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[Video] The High Cost of High-Level Tools and High-Level Programming Languages

posted by Roy Schestowitz on May 14, 2024

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HAVING done a great deal of coding, both low- and high-level stuff, I think I can comment on various languages and frameworks. I've worked with plenty. Nowadays when I need a simple program I write something in Bash because Java and C take longer (also more lines in total) and are cumbersome to deploy across machines, unless they're all the same (no need to compile different sets of binaries or add modules).

With the general news cycles becoming drearier (everything is slowing down because they don't employ reporters!), and the matter becoming more severe each month, a neophile (lover of news) can allocate more time to programming, aside from taking breaks/naps/workout recess. I myself have taken advantage to write more articles per day, whereas others improve existing programs. There's a whole bunch of us working on the site.

"Looking at some RPi [Raspberry Pi] stuff," an associate told me last week, "it seems like they are somehow getting spread too thinly or otherwise ----ing up. One of my scripts stopped working, it is in part due to some crap from the now Microsoft python3 module handling and in part from the crap that RPi is inflicting. Microsoft is making python too complex to run any more, at least if one intends to maintain the system. If you just set it up and never do any updates whether for security or not then it might stay working."

The dreadful situation at Raspberry Pi Foundation was covered here before. They've had somewhat of a Microsoft infestation and they keep promoting Microsoft's proprietary spyware, probably as part of some secret marketing deal. I myself still use a Raspberry Pi device (we also sold one a couple of months ago), but there's no Microsoft in it. I use it for a whole bunch of tasks and it doesn't take much energy (the monitor does).

The Raspberry Pi situation was discussed internally and I explained that I like Bash because there's no "GET READY FOR BASH [version]!! Rewrite your code!!"

I still use many Bash scripts that I wrote when I was a student. That includes my backup scripts that are about 20 years old. They still work!

Then there's Microsoft...

Microsoft loves to "extend" things.

Microsoft loves to break "old" things.

Microsoft profits when people buy new stuff or the "latest version".

"Python has started doing that within version 3," the associate said. "Then there was the 2->3 change which broke everything. PHP was worse though. However, this crap seems to have started when Microsoft turned its attention to Python3."

I said that every PHP "upgrade" kept me up at night, especially because on shared hosting the customer often gets no choice regarding "upgrades". If there's some new version of it installed, then some your "programs" (piles of PHP) will suddenly break. They won't work anymore. So you can rewrite the code (that is not yours) or try to use an older version of PHP - albeit that's just a temporary, short-term strategy. As I explain in the video, we had this issue with WordPress.

The associate recalled: "I was on Debian at work at that time. Several PHP problems in a row broke code. Then there was the matter of having half- or quarter- completed modules. And among those, even an idiot like myself spotted open security holes. So at one point I cut my losses and refactored the whole project in Perl5. There were just so many started-but-not-ready PHP modules that it seemed the norm. My theory was that PHP was adopted for two reasons. One was the *huge* smear campaign run by Microsoft online and via whispers. Another was that many developers 'compromised' by allowing management to force them onto NT (e.g. XP) such that it was a profound PITA to get anything installed and the monolithic nature of PHP meant the administrative fight to get a package installed only had to occur once. Whereas with Perl, it happened every time you needed to add another module to the project. The loss of productivity that Microsoft has cost the world is probably mid to high triple digit trillions, even not counting malware."

More than 20 years ago I learned to work with CPAN, as I had adopted some Perl programs that would be useful for years to come. Having said that, the web of modules would complicate installation and, unlike Bash, the syntax was less comprehensible.

Windows and Microsoft-style teaching remain a barrier to simple programming. Microsoft has made things unnecessarily complex unless one does everything the "Microsoft way". Forget about "WAMP" or "LAMP" with Windows. That would not work well and not be easy to set up, either. "Unless you were on a GNU/Linux or *BSD system," the associate said, "in which case adding Perl modules was trivial."

"But as mentioned, many devs were maneuvered into 'accepting' NT instead of a functional operating system. When I considered whether to use Debian or NT on the desktop at work, the boss and one worker used NT. The boss I could foretell was only going to be around for a few months more. I spoke with the worker using NT, but though he sung the praises of NT he could not hide the fact that he did *all* his work via PuTTY on the Solaris and Linux boxes."

"Truth was that NT could do *far* less than GNU/Linux (i.e. Debian) at the time including e-mail and web browsers, but most of all anything related to either software development or web development. The rest of the almost two dozen were already settled in Debian from the start. So the choice was a no-brainer. Use of W95, W98, and NT at home made sure that I knew the real deal and that Windows was an unviable system for any work-related activities."

22 years ago I wanted to compile a game that I had developed (on GNU/Linux, for GNU/Linux) for Windows XP because many people used Windows in those days. It took hours to compile it and the resultant binary was very inefficient, with a performance about 5 times worse on comparable if not identical hardware. That was in C and compiling it for Windows meant (at least back then) grabbing some Windows machine at the lab, then running Visual Studio.

That experience alone taught me never to bother with Windows, not even to compile anything for it. I made an installer for the game, but as new versions of Windows came out it was no longer "compatible".

So there are two lessons here; first, don't bother with Windows (waste of time) and second, where/if possible, keep programs/games very small/compact, written using universal frameworks that don't change much. My games (heavily but not strictly) used OpenGL, which meant some function calls would become obsolete, at one point deprecated entirely.

Black and White Colobus Monkey at wildlife reserve

From what I can gather (we covered it last week), programming is barely taught anymore; some colleges teach high-level stuff like JavaScript and this results in bad practices, bloat, and latency (e.g. requiring you to fetch megabytes of JavaScript just to render a very simple page). The high cost of such practices manifests itself also in the security sense. Grabbing programs and modules from many arbitrary domains (some of which may be compromised/offline) is deeply atrocious as a paradigm. Some sites or "webapps" do this with fonts, too.

Worse yet, the Mono pushers wanted us to rely on the company that back-doors virtually everything for the NSA. Instead of code monkeys we'd have a bunch of Microsoft drones and "consumers".

Thankfully Mono failed.

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