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Quote of the Day: “Microsoft Doesn't Follow Standards, They Create Them.”

Summary: Scott Dorsey on Microsoft's behaviour in many areas

A READER sent us the following message last night:

Interesting post from an old-timer regarding Microsoft's adherence to standards. I can't find the reference, but I'm betting that it goes way back (i.e. Microsoft Mail is what they now call Exchange):






Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed-00.mathworks.com!panix!panix2.panix.com!not-for-mail From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email Subject: Re: Microsoft refuses to accept need for postmaster@ address. Date: 20 May 2009 21:15:29 -0400 Organization: Former users of Netcom shell (1989-2000) Lines: 16 Message-ID: gv29vh$iq8$1@panix2.panix.com References: f6709601-e689-4413-b3d9-27b1f0518683@j18g2000prm.googlegroups.com NNTP-Posting-Host: panix2.panix.com X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1242868530 85 166.84.1.2 (21 May 2009 01:15:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 01:15:30 +0000 (UTC) Xref: uni-berlin.de news.admin.net-abuse.email:2817085

James W Anderson jander7@hotmail.com wrote: > > > > As you have mentioned that Microsoft does not currently provide a > >Postmaster@Microsoft.com address space per RFC821 and RFC822, we do > >provide a full help and support site at http://postmaster.live.com for > >both inbound and outbound SMTP and HTTP mail transmission support > > > >So they in the end don't want to provide a valid postmaster address. > >Comments?

As the Microsoft Mail folks explained to Eric Allman when he pointed out RFC822 violations, "Microsoft doesn't follow standards, they create them." --scott







Meanwhile, there is plenty of coverage popping up about the latest news, namely the ODF Alliance's reaction to MSODF:

Slashdot: ODF Alliance: Microsoft Support for ODF is Lacking

The ODF Alliance has prepared a Fact Sheet for governments and others interested in how Microsoft's SP2 for Office 2007 handles ODF. The report revealed 'serious shortcomings that, left unaddressed, would break the open standards based interoperability that the marketplace, especially governments, is demanding.


Linux Magazine: ODF Alliance: Microsoft Support for ODF is Lacking

The Open Document Format (ODF) Alliance has analyzed whether Microsoft’s Service Pack 2 for Office 2007 fulfills the promise for compatibility with the free document standard. Their findings give little reason to hope.


There is a lot more in other languages, for example:



Microsoft does not like standards, except its own.

"What we are trying to do is use our server control to do new protocols and lock out Sun and Oracle specifically"

--Bill Gates

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