Windows Vista 7 + XP = Comedy
- Dr. Roy Schestowitz
- 2009-04-30 22:40:51 UTC
- Modified: 2009-04-30 22:40:51 UTC
Summary: Promises of XP VM (through a fake 'leak') proving too steep to be real
●
XP Mode in Windows 7 is a scam
IF YOU HAVEN'T been stuck in a cave lately, you will undoubtedly have heard that Windows Vista SP2.1, aka Windows 7, will have an 'XP mode'. Before you jump up and down for joy, you should know that it won't do what you think it will, it is a scam.
Microsoft is conducting a very carefully crafted PR campaign to make Windows 7 seem less broken than the Broken OS (Vista / Me II), but it isn't. It gives long lead previews to people it knows will kiss up and not criticize the OS in order to create 'good buzz'. Sadly, with regard to Microsoft's Windows 7, the PC industry press is abdicating its responsibility to report objectively about a vendor's product, and the public is, well, dumb as rocks. It will believe almost anything it's told and never question the source. Yes, I am talking about you.
[...]
Why is this important? Well, the main difference between AMD-V and VT is that AMD-V is able to virtualize memory access in a much more transparent way. When AMD-V based VMs look to memory, they take a few cycles hit, but VT VMs get hammered by having to do a bunch of translations on the memory addresses. The speed difference is quite extreme, and it is why AMD had a huge advantage in VMM deployments for several years. With Nehalem, Intel has caught up.
Neither however is able to virtualize peripherals, and the prospects of doing so are fairly dim. If either side puts that capability into the CPU and chipset, you will also have to wait for peripheral makers to get up to speed. On the high-end enterprise side, things like multi-port NICs will probably get there first, but consumer widgets won't see it for a long time.
[...]
Windows 7 will grab the GPU to run the desktop, and it can't share the device. If it were even possible, you could possibly assign the GPU to XPM, but that would mean you'd lose GPU acceleration for the desktop, CPU use would spike, and things would start to resemble molasses in the winter very quickly. This much brain twisting logic is unlikely to be implemented even if it could somehow technically work. Basically, the host OS, Windows 7, can and must own the GPU fully.
[...]
So, what you will get with XPM is not an XP machine but a bloated resource hog that emulates the worst of 2004. Slowly. It may be a good fit for green screen COBOL apps that won't run on the Broken OS, but that is about it, and you will pay for the 'privilege' in terms of resources used and speed of operation.
We won't get into the funniest parts (yet), but think about this, Microsoft is claiming that XPM will be able to interact with Windows 7 apps seamlessly. I don't doubt that it will be appear seamless to the user, but there will have to be some pretty horrendous low level OS contortions going on under the surface to make it work.
●
Windows 7's XP Mode may not work on many PCs
The news that people will not be able to run applications designed for XP on Windows 7 by tapping virtualization, as XP Mode supports, is discouraging for cash-strapped consumers and small businesses that hoped to upgrade without ditching existing hardware or upgrading their software.
●
Windows 7's virtual 'XP mode' could mean support nightmares
Microsoft Corp.'s decision to give some Windows 7 users a tool to run Windows XP applications in a virtual machine may have been necessary to convince people to upgrade, but it could create support nightmares, analysts said today.
●
Microsoft gives users Windows 7 free for 13 months
Windows 7 RC, slated for download by MSDN and TechNet subscribers today and by the general public on May 5, doesn't expire until June 1, 2010, 13 months from tomorrow, Microsoft confirmed today.
When asked why the company is giving users such a long free pass for the software, a spokeswoman declined to comment.
●
XP to still be available on netbooks after Windows 7's release
Microsoft Corp. plans to continue offering Windows XP to hardware vendors for use on netbook PCs for a year after the upcoming release of Windows 7.
Recent Techrights' Posts
- Intercontinental Brigading - Part XXX - Breaking This Year’s Election Process With Bug Doors in Restricted Boot
- Thankfully here in the UK we typically still vote with paper and pencil
- Intercontinental Brigading - Part XXIX - Undermining US Election While Engaging in Lawfare in England (BBC) Against Publishers That Cover Anti-Election Violence
- The elephant in the room is back doors in voting machines
-
- Intercontinental Brigading - Part XXXI - Microsoft and Promoters of "Secure Boot" Are to Blame
- the important thing is that the dictator and Microsoft can remotely control all computers
- Links 03/11/2026: Science Around "Near-Death Experiences" and "Do Animals Grieve?"
- Links for the day
- Gemini Links 03/11/2026: Guitar, 3D-Printable Electric Spinning Wheel, Against Haven Social, and More
- Links for the day
- Intel Corporation Down Over 51% in One Month, the US Bailout Didn't Work
- Is the slop industry [sic] next?
- Microsoft European Development Centre (EDC) Next to be Culled?
- No time for that anymore
- Mass Layoffs at SUSE, Over 10% of Staff Gone
- Ignore their excuses
- When You're a Software Developer and They Tell You That Your Occupation is Dead or Dying in Order to Sell Dysfunctional Offerings Based on Hype (and Plagiarism)
- Disbelief is a strength when companies borrow trillions of dollars to sell a dud and construct a pyramid scheme
- Links 03/11/2026: Slop-Tied Debt is Becoming a Crisis (Lenders Panic), "Ukrainian Journalists Urge Global Media Not to Look Away From Russian Aggression"
- Links for the day
- Malaysia Seems to be Exploring Digital Independence With GNU/Linux and More
- not too bad
- Microsoft Windows is Crashing in Republic of South Korea
- Like in Japan, they seem to be shutting the lid on decades of Microsoft-isms
- Think Less, Aim for Less (When It Comes to Hardware)
- An abundance of hardware being wasted on a pyramid scheme will become a cautionary tale one day
- Gemini Links 03/11/2026: Stargazing, Linux-Powered Prism "Ambient Computer", and Abandoning Streaming Disservices
- Links for the day
- GNU/Linux Made Big Strides in Portugal This Year
- Microsoft had many layoffs in Portugal in recent years
- GNU/Linux in Argentina Now Measured at 8% "Market Share"
- Argentina is known for exporting skilled footballers, not advanced technology, but it has a large population, which we can hope will dump Windows
- Microsoft is Borrowing Loads of Money While Telling 60,000 Workers to Take the "Offer" and Leave, Microsoft Wants Bailouts From the Dictator
- Vote in elections and also vote with your wallet
- Microsoft and Spoilt Food
- Some whistleblowers may be needed here
- Over at Tux Machines...
- GNU/Linux news for the past day
- IRC Proceedings: Monday, November 02, 2026
- IRC logs for Monday, November 02, 2026
- Links 02/11/2026: Bracing for US Election and New Zealand Has November 7 Election
- Links for the day
- Gemini Links 02/11/2026: Beginning With Gemini Protocol, Looking for CoCs, and Slop for Local Data
- Links for the day
- NDA-Compatible PIPs and RAs at IBM Red Hat
- We welcome Red Hat whistleblowers who can share with us the NDA/s passed their way
- The Tower of Babel
- More is not better
- When Large American "Tech" Companies Can No Longer Complete Payroll
- In spite of several very large waves of Dell layoffs, which the media reported on, it seems like they are still experienceng payroll problems, maybe that's why money is being borrowed
- GNU/Linux Rises in African's Largest Population
- 15% in Nigeria [...] A country with over 200 million people
- The Register MS Has Just Published a Fake Article With "AI" 28 Times in the Page (Communist Party of China Entity Paid for That)
- In IRC, someone has just pointed out that an article at The Register MS repeats Microsoft's lies about its financial situation
- Windows Down to All-Time Low, Says statCounter, While Microsoft Tells 60,000 Workers They're No Longer Necessary
- Microsoft must be feeling "salty" right now
- A British Uphill Battle to Eliminate Microsoft and Its American Back Doors
- There are places of work and homes where GNU/Linux is installed and regularly used, not as a mere hobby but as a hyper-productive, practical tool
- Writing for Good
- The Web has an abundance of junk
- Technical Coverage of US Elections
- When elections are done by computers and decided by computers it becomes a tech issue
- By Killing the "Linux News Section" in Softpedia (the Most Popular Section, Based on Its Editor) Softpedia Killed Itself
- Enjoy Ballmer
- Linkspam in "It's FOSS" Today (and It's Not Even FOSS)
- free-to-access ad for some dodgy companies and the URLs are 'tampered' for cashback
- Links 02/11/2026: Slop Destroying Mathematics and "Democracy is Not on the Ballot" (in US)
- Links for the day
- Celebrating Photography, Celebrating Life, Celebrating Magnificent Humanity, Not Plagiarism Disservices
- Any time we adopt or spread slop imagery we are participating in the problem
- Year-Long Celebration Starts on Saturday
- This coming Saturday we turn 20
- Intercontinental Brigading - Part XXVIII - Microsoft Doesn't Want People to Speak About Microsoft-Controlled Restricted ('Secure') Boot, a Silent Injustice and Back Door/Kill Switch
- Can we please stop treating this as normal or acceptable?
- On Desktops/Laptops, Clownflare Sees Windows at Under 60% and GNU/Linux at 15% This Past Weekend
- Impressive if accurate
- Microsoft Lunduke is Slop
- Microsoft Lunduke is just trying to stir up hatred
- Intercontinental Brigading - Part XXVII - Shooting the Messengers (People Who Oppose Microsoft Back Doors), Even Across the Atlantic
- Keep this in mind later this week when a dictator either discredits the voting or covertly tampers with the voting process
- Microsoft Wants 60,000 Employees Gone (One Way or Another)
- At IBM, 15% of staff got marked as candidates for removal; at Microsoft it's almost 30%
- Over at Tux Machines...
- GNU/Linux news for the past day
- IRC Proceedings: Sunday, November 01, 2026
- IRC logs for Sunday, November 01, 2026
- Jean-Claude Van Linus
- Claude talking?
- Gemini Links 01/11/2026: OpenBSD, Broken MicroHDMI, Nextcloud, and More
- Links for the day
- IBM Vapourware on a Budget (to Grab Bailouts From US Taxpayers)
- Anderon is the sort of thing that makes IBMers uncomfortable
- Links 01/11/2026: Digital Minimalism and "Palantir Cofounder Announces Cruel Plan to Breed Thousands of Lab Monkeys for Medical Experiments"
- Links for the day
- Microsoft Accenture in Trouble, Accenture’s Debt Skyrockets
- Seeing a wave of adoption of Free software in Europe, it's not exactly shocking that "consultants" from Microsoft Accenture are no longer in demand
- Microsoft Says Its "Goodwill" Value Has Been Declining for Years, But It Also Claimed That Doubled in One Year
- Wall Street deserves far more criticism or scepticism (at the very least)
- SkyChatz: From Nothing to #2 in IRC (in Less Than a Year)
- Second only to Libera.Chat
- Making Up Words or Inventing a Vocabulary
- Or why Large Language Models are useless
- Assange on What Lula Means to Free Press
- Here in the UK we've also found our 'Lulas'
- GNU/Linux is No Underdog (But There Are Attempts to Put It "To Sleep")
- There's a moral imperative
- Intercontinental Brigading - Part XXVI - The "Law and Order" Candidate Who Crushes Both Law and Order and Even Rejects Election Outcomes (Insurrection Follows)
- A world without real technical security is a world void of democracy, justice, and human rights
- Links 01/11/2026: Malaysian Media Perishing, France Belatedly Identifies Social Control Media as Weaponised Yellow Press
- Links for the day
- Gemini Links 01/11/2026: "Trick-or-Treating seems to be dead, at least in our neighborhood"; BaseFree Numerical System and Human Emacs
- Links for the day
- Over at Tux Machines...
- GNU/Linux news for the past day
- IRC Proceedings: Saturday, October 31, 2026
- IRC logs for Saturday, October 31, 2026
Comments
twitter
2009-05-01 05:00:23
pcolon
2009-05-01 11:37:02
If our leaders do not see this as 'dumping', to keep GNU/Linux/BSD, off the desktop, then they're in collusion with the monopolist. MS is doing everything it can, but compete fairly, to stop consumer migration to alternate OS's.
Roy Schestowitz
2009-05-01 11:38:50
David Gerard
2009-05-01 22:25:03
Roy Schestowitz
2009-05-01 22:40:49
David Gerard
2009-05-01 22:43:45
Roy Schestowitz
2009-05-01 22:47:11
"The Edsel brand was ultimately a huge disappointment for Ford. But before the brand folded in 1960, and before Ford found instant success with the new 1960 Falcon compact, Ford had been working on the 1960 Edsel Comet concept car. It was to have resutled in a slightly larger, plusher version of the Falcon."
Perfect match, eh?
"...slightly lighter, plusher version of the Vista..."
David Gerard
2009-05-01 22:49:02
Roy Schestowitz
2009-05-01 22:50:24
David Gerard
2009-05-01 22:52:15
7 is more responsive than Vista to use. It's really not that bad IMO from the user perspective (having tried the beta; don't know if I'll bother trying the RC, I just haven't got enough memory for a VM on this machine).
I think 7's real problem will be that there just isn't a compelling reason to bother.
Roy Schestowitz
2009-05-01 22:56:32
David Gerard
2009-05-01 23:01:32