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The Enemies of the Patent System Are Patent Maximalists, Not Those Pursuing Saner Patent Policy

On Gene Quinn, who is unable to debate like an adult (and blocked me after he had lost the argument)

Gene Quinn: Patent Twit of the Week
Reference: Gene Quinn (Watchtroll): Patent Twit of the Week



Summary: Taking stock of some recent news and remarking (yet again) on the danger the patent system faces if it allows patent lawyers rather than inventors to steer/influence policy (as seen in Europe with the failed UPC bid)

THE concept of patents is a controversial one, but only if one considers patents on things like thoughts, genetics (nature) and other stuff which doesn't constitute an invention. There have been studies about cause and effect and they are quite critical of the status quo.



The USPTO didn't always grant hundreds of thousands of patents per year. That's not because back in the old days there was less innovation and barely any inventions. Now that the law 'industry' is large enough to have platoons of lobbyists there's a push to make everything a patent. That's a problem.

"Now that the law 'industry' is large enough to have platoons of lobbyists there's a push to make everything a patent. That's a problem."We never opposed patents on physical things. "According to the terms of the agreement," said Floor Daily, "the parties agreed that the CMC patents are valid and enforceable."

We're talking about floors here. That's physical stuff.

And here's another new example from a manufacturing company. It's understandable that they're pursuing more patents. This one from yesterday is about Siemens. "In 2017," it says, "the university filed 106 U.S. patent applications, had 57 U.S. patents issued and saw a patent licensing income of nearly $4 million..."

"A system that loses sight of the importance of patent quality will simply render itself obsolete, over time (perishing in the public mind)."Siemens sells physical things for the most part. This is why Siemens is rarely mentioned here, except when it promotes software patents (that happened a very long time ago and never since).

How about this bunch of reports from last week regarding patents on drones? To quote: "An earlier patent application was for drones to monitor growing conditions of crops and send data to stores about when, and from where, the produce might arrive, Reuters said. So far, Walmart has applied for 46 drone technology patents, most of them for delivery and logistics, and for use within warehouses to track inventory."

Replacing some farmers with drones so that billionaires like the Waltons can get richer even faster may be an ethical/moral issue (see this response to ‘Innovation Kills Jobs’), but not the patents themselves are an issue. It's too easy to conflate these two things.

The California Institute of Technology v Broadcom Limited et al, a case which was noted a few days ago in Docket Navigator, speaks of physical things and primarily pertains to collection of evidence right now, notably:

The court denied plaintiff's motion to compel the production of a clawed back deposition exhibit and found the document was privileged.


There's also FieldTurf USA, Inc. et al v Astroturf, LLC, which Docket Navigator highlighted last week when it said:

Following a $30 million jury verdict and defendant's filing for bankruptcy, the court granted plaintiff's motion to amend its complaint to add defendant's co-owners as defendants along with alter ego and veil-piercing claims.


Docket Navigator also focused on a damages case:

The court overruled plaintiff's objections to the magistrate judge's order partially striking the report of plaintiff's damages expert.


As longtime readers already know, we prefer to concentrate on patent scope rather than matters like damages and privilege. We occasionally see patent maximalists attempting to portray us as "anti-patents" even though we value patent quality, unlike those patent maximalists. A system that loses sight of the importance of patent quality will simply render itself obsolete, over time (perishing in the public mind). So one might think of us as guardians of the system's integrity rather than its foe. The same goes for copyrights. There's nothing wrong with copyrights per se, but the way copyright law has evolved is totally detached from the realities of the Internet, public interest, preservation, folklore/culture and distribution.

This coming weekend we'll write a lot about €§ 101 and PTAB, which helps enforce €§ 101 at scale. €§ 101 deals with elimination of patents on abstract things, such as algorithms.

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