12.29.08
Microsoft and Cronies Create Another EU Lobby at Taxpayers’ Expense?
Theatre of cronyism
The following is a conversation from IRC that we haven’t time to summarise properly. Do not take it at face value (we have not the time to validate), but some observations are factual.
| eupho | http://www.publictechnology.net/modul… | Dec 29 08:16 |
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| eupho | Jean-Philippe Courtois becomes “ambassador” for the EYCI 2009. | Dec 29 08:17 |
| eupho | with compTIA they lobbied for the “year”. | Dec 29 08:17 |
| schestowitz | Hey | Dec 29 08:17 |
| schestowitz | Let me see… | Dec 29 08:17 |
| eupho | Commissioner Figel seems to be their buddy | Dec 29 08:18 |
| schestowitz | Who’s that? | Dec 29 08:19 |
| eupho | http://www.create2009.europa.eu/ambas… | Dec 29 08:19 |
| schestowitz | Let’s see. | Dec 29 08:19 |
| eupho | I wonder who elected a monopolist | Dec 29 08:19 |
| schestowitz | Stacking? | Dec 29 08:20 |
| eupho | Courtois is the Microsoft EMEA chief salesman | Dec 29 08:20 |
| schestowitz | So wait.. what is his role now? I’m still read it. | Dec 29 08:20 |
| schestowitz | “Jean-Philippe Courtois (FR), President, Microsoft International” | Dec 29 08:21 |
| eupho | I assume the EYCI is a lobby project of hugo Lueders | Dec 29 08:21 |
| eupho | Creativity and Innovation == Software patenting | Dec 29 08:21 |
| schestowitz | What doe it target? | Dec 29 08:21 |
| schestowitz | Oh | Dec 29 08:21 |
| schestowitz | Of course. | Dec 29 08:21 |
| schestowitz | “Innovation” | Dec 29 08:21 |
| schestowitz | Like the fake “VoicesForInnovation” site | Dec 29 08:21 |
| eupho | It is a blabla buzz event | Dec 29 08:21 |
| eupho | but funded by EU money | Dec 29 08:21 |
| schestowitz | Created by Microsoft… for the ‘community’ | Dec 29 08:21 |
| eupho | some political bullshit process, cmp. also the Lisbon agenda | Dec 29 08:22 |
| eupho | Lisbon = “EU for innovation” | Dec 29 08:22 |
| eupho | and competitiveness | Dec 29 08:22 |
| schestowitz | How did you find out? | Dec 29 08:23 |
| eupho | it’s on the web | Dec 29 08:27 |
| eupho | your MEP could ask a nasty question | Dec 29 08:27 |
| eupho | http://www.europarl.europa.eu/members.do | Dec 29 08:28 |
| eupho | http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleasesAc… | Dec 29 08:29 |
| eupho | How: that Lueders is behind? | Dec 29 08:29 |
| schestowitz | I’ll need to study this a bit, then post the conclusions. | Dec 29 08:29 |
| eupho | simple, listen to him | Dec 29 08:29 |
| schestowitz | I heard of him before. | Dec 29 08:29 |
| eupho | When he is not in evil anti-standards, pro-patent mode he talks about “eskills” | Dec 29 08:30 |
| eupho | and “us” and “our need” to “show leadership” and become more competivee | Dec 29 08:31 |
| eupho | in the field of education | Dec 29 08:31 |
| schestowitz | More competitive… | Dec 29 08:31 |
| schestowitz | Sounds like ACT/ATL | Dec 29 08:31 |
| eupho | ACT is a fly-in, Lueders is the European ground worker and CompTIA also has a certification branch | Dec 29 08:32 |
| eupho | http://www.techworld.com/applications/news/in… | Dec 29 08:32 |
| schestowitz | I see… | Dec 29 08:32 |
| schestowitz | Oh, I saw that article many times. | Dec 29 08:33 |
| eupho | Politically uncorrect: Figel is a Commissioner with a “women job”, no one takes him serious | Dec 29 08:34 |
| eupho | A Commissioner for every member state | Dec 29 08:35 |
| eupho | Some overlap. Figel is just a figurehead. | Dec 29 08:37 |
| schestowitz | I’d need to catch up with who is who here. | Dec 29 08:37 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for drawing it up | Dec 29 08:38 |
| eupho | Commissioner for Education, Culture, and Multilingualism | Dec 29 08:38 |
| eupho | http://www.vrwb.be/MFiles/figel1.pdf | Dec 29 08:39 |
| eupho |  |
Dec 29 08:39 |
| schestowitz | Thanks! | Dec 29 08:39 |
| eupho | http://www.ebsummit.eu/programme/speak… | Dec 29 08:39 |
| schestowitz | It looks like the corruptible ones stand out | Dec 29 08:39 |
| eupho | http://www.microsoft.com/france/imagine-c… | Dec 29 08:39 |
| schestowitz | It’s hard for the public to know without entering the “public arena”, which is just what they want | Dec 29 08:39 |
| schestowitz | I see… | Dec 29 08:40 |
| schestowitz | So how is Figel connected to it again? | Dec 29 08:40 |
| schestowitz | I’ll use this log as notes later on when I write about it | Dec 29 08:40 |
| eupho | http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=es-… | Dec 29 08:40 |
| eupho | Microsoft via Lueders “adopted” Jan Figel as their Commissioner. | Dec 29 08:41 |
| schestowitz | Looks like quite a crony type | Dec 29 08:42 |
| eupho | because no one else is interested in what he has to say | Dec 29 08:42 |
| schestowitz | I see.. | Dec 29 08:42 |
| schestowitz | How confident are you? | Dec 29 08:42 |
| eupho | Look at any Microsoft branded as Microsoft event and look whom they invite | Dec 29 08:43 |
| schestowitz | How much do you know about Charlie McCreevy and Microsoft? | Dec 29 08:44 |
| schestowitz | Is there a connection you are aware of? | Dec 29 08:44 |
| schestowitz | I already know the Sarko connection. | Dec 29 08:44 |
| eupho | McCreevy is powerful. | Dec 29 08:46 |
| schestowitz | Like a chainsaw | Dec 29 08:46 |
| eupho | Courtois and Figel, when you see them on stage it looks like they are brothers. | Dec 29 08:46 |
| eupho | http://www.smeday.com/2008/sme… | Dec 29 08:48 |
| schestowitz | SME Day | Dec 29 08:49 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* | Dec 29 08:49 |
| schestowitz | The ACT thing with Microsoft ‘hosting’ IIRC | Dec 29 08:49 |
| eupho | + European! | Dec 29 08:49 |
| eupho | A Microsoft sales guy meeting with some young entrepreneur buzz | Dec 29 08:49 |
| schestowitz | Which entrepreneur buzz? | Dec 29 08:50 |
| eupho | what can WE do to forster investment and make capital available to start ups | Dec 29 08:50 |
| schestowitz | What’s funny is that “Small and Medium-sized business day” is organised by monopolists | Dec 29 08:50 |
| eupho | A bit ironic when it is hosted by Microsoft which has a lot of cash for investment | Dec 29 08:50 |
| schestowitz | It’s a bit like parents who set up a birthday for a 5-year-old | Dec 29 08:50 |
| eupho | Yes. | Dec 29 08:50 |
| schestowitz | It’s no isolated thing. | Dec 29 08:51 |
| schestowitz | They steal voices that way | Dec 29 08:51 |
| schestowitz | I used many examples to show this before. | Dec 29 08:51 |
| eupho | And of course capital conditions, you try to use the young naive entrepreneurs and built your own sock puppets aarmy | Dec 29 08:51 |
| eupho | army | Dec 29 08:51 |
| eupho | Long term, low key | Dec 29 08:51 |
| schestowitz | Yes, like letters from the dead. | Dec 29 08:52 |
| eupho | Oh, Peter Jungen!? | Dec 29 08:52 |
| schestowitz | Who’s that? | Dec 29 08:52 |
| eupho | Peter Jungen is, German?!, looks like 75, and talks cold war rhetorics with an SME falvour | Dec 29 08:53 |
| eupho | He is somewhat connected with the SME Union of the conservatives | Dec 29 08:53 |
| schestowitz | How do you know all this? | Dec 29 08:54 |
| eupho | A political capitalism ideologist and activist without a home base. | Dec 29 08:54 |
| eupho | The EU is funny, you just need to watch and follow it. | Dec 29 08:56 |
| eupho | JTAG Tech is a company that innovates with an eye towards user friendliness,” says eeProductCenter’s Alex Mendelsohn. “In this case, the portal towards ease of use is Microsoft Windows. This tool can help implement boundary-scan testing at the board-level or system-level as well as support board-to-board testing. | Dec 29 08:56 |
| eupho | http://www.epistep.org/artemis/docs/E… | Dec 29 08:57 |
| schestowitz | JTAG…. | Dec 29 08:57 |
| schestowitz | Didn’t they also get or harass with patents? | Dec 29 08:58 |
| eupho | EU + Microsoft == real entertainment. | Dec 29 08:58 |
| schestowitz | Same in the UK | Dec 29 08:58 |
| schestowitz | BillG + B’liar = real blast | Dec 29 08:58 |
| schestowitz | The lawyers talk with influence; Microsoft talks with cash | Dec 29 08:59 |
| schestowitz | They are a match made in heaven. | Dec 29 08:59 |
| eupho | The whole lobby theater works because no one is watching. | Dec 29 08:59 |
| eupho | But it is real fun. | Dec 29 08:59 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I know | Dec 29 09:01 |
| schestowitz | There are wise words to be said about keeping people uninterested | Dec 29 09:01 |
| eupho | Jungen was about to be fired by the Christian democrats for his late release of a Cologne financial report fo | Dec 29 09:01 |
| schestowitz | Keeping them at work 9-5 and then letting them become TV zombies. | Dec 29 09:01 |
| schestowitz | They don’t have time or desire to research this, which is exactly what the cronies require. | Dec 29 09:01 |
| eupho | The internet is the next television. Microsoft-EU the next soap opera, looks like SCO-IBMis over now | Dec 29 09:02 |
| schestowitz | Yes, it is | Dec 29 09:02 |
| schestowitz | Groklaw is taking a break | Dec 29 09:02 |
| schestowitz | Patents are the next “Linux stole our code” | Dec 29 09:02 |
| schestowitz | And Novell is the tool for achieving the FUD. | Dec 29 09:03 |
| schestowitz | India too has its share of manipulation for patents | Dec 29 09:03 |
| schestowitz | Some Microsoft lackeys seem to have gotten their hands on the spigot. They push software patents. | Dec 29 09:03 |
| eupho | http://www.european-enterprise.org… | Dec 29 09:05 |
| schestowitz | That said, I have not seen any Indian articles about patents recently. Quiet is no indication of things getting better; it just means that the bad guys have more room for maneuver. | Dec 29 09:05 |
| eupho | Pushing for software patents in foreign jurisdictions is one thing. | Dec 29 09:05 |
| eupho | Penetration of the political class another | Dec 29 09:05 |
| schestowitz | Whose group is this? | Dec 29 09:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.european-enterprise.or… “The price of an annual Corporate Gold Membership is EUR 20,000 + “ | Dec 29 09:06 |
| schestowitz | Lobby for sale. | Dec 29 09:06 |
| schestowitz | Buy you law now… at a discount. | Dec 29 09:06 |
| schestowitz | EEI | Dec 29 09:07 |
| schestowitz | Like IEE in reverse | Dec 29 09:07 |
| eupho | Peter Jungen in the board… | Dec 29 09:07 |
| eupho | these guys are not powerful, more like Vampires. No light-resistance. | Dec 29 09:08 |
| eupho | E.g. Jungen also fights for tax reform. | Dec 29 09:09 |
| eupho | and calls the progressive income tax ‘marxist’. | Dec 29 09:09 |
| schestowitz | What is he pushing for? | Dec 29 09:12 |
| schestowitz | McCreecy did it as well. | Dec 29 09:12 |
| schestowitz | It benefits Microsoft. | Dec 29 09:12 |
| schestowitz | I wrote about it in http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/22/micr… | Dec 29 09:13 |
| eupho | http://www.euractiv.com/en/innovation/europe-de… | Dec 29 09:14 |
| *schestowitz looks | Dec 29 09:18 | |
| schestowitz | I hate this site | Dec 29 09:18 |
| schestowitz | Very pro-patents | Dec 29 09:18 |
| schestowitz | “EU Education Commissioner Ján Figel’ ” | Dec 29 09:19 |
| schestowitz | The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. | Dec 29 09:19 |
| schestowitz | “Europe desperately lacking ‘positive entrepreneurship culture’ “ | Dec 29 09:19 |
| schestowitz | Translation: Europe is broken; save Europe; Listen to *THAT* guy | Dec 29 09:20 |
| schestowitz | “However, this approach was challenged by the chair of the Finnish software entrepreneurs’ association (Ohjelmistoyrittäjät) and CEO of Digium, Matti Heikkonen. He said entrepreneurship is not an educational issue. “ | Dec 29 09:20 |
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