New Video: How Free Software Can Save the World
- Dr. Roy Schestowitz
- 2009-07-30 11:51:21 UTC
- Modified: 2009-07-30 11:51:21 UTC
Recent Techrights' Posts
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- And it was likely talked about by his lawyers around the exact same time Nat Friedman was packing up
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- 2025 was probably the best year for us
- South Americans Are Saying Goodbye to Microsoft
- We're hardly even "Cherry-Picking" or conveniently singling out one South American nation
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- Over at Tux Machines...
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- It's not legal, but administrators who don't care about the law and don't fear the law would just go ahead and turn things to junk
- Over at Tux Machines...
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- IRC logs for Wednesday, June 04, 2025
- Slopwatch: Mindless Slop Pieces, Fake Images and Text, Linux FUD on the Cheap
- spewed out by Microsoft-controlled LLMs
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- There's no guarantee that writing the truth will result in an audience (or readership), but over time - in the long run - people generally gravitate towards what they know or feel to be crude truth, not just what's comforting (albeit false or self-deluding, usually groupthink dictated from above)
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- Over at Tux Machines...
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- IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, June 03, 2025
- IRC logs for Tuesday, June 03, 2025
- Abuse Inside the Polish Patent Office (UPRP) - Part I: It's a Lot Like the EPO
- we can commence a series soon
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Comments
satipera
2009-07-30 13:08:27
Dario
2009-08-01 07:05:15
http://www.geeksoc.org/gcds/Keynote:%20Glyn%20Moody,%20Why%20Hackers%20Will%20Save%20the%20World.ogv#/Keynote_Glyn_Moody_Why_Hackers_Will_Save_the_World_ogv_Keynote_20Glyn_20Moody_20Why_20Hackers_20Will_20Save_20the_20World.ogv
zatoichi
2009-08-01 14:29:18
bambambox
2009-08-01 14:45:37
http://boycottnovell.com/2009/08/01/hackweek-and-suse-studio/
Granted, there is no fanfare, but the news has been reported.
zatoichi
2009-08-01 15:56:12
Maybe he likes complaining about things better than getting what he wants.
Say, speaking of "complaining about things", here is a video in which Mr. Stallman makes the claim that the ability of the Linux kernel to dynamically load drivers violates the terms of the GPL—evidently he's saying that, since the kernel can't fulfill the terms of the license, it can't be legitimately said to be released under that license.
Given that, why hasn't the FSF stopped using the non-free "GNU/Linux" system and moved over to the completely free "GNU/HURD" system? Why hasn't it recommended that others do so as well?
bambambox
2009-08-01 17:31:15
Any how, over on the Mono Nono site there is talk of making a proper distribution out of it, by including alternative applications like Gnote and such. Might be something, might be nothing. We'll just have to wait and see.
zatoichi
2009-08-01 17:51:26
I can't account for the trouble you're having, since I pretty much stated what I see as Roy's motivation to bury this flat-out.
Roy would rather complain about "Mono in the default Ubuntu install" than actually do anything about it, or acknowledge anyone else's having done something about it. Jo's "Chicken Little Remix" removes a front in the "war" Roy imagines he's waging, and that's not helpful to him. Roy is not about getting results, he's about getting attention. If he admits that he "won" here, then he can't complain about how Canonical and Ubuntu are "oppressing" the "community" by including Mono-related stuff any more. So he buries the story.
Is that clear enough? For all the complaining Roy's done about Mono being in Ubuntu, he's never taken a single practical step to actually doing anything about it. He's posted a lot of questionable articles about it, run down a lot of people associated with Ubuntu and Canonical about it, but he didn't submit his name for an open seat on the Ubuntu Technical Board, and he didn't do a simple remix, like Jo thoughtfully did.
I'll be very interested to see whether the folks who want Mono out of Ubuntu so badly are willing and able to do the heavy lifting, now that Jo has shown them how. So far, Dan Serban seems to be airing his sense of entitlement to Jo's time in unilaterally signing Jo up to do twice-yearly releases for him. Jo reports no more than a handful (around ten, last herd from) of downloads, but since Roy's burying the story...
saulgoode
2009-08-01 19:19:52
Richard Stallman stated, "He [Linus Torvalds] implemented a feature in Linux, the kernel, for the dynamic loading of device drivers.
Now the effect of this was that GNU/Linux could use a device with a proprietary device by dynamically loading it. Now I think that this violates the GNU GPL just as much as statically linking the same driver would violate the GNU GPL."
Contrasting Mr Stallman's actual words with your paraphrasis, Mr Stallman was NOT claiming that the ability to dynamically link proprietary drivers which violated the GPL -- it was that the dynamically linking itself did so.
Now I don't think Mr Stallman's statement is entirely accurate in that it is an oversimplification and overlooks that there are some situations where dynamically linking a proprietary driver can be legal -- but nonetheless he did not actually claim that the ability to dynamically load proprietary drivers violated the GPL.
Nor is Mr Stallman's interpretation of the derived works aspect of copyright law unique to him, or the Free Software Foundation, or the Software Freedom Law Center. It is an opinion that has been expressed by Linus Torvalds and Greg Kroah-Hartman.
bambambox
2009-08-01 19:33:03
Yes, sure. You don't like Roy very much, I notice. I'm not getting into that argument, thanks.
My guess is that one of the reasons the downloads are so few because those opposed to Mono will have already nuked it from their desktops long ago. The remix is useless to these people, and who else will such a distribution appeal to? Personally, I can't see the logic in installing an entire distro just to have a few different default packages, but there it is.
zatoichi
2009-08-01 19:49:07
It's equally unclear to me why Roy (or anyone) should feel that right approach is that the Ubuntu Technical Board should abandon its normal process and just "listen to (e.g.) Roy" rather than "(e.g.) Roy should remove whatever he doesn't want from his own desktop and get on with life".
But there it is; what's one to do?