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“ODF Has Truly Won,” Say OOXML Voices Again

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month or so ago, Microsoft argued that ODF had won. It tried to escape this comment later, but Erwin thought (he wrote so in his last blog post at Sun Microsystems) that it was part of Microsoft's plan to get closer to ODF (and maybe poison it more successfully from the inside). That too is something that got Microsoft's management pointing at Boycott Novell. They were concerned enough about our arguments to rebut, not to ignore.

Anyway, there's a bit of a deja vu now that the Microsoft-faithful Alex Brown [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21] publicly announces that ODF is in the lead.

OOXML will take second place following Microsoft’s announcement to support ODF, says Dr Alex Brown

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NOTES TO EDITORS

About Dr Alex Brown Alex Brown was convenor of the ISO/IEC DIS 29500 (OOXML) Ballot Resolution Process, and is convenor of the group overseeing its maintenance processes. He has recently been nominated to represent the publishing industry on the panel advising the British Library on handling digital submission of journal articles.


Why would he issue such a press release? Why bother? Why go out of his way?

Could he be trying to get people off his back? He got lots of flak, that's for sure. At least one person called for his resignation following involvement in the BSI fiasco. For information about the BSI, see previous posts such as:



Either way, whatever Alex Brown's motive was with his new press release, it's akin to that "ODF has clearly won" remark from Microsoft. It makes an illusion of apathy and reduces scrutiny. It's a dangerous apathy that neutralises hostility. Microsoft does this a lot when invading "Open Source" (if you reject their posturing they call you a "Microsoft hater" or use some other insulting labels that paint you as a fringe lunatic).

From a technical standpoint, think along the lines of embracing (and extending or crippling) HTML5 while having XAML devour the real standard, (X)HTML and JavaScript, including Ajax.

You also have to wonder why Brown still recommends that the British Library should use Microsoft's OOXML. It was pointed out earlier today.

It is rather funny to see ISO officials denying wrong deeds and irregularities because Even Alex Brown argued that ISO directives had failed. He recently wrote:

Unlike ODF and OOXML, however, I am beginning to believe the Directives have got to a state where they cannot be redeemed by evolution and amendment. It may be time to start again from scratch.


Brown was not alone:



Let's face it. OOXML is been a farce from start to finish. As The Inquirer put it a couple of days ago: The customer counts for nothing.

And as far as compatibility is concerned, you need not look further than Microsoft. It has been investing billions in its new wannabe-open format, which is actually a poxy pile of unstable zipped XML files - various bugs have been reported, especially concerning Excel. We should also mention that the document describing the standard is a six thousand-page monstrosity, which compares quite sadly to the less than one thousand pages description paper for the OpenDocument format.


It is important never to forget the truth about OOXML.

"Microsoft corrupted many members of ISO in order to win approval for its phony ‘open’ document format, OOXML. This was so governments that keep their documents in a Microsoft-only format can pretend that they are using ‘open standards.’ The government of South Africa has filed an appeal against the decision, citing the irregularities in the process."

--Richard Stallman, June 2008

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