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Bruce Perens & Debian public domain trademark promise

posted by Roy Schestowitz on Apr 28, 2024

Bruce Perens

[Article 2 years old]

Reprinted with permission from disguised.work.

The volunteer response to the Debian trademark case at WIPO contains some stunning revelations. We will serialize them over the next couple of weeks. One of the most fascinating revelations is that Debian went broke in 1998. Bruce Perens promised to put the trademark into the public domain, in other words, giving it to the real community. Who is the real community?

Normally a dispute like this would be resolved by private discussions between grown ups and these emails would never see the light of day. Jonathan Carter has told us that he can just give a whole lot of money to a lawyer and get whatever he wants. Those are the words of a bully who doesn't look volunteers in the eye, much like his predecessor Chris Lamb.

Any volunteer who saw this promise and made contributions of code to Debian is entitled to enforce this commitment through an application to cancel the Debian trademark at the US Trademark Trial and Appeal Board.

Subject: RE: Are we in this for ourselves?
Date: 18 Mar 1998 00:37:44 -0000
From: bruce@va.debian.org
To: bruce@va.debian.org, cas@taz.net.au
CC: debian-private@lists.debian.org

No, Craig, it's not good for Debian or me. While I have a lot of respect for individual developers, I can't put the same trust in the team that I once did. I'm convinced the goals I wanted to achieve for free software can no longer be achieved with Debian, and Red Hat is a good substutute because they have a good free software policy and they understand the meaning of marketing instead of having paroxisms when the word is mentioned.
I have been accepted to give 6 or 7 talks in the near future. Each of the conferences I've submitted to has had a choice of several talks from me, and _not_one_ of them chose the Debian talk. Nobody's interested. I can talk about Linux and free software without Debian, no problem.
It sounds as if SPI might go out of business. I'm currently owed $500 for two checks that I used to pay for trademarks, and we owe some money to the GNOME project. The remaining funds can be contributed to FSF or some other worthy cause. We can give the Open Source trademark to Eric Raymond, and we can place the Debian trademark in the public domain.
Thanks
Bruce

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