EditorsAbout the SiteComes vs. MicrosoftUsing This Web SiteSite ArchivesCredibility IndexOOXMLOpenDocumentPatentsNovellNews DigestSite NewsRSS

11.26.08

Quick Mention: More Layoffs at Microsoft

Posted in Microsoft at 4:59 pm by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Microsoft layoffs are an issue that we last explored a fortnight ago. It carries on.

Xconomy received a report last week that the Oslo, Norway-based FAST Search division of Microsoft, which has a 180-person outpost in Needham, MA, and a smaller office in New York, had laid off 25 people in its U.S. offices.

As pointed out in the comments here, there is more of this going on, but Microsoft keeps quiet despite its obligations to the investors.

It should not be surprising that over 10 times per day Boycott Novell welcomes a visitor searching for “Microsoft layoffs” (exact search phrase). People are curious, so they actively look for answers. They deserve answers.

Secret

Share in other sites/networks: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.
  • Reddit
  • email
  • Slashdot

If you liked this post, consider subscribing to the RSS feed or join us now at the IRC channels.

Pages that cross-reference this one

20 Comments

  1. G. Michaels said,

    November 26, 2008 at 8:13 pm

    Gravatar

    Roy, did you notice what your good friend and collaborator was doing today over on Slashdot?

    http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/218245

    Please remember this the next time you accuse someone of “witch hunts” directed at him. These two as well:

    http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/207689
    http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/206773

    Enjoy, as he likes to say.

    Note: writer of this comment adds absolutely nothing but stalking and personal attacks against readers, as documented here.

  2. Roy Schestowitz said,

    November 26, 2008 at 8:17 pm

    Gravatar

    My name is Roy, not “twitter”, the person whom you apparently stalk all over the Web.

    Get a life.

  3. G. Michaels said,

    November 26, 2008 at 8:22 pm

    Gravatar

    That’s why I said “your good friend and collaborator”.

    Since you’re so close to him, would you be a sport and ask him to stop stalking people on Slashdot, writing long articles about years’ worth of their posts and attaching snide and incorrect commentary to each of the links, please? That would be great. Also, if you could ask him again to stop using so many accounts there, that would be great as well.

    By the way, I like the new sidebar things you added. They look a lot better.

    Note: writer of this comment adds absolutely nothing but stalking and personal attacks against readers, as documented here.

  4. G. Michaels said,

    November 26, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    Gravatar

    Oh, someone posted a comment to the stalker’s journal here:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1043395&cid=25904147

    It actually bears quoting:

    ++++++
    Is this all you have left, Twitter? Is this what your subscription money is spent on?

    Looks to me like all you’ve done is pick a 4-digit UID at random, go through that user’s posting history, and apply your own special Ideological Purity test to his writings. Of course, your ideology is so irrationally absolute, you find him wanting.

    So how do you respond? Do you open a dialogue? Do you challenge him on his views? Do you dare reply to him, even once?

    No. You stay silent, wait until the afternoon before a holiday weekend, and assassinate his character in your journal, behind his back, for the unforgivable crime of not thinking exactly like you.

    And you think that this is somehow beneficial to the Free Software movement? The only thing these passive-aggressive tantrums are good for is declaring to all who can read that you are a petulant child.
    ++++++

    Your friends are true assets to the Free Software community, Roy. You should be proud.

    Note: writer of this comment adds absolutely nothing but stalking and personal attacks against readers, as documented here.

  5. David Gerard said,

    November 27, 2008 at 9:10 am

    Gravatar

    Microsoft are in the stumbling-idiot-with-money stage of acquisition fever. Desperate to find a way out of the monopoly trap, they frantically buy companies, then break them trying to turn them into tools to leverage the monopoly.

    Recent example: MultiMap.co.uk. I have a friend who worked there until shortly after the acquisition. The system was made from Perl on GNU/Linux. Microsoft couldn’t stand for this, so they fired several of the dev and admin team and most of the rest left because of how Microsoft was treating them.

    Compare Microsoft’s attempts to move Hotmail to NT.

    Microsoft acquisitions: where “synergy” is another word for “2+2=1.”

  6. David Gerard said,

    November 27, 2008 at 9:14 am

    Gravatar

    This thought just occurred to me:

    Microsoft knows it needs real innovation, so it buys disruptive innovators. But it thinks it can neutralise the disruption without also destroying the innovation. This trick keeps failing. They keep doing it.

    “2+2=1″ first occurred to me when they were trying to buy Yahoo. That would have “added value” like a particle and antiparticle annihilating.

  7. Roy Schestowitz said,

    November 27, 2008 at 9:21 am

    Gravatar

    Yes, you’ve hit this nail on the head.

    They probably realise that Yahoo! would not make sense, but they want to convert Yahoo! search users into Live/MSN/whatever users so that they can harvest some more personal information (for ads/search results) and brag about market share gains. Same with Hotmail…

  8. David Gerard said,

    November 27, 2008 at 9:29 am

    Gravatar

    “and brag about market share gains.”

    The decline of IBM or the Soviet Union in the 1980s – when internal managerial goals take ridiculous precedence over actually working to keep the organisation functional and productive.

    “Same with Hotmail…”

    I think they were realising back that far that a monopoly is a trap, and considered Hotmail a good way to get in on the ground floor of this Internet thing; monetising it could come later. Public web-based email is an obvious idea in retrospect, but it was amazing and groundbreaking at the time.

  9. Roy Schestowitz said,

    November 27, 2008 at 9:44 am

    Gravatar

    Laying out the technologies is essential though. Why is Microsoft still refusing to support SVG, which would enable JS to achieve much of what we have with RIAs? Even the father of the WWW recently denounced Microsoft for it.

    See this, among other memos on the subject.

    BillG (1995): “Given that we are looking at the internet destroying our position as the setter of standards and APIs do you see things we should be doing to use ACT assets to avoid this?

    In reply to: “As an example of Bill’s point, Dan Ling showed me this morning that Satan (the new internet ” daemon :-)) actually uses HTML as a user interface. Other software may begin to do this. It’s easy. It produces a reasonable looking machine independent UI rather quickly. It’s dangerous from our perspective of wanting to make and preserve valuable standards. There are plenty of other examples.

    You know what Microsoft did to Netscape afterwards.

  10. AlexH said,

    November 27, 2008 at 11:05 am

    Gravatar

    The problems with SVG are more than just ‘MS haven’t done it yet’, though. It doesn’t have a flag-bearer.

    Even on Firefox (or similar) where the SVG support is relatively good, it’s still not close to approaching the feature set of (say) Flash. There would be no need for <canvas> either, if SVG was actually much use.

    And, as I’ve said before, none of the content creation tools output SVG.

  11. Roy Schestowitz said,

    November 27, 2008 at 11:07 am

    Gravatar

    …it’s still not close to approaching the feature set of (say) Flash.

    That’s besides the point.

    And, as I’ve said before, none of the content creation tools output SVG.

    Chicken and egg. Tell Microsoft to fix its wares.

  12. AlexH said,

    November 27, 2008 at 11:12 am

    Gravatar

    People aren’t using Microsoft tools to create RIA content though (aside from Silverlight, which I assume we both agree is a minority player right now).

    If you think that SVG’s feature set, compared to Flash, is besides the point, then how on earth does SVG enable JS to do RIA-style work?

  13. Roy Schestowitz said,

    November 27, 2008 at 11:23 am

    Gravatar

    I don’t want to descend to techno-philosophical discussions, but one could argue, “why not just take the complicated desktop API to the Web and be done with it?”

    The Web is open, standard, and cross-platform. Silverlight is fighting all these values and it should be therefore rejected.

  14. AlexH said,

    November 27, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    Gravatar

    Right, but the point is about SVG. The failure of take-up of that standard isn’t down to MS in any rational examination; it has much broader problems.

  15. Roy Schestowitz said,

    November 27, 2008 at 12:31 pm

    Gravatar

    I beg to differ. Just look at adoption of proper and rich CSS, not to mention translucent PNGs.

  16. AlexH said,

    November 27, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    Gravatar

    Sure, look at the adoption of those standards: Opera, Firefox, Chrome, Safari et. al. all support those much better than IE does and they’re gaining market-share strongly as a result because they’re better browsers.

    Then look at SVG, and see how support is barely beyond beta and how basically no-one is using it.

    XHTML2.0 is a standard too. Even fewer people care about that, either, and it’s not because of IE.

  17. David Gerard said,

    November 27, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    Gravatar

    I assume we’re speaking specifically of dynamic SVG here, since static SVG is alive and well and in wide use.

  18. Roy Schestowitz said,

    November 27, 2008 at 12:55 pm

    Gravatar

    For context:

    Creator of Web spots a flaw in Internet Explorer

    “Tim Berners-Lee, the British-born inventor of the World Wide Web, said this week that Internet Explorer is falling behind other browsers in the way it handles scalable vector graphics.”

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26646919/

  19. AlexH said,

    November 27, 2008 at 1:00 pm

    Gravatar

    @David: well, I think “wide usage” is possibly stretching it a bit, but yes – the context was the RIA discussion; interactivity, animation, etc.

  20. Roy Schestowitz said,

    November 27, 2008 at 1:12 pm

    Gravatar

    JavaScript for state, although CSS can achieve similar effects.

What Else is New


  1. Links 30/9/2020: Nitrux 1.3.3, Tracker 3.0

    Links for the day



  2. [Meme] Is IBM's Proprietary Software Surveillance in the 2020 Election a Form of Corporate 'Meddling'?

    Called after an infamous recipient of a Nazi medal (Mr. Watson), an “app” with secret code and remote logging/recording will be used to determine whether the Orange One gets re-elected



  3. Learning to Say “No!” to Tyrants

    IBM continues with its old and oppressive/repressive agenda, even if this time around it's thinly disguised as "tolerance" and "ethics"



  4. Links 29/9/2020: Fedora 33 Beta, Krita 4.4.0 Beta 2, Stellarium 0.20.3 and Mesa 20.2 Released; 20 Million Downloads From the LVFS

    Links for the day



  5. Another Day of ZDNet Being ZDNet, Calling Windows “Linux” (to Confuse People and Help Microsoft Sell Vista 10)

    Microsoft propaganda site ZDNet is keeping up with the tradition of presenting Windows as "Linux" and promoting Windows even in the "Linux" section of the site



  6. [Meme] It's Crazy Not to Eliminate Lame Words That Might Offend Somebody

    If the word “stupid” offends you, then maybe programming isn’t for you, in the same sense that submitting patches with Git over E-mail shouldn't be hard if/when you can develop decent code with sanity checks



  7. IBM Fought for 'Master Race' and Now It's Banning the Word 'Master'

    A lot of the current push to ban the word "master" came from Red Hat (soon IBM, helped by Intel and Microsoft for the most part); we take a hard look at IBM's history to better understand the incredible double standards and what the real motivations might be



  8. IBM's Founder, Mr. Watson (Yes, That Watson), Had “Very Keen Sense of Public Relations”

    "Watson" is a lot more offensive than those supposedly offensive words IBM is working to purge; think about those hundreds of Red Hat workers who are black and were never told about ethnic purges of blacks facilitated by IBM (their new boss)



  9. Under IBM's Leadership Red Hat Becomes a SPAM Marketing Operation, Sending Mass Mails Without Authorisation and Making It Impossible to Unsubscribe

    Red Hat seems incapable of respecting people's inboxes; it subscribes people to things which they never ever subscribed to and makes it impossible to unsubscribe; what has Red Hat become or succumbed to?



  10. EFF: Sitting on a Massive Pile of Money and Members Are Less Than a Third of the Revenue

    As part of our series which explores non-profits turning against their goals (sometimes in pursuit of money, even if that means sellout) we take a good look at the EFF in this age of unprecedented consolidation of wealth and power



  11. IRC Proceedings: Monday, September 28, 2020

    IRC logs for Monday, September 28, 2020



  12. [Meme] Running Public (or Private) Interest Groups for Profit

    The Linux Foundation is picking up some more ‘surveillance capitalism’ money, in the name of… ‘helping’ Linux?



  13. The Concept of Martyrdom in Free Software and the Threat of Demonisation in the Media

    Leaders or figureheads of public interest advocacy are being dismissed as crazy and rude whilst corporations that maim and kill millions of people are spun as "professional" and even "altruistic"; don't fall for it



  14. More Money Does Not Necessarily Mean More Stable Organisations

    The corporate takeover of Free software (privatising the Commons) is a real problem that nobody in the media seems to be talking about, partly because this media is itself corporate and hence part of (participant in) the 'coup'



  15. EPO Management Looks for New and 'Innovative' Ways to Exploit Scientists and Distract From EPO Corruption

    EPO management is desperate for puff pieces, having just produced some greenwashing nonsense (about a dozen press items about this non-event) and now a bunch of self-promotional videos



  16. Before the New York Times Did a Number on Donald Trump It Changed Bill Gates' Tune

    When you speak strictly through a spokesperson it often means you're lying and/or hiding something; the Gates enigma remains unsolved more than a year later



  17. Links 28/9/2020: Linux 5.9 RC7, Review of Linuxfx 10.6, OpenSSH 8.4

    Links for the day



  18. Speaking Through Spokespeople is a Sign of Weakness, Such as Non-Denying and False Denials (or: Bill Gates Never Denied His Connections to MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein)

    Big liars lie shamelessly; the biggest liars lie through proxies and today we examine the evasive tactics of Bill Gates and his associates (who were closely connected to Jeffrey Epstein but refuse to even talk about that, except indirectly)



  19. IRC Proceedings: Sunday, September 27, 2020

    IRC logs for Sunday, September 27, 2020



  20. Accounting for Debconf 19 Travel... in 2020

    A deeper look or analysis of Debian expenditures, which grew more than twicefold for travel last year



  21. Don't Let Microsoft Make 'Open Source' Synonymous With Proprietary Monopoly GitHub

    Now that the OSI works for Microsoft instead of Open Source (no, GitHub isn’t Open Source; it’s inherently against Open Source) we need to understand the modus operandi and learn from old mistakes



  22. Links 27/9/2020: Puppy Linux 9.5, Nitrux 1.3.3

    Links for the day



  23. Public Relations and Tolerance Stunts Are Very, Very Cheap

    It's 2020 and people are asked to focus on superficial aspects of corporations rather than anything of substance (like the effects on society at large, notably exploitation and long-term harm)



  24. Open to Everything

    It always starts with good intentions...



  25. The OSI's President Apparently Does Not Know That His Own Employer (Salesforce) Works for ICE

    The hypocrisy (or double standard) of the OSI’s President is astounding; taking salaries paid in part by ICE budget (Salesforce works for ICE and similarly evil agencies) while protesting in a proprietary software platform of Microsoft (GitHub) about ICE (all this whilst actively participating in it regardless)



  26. [Meme] Communist Tactics

    To Microsoft, Linux is communism until Microsoft controls it (and then runs over it to crush it, the typical modus operandi)



  27. OSI President: Most or Half of the OSI's Money (Even Individual Donors' Money) Goes to a Microsoft-Led Initiative

    The OSI has turned from advocate of "Open Source" (a disingenuous attempt to set aside Free/libre software) to advocate of Microsoft and GitHub in just 3 years (since taking Microsoft's money/bribes)



  28. IRC Proceedings: Saturday, September 26, 2020

    IRC logs for Saturday, September 26, 2020



  29. The 24/7 'Tech' Worker (Babysitter of User-hostile Computing) and 'Expensive' Programmer

    The rights of workers are being reduced to nothing (many in their older years made redundant), even in an occupation that is indirectly responsible for automating and thus deprecating jobs in many other occupations



  30. Why Techrights is Totally Unexcited About the New Owner of Linux Journal

    Linux Journal might soon become an anti-Linux site (veiled hostility) if Slashdot's editorial preferences are anything to go by (Slashdot has just seized control of Linux Journal)


RSS 64x64RSS Feed: subscribe to the RSS feed for regular updates

Home iconSite Wiki: You can improve this site by helping the extension of the site's content

Home iconSite Home: Background about the site and some key features in the front page

Chat iconIRC Channel: Come and chat with us in real time

Recent Posts