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• twitter

  2008-12-25 22:16:15

  Awesome:
  
  

  They are going to try to buy us, try to corrupt us, try to do anything they can to convince us to give up our principles just to make our software a little better or a little more successful. But we can do those things anyway, on our own, in the fullness of time.

  
  
  Ask Novell and Xandros, the deals are a sham. Some saw these things earlier than others. Here's RMS's excellent 1992 essay on why software should be free. This is a newer Linux FAQ that addresses the Novell issues directly:
  
  

  The widespread practice of adding non-free software to the GNU/Linux system is a major problem for our community. It teaches the users that non-free software is ok, and that using it is part of the spirit of “Linux”. Many “Linux” User Groups make it part of their mission to help users use non-free add-ons, and may even invite salesmen to come and make sales pitches for them. They adopt goals such as “helping the users” of GNU/Linux (including helping them use non-free applications and drivers), or making the system more popular even at the cost of freedom.

• Hubert

  2008-12-26 01:35:19

  LOL, are you the same guy from Slashdot that has like 100 accounts?
  
  We were talking about you the other day on IRC.

• pcolon

  2008-12-26 02:04:24

  @Twitter: We've been turning away plenty of 'Linux user helpers' from our groups lately.

• Roy Schestowitz

  2008-12-26 02:14:30

  That's not as bad as Microsoft representative contacting LUGs in order to give presentations there (true stories, and some even accepted the propositions, only to be preached about Microsoft's software patents). Did you know that Microsoft spammed all the registered Linux users in Austria?

• pcolon

  2008-12-26 03:40:27

  Didn't know about Austria, but I thought they had done something similar to a FOSS group in India, IIRC, not too long ago.
  
  Every once in a while we get together and discuss basics; What was the reason for becoming FOSS advocates, and therefore, not lose sight of what brought us together in the first place.
  
  ”If thought can corrupt language, then language can also corrupt thought.” –George Orwell.
  
  This is the campaign waged against FOSS today.

• twitter

  2008-12-26 06:11:08

  I have a few Slashdot accounts, which I use only to avoid blatant M$ censorship. People who have hundreds of accounts are interested in gaming and disruption. They hate me because I routinely prove them ineffective and thereby threaten their contracts. I'm on vacation and staying away from both IRC and Slashdot as are most normal people. I can only assume the troll are having their usual field day.
  
  Here's a nice Christmas present that I overlooked - According to the November (Fall) FSF Bulletin, BadVista.org has declared victory. Business acceptance of the sorry OS is under 6% and badvista.org continues to be in the first page of search results for "Windows Vista." Slime does not sell.

• Roy Schestowitz

  2008-12-26 09:21:21

  Sells to whom? Microsoft sells it to the OEMs. The end users are often forced to use it.

• twitter

  2008-12-26 14:59:29

  My point is that M$'s extensive disruption and astroturf campaign has failed. Vista has failed and free software is on the rise. Vendors that ignore free software are losing out and those that followed M$'s Vista only programs failed. As PJ puts it, people are not as dumb as M$ needs them to be. I'm looking for M$ to go bankrupt and for the world to become a far more pleasant place because of it.

• Jose_X

  2009-01-02 01:49:58

  >> They are going to try to buy us, try to corrupt us, try to do anything they can to convince us to give up our principles just to make our software a little better or a little more successful. But we can do those things anyway, on our own, in the fullness of time.
  
  ..the simple ability to recognize an investment. Today we have what we have because of many investments made in the past.
  
  Caution on two items:
  
  1 -- In general, no FOSS app is more important to its own future than is the rest of FOSS. Gaining a little for that app while losing a little (or a lot) for a great many other apps will lead to a net loss for that app after the short-term effects have run their course.
  
  2 -- Short term gains can become costly further on down the line. A war analogy: destroying the plant that makes ammunition in exchange for gaining a town. Wars are won/lost based on key strategic decisions way before most of the battles are fought. Superior position means you can lose and lose and lose battles and eventually win the war. Microsoft surely knows how to play that game of being patient and working for strategic advantage over adversaries. Do not take Microsoft for granted.
  
  Microsoft is more focused today to address and meet the FOSS challenge. The quote "first they ignore you.. then you win" is great but doesn't happen if we diverge from our superior long-term game plan.
  
  Want a FOSS environment that produces a lot more than what we manage today? ..work to eliminate the Microsoft levers. [eg, work to spread Linux against the Windows monopolies http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/25/jose-on-mono/#comment-39977 ]
  
  Think of the app as an individual of a species. Some actions help the app while hurting its species. If this species gets ravaged, the future will be less interesting and less enjoyable for many (for devs and for "end" users).

• Jose_X

  2009-01-02 01:53:28

  Link just given should have been http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/25/jose-on-mono/

• Roy Schestowitz

  2009-01-02 07:51:49

  Since you mentioned "war", be aware that Microsoft does characterise this as a "WAR" (in capitals).