Bonum Certa Men Certa

Microsoft's Joachim Kempin: “AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT RUN ON Vl[R]GIN PCs I AM AT LEAST SEMI HAPPY”

Anger arguing



Summary: Another piece of the OEM puzzle is put into place for future reference

We have previously shown anti-competitive behaviour from Joachim Kempin, Brad Silverberg [1, 2] and Brad Chase. Exhibit PX0206 (1994) [PDF] is a good one for showing this OEM-oriented group in action. Watch the following exhibit (more coming in the near future to put it within context). ⬆




Appendix: Comes vs. Microsoft - exhibit PX0206, as text








Debra Vogt

From: Joachim Kempin To: bradc; bradsi Cc: bengta; jancl; jeffl; johnj Subject: RE: I am taking a first cut at the Chicago OEM pricing Date: Tuesday, March 29, 1994 5:O7PM

MY GUYS CAME BACK WITH THE SAME THINKING. BUT I CAN’T SEE THAT WE NEED THREE SKU’S. Do You really think we need this or could we just upgrade the guy who has WIN at 99 street and everybody else pays 199 street, virgin or MS-DOS? How good will Your check be, hard core? ---------- From: Brad Chase To: Brad Silverberg; Joachim Kempin Subiect: RE: I am taking a first cut at the Chicago OEM pricing Date: Tuesday, March 29, 1994 5:16PM

we need to have the $200 product be the product for dos machines. otherwise we make it easy for oems to ship someone dr dos, pc-dos or even ms-dos and tell their customers to pay $99 for chicago. i think that sends the wrong message to our customers, a windows user should pay less than a "dos-only" customer

thoughts? **** > From joachimk Tue Mar 29 14:33:33 1994 X-MSMail-Message-ID: 84DB73AO X-MSMail-Conversation-ID: 84DBY3AO X-MSMaiI-WiseRemark: Microsoft Mail -- 3.0.729 From: Joachim Kempin To: bradc bradsi Date: Tue, 29 Mar 94 14:11:26 PST Subject: RE: I am taking a first cut at the Chicago OEM pricing Cc: joachimk

GOOD GOOD GOOD! ---------- From: Brad Silverberg To: Brad Chase; Joachim Kempin Co: Brad Silverberg Subject: RE: I am taking a first cut at the Chicago OEM pricing Date: Tuesday, March 29, 1994 11:45AM

I want to have compression into the OEM (and upgrade) product. While there is not unanimity on this yet in the product group, both paulma and I are in favo[< g >.

AS BRAD EXPLAINED TO ME. THERE WILL BE HIGHER COMPRESSION IN FROSTING, FINE WITH ME.

yes, we’ll have an sku for virgin machines with srp like $250 - $300. We don’t expect to sell much but realize we need this product.

YESSSSSSSSS!

the upgrade will work on all win machines, but what about dos machines? i believe the current plan is yes, it upgrade dos machines but i consider this an open .question still and the decision will be driven mostly by your needs.

HM, IT MIGHT ENTICE SOME HARDCORE GUYS TO JUST SHIP DOS FOREVER, BUT I

MS 505718I CONFIDENTIAL

Page 204




WOULD CALL THIS SALESMANSHIP. MEANING I CAN LIVE WITH THAT. AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT RUN ON VlGIN PCs I AM AT LEAST SEMI HAPPY.

From: Joachim Kempin To: bradc Cc: bradsi Subject: I am taking a first cut at the Chicago OEM pricing Date: Tuesday, March 29, 1994 8:58AM

I understand the frosting content and think You have a good plan there and it will not effect OEM pricing as long as I can get the basic Compression into the OEM product. I am nevertheless confused about the retail pricing, this what [ understand; You will have a $99.- street price all encompassing upgrade (incl. frosting?), a seperate frosting pack at 49.95 street. Will the upgrade be a hard core upgrade, meaning if You have no WIN on Your PC You cannot upgrade?(how good will the check be ? Easy to crack etc.? Will there be a $299 SRP reference price for a retail product for virgin PCs? The reason why I am asking is to set prices for the DSP channel. If Your street price is $99 and the product has no restrictions I will have hard time to sell to DSPs for $90 with PC bundling restrictions. So the ceiling is very important for us. I have done some more thinking on Chicago and foreward You a memo this week. Some of that needs a product group response.

MS 5057182 HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL Page 205



Credit: wallclimber

Recent Techrights' Posts

Intercontinental Brigading - Part XXIX - Undermining US Election While Engaging in Lawfare in England (BBC) Against Publishers That Cover Anti-Election Violence
The elephant in the room is back doors in voting machines
The Tower of Babel
More is not better
When Large American "Tech" Companies Can No Longer Complete Payroll
In spite of several very large waves of Dell layoffs, which the media reported on, it seems like they are still experienceng payroll problems, maybe that's why money is being borrowed
Writing for Good
The Web has an abundance of junk
 
GNU/Linux in Argentina Now Measured at 8% "Market Share"
Argentina is known for exporting skilled footballers, not advanced technology, but it has a large population, which we can hope will dump Windows
Microsoft is Borrowing Loads of Money While Telling 60,000 Workers to Take the "Offer" and Leave, Microsoft Wants Bailouts From the Dictator
Vote in elections and also vote with your wallet
Microsoft and Spoilt Food
Some whistleblowers may be needed here
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Monday, November 02, 2026
IRC logs for Monday, November 02, 2026
Links 02/11/2026: Bracing for US Election and New Zealand Has November 7 Election
Links for the day
Gemini Links 02/11/2026: Beginning With Gemini Protocol, Looking for CoCs, and Slop for Local Data
Links for the day
NDA-Compatible PIPs and RAs at IBM Red Hat
We welcome Red Hat whistleblowers who can share with us the NDA/s passed their way
GNU/Linux Rises in African's Largest Population
15% in Nigeria [...] A country with over 200 million people
The Register MS Has Just Published a Fake Article With "AI" 28 Times in the Page (Communist Party of China Entity Paid for That)
In IRC, someone has just pointed out that an article at The Register MS repeats Microsoft's lies about its financial situation
Windows Down to All-Time Low, Says statCounter, While Microsoft Tells 60,000 Workers They're No Longer Necessary
Microsoft must be feeling "salty" right now
A British Uphill Battle to Eliminate Microsoft and Its American Back Doors
There are places of work and homes where GNU/Linux is installed and regularly used, not as a mere hobby but as a hyper-productive, practical tool
Technical Coverage of US Elections
When elections are done by computers and decided by computers it becomes a tech issue
By Killing the "Linux News Section" in Softpedia (the Most Popular Section, Based on Its Editor) Softpedia Killed Itself
Enjoy Ballmer
Linkspam in "It's FOSS" Today (and It's Not Even FOSS)
free-to-access ad for some dodgy companies and the URLs are 'tampered' for cashback
Links 02/11/2026: Slop Destroying Mathematics and "Democracy is Not on the Ballot" (in US)
Links for the day
Celebrating Photography, Celebrating Life, Celebrating Magnificent Humanity, Not Plagiarism Disservices
Any time we adopt or spread slop imagery we are participating in the problem
Year-Long Celebration Starts on Saturday
This coming Saturday we turn 20
Intercontinental Brigading - Part XXVIII - Microsoft Doesn't Want People to Speak About Microsoft-Controlled Restricted ('Secure') Boot, a Silent Injustice and Back Door/Kill Switch
Can we please stop treating this as normal or acceptable?
On Desktops/Laptops, Clownflare Sees Windows at Under 60% and GNU/Linux at 15% This Past Weekend
Impressive if accurate
Microsoft Lunduke is Slop
Microsoft Lunduke is just trying to stir up hatred
Intercontinental Brigading - Part XXVII - Shooting the Messengers (People Who Oppose Microsoft Back Doors), Even Across the Atlantic
Keep this in mind later this week when a dictator either discredits the voting or covertly tampers with the voting process
Microsoft Wants 60,000 Employees Gone (One Way or Another)
At IBM, 15% of staff got marked as candidates for removal; at Microsoft it's almost 30%
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Sunday, November 01, 2026
IRC logs for Sunday, November 01, 2026
Jean-Claude Van Linus
Claude talking?
Gemini Links 01/11/2026: OpenBSD, Broken MicroHDMI, Nextcloud, and More
Links for the day
IBM Vapourware on a Budget (to Grab Bailouts From US Taxpayers)
Anderon is the sort of thing that makes IBMers uncomfortable
Links 01/11/2026: Digital Minimalism and "Palantir Cofounder Announces Cruel Plan to Breed Thousands of Lab Monkeys for Medical Experiments"
Links for the day
Microsoft Accenture in Trouble, Accenture’s Debt Skyrockets
Seeing a wave of adoption of Free software in Europe, it's not exactly shocking that "consultants" from Microsoft Accenture are no longer in demand
Microsoft Says Its "Goodwill" Value Has Been Declining for Years, But It Also Claimed That Doubled in One Year
Wall Street deserves far more criticism or scepticism (at the very least)
SkyChatz: From Nothing to #2 in IRC (in Less Than a Year)
Second only to Libera.Chat
Making Up Words or Inventing a Vocabulary
Or why Large Language Models are useless
Assange on What Lula Means to Free Press
Here in the UK we've also found our 'Lulas'
GNU/Linux is No Underdog (But There Are Attempts to Put It "To Sleep")
There's a moral imperative
Intercontinental Brigading - Part XXVI - The "Law and Order" Candidate Who Crushes Both Law and Order and Even Rejects Election Outcomes (Insurrection Follows)
A world without real technical security is a world void of democracy, justice, and human rights
Links 01/11/2026: Malaysian Media Perishing, France Belatedly Identifies Social Control Media as Weaponised Yellow Press
Links for the day
Gemini Links 01/11/2026: "Trick-or-Treating seems to be dead, at least in our neighborhood"; BaseFree Numerical System and Human Emacs
Links for the day
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Saturday, October 31, 2026
IRC logs for Saturday, October 31, 2026