IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: March 27th, 2009 - Part 3

Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2009-03-28 09:17:29 UTC
Modified: 2009-03-28 09:17:29 UTC

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MinceR	even depending on state	Mar 27 19:37
trmanco	http://www.mixx.com/stories/439...	Mar 27 19:37
MinceR	ic	Mar 27 19:37
trmanco	lets see the power of MIXX	Mar 27 19:37
wispygalaxy	yep minceR	Mar 27 19:37
wispygalaxy	i have an account on mixx, i need to go back on there and get in the groove	Mar 27 19:38
trmanco	mixx has potential	Mar 27 19:38
trmanco	http://members.ozemail.com.au/~...	Mar 27 19:39
wispygalaxy	i remember an article on digg more than a year ago about mixx vs digg, half of the commenters liked digg and vise versa	Mar 27 19:40
trmanco	digg is getting slow	Mar 27 19:40
trmanco	now sure why	Mar 27 19:40
trmanco	not*	Mar 27 19:40
wispygalaxy	haha tony i saw the link	Mar 27 19:40
wispygalaxy	digg is infested with spammers and newbies	Mar 27 19:40
wispygalaxy	i get my important news from other sources, not digg	Mar 27 19:41
schestowitz	"He’s [Microsoft lackey] promising more details of that platform in a later post. In the meantime it would appear unfortunate that while the data will be hosted on an open source platform individuals with an open source desktop are not going to be able to view it." http://blogs.the451group.com/o...	Mar 27 19:41
wispygalaxy	digg is something i read for amusement nowadays, but the linux section is the only decent place	Mar 27 19:41
trmanco	http://members.ozemail.com.au/~lb...	Mar 27 19:41
wispygalaxy	thats a new one for me XD	Mar 27 19:42
trmanco	:-P	Mar 27 19:43
MinceR	trmanco: probably because the apple fanboys are swarming it in ever greater numbers :>	Mar 27 19:43
MinceR	also, lol	Mar 27 19:43
schestowitz	Na.....	Mar 27 19:43
trmanco	mac botnets?	Mar 27 19:43
MinceR	yes, but they're built on the human platform	Mar 27 19:43
trmanco	LOL	Mar 27 19:44
wispygalaxy	ha	Mar 27 19:44
wispygalaxy	roy are you on reddit?	Mar 27 19:44
wispygalaxy	ive been on there since jan 2008	Mar 27 19:44
wispygalaxy	you should visit	Mar 27 19:45
trmanco	I'm on reddit too	Mar 27 19:45
wispygalaxy	ill make sure to find you on there tony	Mar 27 19:45
trmanco	http://www.reddit.com/r/linux...	Mar 27 19:45
wispygalaxy	ill upmod that!	Mar 27 19:45
wispygalaxy	done	Mar 27 19:46
MinceR	sounds like a new version of "i'd hit it!" ;)	Mar 27 19:46
wispygalaxy	lmao	Mar 27 19:46
trmanco	thanks	Mar 27 19:47
wispygalaxy	you're welcome tony	Mar 27 19:47
schestowitz	wispygalaxy: no no reddit	Mar 27 19:47
trmanco	hitit	Mar 27 19:47
schestowitz	Same for Mixx	Mar 27 19:47
schestowitz	Someone from there loves us though	Mar 27 19:48
schestowitz	We also have people put us in reddit	Mar 27 19:48
wispygalaxy	who??	Mar 27 19:48
schestowitz	I don't know	Mar 27 19:48
schestowitz	One of them used to be in Digg	Mar 27 19:48
schestowitz	he got banned	Mar 27 19:48
schestowitz	cyberphoenix	Mar 27 19:48
wispygalaxy	was he a linux advocate?	Mar 27 19:48
schestowitz	In FSDaily there's someone called "komrad"	Mar 27 19:48
schestowitz	Yes, but very strong language and attitude	Mar 27 19:48
schestowitz	Advocate to the extreme	Mar 27 19:48
schestowitz	Right enough, he is more concerned about Microsoft's ethics	Mar 27 19:49
schestowitz	*Rightly	Mar 27 19:49
wispygalaxy	hey its better to be all zealous and ardent compared to boring	Mar 27 19:49
wispygalaxy	it makes an interesting relationship	Mar 27 19:49
MinceR	hm, should we start a new /. clone called HitIt? :>	Mar 27 19:50
wispygalaxy	sounds cool haha	Mar 27 19:50
trmanco	MinceR, I was about to say that	Mar 27 19:50
wispygalaxy	:D	Mar 27 19:51
trmanco	I would give it a shot	Mar 27 19:51
trmanco	php+mysql	Mar 27 19:52
schestowitz	same here	Mar 27 19:52
schestowitz	Drigg	Mar 27 19:52
trmanco	LOL	Mar 27 19:52
trmanco	Drigg it!	Mar 27 19:52
wispygalaxy	haha roy that's a good one	Mar 27 19:52
wispygalaxy	roy, have you tried debian lenny yet? its so fast	Mar 27 19:53
schestowitz	trmanco: drigg is software	Mar 27 19:53
schestowitz	You build sites with it... like FSDaily and others	Mar 27 19:54
trmanco	ah drupal	Mar 27 19:54
trmanco	didn't know	Mar 27 19:54
schestowitz	wispygalaxy: Mandriva is fast for me.	Mar 27 19:54
wispygalaxy	i hope to try that out too	Mar 27 19:54
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wispygalaxy	lenny boots up quickly and before i know it, i have a fully loaded desktop	Mar 27 19:55
trmanco	anybody know why the slashbot is down	Mar 27 19:57
Balrog	it was not down, just acting up	Mar 27 19:57
Balrog	seems up now...	Mar 27 19:58
trmanco	not here	Mar 27 19:58
trmanco	:\|	Mar 27 19:58
wispygalaxy	ubuntuforums was down a couple weeks ago	Mar 27 19:58
trmanco	I miss it	Mar 27 19:58
trmanco	yeah I've heard that	Mar 27 19:59
Balrog	heh	Mar 27 19:59
Balrog	http://news.slashdot.org/article...	Mar 27 19:59
wispygalaxy	poor ubuntuforums ;P	Mar 27 19:59
Balrog	ftc warns against deceptive drm	Mar 27 19:59
MinceR	does Drigg say "Drugg!" after you vote something up?	Mar 27 20:01
wispygalaxy	as you vote things up, it gets high	Mar 27 20:01
wispygalaxy	high(er)	Mar 27 20:01
trmanco	lol	Mar 27 20:01
trmanco	"High"	Mar 27 20:01
wispygalaxy	haha	Mar 27 20:02
MinceR	:)	Mar 27 20:02
wispygalaxy	did anyone hear about last.fm and the subscription service? i use last.fm but it doesnt affect me. its not fair to the countries who have to pay	Mar 27 20:03
trmanco	which countries have to pay?	Mar 27 20:03
wispygalaxy	everyone except: US, UK, and Germand	Mar 27 20:03
wispygalaxy	Germany*	Mar 27 20:03
trmanco	ah I see	Mar 27 20:04
schestowitz	Here's a stretch: "Intel was one of the first big companies to support Linux, which ultimately helped undermine Sun's high-end server business." http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/t... The same Intel that colludes with Microsoft and also sabotages OLPC?	Mar 27 20:04
trmanco	by last.fm	Mar 27 20:04
trmanco	bye*	Mar 27 20:04
wispygalaxy	and now itunes is charging $1.29 for 'hot' tracks, the music biz is not getting it!	Mar 27 20:04
wispygalaxy	im sorry tony, its not fair	Mar 27 20:04
*trmanco turns off scrobbler thingy in audacious		Mar 27 20:04
wispygalaxy	you can still scrobble, but no more radio	Mar 27 20:04
schestowitz	MinceR: drigg is not a site	Mar 27 20:05
MinceR	i know	Mar 27 20:05
wispygalaxy	scrobbling is okay for non subscribers after march 30 still	Mar 27 20:05
MinceR	but it does have some default strings, doesn't it?	Mar 27 20:05
wispygalaxy	intel is so two faced	Mar 27 20:06
schestowitz	Selfish	Mar 27 20:06
wispygalaxy	that's business for ya :(	Mar 27 20:06
wispygalaxy	totally unethical	Mar 27 20:06
schestowitz	wispygalaxy: if you need mustc, fetch this: http://sites.google.com/site/...	Mar 27 20:06
schestowitz	Give it a couple of nights and have over 1000 RIAA-FREE songs	Mar 27 20:06
schestowitz	FTC is a joke	Mar 27 20:07
schestowitz	SEC too	Mar 27 20:08
schestowitz	And DOJ is now corrupted by RIAA lawyers that Biden, their friend, helped put in there.	Mar 27 20:08
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schestowitz	That's what "Hope" was for... RIAA hoping to revive a dead business model by charging $150,000 for one track	Mar 27 20:10
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wispygalaxy	ahhhh i got booted out of the channel	Mar 27 20:10
wispygalaxy	my mistake	Mar 27 20:10
trmanco	hit the close button?	Mar 27 20:11
wispygalaxy	yeah haha	Mar 27 20:11
trmanco	lol	Mar 27 20:11
wispygalaxy	i can't believe itunes is increasing song prices	Mar 27 20:11
trmanco	apple is thirsty for money too	Mar 27 20:12
schestowitz	It's to east the recession	Mar 27 20:12
schestowitz	*ease	Mar 27 20:12
schestowitz	Not for you	Mar 27 20:12
schestowitz	For MAFIAA	Mar 27 20:12
wispygalaxy	if they are so concerned about p2p and file sharing, they would lower prices	Mar 27 20:12
schestowitz	They need leverage	Mar 27 20:12
wispygalaxy	apple is obsessed with stockholders :\|	Mar 27 20:12
schestowitz	yes, they need to raise money	Mar 27 20:12
schestowitz	For Jobs' surgeries	Mar 27 20:12
wispygalaxy	heh	Mar 27 20:13
wispygalaxy	like hes a poor man	Mar 27 20:13
schestowitz	(and private jet or whatever)	Mar 27 20:13
schestowitz	he's not	Mar 27 20:13
wispygalaxy	aig	Mar 27 20:13
schestowitz	From what I understand he's rude	Mar 27 20:13
schestowitz	Like BillG	Mar 27 20:13
schestowitz	Two sharks competing	Mar 27 20:13
wispygalaxy	im not a snob to others, and i dont believe in being rude to others for no reason	Mar 27 20:14
wispygalaxy	so roy do you still train/ go to the gym	Mar 27 20:17
wispygalaxy	there are a lot of kids jogging outside my dorm	Mar 27 20:17
wispygalaxy	sports are big at my college, the football games are huge	Mar 27 20:17
trmanco	hmm football	Mar 27 20:18
trmanco	aggressive sport!	Mar 27 20:18
zoobab01	:win 4	Mar 27 20:19
schestowitz	More new rumours about Red Hat takeover: http://www.forbes.com/2009/03/26/red-... (but they only recite Katherine Egbert who's always wrong)	Mar 27 20:19
schestowitz	wispygalaxy: yes, I do sometimes.	Mar 27 20:20
schestowitz	trmanco: American gootball	Mar 27 20:20
trmanco	yeah I know	Mar 27 20:20
wispygalaxy	that's awesome, roy	Mar 27 20:20
wispygalaxy	good to keep in shape!	Mar 27 20:20
schestowitz	zoobab01: Windows 4? :-)	Mar 27 20:20
wispygalaxy	tony, the crowd gets crazier than the actual game. it's all aobut the hype	Mar 27 20:20
schestowitz	WIndows 2000 is Windows 4	Mar 27 20:20
trmanco	ah, never been to a football game	Mar 27 20:21
wispygalaxy	i try to keep in shape, too	Mar 27 20:21
schestowitz	trmanco: you mean, stadium	Mar 27 20:21
schestowitz	Many games are played everywhere	Mar 27 20:21
schestowitz	Just not glorified	Mar 27 20:21
wispygalaxy	true	Mar 27 20:21
trmanco	I've been to stadiums, soccer	Mar 27 20:22
wispygalaxy	i never been to a professional soccer game	Mar 27 20:22
trmanco	but not to a game, I don't like this sport	Mar 27 20:22
trmanco	it's boring and corrupt	Mar 27 20:22
trmanco	at least here where I live in	Mar 27 20:23
wispygalaxy	it's more fun to play or watch?	Mar 27 20:23
wispygalaxy	i prefer playing	Mar 27 20:23
trmanco	watching is boring, and playing it is not my style	Mar 27 20:23
wispygalaxy	so it's not your taste	Mar 27 20:24
schestowitz	trmanco: it's tribal	Mar 27 20:24
trmanco	I prefer extreme sport, something motorized or sea sports like surf of body board	Mar 27 20:24
schestowitz	The thing is, local teams have many foreign palayer	Mar 27 20:24
trmanco	true	Mar 27 20:24
schestowitz	So even local pride doesn't come into play	Mar 27 20:24
schestowitz	National teams may be another story	Mar 27 20:24
wispygalaxy	the brazilian players are all over the world	Mar 27 20:24
schestowitz	Though 11 people are not representative of a popultion	Mar 27 20:24
trmanco	Manchester has one of the best of the world (player) if not the best	Mar 27 20:25
wispygalaxy	small sample size roy haha	Mar 27 20:25
schestowitz	Especially not if you assume that kicking a ball is indicative of a nation's might	Mar 27 20:25
schestowitz	It's an oversimplification that suits many unwashed masses :-)	Mar 27 20:25
wispygalaxy	i see manchester united games sometimes on TV	Mar 27 20:25
trmanco	Ronaldo	Mar 27 20:25
wispygalaxy	haha roy	Mar 27 20:25
wispygalaxy	pele is a legend	Mar 27 20:25
trmanco	I think he still plays for that team	Mar 27 20:25
wispygalaxy	i remember seeing him at the world cup a couple years ago	Mar 27 20:26
trmanco	I'm not really in to soccer so I'm not sure	Mar 27 20:26
wispygalaxy	i dont pay attention to sports in general, but i prefer playing them	Mar 27 20:26
wispygalaxy	im no spectator!	Mar 27 20:26
schestowitz	I played a lot as a child	Mar 27 20:26
schestowitz	Went to games	Mar 27 20:26
schestowitz	I have medals	Mar 27 20:26
wispygalaxy	awww thats great	Mar 27 20:26
trmanco	cool	Mar 27 20:26
wispygalaxy	my dad played soccer as a kid too	Mar 27 20:27
wispygalaxy	and in college	Mar 27 20:27
schestowitz	Still got my CS football team vest. I was goalie	Mar 27 20:27
wispygalaxy	i suck	Mar 27 20:27
wispygalaxy	as a goalie i mean	Mar 27 20:27
wispygalaxy	i tried it, i couldnt stand the onslaught of balls	Mar 27 20:28
wispygalaxy	i got bruised once too :(	Mar 27 20:28
schestowitz	apropos: http://rss.cnn.com/~r/rss/cnn_te... ( New eco-surfboard hopes to catch wave of popularity )	Mar 27 20:28
wispygalaxy	thats a cute idea	Mar 27 20:28
schestowitz	Think how much better for the environment when people do sports, unless they drive around to do it	Mar 27 20:28
schestowitz	No lights, A/C, electricity..	Mar 27 20:28
wispygalaxy	biking is a good way to be eco friendly	Mar 27 20:29
trmanco	I have roller blades	Mar 27 20:29
wispygalaxy	i used to be so afraid of 2-wheelers when i was younger. i forced myself to learn, and im glad i did haha	Mar 27 20:29
schestowitz	Humans never got wheels	Mar 27 20:29
schestowitz	No hunges	Mar 27 20:29
schestowitz	We are designed with flaws :-)	Mar 27 20:29
wispygalaxy	like an appendix	Mar 27 20:29
trmanco	haha	Mar 27 20:29
schestowitz	No animal has wheels	Mar 27 20:29
wispygalaxy	roller blades are awesome	Mar 27 20:30
schestowitz	When Albert Einstein's sister was born he asked his parents why she had no wheels. So the story goes...	Mar 27 20:30
trmanco	LOL	Mar 27 20:30
wispygalaxy	i used to go to the rink and skate	Mar 27 20:30
wispygalaxy	rofl	Mar 27 20:30
trmanco	I skate outside	Mar 27 20:30
trmanco	on asphalt	Mar 27 20:31
schestowitz	*hinges	Mar 27 20:31
wispygalaxy	do you wear a helmet?	Mar 27 20:31
wispygalaxy	i sometimes do	Mar 27 20:31
trmanco	wispygalaxy, use to	Mar 27 20:31
wispygalaxy	with rollar blading, i dont	Mar 27 20:31
trmanco	now I only use protection for my hads	Mar 27 20:31
wispygalaxy	protection is good	Mar 27 20:31
trmanco	hands*	Mar 27 20:31
wispygalaxy	i never had hand protection	Mar 27 20:31
trmanco	can't lose my precious hands :-P	Mar 27 20:32
schestowitz	Six Years Later, Iraqis Ready for the U.S. to Leave < Six Years Later, Iraqis Ready for the U.S. to Leave >	Mar 27 20:32
wispygalaxy	yes i hate it when i cant use my hands, like when i have a bandage on a finer	Mar 27 20:32
wispygalaxy	finger*	Mar 27 20:32
trmanco	if we had no hands, we couldn't code	Mar 27 20:32
wispygalaxy	they have been ready since day one!	Mar 27 20:33
trmanco	yeah, that sucks	Mar 27 20:33
wispygalaxy	you can code, with vista's voice recognition /s	Mar 27 20:33
trmanco	tried it, it sucks	Mar 27 20:33
wispygalaxy	remember the video about voice recognition on youtube	Mar 27 20:33
trmanco	yeah	Mar 27 20:33
wispygalaxy	haha	Mar 27 20:33
wispygalaxy	my dad once heard someone use it at work, he said it was like a crazy person talking to himself	Mar 27 20:34
trmanco	LOOOL	Mar 27 20:34
wispygalaxy	he's a engineer, not sure why he needed voice recognition to draw digrams	Mar 27 20:35
wispygalaxy	XD	Mar 27 20:35
wispygalaxy	my dad designs power generators	Mar 27 20:35
trmanco	maybe he was just curious	Mar 27 20:36
wispygalaxy	he has to climb through them too, to check his deisgn	Mar 27 20:36
wispygalaxy	he gets dustry from that haha	Mar 27 20:36
schestowitz	This is some bizarre -- if not sarcastic -- take from Jack Wallen: http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/...	Mar 27 20:36
trmanco	cool	Mar 27 20:36
wispygalaxy	i guess so tony lol	Mar 27 20:36
wispygalaxy	curiosity should be limited in a cubicle setting though	Mar 27 20:36
wispygalaxy	dont want to look crazy to coworkers	Mar 27 20:37
schestowitz	Too late	Mar 27 20:38
wispygalaxy	heh	Mar 27 20:38
wispygalaxy	*wispygalaxy is reading Roy's link	Mar 27 20:38
wispygalaxy	i shouldn't take all articles too seriously, they may be sarcastic and i don't catch it	Mar 27 20:40
schestowitz	I didn't read it carefully	Mar 27 20:40
schestowitz	But it seems off coming from him...	Mar 27 20:40
wispygalaxy	he's pro-linux i think	Mar 27 20:40
schestowitz	Is the Food Industry Following Big Tobacco's Playbook? < http://www.prwatch.org/node/8285 >. How many people we know has the tobacco industry already killed?	Mar 27 20:41
schestowitz	Isn't there a law for criminalising people in this industry? They lied deliberately, leading to death of many millions (my grandma included)	Mar 27 20:41
wispygalaxy	genetic engineering on crops is a big issue	Mar 27 20:41
wispygalaxy	what will happen to the people who consume it?	Mar 27 20:41
schestowitz	wispygalaxy: yes, Wallen is OK	Mar 27 20:41
wispygalaxy	will they mutate in 25 years?	Mar 27 20:42
wispygalaxy	cool roy	Mar 27 20:42
schestowitz	wispygalaxy: who knows... join the experiment.	Mar 27 20:42
wispygalaxy	im no lab rat!!	Mar 27 20:42
wispygalaxy	:P	Mar 27 20:42
schestowitz	I reckon he effects of cellphones on brain cancer are yet to be seen	Mar 27 20:42
schestowitz	I don't use my microwave anymore, either. Microwaves are banned in Sweden	Mar 27 20:42
wispygalaxy	my sister is doomed i guess haha	Mar 27 20:42
schestowitz	They are always ahead of everyone those Swedes	Mar 27 20:42
wispygalaxy	she has her cellphone within hand reach	Mar 27 20:42
wispygalaxy	microwaves? really?	Mar 27 20:43
schestowitz	Yes.	Mar 27 20:43
wispygalaxy	unfortunately, sweden has issues with wiretapping	Mar 27 20:43
schestowitz	I realised recently that also a friend's dad won't use it	Mar 27 20:43
wispygalaxy	so he uses a skillet?	Mar 27 20:43
schestowitz	The family has to lie to him if they cook using the microwave	Mar 27 20:43
Balrog	are microwaves dangerous if used for heating non-food items?	Mar 27 20:43
schestowitz	he's a medical doctor	Mar 27 20:43
wispygalaxy	haha roy	Mar 27 20:43
Balrog	yeah I know	Mar 27 20:44
schestowitz	Balrog: I heard about experiments	Mar 27 20:44
schestowitz	Boiling of water	Mar 27 20:44
Balrog	the radiation is not the prime culprit here ... it's more of the uneven heating	Mar 27 20:44
schestowitz	People won't listen	Mar 27 20:44
wispygalaxy	i showed you the furby microwave video a while age	Mar 27 20:44
wispygalaxy	ago*	Mar 27 20:44
schestowitz	Once in a while there are denialists' studies.	Mar 27 20:44
schestowitz	People cling to those	Mar 27 20:44
Balrog	(microwaves don't heat evenly ... this is WELL KNOWN)	Mar 27 20:44
schestowitz	They find shelter in what they /want/ to believe	Mar 27 20:44
schestowitz	Same with global warming.	Mar 27 20:44
wispygalaxy	selective belief	Mar 27 20:44
schestowitz	The problem is allow peer-reviewed publication of the big lies	Mar 27 20:44
schestowitz	You seed more	Mar 27 20:45
schestowitz	By gicving them something to cite	Mar 27 20:45
schestowitz	Let me find s/t	Mar 27 20:45
wispygalaxy	that happens all the time in advertising, people view ads after buying a product and selectively agree with the points to justify their purchase decision	Mar 27 20:45
schestowitz	Cancer Docs Warn Staff Of Cell Phone Risks < http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/0... >	Mar 27 20:46
schestowitz	There are many more	Mar 27 20:46
schestowitz	Likewise for Wi-FI	Mar 27 20:46
wispygalaxy	wi-fi?!	Mar 27 20:46
schestowitz	it's one thing to have antennas around (receiver end) but another to broadcast	Mar 27 20:46
schestowitz	wispygalaxy: yes, some schools banned wi-fi	Mar 27 20:46
wispygalaxy	i love wi-fi	Mar 27 20:47
wispygalaxy	my school has it here	Mar 27 20:47
schestowitz	http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archi...	Mar 27 20:47
schestowitz	http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/a...	Mar 27 20:47
Balrog	wifi is many times weaker though	Mar 27 20:47
wispygalaxy	my dad still had a tv that use the antenna, but we ditched it. he holds onto things, i tell ya	Mar 27 20:48
schestowitz	Microwaves are fun too	Mar 27 20:48
schestowitz	Convenience over health	Mar 27 20:48
Balrog	TV with antennas are relatively safe	Mar 27 20:48
schestowitz	Same with cellphones IMHO	Mar 27 20:48
Balrog	so are radios	Mar 27 20:48
schestowitz	Nuclar energy...	Mar 27 20:48
schestowitz	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl	Mar 27 20:48
wispygalaxy	my dad does not work at a nuclear plant	Mar 27 20:48
schestowitz	Balrog: yes, TV and antennas are fine	Mar 27 20:48
schestowitz	They receive	Mar 27 20:48
wispygalaxy	but he's involved with power stations	Mar 27 20:48
schestowitz	They don't broadcast	Mar 27 20:49
wispygalaxy	hence the name receiver	Mar 27 20:49
wispygalaxy	hehe	Mar 27 20:49
schestowitz	People now put antennas next to their eardrums	Mar 27 20:49
Balrog	yes, you're right	Mar 27 20:49
wispygalaxy	like bunny ears	Mar 27 20:49
wispygalaxy	kinda	Mar 27 20:49
Balrog	I hear that the power of bluetooth earphones is very low	Mar 27 20:49
Balrog	don't those function as receivers 98% of the time anyway?	Mar 27 20:50
wispygalaxy	yeah it stinks, my mom had it	Mar 27 20:50
wispygalaxy	bluetooth for cellphone	Mar 27 20:50
schestowitz	Excitation of people's important brain cells seems scary to me	Mar 27 20:50
schestowitz	Lungs is one thing... easier to repair those	Mar 27 20:50
wispygalaxy	in some unintelligent people, they need that excitation, there usually is not activity up there anyway haha	Mar 27 20:51
wispygalaxy	*is not much	Mar 27 20:51
schestowitz	" Shell has dumped renewable energy for biofuels. This despite the fact that biofuels use the scare resources for agriculture, leading to food shortages and destruction of rainforests in Brazil and Indonesia. " http://www.stallman.org/archives/2009-...	Mar 27 20:51
schestowitz	wispygalaxy: walkie-talkies were short-range	Mar 27 20:52
schestowitz	Also, there were used succinctly	Mar 27 20:52
wispygalaxy	i had one of those when i was a kid	Mar 27 20:52
schestowitz	Not relishes on	Mar 27 20:52
Balrog	schestowitz: GMRS radios are quite powerful	Mar 27 20:52
schestowitz	*shed	Mar 27 20:52
Balrog	up to 2 watts	Mar 27 20:52
schestowitz	These days everything is more powerful	Mar 27 20:52
Balrog	FRS radios (current generation walkie talkies) go to 500mW	Mar 27 20:52
schestowitz	Nucear plant make loads more energy fro a population 3 times the szie as 100 years ago	Mar 27 20:52
schestowitz	And batteries are so powerful fhat they can explode and kill people	Mar 27 20:53
schestowitz	They'll like little bombs	Mar 27 20:53
wispygalaxy	yikes!	Mar 27 20:53
Balrog	I'll be back in an hour or so	Mar 27 20:53
wispygalaxy	what if robots decided to attack us that way	Mar 27 20:53
wispygalaxy	bye balrog!	Mar 27 20:53
schestowitz	be back soon, Balrog	Mar 27 20:54
schestowitz	CIA has 3,000 documents related to torture tapes < http://onlinejournal.com/artman... >	Mar 27 20:54
schestowitz	How quickly people forget about torture of the innocent. It's intended to be so (kept low profile)	Mar 27 20:54
wispygalaxy	oh my..	Mar 27 20:54
schestowitz	"enhanced interrogation"	Mar 27 20:54
schestowitz	"Rendition"	Mar 27 20:54
wispygalaxy	that's sad :(	Mar 27 20:54
schestowitz	Just leading to FALSE confessions	Mar 27 20:55
wispygalaxy	yeah it's not effective	Mar 27 20:55
schestowitz	People would say anything to end it	Mar 27 20:55
schestowitz	It's one of those 'secrets' about torture	Mar 27 20:55
schestowitz	Why it's not effective	Mar 27 20:55
schestowitz	Like patents	Mar 27 20:55
schestowitz	"inventor... invention.. other BS..."	Mar 27 20:55
wispygalaxy	yes true	Mar 27 20:55
schestowitz	Rather than monopolisation and lawyers making cash from application and lawsuits	Mar 27 20:55
wispygalaxy	but it gives lawyers a job, those patents :P	Mar 27 20:56
schestowitz	Yes	Mar 27 20:56
schestowitz	Like money gives bankers jobs	Mar 27 20:56
schestowitz	Or Windows gives AV makers jobs	Mar 27 20:56
schestowitz	Or wars makes jobs	Mar 27 20:56
wispygalaxy	windows gives repair guys jobs	Mar 27 20:56
schestowitz	(COnstruction)	Mar 27 20:56
schestowitz	The broken windows theory..	Mar 27 20:56
wispygalaxy	heh, in a world without walls there are no windows or broken windows	Mar 27 20:57
schestowitz	Wow. RIGHTS-US: Detainee Offered Freedom for Silence on Torture < http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=46247 >	Mar 27 20:58
schestowitz	How they hide their tracks....	Mar 27 20:58
schestowitz	Like NDAs	Mar 27 20:58
schestowitz	H-P/Lenovo	Mar 27 20:58
schestowitz	"We'll refund Windows only if you keep quiet.."	Mar 27 20:58
wispygalaxy	geez lol	Mar 27 20:59
wispygalaxy	shady stuff	Mar 27 20:59
wispygalaxy	i want computers to come w/o a windows tax	Mar 27 20:59
wispygalaxy	software ahould really be independent from hardware, if possible	Mar 27 20:59
schestowitz	AdSense Video Units Get The Axe < http://www.webpronews.com/topnews... >. Is Google putting Flash posion in AdSense? I think it does	Mar 27 21:00
wispygalaxy	i thought they were for open source?	Mar 27 21:01
wispygalaxy	google i mean	Mar 27 21:01
wispygalaxy	why add flash	Mar 27 21:02
schestowitz	Today: "1. People Who Talk on Smartphones 24/7. One would think that I'd be over this by now. No, I'm not. It's 2009, people! You're not cool or special just because you can talk away on your pink BlackBerry Pearl." http://advice.cio.com/thomas_wailgum/10...	Mar 27 21:03
schestowitz	Google is into $$	Mar 27 21:04
schestowitz	It used open source	Mar 27 21:04
schestowitz	uses	Mar 27 21:04
wispygalaxy	linux	Mar 27 21:04
schestowitz	Yeah, that 'thing' too	Mar 27 21:04
wispygalaxy	hah	Mar 27 21:04
schestowitz	They have no kernel patchers AFAIK	Mar 27 21:04
schestowitz	But Summer of Code might find some Linux stuff	Mar 27 21:05
schestowitz	It does fund some high-level stuff	Mar 27 21:05
wispygalaxy	good to hear about the summer of code	Mar 27 21:05
wispygalaxy	it raises awareness	Mar 27 21:05
schestowitz	Nice analogy: Why IPv6 Is Like Broccoli < http://www.internetnews.com/in... >	Mar 27 21:06
wispygalaxy	do you have a netbook, roy?	Mar 27 21:06
schestowitz	Summer of Code is mostly PR/karma for Google	Mar 27 21:06
schestowitz	Google is still suppressing AGPL	Mar 27 21:06
wispygalaxy	my sister loves broccoli, even steamed	Mar 27 21:06
wispygalaxy	thats so gross	Mar 27 21:06
schestowitz	They should end this or it would hurt them more	Mar 27 21:06
wispygalaxy	i like mine with ranch dressing and crispy	Mar 27 21:06
wispygalaxy	yeah PR is all about charities	Mar 27 21:07
schestowitz	IOW,, with the bad stuff	Mar 27 21:07
wispygalaxy	yeah	Mar 27 21:07
schestowitz	Like wrapping sh*t with a sandwich or something... drek on a plate as the saying goes.	Mar 27 21:07
wispygalaxy	rofl	Mar 27 21:08
schestowitz	It's funny when kids are given candy apple	Mar 27 21:08
schestowitz	And pretend it's good	Mar 27 21:08
schestowitz	Many products are marketed as healthy	Mar 27 21:08
schestowitz	Yoghurts of sorts...	Mar 27 21:08
wispygalaxy	like fat free foods, only there's a lot of carbs	Mar 27 21:08
wispygalaxy	and vice versa	Mar 27 21:08
schestowitz	Diet coke too... with those horrid chemicals	Mar 27 21:08
wispygalaxy	my mom actually drank only diet coke when i was younger, she did not like the taste of water	Mar 27 21:09
wispygalaxy	it was like an addiction	Mar 27 21:09
schestowitz	'Burns' calories... burns other things too	Mar 27 21:09
wispygalaxy	i remember her always having a can open nearby	Mar 27 21:09
wispygalaxy	now she's a tea fanatic	Mar 27 21:09
wispygalaxy	oh mom... haha	Mar 27 21:09
schestowitz	It contains addictives still	Mar 27 21:09
schestowitz	Not as much as it used to	Mar 27 21:09
wispygalaxy	additives have to ruin food	Mar 27 21:10
wispygalaxy	good to hear that	Mar 27 21:10
wispygalaxy	i cut out soda, now im into water basically	Mar 27 21:10
balzac	schestowitz: nice lecture on patent law from RMS	Mar 27 21:10
schestowitz	Don Basile got the BOOT: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03...	Mar 27 21:11
schestowitz	Is there any harm in soda?	Mar 27 21:11
schestowitz	Water in the system (bar burping)?	Mar 27 21:11
wispygalaxy	haha	Mar 27 21:12
wispygalaxy	my sister used to say that she still got her daily dose of water from soda to convince my mom to let her drink it	Mar 27 21:12
wispygalaxy	it's still soda, sis	Mar 27 21:13
schestowitz	Another Vista 'capable' lawsuit has just been launched: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/27...	Mar 27 21:13
balzac	sweet	Mar 27 21:14
schestowitz	The OEMs will be more pissed off with the Vole	Mar 27 21:14
wispygalaxy	vista does not deserve my sympathy, it made me switch to ubuntu	Mar 27 21:15
*schestowitz has too much patent news to write about today		Mar 27 21:15
schestowitz	Ubuntu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista	Mar 27 21:15
wispygalaxy	you are a busy bee, roy	Mar 27 21:15
wispygalaxy	;)	Mar 27 21:15
wispygalaxy	awwww thanks	Mar 27 21:15
schestowitz	Vista's success	Mar 27 21:15
schestowitz	\	Mar 27 21:15
schestowitz	\	Mar 27 21:15
schestowitz	\	Mar 27 21:15
wispygalaxy	debian is my fave for now, though	Mar 27 21:15
schestowitz	.	Mar 27 21:15
schestowitz	You spoiled my ASCII joke. wha wha wha??	Mar 27 21:16
wispygalaxy	oh snap, sry	Mar 27 21:16
wispygalaxy	please dont hate me haha	Mar 27 21:16
wispygalaxy	jk	Mar 27 21:16
schestowitz	mplayer FTW: http://blog.mageprojects.com/200...	Mar 27 21:17
schestowitz	mplayer is the best media player out there, I think	Mar 27 21:17
wispygalaxy	my teacher uses VLC player in class	Mar 27 21:18
wispygalaxy	nice to see some open source representation	Mar 27 21:18
wispygalaxy	my statistics teacher uses firefox in class also	Mar 27 21:18
wispygalaxy	before, i would only see ms software in class, things are chaning	Mar 27 21:19
schestowitz	http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/archive/...	Mar 27 21:21
schestowitz	"Teacher faces jail time over pop up malware porn on school pc" <--- MSIE	Mar 27 21:21
wispygalaxy	haha the same thing kinda happened to my IT teacher last semester, he clicked on a link and there were ads for hooking up. it was college, though	Mar 27 21:23
wispygalaxy	it was on the projector	Mar 27 21:23
wispygalaxy	it was an accident, needless to say	Mar 27 21:25
schestowitz	"Hooking up?" As in dating?	Mar 27 21:25
schestowitz	That's benign	Mar 27 21:26
wispygalaxy	and 'more' haha	Mar 27 21:26
schestowitz	What Microsoft is awfully scared of: GNU/Linux domination on the Web.. http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/... http://www.circleid.com/posts/20...	Mar 27 21:27
schestowitz	it's bad when people need to reboot when presenting	Mar 27 21:28
schestowitz	They should use Live USBs	Mar 27 21:28
schestowitz	How Linux penetrates everyone's lives: http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org/bl...	Mar 27 21:29
wispygalaxy	interesting!	Mar 27 21:29
wispygalaxy	it definitely penetrates my life	Mar 27 21:29
wispygalaxy	on my desktop, online, etc	Mar 27 21:29
schestowitz	Brian became very low profile since joining LDN	Mar 27 21:30
wispygalaxy	with regards to presenting and rebooting, i had a project for music class and had to play a cd in front of the class, and the cd kept skipping. i couldn't get it to work again, but i still got an A on the project. i guess the teacher heard just enough to grade me lol	Mar 27 21:30
wispygalaxy	yes lol	Mar 27 21:30
schestowitz	You know him?	Mar 27 21:31
schestowitz	He managed LinuxToday for many years]	Mar 27 21:31
wispygalaxy	nah	Mar 27 21:31
wispygalaxy	but i heard of him	Mar 27 21:31
wispygalaxy	thanks for the tidbit of info	Mar 27 21:31
wispygalaxy	that 'portraits of linux' piece was cute	Mar 27 21:33
wispygalaxy	i wish there were more photo booths around	Mar 27 21:33
wispygalaxy	there were many interesting things that went down in them haha	Mar 27 21:34
schestowitz	ESR is being an obnoxious free rider: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=882	Mar 27 21:35
wispygalaxy	free riders are bad :(	Mar 27 21:36
wispygalaxy	helping out with foss should be a concern for users	Mar 27 21:36
wispygalaxy	take some, give some	Mar 27 21:36
wispygalaxy	it	Mar 27 21:37
schestowitz	Brian Aker: What Would an IBM Buyout of Sun Mean for MySQL? < http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2009/03/... >. do not want	Mar 27 21:39
wispygalaxy	please don't die, MySQL	Mar 27 21:39
schestowitz	ESR needs some FLOSSing	Mar 27 21:39
schestowitz	Can drop the "LOS" too	Mar 27 21:40
schestowitz	He need FSing	Mar 27 21:40
schestowitz	*needs	Mar 27 21:40
wispygalaxy	haha	Mar 27 21:40
wispygalaxy	flossing is good for you, of course	Mar 27 21:40
schestowitz	There's this new site that gives showcases of programs running under Ubuntu... e.g. http://codepad.classhelper.org/lea...	Mar 27 21:40
schestowitz	I don't floss	Mar 27 21:41
schestowitz	I have no tooth filling, either (fingers crossed)	Mar 27 21:41
wispygalaxy	no cavities, too?	Mar 27 21:41
wispygalaxy	i have pretty good teeth	Mar 27 21:41
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wispygalaxy	my mom has very sensitive teeth, but she cant take cold stuff	Mar 27 21:42
wispygalaxy	hot stuff, shes fine with (tea)	Mar 27 21:42
_Hicham_	Hi Roy!	Mar 27 21:42
_Hicham_	how r u doing man?	Mar 27 21:42
wispygalaxy	hey hicham what's up	Mar 27 21:42
_Hicham_	hey wispy	Mar 27 21:43
PeterFA	I got it, when MSFT tanks, they'll sell Windows rights to Novell.	Mar 27 21:43
wispygalaxy	nice to see you again hicham	Mar 27 21:43
_Hicham_	or they will sink together	Mar 27 21:43
wispygalaxy	i still dont have a leet gaming rig on my laptop haha	Mar 27 21:43
_Hicham_	thank u wispy	Mar 27 21:43
wispygalaxy	you're welcome :)	Mar 27 21:43
_Hicham_	any new games wispy?	Mar 27 21:44
wispygalaxy	nope, i had no time to game. :(	Mar 27 21:44
wispygalaxy	i am reading a lot these days, thanks to textbooks	Mar 27 21:44
_Hicham_	just to study?	Mar 27 21:44
wispygalaxy	yep	Mar 27 21:44
_Hicham_	what r u reading?	Mar 27 21:44
_Hicham_	CS books?	Mar 27 21:44
wispygalaxy	im a finance major actually	Mar 27 21:44
wispygalaxy	so i have finance, management, and marketing books	Mar 27 21:45
wispygalaxy	i do have a computer book around too	Mar 27 21:45
_Hicham_	what do u think about the actual econimic context?	Mar 27 21:46
_Hicham_	will the american economy get better?	Mar 27 21:46
wispygalaxy	i think there is a shift occurring, but things will be better i think	Mar 27 21:46
wispygalaxy	by a shift, i mean the market is changing	Mar 27 21:46
wispygalaxy	we need to focus on education and jobs	Mar 27 21:47
wispygalaxy	by we, i mean usa	Mar 27 21:47
_Hicham_	what kind of shift?	Mar 27 21:47
schestowitz	wispygalaxy: no, no cavities	Mar 27 21:47
wispygalaxy	good boy	Mar 27 21:47
wispygalaxy	haha jk ;)	Mar 27 21:47
schestowitz	PeterFA: you wish! :-p	Mar 27 21:48
_Hicham_	what do u think Roy?	Mar 27 21:48
PeterFA	schestowitz, 50% of that is a dream.	Mar 27 21:48
wispygalaxy	countries need to focus on their competitive edge, and i think there need to be more focus on education and job training	Mar 27 21:48
schestowitz	I think wispygalaxy read Murdoch's press too much	Mar 27 21:49
schestowitz	The US seems to be a bankrupt nation	Mar 27 21:49
wispygalaxy	hey!	Mar 27 21:49
schestowitz	Just buying time now	Mar 27 21:49
wispygalaxy	i know china has a lot of US debt	Mar 27 21:49
wispygalaxy	and japan	Mar 27 21:49
_Hicham_	Roy : do u really think that?	Mar 27 21:49
schestowitz	PeterFA: 50% stock value for MSFT?	Mar 27 21:49
wispygalaxy	but im being optimistic, of course, about the job situation	Mar 27 21:49
schestowitz	One person said it would decline to $4	Mar 27 21:49
schestowitz	Seems reachable indeed. Give it more years...	Mar 27 21:50
schestowitz	Like SUN	Mar 27 21:50
_Hicham_	Roy : not that much I think	Mar 27 21:50
schestowitz	SUNW -> JAVA -> IBM	Mar 27 21:50
_Hicham_	Roy : is Sun already $4?	Mar 27 21:50
wispygalaxy	sun was really low	Mar 27 21:50
schestowitz	MSFT -> SFT -> FT -> F[uc*ed]	Mar 27 21:50
wispygalaxy	oh snap!	Mar 27 21:50
schestowitz	wispygalaxy: yes, they do (China and Japan)	Mar 27 21:51
wispygalaxy	im still laughing over GM's stock	Mar 27 21:51
schestowitz	Bad for them..	Mar 27 21:51
schestowitz	bad debt	Mar 27 21:51
schestowitz	But they lend, not borrow, AFAK	Mar 27 21:51
wispygalaxy	will the US default?	Mar 27 21:51
schestowitz	*AFAIK	Mar 27 21:51
schestowitz	And soon enough Russia and China can drop the USD	Mar 27 21:52
schestowitz	That could start a war (of words)	Mar 27 21:52
PeterFA	schestowitz, no, M$ kicking it.	Mar 27 21:52
wispygalaxy	will there be a shift to the euro	Mar 27 21:52
schestowitz	It makes US a yesterday's nations	Mar 27 21:52
schestowitz	Marganised to give way to new leadership	Mar 27 21:52
wispygalaxy	i hope the us will be okay	Mar 27 21:52
schestowitz	wispygalaxy: if GM, Citi and others die, then the value of the dollar is zilch	Mar 27 21:52
wispygalaxy	didnt the dollar rise recently?	Mar 27 21:53
schestowitz	Also, by doing the looting ("stimulus") they kill the value of the dollar	Mar 27 21:53
schestowitz	They just print money	Mar 27 21:53
wispygalaxy	yes, govt spending does that a lot	Mar 27 21:53
wispygalaxy	thanks to the Fed :\|	Mar 27 21:53
schestowitz	PeterFA: MS kicking EVRYONE	Mar 27 21:53
wispygalaxy	Keynes thought government spending solved all problems	Mar 27 21:53
schestowitz	TomTom included	Mar 27 21:53
wispygalaxy	owie	Mar 27 21:53
schestowitz	Like a shouting baby in a rpam	Mar 27 21:54
wispygalaxy	you mean pram?	Mar 27 21:54
schestowitz	Ballmer through his toys out (chair) at Google years ago	Mar 27 21:54
schestowitz	wispygalaxy: yes	Mar 27 21:54
schestowitz	RPM :-)	Mar 27 21:54
wispygalaxy	aww don't cry baby :D	Mar 27 21:54
wispygalaxy	haha it looked like rpm	Mar 27 21:54
schestowitz	ballmer-1.3.rpm	Mar 27 21:55
schestowitz	Use alien to marry ballmer with Deb	Mar 27 21:55
schestowitz	Ballmer it more like a SUE though	Mar 27 21:55
wispygalaxy	deballmer	Mar 27 21:55
schestowitz	because he's suing companies	Mar 27 21:55
wispygalaxy	haha	Mar 27 21:55
schestowitz	rm ballm*	Mar 27 21:55
wispygalaxy	sudo rm ballm*	Mar 27 21:56
wispygalaxy	;)	Mar 27 21:56
schestowitz	rm: remove write-protected regular file `ballmer-1.3.rpm?	Mar 27 21:56
wispygalaxy	you unleash the devil that way	Mar 27 21:56
schestowitz	emerge devils	Mar 27 21:57
wispygalaxy	if you open it	Mar 27 21:57
PeterFA	schestowitz, no, M$ kicking the bucket.	Mar 27 21:57
wispygalaxy	hehe	Mar 27 21:57
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schestowitz	ps aux \| grep wispygalaxy	Mar 27 21:57
wispygalaxy	hi there!	Mar 27 21:58
wispygalaxy	i hit refresh darn it	Mar 27 21:58
schestowitz	killall wispygalaxy	Mar 27 21:58
schestowitz	kickban wispygalaxy ;-)	Mar 27 21:58
wispygalaxy	hey that's mean	Mar 27 21:58
schestowitz	Oops, I forgot the slash	Mar 27 21:58
wispygalaxy	good haha	Mar 27 21:58
schestowitz	Mandriva will be present at the Linux 2009 Solutions Exhibition < http://www.mandriva.com/enterprise/en/... >	Mar 27 21:59
wispygalaxy	ooo a mandriva party	Mar 27 22:00
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schestowitz	Here's one thing I don't get...	Mar 27 22:03
schestowitz	Why is it that taps by convention are hot and cold separately in baths but not in kitchen sinks?	Mar 27 22:03
schestowitz	When sense does that make?	Mar 27 22:03
wispygalaxy	yeah that's weird	Mar 27 22:04
schestowitz	Either you're too cold or burning your hands	Mar 27 22:04
MinceR	we don't have separate hot and cold taps anywhere :>	Mar 27 22:04
schestowitz	Another thing is the separate handles for hot and sold. Why?	Mar 27 22:04
schestowitz	MinceR: in the UK it's convention	Mar 27 22:04
wispygalaxy	in my dorm bathroom, the sink forces you to hold down the buttons to get water. it's annoying when you have to wash your face	Mar 27 22:04
schestowitz	In baths	Mar 27 22:04
MinceR	those silly brits	Mar 27 22:05
schestowitz	PetoKraus would know..	Mar 27 22:05
PetoKraus	sorry?	Mar 27 22:05
schestowitz	Cause he li...	Mar 27 22:05
schestowitz	Well..	Mar 27 22:05
wispygalaxy	hi petokraus :)	Mar 27 22:05
*PetoKraus is after 4 Bell's and a game of squash		Mar 27 22:05
schestowitz	PetoKraus: in Slovakia, do you have separate for hot and cold?	Mar 27 22:05
PetoKraus	taps?	Mar 27 22:06
schestowitz	Yes	Mar 27 22:06
wispygalaxy	at the sink	Mar 27 22:06
PetoKraus	can i be rude?	Mar 27 22:06
wispygalaxy	how was the game petokraus	Mar 27 22:06
wispygalaxy	go ahead haha	Mar 27 22:06
PetoKraus	fuck no!	Mar 27 22:06
wispygalaxy	i do here :(	Mar 27 22:06
MinceR	thankfully, 1-armed taps are fairly common here :)	Mar 27 22:06
wispygalaxy	thats a relief	Mar 27 22:07
PetoKraus	well one-armed tap is something different	Mar 27 22:07
PetoKraus	it's better than two taps on one pipe, as you can set the temperature by rotational movement and then just set the stream strength by vertical one	Mar 27 22:08
PetoKraus	but two taps two pipes are retarded	Mar 27 22:08
PetoKraus	it's cure for hangover	Mar 27 22:08
MinceR	i think those were designed for mixing water in the sink	Mar 27 22:09
MinceR	or tub	Mar 27 22:09
MinceR	still, it's a limiting design	Mar 27 22:09
PetoKraus	how?	Mar 27 22:09
wispygalaxy	we should be given more choice with tubs and sinks haha, see how unhappy limiting design makes us?	Mar 27 22:10
PetoKraus	well	Mar 27 22:11
PetoKraus	i would say the choice is there	Mar 27 22:11
PetoKraus	it's the money which are the limiting factor	Mar 27 22:11
PetoKraus	i mean, if i would have €£1000 to spare	Mar 27 22:11
PetoKraus	it would disappear like whoosh	Mar 27 22:11
PetoKraus	:)	Mar 27 22:11
wispygalaxy	lol :)	Mar 27 22:11
wispygalaxy	the cool thing that when it comes to choice and customizing linux, you don't need all that money	Mar 27 22:12
PetoKraus	the problem is, that linux isn't everything, unfortunately	Mar 27 22:12
wispygalaxy	that's a huge advantage, and you dont need to pay extra for upgrades and new toys	Mar 27 22:13
wispygalaxy	coders are human too, yes. there can never be perfect software i guess	Mar 27 22:13
schestowitz	MinceR: the sinks are also useful for washing hands, brushing teeth, shaving, etc.	Mar 27 22:13
schestowitz	So it makes no sense to have two separate taps for hot and cold	Mar 27 22:14
schestowitz	Firefox is not Free Software < http://izanbardprince.wordpress.com/2009... >	Mar 27 22:14
schestowitz	Neither is Opera, so....	Mar 27 22:14
MinceR	i know, but i think that was the original intent	Mar 27 22:15
wispygalaxy	yeah when you install extensions or themes in firefox, you have to accept some agreements before installing	Mar 27 22:15
wispygalaxy	from the guy/gal who made it	Mar 27 22:15
wispygalaxy	firefox is faster than Opera to me	Mar 27 22:15
PetoKraus	i'd love to use something different than firefoz	Mar 27 22:15
wispygalaxy	opera uses too much RAM	Mar 27 22:15
PetoKraus	*x	Mar 27 22:15
PetoKraus	i think i'll wait for ffx 3.5	Mar 27 22:16
wispygalaxy	i have konqueror	Mar 27 22:16
PetoKraus	if it doesn't impress me, i'll go for Epiphany + Webkit, i guess	Mar 27 22:16
PetoKraus	i just hate how slow it can be at times. I mean, i want to type in the address bar	Mar 27 22:16
PetoKraus	and the system locks up for 3-4 seconds	Mar 27 22:16
PetoKraus	come in!	Mar 27 22:16
PetoKraus	*On	Mar 27 22:16
PetoKraus	wispygalaxy: the game was good, thank you	Mar 27 22:17
wispygalaxy	do you clear your history, cookies, etc, petokraus?	Mar 27 22:17
schestowitz	One angry man hates Firefox? Epiphany is my new web browser, goodbye Firefox! < http://izanbardprince.wordpress.com/2009... >	Mar 27 22:17
PetoKraus	especially because i'm supposed to be the less skilled player and i won 3:2	Mar 27 22:17
PetoKraus	wispygalaxy: no	Mar 27 22:17
wispygalaxy	cool petokraus, good luck with the game in the future	Mar 27 22:18
wispygalaxy	i forget to clear mine too	Mar 27 22:18
PetoKraus	yeah	Mar 27 22:18
PetoKraus	the term is over so	Mar 27 22:18
PetoKraus	i'll do more interesting stuff now	Mar 27 22:18
wispygalaxy	i just did today, and my iceweasel is so much faster	Mar 27 22:18
PetoKraus	at least until 2nd of april :) That's when i'll start looking for a job :/	Mar 27 22:18
wispygalaxy	your term is over?! lucky..	Mar 27 22:18
PetoKraus	yeah, scotland :)	Mar 27 22:18
PetoKraus	we're fast	Mar 27 22:18
PetoKraus	though we take one more year	Mar 27 22:18
wispygalaxy	not fair haha	Mar 27 22:18
wispygalaxy	oh i see	Mar 27 22:19
PetoKraus	i've got a nice exam queue though	Mar 27 22:19
*schestowitz needs to think of BN post for April 1st		Mar 27 22:19
wispygalaxy	5 years in college	Mar 27 22:19
wispygalaxy	roy, try to trick the trolls with a post	Mar 27 22:19
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wispygalaxy	exams are a bummer at the end of school, you're all excited then reality hits you and you have to study	Mar 27 22:19
PetoKraus	26th of april - gig in edinburgh (PJ Harvey; i'm in glasgow) 27th of april - Chemistry exam in the morning, 28th of april - Chemistry exam in the afternoon; 30th of april - Environmental Chemistry exam; 1st of May - the Australian Pink Floyd Show	Mar 27 22:20
PetoKraus	week packed-full	Mar 27 22:20
wispygalaxy	that sounds cool	Mar 27 22:20
wispygalaxy	i might go to washington DC next weekend	Mar 27 22:20
PetoKraus	:)	Mar 27 22:20
wispygalaxy	to see the cherry blossoms	Mar 27 22:20
wispygalaxy	i went in april 2005 to see them, it was awesome	Mar 27 22:21
wispygalaxy	its funded by the japanese club, in japan they have a liking for cherry blossoms, if you didnt know that	Mar 27 22:21
schestowitz	Microsoft guy on Microsoft in OSBC... http://stephesblog.blogs.com/my_weblog...	Mar 27 22:27
trmanco	19 hours to go	Mar 27 22:28
PetoKraus	?	Mar 27 22:28
schestowitz	Spain	Mar 27 22:28
trmanco	:)	Mar 27 22:28
wispygalaxy	oh your trip tony :D	Mar 27 22:28
wispygalaxy	spring break woot	Mar 27 22:28
schestowitz	Triiipin'	Mar 27 22:28
trmanco	can't wait	Mar 27 22:28
PetoKraus	yeah well	Mar 27 22:28
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PetoKraus	that's what they did in glasgow	Mar 27 22:29
wispygalaxy	my year ends in early may	Mar 27 22:29
schestowitz	http://www.youtube.com/wa...	Mar 27 22:29
wispygalaxy	i had a rainy spring break	Mar 27 22:29
PetoKraus	they decided that we'll finish the course before easter break	Mar 27 22:29
trmanco	I'm gonna miss my hacking hour	Mar 27 22:29
PetoKraus	having exams after easter break	Mar 27 22:29
wispygalaxy	no tanning for me :(	Mar 27 22:29
wispygalaxy	thats too bad petokraus	Mar 27 22:29
wispygalaxy	my friend at princeton had to take her exams after winter break	Mar 27 22:29
PetoKraus	is it	Mar 27 22:29
PetoKraus	yeah, that's how it was before	Mar 27 22:30
PetoKraus	THAT sucks	Mar 27 22:30
wispygalaxy	but her classes ended right before break	Mar 27 22:30
PetoKraus	easter break is how much, 2 weeks	Mar 27 22:30
PetoKraus	then there's revision period	Mar 27 22:30
wispygalaxy	so she was worrying about it when she was supposed to be chillin	Mar 27 22:30
PetoKraus	but you know	Mar 27 22:30
PetoKraus	i finish before end of april	Mar 27 22:30
PetoKraus	i've got 5 months break then	Mar 27 22:30
wispygalaxy	revision perios = reading days (at my school)	Mar 27 22:30
PetoKraus	till 22nd of september	Mar 27 22:31
wispygalaxy	5?!	Mar 27 22:31
wispygalaxy	i go from 2nd week of may to last week of august	Mar 27 22:31
PetoKraus	:)	Mar 27 22:31
Balrog_	hi everyone	Mar 27 22:31
wispygalaxy	grrrr haha	Mar 27 22:31
wispygalaxy	hey again balrog_	Mar 27 22:31
PetoKraus	hi balrog	Mar 27 22:31
Balrog_	how has it been since I was here?	Mar 27 22:32
trmanco	hello	Mar 27 22:32
wispygalaxy	we were talking about vacation and school... petokraus has 5 months off	Mar 27 22:32
wispygalaxy	hey tony	Mar 27 22:32
Balrog_	5 months?!?!?	Mar 27 22:33
wispygalaxy	yes haha, and i get about 3.5 months	Mar 27 22:33
wispygalaxy	:P	Mar 27 22:33
trmanco	I get about 3	Mar 27 22:33
trmanco	maybe less	Mar 27 22:34
wispygalaxy	right after senior year in high school, i had 2 months vacation :(	Mar 27 22:34
wispygalaxy	8 weeks, thats it	Mar 27 22:34
wispygalaxy	i got to go now guys, it was nice seeing you here	Mar 27 22:35
wispygalaxy	ill be back soon	Mar 27 22:35
Balrog_	see you =)	Mar 27 22:35
wispygalaxy	take care balrog_! :D	Mar 27 22:35
wispygalaxy	i'll catch you later petokraus and tony	Mar 27 22:36
PetoKraus	bye	Mar 27 22:36
PeterFA	Looks like Microsoft will try to buy up Novell someday, and get all the "rights" that SCO was suing over.	Mar 27 22:36
wispygalaxy	have a nice weekend!	Mar 27 22:36
wispygalaxy	see you later, roy! xx	Mar 27 22:37
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trmanco	time oowriter	Mar 27 22:37
trmanco	real0m6.253s	Mar 27 22:37
trmanco	user0m0.024s	Mar 27 22:37
trmanco	sys0m0.076s	Mar 27 22:37
trmanco	she should start shouting from time to time :-P	Mar 27 22:38
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trmanco	that was a cold start of writer	Mar 27 22:38
trmanco	time oowriter	Mar 27 22:39
trmanco	real0m1.469s	Mar 27 22:39
trmanco	user0m0.020s	Mar 27 22:39
trmanco	sys0m0.076s	Mar 27 22:39
schestowitz	Ã¢ââÃ¢ââ¬(22:40 $)Ã¢ââ¬> time oowriter	Mar 27 22:41
schestowitz	javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment!	Mar 27 22:41
schestowitz	0.35user 0.28system 0:06.14elapsed 10%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)	Mar 27 22:41
trmanco	oops	Mar 27 22:42
trmanco	no java?	Mar 27 22:42
schestowitz	second time: 0:02.14 elapsed (but my computer is loaded with lots of apps)	Mar 27 22:42
schestowitz	No, I don't need Java	Mar 27 22:42
schestowitz	I drink tea	Mar 27 22:42
trmanco	hmm, weird	Mar 27 22:42
schestowitz	Not really.	Mar 27 22:43
schestowitz	Normal	Mar 27 22:43
trmanco	I mean the "don't need java thing"	Mar 27 22:43
schestowitz	http://techdirt.com/articles/2009... (Canadian Court Orders Website To Disclose Personal Info Of Posters)	Mar 27 22:43
schestowitz	Prosecutor Who Threatened Teens With Child Porn Charges For Taking Pics Of Themselves Gets Sued < http://techdirt.com/articles/... > Haha.	Mar 27 22:45
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