| schestowitz |
http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/12… “Top 10 Overall Searches: 1. Britney Spears” |
Dec 01 17:50 |
| schestowitz |
World’s priority: celebs on drugs |
Dec 01 17:50 |
| kevin__ |
lol… is it 2000 again? |
Dec 01 17:50 |
| schestowitz |
yes |
Dec 01 17:50 |
| schestowitz |
I thought pr0n woul be up on top |
Dec 01 17:51 |
| twitter |
Britney Spears is porn. |
Dec 01 17:51 |
| twitter |
It’s official now, US has been in recession since Dec 2007. http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/01/news/econo… |
Dec 01 17:52 |
| twitter |
Duh. |
Dec 01 17:52 |
| schestowitz |
‘Official’? |
Dec 01 17:53 |
| schestowitz |
Why? Rich person said so? |
Dec 01 17:53 |
| twitter |
Admitted by Bush administration offices |
Dec 01 17:53 |
| schestowitz |
It’s sickening how the media treats rich and famous people as though they know better than intellectuals about some field. |
Dec 01 17:53 |
| kevin__ |
we’re all supposed to look up to them as superior beings |
Dec 01 17:54 |
| schestowitz |
Like… they ask Ballmer and Gates about the economy… well, one if a nutter the other is a lawyer… why not ask some profs at Harvard? It makes no ‘headline with big name’? |
Dec 01 17:54 |
| twitter |
It was the National Bureau of Economic Research, but yeah, fawning over rich fucks is out of control. |
Dec 01 17:54 |
| schestowitz |
BTW Greespan admitted ‘mistakes’ |
Dec 01 17:54 |
| schestowitz |
*Green |
Dec 01 17:54 |
| schestowitz |
MSVVC latches onto partner, MS: “IT firm Alchemy Plus and a wing of software giant Microsoft are involved in the £20m “cloud computing” project, earmarked for the city harbour.” http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands… |
Dec 01 17:56 |
| schestowitz |
Where was MSBBC when made it big?? |
Dec 01 17:56 |
| schestowitz |
No PR recommendation for article? |
Dec 01 17:57 |
| twitter |
CNN now also covers ignored warnings from 2006, http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/01/news/ig… |
Dec 01 17:58 |
| schestowitz |
What about 2000? |
Dec 01 17:58 |
| kevin__ |
some industries just should not be tied together… like a music store and an operating system vendor, or a news company and operating system vendor  |
Dec 01 17:58 |
| twitter |
or 1990? |
Dec 01 17:58 |
| twitter |
Don’t know. CNN is not a reliable source of information. |
Dec 01 17:58 |
| schestowitz |
“Shut up, you l00n, it’s xmas time.. gotta spend… Greenspan says it’s hey OK” |
Dec 01 17:59 |
| twitter |
I pointed to the above a exceptions to the rule. |
Dec 01 17:59 |
| schestowitz |
I was surprised to find CNN listed among Fox as tosh news. |
Dec 01 17:59 |
| kevin__ |
i heard about someone getting trampled on friday |
Dec 01 17:59 |
| schestowitz |
I used to think of the CNN more highly |
Dec 01 17:59 |
| schestowitz |
Even the BBC is garbage now. |
Dec 01 17:59 |
| kevin__ |
they developed the dirac codec, but i haven’t played with it in about a year |
Dec 01 18:00 |
| schestowitz |
I have CNN>>Technology in my RSS feeds. It’s a lot of fluffy stuff that appeals to a general audience and the wording is also suitably shallow. |
Dec 01 18:00 |
| schestowitz |
Don’t expect CNN to do an article about DRM and ACTA |
Dec 01 18:00 |
| schestowitz |
Panda bear and extinction? Well, that’s /drama/ |
Dec 01 18:01 |
| schestowitz |
Momma bear and sonny bear lose each other as Big Glacier melt and breaks off… |
Dec 01 18:01 |
| schestowitz |
That’s ‘news’… not global warning though… |
Dec 01 18:01 |
| schestowitz |
According to the press, global warning is still “undecided” and controversial” (Big Oil pumping in money into research that makes it seem so |
Dec 01 18:02 |
| kevin__ |
on the plus side, gas prices went down though |
Dec 01 18:02 |
| _doug |
schest: what Open Source apps would you recommend for Windows users ? |
Dec 01 18:03 |
| twitter |
“Nova: Ocean Animal Emergency” drama about seals getting CT scans in CA where people can’t afford basic medical care. They noticed problems and tied it to run off but larger issues slid under the radar. |
Dec 01 18:03 |
| schestowitz |
Radiation hazard in Glasgow: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgo… |
Dec 01 18:03 |
| twitter |
Debian is what I recommend for Windows users. |
Dec 01 18:03 |
| schestowitz |
_doug: Firefox, OOo, I guess.. |
Dec 01 18:04 |
| kevin__ |
gimp, audacity, openoffice.org, firefox, 7-zip |
Dec 01 18:04 |
| twitter |
Debian is a difficult install, but does not take as long to hunt down all of those other individual programs. |
Dec 01 18:04 |
| kevin__ |
7-zip can handle far more formats than windows can |
Dec 01 18:04 |
| _doug |
mobiles on the underground .. curses .. that’s the only reason I use it .. to avoid some chav yelling in my ear .. |
Dec 01 18:04 |
| schestowitz |
|
Dec 01 18:05 |
| twitter |
Mepis and Ubuntu are easier installs. |
Dec 01 18:05 |
| schestowitz |
Forget about yelling. |
Dec 01 18:05 |
| schestowitz |
They’re broadcasting next to you. |
Dec 01 18:05 |
| schestowitz |
A renowned cancer doctor warned about use of these things in buses for this reason. |
Dec 01 18:05 |
| _doug |
best Open Source apps ? ????? |
Dec 01 18:06 |
| schestowitz |
Anyway, now the police has underground surveillance too. |
Dec 01 18:06 |
| kevin__ |
i really like audacity and the gimp |
Dec 01 18:06 |
| kevin__ |
use them all the time |
Dec 01 18:06 |
| kevin__ |
… and ogg vorbis too, so i don’t have to worry about a company taking my music hostage |
Dec 01 18:07 |
| schestowitz |
I started using <video></video> in BN |
Dec 01 18:08 |
| twitter |
cool |
Dec 01 18:08 |
| schestowitz |
It triggers validation errors, but.. |
Dec 01 18:08 |
| PetoKraus |
is ffx 3.1 out? |
Dec 01 18:09 |
| PetoKraus |
or anything which can parse <video> tags and is FOSS? |
Dec 01 18:09 |
| PetoKraus |
s/which/that/g |
Dec 01 18:09 |
| schestowitz |
“Red Hat to Webcast Results for Third Quarter Fiscal Year 2009 [...] will discuss results of its third quarter fiscal 2009 on Monday, December 22, 2008, beginning at 5:00 p.m. ET.” < http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news… > |
Dec 01 18:09 |
| kevin__ |
what about software that can nab flash videos by capturing the raw packets? |
Dec 01 18:10 |
| schestowitz |
Same as last year. JIT for Xmas |
Dec 01 18:10 |
| schestowitz |
I came back from the Xmas party to see in LinuxToday that Red Hat results were up and the CEO was out |
Dec 01 18:10 |
| schestowitz |
That’s one year for James Whitehurst. So far, so good. |
Dec 01 18:10 |
| kevin__ |
they developed network manager, which has done a lot of people a lot of good |
Dec 01 18:11 |
| schestowitz |
PetoKraus: I make a link to the Ogg too and if <video> is not supported, then it says so and links to the FF3.1 page |
Dec 01 18:11 |
| schestowitz |
Example here: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/29… |
Dec 01 18:11 |
| schestowitz |
Down the middle (see the video). I give 4 options: YouTube, embedded, Ogg, or embedded Ogg |
Dec 01 18:12 |
| kevin__ |
how is the quality of theora now that it’s 1.0? |
Dec 01 18:13 |
| schestowitz |
Novell’s volunteer ‘marketer’ is at it again: new upload: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=g45YkIVF4n0 |
Dec 01 18:14 |
| schestowitz |
He wrote a comment in BN the other day (last one here: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/10/07/novel… ) |
Dec 01 18:14 |
| _doug |
DivX .. what players support it ? |
Dec 01 18:15 |
| kevin__ |
i imagine vlc would |
Dec 01 18:15 |
| _doug |
I’ve noticed WMP says codec missing and refuses to fetch it .. unless it’s certified … |
Dec 01 18:17 |
| _doug |
VLC will play the media, without complaint .. |
Dec 01 18:18 |
| schestowitz |
This too was in the Novell feed: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FuFp4cjnV2A (WTF?) |
Dec 01 18:18 |
| _doug |
MArket-locking through the use of secret codecs … |
Dec 01 18:18 |
| kevin__ |
wmp also applied copy prevention to your imported music by default |
Dec 01 18:18 |
| schestowitz |
Silver Lies. |
Dec 01 18:18 |
| kevin__ |
looking out for the customer and their ability to transfer their music to another pc as usual |
Dec 01 18:19 |
| schestowitz |
EU Commission still studies this poisonware…? |
Dec 01 18:19 |
| *schestowitz adds poisonware to ispell file |
Dec 01 18:19 |
| schestowitz |
PJ interview: http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2008/11/t… |
Dec 01 18:20 |
| schestowitz |
Wot da fork? Is ACCESS entertaining Windows Mobile now too..? http://www.marketwatch.com/news/stor… |
Dec 01 18:29 |
| MinceR |
:/ |
Dec 01 18:32 |
| MinceR |
well, since palm doesn’t want to buy APL, maybe they have to |
Dec 01 18:32 |
| schestowitz |
They ought to consider Android. |
Dec 01 18:34 |
| schestowitz |
Others think so too. |
Dec 01 18:34 |
| schestowitz |
Android is nice. I saw it in action… it’s not just for phones, either. |
Dec 01 18:34 |
| kevin__ |
how many other exclusionary deals has ms done in the past? i know of at least one: the playsforsure one, but it fell through |
Dec 01 18:34 |
| schestowitz |
I hope someone forks the heck out of Android to make it truly Google-independent |
Dec 01 18:35 |
| kevin__ |
they wanted to say “if your hardware supports playsforsure, you can’t support any other codecs” |
Dec 01 18:35 |
| schestowitz |
kevin__: I don’t think it’s exclusive, |
Dec 01 18:35 |
| schestowitz |
It mentioned Linux at the bottom |
Dec 01 18:35 |
| schestowitz |
It’s just more like Qtokia |
Dec 01 18:35 |
| twitter |
and they got it, one way or another. Ogg playback was pushed back for years. |
Dec 01 18:35 |
| _doug |
US antitrust trial against Microsoft unported to Youtube .. |
Dec 01 18:36 |
| _doug |
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?st… |
Dec 01 18:36 |
| schestowitz |
Microsoft Jack says that we should let the oggs rest. Right, _doug? |
Dec 01 18:36 |
| schestowitz |
_doug: that’s old news |
Dec 01 18:36 |
| schestowitz |
I put it in BN last month.Bioth videos |
Dec 01 18:37 |
| _doug |
re: OGG: What’s the point of having a codec that no one owns ? |
Dec 01 18:37 |
| schestowitz |
Where’s the $$? |
Dec 01 18:37 |
| schestowitz |
Bad for the economy |
Dec 01 18:37 |
| kevin__ |
no ties to any one playform/device |
Dec 01 18:37 |
| kevin__ |
platform* |
Dec 01 18:37 |
| twitter |
the point of a free codec is that no one can control it and everyone can use it. What device maker WANTS to pay licenses they don’t have to? |
Dec 01 18:38 |
| kevin__ |
it has nothing to do with illegally distributing content which they would have you believe, because most average people don’t even know what it is |
Dec 01 18:38 |
| twitter |
EEE PC uses ogv as a default. |
Dec 01 18:38 |
| kevin__ |
many games do too |
Dec 01 18:38 |
| _doug |
twitter, kevin .. you just said what the entire tech press don’t seem to get .. |
Dec 01 18:38 |
| *schestowitz on phone |
Dec 01 18:38 |
| _doug |
DRM is nothing about illegal content, is about achieving total lock-in on the desktop .. |
Dec 01 18:39 |
| schestowitz |
File-level lock-in |
Dec 01 18:40 |
| kevin__ |
they still don’t support it out of the box either (wmp that is) |
Dec 01 18:41 |
| kevin__ |
but of course we can just install a filter |
Dec 01 18:41 |
| MinceR |
android is evil. |
Dec 01 18:41 |
| MinceR |
it’s just another retarded java phone platform. |
Dec 01 18:41 |
| kevin__ |
it can’t be as bad as the iphone |
Dec 01 18:41 |
| MinceR |
it isn’t that bad |
Dec 01 18:42 |
| kevin__ |
they’re like the mafia, taking 30% of people’s revenues when they sell apps, and they can remove your app from the store just because they feel like it |
Dec 01 18:42 |
| MinceR |
but i think it’s worse than windows mobile |
Dec 01 18:42 |
| MinceR |
wm at least lets you write native code. |
Dec 01 18:42 |
| schestowitz |
Mandriva does a conference… http://www.netbookworldsummit.org/ |
Dec 01 18:54 |
| schestowitz |
Blech. Microsoft puppets (IDC): “Eszter Morvay, Senior Research Analyst at IDC (European Personal Computing),” |
Dec 01 18:54 |
| schestowitz |
Intel.. “The message is still the same: Are you sure that you want something like this? And if you really are, would you be willing to wait until ‘some time in the future’ (when W7 is out) instead of buying one now (which might be running Linux). ” < http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn… > |
Dec 01 18:57 |
| schestowitz |
http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?l… “The netbook concept is the proof that for most needs (e-mail, web and basic office work) a processor and platform like the Atom is more than enough. Vista has been a failure, GNU/Linux is still widely unknown to many people, and Apple is out of reach ($$$).” |
Dec 01 18:58 |
| schestowitz |
“This product has low margins, so we really wish people wouldn’t buy them. And we really wish Asus had never been so dang insistent on . . . *competing* (horrid word) that they started selling them in the first place. We’d rather sell low-end chips than no chips at all so we’ll keep on supplying, but this is all just too terribly awful for words.” |
Dec 01 18:59 |
| schestowitz |
http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=20… These are responses to Intel’s whine about price-fixing replaced by a ‘netbook’ monopoly that follows abuse |
Dec 01 18:59 |
| schestowitz |
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008… … The $62,550 machine no one bought |
Dec 01 19:01 |
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Dec 01 19:08 |
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Dec 01 19:08 |
| schestowitz |
This doesn’t look right: http://www.untangle.com/ This company make a commercial GNU/Linux distro, but watch the icon on the top right. |
Dec 01 19:20 |
| _doug |
Re-RouterTM technology ? |
Dec 01 19:23 |
| schestowitz |
What about the image? |
Dec 01 19:24 |
| _doug |
For WindowsXP ? |
Dec 01 19:24 |
| schestowitz |
Yes |
Dec 01 19:24 |
| schestowitz |
I didn’t click on it to checl. |
Dec 01 19:25 |
| schestowitz |
Just made a quick observation like yours, which is very fruitful sometimes. |
Dec 01 19:25 |
| schestowitz |
I’ll write about the IV thing later… helps organise and document notes |
Dec 01 19:25 |
| _doug |
“network-wide protection from any Windows XP desktop” |
Dec 01 19:25 |
| _doug |
What kind of protection would a desktop provide ? |
Dec 01 19:26 |
| schestowitz |
Maybe some client-side controller. |
Dec 01 19:26 |
| schestowitz |
The assumption is that if there is legal action we need to be equipped with info to be used, e.g. for firing back. |
Dec 01 19:26 |
| _doug |
firewall, application level ? |
Dec 01 19:27 |
| schestowitz |
Does Gates have an harassment front other than IV? Is there new evidence about Acacia? |
Dec 01 19:27 |
| schestowitz |
Is somewhat watching who joins them? |
Dec 01 19:28 |
| _doug |
It’s a tangled web .. |
Dec 01 19:28 |
| schestowitz |
Nov 21: http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/v… (Acacia Subsidiary Acquires Rights to Patents for Improved Lighting Technology) |
Dec 01 19:28 |
| schestowitz |
Acacia Research To Present At UBS Global Technology And Services Conference < http://www.centredaily.com/business/te… > |
Dec 01 19:29 |
| Omar87 |
schestowitz: You GOTTA write about this: http://www.tribbleagency.com/?p=3159 !  |
Dec 01 19:33 |
| Omar87 |
Microsoft using Apple netbooks and Playstation joystick for their ads! |
Dec 01 19:33 |
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Dec 01 19:34 |
| Omar87 |
joysticks* |
Dec 01 19:34 |
| *MinceR_ (n=mincer@unaffiliated/mincer) has joined #boycottnovell |
Dec 01 19:34 |
| schestowitz |
Omar87: I think it’s a stolen post |
Dec 01 19:35 |
| Omar87 |
MinceR: You might wanna take a look at this: http://www.tribbleagency.com/?p=3159 |
Dec 01 19:35 |
| schestowitz |
Rami wrote about this. |
Dec 01 19:35 |
| schestowitz |
I liked to it. |
Dec 01 19:35 |
| Omar87 |
linked* |
Dec 01 19:35 |
| schestowitz |
Rami also reads Boycott Novell. |
Dec 01 19:35 |
| Omar87 |
Rami? |
Dec 01 19:35 |
| schestowitz |
http://hehe2.net/ |
Dec 01 19:35 |
| *MinceR has quit (Dead socket) |
Dec 01 19:35 |
| schestowitz |
“369 Comments” http://hehe2.net/linux-general/microsoft-usi… |
Dec 01 19:36 |
| Omar87 |
schestowitz: Maybe it’s not stolen, Roy, maybe it’s just another website writing about the same incident. |
Dec 01 19:36 |
| schestowitz |
Maybe. |
Dec 01 19:37 |
| schestowitz |
http://hehe2.net/contact/ |
Dec 01 19:37 |
| schestowitz |
Oh wait… |
Dec 01 19:37 |
| schestowitz |
“This is bad considering it’s currently on the main page of Digg. .. Some Agency has Microsoft Windows Vista promotional ads.. well.. displaying Apple Notebooks and PlayStation joysticks.. Good Job whoever this firm is…” |
Dec 01 19:37 |
| schestowitz |
So he basically copied this from Digg, i.e. Rami |
Dec 01 19:38 |
| twitter |
A lot of big box stores were using OSX screen shots to sell laptops with Vista a while back. |
Dec 01 19:39 |
| schestowitz |
They should use Compiz on high-end PCs with frontal screen shots… Microsoft is still pushing Linux out of stores |
Dec 01 19:41 |
| schestowitz |
But it calls it incentives |
Dec 01 19:42 |
| schestowitz |
It doesn’t pay to exclude Linux… it pays (or compensates) in only WIndows is displayed |
Dec 01 19:42 |
| schestowitz |
Same thing, different explanations |
Dec 01 19:42 |
| twitter |
I hear they gave CompUSA, Circuit City and DSG a lot of “incentives” – good business! |
Dec 01 19:43 |
| schestowitz |
Microsoft did not bribe in Nigeria |
Dec 01 19:43 |
| schestowitz |
It just paid for \marketing help’ |
Dec 01 19:43 |
| schestowitz |
Vista capable fiasco has them further exposed. |
Dec 01 19:43 |
| -tomaw-[Global Notice] Hi! One of our servers had a short-lived problem causing some users to be disconnected. It should be back online now, sorry for the downtime and thanks for using freenode! |
Dec 01 19:44 |
| twitter |
Vista capable is, of course, the tip of the iceberg. |
Dec 01 19:44 |
| _doug |
RPX Corporation -> Transmeta -> Intellectual Ventures -> Novafora -> charles river ventures .. |
Dec 01 19:44 |
| twitter |
Someone was asking what exclusives M$ had. The answer is everything. Drivers, browsers, every kind of program you can think of – they want it exclusively. |
Dec 01 19:45 |
| schestowitz |
twitter fp? http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?si… |
Dec 01 19:45 |
| twitter |
A company that asks for exclusivity in one thing will ask for it everywhere. |
Dec 01 19:46 |
| _doug |
William P. Tai .. plans to retire .. at Charles River Ventures, a venture capital firm .. |
Dec 01 19:46 |
| twitter |
yeah, that’s me. See the related firehose to see. |
Dec 01 19:46 |
| Omar87 |
I just wonder, why don’t M$ make their own laptops? |
Dec 01 19:47 |
| twitter |
because they can’t? |
Dec 01 19:47 |
| Omar87 |
lol |
Dec 01 19:47 |
| schestowitz |
_doug: RPX? Where? |
Dec 01 19:47 |
| schestowitz |
And RPX closes a loop |
Dec 01 19:48 |
| schestowitz |
RPX is made out of IV employees |
Dec 01 19:48 |
| Omar87 |
twitter: why can’t they? |
Dec 01 19:48 |
| twitter |
their business model depends on treating OEMs as “commodity” vendors, all selling Windows. |
Dec 01 19:48 |
| schestowitz |
Omar87: see Zune for details. |
Dec 01 19:49 |
| schestowitz |
Or XBox360… 67% failure rate… $7 billion in losses |
Dec 01 19:49 |
| twitter |
Oh yeah, technical competence and greed are extenuating factors. |
Dec 01 19:49 |
| Omar87 |
twitter: and how come they can’t build laptops, while they can build MS Surface? |
Dec 01 19:49 |
| Omar87 |
lol |
Dec 01 19:49 |
| schestowitz |
*LOL* |
Dec 01 19:50 |
| twitter |
If M$ ever made a laptop, every brand and OEM would hit the GNU/Linux exit and M$ would fail. |
Dec 01 19:50 |
| schestowitz |
Surface… the $15000 ‘PC’ nobody wants… or can fit in the house… or will program for. |
Dec 01 19:51 |
| schestowitz |
It was going to be aborted… killed before birth… that’s how bad it is. |
Dec 01 19:51 |
| twitter |
I think that happened to Vista one or twice. |
Dec 01 19:51 |
| schestowitz |
They must have lost hundreds of millions on this project so far. |
Dec 01 19:51 |
| schestowitz |
Once I think. |
Dec 01 19:51 |
| schestowitz |
Vista was put in the wastebasket in 2005 |
Dec 01 19:52 |
| twitter |
Vista7 will make 2. |
Dec 01 19:52 |
| schestowitz |
Allchin came to the office saying that it couldn’t be run… or worked out… |
Dec 01 19:52 |
| schestowitz |
It was time to “reboot” (their own word) |
Dec 01 19:52 |
| schestowitz |
But DRM stayed |
Dec 01 19:52 |
| twitter |
XP drivers were dumped. |
Dec 01 19:52 |
| schestowitz |
Now that crow about a new thing. |
Dec 01 19:52 |
| schestowitz |
In the news you find mentionings of SP2 for Vista. |
Dec 01 19:53 |
| twitter |
All vapor. |
Dec 01 19:53 |
| schestowitz |
Vista was a rushed job of dressing up XP |
Dec 01 19:53 |
| twitter |
I saw someone complaining that XP had been sabotaged by the latest “updates” |
Dec 01 19:53 |
| Omar87 |
schestowitz: ROFLMAO!! |
Dec 01 19:53 |
| schestowitz |
The investors waited 6 years for a release of the crown ‘jewel’ |
Dec 01 19:53 |
| twitter |
I know they slipped XP the Genuine Advantage and black screen of death. |
Dec 01 19:54 |
| schestowitz |
Making Vista was like that Mr. Bean scene where he dresses up in the car and brushes his teeth on the way to work (driving)… http://www.mchenrycountyblog.com/upload… |
Dec 01 19:55 |
| schestowitz |
twitter: they are permitted to change Windows on /your/ PC… it’s in the EULA. |
Dec 01 19:56 |
| schestowitz |
You rent deformable binaries that reside on your chips |
Dec 01 19:56 |
| _doug |
cutting edge technologies developed in Microsoft .. |
Dec 01 19:59 |
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Dec 01 19:59 |
| twitter |
Sure, but if it’s true it’s all the more reason to go GNU/Linux |
Dec 01 19:59 |
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Dec 01 19:59 |
| twitter |
divide by zero _doug? |
Dec 01 20:00 |
| _doug |
I guess .. |
Dec 01 20:00 |
| _doug |
I’ve seen #6 on Youtube .. |
Dec 01 20:00 |
| _doug |
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw |
Dec 01 20:03 |
| twitter |
Sponsored by the letter C ? |
Dec 01 20:03 |
| twitter |
Paper documents sheeple behavior in music http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?… |
Dec 01 20:03 |
| _doug |
James Bond uses the MS interactive table .. |
Dec 01 20:04 |
| _doug |
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny… |
Dec 01 20:05 |
| twitter |
Equilibrium is like that, it has no defined state. A critical reactor has no particular power level, a neutral buoyancy object has no particular elevation. These systems go where they are pushed. |
Dec 01 20:05 |
| twitter |
Broadcast pushes, people follow. |
Dec 01 20:05 |
| _doug |
re: #6, the Youtube video demo, used a camera to follow the hands on the underside of the screen. |
Dec 01 20:06 |
| *MinceR_ is now known as MinceR |
Dec 01 20:07 |
| twitter |
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/projects/wii/ , ” software on this page is primarily meant for developers and may not run without proper the development tools installed.” He mentions C# and other M$ tools but nothing proper. |
Dec 01 20:09 |
| _doug |
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qbMQ7urAvuc |
Dec 01 20:09 |
| MinceR |
Omar87: i don’t see the issue — windows runs on crApple PC-s and playstation gamepads use USB :> |
Dec 01 20:10 |
| _doug |
Lucid Touch: good idea, now how to sispense with the camera, how about a touch sensitive screen on both sides ? |
Dec 01 20:11 |
| twitter |
http://www.wiili.org/index.p… |
Dec 01 20:11 |
| _doug |
“The Microsoft and Mitsubishi research departments” |
Dec 01 20:12 |
| _doug |
http://www.networkworld.com/commu… |
Dec 01 20:12 |
| _doug |
Ah, I figure the INNOV~1 didn’t originate at REDMO~1 |
Dec 01 20:13 |
| _doug |
Patrick Baudisch .. started at Xerox PARC .. |
Dec 01 20:14 |
| twitter |
artificial vision is not a M$ invention by a long shot. |
Dec 01 20:14 |
| schestowitz |
True. |
Dec 01 20:15 |
| schestowitz |
It’s simpe geometry |
Dec 01 20:15 |
| _doug |
Gerry Chu .. Xerox summer 2005 … |
Dec 01 20:15 |
| schestowitz |
Well, stereovision related. |
Dec 01 20:15 |
| schestowitz |
Microsoft hired this chap. |
Dec 01 20:15 |
| schestowitz |
Some articles were published about the lawyer who dumpster-dived for code noticing the video. |
Dec 01 20:15 |
| twitter |
The bottom line of M$ exclusive deals – you won’t see mass produced PC hardware that does anything innovative unless they do it on M$ first. |
Dec 01 20:16 |
| schestowitz |
I think the new bit here is the Wiimote as input device |
Dec 01 20:16 |
| schestowitz |
As in… given my XYZ coords, then do the routine calculation for position of objects (relative to position) |
Dec 01 20:16 |
| _doug |
Woops, someone thinks they innovated it before MS .. |
Dec 01 20:17 |
| _doug |
http://www.networkworld.com/communi… |
Dec 01 20:17 |
| _doug |
“I presented our backside touch technology to some touch sensor guys at MS research last June. They did not have a clue. It may be a coincidence but we disclosed our target applications very similar to those describe in the video” |
Dec 01 20:17 |
| schestowitz |
Microsoft subnet |
Dec 01 20:17 |
| twitter |
well, sub millimeter infrared positioning is routine in cancer treatment. |
Dec 01 20:17 |
| _doug |
Never !!! |
Dec 01 20:17 |
| schestowitz |
That’s where ppl jump for dollers.. |
Dec 01 20:17 |
| schestowitz |
dollaz’ |
Dec 01 20:17 |
| twitter |
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=… |
Dec 01 20:21 |
| twitter |
bbl |
Dec 01 20:21 |
| twitter |
one last note, M$FT breaks $19 again, http://finance.google.com/finance?… |
Dec 01 20:23 |
| twitter |
ding, ding, ding. |
Dec 01 20:23 |
| trmanco |
Gates and Seinfeld Ads Voted Top ‘Bad’ Commercial: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Gates-and-Sei… |
Dec 01 20:23 |
| schestowitz |
What does the sing signal? Sales of furniture in Redmond? |
Dec 01 20:24 |
| trmanco |
“In fact, according to the Anderson Analytics 2008 fall survey involving college students, Microsoft could not have done any worse than to produce those video advertisements.” |
Dec 01 20:24 |
| schestowitz |
*ding |
Dec 01 20:24 |
| schestowitz |
A shame for Jerry.. |
Dec 01 20:24 |
| schestowitz |
Not only does he end up looking like a prick but he also departs as a loser. |
Dec 01 20:24 |
| schestowitz |
I used to like his show.. |
Dec 01 20:25 |
| _doug |
schest: what can we do to make Microsoft cool again :> |
Dec 01 20:25 |
| schestowitz |
I have an ides… |
Dec 01 20:26 |
| schestowitz |
I have an idea… |
Dec 01 20:26 |
| _doug |
Seinfeld: I never got the humor ? |
Dec 01 20:26 |
| schestowitz |
Make a memorable video: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=m6rqXHX3O48 |
Dec 01 20:26 |
| _doug |
a show about nothing ? |
Dec 01 20:26 |
| MinceR |
i think we can only destroy them. if they want to be cool and persist, only they can do that. |
Dec 01 20:26 |
| MinceR |
they need to change to become cool. |
Dec 01 20:26 |
| MinceR |
(and by “we”, i mean “everyone except microsoft”) |
Dec 01 20:28 |
| _doug |
get serious Schest, leave the man alone … |
Dec 01 20:28 |
| schestowitz |
OK |
Dec 01 20:28 |
| schestowitz |
It’s a funny video |
Dec 01 20:29 |
| trmanco |
looool |
Dec 01 20:30 |
| trmanco |
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-1… |
Dec 01 20:33 |
| trmanco |
Mac fan |
Dec 01 20:33 |
| _doug |
For real funny see: ‘Kids in the Hall’ a Canadian MonthyPython type sketch show .. |
Dec 01 20:33 |
| trmanco |
“Indeed. While Moody would undoubtedly like to see more of that Vista angst turn into Linux love, it’s more likely that it’s helping the Mac, which saw its market share jump again in November to nearly 9 percent, according to Net Applications.” |
Dec 01 20:33 |
| schestowitz |
trmanco: I don’t read him anymore |
Dec 01 20:34 |
| schestowitz |
he’s misleading people who think he has something to do with freedom. |
Dec 01 20:34 |
| schestowitz |
_doug: got Tuby URL? |
Dec 01 20:35 |
| trmanco |
Windows is going down -> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?… |
Dec 01 20:35 |
| _doug |
Tuby URL ? |
Dec 01 20:37 |
| schestowitz |
YouTube |
Dec 01 20:38 |
| schestowitz |
Couldn’t say Tubby… like hugeurl |
Dec 01 20:38 |
| MinceR |
teletubby? |
Dec 01 20:39 |
| MinceR |
hugeurl ftw |
Dec 01 20:39 |
| schestowitz |
IDG BS |
Dec 01 20:39 |
| schestowitz |
They make it sounds like it’s a fact. |
Dec 01 20:39 |
| schestowitz |
Like it has only just happened. |
Dec 01 20:39 |
| schestowitz |
They give validity to numbers that are based on REFERRALS between site. |
Dec 01 20:39 |
| schestowitz |
What does that mean? Does that say anything about… what? |
Dec 01 20:40 |
| _doug |
“The more home users who are online, using Macs and Firefox and Safari, the more those shares go up,” |
Dec 01 20:40 |
| schestowitz |
It reminds me of articles that say “Windows most secure” |
Dec 01 20:40 |
| schestowitz |
Instead of “Microsoft claims Windows is most scure” |
Dec 01 20:40 |
| _doug |
What’s the linkage between browser and stock value ? |
Dec 01 20:40 |
| _doug |
“Windows’ share typically falls on weekends and after work hours, as users surf from home computers, a larger percentage of which run Mac OS X than do work machines.” |
Dec 01 20:41 |
| _doug |
EXCUSE~1 yea .. |
Dec 01 20:41 |
| schestowitz |
What is work hours? |
Dec 01 20:41 |
| schestowitz |
Australia? China? America? |
Dec 01 20:42 |
| _doug |
Home users mostly use OS X .. that’s news to me .. |
Dec 01 20:42 |
| PetoKraus |
home users? |
Dec 01 20:42 |
| schestowitz |
Ohn users |
Dec 01 20:42 |
| PetoKraus |
hmm fkn nvidia |
Dec 01 20:43 |
| PetoKraus |
http://www.archlinux.org/news/424/ |
Dec 01 20:43 |
| _doug |
question: how do they know browsert sharte dips at the weekend ? |
Dec 01 20:44 |
| PetoKraus |
isn’t 20% actually nice number? |
Dec 01 20:44 |
| _doug |
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx… |
Dec 01 20:45 |
| PetoKraus |
isn’t 20% actually nice number? |
Dec 01 20:45 |
| PetoKraus |
i saw that link, that’s why i’m asking |
Dec 01 20:45 |
| _doug |
OS usage says the Mac is at 8.87% .. browser usage is at 7.13% .. what are the other 1.74 MAc users browsing on ? |
Dec 01 20:47 |
| PetoKraus |
ffx? |
Dec 01 20:47 |
| _doug |
gtg |
Dec 01 20:47 |
| *_doug has quit () |
Dec 01 20:47 |
| schestowitz |
http://planet.gentoo.org/developer… |
Dec 01 20:52 |
| trmanco |
http://www.physorg.com/news147353055.html |
Dec 01 21:07 |
| trmanco |
Linux Evolution Reveals Origins of Curious Mathematical Phenomenon |
Dec 01 21:07 |
| schestowitz |
Seen it,thanks |
Dec 01 21:11 |
| schestowitz |
This is nice too: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3781 |
Dec 01 21:11 |
| schestowitz |
Microsoft on the outer of schools funding < http://www.australianit.news.com.au/st… > |
Dec 01 21:27 |
| schestowitz |
Turns out this this guy who mailed me if a former Softie :-S <http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/20… > |
Dec 01 21:27 |
| twitter |
_doug, GPLing all M$ their code will go a long way towards convincing people M$ is no longer evil, if it does not make them “cool” |
Dec 01 21:33 |
| twitter |
heh, that crappy book downloads 99% and closes the connection every time. http://www.lulu.com/items/volume_64/4964000/4964… |
Dec 01 21:54 |
| twitter |
wget retried five times before I gave up. |
Dec 01 21:54 |
| twitter |
I wonder if Cox is playing traffic games again. |
Dec 01 21:55 |
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Dec 01 22:01 |
| twitter |
absolutely unbelievable funny, http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?o… |
Dec 01 22:09 |
| schestowitz |
Don’t miss Stuart the Microsoftvell apologist: http://www.businessweek.com/technology/conten… |
Dec 01 22:12 |
| twitter |
What a weenie. In the same breath that he notes how successful Red Hat is, he sets up a straw man and implies Red Hat is like M$, not meeting investor expectations. |
Dec 01 22:17 |
| *schestowitz should have a good post coming |
Dec 01 22:17 |
| schestowitz |
twitter: he’s considered part of the issue at OSDL. |
Dec 01 22:17 |
| schestowitz |
I will write about this in BN later |
Dec 01 22:18 |
| twitter |
I hope he’s sitting on a pile of M$FT bought at $58/share. |
Dec 01 22:20 |
| schestowitz |
http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/01/l… |
Dec 01 22:35 |
| schestowitz |
This is probably worth a FP in big sites |
Dec 01 22:35 |
| twitter |
I agree, that’s a big deal. |
Dec 01 22:52 |
| twitter |
Most tech people know that Dell does not mean it when they say, “Dell recommends Vista,” but this proof that should have leaked out long ago. |
Dec 01 22:53 |
| twitter |
I’m having a look at the “confidential” guidebook. |
Dec 01 22:53 |
| twitter |
did you look for metatags that might give away your leak? |
Dec 01 22:56 |
| schestowitz |
I threw away the ‘shells’ |
Dec 01 22:57 |
| schestowitz |
It should be stripped off evidence. |
Dec 01 22:57 |
| MinceR |
it could do with a bit more context though |
Dec 01 22:57 |
| schestowitz |
True, but I’m in a hurry (more posts) |
Dec 01 22:58 |
| twitter |
I gave it a look and did not see anything obvious but I’m not a PDF expert and M$ could have included binary tags if they were with it. |
Dec 01 23:03 |
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Dec 01 23:08 |
| wispy |
heyyy roy! |
Dec 01 23:08 |
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Dec 01 23:12 |
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Dec 01 23:12 |
| wispy |
anyone there? |
Dec 01 23:12 |
| PetoKraus |
sure |
Dec 01 23:12 |
| wispy |
oh hey |
Dec 01 23:12 |
| PetoKraus |
just i guess he’s doing something |
Dec 01 23:12 |
| PetoKraus |
<schestowitz> True, but I’m in a hurry (more posts) [23:07] |
Dec 01 23:13 |
| wispy |
he was just active on digg, i checked |
Dec 01 23:13 |
| wispy |
30 mins ago |
Dec 01 23:13 |
| wispy |
oh ok |
Dec 01 23:13 |
| wispy |
i’ll come back later, see ya |
Dec 01 23:13 |
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Dec 01 23:13 |
| schestowitz |
Oops. |
Dec 01 23:18 |
| schestowitz |
Was writing some stuff. |
Dec 01 23:18 |
| PetoKraus |
hehe |
Dec 01 23:21 |
| PetoKraus |
perfect timing |
Dec 01 23:21 |
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Dec 01 23:24 |
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Dec 01 23:34 |
| twitter |
OK, here are a couple of submissions based on some of today’s more explosive content. |
Dec 01 23:36 |
| twitter |
Former M$ Programmer Writes FOSS Book. http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view… |
Dec 01 23:37 |
| twitter |
and the interesting leak, “The Nuts and Bolts of M$ OEM Manipulation,” http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op… |
Dec 01 23:40 |
| schestowitz |
That writer wrote to me. |
Dec 01 23:40 |
| schestowitz |
He said nothing (anywhere) about the roots int he Vole |
Dec 01 23:41 |
| twitter |
roots in the Vole? |
Dec 01 23:44 |
| twitter |
These are official M$ communications, right? |
Dec 01 23:44 |
| twitter |
Oh, you are confusing the two stories, ha ha. Don’t worry, they are not the same submission. |
Dec 01 23:46 |
| twitter |
Completely different stories. One is interesting because it reveals how clueless people who work at M$ are kept. The other is interesting because it lays bare some OEM manipulation that’s unethical and may be illegal. |
Dec 01 23:48 |
| schestowitz |
Long item about BECTA: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12… |
Dec 01 23:54 |
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