schestowitz | *LOL* ""beamed torchlight on them with the intention of apprehending them they ran away and they were vigorously chased until one of them disappeared while the second turned to sheep". http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/0... (Nigerian car thief turns into sheep) | Jan 31 00:06 |
MinceR | lol wut | Jan 31 00:06 |
schestowitz | LMAO. http://www.theregister.co.uk/200... | Jan 31 00:07 |
schestowitz | Tis reminds me of the death threats to PJ | Jan 31 00:07 |
schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/30/micr... "Microsemi said that as a penalty for misrepresenting his academic credentials, Peterson will immediately pay $100,000 to the company." | Jan 31 00:10 |
schestowitz | The wolf in Road Runner never dies and rich people in the west never go to jail unless they practically murder someone (unless their name is OJ) | Jan 31 00:10 |
jose | will leave soon.. | Jan 31 00:17 |
schestowitz | Was gnome-do mono-based? | Jan 31 00:18 |
schestowitz | I can't recall.. | Jan 31 00:18 |
MinceR | gn | Jan 31 00:18 |
schestowitz | I think it waas | Jan 31 00:18 |
schestowitz | Browser security wars < http://weblog.infoworld.com/securityadviser/a... > "I've always been a big fan of Konqueror for KDE versions of Linux, and Netscape and Mozilla during their heydays." | Jan 31 00:21 |
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twitter | "investigations often investigate the past" Yeah, precrime is some kind of GWB fantasy. Let's you target the people you don't like. | Jan 31 01:50 |
twitter | Working on px06986 | Jan 31 01:50 |
schestowitz | Cool! | Jan 31 01:51 |
twitter | Yeah, I'm typing it into gedit.... | Jan 31 01:51 |
twitter | For some reason I like gedit for quick and dirty stuff. | Jan 31 01:52 |
schestowitz | Kate has tabbing. | Jan 31 01:53 |
twitter | Yes and I love it for coding and persistent work. I like gedit for quick stuff. It seems a little lighter and faster. | Jan 31 01:55 |
twitter | Funny thing is that I usually end up pasting stuff into kmail for spell check. | Jan 31 01:59 |
amarsh04 | I usually use Abiword for letter writing | Jan 31 01:59 |
twitter | I'd type it in kmail but gedit has bigger fonts. Silly of me. | Jan 31 01:59 |
schestowitz | twitter: I do the same with Firefox or KNode | Jan 31 02:00 |
schestowitz | Kate doesn't have in-line spellcheker. We talked about this in IRC before | Jan 31 02:00 |
schestowitz | And OOo is an overkill for the stuff I do anyway | Jan 31 02:00 |
twitter | The default font for gedit is some kind of TT monospace. I like that. I don't know why I like that but I do. | Jan 31 02:02 |
twitter | It must be a typewriter/amber terminal hangover. | Jan 31 02:03 |
schestowitz | Microsoft is monitoring BN. I can only imagine they don't exactly like what's being 'leaked' in BN these days....... | Jan 31 02:03 |
schestowitz | But they can't sue... it's just authentic mail from a state-scale class action | Jan 31 02:04 |
amarsh04 | the problem is that the "public" court documents aren't available freely | Jan 31 02:04 |
twitter | Maybe they should not have been such assholes in the first place. | Jan 31 02:04 |
schestowitz | amarsh04: they were in a sense | Jan 31 02:04 |
schestowitz | They put it on a site too | Jan 31 02:04 |
amarsh04 | even when you or groklaw.net has them, there was often lots of ocr work to be done | Jan 31 02:04 |
schestowitz | Then there's ethical law versus thenicality | Jan 31 02:04 |
schestowitz | *technicality | Jan 31 02:04 |
schestowitz | For example, you can't cross the road without zebra crossing and alll... but sometime jaywalking is reasonable... like in a quiet neighbourhood | Jan 31 02:05 |
schestowitz | amarsh04: there's no hurry. OCR + manual work would do the trick | Jan 31 02:05 |
amarsh04 | yes, I've wondered how I get the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) to take note of the .au-relevant stuff that you have posted | Jan 31 02:06 |
twitter | technicality? these nut jobs act like Bond super villains. "DOS is the Source of our Power!" "We must own the secure path, end to end. There can be only one." | Jan 31 02:06 |
schestowitz | I hope to have informed some people who can sue | Jan 31 02:06 |
schestowitz | The evidence is out there now and we get record traffic | Jan 31 02:07 |
twitter | Now that would be justice. | Jan 31 02:07 |
schestowitz | As got GL, I know PJ's issues with this. | Jan 31 02:07 |
schestowitz | She did post some full texts before, e.g. anti-Java | Jan 31 02:07 |
schestowitz | I have many more | Jan 31 02:07 |
schestowitz | She was concerned by 2 things: | Jan 31 02:07 |
schestowitz | 1. Poisoning of the well: what if Microsoft had 'planted' some fakes to ruin the lot? | Jan 31 02:08 |
schestowitz | 2. Names of people: there are many names in these E-mails, also from ppl outside Microsoft. We get them Googled when we post full texts and it's usuaully embarrassing when put in context, | Jan 31 02:09 |
schestowitz | Referrals we get from Google almost doubled in the past months alone (1000 for text, 400 for images, PER DAY). | Jan 31 02:09 |
twitter | It's their email. They could have made the whole thing up when they presented it in the first place. Hopefully, people checked their caches to prove authenticity. | Jan 31 02:09 |
amarsh04 | I just hate how official documents were taken off-line or destroyed (e.g. Caldera versus Microsoft) | Jan 31 02:09 |
schestowitz | twitter: yes, it's done | Jan 31 02:10 |
schestowitz | grouchy saved his wget script | Jan 31 02:10 |
schestowitz | We routinely use these as proof that it was fetched from the Conlin-controlled site | Jan 31 02:10 |
schestowitz | amarsh04: some are alive | Jan 31 02:10 |
twitter | ppl outside of M$ are accused by M$ all the time. these emails are no different. people will have to make up their own minds based on the weight of evidence because M$ can not be trusted. | Jan 31 02:10 |
schestowitz | amarsh04: want a pointer? | Jan 31 02:10 |
amarsh04 | yes, I know schestowitz | Jan 31 02:10 |
schestowitz | Groklaw wrote about this too | Jan 31 02:10 |
amarsh04 | thanks | Jan 31 02:10 |
twitter | Finally, these emails are damaging to individuals at M$. I thought the other day that a good lawsuit would be to use these emails to find personal responsibility for the destruction of companies and sue the individuals on behalf of the former employees. | Jan 31 02:11 |
schestowitz | Search BN for "caldera" as well... I have pointers to some of Gary K's exhibits... in his memory and all. | Jan 31 02:11 |
schestowitz | It's a gold mine too. | Jan 31 02:11 |
amarsh04 | ah ok thanks | Jan 31 02:11 |
schestowitz | twitter: precisely. | Jan 31 02:11 |
twitter | You know, like make Bill Gates pay Netscape employees for their wages lost. | Jan 31 02:11 |
schestowitz | Blaming a logo is hard | Jan 31 02:11 |
schestowitz | Companies are machines | Jan 31 02:11 |
schestowitz | Now you put blood and flesh on them | Jan 31 02:12 |
*amarsh04 used to run Novell DOS 7 - wasted money filing a bug report that it didn't support ems backfill like ms-dos and ibm pc-dos | Jan 31 02:12 |
schestowitz | To find, for example, that Bill Gates is personally responsible for anti-Linux, anti-Java etc. | Jan 31 02:12 |
schestowitz | It also makes VMware's new CEO look like a criminal | Jan 31 02:12 |
schestowitz | paulm | Jan 31 02:12 |
twitter | The schemes are clear and they had real economic and emotional consequences. | Jan 31 02:12 |
twitter | I hate reading these emails because the people are so evil, paranoid and mean. | Jan 31 02:13 |
schestowitz | I hope to get this done before MS is history :-) | Jan 31 02:13 |
schestowitz | It's already half the value it used to be | Jan 31 02:13 |
schestowitz | Take them down when they can still pay up whilst sued | Jan 31 02:13 |
amarsh04 | to quote Tigger... "this mystery is history" | Jan 31 02:13 |
schestowitz | Some litigation against Microsoft used Groklaw for research and cited it as source too | Jan 31 02:13 |
schestowitz | twitter: you can't be or feel like a criminal when you are in a company of criminals | Jan 31 02:14 |
schestowitz | It's like being a wolf in a gang of wold. | Jan 31 02:14 |
schestowitz | *wolves | Jan 31 02:14 |
twitter | people are responsible for their actions | Jan 31 02:15 |
schestowitz | Examples are taken from peers | Jan 31 02:15 |
schestowitz | Bossed too | Jan 31 02:15 |
amarsh04 | one of the things that kill closed source software was that the proprieters of the software could discontinue the product or get bought out and all the code go to the great bit-bucket in the sky | Jan 31 02:15 |
schestowitz | Had employees taken an example from billg, none of this is unusual | Jan 31 02:15 |
schestowitz | The guy built his career by stealing people's work and using his daddy to rip apart the political system to make way for 'little bill' | Jan 31 02:16 |
twitter | True, but they should still be made to pay. They did not feel bad ruining others, in fact they delighted in it. | Jan 31 02:16 |
amarsh04 | I think of all software knowlege that went into closed products and died with the products and their developers | Jan 31 02:16 |
twitter | Yes, non free software forces everyone to reinvent everything all the time. It is intentional waste and results in second rate code. | Jan 31 02:18 |
amarsh04 | whereas with free software, a contribution as small as "this doesn't work, but this does" can find its way back to everyone who uses that software | Jan 31 02:18 |
schestowitz | amarsh04: agreed | Jan 31 02:18 |
twitter | Wow, here's some shit. "I do not think that DRM is dirrect correlation to DTCP. We need to accelerate our efforts on Secure Video Path. We stalemate of beat DTCP over time via Secure Audio Path, Secure Video Path and DRM combined. The challenge with the Studios is that they prefer to exercise monolithic control mechanism an partner with the CE industry who will do monolithic efforts and tace contractual restrants (threat of la | Jan 31 02:24 |
twitter | Looks like M$ has the same problems today. | Jan 31 02:25 |
schestowitz | :-) | Jan 31 02:25 |
flyback | secure audio and video patch | Jan 31 02:25 |
flyback | what a joke | Jan 31 02:25 |
flyback | I have the solution | Jan 31 02:26 |
flyback | it's called a global plague or ww3 | Jan 31 02:26 |
twitter | It's not really funny, even if M$ can't execute. The intent is massively harmful to society. | Jan 31 02:26 |
twitter | Sooner or later, these conspirators will get it right and lock everyone else out. We can't count on always beating their schemes technically. They must be beaten legally. | Jan 31 02:27 |
twitter | Lovelock predicts Global Warming will kill 90% of the world's population by 2200. | Jan 31 02:28 |
schestowitz | URL? | Jan 31 02:29 |
schestowitz | 2200 is too far ahead for predictions | Jan 31 02:29 |
schestowitz | Nuclear threat is greater a risk that may lead to extinction | Jan 31 02:30 |
twitter | http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg2012692... | Jan 31 02:30 |
schestowitz | The main problem is greed (human nature), not religion | Jan 31 02:30 |
schestowitz | twitter: yes, I saw that the other day | Jan 31 02:30 |
schestowitz | RMS linked to it, IIRC | Jan 31 02:30 |
twitter | Yep, that's where I got it. | Jan 31 02:31 |
twitter | It made an impact. | Jan 31 02:31 |
twitter | People may or may not lob bombs at each other but the CO2 level is already there. | Jan 31 02:34 |
schestowitz | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JG9CM_... | Jan 31 02:35 |
flyback | good | Jan 31 02:41 |
flyback | go global warming | Jan 31 02:41 |
flyback | I hate snow and ice | Jan 31 02:41 |
flyback | and I Hate all of mankind too | Jan 31 02:41 |
flyback | and what an idiot url | Jan 31 02:42 |
twitter | do you hate yourself flyback? | Jan 31 02:43 |
schestowitz | Raging | Jan 31 02:43 |
twitter | sad | Jan 31 02:44 |
schestowitz | Can we at least leave the animals to live? | Jan 31 02:44 |
schestowitz | Maybe like in China we'll eat every insect that's left, even at sea | Jan 31 02:44 |
twitter | Lovelock thinks they will walk north. | Jan 31 02:44 |
flyback | espically myself | Jan 31 02:45 |
schestowitz | God f*ed up. :-) He made us too sophisticated... enough to ruin ourselves and all other species | Jan 31 02:45 |
schestowitz | Drift nets, nukes.. | Jan 31 02:45 |
schestowitz | But hey! | Jan 31 02:45 |
flyback | other species | Jan 31 02:45 |
flyback | mankind > animals | Jan 31 02:45 |
flyback | get over it | Jan 31 02:45 |
schestowitz | Bacteria will survive and may evolve again.... for a few billiob years ;-) | Jan 31 02:46 |
schestowitz | According to this, Obama is unlikely to budge out of other lands: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v... | Jan 31 02:48 |
schestowitz | Elections are such a scammy choice | Jan 31 02:48 |
schestowitz | It's a binary choice | Jan 31 02:49 |
schestowitz | You can't vote on pertinent policies. There need to be referendums | Jan 31 02:49 |
*flyback uses a floppy disk to chain load to a usb cdrom to bootup linux on a p150mmx with 64meg ram | Jan 31 02:53 |
amarsh04 | flyback, is the p150mmx a laptop? | Jan 31 02:57 |
*amarsh04 once ran linux on a cyrix cpu until upgrading to a pentium225mmx | Jan 31 02:57 |
amarsh04 | that machine had 48 meg of RAM when I started running linux... finished up with 192 MiB of RAM | Jan 31 02:58 |
flyback | why else would I bother with a 150mmx | Jan 31 02:58 |
amarsh04 | was one of the earliest motherboards with usb on it | Jan 31 02:58 |
*flyback notes it's a laptop with a useful 800x600 tft display fine for a serial terminal etc, he's not that sucidal to use a p150mmx desktop | Jan 31 02:58 |
flyback | nice my first homebuild was a cyrix | Jan 31 02:59 |
twitter | because you said you hate yourself? | Jan 31 02:59 |
twitter | I used those things. Ugh, the horror. | Jan 31 02:59 |
amarsh04 | does it have pcmcia slots? I bought a 2nd hand 3com pcmcia ethernet card for a laptop - had the advantage of not using a separate cable to attach to a rj45 ethernet plug | Jan 31 03:00 |
flyback | I used to enjoy things till a few yrs ago | Jan 31 03:00 |
twitter | The easier way to make an old laptop work though, is to do the base install on a reasonable computer, then edit config. | Jan 31 03:00 |
flyback | yes and it also has cardbus | Jan 31 03:00 |
flyback | unlike the other one I h ave at work like it 1 model down which can only use 16 bit pcmcia | Jan 31 03:00 |
schestowitz | This man speaks BS: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=... | Jan 31 03:00 |
flyback | also has 2 usb 1.1 ports | Jan 31 03:01 |
flyback | very useful | Jan 31 03:01 |
amarsh04 | but the pcmcia card with the ethernet plug inserted blocked the only usb socket (this was a compaq armada 1750) | Jan 31 03:01 |
flyback | I have 5 laptops at work friend bought in working on | Jan 31 03:01 |
flyback | well mabye 6 | Jan 31 03:01 |
amarsh04 | grand-daughter used that laptop for playing frozen bubble | Jan 31 03:01 |
flyback | one packard bell 486slc-25 - useless crashes most dos tools, leaving it 95 for fun | Jan 31 03:01 |
flyback | ibm thinkpad p3 - needs at least new cmos battery $3 or so | Jan 31 03:02 |
flyback | gateway p150mmx 64 meg ram | Jan 31 03:02 |
flyback | gateway 150mmx no ram (had 64 at home to test) no cdrom and no hd or the hd enclosure but has usb 1.1 so I can load from flash drives etc | Jan 31 03:02 |
flyback | botha re tft lcd's | Jan 31 03:02 |
flyback | dell inspiron 5000e p3 needs a new hd and it overheats but I think I can fix | Jan 31 03:03 |
*schestowitz needs to fetch the old Compaq laptop for some DSL (just 32 of RAM though) | Jan 31 03:03 |
flyback | I should replace the cmos batteries in the gateways because they are nicd which leak after few yrs | Jan 31 03:03 |
flyback | the packard bell is going to need emergency surgery | Jan 31 03:03 |
flyback | becaus the nicd is those really bad cylinder ones that leak out the ass | Jan 31 03:03 |
amarsh04 | the compaq needed a 2032 lithium battery which was very cheap at the local supermarket | Jan 31 03:05 |
amarsh04 | just over AUD$2 | Jan 31 03:06 |
flyback | yeah but most of these are nicd old school | Jan 31 03:06 |
flyback | newer ones use cr2032 afaik | Jan 31 03:06 |
flyback | you should use a good brand | Jan 31 03:06 |
flyback | don't get cheap one | Jan 31 03:06 |
flyback | they will leak or not last years | Jan 31 03:06 |
flyback | i'm still mad from burning up another usb to +5/+3.3 ttl serial converter last n ight | Jan 31 03:09 |
flyback | hit pins that were 5.8 better than the last one where I hit +12 | Jan 31 03:09 |
schestowitz | "Microsoft software doesn't get released - it escapes, leaving a trail of destruction behind it." | Jan 31 03:11 |
twitter | disaster capitalism | Jan 31 03:11 |
schestowitz | Shock therapy | Jan 31 03:11 |
schestowitz | How'd you feel, PUNK? ;-) | Jan 31 03:11 |
twitter | imposed on others not chosen. | Jan 31 03:11 |
flyback | disaster caplitalism | Jan 31 03:12 |
flyback | oh grow up | Jan 31 03:12 |
flyback | liberal clueless fucktards | Jan 31 03:12 |
flyback | with their words and isms | Jan 31 03:12 |
flyback | you people are more fucking dangerous to the enviorment than exxoon ever will be | Jan 31 03:12 |
schestowitz | Heh., | Jan 31 03:12 |
schestowitz | Maybe true. | Jan 31 03:12 |
flyback | seriously the founder of greenpeace left in disgust | Jan 31 03:13 |
schestowitz | Watching this type of stuff would probably have you monitored: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZnmfgUd... | Jan 31 03:13 |
schestowitz | flyback: link? | Jan 31 03:13 |
flyback | because all the marxists were more busy bashing big business instead of trying to find ways just to naturally make businesses more clean | Jan 31 03:13 |
flyback | also | Jan 31 03:13 |
flyback | he supports nuclear power | Jan 31 03:13 |
flyback | and they called him a traitor, devel etc | Jan 31 03:13 |
flyback | even though | Jan 31 03:13 |
flyback | 99% of them are fucking idiots | Jan 31 03:13 |
flyback | who have no idea wtf happen at chernoble | Jan 31 03:14 |
flyback | and I am tried of telling people the story | Jan 31 03:14 |
schestowitz | Most people watch fantasy BS: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wG65S9nU... | Jan 31 03:16 |
*flyback hasn't eatched or had his tv working in over a yr | Jan 31 03:16 |
flyback | but I am setting backup a pvr pc soon | Jan 31 03:16 |
flyback | don't care wtf the greenheads thing about it | Jan 31 03:16 |
flyback | they can shove their carbon footprint up their ass | Jan 31 03:16 |
schestowitz | What Hollywood and WA (DC) have in common is that both produce and deliver illusions. | Jan 31 03:16 |
flyback | i'm not going to be alive much longer anyways | Jan 31 03:17 |
flyback | yeah we agree on that | Jan 31 03:17 |
flyback | hollywood is a bunch of mental idiots | Jan 31 03:17 |
flyback | they make me look sane | Jan 31 03:17 |
flyback | look at them suck off the cock of scientology | Jan 31 03:17 |
schestowitz | Welll, it spreads ;-) | Jan 31 03:17 |
schestowitz | Idiots make idiots? ;-) | Jan 31 03:17 |
schestowitz | Sanity is not analogous to complacency or conformism. | Jan 31 03:18 |
twitter | "Issues Sony has several competitn media technologies and software apps bundled with their Digital PC line. Notably their own Media Player software with their own DRM technology. We also have an unconfirmed suspicion that the Vaio Desktop Division has a Linux-based home server project underway." | Jan 31 03:33 |
twitter | ha ha, paranoia | Jan 31 03:33 |
schestowitz | http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2009/01/... "It’s been a tough few weeks on the job loss front. This morning’s inbox brought the less than wonderful news that Caterpillar was laying off twenty thousand, Home Depot seven, and Sprint Nextel eight." | Jan 31 03:34 |
schestowitz | Linux-based, eh? Must be scary! | Jan 31 03:35 |
schestowitz | They fear Linux DVR -- that's another exhibit | Jan 31 03:35 |
schestowitz | Linux has over 50% they exclaim | Jan 31 03:35 |
twitter | Bypasses their crap completely. | Jan 31 03:35 |
twitter | does not bring freedom but it eliminates M$'s ability to dominate all and keep the conspiracy going. | Jan 31 03:36 |
twitter | The conspirators will have to agree to common mechanisms on their own but they seem too greedy to do it. Everyone has their own competing crap. | Jan 31 03:37 |
schestowitz | Sony is close to the conglomerates. it's also a media company so it needn't conspire much | Jan 31 03:37 |
schestowitz | It also had that nasty rootkit/DRM incident | Jan 31 03:37 |
twitter | Yes, but they will have to get together with other media companies if they want to make universal DRM. GNU/Linux is a more neutral meeting place than M$. | Jan 31 03:39 |
schestowitz | OK, it's 4am. I off now. Cya tomorrow | Jan 31 03:39 |
twitter | M$ continues to prove itself a partner that can't be trusted, as they did with Plays For Sure. | Jan 31 03:40 |
twitter | good night | Jan 31 03:40 |
schestowitz | NotSoSure | Jan 31 03:40 |
twitter | Surely dead on arrival. | Jan 31 03:40 |
twitter | I'll get the last two pages of px06986 tomorrow. | Jan 31 03:40 |
amarsh04 | night schestowitz | Jan 31 03:41 |
twitter | I've got a head cold and need lots of sleep. | Jan 31 03:41 |
twitter | later | Jan 31 03:41 |
amarsh04 | and twitter | Jan 31 03:41 |
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The | Anyone home? | Jan 31 04:02 |
amarsh04 | yes | Jan 31 04:20 |
The | Evening. | Jan 31 04:20 |
The | I take it nothing much is happening right now? | Jan 31 04:25 |
amarsh04 | schestowitz was up until 4am his time | Jan 31 04:28 |
amarsh04 | hope he doesn't burn himself out | Jan 31 04:29 |
The | he's been posting like crazy, I've been having a hard time keeping up | Jan 31 04:30 |
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schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/2009... "By 2006, the company had been reduced to suing for patent infringement, as it no longer was making any products. Basically, it was the classic story we've seen over and over again: a company fails in the market place, and then falls back on suing those who actually succeeded." | Jan 31 10:25 |
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amarsh04 | schestowitz: good linux pr: http://www.tassiedevil.com.au... | Jan 31 10:53 |
schestowitz | I thought it was kind negative PR (the beard shaving) | Jan 31 10:57 |
schestowitz | *kind of | Jan 31 10:57 |
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schestowitz | 'Duck Hunt' IPhone Game Pulled at Nintendo's Request < http://www.pcworld.com/article/158670/duck_hunt_iphone_g... > | Jan 31 11:43 |
trmanco | micros~ pushing .net crap into Firefox | Jan 31 11:50 |
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trmanco | "Great. A Microsoft update: That's fine. A plugin installed to support | Jan 31 11:51 |
trmanco | .net | Jan 31 11:51 |
trmanco | under Firefox - not so good. No uninstall possible without hacking the | Jan 31 11:51 |
trmanco | registry. Changes the user agent string. Allows for semi-automated | Jan 31 11:51 |
trmanco | installation of some web's random program onto the computer. | Jan 31 11:51 |
trmanco | I run no-script to keep out Javascript unless I say so. | Jan 31 11:51 |
trmanco | This is a security hole put in by default. With no uninstall, on a | Jan 31 11:51 |
trmanco | non-Microsoft web browser. In fact, a competitor's web browser, at that. | Jan 31 11:51 |
trmanco | Yeah, I figured out how to hack the registry to disable it. But, | Jan 31 11:51 |
trmanco | Microsoft, " | Jan 31 11:51 |
schestowitz | .NET? | Jan 31 11:55 |
schestowitz | Obama needs to be pressured to embrace OOo. He can't sell out to the Vole for self gain. Some just told me: | Jan 31 12:06 |
schestowitz | "If he goes down that road, they will own him more surely than they owned Bush. Bush they had to share. If they are allowed to get in now, they will have more or less a monopoly It's important to remember that the Obama administration owes no favors to Redmond. Redmond products on the voting machines..." | Jan 31 12:06 |
schestowitz | Obama has made some noise about open source, so let's live and see.. | Jan 31 12:06 |
MinceR | geekings | Jan 31 12:40 |
schestowitz | Ahoy | Jan 31 12:40 |