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twitterhe he, a fun comment from 2007 about M$ DRM, http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?s...Jan 31 19:15
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schestowitzThere might be another Digg FP on the way: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Bill_Gates_on_Li...Jan 31 20:05
schestowitzbrbJan 31 20:05
*flyback parents house is getting water from ice backed up ice in the gutters melting around the sewer drain in the roof and running into the houseJan 31 20:16
*flyback ponders what he could cheaply rig up from home depot to keep pumpingJan 31 20:17
*schestowitz thinks it must be global warming :-)Jan 31 20:17
flybacknopeJan 31 20:18
flybackjust old 40's house and roofJan 31 20:18
schestowitzBetter than caves and cabins.Jan 31 20:18
flybacknot reallyJan 31 20:18
flybackdad was away in hondoas on missions so mom had to mop upJan 31 20:18
flybackand he has shoulder replaced and the other guttedJan 31 20:19
flybackso he can't do much eitherJan 31 20:19
schestowitzSorry to hear that.Jan 31 20:23
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_dougping ...Jan 31 20:28
schestowitzHeyJan 31 20:28
schestowitzDon't hammer on the site unless you have toJan 31 20:29
schestowitzUse cacheJan 31 20:29
_dougis BN down ?Jan 31 20:29
schestowitzNoJan 31 20:29
schestowitzIt respondsJan 31 20:29
schestowitzBut it's slowJan 31 20:29
_dougThis Account is Experiencing Technical DifficultiesJan 31 20:29
_dougSorry for the inconvenience.Jan 31 20:29
_dougNet-Prophets.comJan 31 20:29
schestowitzOuchJan 31 20:30
schestowitzWaitJan 31 20:30
schestowitzIt's Digg effectJan 31 20:30
_dougaaah ...Jan 31 20:33
schestowitzWhat do you suggest?Jan 31 20:34
_dougmove to a different server ..Jan 31 20:34
schestowitzWhat server?Jan 31 20:35
schestowitzIt's already the best hosting account, I thinkJan 31 20:35
schestowitzIt worked about 10 minutes agoJan 31 20:35
_dougibiblio ..Jan 31 20:35
schestowitzWould they accept us?Jan 31 20:36
_dougdunno, why not ask ..Jan 31 20:36
_doughttp://ars.userfriendly.org/ca...Jan 31 20:37
schestowitzFor a boyoctt site?Jan 31 20:37
schestowitzI doubt itJan 31 20:37
_dougcall it by a different name ..Jan 31 20:38
schestowitzNot simpleJan 31 20:38
_dougtechfud.orgJan 31 20:40
schestowitzNo..Jan 31 20:41
_dougTyrannical Elementary Crackhead Heralder of Fear and Utter Deviance .. :)Jan 31 20:41
benJImanPerhaps you should host it on windows server 2008 for better availability.Jan 31 20:45
_dougbenJIman: why are you here ?Jan 31 20:45
benJImanI told you before I'm paid to watch this channel.Jan 31 20:47
_dougkeep up the good work.Jan 31 20:47
_dougHow is the Open SuSE project going ?Jan 31 20:47
MinceRbenJIman: so having to reboot the server every few days counts as better availability over there? :>Jan 31 20:47
_dougbenJIman ?Jan 31 20:49
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benJImanThat's a bit of a vague question.Jan 31 20:50
_dougLast new user joined in July 2008 ..Jan 31 20:51
NZhereticWhat has happened to the  boycottnovell.com website? "This Account is Experiencing Technical Difficulties"Jan 31 20:51
_dougone member in the UK ..Jan 31 20:53
_dougBN: The hosting service is experiencing difficultiesJan 31 20:53
benJIman_doug: User of what?Jan 31 20:54
_dougthe OpenSuSE forum ..Jan 31 20:54
benJImanOh.Jan 31 20:55
_doughttp://forums.opensuse.org/m...Jan 31 20:55
benJImanIt's full of failure, like most web fora.Jan 31 20:55
_dougWould Novell consider hosting the BN site ?Jan 31 20:55
PetoKrausnotfunJan 31 20:56
benJImanThey can't even host community openSUSE stuff for legal reasons.Jan 31 20:56
schestowitzNZheretic: we got too much loadJan 31 20:56
_doug"The openSUSE Forums have 20663 (+521) registered users .."Jan 31 20:56
_dougt community openSUSE"Jan 31 20:57
_dougcan't host opensuse, why not ?Jan 31 20:57
_dougwhat legal reasons?Jan 31 20:58
_dougping benJIman, what does the manual have to say on Novell not being able to host openSuSE stuff ?Jan 31 21:03
benJIman?Jan 31 21:04
benJImanThey can't host some openSUSE projects because they don't have control over them.Jan 31 21:04
benJImane.g. if they contribute to or actually do infringe patents.Jan 31 21:04
benJImanLike ffmpeg packages, or links to ffmpeg packages.Jan 31 21:04
benJImanOr nvidia drivers that infringe the GPL etc.Jan 31 21:05
_dougis there a position paper from Novell on that matter ?Jan 31 21:06
benJImanI'm not sure what you mean.Jan 31 21:06
benJImanThey have stated they will not host things that they know infringe on software patents or the GPL.Jan 31 21:06
_dougI thought Novell distributed openSuSE, including ffmpeg, so where's the risk?Jan 31 21:07
benJImanThey don't distribute ffmpeg no.Jan 31 21:07
benJImanThey don't distribute the nvidia drivers.Jan 31 21:07
benJImanThey don't distribute mplayer.Jan 31 21:07
benJImanetc.Jan 31 21:07
_dougsoftware.opensuse.org, Registrant Organization: Novell  Inc...Jan 31 21:08
benJImanAnd?Jan 31 21:08
_douglast I recall they came on the disk or from the update site ?Jan 31 21:08
benJImanNopeJan 31 21:09
_dougdownload.opensuse.org, registrant organization: Novell  Inc.Jan 31 21:10
MinceRthese opensuse guys must be really confident of their work if they recommend windows instead :>Jan 31 21:10
schestowitzbenJIman: how about those layoffs?  I hope the Linux part of not affected?Jan 31 21:10
benJImanschestowitz: I noticed your headline was an order of magnitude out.Jan 31 21:10
schestowitzCan Ronald be sacked then?Jan 31 21:10
schestowitzbenJIman: no.Jan 31 21:10
schestowitz25%Jan 31 21:10
benJImanschestowitz: 100 not 1000.Jan 31 21:10
schestowitzNovell has 400 employees?Jan 31 21:11
benJImanThe 25% was not accurate.Jan 31 21:11
schestowitzWhat's accurate?Jan 31 21:11
benJIman3%.Jan 31 21:11
schestowitzSource?Jan 31 21:12
benJImanhttp://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?comm... and the article you linked after update.Jan 31 21:12
benJImanhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-13...Jan 31 21:12
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GoblinRFDHi Roy.  Everything ok? Your site appears to be down.Jan 31 21:15
benJImanWhy don't you put the status in the topic so people don't have to keep asking.Jan 31 21:15
GoblinRFDSorry.  Just got here!Jan 31 21:15
schestowitzGoblinRFD: yes, Digg+LT effectJan 31 21:16
schestowitzIt was actually responding (barely) just before it needed to be isolatedJan 31 21:16
GoblinRFD:(Jan 31 21:16
schestowitz:-(Jan 31 21:16
schestowitzWaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhJan 31 21:16
GoblinRFDRoy are u on twitter?Jan 31 21:17
schestowitzcould be worse.. http://www.tuxmachines.org/Jan 31 21:17
schestowitzBeen down for almost a week cause DNS doesn't point thereJan 31 21:18
schestowitzShe could get deindexed for itJan 31 21:18
PetoKrausdeindexed?Jan 31 21:19
schestowitzAnd Groklaw works privately: http://www.groklaw.net/article.p...Jan 31 21:19
schestowitzThe more important the news, the more likely you are to go downJan 31 21:20
schestowitzIt's annonying, but hey, what can you do?Jan 31 21:20
PetoKrausthat'd explain why my server runs so wellJan 31 21:22
schestowitzWhat would?Jan 31 21:23
PetoKraus<schestowitz> The more important the news, the more likely you are to go downJan 31 21:23
schestowitzOhJan 31 21:24
schestowitzWell, I got some E-mails about itJan 31 21:24
schestowitzMany Linux sites/people link to itJan 31 21:24
schestowitzBut now they'll get an ugly pageJan 31 21:24
schestowitzYou pull the server back up and get back where you started... it crawls.Jan 31 21:24
schestowitzSo the account is set aside. I needed to apologise to the host when it happened last yearJan 31 21:25
PetoKrausbwahJan 31 21:26
schestowitzIt's annoying but I can't do anything. If I could, I wouldJan 31 21:26
schestowitzI could put more pages on cacheJan 31 21:26
schestowitzBut this endured Digg and Slashdot before, so I was hopeful. Another FP was on the way but not it spews out an error, so it won't make itJan 31 21:27
_douggtg ...Jan 31 21:33
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schestowitzhttp://www.itwire.com/con...Jan 31 21:39
GoblinRFDQuote of the day:Jan 31 21:39
GoblinRFD"I am sorry you don't see using Windows Vista a gift millions of users world wide are benefiting from. :)" - Andre Da Costa - TwitterJan 31 21:39
schestowitzThe trolls are, as usual, using downtime to make false accusationsJan 31 21:40
schestowitz"Roy, I couldn't help but notice the below appended post.  I followed the link and did some research, now has your URL as a GoDaddy parked site.  Is boycottnovell down for good?  Word "suspended in the "net-prophets.com" URL doesn't reflect good. "Jan 31 21:40
GoblinRFDRE: Link - Yeah Ive been discussing this elsewhere.  MS will love that.Jan 31 21:40
schestowitzThe trolls in USENET deceive people nowJan 31 21:40
schestowitz"OP was apparently Gary who used a comment spamming open proxy from Germany to crosspost to: comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.2600, microsoft.public.security.homeusers and 24hoursupport.helpdesk. "Jan 31 21:40
schestowitzANyway... It'll be back soon.Jan 31 21:41
GoblinRFDyeah over on MS watch they take to impersonating handles to cause confusionJan 31 21:41
schestowitzWe had too much traffic (like half a million hits in hours)Jan 31 21:41
schestowitzI don't know why Coral didn't take itJan 31 21:41
schestowitzMaybe we got hit elsewhereJan 31 21:41
schestowitzBecause the server stablised when I got back from the gymJan 31 21:42
schestowitzThen it slowed down again, someone told me too, but it was still there.Jan 31 21:42
schestowitz Andre Da Costa is still patting a dinoJan 31 21:42
GoblinRFDChips over on MS watch managing to find a link to Andre Da Costa and pictures of the laptop he was allegedly given by Microsoft. http://cid-e8e5cc039d51e3db.skydrive.live.co...Jan 31 21:43
GoblinRFDlook at him, all smiles..Im not surprised he supports Microsoft, poor lad is probably after more free gifts.Jan 31 21:43
schestowitzHehe.Jan 31 21:45
schestowitzIs this him? http://cid-e8e5cc039d51e3db.skydrive...Jan 31 21:45
schestowitzShilboy?Jan 31 21:45
schestowitzExpertise: copy&paste MS press releasesJan 31 21:45
GoblinRFDprobably, but then if the allegation is true, what does it say about Microsoft.  Target an impressionable lad in a poor country, send him a gift (which he probably wouldnt be able to afford) and then sit back and watch him promote your products in the hope of getting more.  Sounds like $6000 well spent.Jan 31 21:46
GoblinRFDand if its true, is probably one of the lowest acts Microsoft has ever done.Jan 31 21:47
schestowitzThat's Microsoft.Jan 31 21:47
NZhereticschestowitz : Just open that last jpeg in gimp and increase the brightnessJan 31 21:51
schestowitzHere's use of "Open Source" where it has nothing to do with it: http://www.americanprogress.org/is...Jan 31 21:51
schestowitzNZheretic: what's in there?Jan 31 21:51
NZhereticYou can better see his face.Jan 31 21:52
GoblinRFDBBL - Gotta have a shower.Jan 31 21:53
schestowitzNZheretic: I'll do a post about it laterJan 31 21:53
schestowitzI'll probably do suse links tomorrow when the server can return.Jan 31 21:53
schestowitzAlso ODF newsletterJan 31 21:53
NZhereticschestowitz : His face is on his profile page ( http://cid-e8e5cc039d51e3db.profile.live.com/ ) so it is not big news.Jan 31 21:54
schestowitzYesJan 31 21:56
NZhereticschestowitz: "Target an impressionable lad in a poor country, send him a gift..." , Microsoft equivalent of the Nigerian Scammers?Jan 31 21:56
schestowitzGoblinRFD: do you have some resources on this chap?Jan 31 21:57
schestowitzLike sinlist?Jan 31 21:57
schestowitz\*LOL*Jan 31 21:57
schestowitzWatch the "network"Jan 31 21:57
schestowitzMJ (Mary Jo Foley)Jan 31 21:57
schestowitzShills uniteJan 31 21:58
schestowitzThere's another MS orgy in NetworkWorld (IDG). it's called Microsoft SubnetJan 31 21:58
NZhereticschestowitz : You might want to double check the IP addresses he uses to see if is actually in  Jamaica W.I.Jan 31 21:58
schestowitzIDG give them a whole section of the site where Ashley recruits 'shills' to post blog items that glorify MSJan 31 21:58
schestowitzhttp://cid-86589e2f0e686252.profile.live.com/Jan 31 21:59
NZheretichttp://www.upstartblogger.com/free-mac-...Jan 31 22:06
NZhereticAndre Da Costa May 23rd, 2008 at 10:53 pmJan 31 22:06
NZheretic'am begging please let me win this MacBook Air, I am desperate for a laptop like this."Jan 31 22:07
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schestowitz*LOL*Jan 31 22:07
Ziggy1the site is downJan 31 22:08
schestowitzYEsJan 31 22:08
schestowitzI was laughing at something elseJan 31 22:08
schestowitzThe site will be back later when the ghosts are goneJan 31 22:08
Ziggy1lolJan 31 22:09
schestowitzPage requestsJan 31 22:09
schestowitzIt has been bad since 4pmJan 31 22:09
Ziggy1what's the time nowJan 31 22:09
schestowitzI tried to load it up at a hotel earlier, but it took minutes and no stylesheet eitherJan 31 22:09
schestowitz10pmJan 31 22:10
Ziggy1oh, okJan 31 22:10
schestowitzShane and I upgraded the hosting accountJan 31 22:10
schestowitzIt doesn't help unless it's a cluster thoughJan 31 22:10
schestowitzWhich I tried using in CoralJan 31 22:10
Ziggy1oh, ok, have you ever heard of godaddy?Jan 31 22:10
schestowitzYes, why?Jan 31 22:11
schestowitzWe're on another host.Jan 31 22:11
Ziggy1That's who I use, there service is very goodJan 31 22:11
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schestowitzI hope PJ will be back to delivering Truth soon. No-one covers SCO, so MOG can muddy the water. Maureen O'Gara writes about he beloved SCO doubling the prices for quicker death.. http://opensource.sys-con.com/node/825407 (SCO Hikes Prices)Jan 31 22:30
Roy_B2Still on sys-con even after they allegedly banished her, eh?Jan 31 22:31
schestowitzThe fruadsters from Gartners vs FOSS again... http://www.baselinemag.com/c/a/Linux-and-Ope...Jan 31 22:33
schestowitzMaybe Microsoft will 'employ' them soon to compensate for the FOSS FUD they had grantedJan 31 22:33
Roy_B2Tacky site, that sys-con.  Popped up an ad which blocked me from reading the article.Jan 31 22:33
schestowitzRoy_B2: MOG seems to be the main person running that placeJan 31 22:33
schestowitzShe did this anonymously for a whileJan 31 22:33
Roy_B2Problems with boycottnovell.com?Jan 31 22:35
schestowitzI actually found out it was her after her 'supporter' Bill Beebe snitched about her pseudonymJan 31 22:35
Roy_B2It shows "http://net-prophets.c..."Jan 31 22:35
schestowitzThis reached Groklaw through me..Jan 31 22:35
schestowitzRoy_B2: yes, Digg effectJan 31 22:35
schestowitzAnd others..Jan 31 22:35
Roy_B2I never knew it was actually a subdirectory of this "http://net-prophets.com/" ...Jan 31 22:36
Roy_B2What does "con" is "sys-con" stand for anyway? ;)Jan 31 22:36
schestowitzRoy_B2: it's not a subdirJan 31 22:36
schestowitzThere's a redirect nowJan 31 22:37
schestowitzIt's on /home/boycottn/public_html/Jan 31 22:37
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schestowitzBTW, it turns out the report about 25% of Novell employees getting the pink slip is incorrect (bad sources). I need to correct it tomorrowJan 31 22:38
schestowitzDOD launches site to develop open-source software http://fcw.com/articles/2009/01/30/dod-lau...Jan 31 22:38
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GoblinRFDAh...What was the correct Novell figure?Jan 31 22:39
schestowitz3%Jan 31 22:39
schestowitzThey'll need to fire more though, in due timeJan 31 22:40
GoblinRFDI wonder if thats the 3% that sponsor monoJan 31 22:43
schestowitz:-)Jan 31 22:44
schestowitzNo, these are the key peopleJan 31 22:44
schestowitzThey weave together Nov and SoftJan 31 22:44
GoblinRFDoh well it definately wont be monoJan 31 22:44
GoblinRFDMono is about as popular as a horny dog in a Ms Lovely Legs competition.Jan 31 22:44
GoblinRFDSrc: Modified from a saying by Arnold J Rimmer.Jan 31 22:45
schestowitzOr Ubuntu Edgy in 2009.Jan 31 22:46
GoblinRFD:)Jan 31 22:46
GoblinRFDAndres appeal for a Macbook is now up on Microsoft Watch.Jan 31 22:47
GoblinRFDI dont think Microsoft will be too impressed.Jan 31 22:47
Roy_B2Another O'Gara story: Microsoft-Yahoo: Bartz to Ballmer: 'Don't Hold Your Breath' <http://search.sys-con.com/node/825084>Jan 31 22:47
schestowitzHere's what destroying the US: http://www.prwatch.org/node/8174 ('lobbyists')Jan 31 22:47
schestowitzRoy_B2: she also called Bartz a bitchJan 31 22:48
schestowitzI wouldn't feed here anywayJan 31 22:48
GoblinRFDI could be wrong....Jan 31 22:48
GoblinRFDbut she does look hot.Jan 31 22:48
Roy_B2Sounds like projection to me ...Jan 31 22:49
schestowitzGoblinRFD: who?Jan 31 22:49
schestowitzBartz?Jan 31 22:49
schestowitzOr that MOG mug from the 1970s or whatever?Jan 31 22:49
GoblinRFDOn the above link...Jan 31 22:50
schestowitzAs doug says, "she's growing younger"Jan 31 22:50
GoblinRFDhowever Ive just googled her....Jan 31 22:50
GoblinRFDIll retract the hot commentJan 31 22:50
GoblinRFDand say in my defence that shes got sun glasses on in the photo above.Jan 31 22:50
GoblinRFDand im tiredJan 31 22:50
GoblinRFDsorry.Jan 31 22:50
GoblinRFD*Goblin hangs his head in shameJan 31 22:50
schestowitzhttp://images.google.com/images?sourceid=m...Jan 31 22:50
schestowitzShe's not the 1980s figureJan 31 22:51
GoblinRFDahJan 31 22:51
GoblinRFDThats ok then!Jan 31 22:51
schestowitzLook.. we're in page 1 there... with MccBride's picture assigned to his shillGaraJan 31 22:51
schestowitzhttp://www.prwatch.org/node/8168 "An exploiter. A scoundrel. A world historical mother******* son of a bitch. (sorry grandma)."Jan 31 22:53
schestowitz"... A couple of years ago I demanded he stop his work. Close down his company or I would sever our relationship."Jan 31 22:53
schestowitzSome criminals are truly running the US"Jan 31 22:53
schestowitzCriminals in suitsJan 31 22:53
schestowitzEven HIS SON is blasting himJan 31 22:53
schestowitzCalling him  "mother******* son of a bitch"Jan 31 22:53
Roy_B2Nice: "... perfected the art of setting up non-profit "charitable" groups to advance corporate interests."Jan 31 22:55
Roy_B2Sounds "innovative", at least? ;)Jan 31 22:55
schestowitzNo, BillG predates it :-)Jan 31 22:57
schestowitzMore news on him here: http://www.prwatch.org/node/8177Jan 31 22:57
schestowitzWhat does it take to have people like these put in prison? Also Carl Icahn, Nathan Myhrvold, etc. Isn't there a some law that separates them from society or something?Jan 31 22:58
PetoKraushmJan 31 23:01
PetoKrausthe tenenbaum case is interestingJan 31 23:01
PetoKrausat least.Jan 31 23:01
Roy_B2On Myrhvold: I remember him from the older days.  He was Bill G.'s "right hand man" and he was portrayed in the media as a sort of benign "mad scientist" character.  But then I thought, "If he has all these brilliant ideas, then why does Microsoft ever proJan 31 23:05
Roy_B2duce anything birlliant?"Jan 31 23:05
Roy_B2*don'tJan 31 23:06
schestowitzSee the mails in BNJan 31 23:07
schestowitzHe promoted vapourwareJan 31 23:07
schestowitzExplicilyJan 31 23:07
schestowitzThe guy is a little devil, not a mad scientistJan 31 23:07
schestowitzI have many Comes exhibits on him comingJan 31 23:07
Roy_B2Of course.  Those were the days before the US v. Microsoft case.Jan 31 23:07
schestowitz"right hand man" means something else.Jan 31 23:08
Roy_B2My point was that even then, something didn't quite add up.Jan 31 23:08
schestowitzBillG with the brainfarts, Nathanm with the wank... and then there's Martin Taylor which is the second evil half of of  SteveBJan 31 23:08
schestowitzThere's a control mania there which leads them to genuinely think that they fight all those "unAmerican companies"Jan 31 23:09
Roy_B2Such as IBM?Jan 31 23:10
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schestowitzBut it verge the insane..one guy, well... Rocking back and forth on a chair while Ballmer flings these bits of furniture.Jan 31 23:10
schestowitzIBM helped the NazisJan 31 23:10
schestowitzBut IBM is a country of its ownJan 31 23:10
schestowitzMicrosoft too is an international political movementJan 31 23:10
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Roy_B2There's some pushback even in the States now.Jan 31 23:11
schestowitzI'm not sureJan 31 23:11
Roy_B2i.e. a Congressman who asked how many Americans Microsoft will lay off vs. how many overseas workersJan 31 23:11
schestowitzRoy_B2: I am very concerned about the USJan 31 23:11
PetoKrausschestowitz: what's the comes trial about, basically?Jan 31 23:11
PetoKrausi'm trying to catch upJan 31 23:12
PetoKrausi didn't pay attention for last few monthsJan 31 23:12
schestowitzI think it's a greater risk to world peace than all other countries combined... much like military scaleJan 31 23:12
schestowitzAnd Obama can't change thisJan 31 23:12
schestowitzHe's just a front man to a Big MachineJan 31 23:12
schestowitzAs for IBM and Microsoft, they are bigger and more powerful than the federal governmentJan 31 23:12
schestowitzIn fact, if you were to draw levels of authorityJan 31 23:13
schestowitzThen you'd have a huge blob for companies like GM and GE that control the media even... then you'd have other companies in this cloudJan 31 23:13
schestowitzThe government is like their 'front desk'Jan 31 23:13
schestowitzIt's the shadow they cast upon the public to complain toJan 31 23:13
schestowitzBeing an illusion, the public sees it differentJan 31 23:13
schestowitzWe imagine a big powerfgul government that's symbolic of or analogous to limitaryJan 31 23:14
Ziggy1schestowitz: I think that Obama is our best chance ATM at restoring order in the US governmentJan 31 23:14
schestowitzAnd all those troops are supposedly there to defend us from those nice companies that are trying to give us money (wages) and polices by the governmentJan 31 23:14
Roy_B2Obama seems pretty shrewd and loathe to be adverserial.Jan 31 23:15
schestowitzIn reality, however, the government is polices by the coprorations in countries like the USJan 31 23:15
schestowitzUK tooJan 31 23:15
schestowitz*policedJan 31 23:15
Ziggy1it won't change overnight but it will happenJan 31 23:15
GoblinRFDIm just about to give Jackalope 9.04 daily build a test run....so ill be off soonJan 31 23:15
schestowitzZiggy1: Nader isJan 31 23:15
GoblinRFDtake care all....back laterJan 31 23:15
schestowitzZiggy1: even Ron Paul seemed decentJan 31 23:15
schestowitzHe called it like it isJan 31 23:15
schestowitzGoblinRFD: cyea l8rJan 31 23:16
Ziggy1GoblinRFD: cyaJan 31 23:16
GoblinRFDtake care all.....! - Smoke me a kipper, ill be back for breakfast.Jan 31 23:16
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schestowitzObama will find that companies ensure *he* doesn't stand in their wayJan 31 23:16
schestowitzThey did, after all, fund his campaignJan 31 23:17
schestowitzHe owes themJan 31 23:17
Ziggy1trueJan 31 23:17
Roy_B2To a lesser extent than others.Jan 31 23:17
schestowitzYesJan 31 23:18
schestowitzWhat othersJan 31 23:18
schestowitzPail and McBush?Jan 31 23:18
schestowitz*PalinJan 31 23:18
Roy_B2Still, I doubt he has the mettle to make real "change you can believe in"Jan 31 23:18
schestowitzOh, I believe in itJan 31 23:18
Roy_B2McSameJan 31 23:18
schestowitzBut we don't all believe in the same thingJan 31 23:18
schestowitzMcShameJan 31 23:19
MinceRPail :DJan 31 23:19
schestowitzTypoJan 31 23:19
Ziggy1lolJan 31 23:19
schestowitzPaleJan 31 23:19
schestowitzMaybe Freudian, but no..Jan 31 23:19
MinceRi prefer Pail (=bucket)Jan 31 23:19
schestowitzWhat's in it?Jan 31 23:19
MinceRdunnoJan 31 23:19
MinceRor perhaps Palin'?Jan 31 23:19
Roy_B2Nothing?Jan 31 23:19
schestowitzMaybe she had a wild partyJan 31 23:19
Roy_B2I guess she dreams of being the next BushJan 31 23:20
Roy_B2The last one, frighteningly enough, showed what was possible.Jan 31 23:20
MinceRhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/adydas/...Jan 31 23:21
Roy_B2That is, before him I would've considered her chances about nil.  Now, I'm not so sure ...Jan 31 23:21
schestowitzShe can't runa  countryJan 31 23:22
schestowitzPowell said the same..Jan 31 23:22
Roy_B2You mean "ruin"?Jan 31 23:22
schestowitz*run aJan 31 23:22
schestowitzNow even a countyJan 31 23:23
Roy_B2I heard she's set up a fund-raising committee.Jan 31 23:24
Roy_B2Picture of Alaska superimposed on the continental US.Jan 31 23:24
Roy_B2Sounds "pale" to me ...Jan 31 23:24
schestowitzPah!Jan 31 23:26
Roy_B2http://www.sarahpac.com/Jan 31 23:27
Roy_B2Complete with a picture of her in front of "real America" :)Jan 31 23:28
Ziggy1anyway I'm off got to go shoppingJan 31 23:29
Ziggy1c ya allJan 31 23:29
Roy_B2Ha, sounds familiarJan 31 23:29
Ziggy1brb in hourJan 31 23:30
schestowitzZiggy1: cyaJan 31 23:30
schestowitzHopefully BN will be rerun by thenJan 31 23:30
schestowitzI have things I want to postJan 31 23:31
Ziggy1do you have daily links ready?Jan 31 23:31
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schestowitzZiggy1: sort of, yes.Jan 31 23:32
schestowitzIf it's not up in a few hours, I'll post them tomorrowJan 31 23:33
Ziggy1k,anyway cyaJan 31 23:33
schestowitzI did all I can to keep the site up for 4 hours of CPU murder, so I can't have regrets :-)Jan 31 23:33
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