"Move over, Perens and Stallman.
Former Softies Know the GPLv3 better than you do." (Sarcasm)
It increasingly seems like Microsoft gains great influence inside the open source universe. It does not work for the better and Michael Tiemann (shown on the right) expressed his concerns about OpenLogic just a few days ago.
Dana Blankenhorn, just like Glyn Moody, draws his conclusion about GPLv3 (as posted in his blog) based on the word of a former Microsoft employee: Black Duck. Blankenhorn pessimistically concludes with the headline: "GPL divide still lives, one year on". Didn't we hear a similar tune in ACT's response to Boycott Novell just a few days ago? ACT is a Microsoft pressure group that viciously battled GPLv3. It bothered to speak back to this Web site. How come?
Moving on (or back again) to OpenLogic, here are some interesting insights from Don Marti.
But people don't run popularity contest applications on production machines. So, as much commentary as the OMG WTF M$ WANTS YOUR INSTALLED SOFTWARE LIST thread has gotten, it looks like a waste of the company's money.
oiic-formation-discuss
. We wrote about some findings yesterday and reached a dead end pretty much. Latest reports from a reader of ours who investigates this:
http://www.manta.com/coms2/dnbcompany_g0w5wj
Year Started:1995
ok so this company was started in 1995. by Olivia Edwards
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http://msnmoney.brand.edgar-online.com/EFX_dll/ED...
Because both Cisco and Microsoft are key strategic partners of TransNet, and we have successful practices with both, including an established and loyal base of customers in both markets,
[...]
http://www.secinfo.com/dRsft.aa.htm
well cant get any link...
this is a old battle with gary edward.
http://consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20071109070012244
nothing turned up on Olivia Edwards - atleast on the internet.
Let me make his point shorter for him: he doesn't want this project to go forward so fast. He'd like it to slow down. Why ever might that be?
"1. An immediate moratorium be declared on further decisions in regard > to the work product of this formation group while the chair conducts a > discussion of short-term steps to improve the situation.;"
Etc. Set up committees. Discuss process. Anything to slow this down.
There is, I hope, an outside limit to how much he will be allowed to disrupt and block progress, because that is how I view it.
I suggest that there be some rule about threats of lawsuits being grounds for exclusion from the discussion. I'd like a rule folks are not allowed to insult and demean other people either, but that's probably too much to hope for.
Some of us have been around this track before.
Comments
Glyn Moody
2008-06-20 16:31:41
That will teach me not to use subtlety in blog posts....
Roy Schestowitz
2008-06-20 17:05:58
Yes, I know, I saw that (and wrote about it yesterday). But the observation is that people are basing their judgment on one particular company that I do not think is worth trusting (and not just because it's a tracker/scanner where the business model is purely proprietary, but also because of relations).
Glyn Moody
2008-06-20 17:51:27
Certainly, though, it would be good to have a community effort counting the licence usage - and presumably not that hard to set up.
Roy Schestowitz
2008-06-20 17:59:07
I'm not trying to cause trouble, but I look ahead and I also look at previous incidents that revolve around Black Duck. I wrote about a few of them in previous posts.
I presume you missed the story about Black Duck stealing 'their' database from Palamida. ;-)
Remember that some people really really wanted to characterise the MySQL, Trolltech and XenSource acquisitions as a good thing. We must always look ahead. I'm going to write an important post over the weekend. It's the GPL that's under attack, and not just by Microsoft and Novell. GPLv3 is just a natural persistence, but some prefer to curtail it because of the loopholes.
Glyn Moody
2008-06-20 18:32:26
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-9804708-16.html
It's hard for outsiders to tell who's doing what; the important thing is to observe and judge on their continuing actions.
I look forward to your post...
Roy Schestowitz
2008-06-20 18:40:25
Ah! Thanks for the pointer. It's pretty much as I remember it, but I saw some different blogs where Black Duck tried to defend itself. It sounded different when you heard Palamida's side.
About that future post, there is much I cannot tell in public, but I'll see what's safe to disclose. There's already some material I've had queued up for a year. It's too risky. Not everything I am told I'm allowed to share without hurting someone.