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06.10.09

Novell Develops for Windows Development Tools

Posted in Microsoft, Mono, Novell, Red Hat, Ubuntu at 7:02 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Summary: Novell turns its attention to Microsoft’s Visual Studio

SOME DAYS AGO we saw Novell integrating Mono (MonoDevelop) and Windows [1, 2]. Novell is now advancing Visual Studio as well, which makes one wonder what Novell is doing for GNU/Linux (all things considered).

Mono Tools for Visual Studio have been released to a limited number of developers for a closed preview cycle.

This first release of the Mono tools integrates four major pieces of new functionality into Visual Studio…

It’s all about .NET and as James Plamondon (Microsoft Technical Evangelist) once put it [PDF]: “Every line of code that is written to our standards is a small victory; every line of code that is written to any other standard, is a small defeat.”

Novell gives Microsoft some victories. After all, why not? Microsoft funnels money into Novell to get its money’s worth.

Here is the direct link and some coverage from IDG:

The Mono Project has been sponsored by Novell as an effort to develop an open source Unix version of the .Net platform. “Its objective is to enable Unix developers to build and deploy cross-platform .Net Applications. The project implements various technologies developed by Microsoft that have now been submitted to the ECMA for standardization,” the Mono Web site states.

So what if was submitted to the ECMA for standardisation? It does not mean that there are no software patents and it does not mean that this ECMA reference won’t get ignored (then ‘extended’) by Microsoft. ECMA does not even offer any guarantees.

In other such news, Fedora is getting rid of Mono by default and it also neglects Mono-based software in general. Well, maybe f-spot is just an exception, but it’s interesting nonetheless. Ubuntu is a more difficult case:

Ubuntu censoring rap

[...]

In fact they even not care of providing a place for discussion to happen. Ubuntu does not care about Mono issues. It’s not that people are not allowed to talk. It’s that every place they find is the wrong place. There’s no such place inside the Ubuntu community facilities.

Is has gotten very hard to inform Canonical/Ubuntu about the issues.

“Our partnership with Microsoft continues to expand.”

Ron Hovsepian, Novell CEO

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7 Comments

  1. eet said,

    June 10, 2009 at 7:54 am

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    You are really loosing, aren’t you?

    Yeah, ‘maybe F-Spot is an exception in Fedora’. Well, big, BIG ‘maybe’ here – Rhythmbox is dead, so next up: Banshee in Ubuntu AND Fedora as well as any other major distro! Unless, of course, somebody re-writes Banshee in ‘C’ within the next six months… ;p

    Get over it; nobody in Ubuntu need paying by M$ for liking Mono-applications; they’re simply that good.

    Your crazy-paranoid conspiracist view of the world will not change that.

  2. eet said,

    June 10, 2009 at 8:00 am

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    BTW, cudos to Novell for developing Mono tools for .NET; it will help me enormously when I pester Windows-centric developers about providing a Linux/Mono-version of their .NET-applications! They will have no excuse not to port these babies, ha! :D

    Myfraudsoft Reply:

    eet, you lying troll, you know damn well that mono isn’t and won’t ever be used to port windows apps to Linux

    eet Reply:

    Thanks for being abusive… Or ‘ad-hominem’, as Roy likes to say,

    Anyhooo; HOW do you want to hinder developers – whether from big, medium-sized or small companies, or free developers – to release commercial or non-commercial applications for Linux?

    You’d need another damn-big conspiracy theory if you really want to try and answer that. ;)

    I think that with Mono tools for .NET available, Linux versions of .NET-apps are simply a free meal for any .NET developer!

    Moo Reply:

    mono isn’t and won’t ever be used to port windows apps to Linux

    Can you point to any evidence that supports the finality in this assertion?

    Colin Reply:

    For one example, the well regarded Windows password manager KeePass http://www.keepass.info runs on Linux now through mono.

  3. pcolon said,

    June 10, 2009 at 6:36 pm

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    There is also Kwallet manager (no mono).

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