Miguel de Icaza Joins Microsoft

Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2009-09-10 17:17:22 UTC
Modified: 2009-09-10 17:19:52 UTC

Summary: Novell's Miguel de Icaza becomes board member in a new Microsoft group

MICROSOFT'S EMBRACE and extend of "Open Source" makes another step further now that another "interop" announcement is near. "Is it official," asks one reader. "Has now Miguel fulfilled his lifelong dream of being an official Microsoft employee?" He links to this report which bears a deceiving headline. Here is the relevant part:

Other interim board members of the new foundation are primarily from Microsoft, at this point. They include Bill Staples, head of Microsoft’s Internet Information Services team; Stephanie Boesch, a Microsoft Program Manager for the .Net Framework; Miguel de Icaza, Vice President of Developer Platform at Novell; Britt Johnston, a Microsoft Product Unit Manager for Data and Modeling; and Shaun Walker, Co-founder and Chief Architect of DotNetNuke.

Meanwhile in his blog, de Icaza reports about progress on bringing FOSS developers to Windows [1, 2, 3] and advancing/eschewing .NET. Microsoft would surely be proud. As the Mono-Nono site puts it:

MonoDevelop is going to be the “Eclipse of the .NET community“, Mr. De Icaza tells us. Putting aside the obvious jokes, I think this is another good illustration of how the entire focus of Team Mono is – and must be – on conforming to .NET.

Here’s one of the highlights on the new MonoDevelop release: “MonoDevelop can be used to develop ASP.NET MVC applications on OSX and Linux and Silverlight applications on OSX and Linux.”

That’s just what I was saying Linux needed the other day: more Silverlight applications. In fact, I was discussing how promoting Silverlight development in no way whatsoever helps Microsoft lock-in, and quite the contrary actually encourages the spread of software freedom under every definition known to mankind. Because it is Microsoft that is internationally recognized for leverging its considerable power to promote user freedom and interoperability through its file formats and development technologies we absolutely need more of that being produced in the Linux world, which tends to use proprietary and obscured formats and languages

So MonoDevelop is a big win there. Congratulations.

Yes. Congratulations to Novell. It's almost officially part of Microsoft. ⬆

"[The partnership with Microsoft is] going very well insofar as we originally agreed to co-operate on three distinct projects and now we’re working on nine projects and there’s a good list of 19 other projects that we plan to co-operate on."

--Ron Hovsepian, Novell CEO

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seller_liar

2009-09-11 03:04:36

[00:01] I was thinking..... [00:01] Monodevelop 2.2 does not work using mono for windows [00:01] It needs .net framework 3.5 to run [00:01] This is funny [00:01] Monodevelop for windows does not work with mono for windows [00:01] NoDevelop!

This way , novell does not help to use free .net alternatives instead , it promotes the latest proprietary .net

Needs Sunlight

2009-09-11 10:12:08

That would be the goal of mono: steer managers and gullible dorks into promoting the latest M$ proprietary crap themselves.

The goal of mono is to stop developers from moving to or back to FOSS, lock out other proprietary technologies and really lock in M$.

Java, even if it were to sit still for 10 years, would still have mono beaten.

Roy Schestowitz

2009-09-11 10:47:54

Oracle would be very much committed to Java. For years it has been trying to untangle .NET, which recently turned against Oracle.

To quote some PR bunny, "Microsoft’s decision to deprecate System.Data.OracleClient has left software developers and architects wondering how best to connect .NET applications to Oracle databases. The latest release of DataDirect Connect for ADO.NET version 3.3 featuring Entity Framework support for Oracle answers the call and provides fully featured design to boost success with the Entity Framework."

aeshna23

2009-09-10 19:08:53

As Novell is increasingly Microsoftized, is the name of this website becoming irrelevant? I have an aversion to internet chat, but is talk about another name for this site part of the conversation?

On the other hand, I suppose many people still consider OpenSuse within the Linux fold, and not a traitor to the community. They need education, and so perhaps the name should remain.

What are your thoughts Roy?

Needs Sunlight

2009-09-10 19:15:59

I was just considering that, too. Not that the need to deal with Microsoft proponents has diminished, just that the scope of the problem has changed and become more well defined. Maybe the site name should reflect that change.

Register a new name and run both names. Let visitors segue to the new name over time.

Microsoft proponents, OpenSuse or Mono or others, are not just traitors to their former FOSS communities but to their home countries and home communities.
Roy Schestowitz

2009-09-10 20:20:58

The proposal was made before and I was going to do it in May, but others resisted.

Needs Sunlight

2009-09-10 18:25:08

codepox

Miguel de Icaza Joins Microsoft

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