| tessier_ | Thanks, glad you liked them | Jan 08 00:04 |
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| tessier_ | Regarding environment: The air quality in Saigon is terrible. Especially when you are driving around. You are out in the open. The motorbikes have no emission controls. A lot of them are really old. The city buses have the exhaust pipes down low and you are on your bike two feet from it and it is blowing exhaust straight into your mouth. Don't get stuck behind a bus. It really sucks. | Jan 08 00:06 |
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| tessier_ | You see a lot of people on motorbikes wearing masks there. It doesn't protect you from CO2 but it might offer some small protection against particulates, I don't know. | Jan 08 00:06 |
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| tessier_ | But a lot of people wear them. Even Kevin. Look at the pics of him on his bike. He wears a mask. | Jan 08 00:06 |
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| twitter | Most motorbikes have no emission controls. Honda scooters of 90cc and less don't need them. 2 stroke engines are nasty but they burn so little fuel they are not a big deal. Trucks suck, even here. I was in Houston last summer - the air was orange brown and was so heavy you could not see downtown from the interstates. | Jan 08 02:12 |
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| twitter | Part of the problem was oil plants all around. It covered my car with oily grime. | Jan 08 02:13 |
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| NeonF|oss | whats the linux eqivelent of this? http://www.blogpirate.org/2009/01/07/evec | Jan 08 02:56 |
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| NeonF|oss | is there one? | Jan 08 02:56 |
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| tessier | NeonFloss: Sounds like Beagle | Jan 08 04:06 |
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| tessier | NeonFloss: Part of Gnome. | Jan 08 04:07 |
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| NeonFloss | thanks | Jan 08 04:07 |
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| NeonFloss | im nub with linux | Jan 08 04:07 |
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| NeonFloss | is ubuntu gnome? | Jan 08 04:07 |
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| tessier | Yes | Jan 08 04:11 |
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| *schestowitz removes ban on *!*@ubuntu/member/wasabi | Jan 08 08:33 |
| schestowitz | Why was there a ban? What is this?????? | Jan 08 08:34 |
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| schestowitz | [H]omer: did you set that up? | Jan 08 08:34 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Jan 08 09:43 |
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| schestowitz | Geekings bearing gifts. | Jan 08 09:44 |
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| schestowitz | Wall Street's Collapse and the Ownership Society < http://www.counterpunch.org/martens... > | Jan 08 11:54 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.stallman.org/archives/2008-nov-feb.ht... "One of the reasons newspapers hesitated to write about the complex financial derivatives and their dangers was that they feared libel suits for the slightest mistake." | Jan 08 11:57 |
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| schestowitz | Homes with No People, People with No Homes < http://www.commondreams.org/headline/20... > | Jan 08 11:58 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.counterpunch.org/thie... "Yes, it’s all smoke and mirrors, and everyone who looked already knew that. That isn’t news. The news, as Alan Greenspan said pathetically in front of Congress, was that the moguls and bankers and investment gurus did not act according to their own self interest. They did not just risky things but insanely stupid risky things and thought they could hide from their karma." | Jan 08 12:01 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft executive shoots down Zune Phone rumors -- again < http://www.techflash.com/microsoft/Microso... > | Jan 08 12:04 |
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| Omar87 | Hi all | Jan 08 12:05 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?lts... "Does anyone remember how SCO was convincing the media ( and a lot of other people, corporations, etc) that there were millions of lines of code than Linux stole from Unix? Pamela deserves credit for being a major force in clearing the smokescreen that SCO was hiding behind." | Jan 08 12:06 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?lts... "Or have Eric Raymond, Jamie Boyle, Paul Jones, and Steven-Vaugn Nichols decided FLOSS has won, and no further advocacy is needed?" | Jan 08 12:07 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: How's it going? | Jan 08 12:07 |
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| schestowitz | Pretty OK | Jan 08 12:07 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft is dumping again | Jan 08 12:08 |
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| schestowitz | It's abusing India (Kerala) too | Jan 08 12:08 |
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| schestowitz | Though we need more evidence. | Jan 08 12:08 |
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| schestowitz | BN's findings were used in the Indian press. | Jan 08 12:08 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uplo... | Jan 08 12:09 |
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| schestowitz | Stansted protesters sentenced to community service amid threat of €£2m damages claim < http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/... > | Jan 08 12:24 |
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| schestowitz | "A group of climate change protesters who brought Stansted airport to a standstill after occupying a taxiway in December were sentenced yesterday, as it emerged that they and others who joined them face the threat of being sued for more than €£2m in damages." | Jan 08 12:24 |
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| schestowitz | Lenovo to Lay off 2,500 Staff, Cut Management Pay < http://www.pcworld.com/article/156620/l... > | Jan 08 12:33 |
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| schestowitz | EMC to Lay off 2,400 < http://www.pcworld.com/article/156619/... > | Jan 08 12:33 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft nicks another Yahoo exec: Microsoft Hires Head of Yahoo Korea to Run Local Operations < http://www.pcworld.com/article/156642/microsof... > | Jan 08 12:35 |
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| schestowitz | OLPC Aims for Free Laptop, Lays off Staff < http://www.pcworld.com/article/156604/olpc_aims_... > | Jan 08 12:37 |
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| schestowitz | Time to focus on Sugar mostly. | Jan 08 12:37 |
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| schestowitz | Outsourcing Will Flourish During Recession < http://www.pcworld.com/article/156591/out... >. Maybe fairer distribution of wealthy (globally)/ | Jan 08 12:38 |
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| schestowitz | *wealth (globally)? | Jan 08 12:38 |
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| schestowitz | Option for suing Microsoft for AstroTurfing: Posting Negative Reviews Could Get You Sued < http://www.pcworld.com/article/156605/... > | Jan 08 12:39 |
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| ushimitsudoki | Open office vs. Go-OO: http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/... | Jan 08 12:43 |
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| ushimitsudoki | What's up with this fellow Byfield? | Jan 08 12:43 |
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| schestowitz | You don't know him? | Jan 08 12:45 |
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| ushimitsudoki | No, I think this is the first article I have read from him ... at least the first that made me think about commenting | Jan 08 12:46 |
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| ushimitsudoki | maybe i read other stuff and just didn't care enough to check the author | Jan 08 12:46 |
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| schestowitz | OMG | Jan 08 12:46 |
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| schestowitz | He censored my comment! | Jan 08 12:46 |
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| schestowitz | I had a long comment here: http://ostatic.com/blog/a-diatribe-again... | Jan 08 12:46 |
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| schestowitz | He removed at least 2 oe 3 (there were 12 comments, IIRC) | Jan 08 12:47 |
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| ushimitsudoki | ah, then i won't waste my time commenting. I thought he might be genuinely confused or something. | Jan 08 12:47 |
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| schestowitz | ushimitsudoki: search BN for Byfield. There is history there and he also did a hack job on us at Linux.com. | Jan 08 12:47 |
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| ushimitsudoki | ah i see a few there now after searching | Jan 08 12:49 |
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| schestowitz | I probably shound't bother feeding by rebutting | Jan 08 12:49 |
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| schestowitz | But the censorship in OStatic makes me wonder. | Jan 08 12:50 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe it was accidental. | Jan 08 12:50 |
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| ushimitsudoki | well, IMHO there too much "feeding of the trolls" in general | Jan 08 12:50 |
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| schestowitz | He did approves my Enderle comment: http://ostatic.com/blog/desktop-an... | Jan 08 12:50 |
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| schestowitz | I'll just pass in that case. | Jan 08 12:50 |
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| schestowitz | "However, by emphasizing only the Microsoft technologies in Go-OO, the anti-Novell lobby misrepresents the project." | Jan 08 12:51 |
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| schestowitz | He calls us "anti-Novell" | Jan 08 12:51 |
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| schestowitz | "The anti-Novell lobby is right to suggest that Meeks is being disingenuous about Go-OO, but the agenda of its members makes them push their arguments into distortions as serious as Meeks'." | Jan 08 12:52 |
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| schestowitz | Lobby? | Jan 08 12:52 |
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| ushimitsudoki | that's a tricky sentence there | Jan 08 12:53 |
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| ushimitsudoki | lobby is right out | Jan 08 12:53 |
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| schestowitz | How many times in this article does he call it "anti-Novell lobby"? | Jan 08 12:54 |
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| schestowitz | Mind you, he never links to BN. | Jan 08 12:54 |
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| schestowitz | He wants people to just take his word (re: the "anti-Novell lobby" side) | Jan 08 12:54 |
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| ushimitsudoki | but i do like to beat the drum about tightening up the arguments - I wouldn't put it in the same light as he does of course, but more of along the lines of "a woman has to do the same job twice as good as a man" type of thing, if you see where I'm coming from there | Jan 08 12:55 |
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| ushimitsudoki | when you are a minority, you have to watch your step more. it's unfair, but that's the way of things | Jan 08 12:55 |
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| schestowitz | He is so careful not the name the site | Jan 08 12:55 |
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| schestowitz | If he names it, then *Shudders* people might visit it. | Jan 08 12:55 |
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| ushimitsudoki | here is what jumped out at me: "And considering that OOXML is now an ISO standard -- no matter what dirty tricks might have made it one -- the idea that it, at least, could now be used in patent violation cases seems logically inconsistent" | Jan 08 12:55 |
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| MinceR | if only we could lobby against novell | Jan 08 12:55 |
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| ushimitsudoki | how does something being an ISO standard prevent a patent violation? | Jan 08 12:56 |
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| ushimitsudoki | There are licensing terms RAND / RAND-Z / whatever | Jan 08 12:56 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, I saw that re: patents. Utter BS | Jan 08 12:56 |
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| schestowitz | Byfield does not understand patents and the OSP/RAND | Jan 08 12:56 |
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| ushimitsudoki | ISO standard *alone* doesn't prevent anything | Jan 08 12:56 |
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| ushimitsudoki | it's just sloppy | Jan 08 12:56 |
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| schestowitz | But some say he's too vain to allow others to weigh in on these issues. | Jan 08 12:56 |
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| ushimitsudoki | The fear of people to call go-oo a fork is so funny to me | Jan 08 12:57 |
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| ushimitsudoki | it's a fork. get over it | Jan 08 12:57 |
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| ushimitsudoki | forkety fork fork | Jan 08 12:57 |
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| schestowitz | I guess I could references lawyers like Bredan Scott who wrote about the patent issue that remains in MOOX | Jan 08 12:57 |
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| schestowitz | The F word? No! | Jan 08 12:57 |
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| ushimitsudoki | I also like this: "If you spend any time in OOo at all, you are likely to conclude that all major decisions are made by a small circle of Sun developers," | Jan 08 12:59 |
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| ushimitsudoki | isn't every major project driven by an "inner circle" of developers? | Jan 08 12:59 |
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| ushimitsudoki | the buck has to stop somewhere | Jan 08 13:00 |
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| PetoKraus | well... | Jan 08 13:00 |
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| schestowitz | But that won't fit his hypothesis | Jan 08 13:00 |
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| PetoKraus | they should take example from cinelerra | Jan 08 13:00 |
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| *ushimitsudoki listens | Jan 08 13:00 |
| schestowitz | Did Microsoft fork it? :-) | Jan 08 13:00 |
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| schestowitz | j/k | Jan 08 13:00 |
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| PetoKraus | the guy develops it himself, he doesn't care about community work | Jan 08 13:00 |
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| PetoKraus | he just happens to release the source code | Jan 08 13:01 |
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| PetoKraus | so the community picks this "inner circle work" and "improves upon it", and there goes cinelerra-cv | Jan 08 13:01 |
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| PetoKraus | and everyone is happy | Jan 08 13:01 |
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| ushimitsudoki | does he get much grief for that? | Jan 08 13:02 |
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| PetoKraus | grief? | Jan 08 13:02 |
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| ushimitsudoki | like the criticism that sun is getting | Jan 08 13:02 |
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| PetoKraus | well, yes he did | Jan 08 13:02 |
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| PetoKraus | but he explained he developed cinelerra for his company's own use | Jan 08 13:03 |
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| PetoKraus | and he's not interested in making it "bigger and better" as long as he can do his job in it | Jan 08 13:03 |
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| ushimitsudoki | i don't see a problem there | Jan 08 13:03 |
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| PetoKraus | me neither | Jan 08 13:04 |
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| PetoKraus | no one sees | Jan 08 13:04 |
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| ushimitsudoki | sounds like the guy stepped up to make as much of a contribution as he could | Jan 08 13:04 |
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| PetoKraus | *wanted to, i'd say | Jan 08 13:04 |
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| ushimitsudoki | well, "feels comfortable with" how about that? | Jan 08 13:04 |
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| ushimitsudoki | in any case, no problem | Jan 08 13:04 |
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| PetoKraus | i love these people who say "but by reinventing the wheel you waste effort" | Jan 08 13:05 |
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| PetoKraus | mainly because I like to do it as well (i developed my own, albeit crappy, CMS on my page just because I wanted to) | Jan 08 13:06 |
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| ushimitsudoki | i know - absolutely missing the point - it's like saying I really like this one song, I don't understand why the band needs to make another | Jan 08 13:06 |
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| PetoKraus | yeah | Jan 08 13:06 |
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| PetoKraus | you know, instead they should focus and make the song even better! | Jan 08 13:06 |
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| PetoKraus | i see the idea in people's "why do we need another distro/WM/DE/package manager/init system" thing | Jan 08 13:08 |
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| PetoKraus | though it's not like everyone on the earth is paid by them to develop ;) | Jan 08 13:08 |
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| ushimitsudoki | i always say: hey, it's their time to waste. (even so, the number of spin-off distros has gotten a bit ridiculous lately) | Jan 08 13:09 |
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| PetoKraus | yes it is, though most of the people running them are learning | Jan 08 13:10 |
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| PetoKraus | or whatever | Jan 08 13:10 |
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| PetoKraus | this recession in the UK is fantastic | Jan 08 13:10 |
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| PetoKraus | i wanted to buy one camcorder for €270 | Jan 08 13:10 |
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| PetoKraus | i bought two for €£230 with a case :) | Jan 08 13:10 |
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| PetoKraus | and i can still go get several pints of beer to use up all those ~40€£/€ | Jan 08 13:11 |
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| ushimitsudoki | i'm glad it's helping someone - it's a bit rough on me | Jan 08 13:11 |
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| PetoKraus | job? | Jan 08 13:12 |
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| ushimitsudoki | yeah, i'm paid in USD, but live in Japan ... and the yen rate is poop | Jan 08 13:12 |
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| ushimitsudoki | it's like getting a big pay cut | Jan 08 13:12 |
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| PetoKraus | yeah | Jan 08 13:12 |
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| PetoKraus | my friend did a mistake - something similar to your situation - he's on erasmus in paris. He could choose to get his scholarship paid in €£ or €. He chose €£... now he lost 1/3 of his money, basically | Jan 08 13:13 |
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| ushimitsudoki | yup that's how it goes | Jan 08 13:14 |
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| PetoKraus | oh, now i see what you mean | Jan 08 13:14 |
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| PetoKraus | 10% in 3 months | Jan 08 13:15 |
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| ushimitsudoki | that'll get you to start making sure you turn off the lights when leaving the room :) | Jan 08 13:15 |
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| PetoKraus | well we do that anyway | Jan 08 13:15 |
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| PetoKraus | i'm in glasgow | Jan 08 13:15 |
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| PetoKraus | we started heating on 25th of November | Jan 08 13:15 |
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| PetoKraus | we stopped on 12th of December | Jan 08 13:16 |
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| PetoKraus | it's still off | Jan 08 13:16 |
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| PetoKraus | it's 5€°C outside | Jan 08 13:16 |
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| PetoKraus | under zero during night time | Jan 08 13:16 |
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| PetoKraus | students :D | Jan 08 13:16 |
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| PetoKraus | it boils down to - it's better to get thermo-underwear for like a €£10, than pay +€£10 over three months on gas | Jan 08 13:17 |
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| ushimitsudoki | heh too cold | Jan 08 13:17 |
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| PetoKraus | i went home during christmas | Jan 08 13:18 |
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| PetoKraus | the weather in my home country is like -10€°C during nighttime, -3€°C to 0€°C during the day | Jan 08 13:18 |
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| PetoKraus | or was over the christmas period | Jan 08 13:18 |
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| PetoKraus | it's roughly 8 degrees less than in glasgow, though much more frosty due to lower air humidity | Jan 08 13:19 |
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| PetoKraus | i'm okay with that, the problem is - the flats in slovakia are heated to 25€°C | Jan 08 13:19 |
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| PetoKraus | i was dying the first week. I was wandering around the flat just in underwear. | Jan 08 13:19 |
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| PetoKraus | then you get used to overheat inside and freezing outside... | Jan 08 13:19 |
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| PetoKraus | now i have to acclimatise back to even temperatures :D | Jan 08 13:20 |
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| schestowitz | I wrote a very quick rebuttal. | Jan 08 13:20 |
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| PetoKraus | yeah. It's gonna change - Russians stopped the gas (i mean, gaseous gas, not liquid gas) flow | Jan 08 13:20 |
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| schestowitz | I just need to parse through it. | Jan 08 13:20 |
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| PetoKraus | the funny thing is, the network needs like 30 units of gas per day, the reserves can provide only 22 | Jan 08 13:22 |
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| PetoKraus | and there is literally no gas flowing trough the pipes.... | Jan 08 13:22 |
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| PetoKraus | steel factories stopped, automobile factories stopped... Fun times. :D | Jan 08 13:22 |
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| MinceR | PetoKraus: which is your home country? | Jan 08 13:23 |
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| PetoKraus | Slovakia | Jan 08 13:23 |
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| MinceR | i hope the ukrainians and the russians get slapped on the wrist before we (Europe) run out of gas | Jan 08 13:24 |
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| schestowitz | Isn't Slovakia a EU state? | Jan 08 13:26 |
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| schestowitz | Oh oops. | Jan 08 13:26 |
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| PetoKraus | schestowitz: is | Jan 08 13:26 |
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| schestowitz | "Ukrainians".. | Jan 08 13:27 |
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| MinceR | ? | Jan 08 13:27 |
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| schestowitz | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=... | Jan 08 13:28 |
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| schestowitz | Both OSNews and LinuxToday repost old news about OpenGL or mesa. Amazing how one person'a mistake percolates. | Jan 08 13:48 |
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| schestowitz | Google cuts staff < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/285/105... >. MS is next. | Jan 08 13:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/27... "INTEL HAS CONFESSED that it expects its fourth-quarter revenue to drop by 23 per cent" | Jan 08 13:56 |
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| schestowitz | " Vietnamese government mandates Open Source - Kicking out Microsoft " http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/293/10... | Jan 08 13:58 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/... "The biggest losers will be those who only have a mobile phone because they'll continue to pay over the top for 0845 and 0870 calls. Most mobile networks even charge for calls placed to 0800 numbers which are supposed to be 'free'." | Jan 08 13:59 |
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| ushimitsudoki | wow i don't think i understood one sentence in that last article :) | Jan 08 14:00 |
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| schestowitz | There's a ripoff here in the UK | Jan 08 14:00 |
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| schestowitz | Some people's numbers are not just expensive to make calls from (landline) but are also a ripoff to ring. | Jan 08 14:01 |
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| schestowitz | There was a petition on the Web... with many more like it, even against Phorm | Jan 08 14:01 |
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| schestowitz | -Jesus-Jobs loses half a billion in stock value (Apple).. reportedly. | Jan 08 14:02 |
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| schestowitz | [urgent] can anyone extract the text from this: http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/up... | Jan 08 14:31 |
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| PetoKraus | fuuu | Jan 08 14:45 |
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| PetoKraus | i can't sorry | Jan 08 14:46 |
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| PetoKraus | it's totally illegible | Jan 08 14:47 |
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| schestowitz | Even if you focus? | Jan 08 14:47 |
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| PetoKraus | i had it on 200% | Jan 08 14:47 |
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| PetoKraus | i probably could look into it in 3 hours | Jan 08 14:48 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks! :-) | Jan 08 14:48 |
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| ushimitsudoki | i'll work on it | Jan 08 14:54 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks. | Jan 08 14:54 |
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| schestowitz | I have 5 more PDFs about EDGI | Jan 08 14:55 |
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| schestowitz | It'll take lots of work to publish them, but we'll get it done | Jan 08 14:55 |
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| schestowitz | It was nice to see the Indian paper talking about EDGI because BoycottNovell showed it | Jan 08 14:55 |
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| *schestowitz is processing http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/u... | Jan 08 15:08 |
| trmanco | lol | Jan 08 15:09 |
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| trmanco | microsoft like VLC? | Jan 08 15:10 |
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| trmanco | likes* | Jan 08 15:10 |
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| trmanco | they are trying to make applications compatible | Jan 08 15:10 |
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| schestowitz | Where do you see this? | Jan 08 15:10 |
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| schestowitz | I'd like to see. | Jan 08 15:10 |
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| trmanco | http://mailman.videolan.org/pipermail/... | Jan 08 15:11 |
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| trmanco | there you go | Jan 08 15:11 |
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| trmanco | the thing is, vlc has already been reported as "compatible" with 7 | Jan 08 15:12 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: where did you find this? | Jan 08 15:13 |
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| schestowitz | As in, any context? | Jan 08 15:13 |
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| trmanco | I'm just subed to that mailing list | Jan 08 15:13 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks. | Jan 08 15:14 |
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| trmanco | no context | Jan 08 15:14 |
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| schestowitz | I'll post about it | Jan 08 15:14 |
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| trmanco | ok ;) | Jan 08 15:14 |
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| schestowitz | "Windows 7 PC Ecosystem team..." | Jan 08 15:14 |
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| schestowitz | *snigger* | Jan 08 15:14 |
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| schestowitz | Ecosystem = buy a new computer to be 'capable'... you know... the help the ecosystem... (not in the ecology sense) | Jan 08 15:15 |
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| MinceR | to survive | Jan 08 15:15 |
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| MinceR | buy or die :> | Jan 08 15:16 |
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| trmanco | lol | Jan 08 15:18 |
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| ushimitsudoki | schestowitz: i have PX09445 in spreadsheet form. where do you want it? | Jan 08 15:43 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks! | Jan 08 15:43 |
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| schestowitz | mail it to r at schestowitz.com | Jan 08 15:43 |
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| schestowitz | Publish this in your blog as well. We ought to get the word out. Feel free to copy whatever there is in BN. | Jan 08 15:44 |
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| ushimitsudoki | alright it is sent. pls let me know when you get it (or don't) | Jan 08 15:45 |
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| schestowitz | What should I attribute to? | Jan 08 15:47 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe a link to your site? | Jan 08 15:47 |
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| ushimitsudoki | That's fine - no big notice needed | Jan 08 15:47 |
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| schestowitz | Thanks. It's updated now: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/08/micro... | Jan 08 15:52 |
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| PetoKraus | russia pawns | Jan 08 15:55 |
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| PetoKraus | seems so ;) | Jan 08 15:55 |
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| schestowitz | Did you see the YouTube vid? | Jan 08 16:09 |
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| PetoKraus | nae | Jan 08 16:09 |
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| schestowitz | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fzLtF_PxbYw | Jan 08 16:10 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: I wrote about your finding. Do you want to check it? http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/08/wind... | Jan 08 16:33 |
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| trmanco | sure | Jan 08 16:33 |
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| trmanco | cool | Jan 08 16:34 |
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| schestowitz | No typos? | Jan 08 16:34 |
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| schestowitz | I'm paranoid about them. | Jan 08 16:34 |
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| schestowitz | When it comes to BN only... because a lot more people read it than anything else I use. | Jan 08 16:34 |
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| schestowitz | BN server 14697 pages in the past 12 hours (to non-bots) | Jan 08 16:35 |
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| schestowitz | I think we just inherit some GL readers. | Jan 08 16:38 |
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| MinceR | GL? | Jan 08 16:39 |
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| schestowitz | Groklaw. | Jan 08 16:39 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz, I'll check | Jan 08 16:40 |
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| trmanco | no typos | Jan 08 16:41 |
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| MinceR | inherited? what happened to groklaw? | Jan 08 16:42 |
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| schestowitz | No new posts | Jan 08 16:46 |
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| schestowitz | No news picks, either. | Jan 08 16:46 |
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| MinceR | ic | Jan 08 16:47 |
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| MinceR | :( | Jan 08 16:47 |
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| schestowitz | "Again, your links are awesome and now that PJ isnt doing links anymore, even more important for free software supporters." (hours ago) http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/08/india-so... | Jan 08 16:47 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe I'll do an interview to publish in Datamation in response to http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/a... (Byfield piece) | Jan 08 16:50 |
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| schestowitz | Latest Massive Fraud: Satyam Found To Be Swimming Naked < http://techdirt.com/articles/2009... > | Jan 08 16:52 |
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| schestowitz | "Electronic components maker TDK said it was cutting 8,000 jobs worldwide as it announced it expected to make its biggest ever annual loss." < http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/busine... > | Jan 08 16:53 |
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| twitter | I'm not sure about the specifics of cinerella, but it's always best to be clear about copyright up front. | Jan 08 16:53 |
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| twitter | If you are not clear and careful, others can't distribute your work for you. | Jan 08 16:53 |
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| schestowitz | It's just getting started. Many companies are "swimming naked," to borrow the term from Mike Masnick | Jan 08 16:54 |
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| schestowitz | 1990 called BBC... they want their 'news' back: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7817093.stm | Jan 08 16:55 |
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| twitter | If you care enough to share your work, you should care enough to make sure others can use it. | Jan 08 16:55 |
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| schestowitz | Passwords too? Are you talking about Cinerella, still? | Jan 08 16:59 |
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| schestowitz | http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2009/01/05/... open, open, open... what about Freedom, Mitchell? | Jan 08 17:02 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.ph... "OpenOffice, as Firefox, have won a prestigious trademark among non-IT-related office workers. It will take years and many millions to destroy such trademark image. Not even IBM was able to destroy it even with all the money and propaganda trying to convert OO users to Lotus Symphony." | Jan 08 17:07 |
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| schestowitz | Please refer to Novell's fork as "Go-OOXML" to deter against its use | Jan 08 17:07 |
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| schestowitz | Also... Win7 should be called Vista 7. It's inherently the same thing with some tweaks and GUI changes. | Jan 08 17:08 |
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| schestowitz | What4? | Jan 08 17:10 |
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| schestowitz | http://blog.angulosolido.pt/2009/01/integ... | Jan 08 17:10 |
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| schestowitz | LinuxToday links to a sort of advert now...? http://www.multiseatcomputer.be/index.php/en... | Jan 08 17:11 |
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| schestowitz | Nick blogs about OLPC layoffs (open for comments): http://blog.laptop.org/2009/01/07/refo... | Jan 08 17:13 |
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| schestowitz | Novell low-end 'bribes' :-) http://news.opensuse.org/2009/0... | Jan 08 17:15 |
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| schestowitz | Alternate Universe of Macworld News http://www.pcworld.com/articl... "less-than-exciting keynote address at the MacWorld Expo yesterday.." | Jan 08 17:21 |
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| schestowitz | Wow. I've just watched the video here again: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/08/ab... | Jan 08 17:23 |
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| schestowitz | Skip to around minute 7. Steve Jobs says that only Apple and Microsoft exist on the desktop and together they have 100% market share. He pulled the same stunt with his Safari diagram where he pretended Firefox et al no longer exist!! | Jan 08 17:24 |
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| schestowitz | twitter: do you have software that can clip videos? | Jan 08 17:25 |
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| schestowitz | Anyone? | Jan 08 17:25 |
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| twitter | yes | Jan 08 17:26 |
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| twitter | shoot it to me and let me know what you want and when | Jan 08 17:26 |
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| schestowitz | Can you see the video? You can d/l from YouTube. | Jan 08 17:27 |
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| schestowitz | Steve Jobs essentially promotes duopoly with Microsoft on the desktop | Jan 08 17:27 |
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| twitter | yes, I can use clive for YouTube. | Jan 08 17:27 |
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| schestowitz | I want to put this in FP | Jan 08 17:27 |
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| twitter | ah, where is it? | Jan 08 17:28 |
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| schestowitz | [OT] Sacked IT admin sentenced for hacking ex-employer < http://www.theregister.co.uk/... | Jan 08 17:28 |
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| twitter | here's an interesting article on affordable computing http://www.pcworld.com/article/156463/amd... | Jan 08 17:29 |
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| twitter | not bad, considering the source. | Jan 08 17:29 |
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| schestowitz | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WxOp5mBY9IY Skip to 9:10 | Jan 08 17:29 |
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| schestowitz | What was the syntax for deep linking? I can't rememeber.. | Jan 08 17:30 |
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| twitter | I don't know that would be nice. Clive just gets the mp4 | Jan 08 17:30 |
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| twitter | this thing is from 1999? | Jan 08 17:31 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.findmysoft.com/news/YouTube-A... | Jan 08 17:31 |
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| schestowitz | Never mind | Jan 08 17:31 |
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| schestowitz | I'll deep-link it. | Jan 08 17:32 |
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| schestowitz | 1997 | Jan 08 17:32 |
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| twitter | That's worth sharing, " you want to deep link to this specific time 1:03. All you have to do is attach “#t=1m03s” to the video’s URL. What you will end up with is this deep link." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD_KNf... for example. | Jan 08 17:33 |
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| twitter | too bad they don't have a start and end time | Jan 08 17:34 |
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| schestowitz | Yes | Jan 08 17:34 |
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| schestowitz | I got it anyway | Jan 08 17:34 |
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| twitter | It's nice to have that. At the time, people at Apple and M$ talked and acted as if software monopolies were natural. They might have still believed that free software was impossible and that there was not enough "room" in the market for more than one or two non free companies because non free would never work with others. | Jan 08 17:43 |
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| twitter | These comments show the arrogance of non free software makers. | Jan 08 17:43 |
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| twitter | By 1999, there were several usable distributions, even commercial distributions. As RMS said, saying free software is impossible is like saying airplanes are impossible when anyone can go to the airport and watch them take off and land. | Jan 08 17:45 |
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| twitter | Yet here we are, 10 years later, and some people still say the same shit. It takes the form of "Free software will never do X" where X is a working kernel, friendly GUI, documentation, media playing, and so on and so forth. | Jan 08 17:47 |
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| schestowitz | They are marketing companies | Jan 08 17:48 |
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| schestowitz | Dell shuts Limerick factory and scraps 1,900 jobs < http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/01/08/... > | Jan 08 17:50 |
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| schestowitz | That's like 10,000 so far today | Jan 08 17:50 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.prwatch.org/node/8115 (Deadly Deception: The Tobacco Industry's Secondhand Smoke Cover Up) | Jan 08 17:52 |
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| schestowitz | Propaganda that costs lives | Jan 08 17:52 |
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| schestowitz | An Army of $15.5 Million < http://www.prwatch.org/node/8119 > | Jan 08 17:55 |
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| tessier_ | Morning all. Anything interesting happening today? | Jan 08 18:11 |
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| schestowitz | Just more reports about Vietnam | Jan 08 18:12 |
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| schestowitz | "Joe - It has been rumored that some of Novell’s largest GroupWise customers are moving away from that platform. As I understand it, GroupWise Maintenance is Novell’s largest source of revenue from a product perspective. What will that revenue loss mean for new technology offerings from Novell since they are already behind companies like Google, and Microsoft in the GroupWare and Collaboration space." http://www.thevarguy.com/2 | Jan 08 18:13 |
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| schestowitz | 009/01/06/podcast-novell-chief -marketing-officer-john-dragoon/ | Jan 08 18:13 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/01/06/pod... | Jan 08 18:13 |
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| schestowitz | Found in 4 place so far (this one's the latest): http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/20... | Jan 08 18:14 |
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| schestowitz | Asus reveals wireless HD Eee PC inside a keyboard < http://www.daniweb.com/blogs/entry3760.html > | Jan 08 18:22 |
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| tessier_ | I noticed this morning that someone from Novell is contributing quite a bit to the development of btrfs | Jan 08 18:32 |
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| tessier_ | btrfs is awesome and soon to be included in Linus' kernel. | Jan 08 18:32 |
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| schestowitz | Which person? | Jan 08 18:33 |
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| schestowitz | Yes, it'l be merges | Jan 08 18:33 |
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| schestowitz | It's an Oracle project (Chris Mason or something) | Jan 08 18:33 |
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| tessier_ | From: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com> | Jan 08 18:34 |
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| tessier_ | He appears to be doing very good work so don't cause him any troubles. :) | Jan 08 18:34 |
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| tessier_ | Yes, it's Chris Mason. | Jan 08 18:34 |
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| tessier_ | Chris Mason did a lot of work on reiserfs also. | Jan 08 18:34 |
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| tessier_ | "Asus might have lost the netbook war to Acer" | Jan 08 18:35 |
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| tessier_ | huh? How so? | Jan 08 18:35 |
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| tessier_ | Asus is selling tons of EEE PC's | Jan 08 18:35 |
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| schestowitz | Acer sells more | Jan 08 18:36 |
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| schestowitz | Slightly more according to 'stats' | Jan 08 18:36 |
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| tessier_ | More netbooks or laptops in general? | Jan 08 18:36 |
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| tessier_ | I don't even know the name of the Acer netbook product. | Jan 08 18:37 |
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| tessier_ | This PC inside a keyboard thing looks awesome btw. | Jan 08 18:37 |
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| tessier_ | I've always wanted a PC in a full keysize touch-typeable keyboard. | Jan 08 18:37 |
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| tessier_ | Not a huge 101 key monstrosity keyboard. Something like the Happy Hacking keyboard. | Jan 08 18:37 |
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| tessier_ | But wireless HDMI? I've never heard of that. I wish it had a clamshell design like traditional notebooks with a screen the same size as the keyboard. | Jan 08 18:38 |
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| schestowitz | Acer -> Aspire (One) | Jan 08 18:40 |
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| schestowitz | Carder linked to TJX hack jailed for 30 years by Turkish court < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/0... > | Jan 08 18:41 |
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| tessier_ | So who from TJX is going to jail for letting this happen? | Jan 08 18:41 |
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| tessier_ | I am reminded of the Drill Sargent from Full Metal Jacket: | Jan 08 18:42 |
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| schestowitz | Which part was this? | Jan 08 18:43 |
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| *schestowitz hasn't watched it for years | Jan 08 18:43 |
| schestowitz | Sutor snubs ISO: http://www.sutor.com/newsite/blog-open/?p=3269 | Jan 08 18:46 |
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| schestowitz | 20,000 jobs to go at Dell, IBM and Lenovo < http://www.itwire.com/content/view/22... > | Jan 08 18:47 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe... Crazy tabloids | Jan 08 18:48 |
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| schestowitz | Satyam delisted: Indian computer giant delisted after scandal < http://edition.cnn.com/2009/BUSINESS/01... > | Jan 08 18:50 |
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| schestowitz | If they could get away with it until now that he confessed, anyone could (and many do). It'll blow up soon.. | Jan 08 18:50 |
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| tessier_ | HARTMAN: "Jesus H. Christ! Private Pyle, why is your footlocker unlocked?" PYLE: "Sir, I don't know, sir!" HARTMAN: "Private Pyle, if there is one thing in this world that I hate, it is an unlocked footlocker! You know that, don't you?" PYLE: "Sir, yes, sir!" HARTMAN: "If it wasn't for dickheads like you, there wouldn't be any thievery in this world, would there?" PYLE: "Sir, no, sir! | Jan 08 18:52 |
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| tessier_ | Windows is an unlocked footlocker. | Jan 08 18:52 |
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| tessier_ | Don't prosecute the crackers. Prosecute the ones who didn't lock their footlocker. | Jan 08 18:52 |
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| schestowitz | *sigh* [me seeing stuff] Why do people /still/ cite Gartner. They are corruptible. E-mails from antitrust show them negotiating with clients what they'll write. | Jan 08 18:53 |
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| schestowitz | Paycut too: http://www.masshightech.com/stories/2009... OLPC loses half staff, reduces pay for others | Jan 08 18:54 |
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| schestowitz | Keep one, sack one | Jan 08 18:54 |
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| schestowitz | They ought to have sought justice against the crimes of WIntelsoft | Jan 08 18:54 |
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| schestowitz | Lora still peddles that "Microsoft to devour FOSS" plot: http://www.itbusinessedge.com/blogs/... | Jan 08 18:56 |
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| tessier_ | I'm bummed about OLPC. I bought one and shipped it to my 12 year old brother in law in Vietnam. | Jan 08 18:57 |
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| tessier_ | I was looking forward to the day when all of his friends would have one and he would have been the first kid on his block. | Jan 08 18:57 |
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| tessier_ | Now I don't know that it will ever happen. | Jan 08 18:57 |
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| tessier_ | I' | Jan 08 18:57 |
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| tessier_ | I'm a bit worried about OpenMoko also. | Jan 08 18:57 |
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| tessier_ | I support these guys by dropping hundreds of dollars ($1000 between OLPC and OpenMoko) on their early hardware and then they go and screw up organisationally. | Jan 08 18:58 |
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| schestowitz | Not many companies are growing these days | Jan 08 19:00 |
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| schestowitz | Motorola, Sony, Samsung.. | Jan 08 19:00 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/... (Microsoft: Customers play "Russian roulette" with their systems) | Jan 08 19:01 |
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| schestowitz | Sure, Windows *is* "Russian roulette" | Jan 08 19:02 |
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| schestowitz | Now they blame CUSTOMERS/ | Jan 08 19:02 |
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| twitter | M$ has always blamed the user for security and other problems. | Jan 08 19:03 |
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| tessier_ | My employer is growing. :) | Jan 08 19:04 |
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| tessier_ | That reminds me, I need to post those job adverts today... | Jan 08 19:04 |
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| schestowitz | Datamt1on will pass on this OOo interview, but I've just asked an interview for BN (unpaid :-( )? | Jan 08 19:04 |
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| schestowitz | People whom I speak to see their company shrinking fast | Jan 08 19:05 |
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| twitter | Here's someone with the nerve to defend M$ about the Vista Capable scam. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/200... | Jan 08 19:05 |
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| schestowitz | There are also some 'boot lickers' out there How do you think Microsoft find lawyers to defend it? | Jan 08 19:07 |
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| schestowitz | *finds | Jan 08 19:07 |
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| schestowitz | Vietnam goes "100 per cent open source" by 2010 < http://www.heise.de/english/newstick... > | Jan 08 19:07 |
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| schestowitz | tessier: go help Kevin. :-) | Jan 08 19:08 |
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| schestowitz | Google Cuts Jobs, But Acquisitions Ahead < http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/01... >. Microsoft is next, but some say it will pressure them out silently (it already does this) | Jan 08 19:09 |
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| twitter | there once was a place in Limerick, made shiny PCs with glass. When Vista fell in a failure, they fired all the workers and Balmer blew cash out of his ass. | Jan 08 19:14 |
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| trmanco | http://pthree.org/2009/01/07/rm-rf/ | Jan 08 19:16 |
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| schestowitz | "An anonymous reader called our attention to a comment reposting some fantastic thinking on the dangerous trend of believing we can own, sell or steal ideas." http://techdirt.com/articles/20090... | Jan 08 19:20 |
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| schestowitz | root@host ~#: rm -rf / tmp/* | Jan 08 19:21 |
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| schestowitz | rm: cannot remove root directory `/' | Jan 08 19:21 |
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| schestowitz | One space kills HDD | Jan 08 19:21 |
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| trmanco | use to kill | Jan 08 19:22 |
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| twitter | use tab complete to avoid that kind of mistake | Jan 08 19:23 |
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| schestowitz | Sod it :-) I'm going to the gym.. | Jan 08 19:23 |
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| twitter | Here's Ed Bott, providing unintended humor, " Virtually every one of those systems had also run Windows Vista at some point in its lab lifecycle, which made it easy for me to track down the best drivers for each subsystem and peripheral." | Jan 08 19:24 |
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| schestowitz | I've just posted this: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01... | Jan 08 19:24 |
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| twitter | Oh, so easy. Sign me up to track down drivers for all my hardware. | Jan 08 19:24 |
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| schestowitz | Ed Bought | Jan 08 19:24 |
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| schestowitz | How much does Microsoft compensate him and how? | Jan 08 19:24 |
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| schestowitz | He sells books to promote them, so he's an ecosystem goon. | Jan 08 19:24 |
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| schestowitz | GNU/Linux: track down without the tracking down... it's all in the CD | Jan 08 19:25 |
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| twitter | Generally fully automatic. | Jan 08 19:25 |
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| tessier_ | http://tracyreed.org/blog/we-are-pa... | Jan 08 19:38 |
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| PetoKraus | lol | Jan 08 19:50 |
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| PetoKraus | "As always, 2008 proved to be an interesting year" | Jan 08 19:50 |
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| PetoKraus | priceless :D | Jan 08 19:50 |
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| *r0ver is now known as r0ver|mtg | Jan 08 19:56 |
| twitter | This looks like CES 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3deeiW_rTqo | Jan 08 20:01 |
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| twitter | Sweaty B says something about a Facebook deal ... ha ha on Facebook users. | Jan 08 20:02 |
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| twitter | "You can now connect Facebook with Windows Live." | Jan 08 20:02 |
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| twitter | Windows Live and Live Search will be installed on all Dell consumer and small business PCs. | Jan 08 20:03 |
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| twitter | They also have some kind of deal with Verrizon that puts M$ search on all US Verrizon phones. | Jan 08 20:06 |
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| twitter | It's funny that he was hyping up choice of Windows Mobil phones right before announcing they will all come with M$ Search. Even iPhone offers better choice than that. | Jan 08 20:07 |
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| twitter | It's like he still thinks he can lock down all of those platforms and kill Google. | Jan 08 20:09 |
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| twitter | Basically, he just gave everyone reasons to avoid Windows Mobil and Facebook. | Jan 08 20:09 |
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| twitter | Story submission, http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl... | Jan 08 20:25 |
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| twitter | we will hear more about these deals, I'm sure. | Jan 08 20:25 |
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| *r0ver|mtg is now known as r0ver | Jan 08 21:02 |
| schestowitz | I have so many good things lined up for posting :-) | Jan 08 21:47 |
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| NeonFloss | like what? | Jan 08 22:00 |
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| schestowitz | Mostly antitrust. | Jan 08 22:05 |
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| schestowitz | I don't have enough time to do that and the news tracking as well. | Jan 08 22:05 |
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| schestowitz | Fraudsters try to sort out the mess: http://www.pcworld.com/article/156665/satyam_t... | Jan 08 22:09 |
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| schestowitz | OOXML revisionism of corruption at play: http://www.zdnetasia.com/insight/special... | Jan 08 22:14 |
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| tessier_ | Satyam means truth in Hindi. Isn't that funny? ;) | Jan 08 22:24 |
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| tessier_ | Truth told lies. | Jan 08 22:24 |
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| schestowitz | Hahaha. | Jan 08 22:25 |
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| schestowitz | Perfect coverup. Like pet "charity" | Jan 08 22:25 |
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| tessier_ | I wonder how effective that really is as a tactic. To make your name something pure and wholesome so customers think better of you. | Jan 08 22:26 |
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| tessier_ | MS could change its name to "DefinitelyNotAViolationOfTheShermanAct" | Jan 08 22:26 |
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| tessier_ | dot com | Jan 08 22:26 |
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| PetoKraus | bah | Jan 08 22:27 |
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| PetoKraus | be open | Jan 08 22:27 |
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| PetoKraus | .gov | Jan 08 22:27 |
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| schestowitz | voicesforinnovation.org .. registered by MS | Jan 08 22:27 |
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| tessier_ | I guess nobody thought my new blog entry was all that clever. People asking me "huh? I don't get it." Oh well. | Jan 08 22:27 |
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| tessier_ | At least I amuse myself. | Jan 08 22:28 |
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| PetoKraus | tessier_: link? | Jan 08 22:28 |
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| schestowitz | http://tracyreed.org/blog/we-are-payi... | Jan 08 22:28 |
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| PetoKraus | pun intended :D | Jan 08 22:28 |
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| tessier_ | There ya go. schestowitz beat me to it. | Jan 08 22:28 |
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| tessier_ | oops...misspelled doughnut. Let me fix that... | Jan 08 22:28 |
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| PetoKraus | no | Jan 08 22:28 |
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| PetoKraus | !! it sounds like dought-nut | Jan 08 22:29 |
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| PetoKraus | doooot-nut | Jan 08 22:29 |
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| tessier_ | I gotta fix my server. The disk IO is sucking slowing everything down. | Jan 08 22:29 |
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| PetoKraus | dot-net | Jan 08 22:29 |
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| PetoKraus | :) | Jan 08 22:29 |
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| PetoKraus | i thought it's on purpose | Jan 08 22:29 |
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| PetoKraus | :P | Jan 08 22:29 |
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| tessier_ | Nope. And I doubt anyone would think it anything but me being illiterate. | Jan 08 22:29 |
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| PetoKraus | :D | Jan 08 22:29 |
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| schestowitz | What happened to ultra-violet? | Jan 08 22:30 |
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| tessier_ | I still have it. But I think I prefer to "build my brand" | Jan 08 22:30 |
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| tessier_ | It points to tracyreed.org | Jan 08 22:30 |
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| schestowitz | OK | Jan 08 22:30 |
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| tessier_ | So does email. It all goes to the same place. | Jan 08 22:30 |
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| schestowitz | Also escapes the AtctiveX thugs :-) | Jan 08 22:30 |
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| tessier_ | Ultraviolet is rather hard to spell out also. | Jan 08 22:30 |
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| schestowitz | When I bought schestowitz.com for 10 years it was rare to buy one's name as a domain. | Jan 08 22:31 |
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| tessier_ | I get tired of explaining it over the phone. "What does ultraviolet mean?" "Well, way back in '96 or so when I registered my own domain I was big into U2 and I couldn't think of anything better but I had this U2 CD sitting there and..." | Jan 08 22:31 |
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| schestowitz | Then blogs became more ppular. | Jan 08 22:31 |
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| tessier_ | Yeah. | Jan 08 22:31 |
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| schestowitz | http://radian.org/notebook/porsche "Adolf Merckle, one of the world’s richest men, committed suicide yesterday by throwing himself under a train, Bloomberg reports. Financial difficulties, and particularly great losses he suffered on Volkswagen stock, are being cited as the key reason he ended his life..." | Jan 08 22:32 |
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| schestowitz | That's two in less than a month. | Jan 08 22:32 |
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| tessier_ | Who was the other one? | Jan 08 22:32 |
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| schestowitz | A friend of the Madoffocker (second-richest lady) is said to have killed herself too. | Jan 08 22:33 |
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| tessier_ | Ah. | Jan 08 22:33 |
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| tessier_ | I heard about Merckle on the radio the other day. | Jan 08 22:33 |
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| schestowitz | Not confirmed as a suicide at the time, but probably so. | Jan 08 22:33 |
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| PetoKraus | schestowitz: ultra-violence? | Jan 08 22:33 |
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| schestowitz | The world will be better without some of these chaps | Jan 08 22:33 |
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| schestowitz | They probably hide some secrets that they take to the grave | Jan 08 22:33 |
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| Tallken | hiz | Jan 08 22:34 |
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| tessier_ | PetoKraus: Someone once actually said that to me. | Jan 08 22:34 |
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| tessier_ | "Your domain name is ultra-violence? And we're supposed to hire you?" hahah | Jan 08 22:34 |
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| schestowitz | A lot of corruption has yet to come out this year. Lots! | Jan 08 22:34 |
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| PetoKraus | tessier_: i guess you're kubrick-lover | Jan 08 22:34 |
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| tessier_ | At least I'm not a gun nut who has his whole gun collection and not much else else his personal website. I have a friend like that. I tried to get him hired on where I was but my boss took one look at his site and said no way. | Jan 08 22:35 |
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| tessier_ | PetoKraus: Yeah, I like a lot of his films. | Jan 08 22:35 |
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| PetoKraus | i saw only clockwork orange | Jan 08 22:35 |
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| PetoKraus | and part of eyes wide shut | Jan 08 22:35 |
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| schestowitz | Noe ESR? | Jan 08 22:35 |
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| tessier_ | PetoKraus: So you don't find my blog entry amusing either? | Jan 08 22:36 |
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| PetoKraus | i guess i miss the reference | Jan 08 22:37 |
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| tessier_ | If nobody likes/gets it I can remove it. I don't like having profanity on my site without at least good artistic reason for it. | Jan 08 22:38 |
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| PetoKraus | profanity? | Jan 08 22:39 |
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| PetoKraus | OH I C! | Jan 08 22:40 |
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| schestowitz | Redir it to ultraviolent | Jan 08 22:40 |
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| tessier_ | It's not FMJ without profanity. That's some brilliant stuff. | Jan 08 22:40 |
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| PetoKraus | :D | Jan 08 22:40 |
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| schestowitz | I've put more activist stuff in schestowitz.com as of late | Jan 08 22:41 |
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| tessier_ | I can barely remember to update one website. | Jan 08 22:43 |
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| tessier_ | I can't imagine having multiple. Although I do need to get my consulting business website up and running again. | Jan 08 22:43 |
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| tessier_ | The consulting biz is pretty dormant at the moment but I hope to get things going again once my wife finishes school and can help me out. | Jan 08 22:43 |
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| schestowitz | Cool! | Jan 08 22:44 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/04/... EDGI in table, on page 5. Note ref on page 2 to "MGB Linux $50,000 prize competition" (!) CompHot Escalation Team Summary: "Linux infestations" | Jan 08 22:48 |
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| schestowitz | Why are adverts entering Google News.. http://abc.az/eng/news/corporate... | Jan 08 23:21 |
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| schestowitz | I wonder is Sun's OOo talk about QA is a result of the Novell FUD/Go-OOXML.. http://blogs.sun.com/GullFOSS/entr... (24 hour QA chat at 13th of January 2009) | Jan 08 23:24 |
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| schestowitz | 33604 pageviews so far today (in 18 hours, non-bots only) | Jan 08 23:29 |
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| schestowitz | I got heaps of antitrust goodies. Will spost some soon. :-) | Jan 08 23:36 |
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| schestowitz | In some of them you see Microsoft pretty much bribing Gartner | Jan 08 23:36 |
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| schestowitz | They also manipulate their TCO 'studies' | Jan 08 23:37 |
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| schestowitz | And Allchin runs the show with anti-Linux studies | Jan 08 23:37 |
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| schestowitz | Also IDC | Jan 08 23:37 |
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| schestowitz | Which owns IDG, i.e. lots of news sites that promote Windows and stuff... | Jan 08 23:37 |
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| schestowitz | Cool. AdamW still writes about Mandriva (after the layoffs): http://www.happyassassin.net/broadcom-prop... | Jan 08 23:42 |
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| MinceR | gn | Jan 08 23:42 |
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| PetoKraus | gn | Jan 08 23:43 |
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| PetoKraus | oh, it's almost midnight! | Jan 08 23:43 |
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| schestowitz | Major new: Novell hired Microsoft veteran as chief | Jan 08 23:45 |
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| MinceR | it's almost 1 here | Jan 08 23:45 |
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| MinceR | there's a shocker. | Jan 08 23:45 |
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| schestowitz | Nope | Jan 08 23:45 |
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| schestowitz | Another signpost | Jan 08 23:45 |
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| tessier_ | US 'renews' Microsoft share probe: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/2... | Jan 08 23:57 |
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