08.10.08
Gemini version available ♊︎Why LinuxHater Blog Could Be a Microsoft Front
ave a look at this blog post (English translation here). It’s about some obscure blogger that goes by the identity ‘LinuxHater’ and once attacked us. A while ago, Jeremy Allison, whom we trust, brought some more attention to this anonymous blog. There was a rebuttal to it.
“Watch this recent post about Maureen O’Gara and Microsoft agents coordinating a sabotage against Linux (OSDL) on the Web.”Why did Allison advocate this? Miguel de Icaza recommended this site at least twice in his personal blog. Does he encourage attacks on technical merits of Free software? It ought to be added that Carla Schroder at Linux Today recently linked to this pest (Allison’s and de Icaza’s endorsements surely did not help, did they?), but she got slammed for it by at least one reader. More rebuttals have just come that are arguing against this Web site, which is, oddly enough, run by incognito. Another Linux-slamming site might be Planète Béranger, but he is not troll and he was never anonymous. it’s just his style to rant (about virtually everything).
Regarding that ‘LinuxHater’ character (or pseudo character), one reader told us that he is “extremely selfish and arrogant or… in fact is so technically good because “he” is actually a front for a set of people machinating to poison programmers (who value technically good arguments, frequently disregarding any ethical arguments) against GNU/Linux.” Watch this recent post about Maureen O'Gara and Microsoft agents coordinating a sabotage against Linux (OSDL) on the Web. None of this is far fetched and the phenomenon by all means exists. Lastly adds our reader, regrading persistent attacks against critics of ‘LinuxHater’: “Th[ere] is circumstantial evidence, of course, but very suggestive of a connection.” █
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The 11th plague of Egypt said,
August 10, 2008 at 8:51 am
It appeared on Slashdot too, where they indirectly said his criticisms needs to be looked at as good bug reports.
“Corrupt brings us a ZDNet column by Jeremy Allison, who says Linux could benefit from more “tough love” in order to improve its functionality and popularity. Excerpting:” [...]
[i]“A perl script could probably parse out the useful information from them and log them as technical bug reports to the projects LinuxHater is writing about.”[/i]
http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/08/07/20/1457250.shtml
IMHO that blog has nothing more than deliberate attacks on every Linux aspect.
gggggg said,
August 10, 2008 at 11:50 am
It’s nothing but a scheme for ad revenue.
It’s intentional controversy. He’s intentionally controversial and provocative. More page views.
His use of vulgarity, obscenity and profanity. More controversy; more page views.
His lack of content. Besides the swearing he says nothing useful at all.
Why are people like Miguel de Icaza praising and linking to him? It cannot be because of it’s content; it hasn’t any at all. Miguel de Icaza cannot that stupid.
It’s not only him. There are others. The same people that ignore useful criticism by end users are jumping to pimp this guy. Why?
So the question is not who’s this guy. He’s just a low life trying to make some money from stupid people. The question is: Why are these supposedly intelligent persons from the open source community PROMOTING HIM?
Ask yourselves that!
p.cole said,
August 10, 2008 at 3:39 pm
If you’re to critique a project constructively, you have to provide directions or contribute help to work out a solution; Else, it’s emotive demagoguery.
Don’t feed the trolls.
Anonymous said,
August 10, 2008 at 4:03 pm
I think Icaza is Linux Hater.
It is not just smear, it is criticism coming from a person that really knows it, but you can notice that Linux Hater’s biases are similar to Icaza’s, he is more close to gnome and more anti C++, apple. Icaza always criticizes people that uses apple and Linux hater has tried to move attention against apple. Etc, etc, etc.
aeshna23 said,
August 10, 2008 at 6:10 pm
I tried to read LinuxHater’s blog, but his unbalanced attacks combined with the obscenity made for uninteresting reading. I’m shocked to learn that someone who writes like an angry junior high school boy
has anything of value to say about Linux–if what I’m reading is accurate. Does he really have anything insightful to say or are we just giving too much credit to a nasty guy?
Roy Schestowitz said,
August 10, 2008 at 6:42 pm
I’ve given no credit to it and no links either. It’s a word of caution nonetheless.
commentor said,
August 11, 2008 at 5:04 am
de Icaza.. sounds like a disease!
pm said,
August 19, 2008 at 8:22 am
More conspiracy theory BS. Linux doesn’t need MS to knock it down. It does it itself with its lack of QA.
Qumbaya said,
September 3, 2008 at 3:23 am
You are right, of course.
Linux has no flaws.
It is perfection, marred only by the conspiracy of Microsoft, Apple, Adobe, Autocad, Nvidia, Foxconn, and the end users.
/sarcasm
In case you haven’t noticed, Linux is a terrible operation system, awful development platform, and a second rated server at best.
me said,
September 3, 2008 at 4:56 am
oh come on…
Roy Schestowitz said,
September 3, 2008 at 5:00 am
That’s what unifies the blog in question and those who defend it: they are Free software bashers. It just serves to defend our argument.
Constructive criticism or bug reports is the better route to improvement.
me said,
September 3, 2008 at 5:59 am
No.He is the child that points the finger and says “the emperor is naked” (the emperor here being desktop linux) through his rants.
It’s you that have become blind zealots.
Roy Schestowitz said,
September 3, 2008 at 6:01 am
No, that would be Beranger.
me said,
September 3, 2008 at 6:21 am
No -again. Vitriol comes in many flavours (but i prefer it to cool-aid)
Roy Schestowitz said,
September 3, 2008 at 6:39 am
Whose Kool-Aid?
me said,
September 3, 2008 at 7:03 am
Everyone’s. But anything “it’s GNU/Linux” downwards is especially annoying…
me said,
September 3, 2008 at 7:04 am
Everyone’s. But anything from “it’s GNU/Linux” downwards is especially annoying…
Roy Schestowitz said,
September 3, 2008 at 7:08 am
Issue of attribution are not related to merit.
This is not a “LinuxFans” Website. We explore other things. You talk about imperfection and we talk about malicious intervention by foes of Free software. It raised skepticism when it comes to anonymous voices on the Web.
Ed said,
September 3, 2008 at 9:08 am
>> If you’re to critique a project constructively, you have to provide directions or contribute help to work out a solution; Else, it’s emotive demagoguery.
Nonsense. Saying that the emperor has no clothes is a vital function–it alerts others that *the emperor doesn’t have any bloody clothes* and that something needs to be done about it.
The idea that you have to direct others in how to fix it (though, if you actually read LHB, he’s *done that*) or contribute code to be “helpful” is preposterous, and a sign of a very serious disease in the open source community. People who don’t contribute code *still* can see when your emperor has no clothes!
Until y’all get your heads out of your backsides and understand this, you aren’t going to make a lot of progress toward making a desktop that doesn’t suck and a community that’s welcoming to users.
>> I think Icaza is Linux Hater.
I know Miguel in passing, and I’m certain it’s not him. IIRC he knows exactly who Linux Hater *is*, but it’s not him. Heck, just look at the writing styles. Way too divergent.
But this is the OMG HATE NOVELL site, so I’m sure I’ll be ignored.
Hahahaha said,
September 5, 2008 at 4:21 pm
I think you are the Linux Hater.
Ed said,
September 5, 2008 at 5:53 pm
Thank you for the compliment. But I’m not.
Roy Schestowitz said,
September 5, 2008 at 6:00 pm
It’s interesting that Miguel knows the person and recommends that people read it. It doesn’t bode well for Miguel.
Cav said,
September 5, 2008 at 7:15 pm
I’ve read linuxhaters. I want to know why w/ the opensauce ati driver i get a white screen in 1 out of 4 shutdowns and cant see the kernel output. W/ the closed ati driver no problem. why?
Dan O'Brian said,
September 5, 2008 at 7:48 pm
Linux Hater has some good criticisms of Linux. All of the FOSS developers I know who read LHB agree and some have started looking into the problems he’s exposed and started fixing them.
This is a Good Thing(tm) and afaict, why Miguel recommends people read it (his blog is only syndicated on hacker planets and doesn’t go around submitting his blogs to digg to get normal users to read it, so obviously his recommendation is for hackers to read it and take some of the criticisms to heart and fix the issues.
anonymous coward said,
September 6, 2008 at 9:19 am
this blog is so much fun
stevetheFLY said,
September 6, 2008 at 12:04 pm
the linux-hater blog is one of the funniest sites I’ve ever read! Only you people here are humourless and stupid enough to earnestly suspect a conspiracy behind it… you are SO sad! you sure you ain’t catholics?
Note: comment has been flagged for arriving from a possible incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, abusive Internet troll that posts from open proxies and relays around the world.
Roy Schestowitz said,
September 6, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Since you love trolling this Web site, I’m hardly surprised that you love a trolling blog where comments are “flames”.
loukas said,
September 8, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Come on it’s a fantastic read. K-pride, tada!, how to write a gnome/kde app…
Fantastic! If you crawl out of your cave and fix these things we all want fixed then there is no need for this site or novell, f**ktard(pun)