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| schestowitz__ | it's old news | Feb 28 00:00 |
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| schestowitz__ | those are useless | Feb 28 00:00 |
| schestowitz__ | the media that boosted this looks like a bunch of liars now | Feb 28 00:00 |
| schestowitz__ | and some countries like australia misused the data collected with these | Feb 28 00:01 |
| schestowitz__ | another reason to "not trust your government" | Feb 28 00:01 |
| schestowitz__ | or the 'linux' foundation | Feb 28 00:01 |
| schestowitz__ | July techrights.org/2020/07/21/stalin-dream/ | Feb 28 00:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Linux project".... | Feb 28 00:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Open source (spyware). | Feb 28 00:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fuck me on ShitHub! | Feb 28 00:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What's been going on at ShitHub should scare the hell out of anyone whose project could even be accused of violating the DMCA. And what couldn't, really? | Feb 28 00:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | VLC violates the DMCA. Youtube (Google) can argue the same as they did when they got youtube-dl taken down. | Feb 28 00:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You drop a youtube link on it and it plays without spam and tracking and tons of Javascript code. | Feb 28 00:19 |
| CrystalMath | youtube-dl is back | Feb 28 00:20 |
| techrights-bot | Notes on Addressing Supply Chain Vulnerabilities https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2021/02/27/notes-on-addressing-supply-chain-vulnerabilities/ you put #proprietarySoftware #DRM blobs in #firefox so your supply chain is dodgy | Feb 28 00:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Notes on Addressing Supply Chain Vulnerabilities - The Mozilla Blog | Feb 28 00:23 | |
| techrights-bot | Red Hat returns with another peace offering http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148134#comment-28444 now what it seems: http://techrights.org/2021/02/25/rhel-with-new-terms-and-conditions/ | Feb 28 00:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Extending no-cost Red Hat Enterprise Linux to open source organizations | Tux Machines | Feb 28 00:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and Qt Don’t Understand Free Software and They Now Impose Terms and Conditions on Who Qualifies for Use of Free Software Free of Charge | Techrights | Feb 28 00:25 | |
| MinceR | 28 012021 < CrystalMath> youtube-dl is back | Feb 28 00:34 |
| MinceR | have they moved off shithub or have they dropped functionality? | Feb 28 00:34 |
| techrights-bot | " #DocKnot is my software documentation and release management tool. This release adds support for a global user configuration file separate from the metadata for any given project and adds support for signing generated distribution tarballs with GnuPG." https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/journal/2021-02/001.html | Feb 28 00:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eyrie.org | Eagle's Path: DocKnot 4.01 (2021-02-27) | Feb 28 00:35 | |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: neither, the EFF contested the DMCA | Feb 28 00:35 |
| MinceR | ah, so they're waiting to be blocked again | Feb 28 00:36 |
| techrights-bot | #Kraft Version 0.96 is out https://tagfrei.wordpress.com/2021/02/27/kraft-version-0-96/ #suse #gnu #linux | Feb 28 00:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tagfrei.wordpress.com | Kraft Version 0.96 | Mach den Büro-Tag frei(er) mit freier Software | Feb 28 00:36 | |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: Microsoft PR stunt | Feb 28 00:37 |
| schestowitz__ | because many left after that | Feb 28 00:37 |
| schestowitz__ | and still do | Feb 28 00:37 |
| schestowitz__ | rocky linux is one | Feb 28 00:37 |
| MinceR | makes it even more baffling that youtube-dl is still there | Feb 28 00:38 |
| schestowitz__ | I tried convincing curl, to no avail so far, but the pressure grew | Feb 28 00:38 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: maybe Microsoft pays them | Feb 28 00:38 |
| MinceR | :( | Feb 28 00:38 |
| schestowitz__ | for pr purpuses | Feb 28 00:38 |
| schestowitz__ | they said they'd allocate funds | Feb 28 00:38 |
| schestowitz__ | only because of the PR damage | Feb 28 00:38 |
| schestowitz__ | they said they "support developers" | Feb 28 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | or some lie like that | Feb 28 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | they support their own image | Feb 28 00:39 |
| schestowitz__ | that's just what they support | Feb 28 00:39 |
| techrights-bot | #VoidLinux Has Been Working To Deliver Great POWER Support • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148224 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 00:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Void Linux Has Been Working To Deliver Great POWER Support | Tux Machines | Feb 28 00:40 | |
| techrights-bot | Packaging #ProprietarySoftware blbgs for #ubuntu https://popey.com/blog/2021/02/snapcraft-clinic-successes/ | Feb 28 00:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-popey.com | Snapcraft Clinic Successes - Alan Pope's blog | Feb 28 00:42 | |
| techrights-bot | #gnome #gnu #linux #freesw #GTG : A new data format has landed in the upcoming GTG 0.5 https://fortintam.com/blog/gtg-data-format-v2-merged/ | Feb 28 00:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fortintam.com | A new data format has landed in the upcoming GTG 0.5 – The Open Sourcerer | Feb 28 00:44 | |
| techrights-bot | #gemini clients/browsers have support for external (www) browsers, but not for handling something like external media players for media files, which would be a nice feature outside the spec. Not 'extending' the standards. | Feb 28 00:50 |
| techrights-bot | Videos: Tuxedo Laptop, "Most Important Linux Programs On My System", and More • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148225 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 00:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos: Tuxedo Laptop, "Most Important Linux Programs On My System", and More | Tux Machines | Feb 28 00:51 | |
| vmg3 | DaemonFC[m], interesting thanks. Australia has quite a story about our CovidSafe app 80 million down the shitter with a Qannon developer and it still don't work :) | Feb 28 01:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Feb 28 01:02 |
| MinceR | :) | Feb 28 01:02 |
| vmg3 | schestowitz__, cool i'm a cinnamon on my main with manjero on pi's | Feb 28 01:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "At the same time, a COVID-19 positive protester who attended the Melbourne Black Lives Matter rally on 6 June 2020 was criticised in the media for having not downloaded the app. Despite the identification of at least two further cases in attendance, to date no transmission has been found to originate from the protests." | Feb 28 01:04 |
| vmg3 | yeah pisses me off | Feb 28 01:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So we'll shame you for not downloading spyware......even though we can't prove any actual transmission happened there, and would not have known about it had any occurred because it was asymptomatic. | Feb 28 01:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | :) | Feb 28 01:04 |
| vmg3 | throw money around | Feb 28 01:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Makes perfect sense. | Feb 28 01:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Reminds me of my mom. No criticism of the church people packing in with no masks on and causing an outbreak that they admit happened weeks later. | Feb 28 01:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But all of a sudden "Those BLM protests are going to have COVID everywhere!". | Feb 28 01:05 |
| vmg3 | don't get me going :) | Feb 28 01:05 |
| MinceR | maybe she believes miklos kasler | Feb 28 01:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Who the fuck is that? | Feb 28 01:06 |
| vmg3 | rwnj | Feb 28 01:06 |
| MinceR | alleged oncologist(!) who is the "minister of human resources" in this shithole country who said you won't get sick if you obey the ten commandments | Feb 28 01:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | HAHAHAHAAAA!!!! | Feb 28 01:07 |
| MinceR | they'll give any retarded asshole a doctorate in this shithole | Feb 28 01:07 |
| vmg3 | sounds like craig kelly | Feb 28 01:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I broke half of them at least and I'm gay. | Feb 28 01:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I made it long enough to get the vaccine instead of the disease. | Feb 28 01:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And all those church people mom is friends with did not. | Feb 28 01:07 |
| vmg3 | you a front line worker? | Feb 28 01:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nope. | Feb 28 01:08 |
| vmg3 | oh ok | Feb 28 01:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Underlying condition, biznatches. :P | Feb 28 01:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I just barely qualify as obese, and lots of that is because of the weight I gained during lockdown. | Feb 28 01:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The BMI is horribly flawed, but who am I to argue? | Feb 28 01:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Gets me in for the shot. | Feb 28 01:08 |
| vmg3 | yeah I just did 45 min on my bike my tits are getting to big | Feb 28 01:09 |
| MinceR | lol | Feb 28 01:09 |
| vmg3 | the older I get the harder I try | Feb 28 01:11 |
| vmg3 | Paul Kelly he's our CMO | Feb 28 01:12 |
| vmg3 | Craig is an MP | Feb 28 01:12 |
| MinceR | kasler is so incompetent his own government took most of his responsibilities away from him already | Feb 28 01:14 |
| MinceR | they don't dare replace him while the plague is ongoing | Feb 28 01:14 |
| vmg3 | By design | Feb 28 01:14 |
| MinceR | but hey, the university of szeged (under stalinist rule) thought he'd be good enough to be an MD | Feb 28 01:15 |
| vmg3 | Back room voices need people they can manipulate easily | Feb 28 01:15 |
| MinceR | now he's busy trying to find the bones of king matthias so he can put him together again (what the fuck for, nobody knows) | Feb 28 01:15 |
| vmg3 | sounds like a promotion is in orde | Feb 28 01:16 |
| vmg3 | s/order/orde | Feb 28 01:16 |
| MinceR | and i'll probably be watching millions of drooling, toxic idiots saying "yes, this is exactly what we want four more years of please!" next year | Feb 28 01:16 |
| MinceR | can we have our gamma ray burst please? | Feb 28 01:17 |
| vmg3 | at least you don't have murdoch running the show | Feb 28 01:17 |
| MinceR | we have orban and putin running the show | Feb 28 01:21 |
| vmg3 | I'm envious | Feb 28 01:21 |
| MinceR | don't be | Feb 28 01:21 |
| vmg3 | yeah grass is always greener | Feb 28 01:22 |
| vmg3 | we are going backwards | Feb 28 01:22 |
| vmg3 | we are americas lapdag | Feb 28 01:23 |
| MinceR | at least uhmerica had enough checks and balances to not collapse from 4 years of twitler | Feb 28 01:24 |
| MinceR | like hungary did from 4 years of orban | Feb 28 01:24 |
| vmg3 | debatable at this stage even after the orange clown | Feb 28 01:24 |
| vmg3 | our ex PM tony abbott likes him(orban) | Feb 28 01:26 |
| MinceR | fascists like each other, film at 11 | Feb 28 01:27 |
| vmg3 | true | Feb 28 01:27 |
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| vmg3 | I'm a bit envious of the EU with their privacy laws and watching Brexit makes me smile | Feb 28 01:28 |
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| MinceR | i wonder if the EU still enforces any of its laws | Feb 28 01:30 |
| MinceR | on the EU level, that is | Feb 28 01:30 |
| vmg3 | Most of them have an american base | Feb 28 01:30 |
| vmg3 | say one thing and do another | Feb 28 01:31 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 28 01:31 |
| MinceR | they certainly haven't done anything about hungary becoming a dictatorship and abolishing rule of law | Feb 28 01:34 |
| vmg3 | no giant oil reserves | Feb 28 01:35 |
| vmg3 | syria is important | Feb 28 01:35 |
| vmg3 | god i'm cynical | Feb 28 01:36 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▅▅▅▅▄▄▃▆▄▅▅▅▂▄▆▅▇▅▅▆▃▅▅▅▅▅▄▃▅▆▆▁ avg(k/sec) 22.88 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▃▁▂▂▂▂▁▃▃▃▃▃▁▂▁▂▂▃▃▃▁ avg(k/sec) 7.05▕ swarm size (avg): 117.90 ⟲ | Feb 28 01:37 |
| vmg3 | trouble is you try to discuss these things in public and you're a conspiracy guy | Feb 28 01:37 |
| vmg3 | or treasonous | Feb 28 01:37 |
| vmg3 | even my family are a disappointment | Feb 28 01:38 |
| vmg3 | racist sexist homophobic | Feb 28 01:38 |
| vmg3 | another problem I've found with these gemini browsers is if the link is say [45] I always get taken to [4] will check it out further later :| things to do | Feb 28 01:54 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | <MinceR "they certainly haven't done anyt"> Sure they have. They sat there and watched it happen in exchange for technically having more territory in the EU. | Feb 28 01:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <MinceR "kasler is so incompetent his own"> Fauci has been floating around since the US government bungled HIV. | Feb 28 01:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They brought him back for an encore. | Feb 28 02:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's been pretty good at not pissing off the current president so he's been around a long time,. | Feb 28 02:00 |
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| vmg3 | schestowitz__, only links 1-9 are available in gemini unless there is a highlight(lynx like) feature I'm missing | Feb 28 02:30 |
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| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▅▅▅▅▄▄▃▆▄▅▅▅▂▄▆▅▇▅▅▆▃▅▅▅▅▅▄▃▅▆▆▁ avg(k/sec) 22.88 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▃▁▂▂▂▂▁▃▃▃▃▃▁▂▁▂▂▃▃▃▁ avg(k/sec) 7.05▕ swarm size (avg): 117.72 ⟲ | Feb 28 02:37 |
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| techrights-ipfs | IPFS local node stats TotalIn: 8.1 MB TotalOut: 2.3 MB | Feb 28 03:01 |
| techrights-ipfs | New bulletin just generated and added to IPFS with CID: | Feb 28 03:01 |
| techrights-ipfs | QmXwactwdWFj2TLvAXdStVi238in5okXcVFgsCkGsqexMZ | Feb 28 03:01 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▃▅▅▅▅▅▄▃▅▆▆▄▅▄▄▇▄▅▂▁▂▃▅▁▄▅▄▄▅▅▁▁ avg(k/sec) 21.46 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▃▃▃▃▃▁▂▁▂▂▃▃▃▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▁█▁▁▂▁▁▁▃▁▂▂▂█▁ avg(k/sec) 45.23▕ swarm size (avg): 117.79 ⟲ | Feb 28 03:37 |
| vmg3 | schestowitz__, my workaround is a gui browser https://gmi.skyjake.fi/lagrange/ a bit scary building for the not so technical | Feb 28 03:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gmi.skyjake.fi | Lagrange | Feb 28 03:38 | |
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| vmg3 | Freedom and liberty? Watched the Silk Road a couple of days ago and at the end Ulbricht said it's all well and good but you don't know what people are going to do with it. this ties into the canta-series I just saw and wanted to play devils advocate. Thailand has a museum about corruption, yeah its ironic but what they say there is true too. there will always be corruption, nepotism favours for mates or donors. It's all very tricky. Depends what | Feb 28 04:09 |
| vmg3 | side you're on I guess. | Feb 28 04:09 |
| MinceR | no, not always | Feb 28 04:09 |
| MinceR | once we manage to kill ourselves off, there will be no more corruption by humans | Feb 28 04:09 |
| vmg3 | how | Feb 28 04:09 |
| vmg3 | lol | Feb 28 04:09 |
| vmg3 | the perfect planet | Feb 28 04:10 |
| vmg3 | just a few will go to mars | Feb 28 04:10 |
| vmg3 | like roy said how many billions does a person need | Feb 28 04:11 |
| vmg3 | Ross I want my coins back | Feb 28 04:13 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▁▂▃▄▂▄▆▅▄▅▄▃▄▅▅▆▃▄▇▅▅▅▇▁▂▆▄▄▅▆▅▆▂▅▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 22.05 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▃▁▂▂▃▁▃▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 13.05▕ swarm size (avg): 118.02 ⟲ | Feb 28 04:37 |
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| habaner0 | https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-26/google-judge-disturbed-that-even-incognito-users-are-tracked | Feb 28 06:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Judge Disturbed That ‘Incognito’ Users Are Tracked - Bloomberg | Feb 28 06:13 | |
| vmg3 | MinceR, I'm not to bright when it comes to the bleeding obvious, also happy to learn I'm not the only person without a mobile phone. | Feb 28 06:17 |
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| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▅▅▄▅▄▄▆▆▅▆▄▅▆▂▅▇▃▃▅▅▄▇▄▅▅▃▃▃▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 22.66 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▃▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▁▂▃▁▁▂▃▂▁▂▁▂▃▁▂▂▁▂▂▄▁▂▂▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 5.98▕ swarm size (avg): 118.51 ⟲ | Feb 28 06:37 |
| schestowitz__ | habaner0: what is a "Google Judge"? :-) | Feb 28 07:09 |
| schestowitz__ | They mean Judge | Feb 28 07:09 |
| schestowitz__ | and "by Google" | Feb 28 07:09 |
| schestowitz__ | but yes, Google falsely advertises options for 'privacy' | Feb 28 07:10 |
| schestowitz__ | so does mozilla | Feb 28 07:10 |
| schestowitz__ | all those "incognito" modes | Feb 28 07:10 |
| schestowitz__ | and "turn off location" | Feb 28 07:10 |
| schestowitz__ | an option which they disregard, it's there just to give you an illusion of control | Feb 28 07:10 |
| schestowitz__ | vmg3: you can enter numbers or use TAB | Feb 28 07:11 |
| vmg3 | sweet | Feb 28 07:11 |
| *vmg3 facepalm | Feb 28 07:13 | |
| schestowitz__ | [01:02] <vmg3> DaemonFC[m], interesting thanks. Australia has quite a story about our CovidSafe app 80 million down the shitter with a Qannon developer and it still don't work :) | Feb 28 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | it does work | Feb 28 07:13 |
| vmg3 | yep | Feb 28 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | but its goal isn't to tackle covid | Feb 28 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | the spies in aussie put their hands on the data | Feb 28 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | so it worked | Feb 28 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | not they contact and trace people to their connections | Feb 28 07:14 |
| vmg3 | ? would have told me all | Feb 28 07:14 |
| schestowitz__ | which don't change over the years, not much.. | Feb 28 07:14 |
| vmg3 | i was reading the config | Feb 28 07:14 |
| vmg3 | bluetooth was never going to work | Feb 28 07:22 |
| vmg3 | Its hard not to be sceptical | Feb 28 07:24 |
| schestowitz__ | it's old tech | Feb 28 07:24 |
| schestowitz__ | 20 years or thereabouts, slightly more | Feb 28 07:24 |
| vmg3 | it's an insult to the tax payer | Feb 28 07:24 |
| schestowitz__ | they used it to make devices that need batteries instead of cords | Feb 28 07:24 |
| schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2020/11/01/11-million-people-after-patient-zero/ | Feb 28 07:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Contact-Tracing Ploy (Mission Creep/Mass Surveillance) is Only Effective When Dealing With Patient Zero and Few Others, Not Millions | Techrights | Feb 28 07:25 | |
| vmg3 | now google in in cahoots with em | Feb 28 07:25 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.itwire.com/open-sauce/fancy-some-contact-tracing-that-ll-be-$4-12-million-a-pop.html | Feb 28 07:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Fancy some contact tracing? That'll be $4.12 million a pop | Feb 28 07:25 | |
| vmg3 | you're all over it | Feb 28 07:26 |
| vmg3 | yet the public seems oblivious to all of ti | Feb 28 07:28 |
| vmg3 | I was going to say the poor old aids guy, thats in there to | Feb 28 07:31 |
| mjg59 | Google's implementation literally doesn't associate identity with contacts | Feb 28 07:34 |
| vmg3 | I have trust issues | Feb 28 07:37 |
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| mjg59 | The protocol description is public | Feb 28 07:37 |
| mjg59 | It's straightforward to verify whether the implementation matches that | Feb 28 07:37 |
| mjg59 | It's not a case where you have to trust | Feb 28 07:38 |
| mjg59 | You're entirely able to verify | Feb 28 07:38 |
| vmg3 | https://www.itnews.com.au/news/covidsafe-data-incidentally-collected-by-intelligence-agencies-in-first-six-months-558129#disqus_thread | Feb 28 07:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itnews.com.au | COVIDSafe data 'incidentally' collected by intelligence agencies in first six months - Security - iTnews | Feb 28 07:38 | |
| schestowitz__ | [07:34] <mjg59> Google's implementation literally doesn't associate identity with contacts | Feb 28 07:39 |
| schestowitz__ | Google also said you can toggle location off | Feb 28 07:39 |
| schestowitz__ | and then it was taken to court because it had lied | Feb 28 07:39 |
| mjg59 | vmg3: Yeah, that's an implementation that doesn't use the Apple+Google protocol and, as a result, can be misused | Feb 28 07:39 |
| schestowitz__ | blah blah | Feb 28 07:40 |
| vmg3 | then they have metadata | Feb 28 07:40 |
| mjg59 | vmg3: What metadata? | Feb 28 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | Google trusted, people betrayed | Feb 28 07:40 |
| vmg3 | everything | Feb 28 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | vmg3: he's a Google employee | Feb 28 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | until lately, he claims | Feb 28 07:40 |
| mjg59 | (I'm not) | Feb 28 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | how much in salary did they pay yoi? | Feb 28 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | $500k? | Feb 28 07:40 |
| vmg3 | all good I have nothing to hide | Feb 28 07:40 |
| mjg59 | Salary? Nope | Feb 28 07:40 |
| vmg3 | smoke a little weed | Feb 28 07:40 |
| schestowitz__ | $300? | Feb 28 07:41 |
| mjg59 | Total comp in that ballpark | Feb 28 07:41 |
| schestowitz__ | in total? | Feb 28 07:41 |
| vmg3 | I use to recommend google | Feb 28 07:41 |
| mjg59 | My job title was public, there's plenty of data about Google compensation per level | Feb 28 07:41 |
| schestowitz__ | "not everyone has the privilege of not profiting off espionage and surveillance capitalism..." LOL | Feb 28 07:42 |
| mjg59 | But seriously, I'm not saying trust Google here | Feb 28 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | you do | Feb 28 07:42 |
| schestowitz__ | anyway, bbl | Feb 28 07:42 |
| mjg59 | I'm saying that it's straightforward to verify whether the implementation matches the spec | Feb 28 07:42 |
| vmg3 | I think size is the problem, once they get big in comes "intelligence" | Feb 28 07:42 |
| mjg59 | And also easy to determine whether any sort of metadata is being exfiltrated that would allow that to be bypassed | Feb 28 07:43 |
| vmg3 | now nobody pays any attention the broadsheets news | Feb 28 07:43 |
| vmg3 | dawned on them in the last 5 years | Feb 28 07:43 |
| vmg3 | patriot act | Feb 28 07:44 |
| mjg59 | https://github.com/google/exposure-notifications-internals is the source code for the exposure notifications framework | Feb 28 07:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - google/exposure-notifications-internals: This repository contains snippets of code that show how the Exposure Notifications API works inside the Google Play services layer. | Feb 28 07:44 | |
| mjg59 | You can trivially pull apart the Play services APK and verify whether it corresponds to that | Feb 28 07:45 |
| vmg3 | server side is where the action is | Feb 28 07:45 |
| mjg59 | Server side isn't managed by Google | Feb 28 07:45 |
| mjg59 | The client that makes use of the framework gets to choose who it talks to | Feb 28 07:45 |
| vmg3 | obfuscation | Feb 28 07:46 |
| mjg59 | But you can also verify that the client doesn't get information that would identify a user | Feb 28 07:46 |
| mjg59 | Like | Feb 28 07:46 |
| mjg59 | This isn't a theoretical thing | Feb 28 07:46 |
| mjg59 | You can actually just go and pull the apps apart and verify this | Feb 28 07:46 |
| vmg3 | neither is solarwinds | Feb 28 07:46 |
| mjg59 | Reverse engineering Android apps is trivial | Feb 28 07:46 |
| mjg59 | You can root your phone and monitor everything that's communicated | Feb 28 07:47 |
| vmg3 | I don't have a phone | Feb 28 07:47 |
| vmg3 | just a tablet | Feb 28 07:47 |
| mjg59 | Sure, that works just as well | Feb 28 07:47 |
| mjg59 | You can even do it in an emulator | Feb 28 07:47 |
| mjg59 | I understand people not wanting to trust Google | Feb 28 07:48 |
| mjg59 | I don't understand people refusing to do any work to look for evidence of trust being violated | Feb 28 07:48 |
| vmg3 | patriot act! I cant say it enough times | Feb 28 07:48 |
| mjg59 | You can say it any number of times you want | Feb 28 07:48 |
| mjg59 | The code ends up on people's devices | Feb 28 07:48 |
| mjg59 | It can be examined | Feb 28 07:49 |
| mjg59 | People do this all the time | Feb 28 07:49 |
| mjg59 | And nobody's found a back door | Feb 28 07:49 |
| vmg3 | a $60k fine for getting caught is small change | Feb 28 07:49 |
| vmg3 | and yet fuzzybear can find there way around | Feb 28 07:50 |
| vmg3 | s/their/there | Feb 28 07:50 |
| vmg3 | there were so many people on twitter picking holes in covidsafe and the next day in all the news outlets they are all fixed | Feb 28 07:53 |
| vmg3 | zero development time | Feb 28 07:54 |
| vmg3 | live production | Feb 28 07:54 |
| vmg3 | gimmie a break | Feb 28 07:54 |
| schestowitz__ | datasafe | Feb 28 07:54 |
| schestowitz__ | all your data | Feb 28 07:54 |
| schestowitz__ | in Google's (and others') vault | Feb 28 07:55 |
| schestowitz__ | "confidential computing" | Feb 28 07:55 |
| schestowitz__ | how LF paints mass surveillance aS confidential | Feb 28 07:55 |
| vmg3 | lol yeah i can't see it | Feb 28 07:55 |
| schestowitz__ | they encrypt their STOLEN data | Feb 28 07:55 |
| schestowitz__ | otherwise the "RUSHANS" too might get their STOLEN data | Feb 28 07:55 |
| vmg3 | China | Feb 28 07:55 |
| schestowitz__ | Jim Zemlin: I hereby declare what was stolen to be "CONFIDENTIAL" | Feb 28 07:55 |
| schestowitz__ | clap clap to Facebook and Google | Feb 28 07:56 |
| vmg3 | how many times did M$ lie about solarwind | Feb 28 07:56 |
| schestowitz__ | renew your gold or platinum or whatever LF membership (bribe) next year | Feb 28 07:56 |
| schestowitz__ | vmg3: criminals lie | Feb 28 07:56 |
| schestowitz__ | it's the lesser crime | Feb 28 07:56 |
| vmg3 | exactly | Feb 28 07:56 |
| schestowitz__ | vmg3: Microsoft got completely end entirely pwned | Feb 28 07:57 |
| vmg3 | The end justifies the means | Feb 28 07:57 |
| schestowitz__ | all the way up to source level code | Feb 28 07:57 |
| schestowitz__ | so who knows what was done to their software | Feb 28 07:57 |
| vmg3 | pump in js blobs | Feb 28 07:57 |
| schestowitz__ | anyway, for me at least, these companies aren't an issue as long as I stay away from them and what they're infecting | Feb 28 07:57 |
| vmg3 | They only act stupid | Feb 28 07:58 |
| schestowitz__ | they just hire people and sellouts with "security" in their job title | Feb 28 07:58 |
| schestowitz__ | a-holes like Stamos | Feb 28 07:58 |
| schestowitz__ | who then pretend that they're some sort of gurus, while profiting from stealing people's data | Feb 28 07:58 |
| vmg3 | they wear no clothes | Feb 28 07:58 |
| schestowitz__ | they're white-collared crackers | Feb 28 07:59 |
| schestowitz__ | working for the "WELL-CONNECTED" crackers | Feb 28 07:59 |
| vmg3 | get ransomed by a 16 year old and its a state actor | Feb 28 07:59 |
| mjg59 | schestowitz__: You understand that it's actually extremely easy to figure out what a device you have control over is doing, right? | Feb 28 08:00 |
| vmg3 | snort | Feb 28 08:00 |
| vmg3 | even get teardropped via vpn | Feb 28 08:01 |
| mjg59 | It's all just software | Feb 28 08:01 |
| schestowitz__ | Such a weird new article from a "LINUX" site https://www.fosslinux.com/45397/opendns-vs-google-dns.htm | Feb 28 08:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslinux.com | OpenDNS vs. Google DNS: everything you need to know | FOSS Linux | Feb 28 08:01 | |
| mjg59 | We have plenty of tooling for dealing with this problem | Feb 28 08:01 |
| vmg3 | the people are the weakest link | Feb 28 08:01 |
| mjg59 | The people don't live in your hardware | Feb 28 08:01 |
| mjg59 | You continue to have the ability to determine what information leaves it, and where it goes | Feb 28 08:02 |
| vmg3 | no they look over your shoulder | Feb 28 08:02 |
| vmg3 | they drop a fancy stick in the carpark | Feb 28 08:02 |
| mjg59 | Once information leaves your device, yes, you're trusting that a third party has perfect security | Feb 28 08:03 |
| mjg59 | So it's fair to distrust that | Feb 28 08:03 |
| schestowitz__ | this discussion is a joke | Feb 28 08:03 |
| vmg3 | they have sonic mic's on windows that can read keystrokes | Feb 28 08:03 |
| mjg59 | But you *can* verify whether information leaves your device | Feb 28 08:03 |
| schestowitz__ | people don't choose what JS taken off them when they visit a web page | Feb 28 08:03 |
| schestowitz__ | mjg59: your arguments are worse than farcical | Feb 28 08:03 |
| schestowitz__ | it's like blaming people for living under where the bombs fall | Feb 28 08:03 |
| mjg59 | ? | Feb 28 08:04 |
| mjg59 | I'm not blaming anyone | Feb 28 08:04 |
| vmg3 | I think its to hear all sides | Feb 28 08:04 |
| schestowitz__ | people aren't in control of data theives | Feb 28 08:04 |
| schestowitz__ | thieves | Feb 28 08:04 |
| vmg3 | not that i'm going to agree | Feb 28 08:04 |
| schestowitz__ | it's an institutional problem | Feb 28 08:04 |
| schestowitz__ | some thieves get away with it | Feb 28 08:04 |
| mjg59 | I'm saying that if you believe that the Google/Apple contact tracing framework is leaking information that would allow identification of individuals, you can prove that easily | Feb 28 08:04 |
| vmg3 | easily | Feb 28 08:05 |
| schestowitz__ | it was about trust | Feb 28 08:05 |
| schestowitz__ | and why we cannot in general trust those companies | Feb 28 08:05 |
| schestowitz__ | as they kept lying and got caught many times before | Feb 28 08:05 |
| schestowitz__ | that's all there is to it | Feb 28 08:05 |
| schestowitz__ | and you enables that for years, for a salary... | Feb 28 08:05 |
| schestowitz__ | the media helps them also | Feb 28 08:05 |
| schestowitz__ | for money | Feb 28 08:05 |
| schestowitz__ | the whole "apple blah blah importance of privacy" | Feb 28 08:06 |
| schestowitz__ | while they give NSA access to their data | Feb 28 08:06 |
| mjg59 | Yes, I too am a member of a capitalist society | Feb 28 08:06 |
| schestowitz__ | too many corrupt people out there | Feb 28 08:06 |
| vmg3 | they even big note themselves that they see classified files etc | Feb 28 08:06 |
| schestowitz__ | and they need to be called out | Feb 28 08:06 |
| schestowitz__ | mjg59: surveillance capitalist | Feb 28 08:06 |
| schestowitz__ | i.e. people who profit from abusing people's human rights | Feb 28 08:06 |
| vmg3 | casino capitalism | Feb 28 08:06 |
| schestowitz__ | such as the right to dignity and privacy | Feb 28 08:06 |
| schestowitz__ | mjg59: don't give us the yuppie Nuremberg defence now | Feb 28 08:07 |
| vmg3 | we learn nothing from the past | Feb 28 08:07 |
| mjg59 | Oh, I'm fine with being considered complicit in anything I actually did | Feb 28 08:07 |
| schestowitz__ | a cog in a bad machine | Feb 28 08:08 |
| vmg3 | when your emails get scanned and then you get appropriate advertising | Feb 28 08:08 |
| mjg59 | And yet you perform labour for money | Feb 28 08:08 |
| mjg59 | Interesting | Feb 28 08:08 |
| schestowitz__ | (that's where the money is, sadly) | Feb 28 08:08 |
| schestowitz__ | you can work gardening | Feb 28 08:08 |
| schestowitz__ | and hurt nobody | Feb 28 08:08 |
| schestowitz__ | yuppie Nuremberg defence \] | Feb 28 08:09 |
| schestowitz__ | "I need $150k a year" | Feb 28 08:09 |
| mjg59 | What if I do gardening work for a Google executive | Feb 28 08:09 |
| mjg59 | Is that good or evil | Feb 28 08:09 |
| schestowitz__ | you would not be a GOogle employee | Feb 28 08:09 |
| vmg3 | I see how politics works here in australia and they have been infiltrated by the evangelicals | Feb 28 08:09 |
| schestowitz__ | you would likely be hired for a gardening job for an individual | Feb 28 08:09 |
| mjg59 | So what level of removal from Google is acceptable? | Feb 28 08:09 |
| schestowitz__ | and those too you can reject as clients is they do bad things | Feb 28 08:09 |
| mjg59 | Is it ok to be a Google contractor? | Feb 28 08:09 |
| schestowitz__ | it's OK to resign | Feb 28 08:10 |
| vmg3 | we all have to earn a crust | Feb 28 08:10 |
| mjg59 | Is it ok to sell computers to Google? | Feb 28 08:10 |
| mjg59 | Is it ok to write software that Google uses? | Feb 28 08:10 |
| mjg59 | What boundary do you actually set here? | Feb 28 08:10 |
| schestowitz__ | you don't control that | Feb 28 08:10 |
| schestowitz__ | you write free software | Feb 28 08:10 |
| schestowitz__ | Google can use that | Feb 28 08:10 |
| schestowitz__ | so can Raytheon | Feb 28 08:10 |
| mjg59 | If I'm a gardner I control whether or not I work for a Google exec | Feb 28 08:10 |
| mjg59 | Is it acceptable to do so? | Feb 28 08:10 |
| schestowitz__ | first go gardening | Feb 28 08:11 |
| schestowitz__ | then we'll talk | Feb 28 08:11 |
| schestowitz__ | you don't intend to do that | Feb 28 08:11 |
| mjg59 | Answer the fucking question Roy, it's not hard | Feb 28 08:11 |
| schestowitz__ | you always work for those dodgy companies | Feb 28 08:11 |
| schestowitz__ | you're after money | Feb 28 08:11 |
| schestowitz__ | "security" is a facade | Feb 28 08:11 |
| schestowitz__ | they pretend to be the opposite of what they are | Feb 28 08:11 |
| schestowitz__ | they blow off the cover off people | Feb 28 08:11 |
| schestowitz__ | grab their data | Feb 28 08:11 |
| vmg3 | education is the biggest flaw in this equation | Feb 28 08:11 |
| mjg59 | The problem is that you're going to end up defining a level of appropriate behaviour that you'd end up violating | Feb 28 08:11 |
| mjg59 | You hold others to standards you don't adhere to | Feb 28 08:12 |
| schestowitz__ | and they blow the media with PR fluff like http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148084#comment-28435 | Feb 28 08:12 |
| mjg59 | And the moment anyone starts challenging you on that you start deflecting and bringing up irrelevant issues | Feb 28 08:12 |
| vmg3 | no personal responsibility, ip's share | Feb 28 08:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google funds Linux kernel developers to work exclusively on security | Tux Machines | Feb 28 08:13 | |
| mjg59 | Nothing I worked on at Google enabled surveillance of anyone | Feb 28 08:13 |
| mjg59 | In fact, it made it more difficult | Feb 28 08:13 |
| vmg3 | socialism for corporate monopolies | Feb 28 08:13 |
| vmg3 | when the going get tough | Feb 28 08:13 |
| mjg59 | schestowitz__: Do you assert that 100% of decisions made by your employer are ethically justifiable? | Feb 28 08:14 |
| vmg3 | yet we get scared and vote for more | Feb 28 08:14 |
| mjg59 | Or is this a "Google is worse, so we don't need to discuss that" sort of affair? | Feb 28 08:15 |
| mjg59 | Are you even willing to declare who you work for so other people can investigate what they do? | Feb 28 08:15 |
| vmg3 | they still do some good | Feb 28 08:16 |
| schestowitz__ | mostly NHS | Feb 28 08:16 |
| schestowitz__ | you never explains why you left Google or why they fired you | Feb 28 08:17 |
| schestowitz__ | I somehow doubt, given what you say, that ethics was the reason | Feb 28 08:17 |
| vmg3 | do no evil is a footnote | Feb 28 08:18 |
| schestowitz__ | Microsoft: computer on every desk | Feb 28 08:18 |
| schestowitz__ | Microsoft 2021: malware on every raspberry pi | Feb 28 08:18 |
| vmg3 | linkdin | Feb 28 08:18 |
| schestowitz__ | failure | Feb 28 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | many layoffs | Feb 28 08:19 |
| mjg59 | schestowitz__: Who's your emplyoer? | Feb 28 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | no idea why they paid to get access to that lousy data | Feb 28 08:19 |
| mjg59 | You keep mentioning you've only worked for one company for the past 12 years or whatever | Feb 28 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | SIrius | Feb 28 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | go check it | Feb 28 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | mostly public sector | Feb 28 08:19 |
| schestowitz__ | I could probably be paid 10 times more in some "data theft" firm like GOogle | Feb 28 08:20 |
| schestowitz__ | which tried to hire me like 3 times over the years | Feb 28 08:20 |
| mjg59 | Oh, so you did work for the organisation that oversees the Metropolitan Police, an institutionally racist organisation? | Feb 28 08:21 |
| mjg59 | Can you justify that? | Feb 28 08:21 |
| schestowitz__ | lol | Feb 28 08:21 |
| schestowitz__ | yeah, now go ahead and say London Town Hall is the same as GOogle | Feb 28 08:21 |
| mjg59 | I'm not saying that | Feb 28 08:21 |
| schestowitz__ | we never worked for the Met | Feb 28 08:22 |
| mjg59 | You worked for the GLA, who oversees the Met | Feb 28 08:22 |
| mjg59 | And who allows them to continue being racist | Feb 28 08:22 |
| schestowitz__ | "let's doxx this guy for working on a site of the municipality" | Feb 28 08:22 |
| vmg3 | testing facial recognition could be any department | Feb 28 08:22 |
| schestowitz__ | mjg59: you work in the US | Feb 28 08:22 |
| schestowitz__ | which bombs people | Feb 28 08:22 |
| schestowitz__ | millions of people | Feb 28 08:22 |
| schestowitz__ | so there | Feb 28 08:22 |
| schestowitz__ | leave the US | Feb 28 08:22 |
| schestowitz__ | or else you pay taxes to bomb people | Feb 28 08:23 |
| schestowitz__ | that's your logic | Feb 28 08:23 |
| vmg3 | our local gov put all our licenses for the fed government | Feb 28 08:23 |
| mjg59 | You worked for GLA while Boris Johnson was mayor | Feb 28 08:23 |
| mjg59 | Who purchased illegal weapons to use against his population | Feb 28 08:23 |
| schestowitz__ | water canons | Feb 28 08:24 |
| mjg59 | Illegal ones, yes | Feb 28 08:24 |
| schestowitz__ | which I opposed | Feb 28 08:24 |
| mjg59 | Cool | Feb 28 08:24 |
| schestowitz__ | cannons | Feb 28 08:24 |
| mjg59 | Like I opposed many things Google did | Feb 28 08:24 |
| mjg59 | So what's the line you're drawing that differentiates these | Feb 28 08:24 |
| schestowitz__ | now you compare a water cannon to things like bombing campaigns | Feb 28 08:24 |
| schestowitz__ | and by indirect inferences | Feb 28 08:24 |
| vmg3 | the trouble with the capitalist system is the layer of corruption is huge | Feb 28 08:24 |
| mjg59 | I don't think you participated in anything immoral or inappropriate | Feb 28 08:25 |
| schestowitz__ | Johnson is now PM and now working at GLA | Feb 28 08:25 |
| mjg59 | But you continue insinuating that I did | Feb 28 08:25 |
| mjg59 | And you're not providing a meaningful way to distinguish between them | Feb 28 08:25 |
| schestowitz__ | the hacker community needs to fight the likes of Google | Feb 28 08:25 |
| schestowitz__ | not take salaries from it | Feb 28 08:25 |
| mjg59 | And again, you deflect | Feb 28 08:25 |
| mjg59 | Rather than addressing the issue | Feb 28 08:25 |
| vmg3 | howd that work out for the piratebay guys | Feb 28 08:26 |
| vmg3 | this has been a long time coming | Feb 28 08:26 |
| mjg59 | What if I say that the hacker community needs to fight the GLA, not take money from it? | Feb 28 08:26 |
| schestowitz__ | municipalities are hardly the big threat | Feb 28 08:27 |
| schestowitz__ | unless you are in the "anti-tax" "small government" camp | Feb 28 08:27 |
| mjg59 | The Met are a fucking big threat | Feb 28 08:27 |
| schestowitz__ | We don't do the Met | Feb 28 08:27 |
| mjg59 | The GLA does | Feb 28 08:27 |
| schestowitz__ | we guard GLA site from attacks and such | Feb 28 08:27 |
| mjg59 | Oh, so you do security for the organisation that oversees the racist police? | Feb 28 08:27 |
| schestowitz__ | a local government does many things | Feb 28 08:27 |
| schestowitz__ | and some are offloaded as contracts to private firms like g4s | Feb 28 08:28 |
| mjg59 | You see how easy this is? | Feb 28 08:28 |
| schestowitz__ | your layers of indirection here are astounding | Feb 28 08:28 |
| mjg59 | They're really not | Feb 28 08:28 |
| mjg59 | Anyway I'm going to bed | Feb 28 08:28 |
| schestowitz__ | that's like saying "I pay tax in the UK", hence I'm culpable for Diego Garcia fiasco | Feb 28 08:28 |
| vmg3 | goodnight mjg59 | Feb 28 08:28 |
| vmg3 | imperialism we are all part of the machine | Feb 28 08:29 |
| schestowitz__ | Mozilla too has surveillance people now | Feb 28 08:29 |
| schestowitz__ | but as a whole the company is less predatory than Google | Feb 28 08:30 |
| vmg3 | wonder how the tor camp feels about it | Feb 28 08:30 |
| schestowitz__ | they're mostly funded by it | Feb 28 08:30 |
| schestowitz__ | vmg3: Tor has some issues, too | Feb 28 08:30 |
| vmg3 | yeah | Feb 28 08:30 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't trust Tor enough to use it like I used to | Feb 28 08:30 |
| schestowitz__ | there are other ways | Feb 28 08:30 |
| vmg3 | even vpn's are getting harder to trust | Feb 28 08:31 |
| vmg3 | since covermyass | Feb 28 08:31 |
| schestowitz__ | oh yeah | Feb 28 08:32 |
| schestowitz__ | don't get me started on THAT snakeoil | Feb 28 08:32 |
| schestowitz__ | all the major ones log | Feb 28 08:32 |
| schestowitz__ | and given a court order they hand over the data | Feb 28 08:32 |
| schestowitz__ | which mostly beats the purpose of VPN | Feb 28 08:32 |
| schestowitz__ | waste of electricity | Feb 28 08:32 |
| vmg3 | i shudder to think to much about it | Feb 28 08:32 |
| vmg3 | better than my isp knowing what i'm up to | Feb 28 08:32 |
| schestowitz__ | instead of ISPs offering privacy... | Feb 28 08:33 |
| schestowitz__ | now they say. | Feb 28 08:33 |
| schestowitz__ | Pay the ISP | Feb 28 08:33 |
| schestowitz__ | then pay another shadow 'ISP' | Feb 28 08:33 |
| schestowitz__ | pay twice over | Feb 28 08:33 |
| vmg3 | only send encrypted data | Feb 28 08:33 |
| schestowitz__ | to get fake 'privacy' | Feb 28 08:33 |
| vmg3 | privacy is a personal thing | Feb 28 08:33 |
| schestowitz__ | some ISPs alreayd charge premium for 'privacy' | Feb 28 08:33 |
| vmg3 | responsibility to | Feb 28 08:34 |
| schestowitz__ | and they don't let you verify they honour their claims | Feb 28 08:34 |
| vmg3 | yeah but technically there should be no way of knowing | Feb 28 08:34 |
| schestowitz__ | This IRC chat is not private | Feb 28 08:34 |
| vmg3 | of course | Feb 28 08:34 |
| schestowitz__ | but when it comes to thinks like dating sites and family chats.... | Feb 28 08:34 |
| vmg3 | look how many people use nest and alexa | Feb 28 08:35 |
| schestowitz__ | so over a line that is not encrypted you end up talking just football and stuff | Feb 28 08:35 |
| schestowitz__ | vmg3: marketing | Feb 28 08:35 |
| schestowitz__ | "Smart" | Feb 28 08:35 |
| schestowitz__ | makes you "smart' | Feb 28 08:35 |
| schestowitz__ | your fake friends will be very impression | Feb 28 08:35 |
| vmg3 | yeah i got mine with a home delivery for free | Feb 28 08:35 |
| schestowitz__ | and buy coke | Feb 28 08:35 |
| schestowitz__ | it shows you have the "means' | Feb 28 08:35 |
| vmg3 | sits in a cupboard | Feb 28 08:35 |
| schestowitz__ | governments like tnose | Feb 28 08:36 |
| schestowitz__ | amazon works with them | Feb 28 08:36 |
| schestowitz__ | so they won't outlaw those | Feb 28 08:36 |
| vmg3 | rodreguez sang about this back in the 70's | Feb 28 08:36 |
| schestowitz__ | Google has its own too | Feb 28 08:36 |
| schestowitz__ | you have choice | Feb 28 08:36 |
| schestowitz__ | MSFT killed off its own | Feb 28 08:36 |
| schestowitz__ | it was a failure | Feb 28 08:36 |
| schestowitz__ | not because they care about privacy | Feb 28 08:37 |
| vmg3 | the man | Feb 28 08:37 |
| schestowitz__ | Apple, Google and Amazon are still in it | Feb 28 08:37 |
| techrights-ipfs | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▃▃▅▅▄▇▄▅▅▃▃▃▄▅▅▅▆▅▃▁▅▆▅▄▆▃▃▄▅▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 23.60 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▃▂▁▂▁▂▃▁▂▂▁▂▂▄▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▁█▁▂▂▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 13.06▕ swarm size (avg): 118.37 ⟲ | Feb 28 08:37 |
| vmg3 | I wonder about the love you can't find And I wonder about the loneliness that's mine I wonder how much going have you got And I wonder about your friends that are not | Feb 28 08:37 |
| schestowitz__ | CIA made these listening devices in the 70s; | Feb 28 08:37 |
| schestowitz__ | it's not innovation, it is 50 year old tech | Feb 28 08:38 |
| vmg3 | yeah | Feb 28 08:38 |
| vmg3 | they have auctions flogging off all that stuff now | Feb 28 08:38 |
| vmg3 | goes for a fortune | Feb 28 08:38 |
| schestowitz__ | these are blackmail tools | Feb 28 08:39 |
| schestowitz__ | or espionage in the political and industrial context | Feb 28 08:39 |
| schestowitz__ | you can see lobbying works | Feb 28 08:39 |
| schestowitz__ | because it's allowed | Feb 28 08:39 |
| vmg3 | yeah | Feb 28 08:39 |
| schestowitz__ | and they can openly ADverTISE this | Feb 28 08:39 |
| vmg3 | even trump | Feb 28 08:39 |
| vmg3 | pee pee | Feb 28 08:39 |
| schestowitz__ | MLK | Feb 28 08:40 |
| schestowitz__ | FBI | Feb 28 08:40 |
| vmg3 | epstien tapes are out there somewhere | Feb 28 08:40 |
| schestowitz__ | CoINTELPRO | Feb 28 08:40 |
| schestowitz__ | Hoover | Feb 28 08:40 |
| schestowitz__ | Edgar | Feb 28 08:40 |
| vmg3 | and this is all 1st level stuff | Feb 28 08:40 |
| vmg3 | its deeper | Feb 28 08:41 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/30/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-homicide-autopsy-michael-baden.html | Feb 28 08:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Epstein’s Autopsy ‘Points to Homicide,’ Pathologist Hired by Brother Claims - The New York Times | Feb 28 08:41 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html | Feb 28 08:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times | Feb 28 08:41 | |
| schestowitz__ | Epstein BRAGGED he had dirt on people | Feb 28 08:41 |
| vmg3 | borrowed lolita express a few times | Feb 28 08:41 |
| vmg3 | to go to africa | Feb 28 08:41 |
| schestowitz__ | I thought only FL | Feb 28 08:42 |
| vmg3 | I just going from my memory | Feb 28 08:42 |
| schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2020/08/09/freger-abc-news-faa/ | Feb 28 08:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Even the Mainstream/Corporate Media is Trying to Study Why (or If) Bill Gates and Epstein’s Sex Abuse Ring Were Closely Connected | Techrights | Feb 28 08:42 | |
| vmg3 | could be mistaken | Feb 28 08:42 |
| schestowitz__ | no updates on this | Feb 28 08:42 |
| schestowitz__ | lately he has only been spamming his media with "Saves the World" BS | Feb 28 08:43 |
| schestowitz__ | helps drown out the signal | Feb 28 08:43 |
| vmg3 | i fly a private jet but you should be a good citizen | Feb 28 08:43 |
| vmg3 | fuck him | Feb 28 08:44 |
| vmg3 | most people think im weird for not using m$ | Feb 28 08:44 |
| schestowitz__ | Weeks after the MIT scandal unfolded this happened http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/police-report-bill-gates/ | Feb 28 08:44 |
| vmg3 | no everybody | Feb 28 08:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mansion of Pedophilia – Part II: Dr. Stallman Defamed in the Media One Day After Request Made for King County Sheriff’s Office to Divulge Information About Pedophilia in Home of Bill Gates | Techrights | Feb 28 08:44 | |
| schestowitz__ | nobody uses Microsoft | Feb 28 08:45 |
| schestowitz__ | Microsoft uses everyone | Feb 28 08:45 |
| vmg3 | yeah no surprise the same with assange | Feb 28 08:45 |
| vmg3 | he's a rapist | Feb 28 08:45 |
| vmg3 | ahhh | Feb 28 08:45 |
| vmg3 | no he caught you murdering | Feb 28 08:45 |
| schestowitz__ | wait | Feb 28 08:46 |
| schestowitz__ | worse | Feb 28 08:46 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/art | Feb 28 08:47 |
| vmg3 | APT reuters run fake stories to muddy the water | Feb 28 08:47 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article124566504.html | Feb 28 08:47 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article110904727.html | Feb 28 08:47 |
| vmg3 | broken link | Feb 28 08:47 |
| schestowitz__ | https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/wikileaks-threatens-cnn-with-defamation-lawsuit-after-assange-called-pedophile-on-live-tv/ | Feb 28 08:47 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.rt.com/usa/372789-cnn-apology-assange-wikileaks-pedophile/ | Feb 28 08:47 |
| vmg3 | that works | Feb 28 08:47 |
| schestowitz__ | The bot is very slow | Feb 28 08:47 |
| vmg3 | just mud | Feb 28 08:48 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe CNN doing something | Feb 28 08:48 |
| vmg3 | guardian | Feb 28 08:48 |
| vmg3 | they are all in it | Feb 28 08:48 |
| vmg3 | murdoch hacks phones and is to old to be brought to account | Feb 28 08:48 |
| schestowitz__ | dead girls' phones | Feb 28 08:49 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe it makes him horny | Feb 28 08:49 |
| schestowitz__ | iirc, it was a lady who worked for him that oversaw it | Feb 28 08:49 |
| schestowitz__ | and was arrested | Feb 28 08:49 |
| vmg3 | yeah .. shit i hadnt seen this mcclatchydc stuff before | Feb 28 08:49 |
| schestowitz__ | the "big fish" is never arrested | Feb 28 08:49 |
| schestowitz__ | Gates' engineer was arrested for pedophila | Feb 28 08:50 |
| vmg3 | to big to fail | Feb 28 08:50 |
| schestowitz__ | he worked at Bill's home | Feb 28 08:50 |
| schestowitz__ | Bill was never even questioned about it | Feb 28 08:50 |
| vmg3 | blame others for what you're doing | Feb 28 08:51 |
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| vmg3 | straight out of the playbook | Feb 28 08:51 |
| schestowitz__ | ah, that makes sense now | Feb 28 08:51 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | Feb 28 08:51 |
| vmg3 | china | Feb 28 08:51 |
| schestowitz__ | bot reinstated | Feb 28 08:52 |
| schestowitz__ | some site was poisoning it | Feb 28 08:52 |
| vmg3 | the bot? | Feb 28 08:52 |
| schestowitz__ | it's a good thing BBC didn't call Julian Assange "pedophile" | Feb 28 08:52 |
| schestowitz__ | they wouldn't want us to bring up Jimmy Savile again | Feb 28 08:52 |
| schestowitz__ | they hope we forgot about the cover-up | Feb 28 08:52 |
| vmg3 | yeah dirty fucker | Feb 28 08:52 |
| vmg3 | s | Feb 28 08:52 |
| schestowitz__ | screwing unconscious little girls | Feb 28 08:53 |
| schestowitz__ | and they knew | Feb 28 08:53 |
| vmg3 | they just donate to a police department | Feb 28 08:53 |
| vmg3 | $$ fixes most crimes | Feb 28 08:54 |
| vmg3 | UNCLOS? no not a member | Feb 28 08:54 |
| schestowitz__ | who donates? | Feb 28 08:55 |
| schestowitz__ | BBC!? | Feb 28 08:55 |
| schestowitz__ | They take our money vvia TV Licensing | Feb 28 08:55 |
| vmg3 | yeah that kind of thing | Feb 28 08:55 |
| schestowitz__ | and then, IN ADDITION, take BRIBES from BIll Gates and who knows who else... | Feb 28 08:55 |
| schestowitz__ | nto once | Feb 28 08:56 |
| schestowitz__ | with repeats | Feb 28 08:56 |
| vmg3 | gifts | Feb 28 08:56 |
| schestowitz__ | so they need to be soft on him | Feb 28 08:56 |
| schestowitz__ | otherwise he stops the bribes | Feb 28 08:56 |
| vmg3 | and the stories | Feb 28 08:56 |
| schestowitz__ | the BBC is corrupt, I've stopped using their site even to access weather | Feb 28 08:56 |
| vmg3 | throw them scraps | Feb 28 08:56 |
| schestowitz__ | now it's like a sales department for vaccine companies that sell them at 100 the production cost | Feb 28 08:56 |
| vmg3 | tory fan club | Feb 28 08:57 |
| schestowitz__ | not sure about AU's ABC | Feb 28 08:57 |
| schestowitz__ | AFAIK, they did not receive Gates bribes (yet) | Feb 28 08:57 |
| vmg3 | just as infected | Feb 28 08:57 |
| schestowitz__ | Gaurdian did | Feb 28 08:57 |
| vmg3 | guardian were the ones that released all the files first | Feb 28 08:57 |
| vmg3 | and cryptome | Feb 28 08:57 |
| schestowitz__ | techrighrs boycotts guardian | Feb 28 08:58 |
| vmg3 | then ragged on julian | Feb 28 08:58 |
| vmg3 | they paint pictures | Feb 28 08:58 |
| techrights-bot | #IRC Proceedings: Saturday, February 27, 2021 • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/irc-log-270221/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/02/28/irc-log-270221/ | Feb 28 08:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, February 27, 2021 | Techrights | Feb 28 08:58 | |
| techrights-bot | #Google Judge Disturbed That ‘Incognito’ Users Are Tracked https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-26/google-judge-disturbed-that-even-incognito-users-are-tracked | Feb 28 08:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Feb 28 08:59 | |
| techrights-bot | #patent #law gone insane or misused https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1040670/review-of-epo-parameter-decisions-in-2020 | Feb 28 08:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Review Of EPO Parameter Decisions In 2020 - Intellectual Property - UK | Feb 28 08:59 | |
| vmg3 | we have a raging stockmarket and dollar but nobody mentions a crumbling US dollar | Feb 28 08:59 |
| vmg3 | quantitative easing | Feb 28 09:00 |
| techrights-bot | #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, February 27, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Feb 28 09:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Feb 28 09:00 | |
| vmg3 | IP's have nothing to do with products only market prices | Feb 28 09:01 |
| techrights-bot | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Feb 28 09:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Feb 28 09:01 | |
| techrights-bot | #ManagingIP , the corrupt think tank of #patent extremists, is selling articles to #Inspicos (and of course they still defend corrupt #EPO administration, which besieges the judges to rob the Boards of their autonomy) https://www.managingip.com/article/b1qmdqsn4g766t/epo-non-proven-facts-introduced-ex-officio | Feb 28 09:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | EPO: Non-proven facts introduced ex officio | Managing Intellectual Property | Feb 28 09:02 | |
| techrights-bot | #BlackHistoryMonth Streams 2021 https://howiehawkins.us/black-history-month-streams-2021/ | Feb 28 09:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-howiehawkins.us | Black History Month Streams 2021 | Howie Hawkins for our Future | Feb 28 09:02 | |
| vmg3 | trying to wind me up | Feb 28 09:02 |
| vmg3 | this is why twitter loves you | Feb 28 09:03 |
| techrights-bot | Such a weird new article from a "LINUX" site. How about neither? #DNS itself is problematic and I'm increasingly exploring ways around it, e.g. #IPFS https://www.fosslinux.com/45397/opendns-vs-google-dns.htm | Feb 28 09:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslinux.com | OpenDNS vs. Google DNS: everything you need to know | FOSS Linux | Feb 28 09:03 | |
| vmg3 | there are plenty of people out there that see the problem but nothing ever happens | Feb 28 09:05 |
| vmg3 | problems | Feb 28 09:05 |
| vmg3 | I get called a communist | Feb 28 09:05 |
| vmg3 | I am envious of some of Chinas methods | Feb 28 09:06 |
| techrights-bot | #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148227 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 09:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 28 09:06 | |
| techrights-bot | #Ubuntu 21.04 ( #HirsuteHippo ) Enters Feature Freeze, Beta Expected on April 1st • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148226 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 09:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.04 (Hirsute Hippo) Enters Feature Freeze, Beta Expected on April 1st | Tux Machines | Feb 28 09:06 | |
| schestowitz__ | [08:59] <vmg3> we have a raging stockmarket and dollar but nobody mentions a crumbling US dollar | Feb 28 09:07 |
| schestowitz__ | petrodollar is an issue too, as oil lost its value | Feb 28 09:07 |
| schestowitz__ | so what do they still sell in dollars? Weapons? | Feb 28 09:07 |
| vmg3 | yeah and Australia props it up along with 5eyes | Feb 28 09:07 |
| vmg3 | inalienable rights | Feb 28 09:08 |
| schestowitz__ | UStralia | Feb 28 09:08 |
| schestowitz__ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Gap | Feb 28 09:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Pine Gap - Wikipedia | Feb 28 09:08 | |
| vmg3 | yeah another shame for the public | Feb 28 09:09 |
| vmg3 | that ties in with gough whitlam | Feb 28 09:09 |
| vmg3 | and the queen | Feb 28 09:09 |
| vmg3 | gough wanted the US out | Feb 28 09:10 |
| schestowitz__ | https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=20/11/12/1652218 | Feb 28 09:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Australian Parliament to Probe Rupert Murdoch’s Media Dominance - SoylentNews | Feb 28 09:10 | |
| vmg3 | now the public just got to see the letters and we're expected to believe they didn't use a phone | Feb 28 09:10 |
| vmg3 | you are prolific poster dude | Feb 28 09:11 |
| vmg3 | i dig it | Feb 28 09:11 |
| schestowitz__ | money still runs the system https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/28/rupert-murdoch-ordered-editors-to-kill-whitlam-according-to-us-envoy | Feb 28 09:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Rupert Murdoch ordered editors to 'kill Whitlam', according to US envoy | Australian politics | The Guardian | Feb 28 09:11 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2672896/Rupert-Murdoch-ordered-newspaper-editors-kill-PM.html | Feb 28 09:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Rupert Murdoch ordered his newspaper editors to 'Kill Whitlam' in 1975 | Daily Mail Online | Feb 28 09:12 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.smh.com.au/national/murdoch-editors-told-to-kill-whitlam-in-1975-20140627-zson7.html | Feb 28 09:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smh.com.au | Murdoch editors told to 'kill Whitlam' in 1975 | Feb 28 09:12 | |
| schestowitz__ | now GAFAM do the same | Feb 28 09:12 |
| vmg3 | its a lesson to everyone out there | Feb 28 09:12 |
| schestowitz__ | blackmailing the government of another country to write the law for them | Feb 28 09:12 |
| vmg3 | keep your fucking mouth closed | Feb 28 09:12 |
| schestowitz__ | and Microsoft lobbies to favour Microsoft | Feb 28 09:12 |
| schestowitz__ | by blocking their rivals | Feb 28 09:12 |
| schestowitz__ | just because money | Feb 28 09:12 |
| vmg3 | yup | Feb 28 09:12 |
| schestowitz__ | as if Australia isn't run by and for anything but capital | Feb 28 09:13 |
| schestowitz__ | vmg3: it's why few politicians would have to courage to name bill gates issues | Feb 28 09:13 |
| schestowitz__ | they would nowadays likely be portrayed as emboldening "qanon" or something | Feb 28 09:13 |
| vmg3 | how can we afford to throw away %35 of our trade? | Feb 28 09:13 |
| vmg3 | ffs | Feb 28 09:13 |
| schestowitz__ | by publishers liek guardian and bbc bribes by Gates | Feb 28 09:14 |
| vmg3 | disinformation is wearing us down | Feb 28 09:14 |
| schestowitz__ | well, people seek alternatives | Feb 28 09:14 |
| vmg3 | people switch off | Feb 28 09:14 |
| schestowitz__ | so there is hope | Feb 28 09:14 |
| schestowitz__ | until they try to undermine the alternatives too | Feb 28 09:14 |
| schestowitz__ | many they will call gemini "dark web" is password-restricted access gets added | Feb 28 09:15 |
| vmg3 | now with the media code they prop up murdoch further | Feb 28 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | *maybe | Feb 28 09:15 |
| vmg3 | i would love to see it grow | Feb 28 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | social control media now favours "big sites" | Feb 28 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | and "celeb" users | Feb 28 09:15 |
| vmg3 | but FB is all they want | Feb 28 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | not those who are harmful to advertising budget | Feb 28 09:15 |
| schestowitz__ | so people need to get off their social control networks too | Feb 28 09:16 |
| schestowitz__ | and many d | Feb 28 09:16 |
| schestowitz__ | *do | Feb 28 09:16 |
| schestowitz__ | they try to restrict things like "RIPTwitter" | Feb 28 09:16 |
| schestowitz__ | people talk offline however | Feb 28 09:16 |
| vmg3 | yeah many is still only a drop in the bucket | Feb 28 09:16 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe less during COVID | Feb 28 09:16 |
| schestowitz__ | but people will eventually move on | Feb 28 09:16 |
| schestowitz__ | the old media died | Feb 28 09:16 |
| vmg3 | change hurts people | Feb 28 09:16 |
| schestowitz__ | now we need to kill off their successors, like GAFAM | Feb 28 09:16 |
| vmg3 | tell me how | Feb 28 09:17 |
| schestowitz__ | can't wait to see what they will try next | Feb 28 09:17 |
| vmg3 | i support a few indy outlets | Feb 28 09:17 |
| schestowitz__ | there's talk of banning private chats | Feb 28 09:17 |
| vmg3 | it only spreads so far | Feb 28 09:17 |
| schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2020/08/14/control-but-no-accountability/ | Feb 28 09:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | High-Level Criminals Associate Privacy With Crime Because They Want Privacy Only for Themselves (Control But No Accountability) | Techrights | Feb 28 09:17 | |
| schestowitz__ | because... people talk "and stuff" | Feb 28 09:17 |
| vmg3 | well yeah most places i go its for the comments | Feb 28 09:17 |
| schestowitz__ | and talk leads to violence "or something" | Feb 28 09:18 |
| vmg3 | discourse | Feb 28 09:18 |
| vmg3 | something | Feb 28 09:18 |
| vmg3 | haha | Feb 28 09:18 |
| schestowitz__ | it started with people talking | Feb 28 09:18 |
| schestowitz__ | and then planes crash into buildings | Feb 28 09:19 |
| schestowitz__ | privacy is for terrorists, obviously | Feb 28 09:19 |
| vmg3 | oh fuck | Feb 28 09:19 |
| vmg3 | the law | Feb 28 09:19 |
| vmg3 | terrorists are just criminals | Feb 28 09:19 |
| vmg3 | we didnt need an endless war | Feb 28 09:19 |
| vmg3 | fooled by a word | Feb 28 09:20 |
| vmg3 | murder is still murder | Feb 28 09:20 |
| vmg3 | i need a beer | Feb 28 09:21 |
| vmg3 | torture and rendition | Feb 28 09:22 |
| vmg3 | that the real crime | Feb 28 09:22 |
| vmg3 | spying on allies | Feb 28 09:22 |
| vmg3 | fucking them over for profit | Feb 28 09:23 |
| schestowitz__ | crime is a weird word | Feb 28 09:23 |
| schestowitz__ | it's associated with poor people | Feb 28 09:23 |
| schestowitz__ | there are words like corruption | Feb 28 09:23 |
| schestowitz__ | or white-collar crime | Feb 28 09:23 |
| schestowitz__ | so that Zuckerberg doesn't get called a criminal | Feb 28 09:23 |
| vmg3 | yeah, are you a philosopher? | Feb 28 09:23 |
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| schestowitz__ | the person who steals a bottle of milk gets called that | Feb 28 09:24 |
| vmg3 | you hit the nail hard | Feb 28 09:24 |
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| schestowitz__ | Johnson is just a 'confused' and clumsy clown | Feb 28 09:24 |
| schestowitz__ | not a Prime Minister | Feb 28 09:24 |
| schestowitz__ | he doesn't bomb anyone | Feb 28 09:24 |
| vmg3 | front man | Feb 28 09:24 |
| vmg3 | all leaders in the west seem to be puppets | Feb 28 09:25 |
| schestowitz__ | screwing his PA | Feb 28 09:25 |
| schestowitz__ | but asks us to trust him n COVID | Feb 28 09:25 |
| schestowitz__ | which he was eager to contract | Feb 28 09:25 |
| vmg3 | look how corybin got screwed over | Feb 28 09:25 |
| schestowitz__ | even impregnating his PA | Feb 28 09:25 |
| schestowitz__ | cory-bin LOL | Feb 28 09:25 |
| schestowitz__ | the tabloid called him Cor-BIN the night before the election | Feb 28 09:25 |
| schestowitz__ | painting a cartoon of him in the bin | Feb 28 09:26 |
| schestowitz__ | classy | Feb 28 09:26 |
| vmg3 | how the fuck can the tories still lead in the polls | Feb 28 09:26 |
| schestowitz__ | old voters | Feb 28 09:26 |
| vmg3 | living in fear | Feb 28 09:26 |
| vmg3 | the muslims the blacks the hoons | Feb 28 09:26 |
| vmg3 | the unemployed | Feb 28 09:27 |
| vmg3 | the immigrants | Feb 28 09:27 |
| vmg3 | they want to eat your babies | Feb 28 09:27 |
| schestowitz__ | after raping them | Feb 28 09:27 |
| vmg3 | yeah haha | Feb 28 09:27 |
| schestowitz__ | and poking them with sticks | Feb 28 09:27 |
| schestowitz__ | "their culture" | Feb 28 09:27 |
| schestowitz__ | we come with rifles | Feb 28 09:27 |
| schestowitz__ | they resist with spears | Feb 28 09:28 |
| schestowitz__ | spears kill | Feb 28 09:28 |
| vmg3 | who cares we bombed the shit out of them | Feb 28 09:28 |
| schestowitz__ | rifles "pacify" | Feb 28 09:28 |
| vmg3 | if we spend half a billion on our war memorial that will help | Feb 28 09:28 |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #uniToronto #Standards ☞ The #HTTP Referer header is fading away (at least as a useful thing) https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/web/FadingHTTPReferer | Feb 28 09:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/web/FadingHTTPReferer | Feb 28 09:29 | |
| vmg3 | we even have secret courts now here | Feb 28 09:29 |
| schestowitz__ | most countries seem to | Feb 28 09:30 |
| schestowitz__ | that I know of | Feb 28 09:30 |
| schestowitz__ | the courts themselves are a bit of a secret | Feb 28 09:30 |
| schestowitz__ | so it takes some digging | Feb 28 09:30 |
| schestowitz__ | they cite "national security" typically | Feb 28 09:30 |
| schestowitz__ | they also classify some prisoners that way | Feb 28 09:30 |
| schestowitz__ | so they're incommunicado and sort of "disappeared" | Feb 28 09:30 |
| schestowitz__ | like in China | Feb 28 09:30 |
| schestowitz__ | secrecy is still a thing | Feb 28 09:31 |
| schestowitz__ | and Assange is still in Belmarsh prison, so that's one heck of a deterrent to all else | Feb 28 09:31 |
| vmg3 | sucks | Feb 28 09:31 |
| schestowitz__ | no news since 2019 https://wikileaks.org/-News-.html | Feb 28 09:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wikileaks.org | WikiLeaks - News | Feb 28 09:31 | |
| vmg3 | and the media is mute | Feb 28 09:31 |
| schestowitz__ | No leaks since 2018 https://wikileaks.org/-Leaks-.html | Feb 28 09:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wikileaks.org | WikiLeaks - Leaks | Feb 28 09:31 | |
| vmg3 | a few small snippets | Feb 28 09:31 |
| schestowitz__ | but they don't list some | Feb 28 09:31 |
| schestowitz__ | like the fish scandal in Africa | Feb 28 09:32 |
| schestowitz__ | they don't even seem to maintain their site any longer | Feb 28 09:32 |
| vmg3 | paid off? | Feb 28 09:32 |
| schestowitz__ | no | Feb 28 09:32 |
| schestowitz__ | scared | Feb 28 09:32 |
| vmg3 | maybe with good reason | Feb 28 09:32 |
| schestowitz__ | they sent threatening letters to many who were at any point associated with WL | Feb 28 09:32 |
| schestowitz__ | in france, Germany... | Feb 28 09:32 |
| schestowitz__ | "or else" | Feb 28 09:33 |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #Buttondown #Science ☞ What math is waiting for the world to catch up to? https://buttondown.email/j2kun/archive/what-math-is-waiting-for-the-world-to-catch-up-to/ | Feb 28 09:33 |
| vmg3 | they tell us things are to sensitive | Feb 28 09:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-buttondown.email | What math is waiting for the world to catch up to? | Feb 28 09:33 | |
| vmg3 | the foi system is broken | Feb 28 09:34 |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #IndiaTimes #ProprietarySoftware ☞ Google fires 150 game developers hired for #Stadia : Report https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/google-fires-150-game-developers-hired-for-stadia-report/81244590 | Feb 28 09:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | google stadia: Google fires 150 game developers hired for Stadia: Report, IT News, ET CIO | Feb 28 09:34 | |
| *mmu_man (~revol@82-65-227-82.subs.proxad.net) has joined #techrights | Feb 28 09:37 | |
| vmg3 | that lagrange browser is quite nice to use someone should flatpak it | Feb 28 09:42 |
| schestowitz__ | it is | Feb 28 09:44 |
| schestowitz__ | I installed it | Feb 28 09:44 |
| schestowitz__ | but need to reboot to run it | Feb 28 09:44 |
| schestowitz__ | because, you know, flatpak | Feb 28 09:44 |
| schestowitz__ | I saw a report about it taking ove GB od RAM | Feb 28 09:45 |
| vmg3 | i cmake it | Feb 28 09:45 |
| schestowitz__ | due to a bug, obviously | Feb 28 09:45 |
| vmg3 | no reboot required | Feb 28 09:45 |
| schestowitz__ | https://flathub.org/apps/details/fi.skyjake.Lagrange | Feb 28 09:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-flathub.org | Flathub—An app store and build service for Linux | Feb 28 09:45 | |
| vmg3 | oh i did a search | Feb 28 09:45 |
| schestowitz__ | it's one Finnish dev's work | Feb 28 09:45 |
| vmg3 | and on snap | Feb 28 09:45 |
| schestowitz__ | but for now I focus on Amfora | Feb 28 09:45 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe one day I'll reboot and run this | Feb 28 09:45 |
| schestowitz__ | roy@vonick:~$ flatpak run fi.skyjake.Lagrange | Feb 28 09:46 |
| schestowitz__ | Note that the directories | Feb 28 09:46 |
| vmg3 | stupid me trying the bash client first | Feb 28 09:46 |
| schestowitz__ | '/var/lib/flatpak/exports/share' | Feb 28 09:46 |
| schestowitz__ | '/home/roy/.local/share/flatpak/exports/share' | Feb 28 09:46 |
| schestowitz__ | are not in the search path set by the XDG_DATA_DIRS environment variable, so | Feb 28 09:46 |
| schestowitz__ | applications installed by Flatpak may not appear on your desktop until the | Feb 28 09:46 |
| schestowitz__ | session is restarted. | Feb 28 09:46 |
| schestowitz__ | Welcome to Microsoft Linux | Feb 28 09:46 |
| vmg3 | oh | Feb 28 09:46 |
| schestowitz__ | you can use gemini over ssh kiosk | Feb 28 09:47 |
| schestowitz__ | 3 cli clients | Feb 28 09:47 |
| schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2021/02/18/gemini-with-ssh/ | Feb 28 09:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How to Try Gemini Without Installing Any New Software (and Without World Wide Web Gateways) | Techrights | Feb 28 09:47 | |
| vmg3 | you have me flat out figuring out shit | Feb 28 09:48 |
| vmg3 | i guess its good only had 50 tabs open | Feb 28 09:48 |
| vmg3 | then trying to configure things | Feb 28 09:48 |
| vmg3 | my typing is woeful compared you to | Feb 28 09:49 |
| vmg3 | you must be 100wpm | Feb 28 09:49 |
| schestowitz__ | yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes | Feb 28 09:49 |
| schestowitz__ | depending on the word :-) | Feb 28 09:49 |
| vmg3 | lol | Feb 28 09:49 |
| schestowitz__ | i i i i i i i i i | Feb 28 09:49 |
| vmg3 | dont worry i notice these things | Feb 28 09:50 |
| vmg3 | after a while | Feb 28 09:50 |
| schestowitz__ | Ariadne types very fast | Feb 28 09:50 |
| vmg3 | my first wife taught me | Feb 28 09:50 |
| schestowitz__ | some software lets you see how people type while they di | Feb 28 09:50 |
| schestowitz__ | *do | Feb 28 09:50 |
| schestowitz__ | ICQ had that mode in the 1990s | Feb 28 09:50 |
| vmg3 | she was a demon on the keyboard | Feb 28 09:50 |
| schestowitz__ | ytalk still works that way | Feb 28 09:50 |
| schestowitz__ | no trigger to send | Feb 28 09:51 |
| vmg3 | direct | Feb 28 09:51 |
| schestowitz__ | typing fast can help you become a typist | Feb 28 09:51 |
| schestowitz__ | you can type lots of stuff | Feb 28 09:51 |
| schestowitz__ | like lies told to a judge | Feb 28 09:51 |
| schestowitz__ | (or by a judge) | Feb 28 09:51 |
| schestowitz__ | but what matters is the substance of the writing | Feb 28 09:52 |
| schestowitz__ | about 90% of the time I just read or code | Feb 28 09:52 |
| vmg3 | full disclosure ive never worked in tech | Feb 28 09:52 |
| vmg3 | i was transport | Feb 28 09:52 |
| vmg3 | now retired | Feb 28 09:52 |
| schestowitz__ | the writing is an accumulation of aggregation of things i learned | Feb 28 09:52 |
| schestowitz__ | people write about what they read | Feb 28 09:52 |
| schestowitz__ | the mind processes and connects facts | Feb 28 09:52 |
| vmg3 | it's an invaluable skill | Feb 28 09:52 |
| vmg3 | even my reading is terrible | Feb 28 09:53 |
| vmg3 | and talking | Feb 28 09:53 |
| vmg3 | lol | Feb 28 09:53 |
| schestowitz__ | meet oiaohm | Feb 28 09:53 |
| schestowitz__ | also an aussue | Feb 28 09:53 |
| vmg3 | bit rough around the edges | Feb 28 09:53 |
| schestowitz__ | aussie | Feb 28 09:53 |
| schestowitz__ | brilliant technically | Feb 28 09:53 |
| schestowitz__ | but dyslexic | Feb 28 09:53 |
| vmg3 | yeah that too but i'm german born | Feb 28 09:53 |
| schestowitz__ | oh, btw | Feb 28 09:53 |
| schestowitz__ | I must ask you | Feb 28 09:53 |
| vmg3 | moved here when i was a baby | Feb 28 09:53 |
| schestowitz__ | must | Feb 28 09:53 |
| schestowitz__ | about that apparently German aussie accused of rape | Feb 28 09:54 |
| schestowitz__ | someone I know is looking into it | Feb 28 09:54 |
| vmg3 | not me | Feb 28 09:54 |
| vmg3 | is this in government thing | Feb 28 09:54 |
| schestowitz__ | [08:50] <schestowitz__> > Former media advisor Brittany Higgins[1] went public about 2 weeks ago, | Feb 28 09:54 |
| schestowitz__ | [08:50] <schestowitz__> > claiming | Feb 28 09:54 |
| schestowitz__ | [08:50] <schestowitz__> > | Feb 28 09:54 |
| schestowitz__ | [08:50] <schestowitz__> > a) rape on the sofa of female defense minister, | Feb 28 09:54 |
| schestowitz__ | [08:50] <schestowitz__> > | Feb 28 09:55 |
| schestowitz__ | [08:50] <schestowitz__> > b) she didn't specify the suspect's name (Lehrmann), reports suggest her | Feb 28 09:55 |
| schestowitz__ | [08:50] <schestowitz__> > gripe is with the Government for helping suspect make a clean getaway, | Feb 28 09:55 |
| schestowitz__ | [08:50] <schestowitz__> > officials even steam cleaned the sofa before the police could check it | Feb 28 09:55 |
| vmg3 | yeah the advisor | Feb 28 09:55 |
| schestowitz__ | [08:50] <schestowitz__> > | Feb 28 09:55 |
| schestowitz__ | Are you familiar with this? | Feb 28 09:55 |
| schestowitz__ | we seek more input and fact-finding at the moment | Feb 28 09:55 |
| vmg3 | from what i've heard it has been narrowed down to a handfull of people | Feb 28 09:55 |
| schestowitz__ | [08:50] <schestowitz__> > The cover up is a story in itself, it involves the most senior officials | Feb 28 09:55 |
| schestowitz__ | [08:50] <schestowitz__> > in a G20 government, that potentially makes it a lot bigger than the | Feb 28 09:55 |
| schestowitz__ | [08:50] <schestowitz__> > Alex Salmond stuff. Australia also seems to have much more intense | Feb 28 09:55 |
| schestowitz__ | [08:50] <schestowitz__> > injunctions such as the Securency super-injunction and the injunction | Feb 28 09:55 |
| schestowitz__ | [08:50] <schestowitz__> > that concealed the case against Cardinal George Pell. | Feb 28 09:55 |
| *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Feb 28 09:55 | |
| schestowitz__ | [08:50] <schestowitz__> > | Feb 28 09:56 |
| schestowitz__ | [08:50] <schestowitz__> > https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/30/wikileaks-gag-order-open-justice-is-threatened-by-super-injuctions | Feb 28 09:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | WikiLeaks gag order: open justice is threatened by super-injunctions | Australia news | The Guardian | Feb 28 09:56 | |
| schestowitz__ | i can post more here | Feb 28 09:56 |
| schestowitz__ | but it's undergoing fact-funding | Feb 28 09:56 |
| schestowitz__ | *finding | Feb 28 09:56 |
| schestowitz__ | techrights might publlsh something soon | Feb 28 09:56 |
| vmg3 | to much of it | Feb 28 09:56 |
| *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Feb 28 09:56 | |
| schestowitz__ | I don't even know if Lehrmann is indeed dual national | Feb 28 09:56 |
| vmg3 | it should bring a few undone | Feb 28 09:56 |
| vmg3 | not the rape but the coverup | Feb 28 09:57 |
| schestowitz__ | dual nationals usually don't openly talk about it | Feb 28 09:57 |
| schestowitz__ | one MP, Scott Ludlam (surely I spell it wrong), lost his job over it | Feb 28 09:57 |
| schestowitz__ | born in NZ, iirc | Feb 28 09:57 |
| schestowitz__ | some Tony Abbott, IIRC, was dual (British) | Feb 28 09:57 |
| vmg3 | dual nationals are a tricky thing yeah i cant remember what code it under quite a few have fallen by the wayside | Feb 28 09:57 |
| vmg3 | 504 | Feb 28 09:57 |
| schestowitz__ | i know some triple nationals | Feb 28 09:58 |
| schestowitz__ | apparently it's an iffy legal ground | Feb 28 09:58 |
| schestowitz__ | and very exceptional | Feb 28 09:58 |
| schestowitz__ | usually the third one is acquired through a spouse | Feb 28 09:58 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe Peter Thiel is triple | Feb 28 09:58 |
| schestowitz__ | germany, us, nz | Feb 28 09:58 |
| vmg3 | sorry beer is better than searching | Feb 28 09:58 |
| vmg3 | but they are not allowed to be in the house | Feb 28 09:59 |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #NPR ☞ #Nigeria Authorities Searching For 317 Schoolgirls Kidnapped By 'Armed Bandits' https://text.npr.org/971796088 | Feb 28 09:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | Nigerian Authorities Searching For 317 Schoolgirls Kidnapped By 'Armed Bandits' | Feb 28 09:59 | |
| vmg3 | even some countries they get nationality from their mother | Feb 28 09:59 |
| vmg3 | barnaby joyce and jackie lambie | Feb 28 09:59 |
| vmg3 | they had to resign and come back | Feb 28 10:00 |
| schestowitz__ | the possibility comes from the plurality of what qualifies for naturalisation | Feb 28 10:00 |
| schestowitz__ | country of birth, parents, by marriage... | Feb 28 10:01 |
| vmg3 | british | Feb 28 10:01 |
| vmg3 | colony | Feb 28 10:01 |
| schestowitz__ | but the loyalty question is further complicated by this | Feb 28 10:01 |
| vmg3 | yeah | Feb 28 10:01 |
| schestowitz__ | esp. if one country goes to war with another | Feb 28 10:01 |
| schestowitz__ | like dual british-german | Feb 28 10:01 |
| vmg3 | our treasure is under a cloud to hungarian | Feb 28 10:01 |
| vmg3 | josh frydenberg dodgy paperwork claims stateless | Feb 28 10:02 |
| vmg3 | from his mother | Feb 28 10:02 |
| vmg3 | weird rule | Feb 28 10:02 |
| DVulgaris | My friend happens to be a triple national - just pure lucj | Feb 28 10:03 |
| schestowitz__ | usually wide and family roots | Feb 28 10:03 |
| vmg3 | that is cool DVulgaris | Feb 28 10:03 |
| schestowitz__ | *wife/husband | Feb 28 10:03 |
| vmg3 | bring on the passports | Feb 28 10:03 |
| schestowitz__ | "which one!" | Feb 28 10:03 |
| vmg3 | mother or father automatically gives to descendants | Feb 28 10:04 |
| vmg3 | even when child born here | Feb 28 10:05 |
| schestowitz__ | little practical advantage | Feb 28 10:05 |
| schestowitz__ | except in economic ruin or war | Feb 28 10:05 |
| schestowitz__ | so you can 'defect' to another sovereign state | Feb 28 10:05 |
| vmg3 | more a disadvantage | Feb 28 10:05 |
| vmg3 | i've never used my german citizenship | Feb 28 10:06 |
| schestowitz__ | people would not easily accept you as asylum seeker if you just flee poverty | Feb 28 10:06 |
| schestowitz__ | war? maybe. sometimes... | Feb 28 10:06 |
| vmg3 | conscription | Feb 28 10:06 |
| schestowitz__ | vmg3: it's helping to travel some countries without visa | Feb 28 10:06 |
| schestowitz__ | schengen for once | Feb 28 10:06 |
| vmg3 | if i was a big traveller i'd consider it | Feb 28 10:07 |
| schestowitz__ | Lots to see in .au itself | Feb 28 10:07 |
| schestowitz__ | no need to travel far | Feb 28 10:07 |
| vmg3 | covid put a damper on my travel | Feb 28 10:07 |
| vmg3 | yeah even tasmania has heaps and its small | Feb 28 10:08 |
| vmg3 | i ride a bicycle | Feb 28 10:08 |
| schestowitz__ | air mile fetishists love to say they flew to .au | Feb 28 10:08 |
| schestowitz__ | on a bicycle you are closer to nature | Feb 28 10:08 |
| vmg3 | i quite like asia | Feb 28 10:08 |
| schestowitz__ | just don't be near a motorway | Feb 28 10:08 |
| vmg3 | yeah | Feb 28 10:08 |
| schestowitz__ | if I wanted to be on a chair in a capsule, I'd be home | Feb 28 10:09 |
| schestowitz__ | planes are even worse | Feb 28 10:09 |
| vmg3 | and good for the heart | Feb 28 10:09 |
| schestowitz__ | you barely get an armrest | Feb 28 10:09 |
| schestowitz__ | if you are lucky, nobody sits next to you | Feb 28 10:09 |
| vmg3 | its horrible without valium | Feb 28 10:09 |
| vmg3 | i got the airmarshall last time | Feb 28 10:09 |
| schestowitz__ | and cars are not social symbols anymore | Feb 28 10:10 |
| schestowitz__ | or class symbols | Feb 28 10:10 |
| vmg3 | i save 100 buck a week | Feb 28 10:10 |
| schestowitz__ | unless they are "Smart" | Feb 28 10:10 |
| schestowitz__ | "oi matey! Is that SMART?" | Feb 28 10:10 |
| vmg3 | when i was driving all the time i never appreciated all the places i went it was all work work work | Feb 28 10:11 |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #SundayObserver #Environment ☞ MAS ‘Ocean strainer’ technology to be open source http://www.sundayobserver.lk/2021/02/28/business/mas-%E2%80%98ocean-strainer%E2%80%99-technology-be-open-source | Feb 28 10:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sundayobserver.lk | MAS ‘Ocean strainer’ technology to be open source | Sunday Observer | Feb 28 10:11 | |
| vmg3 | now i plod along with a smile | Feb 28 10:11 |
| vmg3 | i don't wear lycra | Feb 28 10:12 |
| vmg3 | I've got some but dont look good in it | Feb 28 10:13 |
| *DVulgaris has quit (Quit: Catch you later.) | Feb 28 10:13 | |
| vmg3 | ok on my 3rd beer things could get messy | Feb 28 10:13 |
| vmg3 | 2's normally my limit but someone wound me up | Feb 28 10:14 |
| *DVulgaris (~quassel@185.108.81.14) has joined #techrights | Feb 28 10:14 | |
| schestowitz__ | pints? | Feb 28 10:14 |
| schestowitz__ | I guess you say "POOOINTS" there | Feb 28 10:14 |
| schestowitz__ | and maybe the measure is even a little different | Feb 28 10:15 |
| schestowitz__ | beer is very high-calories beverage per alcohol unit | Feb 28 10:15 |
| vmg3 | 375ml cans | Feb 28 10:15 |
| schestowitz__ | wine is better | Feb 28 10:15 |
| vmg3 | whats a pint | Feb 28 10:15 |
| schestowitz__ | about 560ml | Feb 28 10:15 |
| vmg3 | maybe a glass every now and then | Feb 28 10:16 |
| schestowitz__ | in the UK | Feb 28 10:16 |
| schestowitz__ | let me check what is means where... | Feb 28 10:16 |
| vmg3 | i'd be dead after 3 | Feb 28 10:16 |
| schestowitz__ | " a liquid pint (≈ 473 ml) and a less-common dry pint (≈ 551 ml)" https://www.cxotoday.com/ashojoac/2021/01/foss-750x450.jpeg | Feb 28 10:16 |
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| schestowitz__ | " In Commonwealth countries it may be a British imperial pint of 568 ml" | Feb 28 10:16 |
| schestowitz__ | What's what I drink tea in | Feb 28 10:16 |
| vmg3 | we call them schooner or pot for a can | Feb 28 10:16 |
| schestowitz__ | *That's | Feb 28 10:17 |
| vmg3 | in my younger days i could put a few away | Feb 28 10:17 |
| schestowitz__ | Turns out the word is actually French: "Pint comes from the Old French word pinte and perhaps ultimately from Vulgar Latin pincta meaning "painted", for marks painted on the side of a container to show capacity.[7] It is linguistically related, though greatly diverging in meaning, to Pinto – an Italian, Spanish, and Portuguese name for a person with a speckled or dark complexion, often used as a surname in these languages." | Feb 28 10:17 |
| vmg3 | but pommie beer is not the best | Feb 28 10:18 |
| vmg3 | :P | Feb 28 10:18 |
| schestowitz__ | "South Australian pint425 ml425 ml" | Feb 28 10:18 |
| schestowitz__ | Wow, there are like a dozen different pints | Feb 28 10:18 |
| schestowitz__ | I thought only about 3 | Feb 28 10:18 |
| vmg3 | yeah it gets warm if the glass is to big | Feb 28 10:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Flemish pintje | Feb 28 10:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Israel | Feb 28 10:19 |
| vmg3 | lots of people nurse their glass | Feb 28 10:19 |
| schestowitz__ | India | Feb 28 10:19 |
| schestowitz__ | South Australian pint | Feb 28 10:19 |
| schestowitz__ | US liquid pint | Feb 28 10:19 |
| schestowitz__ | US dry pint | Feb 28 10:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Imperial pint | Feb 28 10:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Australian pint | Feb 28 10:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Royal pint or pinte du roi | Feb 28 10:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Canadian pinte de bière | Feb 28 10:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Scottish pint or joug (obsolete) | Feb 28 10:19 |
| vmg3 | wow | Feb 28 10:19 |
| schestowitz__ | lol | Feb 28 10:19 |
| schestowitz__ | even one for Aussie, one for South Aussie | Feb 28 10:19 |
| schestowitz__ | for a country of like 30 million people | Feb 28 10:20 |
| schestowitz__ | two different measures of the same thing | Feb 28 10:20 |
| vmg3 | i had a classic bike and the threads on bolts drove me nuts like that | Feb 28 10:20 |
| schestowitz__ | "where you from matey? Oh, your pint isn't the same as ours? We're in NSW" | Feb 28 10:20 |
| vmg3 | british standard | Feb 28 10:20 |
| vmg3 | standard fine | Feb 28 10:20 |
| vmg3 | standard course | Feb 28 10:20 |
| vmg3 | on and on | Feb 28 10:20 |
| schestowitz__ | In South AU pint is 425 ml | Feb 28 10:21 |
| schestowitz__ | everywhere else 570 ml | Feb 28 10:21 |
| vmg3 | they dont have pints | Feb 28 10:21 |
| vmg3 | in nsw | Feb 28 10:21 |
| schestowitz__ | which isn't even the same as British. LOL. | Feb 28 10:21 |
| vmg3 | schooner | Feb 28 10:21 |
| schestowitz__ | you get an extra slurp | Feb 28 10:21 |
| vmg3 | middy | Feb 28 10:21 |
| vmg3 | maybe at a boutique | Feb 28 10:21 |
| schestowitz__ | "Canadian pinte de bièreImperial quart≈ 1136 ml" | Feb 28 10:22 |
| vmg3 | lots of small brewers now | Feb 28 10:22 |
| schestowitz__ | You can get drunk on one pint | Feb 28 10:22 |
| schestowitz__ | depending on body size | Feb 28 10:22 |
| vmg3 | northern territory stubbie | Feb 28 10:22 |
| vmg3 | search for that | Feb 28 10:22 |
| vmg3 | quarter gallon that canadian | Feb 28 10:23 |
| techrights-bot | Why India Needs To Fuss Over FOSS • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148228 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #india #freesw | Feb 28 10:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why India Needs To Fuss Over FOSS | Tux Machines | Feb 28 10:24 | |
| vmg3 | I read a few Indian blogs the do some good linux work | Feb 28 10:26 |
| vmg3 | everytime i start to complain about our NBN network I think of them and feel a little better | Feb 28 10:27 |
| vmg3 | they are copping it tough in the social control networks too | Feb 28 10:28 |
| vmg3 | you cover the globe well | Feb 28 10:30 |
| schestowitz__ | NBN? | Feb 28 10:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Telsta maybe? | Feb 28 10:30 |
| schestowitz__ | they bought pacnet | Feb 28 10:30 |
| vmg3 | National broadband network | Feb 28 10:30 |
| vmg3 | they are involved | Feb 28 10:30 |
| schestowitz__ | i heard bigpond is crap | Feb 28 10:31 |
| vmg3 | started on their phone network | Feb 28 10:31 |
| schestowitz__ | who even calls a company that? | Feb 28 10:31 |
| schestowitz__ | digitalocean sounds better | Feb 28 10:31 |
| schestowitz__ | I think they have IPO imminent | Feb 28 10:31 |
| vmg3 | it was ment to be like NZ's fibre network | Feb 28 10:31 |
| schestowitz__ | NZ is smaller | Feb 28 10:31 |
| schestowitz__ | and no major desert, so easier to connect economically | Feb 28 10:32 |
| vmg3 | but when the liberal party got in they decided copper was adequate | Feb 28 10:32 |
| vmg3 | 25mbs was all we needed | Feb 28 10:32 |
| vmg3 | malcolm turnbull | Feb 28 10:32 |
| schestowitz__ | fibre is needed for undersea cables | Feb 28 10:32 |
| schestowitz__ | for most residential connections copper can be ok | Feb 28 10:32 |
| vmg3 | now some places get 250 but NZ is getting 1000 | Feb 28 10:32 |
| schestowitz__ | unless you stop owning what you watch and instead stream Hd+DRM | Feb 28 10:32 |
| vmg3 | yeah | Feb 28 10:33 |
| vmg3 | i just went through a drama on thrusday | Feb 28 10:33 |
| vmg3 | with my isp | Feb 28 10:33 |
| schestowitz__ | join the club | Feb 28 10:33 |
| vmg3 | not having a mobile and wanting to churn was cumbersome to say the least | Feb 28 10:33 |
| schestowitz__ | they emailed me 2 days ago | Feb 28 10:33 |
| schestowitz__ | after they had issued compensation | Feb 28 10:34 |
| vmg3 | ended up getting upgraded from 50 to 100 | Feb 28 10:34 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:35] <techrights-bot> ● NEWS ● #Reason #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ So Long as You Carry a Cellphone, the Government Can Track You https://reason.com/2021/02/26/so-long-as-you-carry-a-cellphone-the-government-can-track-you/ Yes, DO NOT 'own' one. Don't be shamed/fooled into it. | Feb 28 10:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-So Long as You Carry a Cellphone, the Government Can Track You – Reason.com | Feb 28 10:34 | |
| vmg3 | sounds like a common story then | Feb 28 10:34 |
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| vmg3 | they just like to be difficult | Feb 28 10:36 |
| vmg3 | i'm not an activist normally | Feb 28 10:37 |
| vmg3 | just a little disgruntled | Feb 28 10:37 |
| schestowitz__ | what is "activist"? | Feb 28 10:37 |
| schestowitz__ | stubborn, opinionated person? | Feb 28 10:37 |
| vmg3 | protester | Feb 28 10:37 |
| schestowitz__ | activist is not an occupation | Feb 28 10:37 |
| schestowitz__ | it's a label corporations and their media put on people | Feb 28 10:38 |
| schestowitz__ | like "hobbyist" | Feb 28 10:38 |
| schestowitz__ | to belittle people | Feb 28 10:38 |
| schestowitz__ | just a "jobless" activist | Feb 28 10:38 |
| schestowitz__ | does not work for a big salary, don't listen to her/him | Feb 28 10:38 |
| vmg3 | oh for some they chain themselves to bridges etc | Feb 28 10:38 |
| vmg3 | true | Feb 28 10:38 |
| vmg3 | we have tree sitters | Feb 28 10:39 |
| schestowitz__ | some CEOs blow their brains out | Feb 28 10:39 |
| schestowitz__ | or threaten the Aussie government | Feb 28 10:39 |
| schestowitz__ | over the phone, not over a busy bridge | Feb 28 10:39 |
| schestowitz__ | "corporate raider" | Feb 28 10:39 |
| schestowitz__ | there's another one for you | Feb 28 10:39 |
| vmg3 | everything is relative | Feb 28 10:39 |
| schestowitz__ | or "shareholder activist" | Feb 28 10:39 |
| schestowitz__ | billionaires who destroy things and blackmail people | Feb 28 10:39 |
| schestowitz__ | it's all fine | Feb 28 10:39 |
| schestowitz__ | unlike gamestop | Feb 28 10:39 |
| schestowitz__ | some people can only chain themselves to a bridge | Feb 28 10:40 |
| schestowitz__ | some can blackmail a government with economic sanctions | Feb 28 10:40 |
| schestowitz__ | as FB did | Feb 28 10:40 |
| vmg3 | dirty bastards how dare they | Feb 28 10:40 |
| schestowitz__ | both are "activists" | Feb 28 10:40 |
| vmg3 | yep | Feb 28 10:40 |
| schestowitz__ | but some are bankrolled by Wall Street | Feb 28 10:40 |
| schestowitz__ | some stand against it | Feb 28 10:40 |
| vmg3 | i'm to old for that | Feb 28 10:40 |
| vmg3 | it's a young persons game | Feb 28 10:41 |
| vmg3 | look at myanmar and thailand | Feb 28 10:41 |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #TheEconomist #Censorship ☞ #Facebook and #Australia both claim victory as they end their spat https://www.economist.com/business/2021/02/24/facebook-and-australia-both-claim-victory-as-they-end-their-spat | Feb 28 10:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Relationship status: it’s complicated - Facebook and Australia both claim victory as they end their spat | Business | The Economist | Feb 28 10:41 | |
| vmg3 | they treat the kids different to the adults | Feb 28 10:41 |
| vmg3 | their youth is a weapon | Feb 28 10:42 |
| vmg3 | still cop a floggin | Feb 28 10:42 |
| schestowitz__ | kids have more future | Feb 28 10:42 |
| schestowitz__ | more years | Feb 28 10:42 |
| schestowitz__ | older people have savings sometimes | Feb 28 10:42 |
| schestowitz__ | and not much time left to use it | Feb 28 10:42 |
| schestowitz__ | so their stakes are different | Feb 28 10:42 |
| vmg3 | takes longer to recover | Feb 28 10:42 |
| schestowitz__ | revolutionaries thus tend to be younger | Feb 28 10:42 |
| vmg3 | yeah | Feb 28 10:42 |
| schestowitz__ | and here the older people vote "Boris" | Feb 28 10:42 |
| vmg3 | hahaha | Feb 28 10:43 |
| schestowitz__ | to "stick it" to the "brown people" | Feb 28 10:43 |
| vmg3 | true dat | Feb 28 10:43 |
| vmg3 | my shit stirring days are behind me | Feb 28 10:43 |
| vmg3 | mostly | Feb 28 10:43 |
| vmg3 | an online petition | Feb 28 10:44 |
| vmg3 | that me | Feb 28 10:44 |
| vmg3 | or donate to greenpeace | Feb 28 10:44 |
| vmg3 | use my vote | Feb 28 10:45 |
| vmg3 | not that that works | Feb 28 10:45 |
| schestowitz__ | it works a bit | Feb 28 10:45 |
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| schestowitz__ | but the people who bought the system told us it doesn't matter | Feb 28 10:45 |
| schestowitz__ | defeatism | Feb 28 10:45 |
| vmg3 | but we do have some grannies for refugees and the environment that are getting arrested | Feb 28 10:45 |
| schestowitz__ | because they know they're a minority except in capital | Feb 28 10:45 |
| vmg3 | i tip my hat to them | Feb 28 10:45 |
| vmg3 | money talks | Feb 28 10:46 |
| vmg3 | wisdom with the law is a great weapon. I'm basically unarmed | Feb 28 10:46 |
| schestowitz__ | law changes over time | Feb 28 10:47 |
| schestowitz__ | rules do too | Feb 28 10:47 |
| schestowitz__ | not the same as law | Feb 28 10:47 |
| schestowitz__ | that's why Twitter banned me | Feb 28 10:47 |
| vmg3 | for the guy with the money | Feb 28 10:47 |
| schestowitz__ | without even bothering to explain a reason | Feb 28 10:47 |
| schestowitz__ | they can do anything they want there | Feb 28 10:48 |
| schestowitz__ | so activism needs to be creative | Feb 28 10:48 |
| vmg3 | my foray with the law was against an insurance company and they flogged me stupid | Feb 28 10:48 |
| schestowitz__ | and technically advanced | Feb 28 10:48 |
| schestowitz__ | wikileaks did a good job | Feb 28 10:48 |
| vmg3 | yes | Feb 28 10:48 |
| schestowitz__ | but when you mess with CIA they get violent | Feb 28 10:48 |
| schestowitz__ | and weaponise the media | Feb 28 10:48 |
| vmg3 | and play dirty | Feb 28 10:48 |
| schestowitz__ | like Guardian egging on Ecuador to banish Assange | Feb 28 10:48 |
| vmg3 | and spy on him | Feb 28 10:49 |
| schestowitz__ | an Ecuadorian citizen at the time | Feb 28 10:49 |
| vmg3 | and all his visitors | Feb 28 10:49 |
| schestowitz__ | the 'press' blackmailing politicians | Feb 28 10:49 |
| vmg3 | yeah there is a lesson there somewhere | Feb 28 10:49 |
| vmg3 | lol | Feb 28 10:49 |
| vmg3 | we're fucke | Feb 28 10:49 |
| vmg3 | d | Feb 28 10:49 |
| schestowitz__ | now they equate free speech with violence | Feb 28 10:50 |
| schestowitz__ | privacy with conspiracy to mass-murder | Feb 28 10:50 |
| schestowitz__ | basically any tool we can use to counter power | Feb 28 10:50 |
| vmg3 | nothing is out of bounds | Feb 28 10:50 |
| schestowitz__ | that's sold to the public as collective threat | Feb 28 10:50 |
| schestowitz__ | and they use a sanitary angle now with COVID | Feb 28 10:50 |
| schestowitz__ | protesters are apparently "superspreaders" | Feb 28 10:51 |
| vmg3 | yeah | Feb 28 10:51 |
| schestowitz__ | so we can be created on the Net | Feb 28 10:51 |
| vmg3 | labels | Feb 28 10:51 |
| schestowitz__ | creative | Feb 28 10:51 |
| schestowitz__ | whistleblowers still exist | Feb 28 10:51 |
| schestowitz__ | you just don't present them as such as they're kept safer | Feb 28 10:51 |
| vmg3 | they end up in secret courts now | Feb 28 10:51 |
| vmg3 | even greta is a thorn | Feb 28 10:52 |
| vmg3 | India shuts the net down at the drop of a mischief kit | Feb 28 10:53 |
| schestowitz__ | there is another way to deal with her | Feb 28 10:53 |
| schestowitz__ | and the likes of her | Feb 28 10:53 |
| schestowitz__ | they weaponise the right | Feb 28 10:53 |
| schestowitz__ | and they get painted as "pawns" | Feb 28 10:53 |
| vmg3 | yeah | Feb 28 10:53 |
| schestowitz__ | Assange too | Feb 28 10:54 |
| vmg3 | grown men attacking children is fine now | Feb 28 10:54 |
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| schestowitz__ | being called "CIA agent" or "Russian agent" or "mossad" | Feb 28 10:54 |
| schestowitz__ | even totally contradictory labels | Feb 28 10:54 |
| schestowitz__ | they did "China" on Snowden | Feb 28 10:54 |
| schestowitz__ | but that didn't hold up | Feb 28 10:54 |
| vmg3 | presidents even | Feb 28 10:54 |
| schestowitz__ | The media was enamored with Snowden for some reason | Feb 28 10:54 |
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| vmg3 | drank the koolaid | Feb 28 10:55 |
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| vmg3 | Putin has the dirt | Feb 28 10:56 |
| schestowitz__ | on many domestically | Feb 28 10:56 |
| schestowitz__ | or he can make stuff up | Feb 28 10:56 |
| schestowitz__ | a lot of the media is controlled indirectly by his regime | Feb 28 10:56 |
| vmg3 | oligarchs help | Feb 28 10:56 |
| schestowitz__ | the rest has been painted as "foreign agent" | Feb 28 10:57 |
| schestowitz__ | or driven out | Feb 28 10:57 |
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| schestowitz__ | Putin still has relatively high approval rates compared to Western regimes, but media control probably contributes to this | Feb 28 10:57 |
| schestowitz__ | hi, vZS1_2 | Feb 28 10:57 |
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| vmg3 | i still think its a smaller layer of corruption | Feb 28 10:58 |
| vmg3 | than capitalism | Feb 28 10:58 |
| vmg3 | we have to many middlemen | Feb 28 10:58 |
| vmg3 | all want a piece of pie | Feb 28 10:58 |
| vZS1_2 | o/ | Feb 28 10:59 |
| schestowitz__ | vmg3: so let's create the conditions within which they suffer and cannot thrive | Feb 28 10:59 |
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| schestowitz__ | transparency and media are means of approaching that | Feb 28 10:59 |
| vZS1_2 | schestowitz__: I bought a dumbphone; took the SIM card out of my spyphone and put it in my dumbphone. Guess what? 3 no longer support dumbphones. | Feb 28 10:59 |
| schestowitz__ | they never like bad PR | Feb 28 10:59 |
| vmg3 | fuckThem app | Feb 28 10:59 |
| schestowitz__ | IBM really loathes what techrights does to highlight IBM intolerance | Feb 28 10:59 |
| schestowitz__ | never mind the more technical criticisms | Feb 28 11:00 |
| schestowitz__ | like vendor lockin, monopoly etc. | Feb 28 11:00 |
| vmg3 | I just shout vZS1_2 | Feb 28 11:00 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1_2: the dumbphones are also spyphones | Feb 28 11:00 |
| vmg3 | even intel lie and cheat now | Feb 28 11:00 |
| schestowitz__ | and I did some research into this a decade back | Feb 28 11:00 |
| schestowitz__ | lots of it | Feb 28 11:01 |
| vmg3 | blatantly | Feb 28 11:01 |
| schestowitz__ | they can figure out who you are | Feb 28 11:01 |
| vZS1_2 | schestowitz__: It's a dumberspyphone, at least. | Feb 28 11:01 |
| schestowitz__ | many ways, even if you pay cash | Feb 28 11:01 |
| vZS1_2 | I got this to get rid of distractions, primarily. Not for privacy. I am aware of those issues. | Feb 28 11:01 |
| vmg3 | I notice a few phones from china now have walkie talkies in them | Feb 28 11:01 |
| schestowitz__ | what's the "use case"? | Feb 28 11:01 |
| schestowitz__ | colleague phones? | Feb 28 11:02 |
| schestowitz__ | I was just chatting with the wife about it an hour ago | Feb 28 11:02 |
| schestowitz__ | she had a spyphone a decade ago and all it caused was nuisance | Feb 28 11:02 |
| vZS1_2 | The use case is just a phone that doesn't distract me with notifications all the time. | Feb 28 11:02 |
| schestowitz__ | like calls from employer while in the gym | Feb 28 11:02 |
| schestowitz__ | and then coming back home early | Feb 28 11:02 |
| vmg3 | we only need data now | Feb 28 11:02 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1_2: but that's spun in negation form? | Feb 28 11:02 |
| schestowitz__ | it does not specify use | Feb 28 11:02 |
| schestowitz__ | but something NOT used | Feb 28 11:03 |
| vZS1_2 | Good point | Feb 28 11:03 |
| vZS1_2 | Texts and calls. | Feb 28 11:03 |
| vZS1_2 | That's it | Feb 28 11:03 |
| schestowitz__ | yesterday I told her, | Feb 28 11:03 |
| vmg3 | get a sim for my pi | Feb 28 11:03 |
| schestowitz__ | remember before we had all this crap | Feb 28 11:03 |
| schestowitz__ | we did fine | Feb 28 11:03 |
| schestowitz__ | applies to lots of things btw | Feb 28 11:03 |
| vmg3 | life was simpler | Feb 28 11:03 |
| schestowitz__ | things that, if you took away, would not really make life worse | Feb 28 11:03 |
| vmg3 | that for sure | Feb 28 11:03 |
| schestowitz__ | (only perceived need) | Feb 28 11:03 |
| vmg3 | the same with cash v card too | Feb 28 11:04 |
| vmg3 | i was insulted the other day for paying cash for guitar strings | Feb 28 11:04 |
| vmg3 | like i was a cave man | Feb 28 11:04 |
| vZS1_2 | If you want more privacy just use a phone on the street (while they still last). | Feb 28 11:04 |
| vmg3 | even the pay phones are against us | Feb 28 11:05 |
| vmg3 | they only allow 15 minutes | Feb 28 11:05 |
| schestowitz__ | vmg3: you should ask them, why do companies and PM need to know if I buy this item? Has anyone assembled a bomb with strings? | Feb 28 11:05 |
| vmg3 | i was still on hold calling isp | Feb 28 11:05 |
| vZS1_2 | My calls usually only last a minute. | Feb 28 11:05 |
| vmg3 | fucking crazy | Feb 28 11:05 |
| vZS1_2 | schestowitz__: you can use the strings as garotte wire. | Feb 28 11:06 |
| vmg3 | you havent used my isp | Feb 28 11:06 |
| vmg3 | haha | Feb 28 11:06 |
| vZS1_2 | s/garotte/garrote/ | Feb 28 11:06 |
| schestowitz__ | there you go, vZS1_2 | Feb 28 11:06 |
| vmg3 | yeah maybe wanted to put me on suicide watch | Feb 28 11:06 |
| schestowitz__ | people who buy musical instruments are future terrorists | Feb 28 11:06 |
| vmg3 | i wont be going back to that shop | Feb 28 11:07 |
| schestowitz__ | same here | Feb 28 11:07 |
| schestowitz__ | no cash, no business | Feb 28 11:07 |
| schestowitz__ | they want to demand card now for a coffee | Feb 28 11:07 |
| schestowitz__ | yes coffee | Feb 28 11:07 |
| schestowitz__ | "don't want your money" | Feb 28 11:07 |
| schestowitz__ | "get the app" | Feb 28 11:07 |
| vZS1_2 | To which I would reply: I don't have a phone with apps | Feb 28 11:07 |
| vmg3 | now the government has the figures on the stimulus payments and says to much money was saved | Feb 28 11:07 |
| schestowitz__ | me: lecturing them, "byeeee" | Feb 28 11:07 |
| vZS1_2 | Most small businesses prefer cash | Feb 28 11:08 |
| vmg3 | thats what i thought | Feb 28 11:08 |
| vZS1_2 | It's the large chains that are allergic to cash | Feb 28 11:08 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1_2: : those crooks! | Feb 28 11:08 |
| schestowitz__ | tax evaders! | Feb 28 11:08 |
| vZS1_2 | Yep | Feb 28 11:08 |
| vZS1_2 | Standard propaganda | Feb 28 11:08 |
| vmg3 | but they all buy into it | Feb 28 11:08 |
| schestowitz__ | not all | Feb 28 11:08 |
| vZS1_2 | I still do most of my business in cash only | Feb 28 11:08 |
| schestowitz__ | the people who still resist it widen the options | Feb 28 11:08 |
| vmg3 | I think we're a minority | Feb 28 11:09 |
| schestowitz__ | the media now paints people who pay with cash like unvaccinated monsters | Feb 28 11:09 |
| schestowitz__ | "superspreaders" | Feb 28 11:09 |
| vZS1_2 | Either way, I just wanted to flag that a lot of UK mobile network providers want to phase out 2G | Feb 28 11:09 |
| vmg3 | money launderers | Feb 28 11:09 |
| vZS1_2 | Because it's harder to spy on people with dumbphones | Feb 28 11:09 |
| schestowitz__ | remote takeovers | Feb 28 11:10 |
| vZS1_2 | They can't force you to get "apps" either | Feb 28 11:10 |
| vmg3 | i liked it when i could listen to phone calls on a tv dongle | Feb 28 11:10 |
| schestowitz__ | might be harder | Feb 28 11:10 |
| schestowitz__ | or | Feb 28 11:10 |
| schestowitz__ | give access to fewer sensors | Feb 28 11:10 |
| vZS1_2 | No "apps" | Feb 28 11:10 |
| schestowitz__ | or don't give good cover for the one taking over | Feb 28 11:10 |
| vZS1_2 | I hate "apps" | Feb 28 11:10 |
| schestowitz__ | like the old phonelines when you hear crackling when it's tampered with or eavesdropped | Feb 28 11:10 |
| vmg3 | they are dirty | Feb 28 11:10 |
| schestowitz__ | vmg3: or a walkie talkie | Feb 28 11:11 |
| schestowitz__ | back when some portable landlines didn't do good encryption | Feb 28 11:11 |
| schestowitz__ | and used simple radio to the base station | Feb 28 11:11 |
| vmg3 | yeah i miss my old rigs | Feb 28 11:11 |
| schestowitz__ | so we used to go around with the walkie talkie as kids, sometimes picking up calls and giggling ourselves | Feb 28 11:11 |
| vmg3 | pirate radio | Feb 28 11:12 |
| vZS1_2 | At least I can temporarily use the dumbphone for a "no apps" excuse. | Feb 28 11:12 |
| schestowitz__ | the pirates became "big tech" | Feb 28 11:12 |
| vZS1_2 | I charged it and it's small so it fits into a jacket pocket easily. | Feb 28 11:12 |
| schestowitz__ | they have more lobbyists than kids | Feb 28 11:12 |
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| vmg3 | now the spectrum is worth billions | Feb 28 11:12 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1_2: battery life on standby? | Feb 28 11:12 |
| schestowitz__ | Used to be weeks | Feb 28 11:12 |
| vZS1_2 | I think it's 20 days | Feb 28 11:13 |
| schestowitz__ | before those things vomited out data every 10 secs | Feb 28 11:13 |
| vmg3 | i miss my old nokia 95 | Feb 28 11:13 |
| vZS1_2 | Yeah, I think 20 days on standby | Feb 28 11:13 |
| schestowitz__ | you can take it ona long trip | Feb 28 11:13 |
| schestowitz__ | without taking all sorts of "kits" | Feb 28 11:13 |
| schestowitz__ | or "adapters" if it's crapple | Feb 28 11:14 |
| vmg3 | much can change in 10 years | Feb 28 11:14 |
| schestowitz__ | not for the better | Feb 28 11:14 |
| schestowitz__ | sometimes for the better | Feb 28 11:14 |
| schestowitz__ | to up the morale think of dark ages | Feb 28 11:14 |
| schestowitz__ | slavery | Feb 28 11:14 |
| schestowitz__ | women not voting, treated like "property" | Feb 28 11:14 |
| vmg3 | lol | Feb 28 11:14 |
| schestowitz__ | so you generally know things CAN improve, sometimes | Feb 28 11:14 |
| schestowitz__ | life expectancy also | Feb 28 11:14 |
| vZS1_2 | I will be doing a document drop for you in the next week or two, schestowitz__. Via email. | Feb 28 11:14 |
| vZS1_2 | Just a heads up | Feb 28 11:15 |
| schestowitz__ | in saudi barbaria women are still subhuman | Feb 28 11:15 |
| schestowitz__ | so the changes aren't universal | Feb 28 11:15 |
| schestowitz__ | they just try to sort of 'fit' in with the world | Feb 28 11:15 |
| vmg3 | i remember with shareware the inevitable upgrade would come and you would have to downgrade to get all the features back | Feb 28 11:15 |
| schestowitz__ | In the news today: | Feb 28 11:16 |
| schestowitz__ | [10:47] <techrights-bot> ● NEWS ● #NPR #PressFreedom ☞ U.S. Intelligence: Saudi Terrorist Approved Operation To Kill Jamal Khashoggi https://text.npr.org/971215788 | Feb 28 11:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | U.S. Intelligence: Saudi Crown Prince Approved Operation To Kill Jamal Khashoggi | Feb 28 11:16 | |
| schestowitz__ | [10:46] <techrights-bot> ● NEWS ● #TheHill #PressFreedom ☞ #Biden holds off punishing Saudi Terrorist MBS, despite US intel https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/540793-biden-holds-off-punishing-saudi-crown-prince-despite-intel-finding | Feb 28 11:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Biden holds off punishing Saudi crown prince, despite US intel | TheHill | Feb 28 11:16 | |
| vmg3 | Turkey told us the day it happened | Feb 28 11:16 |
| schestowitz__ | they belatedly pay the price for this | Feb 28 11:16 |
| vZS1_2 | Sleepy Joe is the real terrorist | Feb 28 11:16 |
| schestowitz__ | wasn't worth it (killing just one person) | Feb 28 11:16 |
| schestowitz__ | Sleepy doesn't lose sleep over it | Feb 28 11:16 |
| schestowitz__ | he's getting on with the program | Feb 28 11:16 |
| vmg3 | alll puppets | Feb 28 11:16 |
| vZS1_2 | Terrorising domestic journalists with espionage act | Feb 28 11:17 |
| schestowitz__ | oil, war, and yachts | Feb 28 11:17 |
| vmg3 | kiddies | Feb 28 11:17 |
| schestowitz__ | Trump was even worse | Feb 28 11:17 |
| schestowitz__ | he bragged that he covered up for the Green Terrorist | Feb 28 11:17 |
| vmg3 | he was just a bad liar | Feb 28 11:17 |
| schestowitz__ | and said he owned him | Feb 28 11:17 |
| schestowitz__ | "I saved your arse" | Feb 28 11:17 |
| schestowitz__ | that's what he reportedly told the terrorist | Feb 28 11:17 |
| vZS1_2 | Sleepy Joe is just as bad. It's the propaganda machine that makes him "seem" better | Feb 28 11:17 |
| vmg3 | yeah agreed | Feb 28 11:18 |
| vZS1_2 | It's the ratchet effect. | Feb 28 11:18 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1_2: good bombs | Feb 28 11:18 |
| schestowitz__ | in Syria | Feb 28 11:18 |
| vZS1_2 | Trump pushes to the right | Feb 28 11:18 |
| schestowitz__ | Liberal bombs | Feb 28 11:18 |
| vZS1_2 | Sleepy Joe makes sure it doesn't move back | Feb 28 11:18 |
| vmg3 | they are both rw | Feb 28 11:18 |
| schestowitz__ | with rainbow coloured facets | Feb 28 11:18 |
| schestowitz__ | until they detonate | Feb 28 11:18 |
| vmg3 | should have been bernie | Feb 28 11:18 |
| schestowitz__ | then the rainbows are mostly red-stained | Feb 28 11:18 |
| karolyi[m] | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrQJc4HAUeE | Feb 28 11:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Interview with whistle-blower Emma Reilly on China's infiltration of the UN - YouTube | Feb 28 11:19 | |
| vZS1_2 | The USA propaganda and war machine will never let a candiate like Sanders take control of the executive branch. | Feb 28 11:19 |
| schestowitz__ | yesterday: https://fair.org/home/trump-briefings-always-news-biden-briefings-not-news/ | Feb 28 11:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fair.org | Trump Briefings? Always News. Biden Briefings? Not News. — FAIR | Feb 28 11:19 | |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1_2: coz marxist | Feb 28 11:19 |
| schestowitz__ | either bezos becomes trillionaire | Feb 28 11:20 |
| vZS1_2 | Worse than a marxist | Feb 28 11:20 |
| schestowitz__ | of you are a bolshevik | Feb 28 11:20 |
| vZS1_2 | _Reformer_ | Feb 28 11:20 |
| vmg3 | cant have fair representation nope | Feb 28 11:20 |
| vZS1_2 | Rerformers are worse than communists | Feb 28 11:20 |
| schestowitz__ | either you support Sleepy | Feb 28 11:20 |
| schestowitz__ | or you support sedition | Feb 28 11:20 |
| vmg3 | lol | Feb 28 11:20 |
| schestowitz__ | Choose Cheeto of Sleepy | Feb 28 11:20 |
| schestowitz__ | nothing else matters | Feb 28 11:20 |
| schestowitz__ | like in 2016 when we convinced many to vote Green | Feb 28 11:21 |
| schestowitz__ | and many did indeed | Feb 28 11:21 |
| schestowitz__ | 4-fold growth over the previous election cycle | Feb 28 11:21 |
| vZS1_2 | Communists won't get anything done. Bernie is a practical reformer. He's the plutocrat's worst nightmare. | Feb 28 11:21 |
| schestowitz__ | and then the "Greens" elected Trump, they tell us.. | Feb 28 11:21 |
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| schestowitz__ | vZS1_2: don't worry, they can "take care" of "old Bernie" | Feb 28 11:22 |
| schestowitz__ | yesterday: | Feb 28 11:22 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.democracynow.org/2021/2/26/malcolm_x_assassination_investigation_ilyasah_shabazz | Feb 28 11:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | “We Want the Truth Uncovered”: Malcolm X’s Daughter Ilyasah Shabazz Backs New Probe into Assassination | Democracy Now! | Feb 28 11:22 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.democracynow.org/2021/2/26/raymond_wood_reggie_wood_malcolm_x | Feb 28 11:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | The Assassination of Malcolm X: Ex-Undercover Officer Admits Role in FBI & Police Conspiracy | Democracy Now! | Feb 28 11:22 | |
| schestowitz__ | If they did this to Malcolm, why not MLK too? | Feb 28 11:22 |
| vmg3 | no links im drunk | Feb 28 11:22 |
| schestowitz__ | It's not like they're trying to kill an Australia in the UK... who has no US connections | Feb 28 11:22 |
| vZS1_2 | "High tech terrorist" | Feb 28 11:23 |
| schestowitz__ | *Australian | Feb 28 11:23 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1_2: said Moscow Mitch | Feb 28 11:23 |
| vZS1_2 | And Sleepy Joe agrees with Moscow Mitch | Feb 28 11:23 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1_2: he set up a web site | Feb 28 11:23 |
| schestowitz__ | that's obviously terrorism | Feb 28 11:23 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1_2: he said it's closer to terrorism than Pentagon Papers | Feb 28 11:24 |
| schestowitz__ | Ellsberg | Feb 28 11:24 |
| vmg3 | cause he knows PHP | Feb 28 11:24 |
| vZS1_2 | PHP is terrorism. Javascript or you're a terrorist | Feb 28 11:24 |
| vmg3 | lol | Feb 28 11:24 |
| vmg3 | I read something the other day on morse code injection obfuscated | Feb 28 11:25 |
| vmg3 | everything thats old is new againg | Feb 28 11:26 |
| schestowitz__ | you can do encryption in morse | Feb 28 11:26 |
| schestowitz__ | similar to german ENIGMA | Feb 28 11:26 |
| vmg3 | s/again/againg | Feb 28 11:26 |
| vmg3 | yeah | Feb 28 11:26 |
| vZS1_2 | Encryption is a special case of encoding. And you can encode any data stream. | Feb 28 11:26 |
| schestowitz__ | now we have more complexity | Feb 28 11:26 |
| schestowitz__ | so it's harder to check for back doors | Feb 28 11:26 |
| schestowitz__ | the back doors can even be at the GUI front end | Feb 28 11:26 |
| schestowitz__ | or the kernel | Feb 28 11:26 |
| schestowitz__ | or the hardware something | Feb 28 11:26 |
| schestowitz__ | like fake encropy claims | Feb 28 11:27 |
| schestowitz__ | and RNG | Feb 28 11:27 |
| vmg3 | i have trouble with my back door if i ride my bike to far | Feb 28 11:27 |
| schestowitz__ | at motherboard level | Feb 28 11:27 |
| schestowitz__ | with a billion transistors LOL | Feb 28 11:27 |
| schestowitz__ | and an ME | Feb 28 11:27 |
| vZS1_2 | A letter it technically also a data stream, kind of. | Feb 28 11:27 |
| vmg3 | M$ ME? | Feb 28 11:27 |
| schestowitz__ | because you want another OS (Minix) you cannot change... on your motherwboard | Feb 28 11:27 |
| vZS1_2 | s/it/is/ | Feb 28 11:27 |
| vmg3 | i'm confused | Feb 28 11:27 |
| schestowitz__ | mjg59 has got it all figured out | Feb 28 11:28 |
| schestowitz__ | security is letting the hardware decide | Feb 28 11:28 |
| vmg3 | more beer | Feb 28 11:28 |
| schestowitz__ | with Microsoft-signed keys | Feb 28 11:28 |
| schestowitz__ | in some proprietary remote framework | Feb 28 11:28 |
| schestowitz__ | that's "security" | Feb 28 11:28 |
| schestowitz__ | "trust Microsoft and Intel" | Feb 28 11:28 |
| schestowitz__ | what frauds | Feb 28 11:28 |
| schestowitz__ | mjg59 studies all those transistors | Feb 28 11:28 |
| schestowitz__ | so it's safe | Feb 28 11:28 |
| schestowitz__ | he printed out the schema | Feb 28 11:29 |
| vmg3 | we rest on our laurels and get overtaken | Feb 28 11:29 |
| schestowitz__ | went like, "yup, yup... looks legit" | Feb 28 11:29 |
| vZS1_2 | Did you get your Azure clown certification for that? | Feb 28 11:29 |
| schestowitz__ | a must0have | Feb 28 11:29 |
| vZS1_2 | You need to go to clown college! | Feb 28 11:29 |
| schestowitz__ | says microsoft-funded media | Feb 28 11:29 |
| schestowitz__ | azure has layoffs | Feb 28 11:29 |
| schestowitz__ | but the media doesn't talk about it | Feb 28 11:29 |
| schestowitz__ | that theatens ad renewals | Feb 28 11:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Microsoft blasted away BILLIONS just on azure spam | Feb 28 11:30 |
| schestowitz__ | for 5+ years | Feb 28 11:30 |
| schestowitz__ | it's everywhere in sites for geeks | Feb 28 11:30 |
| vZS1_2 | Btw, my IPFS node will be going offline for a few days. | Feb 28 11:30 |
| vZS1_2 | I'm doing a fresh OpenBSD install on it | Feb 28 11:30 |
| schestowitz__ | even in pages that have nothing to do with Azure | Feb 28 11:30 |
| vmg3 | flowchart or it never happened \ | Feb 28 11:30 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1_2: maybe I will keep ipfs turned on in that interim | Feb 28 11:31 |
| schestowitz__ | I did some kernel-level traffic-shaming to reduce the strain it causes | Feb 28 11:31 |
| vZS1_2 | I no longer want to have GNU/IBM on my machines | Feb 28 11:32 |
| vmg3 | poisoned | Feb 28 11:33 |
| vmg3 | linus needs to kick some arse | Feb 28 11:34 |
| schestowitz__ | vmg3: but IBM fights racism | Feb 28 11:34 |
| schestowitz__ | LF has many new pages about it | Feb 28 11:34 |
| vmg3 | lol | Feb 28 11:34 |
| schestowitz__ | stop being racist, vZS1_2 | Feb 28 11:34 |
| vmg3 | he'd make em cry | Feb 28 11:35 |
| vZS1_2 | I can take my GNU software wherever I want. I have no more desire to work with IBM's kernel. I've had it with their bullshit. | Feb 28 11:35 |
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| vmg3 | always bsd i guess | Feb 28 11:36 |
| vmg3 | havent been there for a while | Feb 28 11:37 |
| techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148229 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 11:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Feb 28 11:37 | |
| vZS1_2 | I've tried others as well. The world is more than POSIX. | Feb 28 11:37 |
| vZS1_2 | Especially on embedded devices. You don't need a POSIX for everything. | Feb 28 11:38 |
| schestowitz__ | the mars mission uses vxworks | Feb 28 11:38 |
| schestowitz__ | it works for them | Feb 28 11:38 |
| schestowitz__ | but... | Feb 28 11:38 |
| schestowitz__ | proprietary | Feb 28 11:38 |
| schestowitz__ | many years if testing | Feb 28 11:38 |
| vmg3 | never going back | Feb 28 11:38 |
| schestowitz__ | ans I assume small attack surface | Feb 28 11:38 |
| vmg3 | never | Feb 28 11:39 |
| vZS1_2 | POSIX is slowly getting more bloat | Feb 28 11:39 |
| schestowitz__ | they don't support the latest azure 'features' | Feb 28 11:39 |
| schestowitz__ | Some hours ago http://lxer.com/ added Microsoft Tim: | Feb 28 11:39 |
| schestowitz__ | it's down now | Feb 28 11:39 |
| vZS1_2 | I have microcontrollers that I control over GPIO with assembly. I can handle my own computing. | Feb 28 11:39 |
| schestowitz__ | but it's about Linux adding Hyper-V 'features' | Feb 28 11:40 |
| schestowitz__ | proprietary | Feb 28 11:40 |
| vmg3 | enterprise can eat the cheese | Feb 28 11:40 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't want that in my kernel | Feb 28 11:40 |
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| vZS1_2 | I don't need a POSIX to turn on a gangway. | Feb 28 11:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Recv failure: Connection reset by peer ( status 0 @ http://lxer.com/ ) | Feb 28 11:40 | |
| schestowitz__ | This guy: https://www.itwriting.com/blog/1206-hands-on-with-hyper-v-its-brilliant.html | Feb 28 11:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itwriting.com | Hands on with Hyper-V: it’s brilliant | Tim Anderson's IT Writing | Feb 28 11:41 | |
| vZS1_2 | CS101:2021: POSIX to turn on an LED. | Feb 28 11:41 |
| schestowitz__ | El Reg now pays this Microsoft booster's salary | Feb 28 11:41 |
| vmg3 | im down to 3 words a min with %12 accuracy | Feb 28 11:41 |
| schestowitz__ | New: celebrate, peasants https://www.theregister.com/2020/09/15/microsoft_submits_linux_kernel_patches/ | Feb 28 11:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Microsoft submits Linux kernel patches for a 'complete virtualization stack' with Linux and Hyper-V • The Register | Feb 28 11:41 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.theregister.com/Author/Tim-Anderson | Feb 28 11:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Tim Anderson • The Register | Feb 28 11:41 | |
| vZS1_2 | Azure: come get your clown certifications from our clown college | Feb 28 11:41 |
| vZS1_2 | GCP and Amazon also have clown colleges | Feb 28 11:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Lxer linked to this: https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/17/linux_as_root_partition_on_hyper_v/ | Feb 28 11:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Linux as root partition on Hyper-V: Microsoft submits patches for kernel 5.12 • The Register | Feb 28 11:42 | |
| schestowitz__ | notice how many of his articles are STILL Microsoft | Feb 28 11:42 |
| vZS1_2 | s/Amazon/AWS/ | Feb 28 11:42 |
| vmg3 | There's a patch for that | Feb 28 11:42 |
| vZS1_2 | TheMicrosoftRegister? Why are you surprised? | Feb 28 11:42 |
| schestowitz__ | AWS is NOT AMAZON! | Feb 28 11:42 |
| schestowitz__ | GitHUB is NOT MICROSOFT | Feb 28 11:42 |
| schestowitz__ | YoUTUBE is NOT Google | Feb 28 11:42 |
| schestowitz__ | Red Hat is its own company | Feb 28 11:42 |
| schestowitz__ | IBM was scammed | Feb 28 11:42 |
| schestowitz__ | it was led to think it bought Red Hat | Feb 28 11:43 |
| schestowitz__ | Fedora is NOT IBM | Feb 28 11:43 |
| vmg3 | slow down | Feb 28 11:43 |
| vZS1_2 | CentOS did not get killed by IBM | Feb 28 11:43 |
| schestowitz__ | :-D | Feb 28 11:43 |
| vZS1_2 | It was Red Hat's decision! | Feb 28 11:43 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1_2: it was reborn | Feb 28 11:43 |
| schestowitz__ | "streams of blood everywhere" | Feb 28 11:43 |
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| vmg3 | pandemic | Feb 28 11:43 |
| schestowitz__ | IBM doesn't decided about Red Hat | Feb 28 11:43 |
| schestowitz__ | they gave Red Hat its own CEO, Paul | Feb 28 11:43 |
| schestowitz__ | Red Hat's prior CEO is not IBM President | Feb 28 11:44 |
| schestowitz__ | but he has no power | Feb 28 11:44 |
| schestowitz__ | he's like Queen of England really | Feb 28 11:44 |
| vZS1_2 | So you're telling me | Feb 28 11:44 |
| vZS1_2 | Paul's a Queen? | Feb 28 11:44 |
| vmg3 | lol | Feb 28 11:44 |
| schestowitz__ | No, James is a Queen | Feb 28 11:44 |
| schestowitz__ | Queen of IBM | Feb 28 11:44 |
| schestowitz__ | The Prime Minister is Krishna | Feb 28 11:44 |
| schestowitz__ | and he loves Linux | Feb 28 11:44 |
| schestowitz__ | they told us | Feb 28 11:44 |
| schestowitz__ | well, when they bought Red Hat | Feb 28 11:44 |
| schestowitz__ | I researched hard | Feb 28 11:45 |
| vZS1_2 | The only Krishna I know is a Hindu god | Feb 28 11:45 |
| schestowitz__ | could not find evidence he uses Linux on his laptop | Feb 28 11:45 |
| schestowitz__ | James Whitehurst uses a Mac | Feb 28 11:45 |
| schestowitz__ | whitehu | Feb 28 11:45 |
| vmg3 | yeah backslash is a switch | Feb 28 11:45 |
| schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2020/08/02/red-hat-layoffs/ | Feb 28 11:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM is Already Gutting Red Hat and Firing Employees Without Warning, Jim Whitehurst Isn’t Even Using GNU/Linux | Techrights | Feb 28 11:45 | |
| techrights-bot | Now that IBM is removing 'offensive' words it needs to ask its President (James/Jim) to change his surname | Feb 28 11:46 |
| vZS1_2 | He needs a name fit for the Queen he is | Feb 28 11:46 |
| schestowitz__ | Jim Greyhurst | Feb 28 11:47 |
| schestowitz__ | or Grayhurst | Feb 28 11:47 |
| schestowitz__ | he's American | Feb 28 11:47 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe they will tell me there are also "gray people" | Feb 28 11:47 |
| vmg3 | cause aliens | Feb 28 11:47 |
| schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2020/06/20/language-sanitation-wave/ | Feb 28 11:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Humour/Meme] Are Traffic Lights Offensive to So-called ‘Redskins’? | Techrights | Feb 28 11:48 | |
| schestowitz__ | http://lxer.com/ still down | Feb 28 11:49 |
| schestowitz__ | lots of downtimes so far this year | Feb 28 11:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Connection timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ http://lxer.com/ ) | Feb 28 11:49 | |
| schestowitz__ | and LinuxToday is also struggling on many fronts | Feb 28 11:49 |
| schestowitz__ | Lxer posting lots of Microsoft Tim links is worrying | Feb 28 11:49 |
| schestowitz__ | and it can alienate readers, IMHO | Feb 28 11:49 |
| vmg3 | i smell food | Feb 28 11:53 |
| vZS1_2 | Don't worry. There are things brewing that's going to knock their legs out from under them. | Feb 28 11:54 |
| vZS1_2 | Their stupidity is their worst enemy, anyway | Feb 28 11:55 |
| vZS1_2 | Look at the leaks you've got already. People aren't going to put up with their BS forever | Feb 28 11:56 |
| vmg3 | look at raspberry pi they have no shame | Feb 28 11:56 |
| vZS1_2 | s/pi/spy/ | Feb 28 11:57 |
| vmg3 | lol | Feb 28 11:57 |
| techrights-bot | "Tibetan language teaching is outlawed and urbanisation campaigns relocate nomads from their ancestral pastures." https://mastodon.social/@glynmoody/105804486108842003 | Feb 28 11:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | Glyn Moody: "Tibet: The ‘Final Solution’? - https://chinachann…" - Mastodon | Feb 28 11:57 | |
| vZS1_2 | There are more Uighurs in Chinese concentration camps than there were Jews in concentration camps during the Holocaust | Feb 28 11:57 |
| vZS1_2 | Look it up | Feb 28 11:57 |
| techrights-bot | From same publication that takes money from the world's biggest polluter, #billgates https://mastodon.social/@glynmoody/105797740839981007 | Feb 28 11:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | Glyn Moody: "If the UK government won't stop industrial fishin…" - Mastodon | Feb 28 11:58 | |
| techrights-bot | "Wow, I can’t believe it’s been 24 whole days since my last post! It’s been quite a productive time, and one full of surprises." https://michel-slm.name/posts/2021-02-26-software-wetware/ | Feb 28 11:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michel-slm.name | Software and Wetware: Taking a short hiatus :: Pensées de Michel — Personal thoughts and musings | Feb 28 11:58 | |
| vmg3 | but the measure stick must be broken https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate | Feb 28 11:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | List of countries by incarceration rate - Wikipedia | Feb 28 11:59 | |
| techrights-bot | #perl at #fosdem https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/perl_the_hidden_gem/ | Feb 28 11:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fosdem.org | FOSDEM 2021 - Perl, the hidden automation gem | Feb 28 11:59 | |
| vZS1_2 | I am mad at the Perl people. And the Raku people. They still use ShitHub | Feb 28 11:59 |
| vZS1_2 | Perl is not as bad as Raku though. | Feb 28 12:00 |
| vmg3 | I'm mad at everyone | Feb 28 12:00 |
| schestowitz__ | They might find nobody uses them | Feb 28 12:00 |
| schestowitz__ | you use microsoft, users walk away | Feb 28 12:00 |
| vZS1_2 | At least Perl runs some of their own infra | Feb 28 12:00 |
| vZS1_2 | Raku is 100% Microsoft ShitHub | Feb 28 12:00 |
| vZS1_2 | Which is why I don't use Raku anymore | Feb 28 12:01 |
| vZS1_2 | And I used to campaign heavily for Raku adoption | Feb 28 12:01 |
| vZS1_2 | But their lack of action on Raku saddened me | Feb 28 12:01 |
| vZS1_2 | s/Raku/ShitHub/ | Feb 28 12:01 |
| vZS1_2 | I still think they are good people but they have GIAFAM moles inside | Feb 28 12:02 |
| vmg3 | I really need some goodnews | Feb 28 12:03 |
| vmg3 | or food | Feb 28 12:03 |
| vZS1_2 | On the bright side, I've found a lot of great people who are just as dead set against ShitHub as I am. We're getting a lot done "behind the scenes". | Feb 28 12:04 |
| vZS1_2 | So there's some goodnews | Feb 28 12:05 |
| vmg3 | now feed me | Feb 28 12:05 |
| vZS1_2 | Kind of why I've been absent from IRC. Been too busy. | Feb 28 12:05 |
| vmg3 | i shall return | Feb 28 12:05 |
| vmg3 | It's sunday | Feb 28 12:06 |
| techrights-bot | "I’m just like everybody else, and I’ve had more than enough." https://heritage.umich.edu/stories/the-assassins-widow/ | Feb 28 12:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-heritage.umich.edu | The Assassin’s Widow | University of Michigan Heritage Project | Feb 28 12:06 | |
| vmg3 | yeah i miss twitter but it fuck right off | Feb 28 12:06 |
| techrights-bot | Hardware RAID for the fastest Raspberry Pi CM4 NAS! https://youtu.be/Zpfq8ZC2hyI just be sure to remove #microsoft from it because the #raspi Foundation certainly won't. http://techrights.org/2021/02/10/raspi-part-5/ | Feb 28 12:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hardware RAID for the fastest Raspberry Pi CM4 NAS! - YouTube | Feb 28 12:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Raspberry Pied in the Face — Part V: Raspberry Bye? The Lost of Trust is Pervasive and the (Un)Official Response Unhelpful | Techrights | Feb 28 12:07 | |
| techrights-bot | The CCP has underlined its determination to choose the next Dalai Lama, and Tibetans were recently urged by their Party Secretary to "reduce religious consumption" to build a "new modern socialist Tibet." https://joindiaspora.com/posts/20181094 | Feb 28 12:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody@joindiaspora.com: Tibet: The ‘Final Solution’? - https://chinachannel.org/2021/02/25/tibet-the-final-solution/ " Tibetan language teaching is outlawed and urbanisation campaigns relocate nomads from their ancestral pastures." not just #uyghurgenocide, #tibetangenocide too... #china | Feb 28 12:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> chinachannel.org | Tibet: The 'Final Solution'? – China Channel | Feb 28 12:08 | |
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| vmg3 | salami cheese and crackers all round | Feb 28 12:08 |
| techrights-bot | "Let us examine some unique attributes of Bitcoin and ask ourselves two questions: i) Can it be banned? and ii) If it can be banned, should it be?" https://www.deccanherald.com/specials/sunday-spotlight/the-most-profound-revolution-of-our-times-bitcoin-956221.html | Feb 28 12:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.deccanherald.com | The most profound revolution of our times: Bitcoin | Deccan Herald | Feb 28 12:09 | |
| vZS1_2 | schestowitz__: I'm heading off for now. My IPFS node will probably be unavailable over the next 2 weeks. Should resume to normal after. | Feb 28 12:09 |
| vZS1_2 | o/ and have a good Sunday | Feb 28 12:10 |
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| vmg3 | noice chatt | Feb 28 12:10 |
| schestowitz__ | [12:03] <vmg3> I really need some goodnews | Feb 28 12:12 |
| schestowitz__ | rocky linux dumped github | Feb 28 12:12 |
| schestowitz__ | I was probably the first to pressure them to | Feb 28 12:12 |
| vmg3 | thatis good | Feb 28 12:12 |
| schestowitz__ | not sure if others followed | Feb 28 12:12 |
| schestowitz__ | but they now have their own gitlab instance | Feb 28 12:12 |
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| vmg3 | i only used cent in docker anyway | Feb 28 12:13 |
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| schestowitz__ | yesterday we struggled a bit with systemd | Feb 28 12:13 |
| schestowitz__ | on debian | Feb 28 12:13 |
| schestowitz__ | after changing a daemon | Feb 28 12:13 |
| schestowitz__ | that introduces more complexity than necessary | Feb 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz__ | even a cron job would be simpler | Feb 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz__ | it caused unpredictable behaviour | Feb 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz__ | [15:24] <Techrights-sec> ok the system script is fixed, I'll copy a backup to ~/bin | Feb 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz__ | [15:25] <schestowitz__> Cheers, I'll test what existing scripts we have. I see that logging still goes into gemini-2021-02-27.log in ADDITION to the other file? Maybe two service running at the same time? Have not checked..... | Feb 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz__ | [15:28] <Techrights-sec> Hmm. That means a bug in the systemd file, I'll get it | Feb 28 12:14 |
| vmg3 | the world is full of that | Feb 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz__ | [15:29] <schestowitz__> the rest all seems to work now, I'll make it easier for me to monitor now, esp. as we tend to attract some crazy bots (two of them yesterday) | Feb 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz__ | [15:34] <Techrights-sec> KillMode=process | Feb 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz__ | [15:34] <Techrights-sec> needed to be | Feb 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz__ | [15:34] <Techrights-sec> KillMode=control-group | Feb 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz__ | [15:34] <Techrights-sec> or | Feb 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz__ | [15:34] <Techrights-sec> KillMode=mixed | Feb 28 12:14 |
| schestowitz__ | [15:34] <schestowitz__> The IBM way of doing think. IBM is not mast... I mean, leader in Linux | Feb 28 12:15 |
| schestowitz__ | [15:34] <schestowitz__> The IBM way of doing things. IBM is not mast... I mean, leader in Linux | Feb 28 12:15 |
| schestowitz__ | [15:35] <Techrights-sec> systemd is not about making things easier or more efficent, one look | Feb 28 12:15 |
| schestowitz__ | [15:35] <Techrights-sec> at the code belies that. What systemd appears to be about is IBM | Feb 28 12:15 |
| schestowitz__ | [15:35] <Techrights-sec> carrying through on M$ old goals of decommodifying Linux | Feb 28 12:15 |
| schestowitz__ | [15:35] <Techrights-sec> It's getting too complex for any amateur or part-timer | Feb 28 12:15 |
| vmg3 | thats true and the problem | Feb 28 12:16 |
| vmg3 | you guys leave me eating dust | Feb 28 12:17 |
| vmg3 | how are people supposed to keep abreast of it all | Feb 28 12:18 |
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| vmg3 | i have a bit of time to waste and either break it and move on or devise a bridge most people just want shit to work | Feb 28 12:20 |
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| schestowitz__ | gnu linux keeps changing | Feb 28 12:27 |
| schestowitz__ | few things do stay the same | Feb 28 12:27 |
| schestowitz__ | and then they're berated... "old" code | Feb 28 12:27 |
| schestowitz__ | like x11 | Feb 28 12:27 |
| schestowitz__ | even if that works | Feb 28 12:27 |
| schestowitz__ | so the bring in some buggy wayland on wheels, inside some wooden horse | Feb 28 12:27 |
| vmg3 | start x still works for me | Feb 28 12:27 |
| schestowitz__ | and say "x server" is old tech | Feb 28 12:27 |
| schestowitz__ | even if it works well for me | Feb 28 12:28 |
| schestowitz__ | it matured for many years | Feb 28 12:28 |
| schestowitz__ | not much left to improve in it | Feb 28 12:28 |
| vmg3 | i remember the first time i ran linux | Feb 28 12:28 |
| schestowitz__ | even the code is cleanly written and extensive | Feb 28 12:28 |
| schestowitz__ | that's how for ibm to monetise I suppose | Feb 28 12:28 |
| schestowitz__ | as communities can package it up | Feb 28 12:28 |
| vmg3 | just a grey sceen with an x for the mouse | Feb 28 12:28 |
| schestowitz__ | no need to buy ibm | Feb 28 12:28 |
| vmg3 | 486 25mhz | Feb 28 12:29 |
| schestowitz__ | wow, slow clock | Feb 28 12:29 |
| vmg3 | 6 floppy | Feb 28 12:29 |
| vmg3 | yes | Feb 28 12:29 |
| schestowitz__ | 5.25? | Feb 28 12:29 |
| vmg3 | no 1.25 | Feb 28 12:29 |
| schestowitz__ | do you reckon you can fire up SLACK on 23mhz? | Feb 28 12:29 |
| vmg3 | it was slak | Feb 28 12:29 |
| schestowitz__ | to do "chat"? | Feb 28 12:29 |
| schestowitz__ | no, I mean the company | Feb 28 12:30 |
| schestowitz__ | bought by salesforce | Feb 28 12:30 |
| schestowitz__ | copying irc | Feb 28 12:30 |
| schestowitz__ | 30 years later | Feb 28 12:30 |
| vmg3 | no | Feb 28 12:30 |
| schestowitz__ | 500MB of RAM tabs | Feb 28 12:30 |
| schestowitz__ | for irc | Feb 28 12:30 |
| vmg3 | i didn't last long | Feb 28 12:30 |
| schestowitz__ | with keylogger and mouse tracking | Feb 28 12:30 |
| schestowitz__ | not for you, for them | Feb 28 12:30 |
| vmg3 | i have an acct but dont use it | Feb 28 12:30 |
| vmg3 | its not my scene | Feb 28 12:31 |
| vmg3 | i think i said it before the world is html centric | Feb 28 12:31 |
| vmg3 | even ftp blows people | Feb 28 12:32 |
| vmg3 | talk irc or usenet and jaws drop | Feb 28 12:32 |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams #classwar ☞ 'All You Need to Know': Here Are the 210 House Republicans—and Two Democrats—Who Voted to Deny Struggling Nation Covid-19 Relief https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/02/27/all-you-need-know-here-are-210-house-republicans-and-two-democrats-who-voted-deny | Feb 28 12:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'All You Need to Know': Here Are the 210 House Republicans—and Two Democrats—Who Voted to Deny Struggling Nation Covid-19 Relief | Common Dreams News | Feb 28 12:32 | |
| schestowitz__ | vmg3: 2010: "slack is like IRC" | Feb 28 12:33 |
| vmg3 | i know a couple of pro coders that dont even know what linux is | Feb 28 12:33 |
| schestowitz__ | 2021: "IRC is kind of like Slack" | Feb 28 12:33 |
| schestowitz__ | people invert history | Feb 28 12:33 |
| vmg3 | they make it work in a browser | Feb 28 12:33 |
| vmg3 | pisses me off | Feb 28 12:34 |
| schestowitz__ | 'browser' | Feb 28 12:34 |
| schestowitz__ | 200MB binary | Feb 28 12:34 |
| schestowitz__ | to 'read' | Feb 28 12:34 |
| vmg3 | yep | Feb 28 12:34 |
| schestowitz__ | 'browse\ | Feb 28 12:34 |
| schestowitz__ | 'supposedly' | Feb 28 12:34 |
| schestowitz__ | who reads who? | Feb 28 12:34 |
| vmg3 | how do they turn it into $ | Feb 28 12:35 |
| vmg3 | personal data and adds | Feb 28 12:35 |
| vmg3 | now with phones its location spending and thoughts | Feb 28 12:35 |
| vmg3 | so many people dont even know their phone can listen to them | Feb 28 12:36 |
| vmg3 | don't believe it | Feb 28 12:36 |
| techrights-bot | "Advancing the Role of Women in the Intellectual Property Ecosystem" = making #patent extremists have more political clout by getting more people involved https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/02/uspto-womens-entrepreneurship-symposium.html #monopolies #femmewashing | Feb 28 12:37 |
| vmg3 | preposterous | Feb 28 12:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: USPTO Women's Entrepreneurship Symposium | Feb 28 12:37 | |
| vmg3 | when you said slack i thought puppy | Feb 28 12:37 |
| techrights-bot | #Zrythm 1.0.0-alpha.12.0.1 release • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148230 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 12:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zrythm 1.0.0-alpha.12.0.1 release | Tux Machines | Feb 28 12:38 | |
| techrights-bot | Shipping #Debian with #GNOME X.XX.0 is an extremely bad idea • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148231 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 12:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Shipping Debian with GNOME X.XX.0 is an extremely bad idea | Tux Machines | Feb 28 12:38 | |
| vmg3 | slax | Feb 28 12:39 |
| vmg3 | i have some gripes with linux but they are nothing compared to M$ | Feb 28 12:40 |
| vmg3 | there is always a distro that i find a little pleasure in | Feb 28 12:40 |
| techrights-bot | Oligarchs: If you raise the minimum wage, we'll have to fire many workers = If you compel us to pay a living wage, we'll have to give up some of our ill-gotten wealth and pass that to people whom we've long exploited to amass it in the first place | Feb 28 12:41 |
| vmg3 | old machines love some distros | Feb 28 12:41 |
| vmg3 | another think wikileaks blew out of the water with wages | Feb 28 12:41 |
| vmg3 | all the old military reports on china and russia | Feb 28 12:42 |
| vmg3 | said this time was 20 years away | Feb 28 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | 'old' | Feb 28 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | still applicable | Feb 28 12:42 |
| vmg3 | a little power hungry | Feb 28 12:42 |
| schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2020/08/01/ibm-and-the-bomb-part-4/ | Feb 28 12:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and the Bomb – Part IV: IBM’s Watson Came Under Fire for Representing the U.S. in U.S.S.R./Russia With No Qualifications or Any Relevant Experience | Techrights | Feb 28 12:42 | |
| vmg3 | but still useful | Feb 28 12:42 |
| vmg3 | shit i have a single core celeron i still use as a lab | Feb 28 12:43 |
| vmg3 | laptop | Feb 28 12:43 |
| techrights-bot | #FakeLeft #Biden Can Be the #FDR of Democracy https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/02/27/biden-can-be-fdr-democracy while dropping bombs in Syria. "Sleepy" OBOMBA VP. | Feb 28 12:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Biden Can Be the FDR of Democracy | Feb 28 12:44 | |
| vmg3 | cant throw that shit away | Feb 28 12:44 |
| schestowitz__ | if it works, why discard? | Feb 28 12:44 |
| schestowitz__ | main issue is running costs in the electricity sense | Feb 28 12:44 |
| vmg3 | i wouldnt keep a desktop of that age | Feb 28 12:45 |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams #fakeLeft #TwoPartySystem ☞ Opinion | With Biden's Jen Psaki at the Podium, Corporate Outlets No Longer Think Briefings Newsworthy https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/02/27/bidens-jen-psaki-podium-corporate-outlets-no-longer-think-briefings-newsworthy | Feb 28 12:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | With Biden's Jen Psaki at the Podium, Corporate Outlets No Longer Think Briefings Newsworthy | Feb 28 12:45 | |
| vmg3 | but I have neighbours bring me their pc that cant handle win and load a linux on there and they joy on their face is amazing | Feb 28 12:45 |
| vmg3 | a couple want to punch me | Feb 28 12:46 |
| vmg3 | it's the "change" that hurts them most | Feb 28 12:47 |
| vmg3 | same with telling people they read a shit newspaper | Feb 28 12:48 |
| vmg3 | some are just going to be upset | Feb 28 12:48 |
| vmg3 | linux has been an adventure | Feb 28 12:50 |
| vmg3 | for me | Feb 28 12:50 |
| vmg3 | with no training it's hard to explain to the non technical person | Feb 28 12:51 |
| vmg3 | salami and beer taste in my mouth time for me to go | Feb 28 12:53 |
| vmg3 | o/ | Feb 28 12:53 |
| techrights-bot | ● NEWS ● #CommonDreams ☞ Opinion | Charity Won't End Vaccine Apartheid—Only Challenging Big Pharma's #Patents and Profits Will https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/02/27/charity-wont-end-vaccine-apartheid-only-challenging-big-pharmas-patents-and-profits #twitter BANS people who bring up the subject: http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/twitter-censorship-bingo/ | Feb 28 13:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Charity Won't End Vaccine Apartheid—Only Challenging Big Pharma's Patents and Profits Will | Feb 28 13:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter Has Just Suspended the President of FFII for Naming Bill Gates Patent Profiteering and Factual Information About Twitter Censorship (Updated) | Techrights | Feb 28 13:03 | |
| schestowitz__ | vmg3: 0/ | Feb 28 13:03 |
| techrights-bot | #Lyra audio codec enables high-quality voice calls at 3 kbps bitrate http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148220#comment-28445 #google : spread #webp and spreading our codecs online... | Feb 28 13:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google for Slow Connections and Mozilla on Accessibility | Tux Machines | Feb 28 13:06 | |
| techrights-bot | Edit video on Linux with this Python app • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148232 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 13:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Edit video on Linux with this Python app | Tux Machines | Feb 28 13:06 | |
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| techrights-bot | #WIPO alongside crooked universities funded by right-wing extremists to protects oligarchs with #patents http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/02/sunday-surprises_28.html | Feb 28 14:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Sunday Surprises - The IPKat | Feb 28 14:12 | |
| techrights-bot | WTF? How did #itwire manage to make an article about #apple something a piece of #microsoft propaganda for #office360 #surveillance ?! https://www.itwire.com/home-it/first-look-the-2020-macbook-air-with-m1-processor-wow.html | Feb 28 14:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - First look - the 2020 MacBook Air with M1 processor - wow! | Feb 28 14:18 | |
| techrights-bot | Attackers collaborate to exploit CVE-2021-21972 and CVE-2021-21973 - Blueliv https://www.blueliv.com/cyber-security-and-cyber-threat-intelligence-blog-blueliv/attackers-collaborate-to-exploit-cve-2021-21972-and-cve-2021-21973/ | Feb 28 14:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Attackers collaborate to exploit CVE-2021-21972 and CVE-2021-21973 - Blueliv | Feb 28 14:18 | |
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| techrights-bot | #LinuxMint Monthly News – February 2021 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148233 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 15:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint Monthly News – February 2021 | Tux Machines | Feb 28 15:43 | |
| techrights-bot | The Fall of #TheRegister • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/the-register-microsoft-pr/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/02/28/the-register-microsoft-pr/ | Feb 28 15:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Fall of The Register | Techrights | Feb 28 15:51 | |
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| techrights-bot | More buzzwords. Servers you can shoot with a rifle and they'll be robust enough to keep operating in spite of the bullets. :-) http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/what-is-bulletproof-hosting | Feb 28 15:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxandubuntu.com | What Is Bulletproof Hosting | Feb 28 15:57 | |
| techrights-bot | #LinuxMint 's Update Manager To Encourage Users To Apply #Security Updates http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148233#comment-28446 #gnu #linux | Feb 28 16:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint Monthly News – February 2021 | Tux Machines | Feb 28 16:08 | |
| techrights-bot | You Know #GeminiSpace is Getting a Lot Bigger When You Need to Implement #DDOS Protection • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/gemini-ddos-protection/ •●• #Techrights gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/02/28/gemini-ddos-protection/ | Feb 28 16:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | You Know Gemini Space is Getting a Lot Bigger When You Need to Implement DDOS Protection | Techrights | Feb 28 16:18 | |
| techrights-bot | And Now For Something Completely Different • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148234 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #xfce #freesw | Feb 28 16:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | And Now For Something Completely Different | Tux Machines | Feb 28 16:18 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/2102158 | Feb 28 16:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5239420) | Feb 28 16:59 | |
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| techrights-bot | Today in #Techrights • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148235 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 17:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Feb 28 17:07 | |
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| techrights-bot | The Command Line for Weather and Football Scores, Among Other Stuff • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/the-command-line-for-weather-and-football-scores-among-other-stuff/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/02/28/the-command-line-for-weather-and-football-scores-among-other-stuff/ | Feb 28 17:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Command Line for Weather and Football Scores, Among Other Stuff | Techrights | Feb 28 17:29 | |
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| techrights-bot | #Testdisk To Recover Data From Deleted Flash Disk Drive • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148239 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 18:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Testdisk To Recover Data From Deleted Flash Disk Drive | Tux Machines | Feb 28 18:09 | |
| techrights-bot | The #Kate #TextEditor - February 2021 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148238 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 18:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Kate Text Editor - February 2021 | Tux Machines | Feb 28 18:09 | |
| techrights-bot | #Xfce ’s Apps Update for February 2021 Improves the Task Manager, Thunar, and More • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148237 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 18:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xfce’s Apps Update for February 2021 Improves the Task Manager, Thunar, and More | Tux Machines | Feb 28 18:09 | |
| techrights-bot | Top 10 #VersionControl Systems for Linux • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148236 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 18:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 10 Version Control Systems for Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 28 18:10 | |
| techrights-bot | #Mageia 8 Released with Better ARM Support and More • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148240 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 18:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mageia 8 Released with Better ARM Support and More | Tux Machines | Feb 28 18:19 | |
| techrights-bot | A word of caution about #TheRegister , a British publisher that nowadays does a lot of #reputationlaundering for #Microsoft and #BillGates • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/the-register-microsoft-pr/ •●• #Techrights gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/02/28/the-register-microsoft-pr/ | Feb 28 18:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was trying to get better support for WavPack and Musepack SV8 in Fedora. | Feb 28 18:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Apparently, the reason they were never well supported was patent concerns. | Feb 28 18:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But both are more than 20 years old now and any such patents would be expired. | Feb 28 18:34 |
| techrights-bot | #Techrights is currently working on tools or programs that help detect and respond to #DDOS attacks (or abusive over-consumption of pages) over gemini:// • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/gemini-ddos-protection/ •●• #Techrights #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/02/28/gemini-ddos-protection/ | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/02/28/#latest | Feb 28 18:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Feb 28 18:34 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The patent concerns are ridiculous on their face because if they might have been encumbered, so might FLAC, Vorbis, and Ogg Theora, which was actually far more likely, in fact. | Feb 28 18:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is precisely the problem. Anything non-trivial could certainly be patented, however, David Bryant was open with the methods that he was implementing and said that he only implemented compression methods that were known to be unencumbered in 1999. | Feb 28 18:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Xiph.org's only statement was that they wouldn't take out patents and assert them against you. They didn't make any claim that they actively avoided the possibility that FLAC and Vorbis were encumbered. | Feb 28 18:37 |
| techrights-bot | A lot of stuff can be done from the #commandline and productivity (not to mention #privacy ) enhanced by automation and scripting over the We • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/the-command-line-for-weather-and-football-scores-among-other-stuff/ •●• #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/02/28/the-command-line-for-weather-and-football-scores-among-ot | Feb 28 18:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Xiph seems to be a natural partner for GAFAM. | Feb 28 18:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And you notice that Facebook and Apple are even embracing them now. | Feb 28 18:40 |
| techrights-bot | More stuff you probably don't need in your already-bloated kernel https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Apple-Touch-Bar-For-Linux •●• #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | Feb 28 18:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple Touch Bar Linux Driver Hopes For Upstream In 2021 - Phoronix | Feb 28 18:41 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Xiph accepted the Microsoft patents in Opus under the "conforming implementations" term. | Feb 28 18:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And that's dangerous because the language would seem to suggest that accidental undefined behavior deviates from the standard and opens you up to be sued by Microsoft. | Feb 28 18:42 |
| techrights-bot | #gpl means companies need to let go in order to participate in #linux https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Xilinx-Alveo-Open-Source-V3 | Feb 28 18:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Xilinx Volleys Latest Open-Source Alveo Accelerator Driver Code - Phoronix | Feb 28 18:42 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hell, a compiler bug could even do it. | Feb 28 18:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they make a bumper standard to close bugs in the SILK layer, are you a conforming implementation if you don't implement it right away and you have products that use the old version? This has already happened. | Feb 28 18:43 |
| schestowitz__ | Microsoft loves Microsoft | Feb 28 18:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, one big point of Opus was to make a uniform codec for general audio and low bitrate voice, and it could have already performed better than MP3 or AAC with only the CELT layer. | Feb 28 18:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It seems that Xiph was corrupted, because 20 years ago, of course they asked why he did Vorbis and Chris Montgomery's response was the FhG letter threatening to sue people for using MP3. | Feb 28 18:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Wikipedia can't be trusted. They say "Open Standard? Yes." on a bunch of stuff with patents where you could easily be sued by the person who says you can implement it. | Feb 28 18:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They seem to go by "RAND" licensing terms, with a specification available to determine what an open standard might be. | Feb 28 18:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | All that means is you charge anyone the same amount of money and they get the patent license like anyone else would. | Feb 28 18:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they don't pay, then of course you can sue. Very open. | Feb 28 18:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | +2.35 million vaccine doses yesterday in the US. | Feb 28 18:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We're averaging 2.2 million per day now over the last week. | Feb 28 18:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So yes, it appears as if we are continuing to scale up. Drastically, even. Maybe I won't have to drive across half a state for my second dose. | Feb 28 18:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Chicago is a real mess. They keep proving that if something's worth doing, it's worth doing right. If it's not worth doing, give it to the government. | Feb 28 18:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But at least we're not like, MinceR's health minister. | Feb 28 18:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | May the Lord open! | Feb 28 18:53 |
| techrights-bot | Techrights Over 3 #Internet Protocols and From the Command Line, Using Either Curl/Wget/Text Editor (Over WWW) or #IPFS or #GeminiSpace • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/www-or-ipfs-or-gemini/ •●• #Techrights #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/02/28/www-or-ipfs-or-gemini/ | Feb 28 18:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Over 3 Internet Protocols and From the Command Line, Using Either Curl/Wget/Text Editor (Over WWW) or IPFS or Gemini | Techrights | Feb 28 18:55 | |
| techrights-bot | #KaliLinux 2021.1 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148105#comment-28447 #security #gnu #linux | Feb 28 18:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kali Linux 2021.1 Release (Command-Not-Found) | Tux Machines | Feb 28 18:59 | |
| techrights-bot | "Michael Larabel has also updated many existing benchmarks, including the ones for the commercial closed-source games Portal 2" https://linuxreviews.org/The_Phoronix_Test_Suite_Gains_Vulkan_Ray-Tracing_Benchmarks https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=February-2021-Benchmarks | Feb 28 19:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxreviews.org | The Phoronix Test Suite Gains Vulkan Ray-Tracing Benchmarks - LinuxReviews | Feb 28 19:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vulkan Ray-Tracing Along With Other New/Updated Benchmarks For February - Phoronix | Feb 28 19:00 | |
| techrights-bot | syncing subtitles in freedom http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/blogs/lxo/2021-02-28-syncing-subtitles-in-freedom.en.html #freesw #emacs | Feb 28 19:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsfla.org | ::[FSFLA]:: syncing subtitles in freedom | Feb 28 19:02 | |
| techrights-bot | 26 #Firefox Quantum About:Config Tricks You Need to Learn - Make Tech Easier ⇨ https://www.maketecheasier.com/28-coolest-firefox-aboutconfig-tricks/ •●• #maketecheasier | Feb 28 19:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 26 Firefox Quantum About:Config Tricks You Need to Learn - Make Tech Easier | Feb 28 19:02 | |
| techrights-bot | A quick demo of how Techrights can be accessed without a browser, either over gemini:// or over http:// • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/www-or-ipfs-or-gemini/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/02/28/www-or-ipfs-or-gemini/ | Feb 28 19:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: xn-- -1hn; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http:// • ) | Feb 28 19:06 | |
| techrights-bot | #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148241 •●• #google #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 19:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 28 19:06 | |
| techrights-bot | Linux 5.12 Features Intel Xe VRR, #Nintendo 64 Port + Clang LTO + Much More - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux-512-features&num=1 •●• #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/02/28/#latest | Feb 28 19:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.12 Features Intel Xe VRR, Nintendo 64 Port + Clang LTO + Much More - Phoronix | Feb 28 19:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Feb 28 19:09 | |
| techrights-bot | "Notable copyleft licences include the GNU General Public License (GPL), originally written by Richard Stallman, which was the first software copyleft licence to see extensive use" https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/bits-bytes-miscellany-technology-7 | Feb 28 19:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theedgemarkets.com | Bits + Bytes : A Miscellany of Technology | The Edge Markets | Feb 28 19:10 | |
| techrights-bot | Well before #python was taken over by #monopolies (notably GAFAM) it was a good #programming go-to set. Now they make your code obsolete by leaping to #python3 breakfest https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/20/python_at_30/ | Feb 28 19:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Happy birthday, Python, you're 30 years old this week: Easy to learn, and the right tool at the right time • The Register | Feb 28 19:15 | |
| techrights-bot | #Kodi v19 Matrix is here. Here's what you need to know http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147860#comment-28448 #freesw #gnu #linux | Feb 28 19:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kodi 19 "Matrix" Open-Source Home Theater Released, This Is What's New | Tux Machines | Feb 28 19:17 | |
| techrights-bot | #Kernel : Linux 5.12 Features, Some #Xilinx Code Liberated, Apple’s Hardware Support Added • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148242 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 19:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Linux 5.12 Features, Some Xilinx Code Liberated, Apple's Hardware Support Added | Tux Machines | Feb 28 19:18 | |
| techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148243 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 19:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Feb 28 19:18 | |
| techrights-bot | Links 28/2/2021: #Nitrux 1.3.8 and #Kraft 0.96 • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/nitrux-1-3-8/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/02/28/nitrux-1-3-8/ | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/02/28/#latest | Feb 28 19:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/2/2021: Nitrux 1.3.8 and Kraft 0.96 | Techrights | Feb 28 19:34 | |
| techrights-bot | #Benchmarks at #Phoronix and Phoronix Test Suite • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148244 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 19:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Benchmarks at Phoronix and Phoronix Test Suite | Tux Machines | Feb 28 19:35 | |
| techrights-bot | #Programming Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148245 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 19:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 28 19:35 | |
| techrights-bot | Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148246 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 19:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 28 19:38 | |
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| techrights-bot | If the Web Can Be Increasingly Replaced (or Complemented) by Gemini and #IPFS Etc., Then Large Monopolists Will Try to Dominate Those • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/if-the-web-was-replaced/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/02/28/if-the-web-was-replaced/ | Feb 28 20:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | If the Web Can Be Increasingly Replaced (or Complemented) by Gemini and IPFS Etc., Then Large Monopolists Will Try to Dominate Those | Techrights | Feb 28 20:24 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/cybsecbot/status/1365951131596292096 | Feb 28 20:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@cybsecbot: Latest articles about Ongoing threats RSS feed from the corresponding page on https://t.co/lfIEJcdlmK IRC Proceedi… https://t.co/17pQcRDlpj | Feb 28 20:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> emm.newsbrief.eu | NewsBrief | Feb 28 20:26 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@cybsecbot: Latest articles about Ongoing threats RSS feed from the corresponding page on https://t.co/lfIEJcdlmK IRC Proceedi… https://t.co/17pQcRDlpj | Feb 28 20:26 | |
| techrights-bot | This Week in Linux 140: Red Hat RHEL For FREE, Kali Linux, GNOME 40, Modular Laptops, DIY N64 ROMs | This Week in Linux - TuxDigital ⇨ https://tuxdigital.com/2021/02/thisweekinlinux-140/ •●• #TuxDigital #GNU #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/02/28/#latest | Feb 28 20:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-140: Red Hat RHEL For FREE, Kali Linux, GNOME 40, Modular Laptops, DIY N64 ROMs | This Week in Linux - TuxDigital | Feb 28 20:29 | |
| techrights-bot | Revisiting #Html in #Java ⇨ https://benjiweber.co.uk/blog/2021/02/28/revisiting-html-in-java/ •●• #benjiweber | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/02/28/#latest | Feb 28 20:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-benjiweber.co.uk | Revisiting Html in Java | Feb 28 20:32 | |
| techrights-bot | "I also made the following changes to #diffoscope , including preparing and uploading versions 167 and 168 to #Debian ..." https://chris-lamb.co.uk/posts/free-software-activities-in-february-2021 | Feb 28 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chris-lamb.co.uk | Free software activities in February 2021 - Chris Lamb | Feb 28 20:34 | |
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| techrights-bot | Monopolists and sociopaths won’t be clapping and cheering for whatever stands a chance of replacing the Web (or Big Banks) • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/if-the-web-was-replaced/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/02/28/if-the-web-was-replaced/ | Feb 28 20:35 |
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| techrights-bot | You know #patent #law may have outlived its usefulness when it's mostly used for #embargo and #blackmail rather than #innovation or collaboration/coordination https://www.managingip.com/article/b1qqx0f9870pmz/why-companies-could-flock-to-the-itc-this-year | Feb 28 20:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Why companies could flock to the ITC this year | Managing Intellectual Property | Feb 28 20:37 | |
| techrights-bot | FOSS Patents: Could a single state legislature topple both mobile app store #monopolies ? At least it could make a historical contribution. ⇨ http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/02/could-single-state-legislature-topple.html •●• #fosspatents | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/02/28/#latest | Feb 28 20:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Could a single state legislature topple both mobile app store monopolies? At least it could make a historical contribution. | Feb 28 20:38 | |
| techrights-bot | #WireGuard is good because it is #freesw but much of the #vpn 'industry' is truly laughable #snakeoil scamming people into fake #privacy (they keep logs) https://www.techradar.com/news/heres-why-vpn-services-are-turning-to-wireguard | Feb 28 20:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Here's why VPN services are turning to WireGuard | TechRadar | Feb 28 20:40 | |
| techrights-bot | "On my quest to a custom when-statement I did quite a bit of reading. The study of roast and Actions.nqp can lead to great gain in knowledge." #rakulang needs to #deletegithub https://gfldex.wordpress.com/2021/02/28/undocumented-escape-hatch/ | Feb 28 20:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gfldex.wordpress.com | Undocumented escape hatch | Playing Perl 6␛b6xA Raku | Feb 28 20:41 | |
| techrights-bot | #Flameshot 0.9 Released with Global Shortcut Menu, Improved #Wayland Support • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148247 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 20:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Flameshot 0.9 Released with Global Shortcut Menu, Improved Wayland Support | Tux Machines | Feb 28 20:41 | |
| techrights-bot | #IBM : the word "whitelist" is offensive, but our CEO "whitehurst" does not need to change his name. Because we at IBM are special kinds and masters of the universe... | Feb 28 20:42 |
| techrights-bot | #ibm is just the 'racist grandpa' of tech companies http://techrights.org/2021/02/20/misusing-the-linux-brand/ | Feb 28 20:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Misusing the Linux Brand for Reputation Laundering and Openwashing of Racist Companies (Which Profit From Racism) | Techrights | Feb 28 20:43 | |
| techrights-bot | #IBM : our SECOND-BIGGEST client was Nazi Germany, but look at us now. We CHAMPION the fight against #racism (yeah right... NOT) http://techrights.org/2020/09/29/banning-the-word-master/ | Feb 28 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Fought for ‘Master Race’ and Now It’s Banning the Word ‘Master’ | Techrights | Feb 28 20:44 | |
| techrights-bot | Import: #ImageMagick Can Even Take Screenshots - YouTube ⇨ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIYg_vYprmo •●• #Video #freesw | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/02/28/#latest | Feb 28 20:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Import: ImageMagick Can Even Take Screenshots - YouTube | Feb 28 20:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Feb 28 20:45 | |
| techrights-bot | Well done to #india re #gnu #linux adoption. Don't let Epstein's BFF #billgates tell you (or corrupt #modi whom Gates bribes) tell you what to do... https://www.edexlive.com/news/2021/feb/21/kite-releases-new-free-and-open-sourcedoperating-system-kerala-18406.html | Feb 28 20:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KITE releases new, free and open-sourced operating system, to benefit lakhs of computer users in Ker- Edexlive | Feb 28 20:47 | |
| mjg59 | 08:28 < schestowitz__> that's like saying "I pay tax in the UK", hence I'm culpable for Diego Garcia fiasco | Feb 28 20:51 |
| mjg59 | You probably don't have a meaningful choice about whether you pay tax in the UK | Feb 28 20:51 |
| techrights-bot | Shame on #InfoQ posting #microsoft spam and #googleboming the word #linux to promote an attack on it, #WSL , which almost nobody uses http://techrights.org/2020/05/06/wsl2-usage-numbers/ | Feb 28 20:51 |
| mjg59 | schestowitz__: But you *do* have a meaningful choice about whether you work for an organisation that, at the time, was led by a person who engaged in illegal acts | Feb 28 20:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Only About 150,000 People Worldwide Use WSL2 (Windows Subsystem for Linux) | Techrights | Feb 28 20:51 | |
| techrights-bot | Videos/Shows: #ImageMagick , GNU World Order, and #ThisWeekInLinux (TWIL) • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148248 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 21:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos/Shows: ImageMagick, GNU World Order, and This Week in Linux (TWIL) | Tux Machines | Feb 28 21:06 | |
| techrights-bot | On Gangstalking and Victim-Blaming • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/pocock-on-victim-blaming/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/02/28/pocock-on-victim-blaming/ | Feb 28 21:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | On Gangstalking and Victim-Blaming | Techrights | Feb 28 21:06 | |
| techrights-bot | #ubuntu -based #LinuxLite 5.4 RC1 is here to replace Microsoft #vista10 on your PC http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148207#comment-28449 | Feb 28 21:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Lite 5.4 Will Be Based on Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS, Release Candidate Ready for Testing | Tux Machines | Feb 28 21:10 | |
| schestowitz__ | mjg59: I never worked >for< GLa | Feb 28 21:12 |
| schestowitz__ | That's like berating a gardener because one of his many clients was a Google employee like you | Feb 28 21:12 |
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| techrights-bot | "Thanks to the authors because the game is fully open-source" but needs to #deletegithub because that is #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly https://www.davidrevoy.com/article818/derivation-peppertown-video-game-by-congusbongus-and-starnavigator | Feb 28 21:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.davidrevoy.com | Derivation: Peppertown video-game by Congusbongus and StarNavigator - David Revoy | Feb 28 21:16 | |
| techrights-bot | #RaspberryPi Powered LCD Chalkboard Smart Sign - Makers Corner, with Nate and Yannick ⇨ https://makerscorner.tech/raspberry-pi-powered-lcd-chalkboard-smart-sign/ •●• #makerscorner | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/02/28/#latest | Feb 28 21:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-makerscorner.tech | Raspberry Pi Powered LCD Chalkboard Smart Sign – Makers Corner, with Nate and Yannick | Feb 28 21:17 | |
| techrights-bot | "when considering that only about 4.7 billion people are online, COMB would include the data of nearly 70% of global internet users" https://cybernews.com/news/largest-compilation-of-emails-and-passwords-leaked-free/ | Feb 28 21:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-COMB - Biggest Data Breach of All Time Explained | CyberNews | Feb 28 21:18 | |
| mjg59 | schestowitz__: You worked for a company that worked for GLA which was led by someone who wanted to engage in illegal acts against his electorate. I worked for a company that worked for the DoD doing development work that could be used to kill people. | Feb 28 21:18 |
| mjg59 | What's the difference between these things? | Feb 28 21:19 |
| techrights-bot | Signing one's own stuff to trust oneself ;-p https://www.lisenet.com/2021/create-your-own-certificate-authority-ca-for-homelab-environment/ | Feb 28 21:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Create Your Own Certificate Authority (CA) for Homelab Environment | Lisenet.com :: Linux | Security | Networking | Feb 28 21:19 | |
| schestowitz__ | many differences | Feb 28 21:20 |
| schestowitz__ | Google itself is evil | Feb 28 21:20 |
| schestowitz__ | not just DoD | Feb 28 21:20 |
| schestowitz__ | You are in denial about what you joined | Feb 28 21:20 |
| schestowitz__ | and they fired you | Feb 28 21:20 |
| schestowitz__ | or you left | Feb 28 21:20 |
| schestowitz__ | you never specified which | Feb 28 21:20 |
| schestowitz__ | So I assume they fired you | Feb 28 21:20 |
| schestowitz__ | they also just fired more workers | Feb 28 21:20 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:34] [Notice] -TechrightsSocial to #boycottnovell-social- cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | google stadia: Google fires 150 game developers hired for Stadia: Report, IT News, ET CIO | Feb 28 21:20 |
| mjg59 | schestowitz__: Ok! We have a differentiating point | Feb 28 21:23 |
| mjg59 | schestowitz__: So it's ok to work for a company that works for evil organisations, but not to work for a company that is itself evil? | Feb 28 21:23 |
| schestowitz__ | no | Feb 28 21:24 |
| schestowitz__ | I did not join when GLA was a client | Feb 28 21:24 |
| schestowitz__ | not even close | Feb 28 21:24 |
| schestowitz__ | anyway, welcome to the hacker culture | Feb 28 21:24 |
| schestowitz__ | help us replace Google and the likes of it | Feb 28 21:24 |
| schestowitz__ | they spy on us and undermine our security to spy on us (and vice versa) | Feb 28 21:24 |
| mjg59 | schestowitz__: The case study says that GLA has been a client for almost a decade | Feb 28 21:24 |
| schestowitz__ | for society to properly function we need them to go away | Feb 28 21:24 |
| schestowitz__ | Google helps spy on protesters | Feb 28 21:24 |
| mjg59 | schestowitz__: So you've worked there while the GLA were a client | Feb 28 21:24 |
| schestowitz__ | you surely read about thsi | Feb 28 21:24 |
| mjg59 | Why didn't you leave? | Feb 28 21:25 |
| schestowitz__ | No, GLA was a client since 2013 | Feb 28 21:25 |
| schestowitz__ | I know cause I traveled there | Feb 28 21:25 |
| schestowitz__ | I secured our contract with them too, in a sense.. | Feb 28 21:25 |
| mjg59 | Oh, so you actively worked on gaining an organisation led by someone who wanted to engage in illegal violence against his electorate as a client? | Feb 28 21:25 |
| schestowitz__ | the water canon came years later | Feb 28 21:26 |
| schestowitz__ | he had been there for 5 years prior to it | Feb 28 21:26 |
| mjg59 | But you kept the contract | Feb 28 21:26 |
| schestowitz__ | (to that contract https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson ) | Feb 28 21:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Boris Johnson - Wikipedia | Feb 28 21:26 | |
| schestowitz__ | and London is one of the world's biggest economies | Feb 28 21:26 |
| mjg59 | And you continued working for that company | Feb 28 21:26 |
| schestowitz__ | so to say that working with "something London" is bad is amazingly broad | Feb 28 21:26 |
| schestowitz__ | like saying "boycott USA" | Feb 28 21:27 |
| schestowitz__ | (which is hard) | Feb 28 21:27 |
| mjg59 | Why didn't you quit and work somewhere that didn't work for organisations led by unethical people? | Feb 28 21:27 |
| mjg59 | GLA != London | Feb 28 21:27 |
| schestowitz__ | GLA is Town Hall | Feb 28 21:27 |
| schestowitz__ | for London | Feb 28 21:27 |
| schestowitz__ | They even renamed | Feb 28 21:27 |
| mjg59 | Yes | Feb 28 21:27 |
| mjg59 | They're not the entire London economy | Feb 28 21:27 |
| mjg59 | Why didn't you quit? | Feb 28 21:27 |
| schestowitz__ | If you compare GLA to Google you worse than kid yourself! | Feb 28 21:27 |
| schestowitz__ | And it's not run by someone from a Pakistani family | Feb 28 21:27 |
| schestowitz__ | immigrant (father) | Feb 28 21:28 |
| mjg59 | So explain the difference | Feb 28 21:28 |
| schestowitz__ | and that's who we work for as a client for 5 years now | Feb 28 21:28 |
| mjg59 | Sure, but for a while it was led by someone who wanted to engage in illegal violence against his electorate | Feb 28 21:28 |
| mjg59 | And you made money off them during that time | Feb 28 21:28 |
| schestowitz__ | or maybe you think Sadiq too is evil | Feb 28 21:28 |
| schestowitz__ | I actually stayed off the water cannon poll | Feb 28 21:29 |
| schestowitz__ | because I did not support it | Feb 28 21:29 |
| schestowitz__ | and wanted nothing to do with that | Feb 28 21:29 |
| mjg59 | I'm not sure why the immigrant aspect is important here - Google's led by someone born in India | Feb 28 21:29 |
| schestowitz__ | I focused on Drupal | Feb 28 21:29 |
| mjg59 | You didn't support it, but you did nothing about it | Feb 28 21:29 |
| schestowitz__ | Google is led by its shareholders | Feb 28 21:29 |
| schestowitz__ | they chose a CEO | Feb 28 21:29 |
| schestowitz__ | the Board | Feb 28 21:29 |
| schestowitz__ | Microsoft and IBM did the same | Feb 28 21:29 |
| mjg59 | In the sense that Google is led by Larry and Sergey, sure | Feb 28 21:30 |
| mjg59 | The rest of the board has no meaningful power in comparison | Feb 28 21:30 |
| schestowitz__ | it helps distract from institutional racism in those companies -- a problem that is getting endemic | Feb 28 21:30 |
| mjg59 | Sergey was born in Russia | Feb 28 21:30 |
| schestowitz__ | yup | Feb 28 21:30 |
| schestowitz__ | and they can fire Google's CEO | Feb 28 21:30 |
| schestowitz__ | they are more powerful | Feb 28 21:30 |
| schestowitz__ | Gates is still the most powerful person at Microsoft | Feb 28 21:30 |
| mjg59 | But again, why did you do nothing when one of your clients was led by an evil person? | Feb 28 21:30 |
| schestowitz__ | and also a friend of people who screw kids and traffic them | Feb 28 21:31 |
| schestowitz__ | does not bother him | Feb 28 21:31 |
| schestowitz__ | mjg59: that person is your Prime Minoster | Feb 28 21:31 |
| schestowitz__ | You realise that, right? | Feb 28 21:31 |
| mjg59 | And? | Feb 28 21:31 |
| mjg59 | He wasn't at the time | Feb 28 21:32 |
| schestowitz__ | And for 4 years your residential country's president was a famous criminal, Trump | Feb 28 21:32 |
| schestowitz__ | why didn't you leave USA? | Feb 28 21:32 |
| mjg59 | You didn't have to work for him | Feb 28 21:32 |
| schestowitz__ | We worked for GLA | Feb 28 21:32 |
| schestowitz__ | he doesn't own GLA | Feb 28 21:32 |
| mjg59 | He led GLA | Feb 28 21:32 |
| schestowitz__ | and now Labour controls GLA | Feb 28 21:32 |
| mjg59 | And engaged in illegal acts while doing so | Feb 28 21:32 |
| schestowitz__ | the cannon thing | Feb 28 21:32 |
| mjg59 | Why did you keep GLA as a client? | Feb 28 21:32 |
| schestowitz__ | years afterwards | Feb 28 21:32 |
| MinceR | https://reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/popcorn_stephen_colbert.gif | Feb 28 21:33 |
| schestowitz__ | GLA was no longer a client around that time or shortly afterwards | Feb 28 21:33 |
| schestowitz__ | he too left | Feb 28 21:33 |
| schestowitz__ | and the canon was sold | Feb 28 21:33 |
| schestowitz__ | cannon | Feb 28 21:33 |
| schestowitz__ | not the company | Feb 28 21:33 |
| schestowitz__ | 2016 he left: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson | Feb 28 21:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Boris Johnson - Wikipedia | Feb 28 21:34 | |
| schestowitz__ | May | Feb 28 21:34 |
| schestowitz__ | "Johnson did not run for a third term for Mayor of London and stepped down on 5 May 2016 following the election of former transport minister, Sadiq Khan. Johnson left office still popular with the people of London. A YouGov poll commissioned at the end of his term revealed that 52% of Londoners believed he did a "good job" as Mayor of London while only 29% believed he did a "bad job".[295] In 2016, Sadiq Khan announced that three | Feb 28 21:34 |
| schestowitz__ | German-made water cannon, which Johnson had bought for the Metropolitan Police without waiting for clearance from the then-Home Secretary Theresa May, were to be sold off with the funds going to youth services.[296] The vehicles proved to be unsellable and were eventually sold for scrap in 2018 at a £300,000 loss.[297]" | Feb 28 21:34 |
| mjg59 | So the facts are: | Feb 28 21:34 |
| mjg59 | 1) GLA was led by Boris Johnson, who bought illegal water cannon to use against the population of London | Feb 28 21:34 |
| mjg59 | 2) You worked for a company that kept GLA as a client despite this being publicly known | Feb 28 21:35 |
| schestowitz__ | water cannons are nowhere as lethal as what Google does | Feb 28 21:35 |
| schestowitz__ | not even indirectly | Feb 28 21:35 |
| mjg59 | I'm not saying that you were involved in the illegal behaviour of the mayor at the time | Feb 28 21:35 |
| mjg59 | But I'm asking what the line you draw is | Feb 28 21:35 |
| schestowitz__ | but go ahead make equivalences | Feb 28 21:36 |
| mjg59 | How unethical does a client have to be before a company should divest themselves of them? | Feb 28 21:36 |
| schestowitz__ | I drew a line | Feb 28 21:36 |
| schestowitz__ | In would not touch that part of GLA | Feb 28 21:36 |
| schestowitz__ | as I opposed this | Feb 28 21:36 |
| schestowitz__ | and it's typically (typically!) not a lethal weapon | Feb 28 21:36 |
| vmg3 | you can't blame me, says the media man I wasn't the one who came up with the plan I just point my camera at what the people want to see it's a two way mirror and you can't blame me | Feb 28 21:36 |
| mjg59 | Sure, like I didn't touch any part of Google that did anything I disagreed with | Feb 28 21:36 |
| vmg3 | o/ morning | Feb 28 21:36 |
| schestowitz__ | Google did projects that killed many thousands, directly | Feb 28 21:36 |
| schestowitz__ | vmg3: 0/ g'day | Feb 28 21:37 |
| schestowitz__ | bbl | Feb 28 21:37 |
| vmg3 | yeah | Feb 28 21:37 |
| mjg59 | What you're describing is a difference of degree, not kind | Feb 28 21:37 |
| mjg59 | And you've drawn a line that, somehow, has you on the good side and me on the bade side | Feb 28 21:37 |
| mjg59 | Other people might draw that line in a different place | Feb 28 21:37 |
| schestowitz__ | Your company works for literal death machines | Feb 28 21:38 |
| schestowitz__ | and you make that the equivalent of LONDON TOWN HALL | Feb 28 21:38 |
| mjg59 | Which ones? | Feb 28 21:38 |
| schestowitz__ | yes,a town hall | Feb 28 21:38 |
| schestowitz__ | of britain's capital | Feb 28 21:39 |
| mjg59 | Maven got cancelled because employees were willing to stand up against it | Feb 28 21:39 |
| mjg59 | But apparently you were unwilling to stand up against one of your clients acting illegally | Feb 28 21:39 |
| techrights-bot | #Mageia 8 has been released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148186#comment-28450 #gnu #linux | Feb 28 21:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mageia 8 Released with Linux 5.10 LTS, Better Support for NVIDIA Optimus Laptops | Tux Machines | Feb 28 21:40 | |
| techrights-bot | Security: #ReproducibleBuilds , VPNs, COMB and More • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148249 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 21:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Reproducible Builds, VPNs, COMB and More | Tux Machines | Feb 28 21:40 | |
| schestowitz__ | I stand up against a lot where I work | Feb 28 21:41 |
| schestowitz__ | at risk to myself | Feb 28 21:41 |
| schestowitz__ | esp. proprietary software and 'clown' | Feb 28 21:41 |
| mjg59 | Good! | Feb 28 21:42 |
| mjg59 | I also stood up against a lot at Google | Feb 28 21:42 |
| mjg59 | At risk to myself | Feb 28 21:42 |
| mjg59 | Such as contracts with the DoD, the illegal firing of coworkers and leadership lying about these things | Feb 28 21:42 |
| schestowitz__ | so is that why they fired you? | Feb 28 21:43 |
| mjg59 | I wasn't fired | Feb 28 21:43 |
| schestowitz__ | so what happened? | Feb 28 21:43 |
| schestowitz__ | you never explained | Feb 28 21:43 |
| schestowitz__ | pause | Feb 28 21:43 |
| schestowitz__ | awkward | Feb 28 21:43 |
| mjg59 | I came to the conclusion that leadership wasn't going to alter their behaviour in any reasonable timeframe, so I left | Feb 28 21:44 |
| techrights-bot | "It is ironic that the first person to depart the Biden administration was sanctioned for threatening somebody else’s career." • 𝕿𝖊𝖈𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍𝖙𝖘 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/02/28/pocock-on-victim-blaming/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/02/28/pocock-on-victim-blaming/ | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/02/28/#latest | Feb 28 21:44 |
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| schestowitz__ | mjg59: what's the plan now? | Feb 28 21:45 |
| schestowitz__ | join us | Feb 28 21:45 |
| schestowitz__ | let's make cool things | Feb 28 21:45 |
| schestowitz__ | Google no longer does | Feb 28 21:45 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe it did 20 years ago | Feb 28 21:45 |
| mjg59 | Which was unfortunate, because we had made progress in multiple respects (killing Dragonfly and Maven, removing forced arbitration clauses that had been used to prevent people from seeking damages in court after being sexually harassed, ensuring that contractors and temp workers had equivalent healthcare and legal protections) | Feb 28 21:45 |
| schestowitz__ | with the chefs and one day a week "do your own thing" stuff... and "don't be evil" | Feb 28 21:45 |
| mjg59 | And that had not only stalled, it had started getting actively worse (the firing of Timnit and the lies about her having "resigned", for instance) | Feb 28 21:46 |
| schestowitz__ | Google is a waste of time | Feb 28 21:46 |
| schestowitz__ | you must be mid 40s | Feb 28 21:46 |
| schestowitz__ | i.e. over halfway in your working life | Feb 28 21:46 |
| mjg59 | No, turned 40 6 months ago | Feb 28 21:46 |
| schestowitz__ | ok | Feb 28 21:46 |
| schestowitz__ | let's do fun stuff | Feb 28 21:46 |
| schestowitz__ | Google isn't the place | Feb 28 21:47 |
| mjg59 | I'm doing fun stuff, thanks | Feb 28 21:47 |
| schestowitz__ | it's the place to earn money by serving oppressors | Feb 28 21:47 |
| schestowitz__ | money you can never meaningfully spend anyway | Feb 28 21:47 |
| mjg59 | I get to continue working on security that can be used by people who want to make it harder for governments to compromise their systems | Feb 28 21:47 |
| mjg59 | I get to continue building things that will be used by activists | Feb 28 21:47 |
| schestowitz__ | governments and 'Googles' | Feb 28 21:47 |
| schestowitz__ | the govs do it by proxy typically | Feb 28 21:48 |
| schestowitz__ | with or without a contract | Feb 28 21:48 |
| schestowitz__ | gov. "programmes" | Feb 28 21:48 |
| mjg59 | Well, yes, the goal is always to ensure that private entities are no more privileged in this respect | Feb 28 21:48 |
| schestowitz__ | let's not forget | Feb 28 21:48 |
| *randomgry is now known as gry | Feb 28 21:48 | |
| schestowitz__ | you cannot help the very firms you fight against and on balance be better off | Feb 28 21:48 |
| mjg59 | Nonsense | Feb 28 21:48 |
| schestowitz__ | it's like peeing on the floor while wiping it off with a mop | Feb 28 21:48 |
| mjg59 | The firms are equally invested in not being compromised by governments | Feb 28 21:48 |
| schestowitz__ | haha | Feb 28 21:49 |
| schestowitz__ | no | Feb 28 21:49 |
| mjg59 | Google doesn't want to get hacked by China again | Feb 28 21:49 |
| schestowitz__ | they need money | Feb 28 21:49 |
| schestowitz__ | Google wants to access the Chinese market | Feb 28 21:49 |
| schestowitz__ | same for FB | Feb 28 21:49 |
| schestowitz__ | Microsoft is in there, as it's doing evil things | Feb 28 21:49 |
| schestowitz__ | and later it has the audacity to gaslight us, to let us forget what it does for/in china | Feb 28 21:49 |
| mjg59 | Google wants access to the Chinese market, but not if doing so impairs their ability to serve (say) the US market | Feb 28 21:49 |
| mjg59 | Which would happen if China were able to compromise Google systems | Feb 28 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | because there's more money in pentagon budget | Feb 28 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | US compromised Google's systems already | Feb 28 21:50 |
| mjg59 | Sure, I'm receptive to the idea that the incentive here isn't ethical | Feb 28 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | even sem-voluntarily | Feb 28 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | *semi | Feb 28 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | I worry more about the US | Feb 28 21:50 |
| mjg59 | But the incentive exists | Feb 28 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | see what the US does to us | Feb 28 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | people like Assange | Feb 28 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | that's not Russia or China | Feb 28 21:50 |
| mjg59 | See what China does to its own citizens | Feb 28 21:51 |
| schestowitz__ | Russia tries to kill people | Feb 28 21:51 |
| schestowitz__ | china.... not as much as KSA | Feb 28 21:51 |
| mjg59 | In extremely large numbers | Feb 28 21:51 |
| schestowitz__ | less so overseas | Feb 28 21:51 |
| mjg59 | Russia's not engaging in an active program of genocide | Feb 28 21:51 |
| schestowitz__ | I want to see stories of espionage and blackmail against our politicians here... by China | Feb 28 21:51 |
| schestowitz__ | that's a US thing | Feb 28 21:51 |
| schestowitz__ | and Google facilitates it | Feb 28 21:51 |
| mjg59 | And I want to see stories of how activists are able to use technology to protect themselves against their own government | Feb 28 21:52 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe one day China will do it | Feb 28 21:52 |
| schestowitz__ | it's aware of blowback risk | Feb 28 21:52 |
| mjg59 | Because that's far more common | Feb 28 21:52 |
| schestowitz__ | but for now China is collecting data, not leveraging it for blackmail like US and Russia do | Feb 28 21:52 |
| mjg59 | The reason Google is blocked by China is because Google /wouldn't/ let China spy on its own citizens | Feb 28 21:52 |
| schestowitz__ | no, not really, there's more to it | Feb 28 21:53 |
| schestowitz__ | it's one of several factors | Feb 28 21:53 |
| schestowitz__ | Google still brings lots of money to China | Feb 28 21:53 |
| schestowitz__ | China has a nationalist tech policy | Feb 28 21:53 |
| schestowitz__ | they worry about foreign giants spying on them | Feb 28 21:53 |
| schestowitz__ | espionage against military members etc. | Feb 28 21:53 |
| schestowitz__ | almost understandable | Feb 28 21:53 |
| schestowitz__ | given the habits of regime change and Opium Wars I & 2 | Feb 28 21:54 |
| schestowitz__ | they learned from history | Feb 28 21:54 |
| schestowitz__ | hard to blame them on that level | Feb 28 21:54 |
| mjg59 | Anyway, I'm continuing to work on what I'm good at, and in doing so I'll continue helping people who are otherwise at greater risk | Feb 28 21:55 |
| techrights-bot | #microsoft clowns and professional liars on #clownComputing 'security' (a paradox... the moment you outsource to the clown you are COMPROMISED, technically) https://www.itwire.com/security/microsoft-chief-s-claims-on-cloud-security-result-in-sharp-rejoinder.html | Feb 28 21:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Microsoft chief's claims on cloud security result in sharp rejoinder | Feb 28 21:56 | |
| techrights-bot | #microsoft gives hope to many: if you have mental deficit and are morally corrupt, there are still job prospects for you. Apply for a job at Microsoft today... maybe. Because they're firing loads of workers and barely hire. | Feb 28 21:59 |
| techrights-bot | Video: Many #Microsoft Layoffs in 2020, Including #Azure #Layoffs http://techrights.org/2021/01/03/microsoft-layoffs-2020/ | Feb 28 22:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Video: Many Microsoft Layoffs in 2020, Including Azure Layoffs | Techrights | Feb 28 22:00 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | <mjg59 "Anyway, I'm continuing to work o"> Causing security policy violations when I want to boot my computer and have it work? | Feb 28 22:01 |
| schestowitz__ | GAFAM 'security' | Feb 28 22:02 |
| schestowitz__ | securing their monopolies | Feb 28 22:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Due to some insane standard that will never work, but I'm sure makes sense to PHBs at Intel who add entire fake security to the ISA only to back it out two years later because it slows down program execution 50% and doesn't work. :) | Feb 28 22:02 |
| schestowitz__ | monopolised "trust", always at the users' expense | Feb 28 22:02 |
| schestowitz__ | security is a science | Feb 28 22:03 |
| schestowitz__ | in the sense that, | Feb 28 22:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We'll see if Control Flow Guard actually works or if that too gets backed out and dropped. | Feb 28 22:03 |
| schestowitz__ | given some provable mathematical (or expressed in maths) notion, | Feb 28 22:03 |
| schestowitz__ | you can assure something is never possible | Feb 28 22:03 |
| schestowitz__ | or infeasible | Feb 28 22:04 |
| schestowitz__ | but they add more layers of complexity | Feb 28 22:04 |
| schestowitz__ | as that obscures what goes o | Feb 28 22:04 |
| schestowitz__ | spy agencies then hire mathematicians | Feb 28 22:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Intel is always coming up with powerpoint slides about new CPU features. | Feb 28 22:04 |
| schestowitz__ | to plow through the mess they had created | Feb 28 22:04 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Then they quietly get taken out to the graveyard a few years later. | Feb 28 22:04 |
| schestowitz__ | to make things just "almost' safe enough for Internet banking | Feb 28 22:04 |
| schestowitz__ | and of course for banks | Feb 28 22:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But there's more presentations and more people in suits with pointy sticks. | Feb 28 22:04 |
| schestowitz__ | but not for anyone else in the world world | Feb 28 22:04 |
| schestowitz__ | *whole world | Feb 28 22:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | mjg59 has a suit and a point stick I'm sure. | Feb 28 22:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *pointy | Feb 28 22:05 |
| schestowitz__ | Intel hires DX http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks | Feb 28 22:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights | Feb 28 22:05 | |
| schestowitz__ | I.e. Microsoft Word drones and pigeons | Feb 28 22:05 |
| schestowitz__ | who just about know how to press a second mouse button and have lunch with the "friends from MIcrosoft" | Feb 28 22:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's just depressing how many resources are wasted on this broken feature treadmill Intel has going on. | Feb 28 22:06 |
| schestowitz__ | not just Intel | Feb 28 22:06 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't need 100 billion transistors to send email | Feb 28 22:06 |
| schestowitz__ | I just need a reliable chip that lets me do encryption | Feb 28 22:07 |
| schestowitz__ | not some in-hardware RNG that intentionally gives low entropy | Feb 28 22:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The CDC pinged me to ask how I'm feeling today. | Feb 28 22:07 |
| schestowitz__ | automated | Feb 28 22:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I checked in and said Good and no complaints. | Feb 28 22:07 |
| schestowitz__ | they turn nations into "labs" | Feb 28 22:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, it's basically vaccine telemetry. | Feb 28 22:08 |
| schestowitz__ | and they then use them for marketing | Feb 28 22:08 |
| schestowitz__ | using secret deals | Feb 28 22:08 |
| schestowitz__ | very worrying | Feb 28 22:08 |
| schestowitz__ | I got vaccinated | Feb 28 22:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | V-Safe is voluntary. | Feb 28 22:08 |
| schestowitz__ | but not using this experimental crap | Feb 28 22:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You don't have to sign up or tell them anything. | Feb 28 22:08 |
| schestowitz__ | let them finish their experiments | Feb 28 22:08 |
| schestowitz__ | then we'll examine the literature, not their media 'ads' | Feb 28 22:09 |
| schestowitz__ | BBC et al | Feb 28 22:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I am an experiment. I get it. | Feb 28 22:09 |
| schestowitz__ | yup | Feb 28 22:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | COVID is entirely out of control. | Feb 28 22:09 |
| schestowitz__ | and you drove a lot to volunteer | Feb 28 22:09 |
| schestowitz__ | my dad wants to try the johnson and johnson one | Feb 28 22:09 |
| schestowitz__ | because of how it works | Feb 28 22:09 |
| schestowitz__ | or said to work | Feb 28 22:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's under an EUA while they still have Phase 3 testing going on, officially. | Feb 28 22:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Phase 3 testing will not be finished until at least 2024. | Feb 28 22:10 |
| schestowitz__ | less invasive, lets the body build its own defenses | Feb 28 22:10 |
| schestowitz__ | people with underlying conditions can be killed by the shots/jobs, rather than the real thing that they might NEVER contract anyway | Feb 28 22:10 |
| schestowitz__ | *jabs | Feb 28 22:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | By then most Americans will have had the shot under Emergency Use. | Feb 28 22:10 |
| schestowitz__ | ask Norway | Feb 28 22:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 78 million shots so far. | Feb 28 22:10 |
| schestowitz__ | does not say much | Feb 28 22:10 |
| schestowitz__ | which variant | Feb 28 22:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some of them the second one, so like 50 million total people.....ish. | Feb 28 22:11 |
| schestowitz__ | which firm | Feb 28 22:11 |
| schestowitz__ | what dosage | Feb 28 22:11 |
| schestowitz__ | it's a tick-boxing exercice | Feb 28 22:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They offered mom the Moderna one and she declined it. | Feb 28 22:11 |
| schestowitz__ | it doesn't tell you what they want you to think it tells you | Feb 28 22:11 |
| schestowitz__ | they want to flag those people as "DONE" or "IMMUNE" | Feb 28 22:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She said she would have taken it except if you get sick and need to call off, they'll point you. | Feb 28 22:11 |
| schestowitz__ | doesn't work like that | Feb 28 22:11 |
| schestowitz__ | immunity wears off | Feb 28 22:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But her boss still comes in and shames people who won't take it. | Feb 28 22:11 |
| schestowitz__ | viruses mutate | Feb 28 22:11 |
| schestowitz__ | and they can under-report deaths | Feb 28 22:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes, schestowitz__ My hope is that there will be long term "memory" of the spike protein and that it doesn't change enough to evade detection. | Feb 28 22:12 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: useful idiot of the firms maybe | Feb 28 22:12 |
| schestowitz__ | some of them are paid for it | Feb 28 22:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not a given, of course. | Feb 28 22:12 |
| schestowitz__ | to get on with the experiment | Feb 28 22:12 |
| schestowitz__ | for sales | Feb 28 22:12 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: you can hope | Feb 28 22:12 |
| schestowitz__ | we don't know enough, do we? | Feb 28 22:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're already talking boosters, so that should tell you. | Feb 28 22:13 |
| schestowitz__ | I stay at the sidelines for now | Feb 28 22:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So far they don't think there is a variant that has changed enough to reduce protection significantly, from the mRNA vaccines we have. | Feb 28 22:13 |
| schestowitz__ | the "jab" became like a lifelong drug to some | Feb 28 22:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That may continue, or it may not. | Feb 28 22:13 |
| schestowitz__ | and that's when the body can develop side effect or dependence | Feb 28 22:13 |
| schestowitz__ | they marketed those as a one-off | Feb 28 22:13 |
| schestowitz__ | and the first jab is apparently symbolic for vaiagracompany | Feb 28 22:14 |
| schestowitz__ | SUPER-sleazy company | Feb 28 22:14 |
| schestowitz__ | look at their history | Feb 28 22:14 |
| schestowitz__ | not wikipedia | Feb 28 22:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a crapshoot as to whether the virus mutates enough to evade or we need boosters every couple years or something. | Feb 28 22:14 |
| schestowitz__ | they probably already pay PR firms to park on their online "reputation" | Feb 28 22:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Most big companies do that. | Feb 28 22:14 |
| schestowitz__ | my dad calls them the LEAST credible pharma company | Feb 28 22:14 |
| schestowitz__ | but anyway, all this is off topic | Feb 28 22:15 |
| schestowitz__ | let's talk Intel and tech again | Feb 28 22:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pfizer didn't even create it. It was that German company BioNTech. | Feb 28 22:15 |
| schestowitz__ | it's 3 | Feb 28 22:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pfizer is basically the Thomson MP3 licensing program of the Coronavirus vaccine. | Feb 28 22:15 |
| schestowitz__ | the brands | Feb 28 22:15 |
| schestowitz__ | manufacturing and branding... not the same | Feb 28 22:15 |
| schestowitz__ | Maybe they can hire Michelle Pfizer to do ads | Feb 28 22:16 |
| schestowitz__ | it's like perfumes | Feb 28 22:16 |
| schestowitz__ | they stick celebs' names on them | Feb 28 22:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I asked my dad what Thomson's relationship to MP3 was and he said not much. FhG just didn't want to deal with the legal system in the US. | Feb 28 22:16 |
| schestowitz__ | because you cannot enter a store and judge smells | Feb 28 22:16 |
| schestowitz__ | so you go by bottle shapes | Feb 28 22:16 |
| schestowitz__ | names | Feb 28 22:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they took a cut and let Thomson threaten people and take the money and stuff. | Feb 28 22:16 |
| schestowitz__ | celebs | Feb 28 22:16 |
| schestowitz__ | company names | Feb 28 22:16 |
| schestowitz__ | and the "stands" they set up | Feb 28 22:17 |
| schestowitz__ | then you smell just a few | Feb 28 22:17 |
| schestowitz__ | same for pharma companies | Feb 28 22:17 |
| schestowitz__ | Pfizer said 90% effective | Feb 28 22:17 |
| schestowitz__ | then another company said 94% | Feb 28 22:17 |
| schestowitz__ | then suddenly Pfizer says 95% | Feb 28 22:17 |
| schestowitz__ | lies for sales, obviously | Feb 28 22:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Israeli government made their own assesment. | Feb 28 22:17 |
| schestowitz__ | the 90% number too was obviously a lie | Feb 28 22:17 |
| schestowitz__ | Pfizer has shareholders, that's all they're accountable to | Feb 28 22:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They claim the first dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech one is actually more effective than Pfizer reported to the US FDA. | Feb 28 22:18 |
| schestowitz__ | if they say 99% and it turns out to be false, nobody will punish them | Feb 28 22:18 |
| schestowitz__ | like BP oil spill, only less | Feb 28 22:18 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: no, the israelu regime is correct | Feb 28 22:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It actually wouldn't surprise me at all if Pfizer underreported the efficacy, schestowitz__ | Feb 28 22:18 |
| schestowitz__ | corrupt | Feb 28 22:18 |
| schestowitz__ | not correct | Feb 28 22:18 |
| schestowitz__ | it signed a secret deal with the sleazeball who runs Pfizer | Feb 28 22:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They know nobody is going to settle for 54% from one dose, but that the government would accept 80%. | Feb 28 22:18 |
| schestowitz__ | secret for 30 years | Feb 28 22:18 |
| schestowitz__ | until the people who signed it are all dead | Feb 28 22:19 |
| schestowitz__ | now Pfizer calls the country a "lab" | Feb 28 22:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they say 54% so the government goes okay everyone needs two doses. | Feb 28 22:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah? | Feb 28 22:19 |
| schestowitz__ | and impose it on "lab rats" (I supposed it's implied from their own wording) | Feb 28 22:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Corruption via cutting down their own product efficacy. | Feb 28 22:19 |
| schestowitz__ | in exchange for discounts the Crime Minister needs to prouce and disseminate Pfizer propaganda | Feb 28 22:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Israel has almost the highest infection rate | Feb 28 22:19 |
| schestowitz__ | almost 1 in 20 | Feb 28 22:19 |
| schestowitz__ | became one in 12 I think | Feb 28 22:20 |
| schestowitz__ | worse than UK! | Feb 28 22:20 |
| schestowitz__ | and they probably fake other aspects | Feb 28 22:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then all of these people get a second jab so that the protection goes from 80% to 95% or whatever, and it might provoke nasty side effects that may not actually be worth the second jab. | Feb 28 22:20 |
| schestowitz__ | UK tested far more per capita | Feb 28 22:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But Pfizer racks up more sales. | Feb 28 22:20 |
| schestowitz__ | there are also possible longterm harms | Feb 28 22:20 |
| schestowitz__ | the 90% figure doesn't count things like these | Feb 28 22:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This reminds me of "Windows Anytime Upgrade", schestowitz__ | Feb 28 22:21 |
| schestowitz__ | vaccines are good, Pfizer is not | Feb 28 22:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft trumpeted this as a feature, you know, in Vista. | Feb 28 22:21 |
| schestowitz__ | and if you trust those sleazeball and secret deal, good luck | Feb 28 22:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You get stuck with Home Basic but you need Professional? | Feb 28 22:21 |
| schestowitz__ | they treat it like they signed some uranium production deal | Feb 28 22:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pay twice! | Feb 28 22:21 |
| schestowitz__ | 30 years | Feb 28 22:21 |
| schestowitz__ | "national security" | Feb 28 22:21 |
| schestowitz__ | for a business deal | Feb 28 22:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You don't even get a discount for already having the base version. | Feb 28 22:21 |
| schestowitz__ | it's bill doing in vaccines what he did with windows | Feb 28 22:22 |
| schestowitz__ | you don't buy windows | Feb 28 22:22 |
| schestowitz__ | you rent a version f it | Feb 28 22:22 |
| schestowitz__ | then you pay again for the next...and the next | Feb 28 22:22 |
| schestowitz__ | and they force you to upgrade (pay again) of lose your sh*t | Feb 28 22:22 |
| schestowitz__ | he saw similar potential in other sector | Feb 28 22:22 |
| schestowitz__ | "Repeat clients" | Feb 28 22:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The versioning lately is unnecessary and stupid and arbitrary. | Feb 28 22:22 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/goldman-asks-is-curing-patients-a-sustainable-business-model.html | Feb 28 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Goldman asks: 'Is curing patients a sustainable business model?' | Feb 28 22:23 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | There haven't been major features anyone has cared about that couldn't have been a service pack update to Windows 7. | Feb 28 22:23 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: I will join the vaccine treatment when they reach version 10 Ultimate Edition | Feb 28 22:23 |
| schestowitz__ | and it's their final version | Feb 28 22:23 |
| schestowitz__ | on the "clown" | Feb 28 22:23 |
| schestowitz__ | with "smart" and all | Feb 28 22:23 |
| schestowitz__ | *vaccine treadmill I mean | Feb 28 22:23 |
| schestowitz__ | when we know what does what and if it's effective | Feb 28 22:24 |
| schestowitz__ | in the long run | Feb 28 22:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You're not going to hold out for Vaccine 365? | Feb 28 22:24 |
| schestowitz__ | no! | Feb 28 22:24 |
| schestowitz__ | It has downtime | Feb 28 22:24 |
| schestowitz__ | for 5 days | Feb 28 22:24 |
| schestowitz__ | you stay in bed after each vaccine | Feb 28 22:24 |
| schestowitz__ | so 360 | Feb 28 22:24 |
| schestowitz__ | Vaccine360(TM) | Feb 28 22:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My first one wasn't so bad, really. | Feb 28 22:24 |
| schestowitz__ | with OneCare | Feb 28 22:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Kind of makes me think I did manage to avoid COVID so far. | Feb 28 22:25 |
| schestowitz__ | Because they're a bunch of OneCares | Feb 28 22:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because they say if you had COVID and then you get the vaccine, watch out. | Feb 28 22:25 |
| schestowitz__ | you need to test first | Feb 28 22:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's exactly what happened to mom's boss. | Feb 28 22:25 |
| schestowitz__ | it can harm people who already had it | Feb 28 22:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She had COVID and then got the vaccine series from Moderna. | Feb 28 22:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It really REALLY kicked her ass, both times. | Feb 28 22:25 |
| schestowitz__ | also, for travel, test people | Feb 28 22:25 |
| schestowitz__ | this vaccine thing is a joke | Feb 28 22:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She was off sick for 3 days after each dose. | Feb 28 22:25 |
| schestowitz__ | you can be vaccinated and still be a carrier | Feb 28 22:25 |
| schestowitz__ | so that passport BS of Gates and Mill is a farce | Feb 28 22:25 |
| schestowitz__ | you have infected people entered into a plane | Feb 28 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's probably best to get the "longterm antibody" test before you decide on the vaccine. | Feb 28 22:26 |
| schestowitz__ | because of some "apps" or piece of paper | Feb 28 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And then proceed if the longterm antibody test is negative. | Feb 28 22:26 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: those are not accurate | Feb 28 22:26 |
| schestowitz__ | a friend of mine thought he had it last year | Feb 28 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you already have antibodies from natural infection, there's no point getting the vaccine right away. | Feb 28 22:26 |
| schestowitz__ | they could not detect antibodies thouygh | Feb 28 22:26 |
| schestowitz__ | he's a professor in this field | Feb 28 22:26 |
| schestowitz__ | and doubts it's a definite assessment | Feb 28 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I got walloped with something last March and so did Mandy. | Feb 28 22:27 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe you had it | Feb 28 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I took a COVID longterm antibody test on May 26th and it was negative. | Feb 28 22:27 |
| schestowitz__ | 2 months later.. | Feb 28 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Eh, I don't think it went on long enough to be COVID. | Feb 28 22:27 |
| schestowitz__ | so maybe OK | Feb 28 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Only had symptoms for like 4 days. | Feb 28 22:27 |
| schestowitz__ | anyway, back on topic | Feb 28 22:27 |
| schestowitz__ | laters | Feb 28 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, 2 months later you should have the antibody type it's testing for. | Feb 28 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not testing for current infection. | Feb 28 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz__ "and doubts it's a definite asses"> Every test that involves a lab has mistakes. | Feb 28 22:29 |
| techrights-bot | Dear WEF, the bigger attack is by the elites you front for, plundering the whole world blind while you blame your scapegoat du jour (is it still Russia or just China now?) https://linuxreviews.org/The_World_Economic_Forum_Warns_That_2021_Could_Be_The_Year_Of_The_CyberAttacks | Feb 28 22:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxreviews.org | The World Economic Forum Warns That 2021 Could Be The Year Of The CyberAttacks - LinuxReviews | Feb 28 22:30 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | People are pissed that prisoners are getting COVID vaccines. | Feb 28 22:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So what I'm getting here is "I'd never put that in my body, and how dare you vaccinate a prisoner!". | Feb 28 22:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't get this, because many people claim that they're angry that there's no death sentence in Illinois, and claim (without evidence) that COVID vaccines "cause cancer" because everything they don't understand causes cancer, and they're mad that the state is giving an inmate who they say should have been executed "cancer"? | Feb 28 22:32 |
| techrights-bot | "As we’ve been migrating our servers from CentOS 6 to SpearlineOS, one of the problems we’ve hit has been the out-of-tree modules don’t compile against the EL8 kernels that we use as the base for SpearlineOS." https://www.jdieter.net/posts/2021/02/28/wanpipe-and-dahdi-copr-for-el8/ | Feb 28 22:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jdieter.net | WANPIPE and DAHDI COPR for EL8 | Feb 28 22:32 | |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: back to tech now, please? | Feb 28 22:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ah yeah. | Feb 28 22:34 |
| schestowitz__ | This 'causes cancer' thign sounds like a straw man | Feb 28 22:34 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe partly fictional | Feb 28 22:34 |
| schestowitz__ | like claims about gates | Feb 28 22:34 |
| schestowitz__ | and covid | Feb 28 22:34 |
| schestowitz__ | or 5g | Feb 28 22:34 |
| schestowitz__ | "Causing covid" | Feb 28 22:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's really hard to standardize on anything longterm and count on it being there. | Feb 28 22:34 |
| schestowitz__ | not cancer | Feb 28 22:34 |
| schestowitz__ | apparently we're meant to think 5g sceptics think that radio spreads a virus | Feb 28 22:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mandriva went bankrupt. IBM took over Red Hat and corrupted it and shut down CentOS. | Feb 28 22:35 |
| schestowitz__ | and I suspect media amplifies this lunacy | Feb 28 22:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Canonical is a Microsoft thrall that keeps praising and advertising WSL. | Feb 28 22:35 |
| schestowitz__ | it fits the stigma of critic="crazy" | Feb 28 22:35 |
| schestowitz__ | in twitter, suggesting gates profits from vaccine patents must be seen as "qanon" something | Feb 28 22:35 |
| schestowitz__ | I saw some WSL spam today | Feb 28 22:36 |
| schestowitz__ | [20:51] <techrights-bot> Shame on #InfoQ posting #microsoft spam and #googleboming the word #linux to promote an attack on it, #WSL , which almost nobody uses http://techrights.org/2020/05/06/wsl2-usage-numbers/ | Feb 28 22:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Only About 150,000 People Worldwide Use WSL2 (Windows Subsystem for Linux) | Techrights | Feb 28 22:36 | |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: it's always like that | Feb 28 22:36 |
| schestowitz__ | big companies use resources while they still have them | Feb 28 22:36 |
| schestowitz__ | IBM, Microsoft | Feb 28 22:36 |
| schestowitz__ | moving downwards | Feb 28 22:36 |
| *kupi (uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qxtkrwfdkyjvofwt) has joined #techrights | Feb 28 22:36 | |
| schestowitz__ | trying to take everything else down with them | Feb 28 22:36 |
| schestowitz__ | so we dance around and job on to something else | Feb 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | like other distros and communities | Feb 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | Canonical lost almost all the uBuntu community | Feb 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | the council was just a symbolic act | Feb 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | as if there's still a community left to lead | Feb 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | I wonder if the Mint community is not bigger than Ubuntu's | Feb 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | Ubuntu user =! community | Feb 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | they cannot shut us all down | Feb 28 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | too many of us | Feb 28 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | and IBM now faces tons of bad PR for their history of ruthless shit | Feb 28 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | so they pretend to be fighters for justice, just like mjg59 does | Feb 28 22:38 |
| psydroid | most of the Ubuntu language channels here on Freenode are dead | Feb 28 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | it's a thinly-vailed PR facade | Feb 28 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | and they know it | Feb 28 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | #veiled | Feb 28 22:39 |
| psydroid | a decade ago they were vibrant | Feb 28 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | they sent PR people to contact me in person | Feb 28 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | psydroid: IBM was worth more thaN MSFT in Wall Street one decade ago | Feb 28 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | around 2011 | Feb 28 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | they were valued higher than any other tech company I assume | Feb 28 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | but they're all ponzi scheme | Feb 28 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | tesla and apple etc. are not worth what wall street says | Feb 28 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | it's a scam | Feb 28 22:40 |
| schestowitz__ | fictional economy of speculations | Feb 28 22:40 |
| schestowitz__ | and the public pays the price for those false speculations | Feb 28 22:40 |
| schestowitz__ | 2008, 2020... | Feb 28 22:40 |
| schestowitz__ | psydroid: Canonical is still losing money | Feb 28 22:43 |
| schestowitz__ | last I checked | Feb 28 22:43 |
| schestowitz__ | they probably count on some bigger firm buying them | Feb 28 22:44 |
| schestowitz__ | HP? VMware? Microsoft? Antitrust? | Feb 28 22:44 |
| schestowitz__ | What's antitrust anyway? | Feb 28 22:44 |
| schestowitz__ | When Azure launched Shuttleworth called it "exciting" IIRC | Feb 28 22:44 |
| schestowitz__ | saw it as $ opportunity for his flailing business | Feb 28 22:45 |
| schestowitz__ | Azure turned out to be a failure, not exciting | Feb 28 22:45 |
| schestowitz__ | losses and layoffs | Feb 28 22:45 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe AWS is the only one making money in this area | Feb 28 22:45 |
| schestowitz__ | Google loses LOADS of billions in that area | Feb 28 22:45 |
| schestowitz__ | Microsoft does not even report Azure numbers | Feb 28 22:46 |
| schestowitz__ | it reports "cloud" | Feb 28 22:46 |
| schestowitz__ | and then calls everything "cloud" | Feb 28 22:46 |
| schestowitz__ | even what it cannibalises | Feb 28 22:46 |
| schestowitz__ | anything to fake "growth" and "prospects" | Feb 28 22:47 |
| psydroid | at this point I think everything that was good in Ubuntu has been integrated in Debian, so maybe we will see major migrations to the (also in various ways flawed) parent distribution | Feb 28 22:47 |
| techrights-bot | No, @BrianFagioli is lying. This headline is false and contradicted by what the body of the article says. Unnecessary clickbait. Read the original from Linux Mint's blog. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148233#comment-28451 | Feb 28 22:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint Monthly News – February 2021 | Tux Machines | Feb 28 22:51 | |
| techrights-bot | When you work for #betanews you provoke people to click and then sell them SPAM: http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/news-as-spam/ http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/pure-spam-as-news/ | Feb 28 22:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Different Types of Spammy ‘Articles’ and ‘Reviews’ Which Have Killed ‘Professional Journalism’ (Nowadays Mostly SPAM) | Techrights | Feb 28 22:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Lot of ‘Linux’ News is Nowadays Just Spam | Techrights | Feb 28 22:53 | |
| techrights-bot | "Brian Fagioli, Published 1 week ago": "Linux Mint users are surprisingly irresponsible regarding updates" Get insulted, click here, read my spammy lies. ttp://techrights.org/2020/10/18/news-as-spam/ http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/pure-spam-as-news/ | Feb 28 22:53 |
| mjg59 | schestowitz__: What makes you think I'm "pretending" to "fight for justice"? | Feb 28 22:55 |
| schestowitz__ | seeing what you did | Feb 28 22:55 |
| schestowitz__ | actions | Feb 28 22:55 |
| schestowitz__ | not words | Feb 28 22:55 |
| schestowitz__ | inc. the attacks on some people who did a lot | Feb 28 22:55 |
| schestowitz__ | RMS, LT, others... | Feb 28 22:55 |
| schestowitz__ | superficial "token" activism is not activism | Feb 28 22:56 |
| schestowitz__ | it's like Billy G pretending to be "green" | Feb 28 22:56 |
| schestowitz__ | some k00ky reddits today https://www.reddit.com/r/SatanicRitualAbuse/comments/luc425/bill_gates_engineer_was_arrested_for_child/ | Feb 28 22:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Bill Gates' engineer was arrested for child pornography : SatanicRitualAbuse | Feb 28 22:59 | |
| schestowitz__ | some of them in those "reddit" BS social control media give a bad name to the original | Feb 28 22:59 |
| schestowitz__ | anyway, at least they impede the media distractions | Feb 28 22:59 |
| schestowitz__ | which may or may not be coordinated to pollute the signal | Feb 28 22:59 |
| mjg59 | Why should doing a lot be sufficient to shield someone from criticism? | Feb 28 23:01 |
| techrights-bot | Meet The Lightweight PC And Mac OS You Probably Didn’t Know About • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148250 •●• Sadly it is infected by #microsoft (secret deal apparently), but alternatives do exist http://techrights.org/2021/02/18/raspberry-pi-breaks-up-with-free-software-community/ | Feb 28 23:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Meet The Lightweight PC And Mac OS You Probably Didn’t Know About | Tux Machines | Feb 28 23:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Raspberry Pi Reaffirms Its Commitment to Microsoft (as Trojan Horse Inside Classrooms) and Abandons the Free Software Community | Techrights | Feb 28 23:02 | |
| mjg59 | I literally flew to DC to encourage congressional representatives to support a bill that would make it illegal to force workers into arbitration, and helped convince a Republican representative to sign onto it. Not sure how that counts as pretending. | Feb 28 23:06 |
| techrights-bot | Jamie McClelland: From #openbox to #sway • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148251 •●• #wayland and #ibm breaking lots of things. Got to keep those community ("COMMIE!") distros hopping and in constant disarray.. | Feb 28 23:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Jamie McClelland: From openbox to sway | Tux Machines | Feb 28 23:07 | |
| schestowitz__ | mjg59: you disrupted projects | Feb 28 23:08 |
| schestowitz__ | and you promoted fake security | Feb 28 23:08 |
| schestowitz__ | like microsoft shills who promoted ooxml | Feb 28 23:08 |
| schestowitz__ | concern-trolling linux (kernel) and urging to fork it is revealing of your agenda | Feb 28 23:09 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe it needs to be forked | Feb 28 23:09 |
| schestowitz__ | but not for those reasons | Feb 28 23:09 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe to remove crap like 'secure' boot | Feb 28 23:09 |
| mjg59 | schestowitz__: I didn't fork it | Feb 28 23:09 |
| schestowitz__ | and all that DRM stuff | Feb 28 23:09 |
| mjg59 | Or urge that someone do so | Feb 28 23:09 |
| schestowitz__ | mjg59: you tried to | Feb 28 23:10 |
| mjg59 | I worked in my own space for a while rather than bothering to try to upstream anything | Feb 28 23:10 |
| schestowitz__ | you even used a proprietary platform to try to enlist deserters | Feb 28 23:10 |
| schestowitz__ | a platform Microsoft now owns and controls | Feb 28 23:10 |
| mjg59 | With the goal that anyone who wanted to upstream that work was welcome to | Feb 28 23:10 |
| schestowitz__ | you tried to fork | Feb 28 23:10 |
| schestowitz__ | let me show yoy | Feb 28 23:10 |
| schestowitz__ | you forgot what you had done | Feb 28 23:10 |
| schestowitz__ | it's ok, you are over 40 | Feb 28 23:10 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe a senior moment | Feb 28 23:10 |
| schestowitz__ | hang on | Feb 28 23:11 |
| mjg59 | https://www.zdnet.com/article/matthew-garrett-is-not-forking-linux/ | Feb 28 23:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Matthew Garrett is not forking Linux | ZDNet | Feb 28 23:11 | |
| schestowitz__ | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/10/06/1553233/matthew-garrett-forks-the-linux-kernel | Feb 28 23:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.slashdot.org | Matthew Garrett Forks the Linux Kernel - Slashdot | Feb 28 23:12 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://github.com/mjg59/linux | Feb 28 23:12 |
| mjg59 | Me, at the time: I'm not forking Linux | Feb 28 23:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - mjg59/linux: Linux kernel source tree | Feb 28 23:12 | |
| schestowitz__ | there. | Feb 28 23:12 |
| mjg59 | It's like saying that Andrew Morton has forked Linux | Feb 28 23:12 |
| schestowitz__ | "Garrett writes. He has chosen to go his own way, and has forked the Linux kernel and added patches that implement a BSD-style securelevel interface." | Feb 28 23:13 |
| mjg59 | You're free to look at what I actually said at the time, rather than what someone else thought I said | Feb 28 23:13 |
| mjg59 | But, again, it's unclear to me why you think someone who's done a lot shouldn't be criticised | Feb 28 23:14 |
| schestowitz__ | https://news.softpedia.com/news/matthew-garrett-leaves-linux-kernel-and-forks-it-493867.shtml | Feb 28 23:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Matthew Garrett Leaves Linux Kernel and Forks It | Feb 28 23:15 | |
| schestowitz__ | bbl | Feb 28 23:15 |
| schestowitz__ | you failed | Feb 28 23:15 |
| schestowitz__ | you could not get anyone to follow you and some sensitive bad coders | Feb 28 23:15 |
| schestowitz__ | who unlike most devs cannot take criticism from LT | Feb 28 23:15 |
| mjg59 | Again, you're extremely encourages to find somewhere where I actually said that | Feb 28 23:16 |
| mjg59 | Rather than reading inaccurate assumptions about what I was doing | Feb 28 23:16 |
| mjg59 | Or do you trust journalists now? | Feb 28 23:16 |
| schestowitz__ | you put linux on shitehub and changed it on there | Feb 28 23:18 |
| schestowitz__ | derivative work | Feb 28 23:19 |
| mjg59 | Sure | Feb 28 23:20 |
| mjg59 | Like many people do | Feb 28 23:20 |
| schestowitz__ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_(software_development) | Feb 28 23:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Fork (software development) - Wikipedia | Feb 28 23:20 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 28 23:20 |
| schestowitz__ | A timeline chart of how Linux distributions have forked. | Feb 28 23:20 |
| schestowitz__ | In software engineering, a project fork happens when developers take a copy of source code from one software package and start independent development on it, creating a distinct and separate piece of software. | Feb 28 23:20 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 28 23:20 |
| schestowitz__ | you forked it | Feb 28 23:20 |
| schestowitz__ | for yourself maybe | Feb 28 23:20 |
| schestowitz__ | branched, forked | Feb 28 23:20 |
| mjg59 | Is every repo on https://git.kernel.org/ a fork? | Feb 28 23:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | Kernel.org git repositories | Feb 28 23:20 | |
| schestowitz__ | so you did not actually leave kernel development | Feb 28 23:20 |
| schestowitz__ | you just had a go at the code on your own | Feb 28 23:20 |
| schestowitz__ | kernel.org = linux | Feb 28 23:21 |
| mjg59 | So if I'd done exactly the same thing but maintained it on kernel.org, it wouldn't have been a fork? | Feb 28 23:21 |
| schestowitz__ | outside it, if extended, if can be a fork unless merged in | Feb 28 23:21 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe you need me to explain to you how branches and forks work | Feb 28 23:21 |
| schestowitz__ | google too did this | Feb 28 23:21 |
| schestowitz__ | but you defended Google so hard | Feb 28 23:21 |
| schestowitz__ | eventually they merged in | Feb 28 23:21 |
| schestowitz__ | after years | Feb 28 23:22 |
| schestowitz__ | anyway | Feb 28 23:22 |
| mjg59 | Yeah, me, notable defender of Google's approach to Android kernel development | Feb 28 23:22 |
| mjg59 | I was publicly criticising it in 2008 | Feb 28 23:22 |
| mjg59 | Before the first Android hardware had shipped | Feb 28 23:22 |
| mjg59 | But, again, why is the fact that someone's done a lot something that means they shouldn't be criticised? | Feb 28 23:23 |
| schestowitz__ | you can criticise him for many things | Feb 28 23:24 |
| schestowitz__ | make sure it sticks | Feb 28 23:24 |
| schestowitz__ | because people were not on your side | Feb 28 23:24 |
| schestowitz__ | except linux-hostile media | Feb 28 23:24 |
| schestowitz__ | actual developers backed LT | Feb 28 23:24 |
| techrights-bot | Let's pretend that products don't matter anymore, only #patents do. When you profit from #blackmail and #litigation it's easy to think #patent #law exists in a vacuum https://dallasinnovates.com/toyota-motor-north-america-continues-to-lead-in-rd-patents-among-automakers/ | Feb 28 23:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dallasinnovates.com | Toyota Motor North America Continues To Lead in R&D Patents Among Automakers » Dallas Innovates | Feb 28 23:26 | |
| techrights-bot | #ibm continues to fund and back the most aggressive and overzealous #patent front groups, inc. IPO, to also lobby for #swpats IBM just CANNOT do this AND ALSO support GNU/Linux. It's either this or that... | Feb 28 23:27 |
| mjg59 | Ok, so you believe that my criticism was genuine, but ineffectual | Feb 28 23:28 |
| mjg59 | Fine | Feb 28 23:28 |
| mjg59 | How does that indicate that I'm "pretending" to "fight for justice"? | Feb 28 23:28 |
| techrights-bot | #espionage firm (stealing data) is finally sued... but over #swpats rather than its real crimes https://lawstreetmedia.com/tech/slack-sued-for-infringement-of-instant-messaging-related-patents/ see http://techrights.org/2019/07/20/slack-is-dead/ | Feb 28 23:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lawstreetmedia.com | Slack Sued for Infringement of Instant Messaging Related Patents - Tech | Feb 28 23:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Slack Committed a Very Major Crime That Can Cost Many Billions If Not Trillions in Damages for Years to Come | Techrights | Feb 28 23:28 | |
| techrights-bot | #swpats again. They're likely worse than some of those dodgy companies they're used again, so let's hope that the underlying #patents perish in court or #ptab https://lawstreetmedia.com/tech/apple-sued-for-infringement-of-biometric-technology-patents-via-face-id-feature/ | Feb 28 23:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lawstreetmedia.com | Apple Sued for Infringement of Biometric Technology Patents via Face ID Feature - Tech | Feb 28 23:30 | |
| techrights-bot | "Intellectual property is intangible personal property" No, it's not. Neither legally nor technically. #law firms spreading sheer, pure, unadulterated #propaganda again You need to lie to pass law and bar exam https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/can-you-protect-an-idea-5093812/ | Feb 28 23:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Can You Protect An Idea? | Weintraub Tobin - JDSupra | Feb 28 23:32 | |
| techrights-bot | "I find that bank liquidity creation decreases technological innovation, measured by patent-based criteria." Since when are #patents a measure of actual innovation? Baloney. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3754386 | Feb 28 23:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-papers.ssrn.com | Bank Liquidity Creation and Technological Innovation by Sara Yasar :: SSRN | Feb 28 23:33 | |
| techrights-bot | Killing people with (and for) #patent #monopolies https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3781826 | Feb 28 23:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-papers.ssrn.com | The Humira Patent Thicket and the Noerr-Pennington Doctrine by Ryan Knox, Gregory Curfman :: SSRN | Feb 28 23:35 | |
| techrights-bot | #Cambalache https://blogs.gnome.org/xjuan/2021/02/28/cambalache/ #gnome #gnu #linux #programming | Feb 28 23:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org | Cambalache… | Juan Pablo's Blog | Feb 28 23:41 | |
| techrights-bot | "Next we go east to Hong Kong. Under British influence Hong Kong practiced left-hand trafic. And this has been kept also after 1997. Thus on the borders to mainland China contraptions like these can be seen to facilitate switching sides..." http://ml4711.blogspot.com/2021/02/excursions-driving-on-wrong-side.html | Feb 28 23:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ml4711.blogspot.com | My geek stuff blog: Excursions: Driving on the wrong side | Feb 28 23:43 | |
| techrights-bot | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148252 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 23:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Feb 28 23:47 | |
| techrights-bot | Roman Gilg: Curious Child • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148253 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #kde #KWinFT | Feb 28 23:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Roman Gilg: Curious Child | Tux Machines | Feb 28 23:48 | |
| techrights-bot | "Mousepad still lacks all the features other simple text-editors like KWrite have beyond the very basic ability to edit text. There is no syntax high-lighting, there is no spell-checker, you can't select text and make it uppercase or lowercase or much else for that matter." https://linuxreviews.org/Mousepad_0.5.3_Is_Released | Feb 28 23:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxreviews.org | Mousepad 0.5.3 Is Released - LinuxReviews | Feb 28 23:49 | |
| techrights-bot | Arduino Blog - Homebrew Hakko 907 digital soldering station ⇨ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/03/01/homebrew-hakko-907-digital-soldering-station/ •●• #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | Feb 28 23:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Arduino Blog » Homebrew Hakko 907 digital soldering station | Feb 28 23:50 | |
| MinceR | (cat) https://full.pr0gramm.com/2021/02/12/8a2abfb2f51ab5cf.jpg | Feb 28 23:54 |
| techrights-bot | #9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: February 28th, 2021 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148254 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 23:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: February 28th, 2021 | Tux Machines | Feb 28 23:57 | |
| techrights-bot | Databases: #MySQL and #PostgreSQL Technical Manuals (New) • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/148255 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 28 23:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Databases: MySQL and PostgreSQL Technical Manuals (New) | Tux Machines | Feb 28 23:57 | |
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