Bonum Certa Men Certa

Stallman Was Right About 'Secure' Boot (Matthew Garrett's Work Now Used to Prevent Users Adopting New Ubuntu Releases/Derivatives)

Summary: Matthew Garrett pushed a malicious 'feature' (antifeature) of Microsoft and now we all pay for it; instead of working to remove the restrictions, Garrett is nowadays working hard to remove RMS (the messenger)

MS in 2021:

You cannot upgrade Ubuntu
Sources: It's FOSS, OMG!Ubuntu and plenty more (if they make it enough of a pain or a risk, they hope people will stay with Windows and maybe use WSL, not real GNU/Linux)



RMS in 2012: Direct download as Ogg (0:13:28, 5.5 MB)

Dr. Roy Schestowitz: I want to know how big a threat you think the so-called "secure" boot is considered to be to the Free software movement.

Richard StallmanDr. Richard Stallman: It's a disaster. Well, except that it's not secure boot that's a disaster, it's restricted boot. Those are not the same. When it's front of the control of the user, secure boot is a security feature. It allows the user to control what programs can run on a machine and thus prevent -- you might say -- unexpected malware from running. We have to distinguish the unexpected malware such as viruses from the expected malware such as Windows or Mac OS or Flash Player and so on, which are also malware; they have features that hurt the user but users know what they are installing. In any case, what secure boot does is that it causes the machine to only work with (?) programs that are signed with a certain key, your keys. And as long as the user controls which keys they are, then it's a security feature. However, it can be chained into a set of digital handcuffs when the user doesn't control the keys. And this [is] happening.

"We have to distinguish the unexpected malware such as viruses from the expected malware such as Windows or Mac OS..."Microsoft demands that ARM computers sold for Windows 8 be set up so that the user cannot change the keys; in other words, turn it into restricted boot. Now, this is not a security feature. This is abuse of the users. I think it ought to be illegal.

It's a matter of control by the vendor of course, not control by the user himself

Exactly, and that's why it's wrong. That's why non-free software is wrong. The users deserve to have control of their computers/

I think that not only Windows is going to be an issue in fact, if you consider the fact that even a modified kernel is going to be in a position where it's perhaps not seen as verified for execution. Right, I'm saying, it might not only be a malicious feature in case of something like Windows running on it, it's also for -- let's say -- a user of the offered operating system but it's free if the user wants to modify the operating system, for example...

The thing is, if the user doesn't control the keys, then it's a kind of shackle, and that would be true no matter what system it is. After all, why is GNU/Linux better than Windows? Not just 'cause it has a different name. The reason it's better is because it's freedom-respecting Free software that the users control. But if the machine has restricted boot and the users can't control the system, then it would be just as bad as Windows. So, if the machine will only run a particular version of GNU/Linux, that is a restriction feature. And I haven't heard anyone doing that yet with GNU/Linux, but that's what Red Hat and Ubuntu are proposing to do things -- somewhat like that -- for future PCs that are shipped for Windows. But it's not exactly that. And my reason is, the users will be able to change the keys. They will be able to boot their own modified version of the system of Fedora or Ubuntu if they want. So, what Fedora and Ubuntu were proposing doesn't go all the way there. They're proposing to do things to make it more convenient for users to install the standard version of those systems. But if things go as it has been announced, users will still be able to change the keys and boot their own versions. So, if all the restricted boot -- but it will be something that goes sort of half-way there -- it's somewhat distasteful.

"The thing is, if the user doesn't control the keys, then it's a kind of shackle, and that would be true no matter what system it is."On the other hand, with Android, which is another mostly Free operating system which contains Linux but doesn't contain GNU, it's quite common for the product to have something equivalent to restricted boot, and people have to struggle to figure out how they can install a modified and more free version of Android. So, the presence of the kernel Linux in a system doesn't guarantee it's going to be better. And I've heard someone say -- oh, it hasn't been checked -- that a particular or kind of Android device is actually using an Intel chip with restricted boot.

One of the concerns that I think is worth raising is the fact that, as far as I know, with many of the embedded devices, especially those based on ARM, I believe it's not even possible to get into boot menu to disable so-called "secure"...

That's where Microsoft is really going all out, because Microsoft has ordered essentially -- demanded -- that those shipping ARM devices for Windows 8 make it restricted boot with no way to get around it.

Yeah, which also means of course waste of... all sorts of impacts on the environment. Any time that hardware become obsolete with the operating system itself is not being used of course...

"So it's a very damaging thing that Microsoft is doing and so we need to look for every possible way to stop them or tweak what they're doing."Well, it's worse than that. It means basically that those devices, you have to throw them out if you want to escape to the free world. And this -- in the past -- we were able to install, to liberate a computer by installing Free software on it instead of its user-restricting operation system, and this of course was tremendously helpful to the spread of GNU/Linux because it meant that users could move to freedom. It would be much harder if they had to buy another computer to do so. So it's a very damaging thing that Microsoft is doing and so we need to look for every possible way to stop them or tweak what they're doing.

As embedded (HTML5):





Keywords: UEFI Coreboot GRUB GNU FSF

Download:

Ogg Theora



Recent Techrights' Posts

Links 10/06/2025: Jaws at 50 and US Democracy Crushed Very Rapidly (Martial Law Seems Imminent)
Links for the day
Abuse Inside the Polish Patent Office (UPRP) - Part VII: Washing Their Hands After Corruption and Abuse
"Tragedy or comedy?"
Culling Bad RSS Feeds of Bad Sites
Not throwing out the baby with the bathwater
Live as You Preach
technology is fast becoming dysphoric
 
Links 10/06/2025: Apple Hype and Physical Attacks on Bloggers
Links for the day
Gemini Links 10/06/2025: Loon Lake, Farming, and Forth
Links for the day
If 'Microsoft v Techrights' is Dealt With by a 'Microsoft Court' (or a Court Outsourced to Microsoft)
More on that later
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Monday, June 09, 2025
IRC logs for Monday, June 09, 2025
Gemini Protocol Turns Six in 10 Days From Now
If you haven't tried it yet, then give it a go today
Gemini Links 09/06/2025: Addition Addiction and Nitride
Links for the day
Links 09/06/2025: Science, Hardware Projects, and Democracy Receding
Links for the day
Computers Got Smaller, So GNU/Linux Got Bigger
Many people here recognise the lack of urgency (or need) to get expensive new laptops
BetaNews is a Plagiarism and LLM Slop Hub, the Chief Editor Isn't Addressing This Problem Anymore
SS Fagioli is basically a parasite leeching off or exploiting other people's work
Links 09/06/2025: Chaos in Los Angeles and Hurricane Season
Links for the day
GNU/Linux Grows at Windows' Expense and Microsoft Trolls Infest and Maliciously Target Articles About It
Microsoft is - and has long been - organised crime
They Say I'm Mr. Bombastic
They didn't take good lawyers
Links 09/06/2025: Windows TCO and Many Data Breaches
Links for the day
Abuse Inside the Polish Patent Office (UPRP) - Part VI: Political Stunts by Former President Edyta Demby-Siwek and the Connection to Profound Corruption at EUIPO
it's like a money-laundering operation where one politician rewards another at taxpayers' expense
Gemini Links 09/06/2025: Pipelines and Splitgate
Links for the day
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Sunday, June 08, 2025
IRC logs for Sunday, June 08, 2025
Links 08/06/2025: Tiananmen Carnage Censorship Persists, North Korean Goes Offline
Links for the day
Gemini Links 08/06/2025: Love as an Ethnographic Method and Monitorix Gemini-Frontend v0.1
Links for the day
Links 08/06/2025: Exposure of More GAFAM Surveillance and Social Security Records Compromised
Links for the day
Linux Foundation is a Mediator for Microsoft et al, Not for Small Companies That Support Rather Than Attack the GPL
Many people still wrongly assume that because it is called "Linux Foundation", then it is pro-Linux and represents the same mindset
This Past Friday, Confirming What We Said All Along About Brett Wilson LLP: It's Shrinking, Has Considerable Debt, Loss of Net Assets Despite the Microsoft SLAPP Money
The documents only became publicly available less than 2 days ago
Some of the Many Reasons We Sued Microsofters for Harassment
perpetrators of harassment
For 20 Years Many People Were Sharecropping for Canonical's Oligarch, Now He's Deleting All Their Contributions
"Ubuntu has erased instead of archiving the trove of material at Ubuntu Forums"
There Was Always Too Much 'Crazy Stuff' Going on Around Freenode
What many IRC users lost sight of
Exposing Crime is Not a Crime (It Never Was)
In the eyes of rich and powerful people, those who speak about their crimes are the "criminals"
GNU/Linux Distros Abandoning Microsoft GitHub
Will curl be next to leave Microsoft GitHub?
Expect More XBox Mass Layoffs Soon If the Rumours Are True
From a Microsoft media operative
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Saturday, June 07, 2025
IRC logs for Saturday, June 07, 2025
Europe Needs to Move Away From GAFAM; The Sooner, the Better
Europe - not just the EU - must abandon GAFAM as soon as possible
The Issue Isn't GNOME's Promotion of Diversity But GNOME Corruption, Abuse, Censorship, and Worse
So-called "Conservative" (republican, pro-Trump, bigoted) people want you to think the problem with GNOME is politics
When the News Sources Become Scarce and Increasingly Full of Polluted/Contaminated 'Content' (With LLM Slop and Slop Images)
Integrity matters
"Linux" Sites That Spew Out LLM Slop
We're lacking enough material for another "Slopwatch"
Abuse Inside the Polish Patent Office (UPRP) - Part V: Breaking the Law, Just Like EPO
We'll hopefully cover some of the pertinent details later this year