Bonum Certa Men Certa

There is No Windows 7; Vista 7 is Actually Windows 6.1

Dice 6 and 1



Summary: A confirmatory check shows that Vista 7 is labeled by Microsoft as "Windows 6.1.7600.16385"

MANY months ago we showed that Vista 7 was in fact Windows 6.1. Vista is Windows 6.0 and Vista 7 is very similar to it, so the numbering makes sense.



Just to be sure, I've asked: "Does [Vista 7] RTM still say [Windows] 6.1?"

“Windows 2000 was NT 5.0, XP was 5.1.”
      --Ryan
The answer was: "I've been using the RTM since June 24th, and yes 6.1.7600." Indeed, this can be confirmed by querying the system.

"Windows 2000 was NT 5.0, XP was 5.1," adds our reader Ryan, who was once a Microsoft MVP.

6.1 sounds like an appropriate version number for the "Mojave experiment". Perhaps that was an experiment for Microsoft to learn if it could get away with sort of rebadging Windows Vista SP3 and marketing it very aggressively (using gentle bribes even) as a new and separate operating system, departing completely from the "Vista" brand it had spent so much money building.

What does Vista 7 offer that Vista does not already have? Almost nothing of substance.

One person in OS News asks: "What features?"

The body of the comment goes as follows.

Took away Ultimate Extras, changed the control panel, moved simple stuff like printers around, changed the start menu and forcing the new start menu on people, and all the dumb things like UAC are still dumb.

Its Vista Service Pack 3, with forced changes (no Classic start menu), it will piss of IT organizations again, it really didn't add anything new, in fact, it took things away.

This is more or less another big disappointment. Its money for an effective service pack. It makes forced changes to appeal to the 10-15% of people who aren't using windows and gleefully risking pissing everyone else off (the long term Windows users).

Moving things around also makes support harder. And, just to make sure where I am on this, Ribbon stinks, and real applications like Illustrator and Photoshop don't screw with the interface because what is there works for people who actually DO WORK.

I think the biggest leap in innovation was from 3.1 -> NT 4.0, it was huge. It was cutler bringing NT kernel in and making real changes. Things have been incremental till Windows 2003, which in my mind, is the Windows operating system's peak.

Now its a sad boring death, and it isn't even that exciting to watch anymore.

I have administrated highly heterogeneous networks and IT systems, I use Windows every day, I game occasionally, but I also use FreeBSD, Linux and Solaris every day as well.

Windows XP did everything I need Windows Vista and Windows 7 today, save support more modern wireless encryption with ease (and that could be fixed in XP if MSFT wanted to).

Also, with Windows 7 XP mode, IT will really hate it, now they have to buy 2 seats of antivirus and junk like that for every workstation.

Windows 7 should have at least included a real Antivirus, like DOS 6 used to have it (MSAV). But no, in the age of taking stuff away and calling it new, Windows 7 fits right in I guess.

64-bit support still remains "hacky" as well, seems we are stuck with system32, wow64, and (x86) bs in certain directories.

In a word: Fail. Vista SP3. NEXT. Its worth using simply to get bug fixes but offers nothing new and isn't worth the money.


Here is another post which is titled "Things to Know About Windows 7."

* Cannot "upgrade" from Windows XP-- only from Vista. XP users will have to do a full-package clean install * To upgrade from Windows XP to Windows 7 with XP-compatibility will cost users $299 * Significant incompatibility with Windows XP * Only the pricier versions offer an XP-compatible mode * Twelve confusing releases to choose from, with hidden "gotchas" in eight of them * Doesn't really bring anything new to the table, nor give users a reason for upgrading from Windows XP-- especially at a $299 price tag


We're not quite over with Vista 7, not just yet anyway. The launch was a relative failure and truths are beginning to trickle in. Vista 7 is a wonderful example of how vicious, deceptive, and even criminal Microsoft still is.

Comments

Recent Techrights' Posts

Gemini Links 03/10/2024: RetroChallenge and Change of Online Habits
Links for the day
Links 03/10/2024: Quantum Computer Vapourware (as Usual) and Samsung Layoffs
Links for the day
Links 03/10/2024: "Hey Hi" Scandals and Copyright/Trademark Disputes
Links for the day
Invidious Seems to be Nearing 'End of Life' After Repeated Crackdowns by Google/Alphabet/YouTube
To Free software users, YouTube ought to become a "no-no"
Links 03/10/2024: Climate Issues and Tensions in East Asia
Links for the day
Like a Marketing Department of Microsoft, Canonical Sells Back Doors and Surveillance as "Confidential" and "Hey Hi" (AI)
Notice how Canonical has made no statement critical of Microsoft for years
Gemini Links 03/10/2024: Frozen Tofu and SGI O2
Links for the day
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, October 02, 2024
IRC logs for Wednesday, October 02, 2024
Links 02/10/2024: Microsoft Spying on Windows Users Grows, Microsoft's Surveillance Arm LinkedIn Used to Highlight Employment Crisis
Links for the day
Links 02/10/2024: Students Who Can’t Read Books and Dead Butt Syndrome
Links for the day
Gemini Links 02/10/2024: GNU/Linux Distros, Flat-File Databases, and How the Web ate Gopher
Links for the day
Technology: rights or responsibilities? - Part II
By Dr. Andy Farnell
A Cost-Free Bribe From Microsoft
Daniel Stenberg is not dumb, but he seems rather gullible or unprincipled
Plans for the Site's 19th Year
Like TechDirt, we expect to devote more efforts/time to covering free speech online
Network Getting Faster
Loading up the site in 0.077 seconds
The Manchester Experience
Yesterday Tux Machines served 436,897 Web hits
If Red Hat Has Mass Layoffs This Year, Nobody Will Tell You About It
We seem to have entered a strange quasi-cosmic era wherein layoffs aren't disclosed anymore and news sites don't bother to report them, either
IBM, Kyndryl, Subsidiaries (Like Red Hat) and Silent Layoffs
Kyndryl follows in IBM's footsteps with rolling layoffs likely affecting thousands
Anniversaries and New Beginnings
The world needs more transparency and far less secrecy
Links 02/10/2024: Microsoft Kills Off HoloLens, Media Discusses Assange Speech
Links for the day
Gemini Links 02/10/2024: New Car, Broadband, and Gemtexter 3.0.0
Links for the day
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, October 01, 2024
IRC logs for Tuesday, October 01, 2024
[Meme] October 1st: The Day Julian Assange 'Officially Came Back'
Assange: See you in Strasbourg in 5 years
Full Transcript of Julian Assange's Speech in Strasbourg
the full thing
The Full Talk by Julian Assange Including Questions and Answers Discussed Further (October 1st 2024, Council of Europe Committee Legal Affairs)
Wikileaks covered this talk in "tweets"
Julian Assange's First Publicly Delivered Talk Since 2019
Julian Assange's talk in France
Links 01/10/2024: Another Escalation in the Middle East, Software Patents Being Squashed
Links for the day
Microsoft's Collapse is Continuing
Microsoft is discontinuing its HoloLens headsets
Links 01/10/2024: Gavin Newsom's Tech Safety Legislation, YouTube Sued for Health Harms
Links for the day
Gemini Links 01/10/2024: ROOPHLOCH and Photos
Links for the day
Julian Assange Talk: Watch Live
2 hours from now
"IBM executives did not decide to buy Red Hat on their own, nor will they decide to sell Red Hat on their own should that time ever arise"
Since IBM bought Red Hat it merely made its products more proprietary
GNU/Linux and Android Rose to New Highs in September
StatCounter isn't the ground truth, but there's not much else in the public domain.
Links 01/10/2024: Climate Stories, Climate Change, and War in Lebanon
Links for the day
Gemini Links 01/10/2024: Separation, Validation, and Flatfile Databases
Links for the day
Blind Worship of Technology is a Misguided Fool's Errand
Andy Farnell of the Cybershow used the metaphor of "golden calf" last week
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Monday, September 30, 2024
IRC logs for Monday, September 30, 2024