06.29.09
Gemini version available ♊︎GNOME’s Evolution Proceeds as Planned?
“I’d like to see Gnome applications written in .NET in version 4.0 – no, version 3.0. But Gnome 4.0 should be based on .NET.”
–“Gnome to be based on .NET – de Icaza”, 2002
Summary: The prophecy of Novell’s Miguel de Icaza is becoming true
Today in the news:
GNOME 3.0 may have more Mono apps
The next major version of the GNOME desktop environment, version 3.0, may contain more than the one Mono-dependent application than it currently does, according to GNOME Foundation member Dave Neary.
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Red Hat’s community Linux distribution, Fedora, recently decided to throw out Mono altogether from its default install, and replaced Tomboy with Gnote, a recently created port of Tomboy.
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–Ian Bruce, Novell’s PR Director
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Dylan McCall said,
June 29, 2009 at 11:57 am
That article is strange. Its only mention of Mono being included in GNOME is at the beginning, where it is stated that GNOME has shipped Tomboy with a regular release. (Is that accurate, actually? If I recall correctly, Tomboy is merely hosted on gnome.org, like fspot, and there is no current dependency on Mono. I may be out of it, though…).
The article goes on to describe two major candidates for new modules in GNOME 3.0, neither of which has anything to do with Mono. We are reminded that the people who handle GNOME releases apply common sense and try to focus on the end user experience in shipping software.
Probably the most relevant thing here is Dave Neary saying that he has yet to see a compelling module proposal written in Java. This makes lots of sense to me, given that any Java app is woefully out of place in the GNOME environment. (GTK+ is rather a necessity unless you have a Very Good Reason or just don’t have a GUI).
Otherwise, the article just says that the GNOME project is willing to support Mono apps and somehow paints that like something has changed. Really, though, it doesn’t have anything to do with Mono. This article is a ridiculous, unnecessary, very distant glimpse at GNOME’s release process.
Your article takes the article’s somewhat off topic, nearly sensationalist headline and amplifies it for no good reason. Your summary here has, from what I can see (maybe I don’t have enough space between the lines), absolutely nothing to do with the article. You are just using the link (and only the link; not the content inside of that page) as a catalyst for the latest crazed nonsense you have dreamed up.
Roy, did you RTFA?
Roy Schestowitz Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
I did. You should do the same.
DiamondWakizashi said,
June 29, 2009 at 12:30 pm
People should boycott software infected with that Mono crap.
lalala Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Hey astralknight, long time no see.
DiamondWakizashi Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Microsoft/Novell trolls are funny. LOL!
lalala Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
A person just has to look at your different names and see the connection between them and then there’s the writing style, that’s also easy to recognize.
G. Michaels Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Another comment from the BoycottNovell Perception Management Mafia ……… DOWN VOTED!!
http://www.reddit.com/user/AstralKnight/
DiamondWakizashi Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
This website has a nasty Microsoft//Novell troll infestation.
Dylan McCall Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
You don’t need to work for Microsoft or Novell to be bothered by this web site.
(Having said that, I think the crazy guessing about who is a nymshift of who needs to stop on both ends because it doesn’t achieve anything of benefit and it has the potential of really harming people who are falsely accused of it).
Roy Schestowitz said,
June 29, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Troll infestation is proportional to the degree it worries Microsoft.
twitter Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Yep.
JohnD said,
June 29, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Hmmm, I wonder – am I a troll?
Roy Schestowitz Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
No, you’re usually polite. Being biased (you work with Novell) does not make one a “troll”.
G. Michaels said,
June 29, 2009 at 4:07 pm
As long as we’re into the usual conspiracy theories, I would posit that the extraordinary efforts your nymshifters are engaged in right now is an indication that you’ve become desperate. It’s not uncommon for people in difficult situations to project that way.
In this sense, DiamonWakizashi/AstralKnight/CyberPhoenix/Mark Fink on Digg/Reddit/Mixx/Ubuntu and twitter/Erris/Mactrope/gnutoo/willeyhill/westbake/inTheLoo/Odder/ibane/deadzero/freenix/mycopywrong/GNUChop/right handed/etc on Slashdot are a valuable asset to you, no doubt.
lalala Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Thank you, I was unaware of some of those names.