-against-uns-khashoggi-investigatorMar 24 09:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Top Saudi official issued death threat against UN's Khashoggi investigator | Jamal Khashoggi | The GuardianMar 24 09:27
techrights-botThankfully it has gotten a lot easier to boycott Saudi #oil (or oil in general). Stop funding terrorism. https://mastodon.social/@glynmoody/105939242893131500Mar 24 09:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | Glyn Moody: "Top Saudi official issued death threat against UN…" - MastodonMar 24 09:28
techrights-botWherever #microsoft goes the dead bodies follow https://www.computerworld.com/article/3612191/does-microsoft-share-blame-for-the-solarwinds-hack.html see, e.g. http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/Mar 24 09:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Does Microsoft share blame for the SolarWinds hack? | ComputerworldMar 24 09:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of the Series About Windows Inside Hospitals (Causing Hospitals to Become Disaster Zones) | TechrightsMar 24 09:31
techrights-botLegacy of #nra in a nation that mostly bombs nations in order to advance the interests of its corporations (oligarchs) https://www.salon.com/2021/03/23/the-nra-way-of-life-is-ruining-our-nation/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/CablegateMar 24 09:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The NRA way of life is ruining our nation | Salon.comMar 24 09:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Cablegate - TechrightsMar 24 09:32
techrights-botBad computer systems do kill https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=da&u=https://www.version2.dk/blog/it-havarikommission-nu-1092334 see, e.g. http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/Mar 24 09:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google TranslateMar 24 09:33
techrights-bot#Krita 4.4.3 Released with Stability and Performance Improvements, Bug Fixes • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149161 #kde #gnu #freeswMar 24 09:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Krita 4.4.3 Released with Stability and Performance Improvements, Bug Fixes | Tux MachinesMar 24 09:34
techrights-botThe list of the anti-RMS petition is a list of people who do #microsoft #github i.e. #ProprietarySoftware #monopolyMar 24 09:35
techrights-botThe way to read the anti-RMS petition: Dear FSF, Please cease to exist! Anger-ily yours, #microsoft #github #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly booster/user (everyone who does commits there boosts the monopoly)Mar 24 09:38
Techrights-sechttps://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/richard-stallman-is-finally-back-in-the:b                                                Mar 24 09:39
Techrights-sechttps://odysee.com/@Lunduke:e/DefenseofStallman:9Mar 24 09:39
Techrights-secwhy is RiseUp supporting such bile and vitriol?  They used to have                                                             Mar 24 09:39
Techrights-seccomlpliance requirements to maintain an account but that seems to have                                                         Mar 24 09:39
Techrights-secbeen corrupted.Mar 24 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Richard Stallman Is Finally Back In The FSFMar 24 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | In Defense of Richard StallmanMar 24 09:39
techrights-botIn Defense of #RichardStallman https://odysee.com/@Lunduke:e/DefenseofStallman:9 #fsf #gnuMar 24 09:41
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techrights-bot● NEWS ● #InternetArchive ☞ A New Portal for the #DecentralizedWeb and its Guiding Principles https://blog.archive.org/2021/03/22/a-new-portal-for-the-decentralized-web-and-its-guiding-principles/Mar 24 09:44
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #PortSwigger #Hardware ☞ Spectre attacks against websites still a serious threat, #Google warns https://portswigger.net/daily-swig/spectre-attacks-against-websites-still-a-serious-threat-google-warnsMar 24 09:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-portswigger.net | Spectre attacks against websites still a serious threat, Google warns | The Daily SwigMar 24 09:44
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #ITWire #ProprietarySoftware ☞ Yet another Windows #ransomware strain appears on the scene https://itwire.com/security/yet-another-windows-ransomware-strain-appears-on-the-scene.htmlMar 24 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Yet another Windows ransomware strain appears on the sceneMar 24 09:46
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #SiliconAngle #ProprietarySoftware ☞ #Oil and #gas company Shell suffers Accellion-related data breach https://siliconangle.com/2021/03/22/oil-gas-company-shell-suffers-accellion-related-data-breach/Mar 24 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oil and gas company Shell suffers Accellion-related data breach - SiliconANGLEMar 24 09:46
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #PortSwigger #ProprietarySoftware ☞ #Mimecast confirms [attackers] behind #SolarWinds supply chain attack accessed limited amount of customer information https://portswigger.net/daily-swig/mimecast-confirms-hackers-behind-solarwinds-supply-chain-attack-accessed-limited-amount-of-customer-informationMar 24 09:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-portswigger.net | Mimecast confirms hackers behind SolarWinds supply chain attack accessed limited amount of customer information | The Daily SwigMar 24 09:47
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #FranzDill #ProprietarySoftware #Microsoft #Windows TCO ☞ Continued Worsening of #Ransomware https://eponymouspickle.blogspot.com/2021/03/continued-worsening-of-ransomware.htmlMar 24 09:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eponymouspickle.blogspot.com | The Eponymous Pickle: Continued Worsening of RansomwareMar 24 09:48
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #ACM #ProprietarySoftware #Microsoft #Windows TCO ☞ The Worsening State of #Ransomware https://cacm.acm.org/news/251337-the-worsening-state-of-ransomware/fulltextMar 24 09:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cacm.acm.org | The Worsening State of Ransomware | News | Communications of the ACMMar 24 09:48
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #Mixterla #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ Shamir's Password Store https://mitxela.com/projects/shamirs_password_storeMar 24 09:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Shamir's Password Store - mitxela.comMar 24 09:53
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #CitizenLab #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #TikTok and Douyin Explained https://citizenlab.ca/2021/03/tiktok-and-douyin-explained/Mar 24 09:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-citizenlab.ca | TikTok and Douyin Explained - The Citizen LabMar 24 09:53
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #CitizenLab #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #TikTok vs Douyin: A Security and Privacy Analysis https://citizenlab.ca/2021/03/tiktok-vs-douyin-security-privacy-analysis/Mar 24 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-citizenlab.ca | TikTok vs Douyin: A Security and Privacy Analysis - The Citizen LabMar 24 09:54
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #BuzzFeed #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #Facebook Is Building An #Instagram For Kids Under The Age Of 13 https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/facebook-instagram-for-children-under-13Mar 24 09:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.buzzfeednews.com | Facebook Is Building An Instagram For KidsMar 24 09:54
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #Gizmodo #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ Zuck Slowly Shrinks and Transforms Into a Corncob Ahead of Apple's Looming Privacy Updates https://gizmodo.com/zuck-slowly-shrinks-and-transforms-into-a-corn-cob-ahea-1846510281?scrolla=5eb6d68b7fedc32c19ef33b4Mar 24 09:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Zuckerberg: Facebook May Be in 'Stronger Position' After Apple Privacy UpdateMar 24 09:55
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #CNBC #Surveillance ☞ #Apple says its big #privacy change is coming in 'early spring' as conflict with #Facebook heats up https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/28/apples-b.htmlMar 24 09:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Apple: IDFA iOS 14 change coming early springMar 24 09:56
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #CNET #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #Facebook CEO Mark #Zuckerberg criticizes Apple on Clubhouse https://www.cnet.com/news/facebook-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-criticizes-apple-on-clubhouse/Mar 24 09:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg criticizes Apple on Clubhouse - CNETMar 24 09:57
techrights-botOne way to support the #FSF is to speak about #softwarefreedom and move past the anti- #RMS mob. Move on, RMS is here to stay.Mar 24 10:05
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techrights-bot● NEWS ● #KrebsOnSecurity #security ☞ Phish Leads to Breach at Calif. State Controller https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/03/phish-leads-to-breach-at-calif-state-controller/Mar 24 10:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | Phish Leads to Breach at Calif. State Controller — Krebs on SecurityMar 24 10:11
techrights-botEven people who used to bash #RichardStallman step in to defend him • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/24/lunduke-rms/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/24/lunduke-rms/Mar 24 10:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Lunduke (ex-Microsoft): In Defense of Richard Stallman | TechrightsMar 24 10:15
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techrights-bot"In the short term, it seems very likely (if not inevitable) that Neurim will attempt to appeal the costs order and we (like many patent litigators in the UK) will be keeping a close eye on any developments in this regard." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/03/24/neurim-and-flynn-v-mylan-who-is-the-real-winner/Mar 24 10:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Neurim and Flynn v Mylan – Who is the real winner? - Kluwer Patent BlogMar 24 10:16
techrights-bot#JUVE became "SPAM" site, posting #marketing #junk in the form of 'articles' https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/people-and-business/french-competitor-acquires-novumip-from-paragon-partners/ it used to be a real site http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/JuveMar 24 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | French competitor acquires NovumIP from Paragon Partners - JUVE PatentMar 24 10:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Juve - TechrightsMar 24 10:18
techrights-botThe good thing about the anti-RMS petition that's hosted by #microsoft is that you get to see/know who's who...Mar 24 10:22
techrights-botPhoronix: Microsoft doesn't love #linux and won't even add support for it https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-Surface-DTX-Linux-513Mar 24 10:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Surface "DTX" Driver Slated For Linux 5.13 - PhoronixMar 24 10:25
techrights-botIronically, the lynch mob that bullied #techrights rendered itself mute, so trolling by that mob is harder to do now. Those who demanded less speech ended up unable to talk.Mar 24 10:26
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ What I Hope Tech CEOs Will Tell Congress: 'We're Not Neutral' https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210322/09521746466/what-i-hope-tech-ceos-will-tell-congress-were-not-neutral.shtmlMar 24 10:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What I Hope Tech CEOs Will Tell Congress: 'We're Not Neutral' | TechdirtMar 24 10:32
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #TruthOut #fb ☞ #Facebook Failed to Prevent Billions of Views of Pages Sharing False Information https://truthout.org/articles/facebook-failed-to-prevent-10-billion-post-views-from-sharers-of-false-info/ abandon #socialcontrolmedia cesspoolMar 24 10:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Facebook Failed to Prevent Billions of Views of Pages Sharing False InformationMar 24 10:34
techrights-bot#Canonical Releases Another #Ubuntu Linux Kernel Security Update to Fix 6 Flaws • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149162 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Releases Another Ubuntu Linux Kernel Security Update to Fix 6 Flaws | Tux MachinesMar 24 10:36
techrights-botOh my God!!! Our local council plans to do voting ONLINE. This is insane. Better not to do voting at all! Have they consulted any professionals on this??? #manchester #uk #crackpot #electionMar 24 10:38
techrights-bot#Election hacking may go undetected https://www.cylumena.com/insights/8-cybersecurity-reasons-online-voting-never-happen/ call off the election, #manchester , don't do it "online" (by post is better)Mar 24 10:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-8 Cybersecurity Reasons Why Online Voting May Never Happen | CyLumenaMar 24 10:40
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techrights-bot"It is crucial for democracy to work every time and we can’t guarantee that with an online system." https://medium.com/digital-diplomacy/security-experts-say-online-voting-is-a-bad-idea-heres-why-1792c9a876b0Mar 24 10:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medium.com | Security Experts Say Online Voting Is a Bad Idea. Here’s Why. | Digital DiplomacyMar 24 10:41
techrights-bot#SimonPhipps you snake... making fun of people with disabilities while signing a letter falsely accusing RMS of that. http://techrights.org/2020/10/11/osi-and-rms/Mar 24 10:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Open Source Initiative Cannot Lecture People on Manners and Tolerance (and Probably Never Could) | TechrightsMar 24 10:44
techrights-botMolly de Blanc: did not write a SINGLE line of code, demands RMS be removed for years. Have we become a world full of parasites? http://techrights.org/2021/01/12/gnome-foundation-rms/Mar 24 10:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNOME Foundation is Still Participating in the Attack on Richard Stallman | TechrightsMar 24 10:45
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techrights-botDo not 'cancel' the people who try to cancel RMS. That would make us as hateful and vicious as they are. Criticise them. That'll do. Let all the foaming at the mouth come from these passive-aggressive bullies...Mar 24 10:48
techrights-botIt's OK to criticise RMS, but lying about his is not OK http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/sjvn-senior-moment/Mar 24 10:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | One Year Later Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols’ Libel Against Richard Stallman Remains Online and Uncorrected at ZDNet | TechrightsMar 24 10:49
techrights-botCanonical Chooses Flutter Linux Mint to Make System Updates a Priority Steam Link Now Available on Linux ElementaryOS 6 Changing Some of the Look and Feel Root Access and Denial of Service Flaws Fo…Mar 24 10:50
techrights-botRichard Stallman (RMS) is often on the receiving end of malicious insults unsupported by any clinical analysis; a proper critical analysis suggests that “Open Source” is inherently dishonest (stealing credit for other people’s work) and moreover intolerant http://techrights.org/2020/10/11/osi-and-rms/Mar 24 10:50
psydroid<TechrightsBot-tr "techrights.org | GNOME Foundatio"> Exclude the parasites by changing the rules of the game such as making free software truly and only about community againMar 24 10:56
schestowitzhere is a rantMar 24 10:58
schestowitznot for social control mediaMar 24 10:58
schestowitzas MinceR is aware, over a decade ago I spent a lot of time on youtubeMar 24 10:58
schestowitzusually listening to videos while working on Daily LinksMar 24 10:58
schestowitzmany channels I liked were atheist channelsMar 24 10:58
schestowitzthe better known ones, some were hilariousMar 24 10:59
schestowitzlinks were shared hereMar 24 10:59
schestowitzthen I noticed somethingMar 24 10:59
schestowitzas did othersMar 24 10:59
schestowitzpeople were infiltrating and hijacking that community in youtubeMar 24 10:59
schestowitzand the atheism advocatesMar 24 10:59
schestowitzthey called it Atheism+Mar 24 10:59
schestowitzor something like thatMar 24 10:59
schestowitzit had nothing to do with itMar 24 10:59
schestowitzit's what years later became known as "social justice warriors"Mar 24 10:59
schestowitzthey were warriors against the things they had infiltratedMar 24 11:00
schestowitzso I now see the same in the FSF and elsewhereMar 24 11:00
schestowitzpeople with ZERO relevant, no experience, NO UNDERSTANDINGMar 24 11:00
schestowitzor barely anyMar 24 11:00
schestowitzand that kills off the communitiesMar 24 11:00
schestowitzthe real communitiesMar 24 11:00
schestowitzas they provoke and disgust key peopleMar 24 11:00
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techrights-botIronically, #ableism is the #thoughtcrime of some people who sign a letter accusing others of the same http://techrights.org/2020/10/11/osi-and-rms/Mar 24 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Open Source Initiative Cannot Lecture People on Manners and Tolerance (and Probably Never Could) | TechrightsMar 24 11:10
techrights-botCancel Canonical? • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/02/15/cancel-canonical/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/02/15/cancel-canonical/ #ubuntuMar 24 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Cancel Canonical? | TechrightsMar 24 11:12
psydroidthat is what I see tooMar 24 11:12
psydroidunfortunately for them I have a thick skin and counter each and every of their arguments, but I wonder if it is always worth going to that troubleMar 24 11:13
psydroidthe first rule of community is not to let your community be infiltrated and killed from the insideMar 24 11:14
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ New Year, Same You: #Twitch Releases Tools To Help Creators Avoid #Copyright Strikes, Can't Properly Police Abuse https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210318/10311146445/new-year-same-you-twitch-releases-tools-to-help-creators-avoid-copyright-strikes-cant-properly-police-abuse.shtmlMar 24 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Year, Same You: Twitch Releases Tools To Help Creators Avoid Copyright Strikes, Can't Properly Police Abuse | TechdirtMar 24 11:15
schestowitzpsydroid: it is not fully worth the troubleMar 24 11:18
schestowitzTR won't be covering it anymoreMar 24 11:18
schestowitzwe move onMar 24 11:18
schestowitzto pragmatic thingsMar 24 11:19
techrights-botBest Free and #freesw Alternatives to Google Calendar • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149163 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 11:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Google Calendar | Tux MachinesMar 24 11:21
psydroidI really despise the Microsoft people the most and they are coming after me, because I am one of the most vocal people about their practicesMar 24 11:25
psydroidBut they serve as a blueprint for IBM and Red Hat people and others too, making me think that something is really wrong with many of those who join these behemothsMar 24 11:25
schestowitzI know what you mean...Mar 24 11:26
schestowitzThey target a whole bunch of us who say the C wordMar 24 11:26
schestowitzcommunityMar 24 11:26
schestowitzand also the f wordMar 24 11:26
schestowitzfreedomMar 24 11:26
schestowitz because they want to eliminate people who point out society is a slave to these monopolistic mobsters (masters)Mar 24 11:27
schestowitzlike the people mjg59 works forMar 24 11:27
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schestowitztrying to compensate for it by adding s f'ing FLAIR to his reddit usernameMar 24 11:27
schestowitz"I make millions by bombing people... but I have a FLAIR in my reddit profile ;-)"Mar 24 11:27
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techrights-botTrolls Want to Remove Not Only Stallman but the Entire FSF Board • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149164 hypocrites http://techrights.org/2020/10/11/osi-and-rms/Mar 24 11:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Source Advocates Want to Remove Not Only Stallman but the Entire FSF Board | Tux MachinesMar 24 11:32
techrights-botThe anti-RMS petition is signed by less than 0.001% of Free software people. "We are the 0.001%!!! We are angry!!" Revolt of the privileged who work for #ProprietarySoftware #monopolies (many of them, not all) Their employers made us digital slaves and then ban wordsMar 24 11:35
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techrights-bot#Fedora Linux 34 Beta Is Now Available For Download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149129#comment-28771 #gnu #linux #ibmMar 24 11:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Announcing the release of Fedora Linux 34 Beta | Tux MachinesMar 24 11:38
techrights-bot#Krita 4.4.3 Released • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149165 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDEMar 24 11:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Krita 4.4.3 Released | Tux MachinesMar 24 11:49
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techrights-bot"As if Nazis had a #monopoly on #eugenics . They mostly copied what the US government had done with #IBM because old Mr. Watson (IBM's founder) was a racist." http://techrights.org/2020/10/11/osi-and-rms/Mar 24 11:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Open Source Initiative Cannot Lecture People on Manners and Tolerance (and Probably Never Could) | TechrightsMar 24 11:58
techrights-bot#OSI is deeply deeply defunct. It's funded by Microsoft and exists for #microsoft now (original co-founders both left, there's no leader anymore, they cannot even run elections). http://techrights.org/2021/03/21/leaderless-osi/Mar 24 12:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Open Source Initiative (OSI): A Boat Without a Captain | TechrightsMar 24 12:00
techrights-bot#texas is killing #patent #law by discrediting the whole patent system in the US. This coverage is sponsored by litigation profiteers. https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/03/tracfone-mandamus-again.htmlMar 24 12:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | TracFone: Mandamus All Over Again | Patently-OMar 24 12:02
techrights-botOnly softball questions for EUIPO (to keep "access") and no difficult questions about #EUIPO #corruption https://www.managingip.com/article/b1r35tsdqry9lj/euipo-appeals-to-have-extra-weight-says-new-boa-chief see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EUIPOMar 24 12:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | EUIPO appeals to have extra weight, says new BoA chief | Managing Intellectual PropertyMar 24 12:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EUIPO - TechrightsMar 24 12:05
techrights-bot#Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149166 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 12:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 24 12:06
techrights-bot#OSI Should Elect a Leader Before Trying to Dethrone Others’ • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/24/osi-should-elect-a-leader/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/24/osi-should-elect-a-leader/Mar 24 12:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | OSI Should Elect a Leader Before Trying to Dethrone Others’ | TechrightsMar 24 12:18
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techrights-bot● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ Senator Mark Warner Doesn't Seem To Understand Even The Very Basic Fundamentals Of #Section230 As He Seeks To Destroy It https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210322/17020246469/senator-mark-warner-doesnt-seem-to-understand-even-very-basic-fundamentals-section-230-as-he-seeks-to-destroy-it.shtmlMar 24 12:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Senator Mark Warner Doesn't Seem To Understand Even The Very Basic Fundamentals Of Section 230 As He Seeks To Destroy It | TechdirtMar 24 12:23
psydroidschestowitz, Arthur_S sent me a bunch of private messages on Friday that I never responded to. I also suspect him to be the same person as Helios2, because one would join when the other leftMar 24 12:25
psydroidtalking about pedophilia and communismMar 24 12:26
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schestowitzyes, same personMar 24 12:33
schestowitzbased on IRC logsMar 24 12:33
schestowitzyou could see the name changesMar 24 12:33
schestowitzbased in the UK somewhereMar 24 12:33
schestowitzbe careful, don't talk to people about off-topic thingsMar 24 12:33
schestowitzthey try to engineer a phony scandal for usMar 24 12:33
schestowitzthe Google Troll contacted DaemonFC[m] to ask about pedo stuffMar 24 12:33
schestowitzthe goal is the extract some tactless and out-of-context remarkMar 24 12:34
schestowitz[06:27] <mjg59> schestowitz: You've written at length about one of Bill Gates's employees being arrested for posessing child pornography. You're aware that RMS believes that, while manufacturing such pictures should be illegal, possession should be legal. Do you agree with him?Mar 24 12:34
schestowitz[07:26] <schestowitz> did you stop beating  up your wife, mjg59?Mar 24 12:34
schestowitzwe are targeted Mar 24 12:34
schestowitzthe anti-RMS GitHub 'petition' is run by these peopleMar 24 12:35
schestowitzfoaming at the mouth looking for targetsMar 24 12:35
schestowitzby their OWN admission, they look to cancel all the so-called "ENABLERS"Mar 24 12:35
schestowitzi.e. everything they do not likeMar 24 12:35
schestowitzthey're  a  mocMar 24 12:35
schestowitzsociopaths and trollsMar 24 12:35
schestowitz*mobMar 24 12:35
schestowitzdisguised as "manners"Mar 24 12:35
psydroidsometimes when they don't get their way and they don't have any arguments left, they recommend you to go and see a "psychiatrist"Mar 24 12:37
techrights-ipfs ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▁▃▄▁▂▄▄▄▁▄▅▂▄▅▄▅▂▅▄▄▅▅▃▂▂▂▆▅▁▃▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 15.63 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▂█▁▂█▁▁▁█▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▁▁▂▃▁▂▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▂█▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 43.01▕ swarm size (avg): 153.92  ⟲Mar 24 12:39
techrights-botCAUTION TO THE REAL #freeSW community (not corporate charlatans working for #monopolies like #microsoft and Google): a bunch of nasty corporate trolls are reportedly targeting key people with loaded questions about paedophilia, looking to engineer phony scandals by out-of-context quotes on hard subjects. Watch out, put them on IGNORE. http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/Mar 24 12:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | TechrightsMar 24 12:40
schestowitzpsydroid: thanks for the headsupMar 24 12:40
schestowitzlast night I asked out here if more of us where privately targetedMar 24 12:40
schestowitzso the answer seems to be "yes"Mar 24 12:40
schestowitzand I wonder who that new person from London area isMar 24 12:41
schestowitzcould be some spin/PR firm for all I know...Mar 24 12:41
schestowitzlet me check..Mar 24 12:41
schestowitzArthur_S is the same person as Helios2Mar 24 12:41
schestowitzI will warn #fsf nowMar 24 12:41
psydroidI didn't know if other persons were also targetted, but I read the backlog and saw mjg59 doing similar things, so I decided to bring it upMar 24 12:42
schestowitzlet's see if people there too were targetedMar 24 12:43
schestowitzI posted:Mar 24 12:43
schestowitzPublic announcement: over at techrights we've been targeted by matthew garrett and Arthur_S (the same person as Helios2). DO NOT REPLY to them. Their modus operandi is to ask people publicly or privately about pedophilia. They try to engineer phony scandals. Do not reply to them.Mar 24 12:43
schestowitzpsydroid: they always bring up sexMar 24 12:43
schestowitzmind is all sexMar 24 12:43
schestowitzpsydroid: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/sex-trolling.pngMar 24 12:44
schestowitzdo not reply to themMar 24 12:44
schestowitzreport to me if they contact youMar 24 12:44
schestowitzlike I said last night, we might do an article when sufficient info becomes availableMar 24 12:44
psydroidschestowitz, I never replied, just took notice and just told you. I could even send my log to you by encrypted e-mail.Mar 24 12:45
schestowitzgoodMar 24 12:46
schestowitzI want to hear if/which other people got the sameMar 24 12:46
schestowitzyou cannot compel trolls to seek professional helpMar 24 12:46
schestowitzbut you can ignoreMar 24 12:46
schestowitz[12:45] <adfeno> schestowitz: Noted.Mar 24 12:51
schestowitz[12:45] <adfeno> I wonder which are their IRC handles/nicksMar 24 12:52
schestowitz[12:53] <nupilios> schestowitz: thank you for the information. what's their benefit doing this?Mar 24 12:54
schestowitz[12:54] <schestowitz> Garrett (mjg59) reportedly directly messages some people in IRC, unsolicited, presenting them with shrewdly-crafted and loaded questions about pedophilia (they ignore and report this), so it's possible he does it elsewhere to. And we know what he wants. He and others. See their petition. They want to cancel all the "ENABLERS" or RMS, in effect disbanding the FSF.Mar 24 12:54
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schestowitz[13:11] <adfeno> schestowitz: And I guess Arthur_S and Helios2 are both already IRC nick names, right ?Mar 24 13:38
schestowitz[13:18] <adfeno> schestowitz: It seems Arthur_S's account is relatively new, since it doesn't have a cloak, Helios2 doesn't even have an account.Mar 24 13:38
schestowitz[13:37] <schestowitz> those two accounts are the same, and the person is new in our IRC channelMar 24 13:38
schestowitz[13:46] <mnhrdt> lol, some people have strange hobbiesMar 24 13:49
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DaemonFC[m]https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/covid-19-hong-kong-clinic-punished-pfizer-biontech-over-sinovac-14479802Mar 24 14:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.channelnewsasia.com | Hong Kong clinic punished for recommending Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine over China's Sinovac - CNAMar 24 14:31
DaemonFC[m]Then they stopped using Pfizer and said some of the caps on the vials were defective right after this.Mar 24 14:31
DaemonFC[m]So, forcing everyone to take Sinopharm or nothing.Mar 24 14:31
DaemonFC[m]MinceR The Orbanians were buying up a bunch of that I think.Mar 24 14:34
MinceRyeahMar 24 14:34
schestowitzwho can blame them?Mar 24 14:42
schestowitzLook what Europe has been doingMar 24 14:42
schestowitzlots of nations sign secret deal for monopoliesMar 24 14:42
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: can you paste here what the troll told you?Mar 24 14:42
schestowitzI am researching thisMar 24 14:42
schestowitz[14:43] * schestowitz leaves due to tollsMar 24 14:43
techrights-bot...there are now trolls in the FSF IRC channel. Trolling the FSF in the IRC channel isn't cool and reaffirms my thoughts about the "cancel RMS" brigade.Mar 24 14:44
techrights-botThe Tactics Against Popular Movements Have Hardly Changed • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/24/derailing-movements/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW #FBI gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/24/derailing-movements/Mar 24 14:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Tactics Against Popular Movements Have Hardly Changed | TechrightsMar 24 14:57
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #Techdirt ☞ #NorthCarolina Legislators Push Bill That Would Prevent Cops, Prosecutors From Charging Six-Year-Olds For Picking Flowers https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210319/13081346457/north-carolina-legislators-push-bill-that-would-prevent-cops-prosecutors-charging-six-year-olds-picking-flowers.shtmlMar 24 15:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-North Carolina Legislators Push Bill That Would Prevent Cops, Prosecutors From Charging Six-Year-Olds For Picking Flowers | TechdirtMar 24 15:27
techrights-bot#zdnet now pushing #microsoft #malware for #gnu #linux ... yet again. SJVN pushing back doors for GNU/Linux ("Defender") and after systematic defamation of RMS they push/urge GNU/Linux users to install something that lets Microsoft spy on them and control their systems! #boycottZDNet http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNetMar 24 15:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - TechrightsMar 24 15:29
techrights-bot#SJVN of #zdnet is a #PieceOfWork http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/sjvn-senior-moment/Mar 24 15:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | One Year Later Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols’ Libel Against Richard Stallman Remains Online and Uncorrected at ZDNet | TechrightsMar 24 15:30
techrights-bot#zdnet : let's kill RMS and put #microsoft #malware in #gnu #linux And now FSFE: we take money from Microsoft and #google so RMS sucks (just ignore our sponsors!Mar 24 15:31
techrights-botFSFE isn't supposed to use the letters "FSF" http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/fsf-fsfe-dispute/Mar 24 15:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Leak: FSF/FSFE Trademark Dispute (FSF Demanding That FSFE Should Change the Organisation’s Name) | TechrightsMar 24 15:32
techrights-botStop Calling the FSFE “Free Software Foundation” (There’s No Direct Connection) http://techrights.org/2020/09/05/fsf-is-not-fsfe/Mar 24 15:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Stop Calling the FSFE “Free Software Foundation” (There’s No Direct Connection) | TechrightsMar 24 15:33
techrights-botThe Relationship Between #FSF and #FSFE http://techrights.org/2020/09/05/fsf-and-fsfe/Mar 24 15:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Relationship Between FSF and FSFE | TechrightsMar 24 15:34
techrights-botLeak: Richard Stallman (RMS) Was Betrayed by Matthias Kirschner’s FSFE, Which Closely Connected With People Who Attack Stallman http://techrights.org/2020/08/23/back-stabbing-richard-stallman/Mar 24 15:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Leak: Richard Stallman (RMS) Was Betrayed by Matthias Kirschner’s FSFE, Which Closely Connected With People Who Attack Stallman | TechrightsMar 24 15:34
techrights-botLeak: #FSFE and #OSI Coordinate Rubbing Off #FreeSoftware by Saying “Open Source” is the Same (It’s Not, Same False Argument From 20 Years Earlier) http://techrights.org/2020/08/23/osi-fsfe-collusion-and-coordination/Mar 24 15:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Leak: FSFE and OSI Coordinate Rubbing Off Free Software by Saying “Open Source” is the Same (It’s Not, Same False Argument From 20 Years Earlier) | TechrightsMar 24 15:35
techrights-botWhat people looking to "cancel" RMS really (REALLY) think about people with disabilities http://techrights.org/2020/10/11/osi-and-rms/Mar 24 15:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Open Source Initiative Cannot Lecture People on Manners and Tolerance (and Probably Never Could) | TechrightsMar 24 15:36
Ariadnei agree that FSFE has no business commenting on RMS when they have their own skeletons to deal withMar 24 15:48
techrights-botFSFE is just a #monopolies satallites at this stage, weaponised against the FSF -- a name it is NOT supposed to be borrowing. http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/fsf-fsfe-dispute/Mar 24 15:54
schestowitzAriadne: +1Mar 24 15:55
techrights-botLet’s Get the Free Software Foundation on Gemini Space! • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/24/gemini-space-perfect-fit-for-fsf/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/24/gemini-space-perfect-fit-for-fsf/Mar 24 15:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Let’s Get the Free Software Foundation on Gemini Space! | TechrightsMar 24 15:55
Ariadnei also question why OSI invited themselves to the partyMar 24 15:56
Ariadnelike, they don't really have anything tangible to contribute to this discussionMar 24 15:57
techrights-bot#FSFE = satellites for #monopolies http://techrights.org/2020/09/05/fsf-and-fsfe/ http://techrights.org/2020/09/05/fsf-is-not-fsfe/ http://techrights.org/2020/08/23/osi-fsfe-collusion-and-coordination/ http://techrights.org/2020/08/23/back-stabbing-richard-stallman/ http://techrights.org/2020/10/11/osi-and-rms/Mar 24 15:57
Ariadnethough, i did sign The Letter(tm)Mar 24 15:57
schestowitzAriadne: they have profoudn issuesMar 24 15:57
schestowitzOSIMar 24 15:57
schestowitzthey have NO leadershipMar 24 15:57
schestowitznobody at the wheelMar 24 15:57
schestowitznobodyMar 24 15:57
schestowitzthey can't even do electionsMar 24 15:58
schestowitzPatrick left Mar 24 15:58
schestowitzin a hurryMar 24 15:58
schestowitzand they don't even know how to maintain their wiki, apparentlyMar 24 15:58
schestowitzso they figured, let's get noticed by doing a blog postMar 24 15:58
schestowitzand it merely proved RMS right on OSI being an attack on him/FSF, not a complementMar 24 15:58
schestowitzPerens and RMS are talkingMar 24 15:58
schestowitzI know because they told meMar 24 15:59
Ariadnemy reasons for signing The Letter(tm) had everything to do with RMS screaming at interns during libreplanet because the stage was arranged wrongMar 24 15:59
schestowitzso the concern about OSI is shared among OSI's co-foundersMar 24 15:59
Ariadneand showing solidarity with friends who still maintain GNU software who want changeMar 24 15:59
schestowitzthat's OKMar 24 15:59
schestowitzdifferent people sign for different reasonsMar 24 15:59
Ariadnei think it is important to show solidarity with friends who are doing the hard work of keeping all of this goingMar 24 15:59
schestowitzI don't generaliseMar 24 15:59
schestowitzthe list categorises a bitMar 24 15:59
*schestowitz gives voice to polezaivsaniMar 24 16:00
schestowitzwelcome, polezaivsaniMar 24 16:00
schestowitzthe #fsf channel was being trolled todayMar 24 16:01
Ariadnepersonally i think FSF is the pastMar 24 16:01
schestowitzso we're a bit overprotective at this timeMar 24 16:01
schestowitzAriadne: it was bigger in the pastMar 24 16:01
schestowitzbut there are still issues to be tackledMar 24 16:01
Ariadnei have yet to see any evidence showing FSF is going to pivot in a positive directionMar 24 16:01
Ariadnewe will seeMar 24 16:01
Ariadneto me, i think the work of actually producing and maintaining free software is more importantMar 24 16:01
schestowitzGNU does thatMar 24 16:01
schestowitzGNU is supported by FSFMar 24 16:02
schestowitzthe licences alsoMar 24 16:02
AriadneGNU does *some* of thatMar 24 16:02
schestowitzfor that alone we need to keep the FSF strongMar 24 16:02
schestowitzI use tons of GNU toolsMar 24 16:02
schestowitzyou do tooMar 24 16:02
schestowitzmaybe not on alpineMar 24 16:02
schestowitzbut each time you access an instance with gnu and linux you use gnu programsMar 24 16:02
Ariadnei still use GNU tools, but not because they are GNU toolsMar 24 16:02
Ariadnei use whatever tools i can get that are the best i can get for the taskMar 24 16:02
Ariadnethere are a lot of GNU tools that are not goodMar 24 16:03
Ariadnegcc is not in a good stateMar 24 16:03
polezaivsanisuppose you know by now, but just in case - there is a petition in support of RMS, alas github - https://rms-support-letter.github.io/Mar 24 16:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rms-support-letter.github.io | A open letter in support of RMS. | An open letter in support of Richard Matthew Stallman being reinstated by the Free Software FoundationMar 24 16:03
Ariadnewe now track GCC release branches in git because its the best way to get fixesMar 24 16:04
Ariadnepolezaivsani: yes, and i support people to sign that letter if they agree with itMar 24 16:04
Ariadnesign whatever you want to sign, say whatever you want to sayMar 24 16:04
Ariadnethis is how a democratic society worksMar 24 16:05
schestowitzpolezaivsani: yes, I don't think these petitions will accomplish anythingMar 24 16:05
schestowitzthe dust will settleMar 24 16:05
schestowitzthe FSF's site already lists his as Board MemberMar 24 16:05
Ariadneultimately, GNU maintainers will have to make a decisionMar 24 16:05
schestowitzI try to focus on other issues pertaining to sw freedomMar 24 16:05
Ariadnethat is the only decision that really mattersMar 24 16:05
schestowitza petition on microsoft proprietary software monopoly is sort fo self-discrediting anywayMar 24 16:06
schestowitzI am trying not to spend time doing articles on this topicMar 24 16:06
schestowitzjust quick mention, rebuttals in link formMar 24 16:07
schestowitzall this is old newsMar 24 16:07
schestowitzrepurposed dirtMar 24 16:07
schestowitzso we mostly have rebuttals and analyses (accumulated for 18 months)Mar 24 16:07
AriadneGNU maintainers can choose to invoke clause 2 in their copyright assignment agreements with FSF and "fork out" of GNU/FSFMar 24 16:07
Ariadneif they do not want RMS as leader, that is what they will ultimately doMar 24 16:08
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Ariadneand if that is what they believe in their heart, then they should rightly do itMar 24 16:08
techrights-bot#GNOME 40 Desktop Environment Officially Released, This Is What’s New • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149167 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #GTKMar 24 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 40 Desktop Environment Officially Released, This Is What’s New | Tux MachinesMar 24 16:08
techrights-botHurrah! #Ubuntu 21.04 Fixes a Glaring Deficiency • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149168 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 16:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hurrah! Ubuntu 21.04 Fixes a Glaring Deficiency | Tux MachinesMar 24 16:09
Ariadneso, that's going to be the thing to look at, imoMar 24 16:09
Ariadnethe rest of this is just clownworldMar 24 16:10
techrights-botBibliography improvements in #LibreOffice Writer • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149169 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 16:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bibliography improvements in LibreOffice Writer | Tux MachinesMar 24 16:10
schestowitzAriadne: it'll blow overMar 24 16:10
XRevan86Ariadne: But isn't The Letter actually very harsh especially if the reasons are RMS not being a gentleman?Mar 24 16:10
schestowitzthe petitionMar 24 16:10
schestowitzpeople will move onMar 24 16:11
schestowitzthe dust will settleMar 24 16:11
schestowitzmaybe by today's endMar 24 16:11
AriadneXRevan86: i wouldn't have composed it the way they didMar 24 16:11
schestowitzTorvalds too can be harshMar 24 16:11
schestowitzsaying code is "Crap"Mar 24 16:11
AriadneXRevan86: but i mostly agree with itMar 24 16:11
XRevan86i.e. disproportionateMar 24 16:11
schestowitzinstead of "not beautifulMar 24 16:11
schestowitzor "could be improved"Mar 24 16:11
schestowitzwe recently saw what happens when bad code gets merged inMar 24 16:11
Ariadneor, more precisely, i agree with GNU maintainers wanting to complain about their bossMar 24 16:11
Ariadnei support their speechMar 24 16:12
schestowitzemergency releases as data is lost of h/w gets brickedMar 24 16:12
schestowitzno boss is prfectMar 24 16:12
schestowitzRMS is far from perfectMar 24 16:12
schestowitzin many waysMar 24 16:12
schestowitzbut he is the originator of the projectMar 24 16:12
schestowitzhe committed no crimeMar 24 16:12
schestowitzIf we cannot be compassionate to some degreeMar 24 16:13
schestowitzthen we deserve no real leadershipMar 24 16:13
schestowitzand then it's hard to coordinate thingsMar 24 16:13
XRevan86Ariadne: "We are calling for the removal of the entire Board of the Free Software Foundation"Mar 24 16:13
XRevan86"We are also calling for Richard M. Stallman to be removed from all leadership positions, including the GNU Project."Mar 24 16:13
AriadneXRevan86: yes, i agree with that.  they engaged in chicanery.Mar 24 16:13
schestowitzAlpine has virtual hierarchyMar 24 16:13
schestowitzAriadne: those statements are self-discrediting Mar 24 16:14
schestowitzfor the petittioners Mar 24 16:14
schestowitzthey call for collective punishmentMar 24 16:14
schestowitzwhich is historically a very notorious concept or methodMar 24 16:14
schestowitzlike butchering a whole villageMar 24 16:14
schestowitzfor the action of one personMar 24 16:14
Ariadnethey believe the board voted on an issue that should not have been raisedMar 24 16:14
schestowitzusing collective accountability as weapon of mass oppressionMar 24 16:14
Ariadnethusly, they believe the board is flawedMar 24 16:14
XRevan86Ariadne: Chicanery? In what way? I guess by making the people who don't like RMS think they got rid of them?Mar 24 16:14
AriadneXRevan86: it was a surprise voteMar 24 16:15
techrights-bot#GNOME 40 released • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149170 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #GTKMar 24 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 40 released | Tux MachinesMar 24 16:15
Ariadnethe board was not made aware of it, lxoliva just raised the issue out of the blueMar 24 16:15
techrights-botInstalling #OpenSUSE Leap 15 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149171 •●• #GNU #Linux #SUSEMar 24 16:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Installing OpenSUSE Leap 15 | Tux MachinesMar 24 16:15
Ariadnethis is, not a healthy board any way you look at itMar 24 16:15
techrights-bot#Ubuntu 20.10 Wallpaper is Revealed – And It’s Hairy! • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149172 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freeSWMar 24 16:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 20.10 Wallpaper is Revealed – And It’s Hairy! | Tux MachinesMar 24 16:16
AriadneFSF should have had a conversation with their donors about this before implementing it without even telling staffMar 24 16:16
schestowitzFSF supporters agree with thisMar 24 16:16
schestowitzand GNUMar 24 16:16
schestowitzbased on IRCMar 24 16:16
XRevan86Ariadne: Hm, O.K., I see your point. But now the trick is that this open letter doesn't make that point or at least doesn't make it visible enough, because that's not the focus for them.Mar 24 16:16
schestowitzas was reported to meMar 24 16:17
Ariadnesome FSF and GNU people agree with itMar 24 16:17
schestowitzit's the media egging people on, pushing old liesMar 24 16:17
Ariadnebut there was no actual discussionMar 24 16:17
schestowitzlike that "Door sign" stuffMar 24 16:17
Ariadneand there are FSF and GNU people who signed the letterMar 24 16:17
Ariadneso clearly, they did *not* agreeMar 24 16:17
schestowitzwhat proportion?Mar 24 16:17
schestowitz10 out of 1000?Mar 24 16:17
schestowitzmore?Mar 24 16:17
schestowitz"the 1%"Mar 24 16:18
XRevan86The letter is more about RMS being an evil person who should be removed from society.Mar 24 16:18
Ariadnei would say about 30% of the signature list are FSF/GNU affiliatedMar 24 16:18
techrights-bot#GNOME 40 Released with Major Design Change. Here’s What’s New. • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149173 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #GTKMar 24 16:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 40 Released with Major Design Change. Here’s What’s New. | Tux MachinesMar 24 16:19
schestowitzFSF is only about 20 people maxMar 24 16:20
schestowitzhas any FSF >MEMBER OF STAFF< signed?Mar 24 16:20
AriadneyesMar 24 16:21
Ariadneseveral previous FSF staff who were involved in writing GPLv3 signedMar 24 16:21
Ariadnei think i saw one or two current FSF staff tooMar 24 16:21
Ariadnei don't really care what FSF board does though or who is on itMar 24 16:22
Ariadnethat's not why i signed itMar 24 16:22
Ariadnei am well aware nothing will come of itMar 24 16:22
XRevan86Ariadne: So, to me, it looks like this letter is not healthy either.Mar 24 16:22
schestowitzI share that view, Ariadne, it'll just make a pointMar 24 16:22
AriadnegreatMar 24 16:22
Ariadnedon't sign itMar 24 16:22
schestowitzand then we will move onMar 24 16:22
Ariadnesign the RMS support letter if you wantMar 24 16:23
schestowitzwe had an anti-Microsoft/Novell deal pettiionMar 24 16:23
Ariadnedoes not matter to meMar 24 16:23
schestowitzPerens set it upMar 24 16:23
schestowitzyears later it would go offline and nobody remembers that 2006 petitionMar 24 16:23
schestowitzonly Internet ArchiveMar 24 16:23
schestowitzI even signed it before BN existedMar 24 16:23
Ariadneif GNU people really care about this, they will invoke clause 2 of their copyright assignment agreement with FSF and "fork out" of GNUMar 24 16:23
schestowitz>some< GNU peopleMar 24 16:23
schestowitzand that lacks momentumMar 24 16:24
schestowitzhence the trolling in IRCMar 24 16:24
schestowitzthat I saw this morningMar 24 16:24
schestowitztrying hard to get people to visit microsofthubMar 24 16:24
schestowitzand sign that pageMar 24 16:24
schestowitzbecause they mostly lost momentumMar 24 16:24
Ariadne"GNU people" there meaning "individual GNU maintainers"Mar 24 16:24
Ariadneeither way, it would be nice to see the board change radicallyMar 24 16:24
schestowitz[16:22] <XRevan86> Ariadne: So, to me, it looks like this letter is not healthy either.Mar 24 16:24
schestowitzit is divisiveMar 24 16:24
schestowitzwhich I guess is the intentionMar 24 16:25
Ariadneit would be nice also for FSF staff and management to be released from their NDAsMar 24 16:25
schestowitzit's like Sarah Meit gitifiedMar 24 16:25
schestowitz"Let's kill the WHOLE FSF!"Mar 24 16:25
XRevan86Ariadne: I'm not shunning you for having an opinion, but this letter being worded as it is matters a lot.Mar 24 16:25
schestowitzwith guilt by association, tooMar 24 16:25
schestowitz*MeiMar 24 16:25
AriadneXRevan86: as i said, i would have written it differentlyMar 24 16:25
schestowitzthe person who wrote the letter clearly blackmails the FSFMar 24 16:25
Ariadnei just wanted to support the GNU maintainers who i mentored in their expression of free speechMar 24 16:25
schestowitzfor someone else's wordsMar 24 16:25
schestowitzand that's not coolMar 24 16:25
*schestowitz does not sign petition he does not 100% agrees withMar 24 16:26
schestowitz*agree withMar 24 16:26
Ariadnei agree with itMar 24 16:26
schestowitzlike anti-UPC petitionMar 24 16:26
Ariadnebut i am also realisticMar 24 16:26
schestowitzif it says something like, let's do it betterMar 24 16:26
schestowitzUPC as a whole should doMar 24 16:26
schestowitzno "better" to itMar 24 16:26
schestowitzas it's a bad ideaMar 24 16:26
schestowitzthat's a problem with petitionsMar 24 16:27
schestowitzpeople have varied reasonsMar 24 16:27
schestowitzputting many names under a statement made by one person is no goodMar 24 16:27
schestowitzpeople have different objectives, objections, etc.Mar 24 16:27
schestowitzbased on what you say, you sign a statement you partly do not agree withMar 24 16:27
schestowitzsome people contacted me after they had seen your name thereMar 24 16:27
schestowitzand I said it's OKMar 24 16:28
Ariadneno, i agree with the entire board of FSF needing to goMar 24 16:28
schestowitz but they assume the words of collective punishment/vengeance/blackmail are yours, by extensionMar 24 16:28
Ariadnethe organization needs a complete reboot, and that's the only way it's going to happenMar 24 16:28
schestowitzit cannot happenMar 24 16:28
schestowitztoo disruptiveMar 24 16:28
schestowitzthat's a coupMar 24 16:28
schestowitz"reboot" is nice on paperMar 24 16:29
schestowitzbut there are workflowsMar 24 16:29
schestowitzit's a living organisismMar 24 16:29
XRevan86schestowitz: That's why an opening statement should try to be objective.Mar 24 16:29
schestowitzyou can deal with one departrure at a timeMar 24 16:29
schestowitzotherwise it's total disarrayMar 24 16:29
schestowitzsee OSIMar 24 16:29
schestowitzthey cannot even run elections of properly edit their wikiMar 24 16:29
schestowitzit's a clusterfunkMar 24 16:29
schestowitz*or properlyMar 24 16:29
XRevan86and not soaking a person into poopMar 24 16:29
schestowitzthey also made false claims Mar 24 16:30
schestowitzlike "ableism"Mar 24 16:30
schestowitzit's the people who signed this letterMar 24 16:30
schestowitze.g. SImon Phipps (OSI)Mar 24 16:30
schestowitzwho are guilty of abelismMar 24 16:30
AriadneRMS did suggest aborting people with downs syndrome and compared having a child with downs syndrome to having a petMar 24 16:30
schestowitzagainst RMS HIMSELF!!!!Mar 24 16:30
schestowitzSee http://techrights.org/2020/10/11/osi-and-rms/Mar 24 16:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Open Source Initiative Cannot Lecture People on Manners and Tolerance (and Probably Never Could) | TechrightsMar 24 16:30
Ariadneyes, i don't like the "RMS has autism" excuseMar 24 16:30
schestowitzso the hypocrisy, I found, it so astounding I cannot help but laughMar 24 16:31
schestowitzAriadne: many share that viewMar 24 16:31
schestowitzsee the Palin debatesMar 24 16:31
schestowitzover having a disabled kidMar 24 16:31
Ariadnethat ethical question is not one i am qualified to considerMar 24 16:31
schestowitzthe pro-/-for choice or "pro-life" (spin) debate is toxicMar 24 16:31
schestowitzand divisivMar 24 16:31
schestowitzyet everyone everywhere has a view on abortionMar 24 16:32
Ariadnei wish i could abort myself out of this conversation :)Mar 24 16:32
schestowitzRMS wakes up, reads guardianMar 24 16:32
schestowitzhas a viewMar 24 16:32
schestowitzsometimes even sends it to the guardianMar 24 16:32
Ariadnei agree with what you're sayingMar 24 16:32
schestowitzposts a few thoughts in his personal siteMar 24 16:33
schestowitzwhat if he happens to be slightly intoxicated too?Mar 24 16:33
Ariadnelike i said, i wish they had used different points to make their pointMar 24 16:33
XRevan86Ariadne: I know the feeling.Mar 24 16:33
schestowitzOr angry/furious?Mar 24 16:33
schestowitzshould we treat all people that way?Mar 24 16:33
Ariadnewell i think it is good to hold leaders to a high standardMar 24 16:33
schestowitzor crucify them?Mar 24 16:33
Ariadnecrucify, noMar 24 16:34
Ariadnei guess, here's the thingMar 24 16:34
Ariadnelets say there is somebody who is not RMS, but similarMar 24 16:34
Ariadneand they come and participate in AlpineMar 24 16:34
Ariadnethey choose subordinates and then frequently contradict their own subordinatesMar 24 16:35
techrights-botStable Kernels: 5.11.9, 5.4.108, 4.19.183, 4.14.227, 4.9.263 , and 4.4.263 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149174 •●• #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 16:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.11.9, 5.4.108, 4.19.183, 4.14.227, 4.9.263 , and 4.4.263 | Tux MachinesMar 24 16:35
Ariadnethey scream at internsMar 24 16:35
Ariadnewe would kick that person out of AlpineMar 24 16:35
Ariadnewe *have* kicked people like that out of AlpineMar 24 16:35
schestowitzhe did anger managementMar 24 16:35
schestowitzafter some outbursts in the pastMar 24 16:36
schestowitzTorvalds too was turned in to manners trainingMar 24 16:36
schestowitzand then came backMar 24 16:36
schestowitzit takes humilityMar 24 16:36
schestowitzat least they do itMar 24 16:36
schestowitznow LT is back in LFMar 24 16:36
schestowitzand kernel.orMar 24 16:36
Ariadnewell i am happy for him, but respect is earned/regainedMar 24 16:36
schestowitzRMS is chief of GNU and maybe soon Pres. of FSFMar 24 16:36
schestowitzAriadne: he became more mellow this past 1-2 yearsMar 24 16:37
Ariadneif i acted like that, i would not just come back a year later, i would be shitlistedMar 24 16:37
schestowitzin his communications, whose style changedMar 24 16:37
schestowitzthe ego of LT is worseMar 24 16:37
schestowitzbut that's not the pointMar 24 16:37
schestowitzmy strength, I think, is my very low temperMar 24 16:37
schestowitzI smile at bad news, which is an opportunity to rebutMar 24 16:38
Ariadneanyway, my point isMar 24 16:38
Ariadnehad this been handled differentlyMar 24 16:38
Ariadnehad RMS sat down and had a candid discussion with folksMar 24 16:38
schestowitzI am proud to be booted from Twitter for objecting to vaccines hoard by rich countriesMar 24 16:38
Ariadnei don't think any of this would be happeningMar 24 16:38
schestowitzAriadne: they would find something else on himMar 24 16:38
schestowitzit would be relentlessMar 24 16:38
Ariadneif he has learned from experience -- great!Mar 24 16:38
Ariadneschestowitz: that's the problem with being a leaderMar 24 16:39
Ariadneit comes with the territoryMar 24 16:39
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schestowitz"Microsoft Mar 24 16:39
schestowitzhas been working for decades to disparage RMS and to try to get                                                             Mar 24 16:39
schestowitz[16:03] <Techrights-sec> a self-renewing attack atmosphere against him.  Notice what happened, for exampe,                                              Mar 24 16:39
schestowitz[16:03] <Techrights-sec> with the Takeda prize.Mar 24 16:39
Ariadnewhat matters is the morale of the troopsMar 24 16:39
Ariadneand you can see the morale is not one of enthusiasmMar 24 16:39
schestowitzI paid more attention to RMS after CompTIA attacked himMar 24 16:39
schestowitzand I know it was a front for MicrosoftMar 24 16:40
schestowitzthe attacks on him are sometimes counterproductiveMar 24 16:40
schestowitzwhich is why I said putting this petition on MSFT proprietary software monopoly is self-defeatingMar 24 16:40
schestowitzpeople are led to conclude those people do exactly the opposite of what GNU and FSF recommendMar 24 16:40
schestowitzGNU gave GitHub an F!Mar 24 16:41
schestowitzSource: https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria-evaluation.en.htmlMar 24 16:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | GNU Ethical Repository Criteria Evaluations - GNU Project - Free Software FoundationMar 24 16:41
schestowitzso the people who hang in there, e.g. setting up petition, are no friends of GNUMar 24 16:41
schestowitzand Microsoft can spy on the whole processMar 24 16:41
schestowitze.g. to game peopleMar 24 16:41
schestowitzlots of "BI" to be done  thereMar 24 16:42
schestowitzit's like they handed over control over the anti-RMS brigade to Microsoft ^_^Mar 24 16:42
schestowitzI'm glad they didMar 24 16:42
schestowitzbecause they shoot themselves in the footMar 24 16:42
schestowitzAriadne: as for morale, as you had brought that upMar 24 16:43
schestowitzI planned to say:Mar 24 16:43
schestowitzmorale in society has logn been decliningMar 24 16:43
schestowitz2008 financial crisisMar 24 16:43
schestowitzpeople not sure if they'll ever reach pension age and, if so, if they can afford to retireMar 24 16:43
schestowitzmany are not employedMar 24 16:43
schestowitzthe future is anything  but brightMar 24 16:43
schestowitzand climate closing down on many in poor countries with water shortages, even famineMar 24 16:44
schestowitzsome lack access to vaccinesMar 24 16:44
schestowitzthey are indefinitely stuck at homeMar 24 16:44
schestowitzManila for exampleMar 24 16:44
schestowitzmorale in GNU is no worse than in the "IT" 'industry'Mar 24 16:44
schestowitzwhere few companies on Pentagon steroi.. budget hoarded all the marketMar 24 16:44
schestowitznewsrooms dieMar 24 16:44
schestowitzall "social" network stuff and "ad revenue" is hoarded by the "screen time" monopolisersMar 24 16:45
schestowitzpeople see a 5-inch 'phone' screen instead of real friends they can embraceMar 24 16:45
schestowitz"but I got 5 LIKES!"Mar 24 16:45
AriadneanywayMar 24 16:45
schestowitzGNU is doing OKMar 24 16:45
schestowitzFree software is OKMar 24 16:46
schestowitzrelativelyMar 24 16:46
schestowitzmore people use itMar 24 16:46
schestowitzover timeMar 24 16:46
Ariadnei would say most signatories to that letter are doing so to show solidarity with the annoyed GNU maintainers who wrote a letter last timeMar 24 16:46
schestowitzEven Azure is becoming a farceMar 24 16:46
schestowitzAriadne: fine, good...Mar 24 16:46
schestowitzbut... we move onMar 24 16:46
schestowitzI know I willMar 24 16:46
schestowitzI promised myself not to do any articles about itMar 24 16:46
schestowitzor videosMar 24 16:46
Ariadneit does not matter to me practically either wayMar 24 16:46
schestowitzthe news is VERY slow todayMar 24 16:47
schestowitzexcept gnome 40Mar 24 16:47
Ariadnethere's nothing newsworthy about either letterMar 24 16:47
schestowitzyeah, just two pagesMar 24 16:47
Ariadnejust people expressing their opinionMar 24 16:47
schestowitznobody will care about them after april 1stMar 24 16:47
AriadneexactlyMar 24 16:47
schestowitzI have some German leaks comingMar 24 16:47
schestowitzEPO corruption and perjuryMar 24 16:47
schestowitzin AprilMar 24 16:47
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schestowitzthe only real news this week was, RMS is back to the BoardMar 24 16:49
schestowitznow confirmed by their Web siteMar 24 16:49
schestowitzTechrights covered that first, got 90k viewsMar 24 16:49
schestowitzand on we move nowMar 24 16:49
schestowitz"that's how it is..."Mar 24 16:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Manjaro 21.0 (rc1) Ornara released! | Tux MachinesMar 24 16:54
techrights-bot#GNOME 40 Released with Redesigned Overview, #Touchpad Gestures + More http://tuxmachines.org/node/149170#comment-28776 #gnu #linuxMar 24 16:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | GNOME 40 released | Tux MachinesMar 24 16:57
*MinceR gives voice to XFaCEMar 24 17:03
XFaCE@schestowitz, hi royMar 24 17:03
schestowitzhi GordMar 24 17:03
XFaCELong time no talk.Mar 24 17:04
XFaCEGlad to see as foundations come and go you are as consistent in your ethics as ever.Mar 24 17:04
XFaCE*foundations in the general sense, not the organizational senseMar 24 17:05
schestowitzyeahMar 24 17:06
schestowitzethics is subjectiveMar 24 17:06
schestowitzdepends on upbringingMar 24 17:06
schestowitzwe have dogs as petsMar 24 17:06
schestowitzwe eat cowsMar 24 17:06
schestowitzanything they claim about compassion is selectiveMar 24 17:06
schestowitz"be compassionate towards me"Mar 24 17:06
schestowitz"or else I will incompassionately destroy your career"Mar 24 17:07
schestowitzXFaCE: you have some drafts stillMar 24 17:07
schestowitzabout copyright in canadaMar 24 17:07
schestowitznot sure if you ever publish it, but it's a decade oldMar 24 17:07
schestowitzI remember you and I tested Jitsi before it was known as JitsiMar 24 17:07
schestowitzSIP CommunicatorMar 24 17:07
schestowitzthen you had to focus on your studiesMar 24 17:08
XFaCE><schestowitz> not sure if you ever publish it, but it's a decade oldMar 24 17:08
XFaCEyeah, it was all for not as the machine of corporatism continued unabatedMar 24 17:08
schestowitzGeist is still activeMar 24 17:08
XFaCEYeah, Jitsi is so much better now.Mar 24 17:08
schestowitzin that areaMar 24 17:08
XFaCEYeahMar 24 17:08
schestowitzwe link to his blog a lotMar 24 17:08
XFaCEI notice, you get pings in his comment sectionsMar 24 17:09
schestowitzI hear OBS is also good, but have not tried itMar 24 17:09
schestowitzXFaCE: those pings are "old school"Mar 24 17:09
schestowitzwhen people used blogs moreMar 24 17:09
schestowitzsome people want to get back to it, and ought toMar 24 17:09
XFaCEit's funny  you say that, as there's a momentum in that directionMar 24 17:10
XFaCErediscovery of things like bbsMar 24 17:10
XFaCE><schestowitz> ethics is subjectiveMar 24 17:11
schestowitzgeminiMar 24 17:11
XFaCEMore to highlight that you have not allowed corruption in what you truly believe to be correct based on ideals and evidenceMar 24 17:11
schestowitzipfsMar 24 17:11
schestowitzlike new p2pMar 24 17:11
schestowitzand new gopherMar 24 17:11
schestowitzblogsMar 24 17:11
schestowitzAriadne thought about doing a blog like GroklawMar 24 17:12
XFaCEOh groklawMar 24 17:12
schestowitzI looked into telnet+BBS last yearMar 24 17:12
schestowitzit's too tricky to set up and maintainMar 24 17:12
XFaCEI miss how they IP-outed Microsoft trollsMar 24 17:12
XFaCEnot sure how legal that was under privacy laws... but it was effectiveMar 24 17:12
schestowitzGroklaw was offline for 3 monthsMar 24 17:13
schestowitzcame back again as static siteMar 24 17:13
schestowitzwith missing pages and sometimes no commentsMar 24 17:13
schestowitzaging of web stacks if a problemMar 24 17:13
schestowitz*isMar 24 17:13
schestowitzand new versions of things add bloat and 'feature' you do not need or wantMar 24 17:13
schestowitzgroklaw is based on geeklogMar 24 17:13
schestowitzwhich afaik is no longer maintainedMar 24 17:13
schestowitzthat's why simple and old tech is often appreciated in the long runMar 24 17:14
schestowitzI use IRC right now. When I bought my first modem IRC was the first thing I did. DALNet IIRC.Mar 24 17:14
schestowitztoday's 'phones' become 'incompatible' with "apps" a few years after purchase... if they physically last that longMar 24 17:15
schestowitzanyway, back to news now.....Mar 24 17:15
XFaCEI have to say, I prefer the old TR look at techrights.org/?stories compared to the home pageMar 24 17:15
XFaCEbiased probably due to nostalgiaMar 24 17:15
techrights-botThe deeply defunct and intolerant OSI has no members of staff (only one interim member of staff) but it has the audacity to sign hypocritical petitions at #Microsoft ’s #GitHub •●• #Techrights #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/24/osi-should-elect-a-leader/Mar 24 17:16
XFaCEIs Eric S Raymond affiliated with OSI still?Mar 24 17:16
techrights-bot“History may not repeat itself. But it rhymes,” as the old saying goes • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/24/derailing-movements/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/24/derailing-movements/Mar 24 17:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Tactics Against Popular Movements Have Hardly Changed | TechrightsMar 24 17:17
techrights-botThe fast-growing #Geminispace (capsules that serve pages over Gemini protocol) is a perfect fit or a great complement for the FSF‘s Web site (the pages are easy to copy across); we take a look at the sorts of benefits this would entail • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/24/gemini-space-perfect-fit-for-fsf/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrightMar 24 17:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Let’s Get the Free Software Foundation on Gemini Space! | TechrightsMar 24 17:19
schestowitzin 2013-2020 it was techrights.org/homeMar 24 17:20
schestowitzdrupalMar 24 17:20
schestowitzXFaCE: no, and his site broke downMar 24 17:20
schestowitzthe DBMar 24 17:20
schestowitzhe posted a widely cited postMar 24 17:21
schestowitzon windows rebuilt with linuxMar 24 17:21
schestowitzand I assume the traffic killed itMar 24 17:21
MinceRwelcome back, XFaCE Mar 24 17:22
schestowitz:-)Mar 24 17:22
MinceRalso, i prefer the old TR look as wellMar 24 17:22
schestowitzthe latest stories one?Mar 24 17:22
MinceRyesMar 24 17:22
schestowitzthat can be done..Mar 24 17:23
XFaCEAlso there was some omitted content with Firefox reading view for some reasonMar 24 17:23
XFaCEon one of the articles I was readingMar 24 17:23
schestowitzodd...Mar 24 17:24
schestowitzwhich page?Mar 24 17:24
XFaCEOne of the FSFE articlesMar 24 17:27
techrights-bot#EPO trying to distract from corruption and illegal appointment of judges https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2021/20210324a.html see http://techrights.org/2021/03/18/boa-rendered-kangaroo-court/Mar 24 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - EPO continues oral proceedings by videoconference in examination and opposition during pendency of referral G 1/21Mar 24 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Patent Professionals Have Come to Realise That the EPO Boards of Appeal, Controlled by Office Management, Are Kangaroo Courts | TechrightsMar 24 17:27
XFaCEhttp://techrights.org/2021/02/15/fsfe-sick-leave-hypocrisy/Mar 24 17:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Matthias Kirschner, Jonas Oberg & FSFE: Paternity, Maternity, Sick Leave Hypocrisy | TechrightsMar 24 17:28
schestowitzXFaCE: can you still find it? Maybe we need to correct something..Mar 24 17:28
XFaCEjust didMar 24 17:28
schestowitzwhat do you see?Mar 24 17:28
schestowitzin read* mode?Mar 24 17:28
schestowitzI see the complete articleMar 24 17:28
XFaCEone sec, I can screenshot if necessaryMar 24 17:28
XFaCEoh wait, not firefoxMar 24 17:29
XFaCEbraveMar 24 17:29
schestowitzah, not geckoMar 24 17:30
XFaCEyeah, basically after "To recap the sequence of events:" it goes right to the leaksMar 24 17:31
techrights-bot"sued a law firm for legal malpractice." https://patentlyo.com/hricik/2021/03/enforceability-arbitration-malpractice.html It happens soooooo often. #techrights catalogued many such stories....Mar 24 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Enforceability of Clauses Requiring Arbitration of Malpractice Claims: Plummer v. McSweeney | Patently-OMar 24 17:31
XFaCEthe list is omittedMar 24 17:32
schestowitzmaybe a browser bugMar 24 17:32
schestowitzblink-based browser render it okMar 24 17:32
schestowitzsame for geckoMar 24 17:32
XFaCE yeah, and this is on lineageos tooMar 24 17:34
techrights-bot#patent system as instrument for merely enriching agents but excluding everyone else (not good, #uspto ... NOT GOOD AT ALL) https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/03/pretty-stiff-language.htmlMar 24 17:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Pretty Stiff Language Here | Patently-OMar 24 17:34
XFaCEI think the Brave reading mode on android is still experimentalishMar 24 17:34
techrights-bot#PinePhone Beta Edition Linux smartphone is now available for pre-order for $150 and up • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149175 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 17:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PinePhone Beta Edition Linux smartphone is now available for pre-order for $150 and up | Tux MachinesMar 24 17:35
XFaCE@schestowitz, I have a pinephoneMar 24 17:38
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: kode54, one of the signers to Cancel RMS on ShitHub, gives a landing page on his site to Brave users telling them why they should boycott Brave.Mar 24 17:40
DaemonFC[m]mjg59, who I have ignored because he spams me now, pointed at a post by RMS saying that the government should not be able to outlaw art and works of fiction.Mar 24 17:40
DaemonFC[m]Which is true. It's highly subjective and there definitely isn't a real victim involved.Mar 24 17:41
DaemonFC[m]In the next sentence, RMS said that people who abuse actual children or possess imagery of such should be punished by the legal system for it.Mar 24 17:41
techrights-bot#Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149176 •●• #google #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 17:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 24 17:41
DaemonFC[m]But outlawing art is sort of bleeding over into thought crime.Mar 24 17:42
schestowitzXFaCE: is it any good?Mar 24 17:42
DaemonFC[m]It's impossible to police people's thoughts and thoughts are very different than actions.Mar 24 17:42
DaemonFC[m]For example, we've all thought (hopefully briefly) about killing someone who made us angry.Mar 24 17:43
schestowitzanyway, don't play his handMar 24 17:43
DaemonFC[m]Does that mean that if the government one day develops a mind reading device, that it should inflict capital punishment on anyone who has had a homicidal thought?Mar 24 17:43
schestowitzdon't bring up the subject hereMar 24 17:43
schestowitzthis is a trolling tacticMar 24 17:43
schestowitzas someone might  respond with a different viewMar 24 17:43
schestowitzXFaCE: we don't do 'phones' anymoreMar 24 17:44
schestowitzjust cordless landlinesMar 24 17:44
XFaCEHardware is datedMar 24 17:44
XFaCEbut the flexbility is goodMar 24 17:44
DaemonFC[m]They talk of fMRI as a potential precursor to one day having the ability to read someone's thoughts.Mar 24 17:44
XFaCEyou can basically use it as a normal keyboardMar 24 17:44
schestowitzXFaCE: depends what you need from itMar 24 17:44
DaemonFC[m]Their cooperation will not be required.Mar 24 17:44
schestowitzI said when covid-19 lockdowns started:Mar 24 17:44
schestowitzthat people would not be as mobileMar 24 17:44
schestowitzmaybe for years to comeMar 24 17:45
DaemonFC[m]Maybe they could hook up mjg59 and see if he's ever beaten off while thinking of something not good.Mar 24 17:45
DaemonFC[m]Or wanted to kill someone.Mar 24 17:45
schestowitzthus, the need for mobility decreasedMar 24 17:45
XFaCEerrMar 24 17:45
XFaCEnormal computerMar 24 17:45
DaemonFC[m]Then they can punish him severely!Mar 24 17:45
schestowitzwires connections became apriorityMar 24 17:45
schestowitzlaptop sales soaredMar 24 17:45
XFaCEholy crap is my typos annoying of lateMar 24 17:45
schestowitzit's iRCMar 24 17:45
schestowitztypOs no ma55ersMar 24 17:45
DaemonFC[m]Everyone, every single person, has thoughts that they do not want in their head.Mar 24 17:46
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: people with empty lives want to suck the life out of other peopleMar 24 17:46
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: don't feed that sociopathMar 24 17:46
DaemonFC[m]The difference is whether they control thoughts before they lead to inappropriate actions.Mar 24 17:46
schestowitzand seeing their stupid petition goes nowhereMar 24 17:46
schestowitz(FSF added RMS to their Board pages and all)Mar 24 17:46
schestowitzhe's now trying the same on usMar 24 17:46
schestowitzjust waiting for some chance to cancel a "consolation prize"Mar 24 17:46
Chaekyunglmao https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2021/mar/23/outreachy-fsf/Mar 24 17:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sfconservancy.org | On the Recent Announcement by FSF's Board of Directors - Conservancy Blog - Software Freedom ConservancyMar 24 17:47
schestowitztrollsMar 24 17:47
ChaekyungIn response to Sunday's announcement by the Free Software Foundation, we ceased our few remaining activities that intersect directly with the FSF. Most notably, our Outreachy member project exited the FSF from participating in that program — both through mentorship and sponsorship. One project participant in Outreachy's May 2021 round planned to rely on FSF funding. We will not accept those funds Mar 24 17:47
Chaekyungfrom the FSF, and instead Conservancy will pay for that intern ($6,500) from our own general funds. It is my deepest hope that these actions, along with others all over the FOSS community, will catalyze much needed changes at the FSF.Mar 24 17:47
schestowitzignore themMar 24 17:47
schestowitzFSF made a mistakeMar 24 17:47
DaemonFC[m]Outreach to Nasty Women is no longer participating?Mar 24 17:47
schestowitzthey gave an AWARD to bkuhnMar 24 17:47
DaemonFC[m]I'm sure that'll be a big loss.Mar 24 17:47
Chaekyung>be madMar 24 17:48
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/03/20/bradley-kuhn-fsf-award/Mar 24 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why Does the FSF Keep Rewarding People Who Work Against the FSF’s Founder? | TechrightsMar 24 17:48
Chaekyung>save the FSF $6500 in wasted moneyMar 24 17:48
Chaekyungnot sure how that's a bad thingMar 24 17:48
schestowitzhornet's nestMar 24 17:48
DaemonFC[m]Nothing like paid internships that only go to people with sex organs on the inside. That's totally equality and won't foster any resentment at all!Mar 24 17:48
schestowitzthey even hired mjg59's co-trollMar 24 17:48
schestowitzto troll as full-time staffMar 24 17:48
schestowitztrolling became a career for someMar 24 17:48
schestowitzappalling I knowMar 24 17:48
schestowitzSFC condemning FSF proves FSF did something rightMar 24 17:49
schestowitzSFC takes money from MicrosoftMar 24 17:49
schestowitzand breeds trollsMar 24 17:49
DaemonFC[m]What's abhorrent is treating people better based on being female and non-white.Mar 24 17:49
DaemonFC[m]Then telling white men who get angry that they're just a bunch of Neanderthals.Mar 24 17:49
DaemonFC[m]Do it yourself, earn what you have. Then you get respect.Mar 24 17:50
schestowitznot the pointMar 24 17:50
schestowitzthey do worse thingsMar 24 17:50
schestowitznot the outreachy thingMar 24 17:50
DaemonFC[m]Quit trying to short circuit the process, you know?Mar 24 17:50
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/11/03/the-harassment-claims-in-full/Mar 24 17:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Outreachy as ‘Hush Money’ (Bribe) From Monopolies | TechrightsMar 24 17:50
schestowitzbribery disguised as "being nice to women"Mar 24 17:50
Chaekyungwell, Europeans are a bunch of Neanderthals.Mar 24 17:50
schestowitzthat's like US Army bombingMar 24 17:50
schestowitz"for women"Mar 24 17:51
Chaekyungthat includes womenMar 24 17:51
DaemonFC[m]Outreachy is one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen in my life.Mar 24 17:51
schestowitzfor "women's rights"Mar 24 17:51
schestowitzeven hires a few women to do the bombinbMar 24 17:51
DaemonFC[m]They pretty much bankrupted GNOME and forced Red Hat to bail it out.Mar 24 17:51
DaemonFC[m]That was funny I guess.Mar 24 17:51
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/11/29/outreachy-explained-by-minority-female/Mar 24 17:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Sincere Thoughts About Outreachy | TechrightsMar 24 17:51
schestowitzeven women I correspond with complain about OutreachyMar 24 17:51
schestowitznot to mention those who mentored for Google http://techrights.org/2021/02/10/outreachy-coc-diversity-results-debian/Mar 24 17:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Does Outreachy and a Code of Conduct Increase Diversity? Case Study From Debian | TechrightsMar 24 17:52
schestowitzSFC is circling down the drain based on OBJECTIVESMar 24 17:52
schestowitzif they objective is raising money from monopolies, then goodMar 24 17:52
schestowitzFSFE and SFC will net that money as long as they're useful to themMar 24 17:52
schestowitzthen they'll dump themMar 24 17:52
ChaekyungDo you know where they score on the funding side of things?Mar 24 17:53
schestowitzBrad and Karen will need to find new careersMar 24 17:53
schestowitzmaybe 2-3 years leftMar 24 17:53
DaemonFC[m]There's not as big of a gender divide as there used to be, but professional trolls are trying to rip open old wounds and cost us 20 years of progress just so they have something to complain about, I think.Mar 24 17:53
schestowitzfor them to be "useful" to the sponsors (the money is not a gift; there are conditions)Mar 24 17:53
DaemonFC[m]Same as CNN and Fox News working the race thing from different angles.Mar 24 17:53
DaemonFC[m]Neither one of them telling the truth.Mar 24 17:53
schestowitzcorporate media has another agendaMar 24 17:53
schestowitzsimilar to Google's Mar 24 17:53
schestowitzrile up genders against one anotherMar 24 17:54
schestowitzthen the same for raceMar 24 17:54
schestowitznobody pays attention to Bezos making $7 million an hour TAX FREEMar 24 17:54
schestowitzbecause women hate menMar 24 17:54
schestowitzand men hate them back, and vice versaMar 24 17:54
schestowitzso who cares about that scrawny greedy dude?Mar 24 17:54
DaemonFC[m]CNN is talking about black people refusing the vaccine because they think they're being experimented on again, and then at the same time, "We opened a vaccine clinic to reduce inequality and then those horrible white people piled in to take the appointments that were going unfilled!".Mar 24 17:54
DaemonFC[m]Can you believe this shit?Mar 24 17:54
schestowitzbutMar 24 17:55
schestowitzlet me interjectMar 24 17:55
schestowitztheir grievance is based on half truthsMar 24 17:55
DaemonFC[m]I don't see any sort of cruel racist experimentation going on here.Mar 24 17:55
schestowitzbecause they DID and still DO get experimented onMar 24 17:55
ChaekyungThey show off a 2018 US 990 form on their about page, Software Freedom Conservancy makes 2.6 million, so 2.6x more than the FSF  https://sfconservancy.org/docs/conservancy_Form-990_fy-2017.pdfMar 24 17:55
schestowitzlike CIA using Polio vaccines to spy in PakistanMar 24 17:55
schestowitzand in turn you wonder why people reject the jabs?Mar 24 17:55
DaemonFC[m]The consent form basically says anyone who takes it is volunteering for an experiment, as there are no "fully approved" vaccines for COVID.Mar 24 17:56
schestowitzBill Gates did lots of vaccine experiments in Africa and IndiaMar 24 17:56
schestowitzeven illegal vaccines, not approved by FDA or similarMar 24 17:56
schestowitzin dodgy places with  no regulationMar 24 17:56
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DaemonFC[m]We're somewhere between Phase 2 and 3 clinical trials on the Pfizer one I took.Mar 24 17:56
*schestowitz gives voice to tr_guest|29109Mar 24 17:56
schestowitzPfizer has issueMar 24 17:56
schestowitzmany who take the first shot refuse to take the secondMar 24 17:56
schestowitzmaybe due to the reactionMar 24 17:56
schestowitzso they cannot even administer the second doseMar 24 17:57
schestowitzbut that's off topicMar 24 17:57
schestowitzback to the GNOME and SFC thingMar 24 17:57
DaemonFC[m]The CDC says <5%.Mar 24 17:57
DaemonFC[m]The second was actually better than the first one for me.Mar 24 17:57
schestowitzthanks for participatingMar 24 17:57
schestowitzplease report at the tillMar 24 17:57
DaemonFC[m]I did have labs drawn for something else though.Mar 24 17:57
schestowitzChaekyung: yes, lots of money passes through SFCMar 24 17:58
DaemonFC[m]I noticed that my Neutrophils were WAY up vs. usual, but still within normal range.Mar 24 17:58
schestowitzwe covered that in TR beforeMar 24 17:58
ChaekyungKaren M. Sandler $160,470Mar 24 17:58
Chaekyungnot bad for a years workMar 24 17:58
schestowitz"discount!"Mar 24 17:58
schestowitzin BaltimoreMar 24 17:59
schestowitzhow much is rent there?Mar 24 17:59
schestowitz$10 a year?Mar 24 17:59
schestowitzmaybe moreMar 24 17:59
DaemonFC[m]If you have to ask.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!Mar 24 17:59
DaemonFC[m]That's the rent in Baltimore.Mar 24 17:59
schestowitzdependent on their lifestyle demands?Mar 24 17:59
DaemonFC[m]Worse than Chicago.Mar 24 17:59
polezaivsaniDaemonFC[m]: res shithub, there http://shithub.us is actually a thing, as imo is way better than the thing you meant :)Mar 24 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-shithub.us | Shithub: the fragrant git hostMar 24 17:59
schestowitzbetter than shitholecountry.usMar 24 18:00
schestowitzseeing that MAGA nations now has people who no running waterMar 24 18:00
schestowitzhow classyMar 24 18:00
schestowitzand people have their homes raided for assetsMar 24 18:00
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DaemonFC[m]Maybe people don't try to buy a home or save for retirement because the hospital will go there to steal from you after they get the court order.Mar 24 18:04
DaemonFC[m]Just a thought.Mar 24 18:04
DaemonFC[m]There really ought to be a law that at least exempts "necessities of life" from garnishment by medical collectors.Mar 24 18:04
DaemonFC[m]This is barbaric. Mar 24 18:04
techrights-botToday in #Techrights • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149177 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 18:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesMar 24 18:06
schestowitzway to take ALL people's assets BACK from themMar 24 18:09
schestowitzemptying the coffers of the middle classMar 24 18:09
schestowitzunder the guise of "health" and "Safety" and "saving/protecting life"Mar 24 18:09
Ariadneschestowitz: remember when we used to dunk on icaza together on twitterMar 24 18:13
Ariadne:DMar 24 18:13
Ariadnetimes were so simpler back thenMar 24 18:13
schestowitzde icaza?Mar 24 18:13
AriadneyaMar 24 18:13
schestowitzhis buddy now runs the exploitation of freeswMar 24 18:14
schestowitzafter xamarin failedMar 24 18:14
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/10/11/nat-friedman-proprietary-software/Mar 24 18:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GitHub’s Nat Friedman Defended Proprietary Software at Novell, So Why Not at Microsoft? | TechrightsMar 24 18:15
techrights-bot#Security Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149178 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 18:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 24 18:25
techrights-botToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149179 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 18:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 24 18:25
techrights-bot#OpenHardware /Modding/Programming • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149180 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 18:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding/Programming | Tux MachinesMar 24 18:26
techrights-botLinks 24/3/2021: Krita 4.4.3, GNOME 40, and Stable Kernels • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/24/gnome-40/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/24/gnome-40/Mar 24 18:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 24/3/2021: Krita 4.4.3, GNOME 40, and Stable Kernels | TechrightsMar 24 18:26
XFaCEhttps://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.phpMar 24 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cjr.org | Journalism’s Gates keepers - Columbia Journalism ReviewMar 24 18:31
XFaCEschestowitz, you probably saw this beforeMar 24 18:31
MinceRhttps://full.pr0gramm.com/2021/02/15/d20be887631b3f0a.jpgMar 24 19:15
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DaemonFC[m]https://wgntv.com/news/pope-cuts-pay-for-cardinals-citing-pandemics-effect-on-vatican-budget/Mar 24 19:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Pope cuts pay for cardinals, citing pandemic’s effect on Vatican budget | WGN-TVMar 24 19:30
DaemonFC[m]https://wgntv.com/news/utah-governor-signs-divisive-measure-to-require-porn-filters-on-all-cellphones-and-tablets/Mar 24 19:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Utah governor signs divisive measure to require porn filters on all cellphones and tablets | WGN-TVMar 24 19:53
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superkuhOh Utah... you're so silly.Mar 24 20:00
superkuhAlso the state with the highest porn usage.Mar 24 20:00
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, they tried to shut down stores that sold it at various points too.Mar 24 20:11
DaemonFC[m]Then the hearing had to be shut down because one of the people trying to go after a particular shop for selling porn got the dirty movies he'd rented in his hotel room released under public records.Mar 24 20:11
DaemonFC[m]He'd paid for them with tax money I think.Mar 24 20:12
DaemonFC[m]Glad I pay sales and income tax so they can rent porn and stay in hotels while holding hearings on the public health threats of porn.Mar 24 20:13
DaemonFC[m]For everyone else, that is. Screams Governor Newsom and The French Laundry to me.Mar 24 20:13
DaemonFC[m]Fox News reported on a man in his 20s charged with rape and trespassing for "living under a teenaged girl's bed for three weeks" and "holding her down and forcing her to have sex with him". Like, they only mention rape as in the name of the criminal charge.Mar 24 20:17
DaemonFC[m]Then they go out of their way to inject the notion that he was really basically an inconvenience or something.Mar 24 20:17
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techrights-bot#Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149181 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 24 20:35
schestowitzXFaCE: I did see this beforeMar 24 20:36
XFaCEjust making sureMar 24 20:37
techrights-bot#qBittorrent 4.3.4 Drops Support for #Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, Supports Sub-Sorting in Transfer List • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149182 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | qBittorrent 4.3.4 Drops Support for Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, Supports Sub-Sorting in Transfer List | Tux MachinesMar 24 20:38
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techrights-bot#PinePhone Beta Edition goes up for pre-order http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149175#comment-28777 #gnu #linuxMar 24 20:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149175#comment-28777 )Mar 24 20:41
techrights-bot#GNOME 40 Linux desktop environment is here http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149170#comment-28778 #gnu #linuxMar 24 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 40 released | Tux MachinesMar 24 20:42
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techrights-botFor the second time in the same day the corrupt #EPO management tries to mislead the public about the unlawful referral with illegal composition of judges https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2021/20210324.html see http://techrights.org/2021/03/18/boa-rendered-kangaroo-court/Mar 24 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - Communiqué of 24 March 2021 on the oral proceedings before the Boards of Appeal by videoconferenceMar 24 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Patent Professionals Have Come to Realise That the EPO Boards of Appeal, Controlled by Office Management, Are Kangaroo Courts | TechrightsMar 24 20:51
techrights-botLatest on #Microsoft Exchange Server attacks: 'They're being hacked faster than we can count', says security company" Microsoft tried to blame Asians until a mass shooting against Asian-Americans. See http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/microsoft-blame-shifting-tactics/Mar 24 20:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Weaponises (and Further Spreads) Racism to Distract From Its Own Incompetence (and ‘Five Eyes’ Collusion for Back Door Access) | TechrightsMar 24 20:54
techrights-bot#OpenRazer 3.0.0 expands with many new Razer devices supported on Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149076#comment-28781 #linux #hardwareMar 24 20:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenRazer 3.0 Released For Supporting Many More Razer Peripherals Under Linux | Tux MachinesMar 24 20:57
techrights-bot#GNOME40 - The biggest update to GNOME since GNOME 3, and probably the best one http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149170#comment-28782 #gnu #linuxMar 24 21:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 40 released | Tux MachinesMar 24 21:01
techrights-bot#GOverlay gets another small release to help you manage tools like #MangoHud https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/03/goverlay-gets-another-small-release-to-help-you-manage-tools-like-mangohudMar 24 21:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GOverlay gets another small release to help you manage tools like MangoHud | GamingOnLinuxMar 24 21:02
DaemonFC[m]https://static01.nyt.com/images/2021/03/24/us/24virus-briefing-miami-covid19-2/merlin_185384736_95249165-191b-4c21-8ae5-e8e5dfae49ca-superJumbo.jpgMar 24 21:08
DaemonFC[m]Meanwhile, in Florida.Mar 24 21:08
schestowitzyes, well..Mar 24 21:19
schestowitznot our focusMar 24 21:19
techrights-bot#Games : Tangledeep, GOverlay, Ion Fury, Rolled Out! • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149183 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 21:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Tangledeep, GOverlay, Ion Fury, Rolled Out! | Tux MachinesMar 24 21:21
techrights-botToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149184 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 21:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 24 21:21
CrystalMatheveryone with github accounts, sign https://rms-support-letter.github.io/Mar 24 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rms-support-letter.github.io | An open letter in support of RMS. | An open letter in support of Richard Matthew Stallman being reinstated by the Free Software FoundationMar 24 21:23
superkuhBut it's github. :(Mar 24 21:27
techrights-bot#Manjaro 21.0 Ornara Comes Packed With #GNOME 3.38, KDE Plasma 5.21, Xfce 4.16 and Linux Kernel 5.10 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149139#comment-28784Mar 24 21:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manjaro Linux 21.0 "Ornara" Released with Linux 5.10 LTS, KDE Plasma 5.21, and Pamac 10 | Tux MachinesMar 24 21:53
techrights-bot#GNOME 40 Is Here With Radical Design Changes and Improvements to the Desktop Experience http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149170#comment-28785 #gnu #linuxMar 24 21:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 40 released | Tux MachinesMar 24 21:57
schestowitzsuperkuh: those petitions will be forgotten in a few daysMar 24 21:57
schestowitzlet's press onMar 24 21:57
schestowitzand cover newsMar 24 21:57
schestowitzthe real news was, RMS is backMar 24 21:57
schestowitz"and that's just how it us..."Mar 24 21:57
schestowitz*isMar 24 21:57
schestowitzbonusMar 24 21:58
schestowitzif we promote the pro-RMS pageMar 24 21:58
schestowitzwe make a sort of "fight"Mar 24 21:58
schestowitzor "competition"Mar 24 21:58
schestowitzpotentially egging on more people to feed the "kill the FSF" petitionMar 24 21:59
schestowitzif we mention neither, we move onMar 24 21:59
superkuhI agree.Mar 24 22:00
schestowitzjust imeMar 24 22:00
schestowitzimoMar 24 22:00
schestowitzexperience and opinionMar 24 22:00
schestowitzif we keep mentioning this stuff, it'll stay in people's mindMar 24 22:00
schestowitzand cause split, anger Mar 24 22:00
schestowitzit's divisiveMar 24 22:00
schestowitzI saw to more people this evening who wrote against himMar 24 22:00
schestowitzsame people who did the last timeMar 24 22:00
schestowitzit feels like "re-runs"Mar 24 22:01
schestowitzof sept. 2019Mar 24 22:01
schestowitzand the facts have in  facts not changed at allMar 24 22:01
schestowitzit's not about something he said or did in 2020-21Mar 24 22:01
schestowitzI upload a video right nowMar 24 22:01
schestowitzit's about EPO abuseMar 24 22:01
schestowitzmuch more important than a phony old "controversy" from 2 years agoMar 24 22:01
schestowitzalso, that's where all this rage/anger should be directedMar 24 22:02
schestowitznot some almost-70-year-old saying something poorly in an MIT internal mailing listMar 24 22:02
schestowitzweeks after a Bill Gates pedo scandal was making the media... because of MIT e-mailsMar 24 22:02
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/08/11/gates-mit-letter/Mar 24 22:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Proof (Archived Original Letter): Bill Gates Lied to the New Yorker, BBC and Others About Connection of MIT Money to Mr. Jeffrey Epstein and Their Close Relationship | TechrightsMar 24 22:03
schestowitz[18:31] <XFaCE> https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.phpMar 24 22:03
schestowitzbribery, not fundingMar 24 22:04
schestowitzhe did this to The VergeMar 24 22:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Resolving timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php )Mar 24 22:04
schestowitzhe does this when a paper criticises himMar 24 22:04
schestowitzand then they either delete it or never do it againMar 24 22:04
CrystalMathschestowitz: do you know a figofive?Mar 24 22:05
techrights-botRecognition of the fact, from #patent maximalists, that many granted #USPTO #patents are in fact fake and will learn to disappointment https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/03/senators-tillis-and-cotton-propose-sequenced-examination-approach.htmlMar 24 22:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Senators Tillis and Cotton Propose Sequenced Examination ApproachMar 24 22:05
techrights-botFOSS Patents: Component-level licensing of standard-essential patents most controversial subtopic of European Commission webinar on FRAND licensing and valuation ⇨ http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/03/component-level-licensing-of-standard.html see http://techrights.org/2020/07/10/frand-sep-scam/Mar 24 22:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Component-level licensing of standard-essential patents most controversial subtopic of European Commission webinar on FRAND licensing and valuationMar 24 22:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | European FRAND (Related to SEP) Proponent and Famed Programmer Comes to Realise That It’s Actually a “Scam” | TechrightsMar 24 22:07
schestowitzCrystalMath: noMar 24 22:07
techrights-botMore #fakepatents and #patentTrolls referred to #ptab and this one sounds, based on the description, like #swpats (the usual nonsense) https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/3/24/2000-awarded-for-sanderling-412-prior-artMar 24 22:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | $2,000 Awarded for Sanderling '412 prior art — Unified PatentsMar 24 22:09
CrystalMathschestowitz: he said he's affiliated with techrightsMar 24 22:11
schestowitzLOL zini http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149083#comment-28786Mar 24 22:11
schestowitzziniMar 24 22:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Good News! Richard Stallman is Back at Free Software Foundation | Tux MachinesMar 24 22:11
schestowitzthat a-holeMar 24 22:11
schestowitzafter lying about peopleMar 24 22:12
schestowitzthey have no shameMar 24 22:12
schestowitzCrystalMath: maybe figosdev?Mar 24 22:12
CrystalMathyes perhapsMar 24 22:12
CrystalMathi remember that nick somewhatMar 24 22:12
schestowitzwhy?Mar 24 22:14
schestowitzwhere?Mar 24 22:14
schestowitzis he back?Mar 24 22:14
CrystalMathhttps://wrongwithfreesw.neocities.org/olivas-crimes---in-defence-of-oliva.htmlMar 24 22:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wrongwithfreesw.neocities.org | everything wrong with free softwareMar 24 22:15
CrystalMathhe gave me thisMar 24 22:15
CrystalMathand leftMar 24 22:15
CrystalMathhe said that if i ask to contact him he will appearMar 24 22:15
techrights-botOh. NO, no! Not again, #itsfoss ... if you support FOSS, don't help #microsoft push #proprietarySoftware into Linux... it's also a #gnu #linux back doors via repos.Mar 24 22:15
CrystalMathkinda interesting, reminds me of Mr. X from the X filesMar 24 22:15
CrystalMathi just tape an X on my window and figosdev contacts me :PMar 24 22:16
techrights-botOf course #microsoft #zdnet is totally pushing Microsoft back doors into #gnu #linux and people should just #boycottZDNet http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNetMar 24 22:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - TechrightsMar 24 22:16
schestowitzCrystalMath: he keeps deleting his email accountsMar 24 22:17
CrystalMathyeah, really secretiveMar 24 22:17
schestowitzwhere did he contact you?Mar 24 22:18
schestowitzI know he's still aroundMar 24 22:18
schestowitzbut he broke up with everyoneMar 24 22:18
schestowitzand then he sort of wants to come backMar 24 22:18
schestowitzbut it would refute the breakup wishMar 24 22:18
schestowitzI think MinceR commenting on some dietary issue annoyed him greatlyMar 24 22:18
CrystalMathover PMs, he said he's been following me on this channelMar 24 22:19
schestowitzcorporate media 瑨灴⼺眯睷琮硵慭档湩獥漮杲港摯⽥㐱〹㌸挣浯敭瑮㈭㜸㜸Mar 24 22:19
schestowitzoopsMar 24 22:19
schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149083#comment-28787Mar 24 22:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Good News! Richard Stallman is Back at Free Software Foundation | Tux MachinesMar 24 22:19
schestowitz"Controversial programmer Richard Stallman returns to FSF board"Mar 24 22:19
schestowitzah, maybe over IRC logsMar 24 22:20
schestowitzwe have some lurkersMar 24 22:20
schestowitzok, upload finishedMar 24 22:20
schestowitzbbiab, need to write about EPOMar 24 22:20
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CrystalMathhttps://itwire.com/open-source/debian-to-vote-on-backing-stallman-s-ouster-as-an-organisation.htmlMar 24 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Debian ponders vote as an organisation on backing Stallman's ousterMar 24 22:30
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schestowitzwhy link directly?Mar 24 22:33
schestowitzthis is his 4th attack on RMSMar 24 22:33
schestowitznot so much 'journalism'Mar 24 22:33
schestowitzhe just hates RMSMar 24 22:33
schestowitzand mass tags everyoneMar 24 22:34
schestowitzhe even quotes people from MicrosoftMar 24 22:35
schestowitztrying to fuel the fireMar 24 22:35
schestowitzanyway, let's move onMar 24 22:35
schestowitzmaybe 5 debian devs complained about RMS in blogsMar 24 22:35
schestowitzmaybe a few more signedMar 24 22:35
schestowitzbut there are hundreds of devsMar 24 22:35
schestowitzthe vast majority had no interest in thisMar 24 22:35
MinceRdebian has "developers"? :>Mar 24 22:35
schestowitzlet's move to actual newsMar 24 22:35
schestowitzMinceR: molly de blancMar 24 22:35
schestowitzspreading for chris lambMar 24 22:35
schestowitzthe son of a british barristerMar 24 22:36
MinceRit must take a lot of skill and effort to delete rc scripts and copy what fedora doesMar 24 22:36
MinceRoh, and to attack RMSMar 24 22:36
schestowitzwho sends lawyers after people who expose some factsMar 24 22:36
schestowitzMinceR: well, debian used to be better, I thinkMar 24 22:36
schestowitzthe DD bar was loweredMar 24 22:36
MinceRindeed it used to beMar 24 22:36
schestowitzso people who never coded can become a ddMar 24 22:36
schestowitz(molly)Mar 24 22:36
MinceRpast tense :>Mar 24 22:36
schestowitzbbiabMar 24 22:37
schestowitzMinceR: can you help check my english?Mar 24 22:37
MinceRi can tryMar 24 22:37
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2021/03/24/unlawful-attacks-on-eba/Mar 24 22:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Management Bombards the ‘News’ Section to Distract From Unlawful Attacks on the EPO’s Highest Tribunal (This Time in G 1/21) | TechrightsMar 24 22:37
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polezaivsanire fsf nonminating bkuhn - http://techrights.org/2021/03/20/bradley-kuhn-fsf-award/ says they did the same for OpenBSD.  Can somebody shed some more lights on that instance?Mar 24 22:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why Does the FSF Keep Rewarding People Who Work Against the FSF’s Founder? | TechrightsMar 24 22:39
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schestowitzpolezaivsani: I asked yesterdayMar 24 22:40
*schestowitz gives voice to foss-advocateMar 24 22:40
schestowitzhave not checked email since yesterdayMar 24 22:40
schestowitzsfc (buhn) has again attacked FSFMar 24 22:41
foss-advocatehey folksMar 24 22:41
schestowitz"thanks for the award, FSF"Mar 24 22:41
MinceRi don't know if the word "pendency" exists, but it could be legal jargon for all i knowMar 24 22:41
schestowitz"now kill  yourself, FSF"Mar 24 22:41
schestowitzMinceR: it isMar 24 22:41
schestowitzspellcheckers don't like itMar 24 22:41
schestowitzfoss-advocate: huMar 24 22:41
schestowitzhiMar 24 22:41
foss-advocateI'm psymin.  I'd like to make an acct on techrights, also maybe to have voice :)Mar 24 22:41
schestowitznot a freudian slip, promise, MinceRMar 24 22:41
MinceR:)Mar 24 22:42
MinceRi don't know if "proceeds to defaming them" should be "proceeds to defame them"Mar 24 22:42
schestowitzyeah, will amendMar 24 22:42
schestowitzfoss-advocate: account for the blog?Mar 24 22:42
MinceRthat's all i've foundMar 24 22:42
schestowitzthanks!Mar 24 22:43
foss-advocateJust saw that I didn't have voice, so I thought I needed an acct on the website.  Made one for the wp site, but I guess that isn't it.  No biggie.Mar 24 22:43
MinceRnpMar 24 22:43
foss-advocateis there a reason psymin has no voice?Mar 24 22:43
*MinceR gives voice to psyminMar 24 22:43
psyminyay!Mar 24 22:43
MinceRhe left and joined recentlyMar 24 22:43
MinceRand we didn't noticeMar 24 22:43
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psyminSaw you posted about debian supporting RMS.  Thought that was an interesting bit of news.Mar 24 22:45
schestowitzI'm very open to articles about RMSMar 24 22:46
schestowitzbut I want not to spend much time on it myselfMar 24 22:46
schestowitzbbiabMar 24 22:46
schestowitzmy view is, let is slideMar 24 22:46
schestowitzpeople will move onMar 24 22:47
schestowitzRMS is now listed in the FSF's siteMar 24 22:47
schestowitzit's a done dealMar 24 22:47
schestowitzI want to focus on unresolved issuesMar 24 22:47
techrights-bot#EPO Management Bombards the ’News’ Section to Distract From Unlawful Attacks on the EPO’s Highest Tribunal (This Time in G 1/21) • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/24/unlawful-attacks-on-eba/ •●• #Techrights #europe #corruption gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/24/unlawful-attacks-on-eba/Mar 24 22:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Management Bombards the ‘News’ Section to Distract From Unlawful Attacks on the EPO’s Highest Tribunal (This Time in G 1/21) | TechrightsMar 24 22:48
schestowitzthe whole thing can be summarised as followsMar 24 22:48
schestowitzsome fools and misled people get angry at "old angry man" for something he said 2 years agoMar 24 22:48
*psymin nods.Mar 24 22:49
schestowitzthe real and sole news is, he came back to FSF, in a public roleMar 24 22:49
schestowitztechrights got 90k views on that articleMar 24 22:49
schestowitzhe gave an interesting talkMar 24 22:49
schestowitzabout some mobile OSesMar 24 22:49
schestowitznobody talks about his talkMar 24 22:50
schestowitzthey distract from the messageMar 24 22:50
schestowitzit's a methodMar 24 22:50
schestowitz"look at the beard"Mar 24 22:50
psyminmakes senseMar 24 22:50
schestowitz"he's not thin"Mar 24 22:50
schestowitz"he looks at her funny"Mar 24 22:50
DaemonFC[m]"People furiously complaining about RMS being excluded for social rather than technical reasons, while ignoring RMS excluding LLVM from GNU for social rather than technical reasons" -GarrettMar 24 22:55
psyminI'm curious about the LLVM issueMar 24 22:55
DaemonFC[m]A compiler that shits out buggy and poorly optimized code that was developed mostly as a way to bypass GPL. = SocialMar 24 22:55
psymin"Apache 2.0 License with LLVM exceptions" Hmm.Mar 24 22:56
DaemonFC[m]As the GNU compiler (at least for C) gets better, I haven't seen much of an argument for LLVM. It seems stagnant, at least the Clang part.Mar 24 22:56
DaemonFC[m]A program crashes when you build it with Clang and debugging it kills the debugger too long before you get to anything suspect.Mar 24 22:56
XRevan86Why would GNU need LLVM?Mar 24 22:56
DaemonFC[m]It doesn't.Mar 24 22:56
psyminsounds like a gpl3 issue?Mar 24 22:57
DaemonFC[m]The dynamic code generation capabilities of LLVM are useful in certain contexts.Mar 24 22:57
DaemonFC[m]But it's not something where you'd want to compile your whole OS with it using Clang or something and then ship it.Mar 24 22:57
MinceRwhat does "excluding LLVM from GNU" even mean? what effects does it have, if any?Mar 24 22:57
DaemonFC[m]Because then you'd be dealing with more bugs and worse performance and no clue as to how to support your users.Mar 24 22:57
psydroidI always run out of memory with clang, even with a single threadMar 24 22:57
DaemonFC[m]Apparently, that's fine with OpenMandriva, and more "Linux" people are pushing it too.Mar 24 22:58
psymindo the llvm exceptions honor the four software freedoms?Mar 24 22:58
DaemonFC[m]Why not? They push GNOME and SystemD.Mar 24 22:58
DaemonFC[m]In for a penny, in for a pound.Mar 24 22:58
DaemonFC[m]GNOME....It's fucking horrible. But just in case you get any funny ideas, tosses Wayland in like a grenade we'll break KDE too....Mar 24 22:59
DaemonFC[m]-Red HatMar 24 22:59
DaemonFC[m]Some dumbasses got together and decided to write a shell that's worse than Windows 10 Explorer. (GNOME)Mar 24 23:00
psyminRMS's objection to LLVM licensing sounds reasonableMar 24 23:00
schestowitzoh wowMar 24 23:00
schestowitzI left for a momentMar 24 23:00
schestowitzand we have a meaningful conversationMar 24 23:00
schestowitzabout the real issuesMar 24 23:00
schestowitzand what makes people angry at RMSMar 24 23:00
DaemonFC[m]Someone said you couldn't write a display setup that was more terrible than DWM+GDI.Mar 24 23:00
psyminoh, schestowitz is back, time to log out ;)Mar 24 23:00
DaemonFC[m]Red Hat said hold my beer.Mar 24 23:00
MinceRi think the cupertino mafia already didMar 24 23:00
schestowitzwhat did LLVM say in MIT mailing lists 2 years ago? :-pMar 24 23:01
DaemonFC[m]Oh, I just tell most people to use Kubuntu these days if they want something that installs and stays working. The LTS version!Mar 24 23:01
MinceRewMar 24 23:01
DaemonFC[m]At least that one is conservative enough that they can actually stop and fix glitches when the latest broken crap lands in the upstream (from IBM, by way of Debian).Mar 24 23:02
MinceRthey didn't, thoughMar 24 23:02
DaemonFC[m]As it pertains to the desktop, which is what the user interacts with.Mar 24 23:02
MinceRthey didn't stop kde4.0 and they didn't stop systemdMar 24 23:02
MinceRi actually moved from *ubuntu to debian to get away from kde4 for a whileMar 24 23:02
psyminI'm unfamiliar with the kerfuffle with kde4.0, but I also have to goMar 24 23:03
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "what did LLVM say in MIT mailing"> Oh, you can hate Clang for lots of reasons before you even touch the licensing of it and LLVM or the "politics".Mar 24 23:03
MinceRkde4.0 was a half-baked non-release and the kde people said soMar 24 23:03
MinceRkubuntu jumped on it as soon as they couldMar 24 23:03
DaemonFC[m]It's a centerpiece example of how companies will dump resources into something that works worse than an existing solution to bypass GPL though.Mar 24 23:03
psyminI am familiar with some annoying upgrade paths with kde Mar 24 23:03
MinceRbut then, it turned out the kde people were never interested in actually fixing kde4Mar 24 23:03
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MinceR4.3 was advertised as "finally stable and as good as 3.5"Mar 24 23:04
schestowitzI still use kde4 on one laptopMar 24 23:04
MinceRit was neitherMar 24 23:04
*psymin waves.Mar 24 23:04
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schestowitz4.5 maybeMar 24 23:04
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DaemonFC[m]KDE in Fedora is in even worse shape now than when KDE 4.0.2 (I think) landed.Mar 24 23:04
*MinceR gives voice to GNUmoon2Mar 24 23:04
DaemonFC[m]Considering that there hasn't even been a major rewrite of anything in KDE lately, that tells you it's purely because of changes to the underlying OS and the fact that nobody is adapting KDE to the changes for the Fedora release it winds up in.Mar 24 23:05
DaemonFC[m]So this goes well beyond hold onto your hat.Mar 24 23:05
MinceRhold onto your red hatMar 24 23:05
MinceRalso, if you expect fedora to have stable releases, the joke's on youMar 24 23:05
MinceRsame if you expect any other systemd distro to have stable releasesMar 24 23:06
DaemonFC[m]Yes, it's too unstable to depend on for a matter of days or weeks now.Mar 24 23:06
DaemonFC[m]Don't even consider months or years.Mar 24 23:06
XRevan86It's a pity Biden rejected Putin's offer on making debates.Mar 24 23:06
MinceRwhat point would have been there to it?Mar 24 23:06
DaemonFC[m]It's not even worth spinning it up in a virtual machine unless you're a tech review blog who wants to point out that Fedora with KDE is falling apart.Mar 24 23:06
XRevan86I would've loved to see Putin debating with anyone who doesn't depend on him.Mar 24 23:07
DaemonFC[m]Which most of them have done already.Mar 24 23:07
MinceRwell, i guess putler would have done it like his puppy orban didMar 24 23:07
XRevan86MinceR: Huge entertainment value.Mar 24 23:07
MinceRdo it a few times and then never againMar 24 23:07
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I don't understand how it all fits together, the people packaging it don't, the people writing it don't either.Mar 24 23:07
DaemonFC[m]At least there's something we all have in common.Mar 24 23:08
MinceRdebating is too much of an intellectual exertion for our nazis to do with anyoneMar 24 23:08
techrights-bot"This license introduces a time-delay for the commercial use of its code for “up to two years”. After this, the code will remain as an open-source GPL license allowing other projects to build upon it."https://www.coinspeaker.com/uniswap-version-3-launch/Mar 24 23:08
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MinceR(also, they've lost every debate they've had)Mar 24 23:08
techrights-bot"This license introduces a time-delay for the commercial use of its code for “up to two years”. After this, the code will remain as an open-source GPL license allowing other projects to build upon it."https://www.coinspeaker.com/uniswap-version-3-launch/Mar 24 23:08
XRevan86MinceR: I think Biden might've thought that Putin has an ace in his sleeve, but it's hard to imagine.Mar 24 23:08
MinceRnovichok?Mar 24 23:09
XRevan86hahMar 24 23:09
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The clinic in Hong Kong that posted a side by side comparison of the Chinese vaccine that Orban bought for you guys and the Pfizer one, and then recommended the Pfizer one, got shut down by the government.Mar 24 23:09
DaemonFC[m]Then the PRC Puppet, Carrie Lam, said there was nothing wrong with the Chinese one.Mar 24 23:09
MinceR:>Mar 24 23:09
XRevan86This reminds me of the famous Lyubov Sobol' v. Xenia Sobchak debates.Mar 24 23:09
MinceRi've heard the khuilo didn't dare disclose which vaccine he gotMar 24 23:09
DaemonFC[m]Then the PRC says "There's some problems with the Pfizer lids and none of you can have the Pfizer one now.".Mar 24 23:09
techrights-bot#AMD : Radeon, EPYC, Gallium3D • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149185 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 24 23:10
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XRevan86MinceR: Pieskov said it's one of the three Russian ones.Mar 24 23:10
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Communists would never lie to you.Mar 24 23:10
DaemonFC[m]:DMar 24 23:10
MinceRlolMar 24 23:10
XRevan86it's probably KoviVak.Mar 24 23:10
MinceRhe's a nazi, not a communistMar 24 23:10
MinceRnot much of a difference, though :>Mar 24 23:10
DaemonFC[m]COFEFEVACMar 24 23:10
MinceRjust different gods and symbolsMar 24 23:10
DaemonFC[m]ERRR COVFEFEVAC, that would be, I guess.Mar 24 23:10
MinceRXRevan86: does pieskov have evidence for that?Mar 24 23:11
DaemonFC[m]Operation Warp Speed.Mar 24 23:11
XRevan86MinceR: He's Putin's mouth.Mar 24 23:11
MinceRi'm sure there are many people for whom that is evidenceMar 24 23:11
MinceRbut i am not one of those people :>Mar 24 23:11
DaemonFC[m]This is very much a politicized vaccine now. Trump tried stealing all the credit for it, and he got Republicans saying thank god there's vaccines now, god bless you President Trump.Mar 24 23:11
XRevan86MinceR: Fair.Mar 24 23:11
DaemonFC[m]Then Biden got in and the Republicans go "ONE PERSON IN THE COUNTRY DIED AFTER GETTING IT!!! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!".Mar 24 23:12
MinceRis pieskov derived from polish pies? :>Mar 24 23:12
XRevan86MinceR: Piesok – sandMar 24 23:12
DaemonFC[m]Vaccine approved by tweet. Right after threatening to fire the FDA commissioners.Mar 24 23:12
MinceR:>Mar 24 23:12
XRevan86Mr. SandmanMar 24 23:13
DaemonFC[m]Republicans go "This is cutting red tape. Those people take forever to decide anything anyway!".Mar 24 23:13
MinceR"i hate sand. it's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere."Mar 24 23:13
DaemonFC[m]Not, "Gee, there might be a lot of data to pour over!". Drugs that go through the normal process can end up like Celebrex, Vioxx, and Darvocet. Mar 24 23:13
DaemonFC[m]And that's the one that has the full testing involved.Mar 24 23:14
XRevan86MinceR: Thing is, KoviVak is an inactivated virus type of vaccine, I wouldn't be surprised if Putin trusts that enough to make a shot.Mar 24 23:14
DaemonFC[m]This vaccine program is running like Microsoft.Mar 24 23:14
MinceRhe's a fool, thenMar 24 23:14
XRevan86and it's rolls out this week, so that's one fun coincidenceMar 24 23:14
techrights-bot#microsoft -sponsored #sdtimes : "The free software community calls for the removal of entire FSF board" - This title is a lie. It's just a vocal minority making noise at Microsoft's GitHub. #proprietarySoftware #usefulIdiotsMar 24 23:14
DaemonFC[m]We're basically sending out Windows Insider Builds with Full Telemetry.Mar 24 23:14
XRevan86s/it's/it/Mar 24 23:14
MinceRwhen the objective of vaccine production is political games and political posturing, one can't really trust that they've actually managed to inactivate all the virions, when they're not under really close scrutiny by outsidersMar 24 23:15
techrights-botFor those who think #discord has something to offer to #microsoft or vice versa... I have only one word: MIXER.Mar 24 23:16
DaemonFC[m]Is it the right way to gain data? Sure. Is it the right thing to do? Well, I had a hard decision to make. As does everyone who sees the COVID disaster unfolding, which I might add could have been slowed down at least 90%, buying us time to figure out what we were dealing with a bit more.Mar 24 23:16
DaemonFC[m]But we ran cruise ships and airline flights until the last possible second, and then for a few weeks after that. Now you get what you get.Mar 24 23:16
XRevan86MinceR: I'm sure they worked extra hard on his shotMar 24 23:16
MinceRi have two more words about that: skype, teamsMar 24 23:16
DaemonFC[m]Roy's dealing with a similar mess over where he lives.Mar 24 23:16
MinceRXRevan86: i hope they put polonium in itMar 24 23:17
MinceRit's his own medicine, after allMar 24 23:17
XRevan86MinceR: Or a placebo :DMar 24 23:17
XRevan86Putin, your luck, you're in our placebo group!Mar 24 23:17
MinceR"if you can't force people to use your product, just buy the product they are using willingly"Mar 24 23:17
MinceRXRevan86: "You're not part of the control group, by the way."Mar 24 23:18
techrights-bot#suse shilling for #microsoft again https://www.suse.com/c/microsoft-sql-server-on-suse-linux-enterprise-server-new-suse-best-practices/ see http://techrights.org/2020/08/05/suse-is-still-helping-microsoft/Mar 24 23:19
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XRevan86Anyway, even though Biden rejected, Putin can still accept Musk's offer!Mar 24 23:19
schestowitzhttp://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=9960Mar 24 23:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-savannah.gnu.org | GNU Chinese Translators Team - News: Letter to support RMS [Savannah]Mar 24 23:19
schestowitz"Mar 24 23:19
schestowitzDear FSF, Mar 24 23:19
schestowitzI write this letter to support Dr. Richard Stallman as a board member of FSF. Mar 24 23:19
schestowitzDr. Richard Stallman has been a strong leader in Free Software Movement ever since the beginning of free software. He has been always thinking from the free software point of view, and has been constantly promoting free software and free software community. This is what we need in Free Software Foundation. This is what we need to inspire people to work for the goal of Free Software Foundation. Mar 24 23:19
schestowitzI am expecting Dr. Richard Stall to do his best in FSF and wish him all the best. Mar 24 23:19
schestowitzbest regards, Mar 24 23:19
schestowitzwxieMar 24 23:19
schestowitz"Mar 24 23:20
schestowitzChina's GNU communityMar 24 23:20
schestowitzand translatorMar 24 23:20
XFaCEI saw one Github user open a pull request to wipe the petition.Mar 24 23:20
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MinceR:)Mar 24 23:20
techrights-bot#GNU Chinese Translators Team firmly behind RMS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149083#comment-28790 #freesw #rms #fsfMar 24 23:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Good News! Richard Stallman is Back at Free Software Foundation | Tux MachinesMar 24 23:21
XRevan86I have a feeling my Lyubov Sobol' v. Xenia Sobchak debate reference was not understood.Mar 24 23:22
MinceRit's probably not that well knownMar 24 23:23
DaemonFC[m]Well, my immune system seemed to be cranking a lot of antibodies out 14 days after my first shot.Mar 24 23:23
XFaCEBased on what exactly?Mar 24 23:23
DaemonFC[m]It stands to reason that it would be due to the vaccine.Mar 24 23:23
XFaCEDid you get tested for antibodies?Mar 24 23:23
DaemonFC[m]<XFaCE "Based on what exactly?"> A complete blood count.Mar 24 23:23
XFaCEthxMar 24 23:24
XRevan86MinceR: Ah, I misremembered, wrong debates :)Mar 24 23:24
DaemonFC[m]It says what types of antibodies and what those counts are. Mar 24 23:24
DaemonFC[m]The ones that go after viral infections are running at about double the normal level.Mar 24 23:24
DaemonFC[m]Probably more than that now.Mar 24 23:24
XRevan86Lyubov Sobol' v. Valeria Kasamara debates – theseMar 24 23:25
MinceRwell, i don't recognize either of those namesMar 24 23:25
DaemonFC[m]They're discouraging people from taking long term antibody tests specific to COVID to verify that the shot worked.Mar 24 23:25
MinceRwhy?Mar 24 23:25
XRevan86https://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/05/01/bok-bok and that, in EnglishMar 24 23:26
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DaemonFC[m]They say we need ones that specifically detect the one for the spike protein, but in theory, most of the existing tests for identifying past infections should return positive results for vaccine induced antibodies to the spike protein.Mar 24 23:26
XRevan86MinceR: Then that, Alexei Navalny v. Maria Zakharova :)Mar 24 23:26
XRevan86She's the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, by the way.Mar 24 23:27
techrights-botSome parts of #redhat web site suffer downtime at the moment. Earlier today many services of #fedora were also down. Too much outsourcing?Mar 24 23:27
DaemonFC[m]The antibodies from the ones that produce spike protein are going to be somewhat different than the ones that are a result of natural disease or live inactivated SARS-CoV-2, because you'd be exposed to the entirety of the virus.Mar 24 23:27
DaemonFC[m]With the latter.Mar 24 23:27
MinceRXRevan86: lolMar 24 23:27
DaemonFC[m]The point of immunity to the spike protein is that's what the virus is coated with and having your immune system recognize and destroy it would destroy the virus itself.Mar 24 23:28
MinceRso that's where fidSS members learned the whole approach to debates fromMar 24 23:28
XRevan86MinceR: So maybe Putin wanted the debates like Zakharova did :)Mar 24 23:28
psydroid<TechrightsBot-tr "techrights.org | SUSE is Still P"> Was this their goal all along ever since they started? To fool enough people to let them think it was about community while building up fairly easily monetisable value and sell it to the highest bidder (mainly Microsoft-connected companies)?Mar 24 23:28
XRevan86- Let's debate.Mar 24 23:28
XRevan86- O.K.Mar 24 23:28
XRevan86- OH SH~~… err, um, why you decline, you jerk!Mar 24 23:28
DaemonFC[m]Being just the spike protein has the advantage of "a lab fuck-up can't accidentally leave the virus intact", like MinceR pointed out is a weakness in the vaccines from India and China.Mar 24 23:28
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: And KoviVakMar 24 23:29
MinceRand from russia, as far as inactivated/weakened virus vaccines go :>Mar 24 23:29
DaemonFC[m]I've heard of some fuck-ups in the US at the vaccination sites. The Army accidentally injected some people with the Regeneron Monoclonal Antibodies.Mar 24 23:29
DaemonFC[m]Nobody knows what happens, but they're being "monitored" now.Mar 24 23:30
techrights-bot" #gitLab provides built-in integration of coverage information allowing for example reviewers to check if a MR is changing tested code or if it's increasing or decreasing the total coverage of the project." https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2021/03/24/rust-integrating-llvm-source-base-code-coverage-with-gitlab/Mar 24 23:30
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XRevan86There's Sputnik V which is an adenovirus vector, EpiVacCorona which is peptide antigens magic stuff and KoviVak/CoviVac.Mar 24 23:30
DaemonFC[m]Then a Kroger grocery store pharmacy accidentally gave some people a saline injection with no vaccine, and they called those people back for the vaccine.Mar 24 23:30
DaemonFC[m]<XRevan86 "There's Sputnik V which is an ad"> Yes, Sputnik V and J&J sound pretty similar.Mar 24 23:31
MinceRlol, placeboMar 24 23:31
DaemonFC[m]Mom insisted on J&J because she doesn't want to come back for another dose if the first one makes her sick.Mar 24 23:31
MinceRthere's a big difference between Sputnik V and J&J, thoughMar 24 23:31
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Isn't AstraZeneca also based on that principle?Mar 24 23:31
techrights-botA lot of people do not speak out publicly in favour of RMS because the foaming-at-the-mouth "cancel mob" would accuse them of guilt by association ("you're sexist" etc.). Mobs are the real toxic thing, not RMS.Mar 24 23:31
DaemonFC[m]<XRevan86 "DaemonFC: Isn't AstraZeneca also"> Adenovirus vector? Yeah.Mar 24 23:31
MinceRJ&J dared to actually have their vaccine and quality control examined by independent authorities like the EMAMar 24 23:31
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Sputnik V is a two-dose vaccine.Mar 24 23:31
XRevan86But there's Sputnik V Lite, which is a one-dose version :DMar 24 23:32
DaemonFC[m]<XRevan86 "DaemonFC: Sputnik V is a two-dos"> Well, J&J probably would have more efficacy as a two-dose vaccine.Mar 24 23:32
XRevan86I'm not making this up.Mar 24 23:32
MinceRfor Sputnik V, we're supposed to just take the word of people like viktor orbanMar 24 23:32
DaemonFC[m]But politicians are leaning on them to get people "acceptably" vaccinated.Mar 24 23:32
MinceRwho was not even a medical doctor the last time i checkedMar 24 23:32
DaemonFC[m]Even if it's not the best possible protection.Mar 24 23:32
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Well, the trick for two doses is that there's a need for two adenoviruses, right?Mar 24 23:32
DaemonFC[m]Yes, Sputnik V uses Ad5 and Ad26.Mar 24 23:33
DaemonFC[m]The two shots are different.Mar 24 23:33
XRevan86Yea, so J&J can't really be a two-dose vaccine without some carrier changes.Mar 24 23:33
DaemonFC[m]J&J went with Ad26 only because it's being pitched as one dose.Mar 24 23:33
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Do you know what AstraZeneca uses?Mar 24 23:34
DaemonFC[m]If Sputnik V used exactly the same product in each dose, you might be immune to the vaccine itself when you came back.Mar 24 23:34
DaemonFC[m]ChAdOx1Mar 24 23:35
MinceRi wonder what's the long term plan about theseMar 24 23:35
DaemonFC[m](Chimpanzee Adenovirus)Mar 24 23:35
DaemonFC[m]For the AZ one.Mar 24 23:35
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Just one?Mar 24 23:35
DaemonFC[m]<MinceR "i wonder what's the long term pl"> Probably just keep using different cold bugs.Mar 24 23:35
MinceRyou get to have an Ad5 and an Ad26 vaccine once in your life, and then you look for vaccines based on other vectors?Mar 24 23:35
DaemonFC[m]There's literally no end to them, right?Mar 24 23:35
techrights-botRed Hat petitioner (IBM employee): I am disgusted at RMS, he's sexist and racist and stuff, just ignore my employer having as its SECOND-LARGEST client a regime that was gassing gays for being gay and being run by sexists who sexually assaulted women (the Watsons).Mar 24 23:35
DaemonFC[m]Start cycling them after immunity to the Adenovirus would have definitely worn off in the targeted population.Mar 24 23:36
DaemonFC[m]Say every 5-6 years.Mar 24 23:36
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Wanna see something really weird?Mar 24 23:36
MinceRand every time you risk your immune system going after the vector instead of what was intendedMar 24 23:36
DaemonFC[m]There's a number of possibilities here.Mar 24 23:36
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://life.ru/p/1386890Mar 24 23:36
techrights-botThe 10 Unix-Based Operating Systems That Aren’t Linux • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149186 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #UNIX #BSDMar 24 23:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 10 Unix-Based Operating Systems That Aren’t Linux | Tux MachinesMar 24 23:36
DaemonFC[m]The Adenovirus vector can't reproduce and they use "common cold" ones to begin with anyway just to be sure you'd be okay.Mar 24 23:37
MinceR>macOSMar 24 23:37
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/xtratricky/status/1374771749183746052Mar 24 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@xtratricky: The week started with Richard Stallman announcing his return to the Free Software Foundation… https://t.co/v8yNXkYmvQMar 24 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@xtratricky: The week started with Richard Stallman announcing his return to the Free Software Foundation… https://t.co/v8yNXkYmvQMar 24 23:38
schestowitz"Mar 24 23:38
schestowitzThe week started with Richard Stallman announcing his return to the Free Software Foundation http://techrights.org/2021/03/21/richard-stallman-is-coming-back-to-the-board-of-the-free-software-foundation-founded-by-himself-35-years-ago/Mar 24 23:38
schestowitz and I quickly started seeing rehashes of the exchanges from 18 months ago when he left (officially he resigned, we all know that is often with minimal volition)Mar 24 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman is Coming Back to the Board of the Free Software Foundation, Founded by Himself 35 Years Ago (Updatedx3) | TechrightsMar 24 23:38
schestowitz"Mar 24 23:38
MinceRah yes, the OS that respects the Unix principles so closelyMar 24 23:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1374763895315906566Mar 24 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: Lunduke (ex-Microsoft): In Defense of Richard Stallman https://t.co/UBBDW9pszMMar 24 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Lunduke (ex-Microsoft): In Defense of Richard Stallman | TechrightsMar 24 23:38
MinceR>DarwinMar 24 23:38
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]:  That is said by the head of the Gamaleya Research Institute Alexander Ginzburg.Mar 24 23:38
MinceR"i would have included macOS 10 times on this list of 10 if i could have gotten away with it!"Mar 24 23:38
XRevan86the one that developed Sputnik VMar 24 23:38
DaemonFC[m]<MinceR "ah yes, the OS that respects the"> They have kill -9 on the multimedia daemon when it hangs itself pretty closely copied from modern Linux I'd say.Mar 24 23:38
DaemonFC[m]At least according to JWZ.Mar 24 23:38
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DaemonFC[m]Also, random garbage from the video driver on resume from standby.Mar 24 23:39
MinceR>Tru64 Unix  >screenshot of CDE  >Cons: It lacks a graphical UI which is indeed a negative side for most users.Mar 24 23:39
MinceRwtfMar 24 23:39
*schestowitz gives voice to stallmansupporteMar 24 23:39
schestowitzhi, stallmansupporteMar 24 23:39
XRevan86> Re-vaccination against coronavirus with Sputnik V is not only not prohibited, but it may even be more effective than the initial oneMar 24 23:39
MinceRwhat a garbage articleMar 24 23:40
DaemonFC[m]There's no GUI. Here's a screenshot of the GUI!Mar 24 23:40
MinceRexactlyMar 24 23:40
DaemonFC[m]CDE is even open source now.Mar 24 23:40
DaemonFC[m]Hasn't been maintained in a very long time.Mar 24 23:40
MinceR25 003851 <+DaemonFC[m]> <MinceR "ah yes, the OS that respects the"> They have kill -9 on the multimedia daemon when it hangs itself pretty closely copied from modern Linux I'd say.Mar 24 23:40
MinceRyes, but that "modern Linux" is not UnixMar 24 23:40
MinceRor Unix-based, or Unix-likeMar 24 23:41
schestowitzit's not a a very good siteMar 24 23:41
stallmansupportewhy does techrights.org not have a SSL cert ? is this on purpose and what is the benefit of not securing the urlMar 24 23:41
schestowitzbut it's detailedMar 24 23:41
schestowitzand they put a lot of work into their articlesMar 24 23:41
MinceRi doubt they put a lot of work into this oneMar 24 23:41
schestowitzmaybe not this oneMar 24 23:41
MinceRliterally looking at that last entry would have tipped them off that something is seriously wrong thereMar 24 23:41
XFaCEnot having ssl by default can make the site compatible with older browsers and operating systemsMar 24 23:42
techrights-botA referral regarding “oral proceedings by videoconference in examination and opposition during pendency of referral” is yet another example of rigged legal processes at the #EPO • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/24/unlawful-attacks-on-eba/ •●• #Techrights #europe #corruption gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/24/unlawful-attacks-on-eba/Mar 24 23:42
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XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: To me that statement is pure gold, because that begs the question: if that is the case, why isn't Sputnik V using the same carrier for both doses?Mar 24 23:42
schestowitz[23:42] <XFaCE> not having ssl by default can make the site compatible with older browsers and operating systemsMar 24 23:42
schestowitzoppositeMar 24 23:43
XRevan86schestowitz: You probably misreadMar 24 23:43
schestowitzthe cert versions upwards tradeill already means an old android device cannot access many sitesMar 24 23:43
schestowitzjust because of some shoddy certsMar 24 23:43
XRevan86schestowitz: https://letsencrypt.org/2020/12/21/extending-android-compatibility.htmlMar 24 23:43
schestowitzXRevan86: I think I did ^_^Mar 24 23:43
XFaCEI agree with XRevan86, think you got my statement backwardsMar 24 23:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-letsencrypt.org | Extending Android Device Compatibility for Let's Encrypt Certificates - Let's Encrypt - Free SSL/TLS CertificatesMar 24 23:43
schestowitzeven for read-only sitesMar 24 23:44
stallmansupportehi @schestowitzMar 24 23:44
schestowitzI saw android devices just half a decade oldMar 24 23:44
XFaCESo long as Jim Hall can access the site in Arachine, all is right with the world.Mar 24 23:44
schestowitzwith no support for "new" certsMar 24 23:44
schestowitzXFaCE: planned obsolescenceMar 24 23:44
schestowitztoss it in the landfillMar 24 23:44
schestowitzdon't be "stingy"Mar 24 23:44
XRevan86schestowitz: That's how old my device is!Mar 24 23:45
schestowitzXRevan86: rianne has an old android deviceMar 24 23:45
XFaCEFortunately I've avoided that paradigmMar 24 23:45
schestowitzit's not connected to a mobile networkMar 24 23:45
schestowitzit's almost a decade oldMar 24 23:45
XRevan86But I've patched the certificates. Let's Encrypt certificates would work regardless.Mar 24 23:45
stallmansupporteThank you all for answering my question regarding sslMar 24 23:45
XFaCEBryan Lunduke made a video regarding that actuallyMar 24 23:46
XRevan86stallmansupporte: Sorry, it's an old issue that still hasn't been addressed.Mar 24 23:46
schestowitzbut that's not the reasonMar 24 23:46
schestowitzthe reason is, our OS would need many changes to allow certbot and other things to be properly addedMar 24 23:46
XRevan86techrights has been using old software for that, that's being changed though.Mar 24 23:46
schestowitzslowlyMar 24 23:46
XRevan86s/for that/for a while/Mar 24 23:46
techrights-bot"In late August last year, to support the transition of Firefox for Android from the old engine (fennec) to the new one (fenix), we officially introduced a tool that we build in-house called the Respond Tool to support the Play Store Support campaign." https://blog.mozilla.org/sumo/2021/03/24/play-store-support-program-updates/Mar 24 23:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Play Store Support Program Updates – The Mozilla Support BlogMar 24 23:47
XFaCEAnd this is why one uses F-Droid and Fennec F-DroidMar 24 23:48
XRevan86It's funny to see even Mozilla abandoning the "Daylight" branding.Mar 24 23:49
XRevan86absolutely no one picked that upMar 24 23:49
XFaCESo much that I've no idea what that is referring toMar 24 23:49
XRevan86Absolutely everyone who wants to make that distinction uses the development codename Fenix and not the marketing name Firefox DaylightMar 24 23:50
XFaCEDaylight is akin to what Debian calls Testing?Mar 24 23:50
XRevan86XFaCE: Just as the desktop version after removing lots of XUL was called Quantum, the Android version after the rewrite was called Daylight.Mar 24 23:50
techrights-bot"Linaro’s #96Boards specification was first introduced in 2015 with the launch of Hikey SBC following 96Boards CE specification, which CE standing for Consumer Edition." https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/03/24/96boards-consumer-edition-specification-v2-0-adds-ethernet-pcie-expansion-connectors/Mar 24 23:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | 96Boards Consumer Edition Specification v2.0 adds Ethernet, PCIe, expansion connectorsMar 24 23:51
XRevan86except that long before that the development branch was called Fenix, and so was the appid – org.mozilla.fenix (now that's used for Firefox Nightly).Mar 24 23:51
XFaCEWhat's the next version, Feni?Mar 24 23:52
XFaCEThen Fen?Mar 24 23:52
XFaCEFe?Mar 24 23:52
XFaCEF?Mar 24 23:52
DaemonFC[m]That's what Mozilla has become.Mar 24 23:52
XRevan86The Android version codename in general is Fennec, after https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fennec_foxMar 24 23:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Fennec fox - WikipediaMar 24 23:53
DaemonFC[m]Deadend projects, SJW, and codenames that nobody understands.Mar 24 23:53
techrights-botHow the #Apache Project Boosted the #FreeSw Movement http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149187#comment-28791Mar 24 23:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Apache® Software Foundation Celebrates 22 Years of Open Source Innovation "The Apache Way" | Tux MachinesMar 24 23:53
XRevan86The rewrite got called Fenix possibly as a combination of Fennec and phoenix (allusion to the original name of Firefox and something about rebirth probably)Mar 24 23:53
XRevan86Anyway, my point is, marketing made up a brand name and it didn't even live past one blogpost.Mar 24 23:54
XRevan86and the developer's codename is what everyone uses.Mar 24 23:54
techrights-bot#riscv in #india http://www.itnewsonline.com/PRNewswire/Valtrix-and-Codasip-Cooperate-on-Verification-of-RISC-V-Systems/741711Mar 24 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itnewsonline.com | Valtrix and Codasip Cooperate on Verification of RISC-V SystemsMar 24 23:54
techrights-botThe #Apache Software Foundation Celebrates 22 Years of Open Source Innovation "The Apache Way" • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149187 #asf #freeswMar 24 23:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Apache® Software Foundation Celebrates 22 Years of Open Source Innovation "The Apache Way" | Tux MachinesMar 24 23:55
XRevan86https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/03/24/alexey-navalny-s-health-is-deteriorating-in-prison-his-lawyer-saysMar 24 23:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLEMar 24 23:55
techrights-bot#FLOSSWeekly 622: Keith Packard - Freedesktop, X System https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/622 apropos: Keith Packard: Richard Stallman Was Right (About the GPL) http://techrights.org/2020/09/18/keith-packard-on-rms/Mar 24 23:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-twit.tv | Keith PackardMar 24 23:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Keith Packard: Richard Stallman Was Right (About the GPL) | TechrightsMar 24 23:58
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