SOME moments ago, as the log at the bottom shows, we found out that Mandriva had removed Beagle from the latest version of its GNU/Linux distribution (one of my favourite distributions). This is encouraging news which comes right after Ubuntu's removal of F-Spot and Fedora's removal of Mono as a whole. Two years ago we warned Mandriva that it had created an unnecessary Mono dependency in OpenOffice.org and Mandriva responded by fixing it.
“This is encouraging news which comes right after Ubuntu's removal of F-Spot and Fedora’s removal of Mono as a whole.”Mono dependents are fine, but probably not in a default installation of a GNU/Linux distribution.
The good news is that, as time goes by, GNU/Linux is advancing in many areas and vendors that sold out to Microsoft (decided to pay Microsoft for Linux, unlike Mandriva) are going extinct. Novell will probably be sold shortly and Xandros (which includes Linspire) is hardly ever mentioned in the news anymore. Presto is mentioned here and Xandros is mentioned here, but it's more of an historical mention. ⬆
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Mandriva is moving away from Mono a bit | May 25 07:43 |
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| schestowitz | How so? | May 25 07:44 |
| DaemonFC | 2010.1 will replace Beagle with Tracker | May 25 07:44 |
| schestowitz | Nice | May 25 07:44 |
| schestowitz | Good proof? | May 25 07:44 |
| DaemonFC | yes | May 25 07:44 |
| schestowitz | Page/screenshot? | May 25 07:44 |
| schestowitz | Just in case | May 25 07:44 |
| DaemonFC | http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2010.1_RC | May 25 07:44 |
| Techrights | Title: 2010.1 RC - Mandriva Community Wiki .::. Size~: 61.51 KB | May 25 07:44 |
| schestowitz | I want to verify to avoid mikstakes | May 25 07:44 |
| DaemonFC | Tracker is now replacing Beagle as document search engine. | May 25 07:44 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: thanks | May 25 07:44 |
| schestowitz | what mono is left in it then? | May 25 07:44 |
| DaemonFC | the runtime itself and F-Spot I believe | May 25 07:45 |
| schestowitz | no tomboy/gnote? | May 25 07:45 |
| DaemonFC | oh, forgot about that | May 25 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | doesn't say anything about getting rid of Tomboy, 2010 had it | May 25 07:46 |
| DaemonFC | Beagle uses a hell of a lot of resources though | May 25 07:46 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[nsisodiya] Now searching for a girl assistant for various task at my company. btw operation was successful and I am OK. | May 25 07:47 | |
| DaemonFC | it's not uncommon for it to sit there and take 80 MB of RAM just for itself while indexing | May 25 07:47 |
| DaemonFC | Tracker usually takes more like 30 | May 25 07:47 |
| DaemonFC | those little mono applets here and there gang up on you, take up way more resources than they're worth | May 25 07:48 |
| DaemonFC | Tomboy takes about double the memory of Gnote | May 25 07:48 |
| schestowitz | Recoll took gigabytes | May 25 07:49 |
| schestowitz | The index | May 25 07:49 |
| schestowitz | Not the program | May 25 07:49 |
| schestowitz | For my home dir | May 25 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | I have to wonder what the hell these distributions are thinking when they needlessly pile these things on | May 25 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | makes it useless on older PCs with less than 1 GB of RAM | May 25 07:49 |
| DaemonFC | and while there are equivalent programs that use half the memory all over the place | May 25 07:50 |
| DaemonFC | Beagle is like WinFS for Linux | May 25 07:53 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] With multiple patents, stronger patent rights can have the perverse effect of stifling, not encouraging, innovation http://ur1.ca/038r1 | May 25 07:55 | |
| Techrights | Title: Fast forward >> - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 37.78 KB | May 25 07:55 |
| DaemonFC | hmmm, Indiana University isn't mirroring the RC | May 25 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | nor is Purdue | May 25 07:56 |
| DaemonFC | those have always been the fastest mirrors for me :P | May 25 07:57 |
| *Diablo-D3 (~diablo@pool-64-222-232-11.port.east.myfairpoint.net) has joined #boycottnovell | May 25 07:57 | |
| MinceR | beagle isn't like winfs for linux. beagle actually exists. | May 25 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: part of WinFS ended up in Windows 7 | May 25 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | as "libraries" | May 25 07:57 |
| DaemonFC | more irritating than helpful | May 25 07:58 |
| MinceR | that describes m$ products in general | May 25 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | "You can't save here you idiot!" | May 25 07:58 |
| DaemonFC | :D | May 25 07:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Absolute power has corrupted the MPEG-LA absolutely http://ur1.ca/031fu | May 25 07:59 | |
| Techrights | Title: Nero Files Antitrust Case Against MPEG-LA .::. Size~: 30.37 KB | May 25 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | so they end up making you scroll through C:\Users\<user name>\My Music for example | May 25 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | you can't just click Music and Save | May 25 07:59 |
| DaemonFC | so I redid it all so that the actual folders are in my favorites | May 25 07:59 |
| schestowitz | Let me see, hold on.... | May 25 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | and it ends up "My Documents" "My Music" My Pictures" etc. on top of "Music" "Documents" "Pictures" | May 25 08:00 |
| DaemonFC | still aggravating and no way to turn it off | May 25 08:00 |