EditorsAbout the SiteComes vs. MicrosoftUsing This Web SiteSite ArchivesCredibility IndexOOXMLOpenDocumentPatentsNovellNews DigestSite NewsRSS

09.05.08

Microsoft Shills Attack BoycottNovell

Posted in Deception, Microsoft, Novell, Site News at 9:26 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Another day, another smeary attempt to have people look away from this Web site. Who’s behind it? Not exactly an impartial party, but one that wishes to poison people’s minds.

We typically ignore such attacks, but this one is different because of the source of the smears. To be precise, a “Consultant (Techical Writer/SDET) at Microsoft,” according to his own description. Spreading unfounded attacks with accusations that are not even backed by evidence is nasty enough, never mind putting it up ‘for display’ (without permission!) and bemoaning replies to bait. For example, consider provocative questions such as this: “should vendors who sell Free software be banned from doing business with those who produce proprietary software?”

“You are being played here. This is the exact same stuff Microsoft Jack [1, 2] spouts regarding Apple. It’s from the same script. They are only trying to trip you up,” says one reader.

“It’s very important to keep track of where they come from (especially the affiliations at play).”Microsoft’s attacks against its critics needn’t necessarily be coordinated, but the issue is well documented [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]. Maureen O’Gara, a known Microsoft shill that attacks GNU/Linux at Microsoft’s request [1, 2], is just one example of those who operate either independently or at the monopolist’s behest.

BoycottNovell recently came under similar attacks from Bill Beebe (several in August), who supported Maureen O’Gara’s malicious spying on PJ (of Groklaw). Rebuttal here.

If you spot shoot-the-messenger attacks on us, please be sure to inform. It’s very important to keep track of where they come from (especially the affiliations at play).

Share this post: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Reddit
  • co.mments
  • DZone
  • email
  • Google Bookmarks
  • LinkedIn
  • NewsVine
  • Print
  • Technorati
  • TwitThis
  • Facebook

If you liked this post, consider subscribing to the RSS feed or join us now at the IRC channels.

Pages that cross-reference this one

11 Comments

  1. C.J. said,

    September 5, 2008 at 2:02 pm

    Gravatar

    —–BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE—–
    Hash: SHA1

    Hey there Roy,

    Thanks for the write-up. I’d love to have a rational conversation
    about this with you. However, you have shown a lack of interest in
    facilitating such a conversation (kick/banning from the channel,
    failing to provide a link to the chat log), so I’ll post a copy of
    this comment on my blog as well, since you’re probably not going to
    leave it up on yours.

    As I said here (http://xrl.us/oqdxm), I think that you’ve got good
    intentions. I’d like to know what you are working toward, though.
    What is the end goal? What would cause you to feel that your call to
    boycott has been successful? Without such a goal, it seems that your
    activism (which I support) is being done only to gain attention (which
    I do not support).

    In response to your above accusation that the claims (I assume you
    refer to the claim that you or your fellow channel members may have
    “spammed” irc.gimp.net’s #mono channel) were unfounded, I disagree.
    After receiving network abuse on the channel, the perpetrators from
    the mibbit.com domain were banned. It was found that some of your
    channel members hail from the same network:

    01:17 [freenode] -!- mib_e1zoms
    [i=41c7bd06@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b0e41913a3891c96]
    01:17 [freenode] -!- ircname : 65.199.189.6
    01:17 [freenode] -!- channels : #boycottnovell
    01:17 [freenode] -!- server : irc.freenode.net [http://freenode.net/]
    01:17 [freenode] -!- away : Auto away
    01:17 [freenode] -!- End of WHOIS

    This seems like more than a coincidence to me, however there are many
    folks on freenode from that network. *shrug*

    I note that although you mention in the topic of #boycottnovell that
    the channel content is logged publicly, you claim that I did not have
    permission to post the log. I consider the claim in your topic to be
    “permission” to log it publicly.

    18:54 [freenode] -!- Topic for #boycottnovell: Exploring the reality
    behind exclusionary deals
    with Microsoft and their subtle (yet severe) implications
    (publicly logged)

    To be clear of my affiliations, I have been a GNU/Linux user,
    developer, supporter and activist since 1994. I am one of the
    founding members of the IRC network on which you host your
    #boycottnovell channel. As it states in the kick/ban message, I
    contribute financially on a monthly basis to the PDPC, which
    administers the network:

    04:42 -!- mode/#boycottnovell [+b *!*@pdpc/supporter/monthlybronze/cj] by ChanServ
    04:42 -!- cj was kicked from #boycottnovell by ChanServ [Banned: Goodbye Astroturfer]

    I’ve contributed patches to the Mono codebase since 2003, Since 2006
    I’ve been maintaining a gtk+ widget that I’ve been using since 1999.
    I am working with Mirco Bauer to become a Debian Developer. During
    2004 and 2005, I volunteered my time organizing and speaking at the
    Seattle Perl Users’ Group. And yes, I am currently performing a
    contract at Microsoft in Redmond.

    I feel that this experience gives me a unique perspective on the
    relationship between Microsoft and the Open Source / Free Software
    world. As I said before, I agree that the relationship is not optimal
    in its current state. I agree that it needs some work. I’m willing
    to do that work, and I would appreciate any support that you and your
    friends can provide. If you aren’t interested in identifying or
    solving these problems, however, please don’t stand in the way of
    those who are.

    Sincerely,

    C.J. Adams-Collier
    0xBA27A83C
    —–BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE—–
    Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)

    iD8DBQFIwYIsXKBS0hdr6UYRAggDAKCCktJy+EMMlqAf3hsGKrIyNHPd9QCdFp37
    6hbxnAi0UegPkBt1y/ygVI0=
    =1z/L
    —–END PGP SIGNATURE—–

  2. Roy Schestowitz said,

    September 5, 2008 at 2:14 pm

    Gravatar

    I don’t delete comments and I did not kick you from the channel (someone else did while I was asleep and I disagree with that). Once again you use imagination to make accusations. Good luck to you in your endeavours.

  3. Victor Soliz said,

    September 5, 2008 at 3:15 pm

    Gravatar

    should vendors who sell Free software be banned from doing business with those who produce proprietary software?”

    Nope.

    But they should probably refrain from making FUD deals with intentions to rob users away from other Free Software vendors using fear as an advertisement and endorsing MS’ “Linux robs our IP” claims just because it -theorically- would give them the competitive edge. Novell’s conduct has been harmful to free software, they have not changed their ways, as a matter of fact they just recharged the deal just recently, unfortunately these issues will not go away simply for the fact some guys that are usually in boycottnovell’s channel also spam other channels…

    But really, MS employee? No thanks…

  4. Jose_X said,

    September 5, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    Gravatar

    So where is the link to the attacks?

  5. Roy Schestowitz said,

    September 5, 2008 at 6:43 pm

    Gravatar

    it’s in some other places like FSDaily, where sockpuppets like this one

    http://www.fsdaily.com/users/boycottboycottnovell.com

    are used to promote the smears.

  6. Steve Lance said,

    September 6, 2008 at 4:58 am

    Gravatar

    [i]“Spreading unfounded attacks with accusations that are not even backed by evidence is nasty enough, never mind putting it up ‘for display’ (without permission!) and bemoaning replies to bait.”[/i]

    This must sound familiar to you Roy.

  7. Needs Sunlight said,

    September 6, 2008 at 5:38 am

    Gravatar

    Hey. That last link might improve the story by being removed, it’s the one labeled “supported Maureen O’Gara’s malicious spying on PJ (of Groklaw)” It actually links *to* more O’Gara FUD. It’s bad to do that. It’s sure necessary to cite it and even provide a URL, but don’t validate it by giving it free publicity which it gets from being a hot link.

    O’Gara acted in a sleazy and small manner and used baseless accusations. Make your hot links point to pages where the issues are put under scrutiny:

    http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/linux/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=163104408

  8. Roy Schestowitz said,

    September 6, 2008 at 6:49 am

    Gravatar

    Good suggestion. I broke the Beebe link and replace it with another.

  9. stevetheFLY said,

    September 6, 2008 at 12:01 pm

    Gravatar

    heh; the no.1 hater and spammer complains that he das been ATTACKED! how droll. roy, your blog is the worst smear-campaign, and mutual wanking-site of self-righteous zealots that I’ve ever seen. don’t complain that somebody fucked you when show people your naked arse!

    Note: comment has been flagged for arriving from a possible incarnation of a known (eet), pseudonymous, forever-nymshifting, abusive Internet troll that posts from open proxies and relays around the world.

  10. Roy Schestowitz said,

    September 6, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    Gravatar

    Long time, no see, “eet”. If you dislike this site so much, why do you keep coming back to heckle?

  11. pcole said,

    September 7, 2008 at 2:51 pm

    Gravatar

    mib_e1zoms is the logon to mibbit irc chat I use. How the heck do you spam from the irc channel? This way I’ll do it and your spamming statement would be true. As of right now: You’re a LIAR CJ.

What Else is New


  1. EPO Board of Appeal Has an Opportunity to Stop Controversial Patents on Life

    Patent maximalism at the EPO can be pushed aback slightly if the European appeal board decides to curtail CRISPR patents in a matter of days



  2. Links 16/1/2018: More on Barcelona, OSI at 20

    Links for the day



  3. 2018 Will be an Even Worse Year for Software Patents Because the US Supreme Court Shields Alice

    The latest picks (reviewed cases) of the Supreme Court of the United States signal another year with little or no hope for the software patents lobby; PTAB too is expected to endure after a record-breaking year, in which it invalidated a lot of software patents that had been erroneously granted



  4. Patent Trolls (Euphemised as “Public IP Companies”) Are Dying in the United States, But the Trouble Isn't Over

    The demise of various types of patent trolls, including publicly-traded trolls, is good news; but we take stock of the latest developments in order to better assess the remaining threat



  5. EPO Management and Team UPC Carry on Lying About Unified Patent Court, Sinking to New Lows in the Process

    At a loss for words over the loss of the Unitary Patent, Team UPC and Team Battistelli now blatantly lie and even get together with professional liars such as Watchtroll



  6. China Tightens Its Knot of Restrictive Rules and Patents

    Overzealous patent aggressors and patent trolls in China, in addition to an explosion in low-quality patents, may simply discourage companies from doing production/manufacturing there



  7. Microsoft's Patent Racket Has Just Been Broadened to Threaten GNU/Linux Users Who Don't Pay Microsoft 'Rents'

    Microsoft revisits its aggressive patent strategy which it failed to properly implement 12 years ago with Novell; it wants to 'collect' a patent tax on GNU/Linux and it uses patent trolls to make that easier



  8. EPO Scandals Played a Considerable Role in Sinking the Unified Patent Court (UPC)

    Today's press coverage about the UPC reinforces the idea that the EPO saga, culminating in despicable attacks on Patrick Corcoran (a judge), may doom the UPC once and for all (unless one believes Team UPC)



  9. J Nicholas Gross Thinks Professors Stop Being Professors If They're Not Patent Extremists Like Him

    The below-the-belt tactics of patent trolls and their allies show no signs of abatement and their tone reveals growing irritation and frustration (inability to sue and extort companies as easily as they used to)



  10. The US Supreme Court Has Just Denied Another Chance to Deal With a Case Similar to Alice (Potentially Impacting § 101)

    There is no sign that software patents will be rendered worthwhile any time in the near future, but proponents of software patents don't give up



  11. Litigation Roundup: Nintendo, TiVo, Apple, Samsung, Huawei, Philips, UMC

    The latest high-profile legal battles, spanning a growing number of nations and increasingly representing a political shift as well



  12. Roundup of Patent News From Canada, South America and Australia

    A few bits and pieces of news from around the world, serving to highlight patent trends in parts of the world where the patent offices haven't much international clout/impact



  13. Links 15/1/2018: Linux 4.15 RC8, Wine 3.0 RC6

    Links for the day



  14. PTAB is Being Demeaned, But Only by the Very Entities One Ought to Expect (Because They Hate Patent Justice/Quality)

    The latest rants/scorn against PTAB -- leaning on cases such as Wi-Fi One v Broadcom or entities like Saint Regis Mohawk Tribe, Apple etc. -- are all coming from firms and people who profit from low-quality patents



  15. If Ericsson and Its Patent Trolls (Like Avanci and Unwired Planet) Cannot Make It, the Patent Microcosm Will Perish

    The demise of patent-asserting/patent assertion business models (trolling or enforcement by proxy) may see front groups/media supportive of it diminishing as well; this appears to be happening already



  16. European Patent Office Causes Physical Harm to Employees, Then Fires Them

    Another one (among many) EPO documents about the alarming physical wellbeing of EPO employees and the management’s attitude towards the issue



  17. Battistelli Was Always (Right From the Start and Since Candidacy) All About Money

    “I have always admired creative people, inventors, those who, through their passion and their work, bring about scientific progress or artistic evolution. I was not blessed with such talent myself,” explained the EPO‘s President when pursuing his current job (for which he was barely qualified and probably not eligible because of his political work)



  18. “Under the Intergovernmental EPC System It is Difficult to Speak of a Functional Separation of Powers”

    An illustration of the glaring deficiency that now prevails and cannot be tolerated as long as the goal is to ensure democratic functionality; absence of the role of Separation of Powers (or Rule of Law) at the EPO is evident now that Battistelli not only controls the Council (using EPO budget) but also blatantly attacks the independence of the Boards of Appeal



  19. The Patent Microcosm Thinks It's Wonderful That IP3 is Selling Stupid Patents, Ignores Far More Important News

    IP3, which we've always considered to be nothing but a parasite, does what it does best and those who love stupid patents consider it to be some sort of victory



  20. Automotives, Artificial Intelligence, Internet of Things and Industry 4.0 Among the Buzz Terms Used to Bypass Alice and the EPC Nowadays

    In order to make prior art search a lot harder and in order to make software patents look legitimate (even in various courtrooms) the patent microcosm and greedy patent offices embrace buzzwords



  21. Blockchain Becomes the Target Not Only of Financial Institutions With Software Patents But Also Trolls

    Blockchain software, which is growing in importance and has become ubiquitous in various domains other than finance, is perceived as an opportunity for disruption and also patent litigation; CNBC continues to publish puff pieces for Erich Spangenberg (amid stockpiling of such patents)



  22. EPC Foresaw the Administrative Council Overseeing the Patent Office, Jesper Kongstad Made It “Working Together”

    An old open letter from the EPO shows the famous moment when Jesper Kongstad and Battistelli came up with a plan to empower both, rendering the Administrative Council almost subservient to the Office (complete inversion of the desired topology)



  23. 2010: Blaming the Messenger (SUEPO) for Staff Unhappiness at the European Patent Office (EPO)

    Tactics of SUEPO (EPO union) blaming go further back than Battistelli and can be found in the previous administration as well



  24. 2010: Deterioration of Working Conditions (e.g. Office Space) for EPO Staff

    Old EPO proposals which suggested the reduction of office space for EPO staff (among other things) — something which later happened to DG3, following the ‘exile’ to Haar



  25. Budget at the EPO Decided Before Consultation

    An old consultation meeting (GAC) at the EPO coincided with a meeting (MAC) which is perceived as ignoring the actual consultation — something which clearly should not be happening



  26. Less Than Half a Year in the Job, Battistelli Already Disobeys/Disregards Rulings From ILO's Tribunal

    As EPO President, Battistelli shows poor comprehension or lack of respect for the rule of law just months after taking the job



  27. Only Half a Year in the Job, Battistelli Breaks EPO Nomination Rules

    oing back to the dawn of the Battistelli era, irregularities appear very early on



  28. Patent Troll Finjan Manages to Defend a Patent (on Appeal) and the Trolls' Lobby is Loving It

    Blue Coat (now owned by Symantec) has attempted — and failed — to invalidate all of Finjan’s patents using Section 101/Alice; those who are in the business of trolling view that as particularly good news because the judgment came from Timothy Dyk and Todd Hughes (much younger and appointed a few years ago)



  29. Top Rank at USPTO Goes to the Biggest Patent Bully, IBM

    With 2017 figures coming to light (and to the mainstream/corporate media), we scrutinise what has received the most attention and why it's detrimental to the reputation of the US patent system



  30. Dr. Derk Visser's Book About the European Patent Convention (EPC) Explains What Battistelli Has Done

    With quality of European Patents (EPs) and of EPO staff in rapid decline if not a freefall, we look back at the best-selling book from Visser, who warned that the Council/Organisation and the Office would "have other priorities than the role of law" if the Boards don't enjoy true independence (which they no longer do)


CoPilotCo

RSS 64x64RSS Feed: subscribe to the RSS feed for regular updates

Home iconSite Wiki: You can improve this site by helping the extension of the site's content

Home iconSite Home: Background about the site and some key features in the front page

Chat iconIRC Channel: Come and chat with us in real time

CoPilotCo

Recent Posts