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10.01.08

IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: September 26-29th, 2008

Posted in IRC Logs at 2:25 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

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neighborlee I just thought it was interesting ( though thread closed yes in 2/2008) , that this polll indicates that more ubuntu users want mono gone than want to keep it..I hadn’t realzed it had become that far removed from  a 50/50 split….but I suppose its still going to be there unless intrepid has changed something I am not aware of…I guess http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/mono-runtime < shows mono is still to be left in and that ‘o Sep 26 01:40
neighborlee pen source’ is still being applied as if it were the truth o_0 Sep 26 01:40
neighborlee https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+so… < and here it seems.,’directhex’ is saying though mono releases are slightly…unready..releases that need a HUGE # of patches, mono remains inside ubuntu..I wonder who is doing all these patches considering ubuntu makes very few upstream commits to other mainstream linux projects… Sep 26 01:41
neighborlee interesting Sep 26 01:41
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tessier http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/2… Sep 26 04:15
tessier You seen that one yet? Sep 26 04:15
neighborlee hm imagine that ;) Sep 26 04:25
neighborlee unclear docs err patent agreements…well we can trust they will do the right thing soon </sarcasm>hah…nice find ;) Sep 26 04:26
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benJIman Shane’s back :o Sep 26 06:46
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MinceR j0 Sep 26 09:02
schestowitz I’m off for a few days. I’ll be back some time next week. Sep 26 09:56
kentma1 hi Roy – have a good trip! Sep 26 10:40
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trmanco http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/64627.html Sep 26 14:59
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_Doug Acacia patents time division multiplexing .. Sep 26 15:27
_Doug http://ipcommunications.tmcnet.com/topics/ent… Sep 26 15:27
kentma1 that’s absurd – this is already standardised anyway Sep 26 15:28
_Doug Acacia patents remote control of printers .. Sep 26 15:29
_Doug http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?n… Sep 26 15:29
_Doug Infoglide patents aggregating search engine results with databases .. Sep 26 15:30
_Doug http://www.prweb.com/releases/2008/9/prweb1311814.htm Sep 26 15:30
_Doug IP Technology Services patent online search and comparison .. Sep 26 15:36
_Doug http://www.marketwatch.com/news/sto… Sep 26 15:36
_Doug I hereby patent moving bits around .. Sep 26 15:42
_Doug “Microsoft becomes high priest of secure software development” Sep 26 15:42
_Doug says article .. Sep 26 15:42
_Doug http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10042248-83.html Sep 26 15:42
_Doug Ballmer on search: we have to redefine the category .. “You don’t really brute force your way into any market,” Sep 26 15:44
_Doug http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10051743-56.html Sep 26 15:44
kentma1 it’s all a total and complete mess Sep 26 15:48
_Doug Novell releases compliance-management platform .. Sep 26 15:53
_Doug http://cr-bo-news.blogspot.com/2008/09/novell-re… Sep 26 15:53
_Doug Will it be as compliant as T-Max ? Sep 26 15:54
_Doug http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007… Sep 26 15:58
_Doug back later …. ZNOOZE … Sep 26 16:01
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trmanco http://lifehacker.com/5055282/evolution-b… Sep 26 17:41
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trmanco http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/compromise.html Sep 26 19:46
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trmanco http://www.computerworld.com/action/a… Sep 26 22:13
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ReverseGTR whos gonna be Uhmericas next presadent? Sep 27 03:38
ReverseGTR oops I meant prezadent Sep 27 03:39
ReverseGTR but seriously, who here has watched the debates? Sep 27 03:39
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Tallken hi Sep 27 09:35
Tallken cya :) Sep 27 09:39
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MinceR geekings Sep 27 13:55
MinceR http://entertainment.slashdot.org/artic… Sep 27 14:38
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_Doug ? Sep 27 15:22
_Doug Darl to earth .. Sep 27 15:23
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Tallken hi there Sep 27 23:56
ZiggyFish hey Sep 27 23:56
Tallken hey, one person alive! Sep 27 23:56
Tallken you new here? Sep 27 23:57
ZiggyFish nope, you? Sep 27 23:57
Tallken don’t remember your nick lol Sep 27 23:57
Tallken been a few days since I’ve been here Sep 27 23:58
Tallken but not new Sep 27 23:58
ZiggyFish yeah, same Sep 27 23:58
Tallken anyway, thought the new author in the blog would be here as wekk Sep 28 00:08
Tallken seems I was wrong Sep 28 00:08
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Tallken cya later Sep 28 00:31
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MinceR gn Sep 28 00:35
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MinceR hay Sep 28 09:15
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trmanco http://efytimes.com/efytimes/fullnewsx… Sep 28 11:20
trmanco http://www.itwire.com/content/view/20861/1141/ ->100 reasons Linux beats Windows Sep 28 11:24
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MinceR how can a novell employee be a “respected linux hacker”? Sep 28 11:34
MinceR perhaps “formerly respected” Sep 28 11:35
_Doug who ? Sep 28 11:44
_Doug Greg Kroah-Hartman ? Sep 28 11:45
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trmanco yes Sep 28 11:53
trmanco http://efytimes.com/efytimes/fullnewsxml.asp?edid=29165 Sep 28 11:53
_Doug “Think you’re secure because you passed your Payment Card Industry Data Security Standard (PCI DSS) annual assessment?” Sep 28 12:15
_Doug “Download this insightful white paper, presented by VeriSign and Computerworld, to help you choose the right QSA for your needs” Sep 28 12:15
_Doug Just because you passed the PCI DSS don’t mean anything in terms of security .. Sep 28 12:15
_Doug It’s just a bunch of forms :) Sep 28 12:15
_Doug Download Portable Ubuntu .. Sep 28 12:20
_Doug http://yatsite.blogspot.com/2008/09/ru… Sep 28 12:20
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twitter Sweaty B smiles on Portable Ubuntu and other captured GNU/Linux – he thinks M$ has outsmarted free software that way. Sep 28 15:19
twitter Live CDs are better.  Windows people are used to rebooting all the time anyway. Sep 28 15:20
twitter Sooner or later, M$ breaks everything on their platform. Sep 28 15:22
MinceR how exactly does that count as outsmarting? Sep 28 15:27
twitter His idea was to make all free software run well on Windows so that no one needs GNU/Linux. Sep 28 15:36
twitter It puts free software under the M$ tax and control. Sep 28 15:37
twitter If what the article says about flash not running well, performance sucks too. Sep 28 15:38
twitter There’s also the waste of developer time and mind share.  Every developer that spends time Windows porting is a developer that is spending time supporting the Windows monopoly. Sep 28 15:39
twitter A better solution is to run the one or two Windoze applications you might actually need under Wine.  That way you get as much freedom and performance as you can. Sep 28 15:41
twitter Sweaty Ballmer would love for everyone to think GNU/Linux is a poorly performing toy that you don’t really need. Sep 28 15:44
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MinceR SweatyB’s forgetting that once people realize that they’re running all their apps on linux they don’t need windows anymore Sep 28 16:26
_Doug Venezuela Purchases a Million Intel Classmates .. Sep 28 17:03
_Doug http://mobile.slashdot.org/a… Sep 28 17:03
_Doug Notice all the native português beating up on the project .. :) Sep 28 17:04
_Doug “As a Portuguese, I’m ashamed” Sep 28 17:04
_Doug “As a Portuguese .. these Magellan computers .. are nothing but a huge scam” Sep 28 17:05
_Doug “I’m from Portugal and all over the media you hear everyday everywhere” Sep 28 17:06
_Doug “his [Chavez] socialist stance probably has something to do with his choosing an open source OS” Sep 28 17:07
_Doug “It’s strange how Linux gets easily picked up by leftists” Sep 28 17:08
_Doug It’s odd that all these native português can’t read their own language :) Sep 28 17:10
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trmanco _Doug, no sign on Linux on those classmates Sep 28 17:39
trmanco nobody mentions Linux Sep 28 17:39
trmanco even tho it comes installed Sep 28 17:39
trmanco http://www.fnac.pt/pt/Catalog/Detail.as… Sep 28 17:44
trmanco they don’t mention Linux Sep 28 17:44
MinceR /. says Venezuela ordered them with linux Sep 28 17:49
MinceR http://mobile.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=0… Sep 28 17:49
_Doug http://ciberia.aeiou.pt/?st=10098 Sep 28 17:50
_Doug http://www.eescolinha.gov.pt/equipamento.html Sep 28 17:51
_Doug a variation of Mandriva ? Sep 28 17:51
_Doug time to go .. Sep 28 17:55
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trmanco yes it is a variation of mandriva Sep 28 17:56
trmanco I think Sep 28 17:56
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PetoKraus right Sep 29 07:59
PetoKraus so after a week Sep 29 07:59
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_Doug_ “The Microsoft Corporation has formed an alliance with the USAID to provide the Ministry of Education with critical information and communication tools to help it gather more broad and accurate data in the education sector, to facilitate easy policy formulation and implementation.” Sep 29 14:02
_Doug_ “Through global philanthropic efforts, Microsoft has for the last several years been investing vast amounts of money in bringing computer power to the less privileged parts of the world, believing that access to vital ICT tools can unlock immense, transformative potential in societies.” Sep 29 14:02
_Doug_ http://www.monitor.co.ug/artman/publish/b… Sep 29 14:03
twitter M$ policy formation, “buy our software and do as we say,” what could be hard about that? Sep 29 14:24
twitter Oh yeah, keeping people from projects like OLPC, that’s hard. Sep 29 14:24
twitter There’s no charity in M$. Sep 29 14:25
_Doug_ What exactly is this USAID deal supposed to do. I mean they have their own education sector with their own IT expertise. Sep 29 14:27
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PetoKraus hehe, finally a good customer service Sep 29 14:53
PetoKraus i sent my koss ksc9 for repair – they’ve got unlimited warranty, you just pay for shipping Sep 29 14:53
PetoKraus so, for £3.50 i got brand new headphones worth £11.50 Sep 29 14:53
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zoobab Roy is back? Sep 29 16:20
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brunomiguel hello Sep 29 17:34
brunomiguel Steve ‘ogre’ ballmer is in Portugal. A sad day to my country: http://translate.google.pt/translate… Sep 29 17:35
brunomiguel trmanco: viva :) Sep 29 17:44
trmanco elah Sep 29 17:45
trmanco o schestowitz está away a uns valentes dias Sep 29 17:45
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_Doug Microsoft sues over ‘scareware’ pop-up ads .. Sep 29 18:18
_Doug http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_… Sep 29 18:18
_Doug “To protect themselves against these and other threats, computer users should keep their operating system, antivirus, firewall and antispyware software updated, Microsoft said” Sep 29 18:18
_Doug “Open source is not an easy solution” Sep 29 18:23
_Doug http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_… Sep 29 18:23
_Doug “I’m obviously a big fan of open source, and believe it offers an exceptional way to distribute and develop software, but there’s not One Way to use open source” Sep 29 18:23
_Doug “Matt Asay has been involved with open source since 1998 .. Prior to Alfresco, Asay co-founded Novell®’s Linux Business Office in 2002″ Sep 29 18:26
_Doug http://www.alfresco.com/about/people/all/ Sep 29 18:26
_Doug Rob Enderle :: Open Source does not assure quality .. Sep 29 18:31
_Doug http://www.itbusinessedge.com/blogs… Sep 29 18:31
_Doug “The result of the column was that I received threats on my job and even my life” Sep 29 18:32
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_Doug “I just got off a flight to Germany where the entertainment system was crashing every other hour and watched folks blame the crashes on Windows, even though the actual platform was Red Hat Linux” Sep 29 18:33
_Doug Would anyone care to email Rob and get some coroberating evidence ? Sep 29 18:33
_Doug Steal_Everything: steal what exactly ? Sep 29 18:37
_Doug ping ‘Steal_Everything’ ……………………………………….. Sep 29 18:40
_Doug “Wall Street firms increasingly are buying into Linux” Sep 29 18:41
_Doug http://www.cio.com/article/396163/Wall_Str… Sep 29 18:41
_Doug Steal_Everything: steal what exactly ?? Sep 29 18:43
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_Doug AVRS2: do you want to steal everything too :) Sep 29 18:45
AVRS2 Sorry, I’ve got disconnected from the Microsoft VPN. Sep 29 18:47
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_Doug I ask in relation to the user name ‘Steal_Everything’ Sep 29 18:48
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_Doug Steal_Everything: steal what exactly ?? Sep 29 18:48
_Doug Newbies and Linux Distros .. Sep 29 18:49
_Doug http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/37… Sep 29 18:49
AVRS Ah, is “AVRS” similar to “Everything”? Sep 29 18:49
AVRS Or just because I’ve just rejoined? Sep 29 18:49
_Doug No, I am curious as to the reason for such an alias, is he imnplying that we all steal ? Sep 29 18:50
_Doug implying Sep 29 18:50
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_Doug peoples choice of nicks are always interesting .. Sep 29 18:51
_Doug “has the penguin got the power?” Sep 29 18:51
_Doug http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-te… Sep 29 18:51
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tessier_ Hello all Sep 29 18:52
_Doug This from the Independent life-style section .. Sep 29 18:52
AVRS I have once seen a user on Wikipedia with “This user supports free software” (in Russian, so it doesn’t linguistically equal to freeware!) and “This user uses MSIE”, Windows, MSN etc crap userboxes… it turned out that he thought it was about freewares. Sep 29 18:52
tessier_ I’m writing something for a friend about Microsoft’s sins in the OOXML debacle. Sep 29 18:52
_Doug Hi there tessier .. Sep 29 18:53
tessier_ Anyone have a good reference for how Microsoft prevented the ODF people from entering the room at one point? Sep 29 18:53
tessier_ I think they may have paid people to fill up the room or something like that, I don’t recall. Sep 29 18:53
tessier_ I just know there were shenanigans to keep the ODF people from making the meeting. Sep 29 18:53
_Doug bye .. gotta go steal something ;) Sep 29 18:57
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tessier_ And I could swear that just in the last day or two I saw an article about how MS refuses to document its stuff… Sep 29 19:04
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