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schestowitzBut they can pass on poison to the well-indoctrinated.Jan 14 00:00
MinceRhe's consistently done these things over and over, willfully, shown no remorse and he has shown that he cares only about money and is willing to harm anyone and everyone to get itJan 14 00:00
schestowitzThose who believe Pearly is an AngelJan 14 00:00
twitterThey can pass on anything to the ignorant.Jan 14 00:00
schestowitzWell, he does after all own a lot of media companiesJan 14 00:00
schestowitzMinceR: let me find a good messageJan 14 00:01
twitterM$ Death Watch Updated with CES and Windows 7 sales projections http://slashdot.org/~twitter/jo...Jan 14 00:01
schestowitz____/ Ian Hilliard on Monday 12 January 2009 14:42 : \____Jan 14 00:02
schestowitz>Jan 14 00:02
schestowitz>Jan 14 00:02
schestowitz> ml2mst wrote:Jan 14 00:02
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schestowitz>> I'm wondering to what the nickname "The Vole" (when talking about MS)Jan 14 00:02
schestowitz>> refers to.Jan 14 00:02
schestowitz>>Jan 14 00:02
schestowitz>> All I fount out is, that MS was called The Vole @ The INQ. But stillJan 14 00:02
schestowitz>> don't understand why.Jan 14 00:02
schestowitz>>Jan 14 00:02
schestowitz>> I found a couple of articles about a rat alike species, but can't figureJan 14 00:02
schestowitz>> out what they have in common.Jan 14 00:02
schestowitz>>Jan 14 00:02
schestowitz>> What's the missing link?Jan 14 00:02
schestowitz>>Jan 14 00:02
schestowitz>> TIAJan 14 00:02
schestowitz>>Jan 14 00:02
schestowitz>Jan 14 00:02
schestowitz> In Startrek TNG lore, the Vole was the queen of the Borg. The Borg is a raceJan 14 00:02
schestowitz> of partly organic and partly technological creatures that move from regionJan 14 00:02
schestowitz> to region taking over other species. Any species that the Borg could notJan 14 00:02
schestowitz> integrate it would attempt to destroy. There was a time when MicrosoftJan 14 00:02
schestowitz> behaved much like the Borg. As such, Bill Gates was called the Vole.Jan 14 00:02
schestowitz>Jan 14 00:02
schestowitz> The days where Microsoft was all conquering have past. Those days started toJan 14 00:02
schestowitz> pass just about the time that Steve Balmer took control. To me the reasonJan 14 00:02
schestowitz> for this is simple. Under Bill Gates, the aim of Microsoft was to controlJan 14 00:02
schestowitz> the world of technology. Under Steve Balmer, the aim of Microsoft is toJan 14 00:02
schestowitz> make as much money as possible as quickly as possible.Jan 14 00:02
schestowitz>Jan 14 00:02
schestowitz> The results have been clear. Under Steve Balmer, Microsoft makes a lot ofJan 14 00:02
schestowitz> money and has made even more enemies. Steve Balmer has been a boon forJan 14 00:02
schestowitz> Linux and FOSS in general.Jan 14 00:02
tessier_yuhong: That bad? He should be drawn and quartered!Jan 14 00:02
tessier_I had no idea that the Borg queen was called the VoleJan 14 00:03
schestowitz*LOL* @ despite the release of Vista rebranded as Windows 7Jan 14 00:03
tessier_And I used to watch a lot of trekJan 14 00:03
MinceRme neitherJan 14 00:03
cjwowza.  pastebin, schestowitz :)Jan 14 00:03
twitterPC Makers expect Windows 7 to do nothing to improve sales, they instead expect it to decline another 2 to 8%.  :)Jan 14 00:04
twitterI thought a Vole was a kind of field mouse.  Oh well, make it so.Jan 14 00:04
twitterdinner time.Jan 14 00:04
schestowitz7 will give Lucky 7 (the number) a bad nameJan 14 00:04
schestowitzThey are on a killpathJan 14 00:04
schestowitzLike with FijiJan 14 00:04
twitteryep bbl.Jan 14 00:05
schestowitzFiji's fury over Microsoft's Pacific solution http://www.smh.com.au/news/biztech/fijis-fu...Jan 14 00:05
schestowitz"Fiji's military government has written to the software giant Microsoft demanding the company not use their country name in any of its products."Jan 14 00:06
yuhongTo be honest, I don't think Linux is a bad OS and I almost never criticise Linux.Jan 14 00:08
yuhongWhat does Pearly refers to?Jan 14 00:09
MinceRi think gatesJan 14 00:09
yuhongWhy?Jan 14 00:09
tessier_yuhong: As far as I'm concerned it's less about any specific software and more about the freedom and the process of FLOSS. Linux just happens to be the only usable FLOSS kernel we haveJan 14 00:10
MinceRit's sarcasm. you've never heard the phrase "pearly gates"?Jan 14 00:10
tessier_I don't trust Sun and their license.Jan 14 00:10
schestowitzNoorda...Jan 14 00:10
tessier_MinceR: It's a cultural thing. My wife has never heard of "pearly gates" either.Jan 14 00:10
yuhongNo not me either.Jan 14 00:10
schestowitzThe shark has pearly teethJan 14 00:10
schestowitzMackey (??) the Knife.Jan 14 00:11
tessier_It's a westerner/english/christian expression.Jan 14 00:11
yuhongWhat about "Jobs", do you mean Steve Jobs?Jan 14 00:11
tessier_Buddhists don't have a St Peter to wait for them at the Pearly Gates of heaven.Jan 14 00:11
yuhongI don't think FOSS is bad either.Jan 14 00:12
schestowitzMitch Kertzman, former CEO of Sybase, a Microsoft competitor in the database arena:Jan 14 00:13
schestowitz"To me, Bill is the great white shark that looks at minnows with no more consciousness than we look at a plate of food. The shark has no soul. The shark knows no boundaries. All it has is an appetite. When the shark gets hungry, it thinks “I’m hungry”, so it eats." Jan 14 00:13
yuhong"Linux just happens to be the only usable FLOSS kernel we have"Jan 14 00:13
yuhongNot true, there are *BSD and OpenSolaris.Jan 14 00:13
yuhongAnd ReactOS too.Jan 14 00:14
yuhongWhat about "Jobs", do you mean Steve Jobs?Jan 14 00:14
schestowitzThey suffer from momentum/publicity problemsJan 14 00:14
schestowitzSame for GNUJan 14 00:14
yuhongBut these are still usable FOSS kernels.Jan 14 00:15
yuhongWhat about "Jobs", do you mean Steve Jobs?Jan 14 00:15
yuhongAlso, you mentioned Intel execs in a previous IRC.Jan 14 00:17
yuhongHow does their crimes compare to MS.Jan 14 00:17
tessier_I just said I don't trust Sun.Jan 14 00:18
tessier_ReactOS is a windows emulation right?Jan 14 00:18
MinceR011858 < tessier_> It's a westerner/english/christian expression.Jan 14 00:18
tessier_BSD is a FLOSS kernel I suppose.Jan 14 00:18
MinceRyes, but it has spread a lot in popular cultureJan 14 00:18
tessier_I do prefer the GNU userland as well though.Jan 14 00:19
tessier_MinceR: Popular western culture.Jan 14 00:19
schestowitzIf the world no longer revolves around Sun, then what?Jan 14 00:19
MinceR(i'm not a native english speaker and not christian either)Jan 14 00:19
tessier_MinceR: The vast majority of people on earth do not know about the Pearly Gates.Jan 14 00:19
MinceRyes, western :)Jan 14 00:19
MinceRthe vast majority of people on earth can't connect to the internet, either :>Jan 14 00:19
tessier_Indeed.Jan 14 00:19
*schestowitz thinks MinceR has strong English skillsJan 14 00:20
*MinceR hopes so :)Jan 14 00:20
*schestowitz sulks at many self-inflicted typosJan 14 00:20
MinceRmy pronunciation isn't that great thoughJan 14 00:20
tessier_MinceR: What is your first language?Jan 14 00:20
MinceRand i probably still can't really separate the UK parts from the US parts of what i useJan 14 00:20
MinceRtessier_: hungarianJan 14 00:21
tessier_Ah.Jan 14 00:21
tessier_I have a friend from one of my other IRC channels in Hungary right now.Jan 14 00:21
tessier_He is from there .Jan 14 00:21
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MinceRreactos isn't an emulation, it's a windows reimplementationJan 14 00:22
MinceRi guess they aim to replace a bad implementation of a bad design with a good implementation of a bad design. :)Jan 14 00:22
tessier_http://i.gizmodo.com/512991...Jan 14 00:23
tessier_And that rules out ReactOS.Jan 14 00:23
tessier_There are a lot of reasons to not like Windows, not just the company that made itJan 14 00:23
MinceRindeed. actually i think there aren't many reasons to use it at allJan 14 00:25
MinceRsome apps holding the user back, perhaps -- but even that can be arranged for via dual-booting or in a vmJan 14 00:25
schestowitzReactOS uses Wine, AFAIKJan 14 00:26
tessier_But then you still have to buy windowsJan 14 00:26
schestowitzMS hired one of the lead devsJan 14 00:26
tessier_I really don't even know why ReactOS or Wine are bothering to do what they doJan 14 00:26
NeonFlossI find them usefulJan 14 00:27
MinceRwine helps transitionJan 14 00:27
tessier_I've never known anyone who used wine in a transition. All of the stuff people seem to want to run won't run in wineJan 14 00:27
MinceRif some windows-only apps are holding the user back, they might move them to wineJan 14 00:27
schestowitzSCO is up 14%Jan 14 00:29
schestowitz1 cent :-)Jan 14 00:29
schestowitzhttp://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/01/... (As Dow Sinks, Charity Traffic Goes Up)Jan 14 00:30
MinceRalso, once windows finally dies, wine might become the only way to run its apps for a whileJan 14 00:31
MinceRgnJan 14 00:32
schestowitzVista held great promise.. in early 2006Jan 14 00:33
schestowitzHad you asked someone about it back then (only enthusiasts tried it), they'd say "it'll kill Linux"Jan 14 00:34
schestowitzSo history repeats itself. It's a game that MS plays for PR.Jan 14 00:34
MinceRand the m$ fanboys don't learn because they lack the organ necessary for learningJan 14 00:34
schestowitzThey don't keep trackJan 14 00:35
schestowitzIt's not their faultJan 14 00:36
schestowitzThe art of deception is well mastered by marleting people and MS is a marketing companyJan 14 00:36
MinceRit's their fault for being militantly unaware of their environmentJan 14 00:36
schestowitzA lot of people fold the paper and are convinced that all in their is true.Jan 14 00:36
schestowitz"In print"= undeniably trueJan 14 00:36
schestowitzPeople are taught to accept this as a tautologyJan 14 00:37
schestowitzVar Guy sucks up to the Vole (see comments, I'm there too): http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/01/12/mic...Jan 14 00:39
schestowitzGun culture.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/ame... Where Jack Thompson when he can blame Microsoft? He did the same when the kid from Korea massacred kids on campus. I think he played Halo ot CS.Jan 14 00:41
schestowitz Dangerous coding errors revealed < http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/tech... >Jan 14 00:45
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schestowitz"Yahoo has chosen former Autodesk CEO Carol Bartz as its new chief executive, ending its search for Jerry Yang's replacement, according to a Wall Street Journal report this morning. Autodesk, known for its computer-assisted design software, happens to be a longtime Microsoft partner, so the choice may stir new speculation about a possible Yahoo-Microsoft search deal."Jan 14 00:49
schestowitzhttp://www.techflash.com/microsoft/Yahoos_CE...Jan 14 00:49
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NeonFlossschestowitz: sorry about the thing I did when I first joined the channelJan 14 01:19
NeonFlossthat was embarrassingJan 14 01:19
NeonFlosslmaoJan 14 01:19
schestowitzI remember.. :-)Jan 14 01:21
schestowitzIt's funny, that's all.Jan 14 01:21
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schestowitzWe got comment from likmeghn@microsoft.comJan 14 08:29
PetoKrausmorningJan 14 08:35
PetoKrauslink?Jan 14 08:35
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2009/0... "You sound really concerned about Novell - when were you exited from the company?"Jan 14 08:42
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MinceRgeekingsJan 14 09:20
PetoKraushttp://philosecurity.org/2009/01/...Jan 14 09:45
schestowitzSeen it last nightJan 14 09:46
schestowitzDavid Gerard posted a link in BNJan 14 09:46
PetoKrausit's niceJan 14 09:46
PetoKrausvery niceJan 14 09:47
PetoKrausi meanJan 14 09:47
PetoKrausTHIS is popular journalismJan 14 09:47
PetoKrausthis is how you do proper articles and interviewsJan 14 09:47
schestowitzthey put text as imagesJan 14 09:47
schestowitzI wanted to copy the quotes last night, but it was an image!!Jan 14 09:47
PetoKrausit doesn't make techies go like "uh oh, you're oversimplifying" and it doesn't make non-savvy people go "fuck off with all that tech"Jan 14 09:47
PetoKrausah, yesJan 14 09:48
PetoKrausyou can grep the article - it's text :PJan 14 09:48
MinceRi'd have preferred some more details thoughJan 14 09:50
MinceRsuch as how does windoze allow anyone to tamper with interrupt handlersJan 14 09:50
schestowitzPetoKraus: see the fonts on the sides.Jan 14 09:56
PetoKrausyJan 14 09:56
Omar871http://cc.aljazeera.net/con...Jan 14 10:00
Omar871This is a great step.Jan 14 10:00
schestowitzCool. "The Al Jazeera Creative Common Repository hosts select broadcast quality footage that Al Jazeera has released under various Creative Commons licenses."Jan 14 10:08
schestowitzCopyleft near..Jan 14 10:08
schestowitzThe BBC has heaps of archive no-one uses or has access to. Huge waste of info.Jan 14 10:09
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mib_57pwt4if it works for you why change itJan 14 10:18
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Omar871schestowitz: :)Jan 14 10:26
schestowitzre: mib*?Jan 14 10:29
Omar871schestowitz: perhaps it's a good thing thing to write about.Jan 14 10:31
Omar871schestowitz: The Al Jazeera thing I mean.Jan 14 10:31
schestowitzI'm putting it among the linksJan 14 10:34
Omar871Cool!Jan 14 10:43
schestowitzBN is a nuthouse, traffic-wiseJan 14 11:50
schestowitzI'm too cautious to check because analysing stats slows down an already slow server.Jan 14 11:51
schestowitzAlmost 10GB yesterday, exc. Coral traffic. Monday was about 6GB+CoralJan 14 11:52
schestowitzOh, we've also just made FP of Linux Today.Jan 14 11:52
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Omar871schestowitz: Pingdom can help you sort this problem out. However, their services might be a bit costy.Jan 14 12:10
Omar871http://www.pingdom.comJan 14 12:10
schestowitzThere are free servicesJan 14 12:10
schestowitzI'm OK with thatJan 14 12:10
schestowitzWe could also do things in the site to optimise itJan 14 12:10
schestowitzWe suffered downtimes on Monday.Jan 14 12:11
Omar871Sure.Jan 14 12:11
schestowitzOn Tuesday we spewed many error pagesJan 14 12:11
schestowitzI've just posted another smoking gunJan 14 12:11
Omar871oh okJan 14 12:11
schestowitzCheck out the latest post on MOUs and suchJan 14 12:11
Omar871By the way, can I ask you something?Jan 14 12:11
schestowitzIn the middle east, MS has many MOUs. I see it in the news.Jan 14 12:11
schestowitzSure.Jan 14 12:11
Omar871Does Google ads really earn you anything?Jan 14 12:12
Omar871Is it really as good as this big hype about it says it is?Jan 14 12:12
schestowitzNoJan 14 12:12
schestowitzShane has the AdSense accountJan 14 12:13
Omar871oh ok.Jan 14 12:13
schestowitzIt paid him $50 a month the last time I heard, which is more than enough for hosting (we needed to upgrade because of bandwidth cap)Jan 14 12:13
schestowitzHe says he uses the excess to burn and distribute Edu-Nix (the GNU/Linux distro he develops)Jan 14 12:13
Omar871mhmmJan 14 12:13
schestowitzThere's no money in activism.Jan 14 12:13
schestowitzBut it's *so* much fun.Jan 14 12:14
Omar871Yeah, sure it is.Jan 14 12:14
schestowitzFighting corruption is rewarding.Jan 14 12:14
schestowitzPJ says the same thing. I used to find it more stressful, but not anymoreJan 14 12:14
Omar871You just get used to it over time. :)Jan 14 12:15
schestowitzYes, thick skin and all.Jan 14 12:15
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/glynmoody/... "glynmoody: Is it just me, or are Web sites using more and more cookies these days? I spend my entire life clicking on OK to allow them for the session"Jan 14 13:09
MinceRi accept cookies for the correct domain automaticallyJan 14 13:10
MinceRand deny others automaticallyJan 14 13:10
schestowitzhere we go... riots and extremism fueled by the global corruption.. http://translate.google.com/t...Jan 14 13:12
schestowitzJust like before the world wars :-(Jan 14 13:12
schestowitzMinceR: never accept a cookie from a stranger.Jan 14 13:12
schestowitzWill Yahoo CEO move pave way for Microhoo? < http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-1014202... >Jan 14 13:14
twitterThere has been some strange cookie change lately.  Often a page will redirect konqueror sessions to a setcookie page.  I'll pay more attention next time.Jan 14 13:54
twitterA lot of people have been getting that 1930s feeling for a few years now.Jan 14 13:55
schestowitz1929Jan 14 13:59
schestowitzIdentify the symptoms and cause: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_...  Eerily familiarJan 14 14:00
PetoKrausi am so freaking tired. schestowitz, do you go to gym every day? I am knackered after playing football on monday and squash yesterday...Jan 14 14:06
PetoKrausi could use a pint of arran's thoughJan 14 14:07
schestowitz4 a weekJan 14 14:08
PetoKrausoh well. I need to get back to sportsJan 14 14:08
PetoKrausit stimulates mind quite a lotJan 14 14:08
schestowitzYes, sedentary lives become common.Jan 14 14:08
PetoKrausjust the body feels crap...Jan 14 14:08
schestowitzGo tot he toilet then. j/kJan 14 14:13
PetoKraus;)Jan 14 14:15
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PetoKrausdid you read about Qt relicensingJan 14 14:28
schestowitzI heard something about itJan 14 14:29
schestowitzGlyn twitted about LGPL.Jan 14 14:29
schestowitzAnd Qt..Jan 14 14:29
PetoKraushttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=n...Jan 14 14:29
schestowitzhttp://dot.kde.org/1231920504/ "This exciting change, made with consultation of the KDE Free Qt Foundation, should encourage KDE and Qt use among commercial and proprietary developers and makes the philosophy of "Qt Everywhere" complete."Jan 14 14:30
schestowitzI was gonna say f* Nokia, but the KDE people seem happy (?) about it..Jan 14 14:31
schestowitz"All-in-all today's news means tremendous things for Free and Open Source software. The possibility of extending the reach of all of our work is exciting in and of itself, and this announcement could lead to a veritable explosion of Qt and KDE adoption."Jan 14 14:31
trmancooooJan 14 14:35
trmancoyou Wanna know what got released today?Jan 14 14:35
trmancosorry, yesterday ...Jan 14 14:35
schestowitzOOo??? :-)Jan 14 14:38
schestowitzI got it an hour agoJan 14 14:38
schestowitzThere was a security update in MandrivaJan 14 14:38
trmanconopJan 14 14:38
trmancono OOoJan 14 14:39
trmanconot*Jan 14 14:39
schestowitzBut you said oooJan 14 14:39
trmancoLOLJan 14 14:39
trmancoboooJan 14 14:39
schestowitzLiarJan 14 14:39
trmanco:(Jan 14 14:39
trmancomononono got an updateJan 14 14:39
schestowitzOOo ooo! Mono!Jan 14 14:39
trmancoyeah, something like thatJan 14 14:39
schestowitzDid you inform the medical departments?Jan 14 14:40
schestowitzThe infecftion ought to be controlledJan 14 14:40
trmancoof what?Jan 14 14:40
trmancoohJan 14 14:40
trmancono not yetJan 14 14:40
schestowitzmononucleosis is infectiousJan 14 14:40
trmancoI don't really think my country is being deeply infedted with thatJan 14 14:40
trmancoinfected*Jan 14 14:40
trmancobut I will give them a heads up :-PJan 14 14:41
schestowitzIs there "Linux infestations" in your country, as MS called it?Jan 14 14:41
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trmancooh yeah ... but remember, this little country that I live in is "all about microfoot"Jan 14 14:42
trmancobut Linux will growJan 14 14:42
trmancoand is already growing, at least in the neighborhood I live in :-PJan 14 14:42
moogstrapi got my gf to switch to linux after telling her about how the OLPC project got blown apartJan 14 14:45
trmancocoolJan 14 14:45
trmancoI kinda did a coll thing todayJan 14 14:45
moogstrapbut I think for most people they convert for less ideological reasonsJan 14 14:45
trmancoI compiled a custom kernel today :DJan 14 14:46
trmancocool*Jan 14 14:46
moogstrapvery cool. Gentoo?Jan 14 14:46
trmanconopJan 14 14:47
schestowitzCool.Jan 14 14:47
trmancoFedoraJan 14 14:47
schestowitzMost people change for freedomJan 14 14:47
trmancoit took me 20 minutes to compile it and install itJan 14 14:47
schestowitzBut not in the conventional sense.Jan 14 14:47
schestowitzMore like the freedom to mess aboutJan 14 14:47
schestowitzNot to modify codeJan 14 14:47
moogstrapi used to think microsoft owned the rights to all of the programming languages becauses of things like Visual C and stuff. yeeeuchJan 14 14:48
trmancovisual C sucksJan 14 14:49
trmancoAFAIK, it is not even POSIX compliant?Jan 14 14:49
moogstrapdid anyone see the indy article about netbooks? http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadge...Jan 14 14:49
moogstrapI haven't a clue. I don't know C at allJan 14 14:50
trmancoo use emacs+gcc or g++ to compile C/C++ codeJan 14 14:51
ushimitsudokiposix compliance is not what matters ... it is ANSI/ISO compliance that C compilers should strive forJan 14 14:51
trmancoI*Jan 14 14:51
schestowitzVisual C? Blech.Jan 14 14:51
schestowitzSome people likes VB as a beginner's P/LJan 14 14:51
moogstrap"In return, Microsoft wanted assurances that the netbook's screens would remain limited to less than 10.2 inches and their hard drives to a maximum of 80 GB, to prevent them eating into the company's traditional laptop market. " lolJan 14 14:51
trmancovisual basicJan 14 14:52
trmancobeen there too...Jan 14 14:52
trmancoa 10 year old kid can can themselves a programmerJan 14 14:52
schestowitzmoogstrap: that's price-fixingJan 14 14:52
schestowitzIt's pat of the Intel-MS swindle.Jan 14 14:52
schestowitz*partJan 14 14:52
schestowitztrmanco: a 9-year-old can get an MCSEJan 14 14:53
schestowitz:-)Jan 14 14:53
moogstrapsure I know. it's just nice to see it in a major newspaper, in their featured article no lessJan 14 14:53
schestowitzhttp://www.switched.com/2008/12/24/9-year-...Jan 14 14:53
schestowitzMicrosoft employs a 9-year-old kid nowJan 14 14:53
trmanco...Jan 14 14:54
schestowitzSo if you find a bug, be waryJan 14 14:54
schestowitzEaster eggs might be literal/Jan 14 14:54
ushimitsudokihaha MCSE at age 9 - shows how much of a joke such certifications areJan 14 14:54
schestowitzBallmer's remark about free soda pops might make sense now.Jan 14 14:54
schestowitz"Click, file...then "save"..."Jan 14 14:55
schestowitzIf it's borked, reinstall or buy a new Intel PCJan 14 14:55
schestowitzMicrosoft Jack gets slapped: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/...Jan 14 14:58
schestowitz"If you actually broke accurate stories yourself instead of making fun of our site so much, I might not have to point it out. It's curious that you cite our work so much, since it is typically right on the news, and yet call All Things Digital "insufferably smug." But then you would know a thing or two about that."Jan 14 14:59
moogstrapheh. I'm sure you've already seen this one: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/revie...Jan 14 15:02
schestowitzTalking pointsJan 14 15:05
PetoKrausoh god:Jan 14 15:05
PetoKraushttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/amer...Jan 14 15:05
schestowitzI'm doing a post about this stuff ATMJan 14 15:05
schestowitzPetoKraus: he reached a new levelJan 14 15:06
PetoKrausyeahJan 14 15:06
twitterlove that pictureJan 14 15:06
schestowitzWill Microsoft reward him with XBox Live pts.?Jan 14 15:06
PetoKrausthis can happen only in USJan 14 15:06
twitterI wonder what his /. handle wasJan 14 15:07
moogstrapwtf. was he expecting his parents to respawn or something?Jan 14 15:07
twitterno, he expected them to dieJan 14 15:07
schestowitzHalo->InsanityJan 14 15:08
PetoKrausnahJan 14 15:08
twitterstories like that give new meaning to the death threats I getJan 14 15:08
PetoKraus9mm gun in a locker with kid addicted to shooting game -> insanityJan 14 15:08
twitterM$ -> InsanityJan 14 15:08
schestowitzGot examples?Jan 14 15:08
schestowitzYou should pass on examples to the secret servicesJan 14 15:08
twittersure, let me dig them upJan 14 15:08
schestowitzSome people can be 'mass threateners'. They need to become extinctJan 14 15:08
schestowitzYou know Microsoft's Kempin?Jan 14 15:09
schestowitzHe is the OEM chief (well, was)Jan 14 15:09
twitterhttp://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2...Jan 14 15:09
schestowitzHe got arrested for shooting animalsJan 14 15:09
schestowitzHe kills animals for lesisure.Jan 14 15:09
twitterhttp://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2...Jan 14 15:09
twitterhttp://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=...Jan 14 15:10
schestowitz"Regardless, it would cheaper for them to have you killed than spend good money on employing people to mod you down."Jan 14 15:10
schestowitzSeems like death wish, not death threatJan 14 15:10
twitterhttp://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid...Jan 14 15:10
twittera wish from the same agent is a threat.  I regard that troll account as one belonging to a M$ PR firm.Jan 14 15:11
schestowitzDeath wishesJan 14 15:12
schestowitzSome Microsoft lackeys get them tooJan 14 15:12
schestowitzI got many, but no list of links offhand.Jan 14 15:12
schestowitzPJ got actual threatsJan 14 15:12
schestowitzI did too, but I can't recall where to find themJan 14 15:12
twitteranonymous threats are actual threatsJan 14 15:12
twitterI understand that some pranksters do that kind of thing without understanding, but the target is unable to tell the difference.Jan 14 15:13
schestowitzhttp://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2... "Your a stupid asshole, please kill yourself, I hope my words cause you to ibiblio die have fun trying to prosecute me for murder, if I ever meet you face to face I WILL kill you, ibiblioin piece of shit."Jan 14 15:13
schestowitzSounds like he was drunk or something.Jan 14 15:14
trmancotomorrow is a big dayJan 14 15:14
schestowitz:-) A stoned Darl.Jan 14 15:14
trmancowait I'm confusedJan 14 15:14
twitterI don't get them anymore - the law changed a little.Jan 14 15:14
trmancodid microfoot already layoff those 15k employees ?Jan 14 15:15
twitterI collected some in the Troll Zoo.  http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/204737Jan 14 15:15
schestowitzMS Jack vs Swisher: "It appears that the pipe-smoking one has previously pissed off this Woman. I guess this time he can't call her a f*ckwit and remove her comments "Jan 14 15:15
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/bl... http://www.thestandard.com/news/2008/11/20/kar...Jan 14 15:15
schestowitzHehe, this is getting curiousJan 14 15:15
twittertoday looks like a big day too http://finance.google.com/finance down 2% alreadyJan 14 15:16
schestowitztrmanco: maybe tomorrowJan 14 15:16
trmancoyeah, so tomowrrow is a big day after allJan 14 15:16
trmancotomorrow*Jan 14 15:16
schestowitzIt's a interesting year. 1929+80Jan 14 15:16
twittermaybe not.  With M$'s stock price already less than $20, they don't dare.Jan 14 15:16
schestowitztrmanco: maybe around the same thing as the results (22nd, IIRC)Jan 14 15:17
schestowitzThey must tell investors that they cut costs somehowJan 14 15:17
schestowitzI'm doing a good post now. Can you proofread?Jan 14 15:17
twittersureJan 14 15:17
twitterI need to look at the news this morning anyhowJan 14 15:17
schestowitzPosted. Satyam, Wipro and Infosys go under regulatory artillery: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/14/fr...Jan 14 15:18

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