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How's that MS Office Native ODF Support Coming?

Shortly after the announcement of the Microsoft-Novell deal, Stafford Masie - Novell's Country Manager for South Africa, appeared at the Cape Initiative (CITI) conference, and then held a Question and Answer session afterward.

Some of Masie's statements provided important insight into Novell's motivations for entering the Linux business as well as the motivations for entering into agreement with Microsoft.

We could say that some of Masie's statements were prophetic, and some were pathetic. Here, we will check up on one statement Masie made, and try to decide which category it belongs in...

Rob Weir has a posting regarding his experiences with Microsoft's ODF Plugin, and suffice it to say it falls far short of "native support" and integration. Some notably disappointing aspects of the add-ins operation include the fact that all ODF files are imported to DOCX format to edit, and then must be explicitly saved as ODF (no Ctrl + S for you). Also, you cannot create an ODF file from scratch in MS Word - you must first save the file in a native MS format, then convert it to ODF.

Even more amazing are the fundamental ways in which the Microsoft-sponsored add-in fail in terms of Windows and Office integration:
First, we start by looking at the many ways in which documents are integrated into the Windows/Office platform. Any fluent user of this platform will use many of these capabilities on daily basis. These are basic features which have been around, in some cases, since Windows 3.0, maybe earlier.

Windows shell integration



1. Double-click on a document on the Desktop or in a folder and it loads into the appropriate application. Double-click on a Word document and it loads in Word. 2. Right-click in a folder and choose “New XXX” to create a new XXX document in the specified folder. So, "New...Microsoft Office Excel Worksheet" creates a new, blank Excel document. 3. Right-click on a document, choose Properties and on the Summary tab you can view metadata for that document. 4. Recently-edited documents appear in the “My Recent Documents” under the Start menu. 5. Documents referred to in web pages, via URL links will render in an inline Office session in the browser. 6. Documents are indexed by the Windows search engine.

Office integration



1. Ability to File/Open, File/Save and File/New a document via the familiar menu options. 2. Ability to set a file format as the default file format for the application. 3. Ability to use the familiar keyboard shortcuts, Control-O and Control-S to open and save documents. 4. Ability to forward a document to someone in an email and for them to be able to launch the a document by clicking on it when received via email. 5. Ability to password protect a document. 6. Ability to post a document to a web folder or to a SharePoint server

It must be noted that none of the above integration points are allowed by the ODF Add-in for Word, the much-touted translator for which Microsoft provides the, "Funding, Architectural & Technical Guidance and Project co-coordination".


So, it appears that there will be quite a bit of work needed for Stafford's vision of native ODF support in MS Office to be delivered by Microsoft. There was some talk of the DaVinci plugin and its providing of native support for ODF within Office, but I have yet to see the plugin available - and not too much in ways of announcements either. I would find it funny if an outside group was better able to deliver seamless ODF integration into Microsoft's own products, but then again - does anyone believe Microsoft truly wants native ODF support in Office, even if Novell does?

Of course, it still remains to be seen if this promise by Stafford Masie will indeed be kept by Novell, one that was echoed by Bruce Lowry as well. It should be noted that Groklaw immediately seized on the following from Novell's recent filing, which at least shows that Novell is considering all possible ramifications of their deal with Microsoft and the upcoming GPLv3:
Discussion Draft 3 includes a term intended to require Microsoft to make the same patent covenants that our customers receive to all recipients of the GPLv3 software included in our products. It also includes a license condition intended to preclude companies from entering into patent arrangements such as our agreement with Microsoft by prohibiting any company that has entered into such an arrangement from distributing GPLv3 code. This license condition does not apply to arrangements entered before March 28, 2007, so as currently proposed it would not apply to our agreement with Microsoft; however, the FSF specifically indicated that this “grandfathering” condition is tentative and may be dropped depending on feedback the FSF receives.

If the final version of GPLv3 contains terms or conditions that interfere with our agreement with Microsoft or our ability to distribute GPLv3 code, Microsoft may cease to distribute SUSE Linux coupons in order to avoid the extension of its patent covenants to a broader range of GPLv3 software recipients, we may need to modify our relationship with Microsoft under less advantageous terms than our current agreement, or we may be restricted in our ability to include GPLv3 code in our products, any of which could adversely affect our business and our operating results. In such a case, we would likely explore alternatives to remedy the conflict, but there is no assurance that we would be successful in these efforts.


Not a pretty picture, perhaps a stock buyback really is the only hope this management team has left for one last hurrah on the market. Otherwise, this may be the beginning of the end for Novell - either lose much of your contributed code base, or lose your #1 channel partner. Considering they seem to have already lost their soul, I bet they keep the channel partner.

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