09.04.08

Gemini version available ♊︎

Novell Could be Lying to Investors, Still Depends on Microsoft

Posted in Finance, Fraud, GNU/Linux, Interoperability, Marketing, Microsoft, Novell, Ron Hovsepian, SLES/SLED at 2:27 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Novell’s financial issues are a subject we have been exploring once again earlier this week. Primarily, past allegations of fraud and other scandals were looked at retrospectively, going months or years back in time to pinpoint events predating the deal with Microsoft. Prior to this, we also saw room for deception and admission of book-cooking.

Groklaw has just done another article which studies Novell’s very latest report. To its investors, there is room left for doubt and plenty to be desired. There are inconsistencies. The post is long, but here is a portion of it.

As an investor, I want to consider all possibilities, which means having all material facts available. If I am missing material pieces, it’s just guessing. I read conflicting reports about the deal, and I have no way to know which is true. You would need details. For example, we read that Microsoft bought certificates, for which it paid Novell now. So it looks like Novell just made $100 million. But once the vouchers are obtained by customers, then Microsoft gets some of the money the customer pays for the services and support, I’m thinking, or why would they do it? So exactly what is the figure that Novell really gets in the end? I have no idea, and I have no way to find out, unless they file the agreement with the SEC and let me read it.

So, what are the regulations? I had no idea, so I went to look. I hoped to be able to do some research and get a firm understanding, but the truth is, this is a subject that is, for starters, a little squishy in the wording of the regulation and a deep enough subject that lawyers and accountants who specialize in such matters go to conferences to try to keep up with latest developments in this area of speciality, so the odds of me figuring it all out in a couple of days are somewhere between slim to none. So I’ll just show you the regulation, and the exception, and let those who understand all this better than I do figure out the answer to my question: why doesn’t Novell have to reveal the terms of this agreement in a filing with the SEC? Or Microsoft? I may not know the answer, but I know it’s the right question.

There was more relevant material in the news yesterday. According to John Dragoon, Novell continues to bleed cash on SLED, which is defeated by Free (libre and gratis) GNU/Linux distributions such as Ubuntu and PCLinuxOS.

Novell is losing money in the desktop Linux market, but those desktop deals are driving big wins in the server arena, according to Senior VP and Chief Marketing Officer John Dragoon.

One might wonder just how, despite Novell’s losses in this area, the company is bragging to its investors. There is room for manipulation that we covered here before.

All that Novell has left now are those cash infusions, which are granted in exchange for favours.Novell sold out and became the vassal of Microsoft. Activities continue to revolve around .NET (or Mono), which makes Microsoft very pleased, not threatened.

.Net evangelist praises Mono for Linux

[...]

Prior to joining Microsoft about a year ago, Hansleman spent 15 years building banking systems and lived through the Web 1.0 bubble.

If Microsoft thinks Mono for GNU/Linux is good, then it must be advocating defeat for Windows, right? Or is this a trap, which also hurts Java et al along the way?

Another interesting discussion about Novell has been going on at Linux Today where GreyGeek wrote:

The agreement divided FOSS contributors into two groups: those whose contributions made it into Novell’s commercial version of SUSE, and the rest of the FOSS community regardless of which distros they contribute to. The first group was proclaimed free from the threat of a Microsoft lawsuit. The second group is under the threat of a Microsoft lawsuit regardless of which distro they contribute too, even if they contribute to openSUSE but Novell doesn’t add their contribution to SLES. However, the MAJOR thing Microsoft got out of this deal, AND FOR WHICH they paid Novell about a half a BILLION dollars, is a SIGNED agreement by Hovsepian that “Linux” (i.e., every distro on the planet) contains Microsoft IP, and for which Novell is paying Microsoft a ROYALTY on each and every copy of SLES that it sells. That ROYALTY is what Ballmer called the “IP bridge”.

As long as Novell refuses to rescind the agreement they are party to this blatant attempt at hijacking FOSS/Linux, and to their damnable lie about MS IP being in Linux. As long as they keep getting money from Microsoft I doubt they will rescind the agreement. Novell fanbois who refuse to see the plain truth about this agreement are either no friends of FOSS/GPL or, in their misguided loyalties, they refuse to see and keep their heads up their collective rears to avoid the truth.

Novell did not merely sign a deal with Microsoft. It conspired because it needed the money.

handshake black and white

Share in other sites/networks: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.
  • Reddit
  • email

Decor ᶃ Gemini Space

Below is a Web proxy. We recommend getting a Gemini client/browser.

Black/white/grey bullet button This post is also available in Gemini over at this address (requires a Gemini client/browser to open).

Decor ✐ Cross-references

Black/white/grey bullet button Pages that cross-reference this one, if any exist, are listed below or will be listed below over time.

Decor ▢ Respond and Discuss

Black/white/grey bullet button If you liked this post, consider subscribing to the RSS feed or join us now at the IRC channels.

2 Comments

  1. Ed Landaveri said,

    September 4, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    Gravatar

    Just a couple of words to add:
    “Novell did not merely sign a deal with Microsoft. It conspired because it needed the money.”

    “Judas” Novell”

  2. Ed Landaveri said,

    September 4, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    Gravatar

    Just a couple of words to add:
    “Novell did not merely sign a deal with Microsoft. It conspired because it needed the money.”

    “Judas” Novell

DecorWhat Else is New


  1. IRC Proceedings: Thursday, October 21, 2021

    IRC logs for Thursday, October 21, 2021



  2. Links 21/10/2021: MX Linux 21 and Git Contributors’ Summit in a Nutshell

    Links for the day



  3. [Meme] [Teaser] Miguel de Icaza on CEO of Microsoft GitHub

    Our ongoing series, which is very long, will shed much-needed light on GitHub and its goals (the dark side is a lot darker than people care to realise)



  4. Gemini Protocol and Gemini Space Are Not a Niche; for Techrights, Gemini Means Half a Million Page Requests a Month

    Techrights on gemini:// has become very big and we’ll soon regenerate all the pages (about 37,500 of them) to improve clarity, consistency, and general integrity



  5. 'Satellite States' of EPO Autocrats

    Today we look more closely at how Baltic states were rendered 'voting fodder' by large European states, looking to rubber-stamp new and oppressive measures which disempower the masses



  6. [Meme] Don't Mention 'Brexit' to Team UPC

    It seems perfectly clear that UPC cannot start, contrary to what the EPO‘s António Campinos told the Council last week (lying, as usual) and what the EPO insinuates in Twitter; in fact, a legal challenge to this should be almost trivial



  7. The EPO’s Overseer/Overseen Collusion — Part IXX: The Baltic States

    How unlawful EPO rules were unsurprisingly supported by Benoît Battistelli‘s friends in Baltic states; António Campinos maintained those same unlawful rules and Baltic connections, in effect liaising with offices known for their corruption (convicted officials, too; they did not have diplomatic immunity, unlike Battistelli and Campinos)



  8. Links 21/10/2021: GIMP 2.99.8 Released, Hardware Shortages, Mozilla Crisis

    Links for the day



  9. How Oppressive Governments and Web Monopolists Might Try to Discourage Adoption of Internet Protocols Like Gemini

    Popular movements and even some courageous publications have long been subverted by demonisation tactics, splits along unrelated grounds (such as controversial politics) and — failing that — technical sabotage and censorship; one must familiarise oneself with commonly-recurring themes of social control by altercation



  10. [Meme] Strike Triangulations, Reception Issues

    Financial strangulations for Benoît Battistelli‘s unlawful “Strike Regulations”? The EPO will come to regret 2013…



  11. [Meme] Is Saying “No!” to Unlawful Proposals Considered “Impolite”?

    A ‘toxic mix’ of enablers and cowards (who won’t vote negatively on EPO proposals which they know to be unlawful) can serve to show that the EPO isn’t a “social democracy” as Benoît Battistelli liked to call it; it’s just a dictatorship, currently run by the son of a person who actually fought dictatorship



  12. IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, October 20, 2021

    IRC logs for Wednesday, October 20, 2021



  13. [Meme] EPO Legal Sophistry and Double Dipping

    An imaginary EPO intercept of Administrative Council discussions in June 2013...



  14. Links 21/10/2021: PostgreSQL JDBC 42.3.0 and Maui Report

    Links for the day



  15. [Meme] [Teaser] “Judge a Person Both by His Friends and Enemies”

    Fervent supporters of Team Battistelli or Team Campinos (a dark EPO era) are showing their allegiances; WIPO and EPO have abused staff similarly over the past decade or so



  16. 'Cluster-Voting' in the European Patent Office/Organisation (When a Country With 1.9 Million Citizens Has the Same Voting Power as a Country With 83.1 Million Citizens)

    Today we examine who has been running the Finnish patent office and has moreover voted in the EPO during the ballot on unlawful "Strike Regulations"; they voted in favour of manifestly illegal rules and for 8.5 years after that (including last Wednesday) they continued to back a shady regime which undermines the EPO's mission statement



  17. The EPO’s Overseer/Overseen Collusion — Part XVIII: Helsinki's Accord

    The Finnish outpost has long been strategic to the EPO because it can help control the vote of four or more nations; evidence suggests this has not changed



  18. [Meme] Living as a Human Resource, Working for Despots

    The EPO has become a truly awful place/employer to work for; salary is 2,000 euros for some (despite workplace stress, sometimes relocation to a foreign country)



  19. Links 20/10/2021: New Redcore Linux and Hospital Adoption of GNU Health

    Links for the day



  20. IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, October 19, 2021

    IRC logs for Tuesday, October 19, 2021



  21. Links 19/10/2021: Karanbir Singh Leaves CentOS Board, GPL Violations at Vizio

    Links for the day



  22. [Meme] Giving the Knee

    The 'knee' champion Kratochvìl and 'kneel' champion Erlingsdóttir are simply crushing the law; they’re ignoring the trouble of EPO staff and abuses of the Office, facilitated by the Council itself (i.e. facilitated by themselves)



  23. Josef Kratochvìl Rewarded Again for Covering Up EPO Corruption and the EPO Bribes the Press for Lies Whilst Also Lying About Its Colossal Privacy Violations

    Corrupt officials and officials who actively enable the crimes still control the Office and also the body which was supposed to oversee it; it's pretty evident and clear judging by this week's press statements at the EPO's official Web site



  24. [Meme] Sorry, Wrong Country (Or: Slovenia isn't Great Britain)

    Team UPC is trying to go ahead with a total hoax which a high-level European court would certainly put an end to (if or when a referral is initiated)



  25. How Denmark, Iceland, Finland, Norway and Sweden Voted on Patently Unlawful Regulations at the EPO

    We look back and examine what happened 8 years ago when oppressed staff was subjected to unlawful new “regulations” (long enjoyed by António Campinos, the current EPO autocrat)



  26. The EPO’s Overseer/Overseen Collusion — Part XVII: The Non-Monolithic Nordic Bloc

    We start our investigation of how countries in northern Europe ended up voting on the unlawful “Strike Regulations” at the EPO and why



  27. Proof That Windows “11” is a Hoax

    Guest post by Ryan, reprinted with permission



  28. Firefox Becomes as Morally Reprehensible as Apple, Facebook, or Uber

    Guest post by Ryan, reprinted with permission



  29. Links 19/10/2021: GNU dbm 1.22 and Godot 3.4 RC 1

    Links for the day



  30. [Meme] [Teaser] GitHub an Expensive and Dangerous Trap (Also: Misogyny Hub)

    The ongoing Microsoft GitHub exposé will give people compelling reasons to avoid GitHub, which is basically just a subsidised (at a loss) trap


RSS 64x64RSS Feed: subscribe to the RSS feed for regular updates

Home iconSite Wiki: You can improve this site by helping the extension of the site's content

Home iconSite Home: Background about the site and some key features in the front page

Chat iconIRC Channel: Come and chat with us in real time

Recent Posts