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twitter | Seller_liar, "and because is better to use a free browser respect user privacity" | Dec 17 01:23 |
twitter | hmmm, a browser can't protect someone from a rooted OS. | Dec 17 01:24 |
twitter | Happy Birthday. How old are you, Roy? | Dec 17 01:34 |
schestowitz | 27 :-( | Dec 17 01:40 |
twitter | why so sad? | Dec 17 01:42 |
schestowitz | No, not sad. Either way, I used to be the young one. | Dec 17 01:44 |
twitter | PhD by age 27 is not bad. | Dec 17 01:54 |
twitter | I've been older than one of my teachers. | Dec 17 01:55 |
schestowitz | I could have finished at 24 | Dec 17 01:56 |
schestowitz | Then I found too many distractions | Dec 17 01:56 |
schestowitz | Actually, I warned my dad when I was 21 (could probably still find those mails) that the Internet could have me occupy a lot more time doing 'other things' | Dec 17 01:57 |
schestowitz | \gn | Dec 17 02:15 |
twitter | good night | Dec 17 02:20 |
dsmith_ | wpw PH'd | Dec 17 02:27 |
dsmith_ | impressive | Dec 17 02:27 |
dsmith_ | especially by 27 | Dec 17 02:27 |
twitter | RMS picks up Michael Lewis, a man who knows Wall Street. His books are older but should be read if you want to understand the den of thieves. http://gaurav1.blogspot.com/2008/11/e... | Dec 17 02:33 |
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twitter | Wow, that was a great read. | Dec 17 03:58 |
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schestowitz | Wall Street Casino: come lose your money, the drinks are complimentary. | Dec 17 09:16 |
MinceR | geekings | Dec 17 09:39 |
schestowitz | Candy Reagan... http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=a... | Dec 17 11:10 |
schestowitz | Internet gambling mogul surrenders $300m in guilty plea < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/17/partyg... > | Dec 17 11:59 |
schestowitz | Jobs walking away..? http://www.itwire.com/content/view/22354/1151/ "Is 2009 going to mark the end of Macworld Expo? Apple has turned its back on the annual pilgrimage: Steve Jobs won't be giving the keynote in January, and it'll be the last time the company exhibits." | Dec 17 12:04 |
schestowitz | Expect logjam of cell phone calls at Obama inauguration < http://edition.cnn.com/2008/TECH/12/16/inauguration... >. "Hundreds of thousands of Americans are planning to converge on the National Mall on January 20 to witness the historic moment when Barack Obama takes the oath of office." The National Mall is impressive (I was there 2 years ago for IEEE conference where I presented). | Dec 17 12:11 |
schestowitz | Zombies brewing... Zero day exploit for Internet Explorer is spreading < http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/n... > | Dec 17 12:48 |
schestowitz | Worst EU Lobbying Awards 2008 Winners and runners-up < http://www.worstlobby.eu/2008/home_en > | Dec 17 12:54 |
schestowitz | Wall Street Journal is shamed for FUD: "Called edge caching, it's a practice that has been used for years and has nothing to do with network neutrality." < http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?bl... > NBC also vilified: http://www.prwatch.org/node/8069 | Dec 17 12:57 |
schestowitz | http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/technology... "Computer security experts are advising users of Microsoft's Internet Explorer to switch to another web browser until a major security flaw is fixed." | Dec 17 13:01 |
schestowitz | "Economics is extremely useful as a form of employment for economists." -- John Kenneth Galbraith | Dec 17 13:10 |
schestowitz | Sent by a reader last night: "It strikes me that the entire stock market was one gigantic Ponzi scheme. Parish maybe quite correct in his analysis, like a lot of things “everyone” may have been doing it, but MS only did it better, as in they were never found out. Notice also how he said this ten years ago ..." | Dec 17 13:13 |
schestowitz | "As dyed in the wool techie I was always skeptical about the magic Black–Scholes formula for determining an options price. Al they did was borrow a few mathematical terms from physics and re-hash them for stocks. Unlike the stock-market, there is no free lunch in the physical world. " | Dec 17 13:14 |
schestowitz | "It's known as entropy, as in you can't create energy, you only get to move it around. Actually in quantum-physics, in order for a particle to tunnel into the nucleus of an atom it has to 'borrow' energy from the future, maybe the mathematics of the stock-market wasn't so screwy after all." | Dec 17 13:14 |
schestowitz | "So there you are Roy, go out and invent the quantum_tunnel version of B-S and you'll be famous. The trick is, to make it so complicated that no-one understands it .:) "The Black–Scholes PDE is a partial differential equation" < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... > < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quant... > < http://cosmos.asu.edu/publications/papers/%27Qu... > " | Dec 17 13:14 |
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schestowitz | http://www.nypost.com/seven/12082008/news/regi... "The NYPD wants all 1,000 Police Academy recruits trained to use M4 automatic machine guns - which are now carried only by the 400 cops in its elite Emergency Service Unit - in time for the holiday celebration in Times Square." | Dec 17 13:25 |
schestowitz | "APPLE which bases mucho of its marketing on the fact that its rivals crash a lot, has just released an update for its Mac OS X that... er, crashes a lot. The 10.5.6 update for Mac OS X, Leopard was declared perfect and holy in the sight of Steve Jobs and was eagerly downloaded by fanboys everywhere." http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/072/... | Dec 17 13:27 |
schestowitz | "It seems that Stark feels guilty that he threw another human being to the wolves. Anyway he is using the situation to show Karen how wonderful Linux is. At one point he was going to pop around and install it on her computer." < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/074/1050... > | Dec 17 13:29 |
schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/076/1050... "A DEPARTMENT FOR TRANSPORT 'cost-cutting' computer system has left taxpayers having to spend more after it started to talk German." | Dec 17 13:31 |
schestowitz | Rory and his friends at MSBBC, Microsoft spinners: ""it would not be advisable," he said,"to send people from one vulnerability (in Internet Explorer) to multiple vulnerabilities."" < http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/20... > | Dec 17 13:33 |
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Omar87 | hi all | Dec 17 13:34 |
schestowitz | He's slammed in the comments. | Dec 17 13:34 |
Omar87 | schestowitz: Did you read about that stupid teacher who accused Ken Starks of involvement in illegal activities? :D | Dec 17 13:35 |
schestowitz | Yes | Dec 17 13:36 |
schestowitz | "It seems that Stark feels guilty that he threw another human being to the wolves. Anyway he is using the situation to show Karen how wonderful Linux is. At one point he was going to pop around and install it on her computer." < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/074/1050074/he... > | Dec 17 13:36 |
ModplanMan | as the first comment says " I bet he is... ^^" | Dec 17 13:38 |
schestowitz | ModplanMan: in the Beeb? | Dec 17 13:40 |
schestowitz | The author of that blog, Rory, is a buddy of Microsoft employees. He writes about his meetups with them quite occasionally. | Dec 17 13:41 |
ModplanMan | nah, I mean the teacher/linux story | Dec 17 13:41 |
ModplanMan | and yeah, it does seem odd that the blog suddenly decided to pick up on such a non-story as an IE security hole | Dec 17 13:42 |
schestowitz | No, I think that's true. | Dec 17 13:42 |
schestowitz | His made her (in)famous. | Dec 17 13:42 |
schestowitz | He wrote angrily in a blog that addresses a niche but it became mainstream. it would make a good followup story. | Dec 17 13:42 |
ModplanMan | ooo, who knows - a whole school turned because of a student and a blog | Dec 17 13:43 |
schestowitz | While Microsoft loses billions, Nintendo is awash with money.. http://www.pcworld.com/article/155582/wii_... | Dec 17 13:48 |
ModplanMan | it really does seem odd to me how anyone can paint the picture for the competitors (especially the black hole that has been the Xbox brand for 2 generations) as anything but dark | Dec 17 13:50 |
ModplanMan | The Wii is completely opposed in strategy in business model, and is so successful that the only thing competitors can do is try and do a complete turn around from what they're doing now | Dec 17 13:51 |
schestowitz | They both lost hope. To make matters worse, the economy is now working well for Nintendo. Sony and MS can just dump, dump, dump (bigger losses). | Dec 17 13:55 |
ModplanMan | Exactly. Development costs are also a lot high on 360 and PS3 - another way the economy helps them | Dec 17 13:57 |
schestowitz | Same with cellphones and sub-notebooks ARM | Dec 17 13:58 |
schestowitz | *ATM | Dec 17 13:58 |
Omar87 | By the way, I tried PS 3 about a week ago at my friend's place. And honestly, as I was playing, the only expression in my mind was that the console isn't worth penny of it's price. | Dec 17 13:58 |
schestowitz | $600? | Dec 17 13:58 |
Omar87 | It's just another PS2 in a new shape, nothing really new. | Dec 17 13:59 |
ModplanMan | it's dropped a bit since then, around the $3-400 mark since then | Dec 17 13:59 |
schestowitz | ModplanMan: yes, I know. | Dec 17 13:59 |
schestowitz | Omar87: more polygons... and that 'new' technology that renders your old discs obsolete. | Dec 17 14:00 |
Omar87 | schestowitz: Exactly. | Dec 17 14:00 |
Omar87 | Nothing exceptionally new. | Dec 17 14:00 |
schestowitz | The economy is -blooming- b00ming.. Canon Postpones Construction of Digital Camera Factory < http://www.pcworld.com/article/155607/canon_postpones_... > | Dec 17 14:01 |
ModplanMan | except blu ray and cell which you need more than anything and will definitely need within 10 years according to sony | Dec 17 14:01 |
Omar87 | The console can't even prepare an omelet dish for breakfast.. lol. :) | Dec 17 14:02 |
schestowitz | A lot of people do fine with aged architecture. | Dec 17 14:03 |
schestowitz | Even CPU-intensive stuff like video editing moves to the server, so thin ARM chips can serve as a fine and mobile front end. | Dec 17 14:03 |
schestowitz | Omar87: not true. http://www.ibuypower.com/ibpdri/tm.aspx?m=97 | Dec 17 14:05 |
Omar87 | So far, I haven't noticed any real change in the graphic effects and stuff. | Dec 17 14:05 |
schestowitz | Wait.. it was removed.. | Dec 17 14:05 |
ModplanMan | lulz, play portal and have breakfast? | Dec 17 14:05 |
Omar87 | schestowitz: Too bad.. -_- | Dec 17 14:06 |
schestowitz | Here: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mJbxUCfnPsQ | Dec 17 14:06 |
schestowitz | Removed by user. | Dec 17 14:07 |
schestowitz | You can fry an egg on a GPU < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news... > | Dec 17 14:07 |
schestowitz | Here's one: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iy9qwCoaO48 | Dec 17 14:08 |
ModplanMan | wow. GPL'd egg frying app soon? | Dec 17 14:09 |
schestowitz | check it out how hot is our computer when we installed a Nvidia 9800 GXS, we can even fry eggs on it... < http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zrg8... > | Dec 17 14:10 |
schestowitz | If it's Sony, you can do BBQ on it too: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=raxOnrDFmag&a... http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb_sv8Wjnn0 | Dec 17 14:11 |
ModplanMan | shall have to remember that for the summer, everyone outside with the laptops and some frozen burgers | Dec 17 14:13 |
ModplanMan | http://tiny.cc/AZoAC oppertunity for uk copyright law to be rectified, even just a tiny bit | Dec 17 14:17 |
schestowitz | How does NPD know which PCs run Linux (they surely know nothing about OEM pressure tactics)? http://www.betanews.com/article/Analysts_PC_growth_ra... | Dec 17 14:17 |
ModplanMan | they most likely only track the sales, rather than try to keep track specifically of who runs what | Dec 17 14:24 |
ModplanMan | that 7 percent is most likely from netbooks/notebooks - shame they don't properly mention Linux | Dec 17 14:25 |
Omar87 | LOL, Lap top fires! Okay, this is hilarious! :D | Dec 17 14:27 |
schestowitz | ModplanMan: it's NPD... I could show you what they did before. | Dec 17 14:31 |
ModplanMan | what did they do before? | Dec 17 14:34 |
schestowitz | Let me dig up in my refs | Dec 17 14:38 |
schestowitz | Vista: better than expected | Dec 17 14:54 |
schestowitz | ,----[ Quote ] | Dec 17 14:54 |
schestowitz | | But wait! The NPD Group? Isn't it that market research firm which | Dec 17 14:54 |
schestowitz | | spotted the opportunities offered by the corporate movie and music | Dec 17 14:54 |
schestowitz | | companies from afar and almost overnight became an expert on p2p | Dec 17 14:54 |
schestowitz | | file sharing with, "highly questionable statistics blatantly | Dec 17 14:54 |
schestowitz | | slanted towards the entertainment cartels?" | Dec 17 14:54 |
schestowitz | `---- | Dec 17 14:54 |
schestowitz | http://p2pnet.net/story/10999 | Dec 17 14:54 |
schestowitz | Early Vista Sales Don't Tell the Whole Story | Dec 17 14:54 |
schestowitz | ,----[ Quote ] | Dec 17 14:54 |
schestowitz | | To be clear: The missing information is to be expected, and I don't | Dec 17 14:54 |
schestowitz | | mean to reflect poorly on Swenson or NPD. Research firms aren't in | Dec 17 14:54 |
schestowitz | | the business of giving away information to the news media, but | Dec 17 14:54 |
schestowitz | | selling it to clients. The information provided to the press | Dec 17 14:54 |
schestowitz | | should be incomplete. | Dec 17 14:54 |
schestowitz | `---- | Dec 17 14:54 |
schestowitz | http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/vista/early... | Dec 17 14:54 |
schestowitz | Zune doesn't shake iPod's market lead | Dec 17 14:55 |
schestowitz | ^^^^^^^ | Dec 17 14:55 |
schestowitz | ,----[ Quote ] | Dec 17 14:55 |
schestowitz | | 'All in all, that's a pretty good performance,'' said Stephen Baker, | Dec 17 14:55 |
schestowitz | | an analyst with Reston, Va.-based NPD. | Dec 17 14:55 |
schestowitz | | ^^^ | Dec 17 14:55 |
schestowitz | `---- | Dec 17 14:55 |
schestowitz | http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/bus... | Dec 17 14:55 |
schestowitz | Zune does a bit better than expected | Dec 17 14:55 |
schestowitz | ,----[ Quote ] | Dec 17 14:55 |
schestowitz | | Despite getting a hammering in the tech press, Microsoft's Zune has | Dec 17 14:55 |
schestowitz | | had respectable sales last month according to data from market | Dec 17 14:55 |
schestowitz | | research firm NPD Group. | Dec 17 14:55 |
schestowitz | | ^^^ | Dec 17 14:55 |
schestowitz | `---- | Dec 17 14:55 |
schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36443 | Dec 17 14:55 |
schestowitz | Microsoft's Xbox 360 US sales-NPD story withdrawn | Dec 17 14:56 |
schestowitz | ^^^ | Dec 17 14:56 |
schestowitz | ,----[ Quote ] | Dec 17 14:56 |
schestowitz | | The Los Angeles story headlined "Microsoft's Xbox 360 US sales | Dec 17 14:56 |
schestowitz | | top first Xbox--NPD" is withdrawn because the data supporting the | Dec 17 14:56 |
schestowitz | | ^^^ | Dec 17 14:56 |
schestowitz | | story may be inaccurate. Reuters is waiting for an update from the | Dec 17 14:56 |
schestowitz | | company. A new story may be issued. | Dec 17 14:56 |
schestowitz | `---- | Dec 17 14:56 |
schestowitz | http://yahoo.reuters.com/news/article... | Dec 17 14:56 |
schestowitz | And so on and so forth... | Dec 17 14:56 |
schestowitz | Bush revisionism: http://www.stallman.org/archives/2008-sep-... | Dec 17 14:59 |
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schestowitz | Blah-Blah-Blah-kenhorn... always saying something bad about the very topic he covers: http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=3191 | Dec 17 15:19 |
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Omar87 | Hi all | Dec 17 16:06 |
schestowitz | Sun supports Windows first?!?!? (same as JavaFX) "The hardware-accelerated OpenGL support is deemed experimental in VirtualBox 2.1. OpenGL support is only exposed to Windows XP and Windows Vista 32-bit guests at this time, but support for other platforms is expected in the future." http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item... | Dec 17 16:35 |
schestowitz | *LOL* "When the following press release arrived, my heart beat a little faster..." http://www.computerworlduk.com/community/blogs/index.cf... | Dec 17 16:36 |
schestowitz | MS MOG on OIN: "OIN Gets a New Anti-Patent Charter" | Dec 17 17:14 |
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schestowitz | MSFT below $20 again... | Dec 17 17:40 |
twitter | Candy Capitalism: I got 30 of my classmates to do a bunch of useless work for peanuts by calling it an experiment. You can do whatever you want when you own the candy bag. | Dec 17 19:00 |
twitter | "It seems that Stark feels guilty that he threw another human being to the wolves." That would make us the wolves, rather than the M$ monopolist and the Wintel press. Black is white and white is black. | Dec 17 19:04 |
schestowitz | Hey | Dec 17 19:06 |
schestowitz | Ken plays it nice. Coy.. | Dec 17 19:07 |
twitter | hello | Dec 17 19:07 |
twitter | Well, the situation is backwards. The teacher thought what she did from years of fierce brainwashing. | Dec 17 19:08 |
twitter | Those thoughts were wrong and outrageous, and they are common. | Dec 17 19:08 |
twitter | My sister in law is a teacher and thinks free software is just dirty. | Dec 17 19:09 |
twitter | "There's no free lunch, it's shareware ... blah blah blah." Believe me, she's got zero interest in being told she's wrong. | Dec 17 19:10 |
twitter | Her mind is completely poisoned. | Dec 17 19:10 |
twitter | She loves M$, and thinks Vista is great, though she's afraid to connect it to the internet or "use it too much" | Dec 17 19:11 |
schestowitz | Minds are corruptible. | Dec 17 19:11 |
schestowitz | I watch many videos about it these days | Dec 17 19:12 |
schestowitz | It's imposed by those who learned from the PR industry. The mind is a fragile thing... how else do you recruit people to invade Vietnam or Iraq? | Dec 17 19:12 |
twitter | She's ready willing and able to pump out the newest M$ crap and demand that others go out and spend their money to work with what she considers "standard software" | Dec 17 19:13 |
twitter | I don't bother to argue with her, it only makes her angry. | Dec 17 19:13 |
twitter | The Helios blog is about the only way to get around road blocks like that. It brought down the kind of response such ignorance deserves. | Dec 17 19:14 |
twitter | These roadblocks won't move otherwise, they think the whole industry agrees. | Dec 17 19:14 |
schestowitz | These are surrounded by the same people | Dec 17 19:17 |
twitter | They are wrong and everyone who knows anything about computer knows that. If we don't express ourselves bluntly, M$'s PR will carry the day. | Dec 17 19:19 |
twitter | The wife sends me a horror story "Beneath these pictures of the smiling faces lurked an evil, a nightmare," Indeed, we see ourselves. | Dec 17 19:20 |
twitter | http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/lifestyle/chi-n... | Dec 17 19:21 |
schestowitz | .I'm writing about this right now (ODF) | Dec 17 19:22 |
schestowitz | Some people mailed me about it | Dec 17 19:22 |
twitter | compare http://www.toysfortots.org/ | Dec 17 19:22 |
schestowitz | Short of an embargo I see no resolution to such corruption | Dec 17 19:22 |
schestowitz | The issue with embargo is that those who impose it can be pushed out of their job by what a govt. delegate would call "Microsoft Scientology" | Dec 17 19:23 |
twitter | State money should not be spent on M$. It is a waste and only leads to more of the same. | Dec 17 19:23 |
schestowitz | It's a gang of criminal minds that in a perfect world would do time in prison. | Dec 17 19:23 |
schestowitz | In reality, like in FraudStreet, they are GoodFellers(R) in Suits. | Dec 17 19:23 |
schestowitz | twitter: yes, that's another form of Microsoft tax | Dec 17 19:24 |
twitter | Schools and governments waste billions on that crap instead of doing the job they are supposed to: education, transportation, healthcare and so on. | Dec 17 19:24 |
schestowitz | Even if you use Linux, when you pay for your land, you feed criminals that kill children in Nigeria for profit | Dec 17 19:24 |
schestowitz | When you pay for the garbage man, your money funds things like NASDAQ, which are run by criminals worthy of The Chair (Madoff) | Dec 17 19:25 |
schestowitz | Governments are people. They feed friends, not the needs of taxpayers. | Dec 17 19:25 |
twitter | I'm not as outrages that MY money goes there. I'm outraged that everyone's money is not better spent. | Dec 17 19:25 |
schestowitz | Only pressure and exposure can change that. Only a flashlight pressures them to do their job properly , not to endow franchise (money funnels) | Dec 17 19:26 |
twitter | Governments should always feed people closer to them - no one but M$ makes money on Windoze. | Dec 17 19:26 |
schestowitz | Well, not you're buying motor giants. | Dec 17 19:26 |
twitter | I don't buy US cars either. | Dec 17 19:27 |
twitter | Even corrupt officials are better off without Winblows. Free software leaves them with more money to kick back. | Dec 17 19:28 |
schestowitz | Kickbacks are not justa US thing | Dec 17 19:29 |
schestowitz | Without full transparency it will continue to happen | Dec 17 19:29 |
schestowitz | If it can happen, then it DOES happen and it WILL happen | Dec 17 19:29 |
schestowitz | If the SEC does not prevent pyramid schemes, then many STILL exist, yet to be uncovered | Dec 17 19:30 |
schestowitz | I bet a lot of people in large companies are shivering now at the sight of the news about Madoff. The question is, who is next and are banks prepared to absortb another blow? | Dec 17 19:30 |
twitter | The banks were no prepared for the first blows. | Dec 17 19:32 |
twitter | Novell Cancels Brainshare http://ostatic.com/blog/novell-cancels-bra... | Dec 17 19:32 |
schestowitz | Haha | Dec 17 19:34 |
schestowitz | Less work for me!!!!!!!!!1 | Dec 17 19:34 |
schestowitz | I remember it last year. | Dec 17 19:34 |
schestowitz | I stayed late at night just to catch up... I watch everything about them while they go the way of the SCOdodo | Dec 17 19:35 |
schestowitz | MacWorld is dying too (I suppose you saw it in this morning's log). The Hollywood/Disney life is over now with the crisis and all... IDG's LinuxWOrld is dead too... and Ubuntu Live | Dec 17 19:36 |
twitter | Ubuntu Live? What's that? | Dec 17 19:41 |
twitter | Oh, now I see. | Dec 17 19:42 |
twitter | http://en.oreilly.com/ubuntu2008/publ... | Dec 17 19:42 |
schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/17... | Dec 17 19:44 |
schestowitz | Ubuntu Live? It's dead. | Dec 17 19:44 |
schestowitz | Some ORLY conference. | Dec 17 19:44 |
schestowitz | Lasted for one year, I think. | Dec 17 19:44 |
schestowitz | So many people from alicedsl.de are trolling Novell | Dec 17 19:48 |
schestowitz | .Probably the SUSE people. | Dec 17 19:48 |
schestowitz | S.u.S.E. | Dec 17 19:48 |
schestowitz | Oops. I meant "trolling BN", not Novell | Dec 17 19:48 |
twitter | I suspect the trolls will go away as their companies fail. | Dec 17 20:04 |
schestowitz | No, I think that's when they get more paranoid so they mercilessly attack the opposition | Dec 17 20:05 |
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twitter | No pay, no troll. The hecklers only prove what kind of scum non free software companies are filled with. They are the first to say they won't work without pay but trade more of their dignity and character for less than everyone else. | Dec 17 20:15 |
twitter | If they are PR people, they will be cut with other counter productive advertising. | Dec 17 20:16 |
twitter | If they are actual company employees, they will see the light soon after they retire or are fired. | Dec 17 20:16 |
twitter | Juvenile hecklers have more fun with other targets. | Dec 17 20:17 |
twitter | Software bores them to death. | Dec 17 20:17 |
twitter | BBC Astroturf comment, " Don't be too hasty to jump to Firefox, Safari or Chrome, they ALL have their own set of serious security issues." This is true, but only on Winblows. | Dec 17 20:17 |
twitter | They pretend to be Opera people. | Dec 17 20:18 |
schestowitz | Hehe. http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/17/pe... | Dec 17 20:44 |
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schestowitz | I took me a long time to do this one < http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/17/... >, so I hope it's at least bound to be read. | Dec 17 22:16 |
schestowitz | People squirming at Novell critique. http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?lts... | Dec 17 22:18 |
schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?l... ". It is not Libel if it is true. Like this, "Bill Gates is a dumpster diving thief" or "Steve Ballmer is a chair throwing lunatic"" | Dec 17 22:21 |
schestowitz | Charles Cooper/CNET peddles Microsoft BS as well: http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/software/0,39... | Dec 17 22:40 |
schestowitz | Motorola to freeze pay rises, pensions < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/17/motorola_f... > | Dec 17 22:46 |
schestowitz | PCs=abuse. "Thousands of PCs and laptops are sold every Christmas, but most consumers don't know that many computer parts are produced under inhumane working conditions in the Far East. A new study has exposed shocking neglect at suppliers for some of the biggest computer manufacturers." http://www.spiegel.de/international/busines... | Dec 17 22:58 |
*kapipi is now known as tor | Dec 17 23:20 |
*tor is now known as bechmann | Dec 17 23:21 |
*bechmann is now known as tor | Dec 17 23:22 |
*tor is now known as tbechmann | Dec 17 23:22 |
*tbechmann is now known as kapibara | Dec 17 23:23 |
*kapibara is now known as nyoro | Dec 17 23:24 |
*nyoro is now known as kapipi | Dec 17 23:27 |
*Casperin has quit ("Leaving") | Dec 17 23:33 |
MinceR | gn | Dec 17 23:42 |