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12.18.08

There’s No ‘Open Source’ with Microsoft

Posted in Fraud, Free/Libre Software, Microsoft at 5:53 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Underlying platforms, frameworks, even formats are proprietary and Microsoft patents-encumbered

Saugatuck has just published the results of a study where it analysed the impact of companies (referred to as “vendors”) on open source. Among the findings there are hints about why Microsoft wants authority. It’s all about controlling and taming projects through .NET, patents, Windows and formats like OOXML, then having a band of free labourers. That’s how it views it. This is not open source; it’s just Microsoft's vision of it, which is self serving.

Fishing net
Dat net

Useful to Microsoft

Savio is still pushing his ‘proprietary open source’ agenda (see the banner on the right):

I was a little surprised when I stumbled on this page about “Open Source .Net eXchange.” It’s a mini-conference in London, UK, for .Net developers who are, or are thinking about, using open source.

He even spoke to Microsoft's anti-GNU/Linux guy and Lora Bentley just follows his blog, so she echoes his message.

I agree with Rodrigues’ conclusion that this event is but one small example of instances in which developers can and do have a foot on each side of the open vs. proprietary fence.

This is about marrying the two, for Microsoft to have parenthood of “open source” — through formats, APIs and platform.

This is the ‘Microsoftication’ of “open source”, which some certain self-professed Mac fans and self-appointed open source advocates seem to welcome.

What Readers Say

Jose, who once wrote about the dangers of Mono and other Microsoft-inspired/led technologies, is now addressing the parallel issues with formats.

Avoid Microsoft led technologies, since these benefit the MS monopolies, since these do not disclose the many other details that would be needed for interop beyond the core shell spec.

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The biggest problem with OOXML was that it didn’t leverage even one teensy bit the existing ISO document format, ODF. It threw a ton of existing investments down the drain.

Amazingly, instead of finishing up SVG, OOXML supporters decide to start implementing from scratch a multi-thousand page format that re-invents the SVG wheel and a whole lot of other wheels. Go figure.

Slated, whose thoughts on SUSE/Novell/Microsoft were published earlier today, later commented on Microsoft’s attitude towards its resistors, which it consistently tries to characterise as “Haters” (among other similarly-pointless labels [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]. He wrote:

One wonders why exactly they hate Linux and the Free Software community. I mean after all – at least any hatred against Microsoft would be justified by, amongst many other (extremely well documented) things, their sabotage of a charity for nothing more than mindshare.

“[A] Microsoft supporter hating those who dissent against Microsoft, is like a criminal hating the police for catching him.”But a Microsoft supporter hating those who dissent against Microsoft, is like a criminal hating the police for catching him. It’s nothing more than knee-jerk reciprocation and mindless contradiction. Was the DOJ engaged in a “campaign of hate” when they prosecuted Microsoft for violation of section 2 of the Sherman Act? Well obviously they must have been, since they dared to challenge Micfrosoft’s “right” to operate like gangsters. Punishing criminals is obviously wrong, so dissenting against the persistently unethical behaviour of those criminals is therefore purely irrational hatred, naturally.

When such people are reminded of how Microsoft bribed ISO delegates to support OOXML, and bribed Nigerian education officials to wipe Mandriva from children’s laptops, and any one of the thousands of other vile things that Microsoft do as their standard business practise, does it even register in their minds, I wonder, or is it filtered out by their rose-tinted spectacles?

There can be only one of two possible explanations. Either they believe that all of this documented evidence against Microsoft is a lie (presumably including all the evidence provided by the DOJ; the EU commission; Joe Comes; and countless others in court), or they fully accept the truth of this evidence, but just happen to think it’s perfectly acceptable behaviour.

In other words they are either utterly delusional or evil.

Take your pick.”

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4 Comments

  1. Charles Oliver said,

    December 20, 2008 at 12:45 pm

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    “and bribed Nigerian education officials to wipe Mandriva from children’s laptops”

    Shouldn’t that be “attempted to bribe”. If I remember the MS defence was that they didn’t actually get around to bribing anyone, it was agreed in principle but there was a dissenter who wanted Mandriva so the payment was never made.

  2. Roy Schestowitz said,

    December 20, 2008 at 5:01 pm

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    See this for details.

  3. spartan2276 said,

    December 24, 2008 at 11:17 am

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    @Roy

    you know what I realized the more I read those types of articles/News that people do filter it out and they think and truly believe that it is acceptable behavior. You and I and most of the people in the Free software community think that is pure evil, I certainly believe it to be so.

    But the funny part about it is that most people will come to this blog read your articles and then call you a nut job or say that is all a conspiracy and that no one should pay attention.

    I just don’t get it, why are people like this. I mean how much easier can it get, you and everyone else is clearly spelling it out for them but somehow they ignore it. It is truly disgusting to see people reason this way, such lack of education and so much corruption for what money which in the end they won’t get to take it with them after they die. What a joke these crooks are and the rest of these idiots who knowingly support them!

  4. jo Shields said,

    December 24, 2008 at 11:41 am

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    such lack of education

    Ironically, demagogues target the stupid. Some are good at it – e.g. Bill O’Reilley or Roy Scheistowitz.

    Only the exceptionally moronic would believe “hatred of double standards” means “carte blanche approval of all actions undertaken by Microsoft Corp”

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