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| schestowitz | Just like ti deceived many about sub-notebooks | Apr 30 11:49 |
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| schestowitz | To scare OEMs | Apr 30 11:49 |
| schestowitz | Canonical responded | Apr 30 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft thrives by hiding how much money you are paying them into the cost of the equipment you buy | Apr 30 11:49 |
| schestowitz | It's the old "get the facts" routine | Apr 30 11:49 |
| schestowitz | Lie, lie, and lie | Apr 30 11:49 |
| oiaohm | Microsoft cost is also off set with crap ware. | Apr 30 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | no, that would be OEM crapware | Apr 30 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft isn't real thrilled about that | Apr 30 11:50 |
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| DaemonFC | I can't blame them | Apr 30 11:50 |
| oiaohm | OEM only do it because windows costs too much. | Apr 30 11:50 |
| DaemonFC | Whatever Vista doesn't screw up, you have a dancing circus of shit from your OEM that makes Windows look even worse than it is | Apr 30 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | Norton anyone? | Apr 30 11:51 |
| oiaohm | Also MS allows OEM to supply the crap ware embeded in the installer disk. | Apr 30 11:51 |
| oiaohm | So when you reinstall you get it all back. | Apr 30 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | no, they can't stop them | Apr 30 11:51 |
| oiaohm | Yes they can. | Apr 30 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | if they did there's be some kind of a lawsuit | Apr 30 11:52 |
| oiaohm | They can legally require installer disk to be provided as is. | Apr 30 11:52 |
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| DaemonFC | "Microsoft is blocking our bullshit from pre-infecting Windows, boohoo!!!!" | Apr 30 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 30 11:52 |
| oiaohm | So then they would have to provide 2 disks not 1. | Apr 30 11:52 |
| oiaohm | Ie 1 infected with crap one not. | Apr 30 11:52 |
| MinceR | they're thinking about fixing a sechole that's been around for 14 years already? :> | Apr 30 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | or one with the trialware installers | Apr 30 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | and let the user decide | Apr 30 11:53 |
| MinceR | (autorun) | Apr 30 11:53 |
| oiaohm | Exactly. | Apr 30 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | which removes their reason for doing it | Apr 30 11:53 |
| schestowitz | A GUI for ffmpeg < http://www.linuxjournal.com/vide... > Cool | Apr 30 11:53 |
| oiaohm | If MS was truly upset by it they could do something. | Apr 30 11:53 |
| oiaohm | By doing nothing they support it. | Apr 30 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | Dell actually makes you pay them MORE MONEY to request a clean copy of Windows without all their crap | Apr 30 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | an extra $50 I believe? | Apr 30 11:54 |
| oiaohm | Yep | Apr 30 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | Isn't that just a load of shit? | Apr 30 11:54 |
| oiaohm | Because the crap pays the 50 dollars | Apr 30 11:54 |
| oiaohm | To be installed. | Apr 30 11:54 |
| oiaohm | With deals I could be doing the same thing. | Apr 30 11:55 |
| oiaohm | I just choose not to abuse my customers that way. | Apr 30 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | I really wonder why Dell started that IdeaStorm website | Apr 30 11:55 |
| oiaohm | You are aware that 25 dollors of that 50 dollars is to install trial versions of MS office. | Apr 30 11:55 |
| oiaohm | This is where the complete idea that MS does not support it is crap. | Apr 30 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | Why the hell would you want MS Office? | Apr 30 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | the latest versions of Go-OO are fairly compatible | Apr 30 11:56 |
| oiaohm | OEM installing computers it 25 dollars I can cut off my price. | Apr 30 11:57 |
| oiaohm | In theory on netbooks you could be geting paid for windows. | Apr 30 11:58 |
| DaemonFC | I just don't get why anyone would pay to activate that shit | Apr 30 11:59 |
| schestowitz | The red hat RPMs work with Mandriva | Apr 30 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | if nobody did, then the stuff would just go away | Apr 30 11:59 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: If they don't have external dependencies they will, yeah | Apr 30 12:00 |
| schestowitz | But I'm already good with the CLI | Apr 30 12:02 |
| schestowitz | So the GUI is pointless | Apr 30 12:02 |
| schestowitz | GUIs are good only if you use them before you get used to the CLI | Apr 30 12:02 |
| schestowitz | Linux poses a serious threat to its rivals on non-x86 platforms... http://www.linux-netbook.com/video/google... http://www.electronicsweekly.com/blogs... | Apr 30 12:04 |
| benkai | Is anybody having a copy of the Video where Ballmer said: People use Red Hat, at least with respect to our intellectual property in a sense have an obligation to eventually to compensate us" ( http://www.betanews.com/article/Mic... ) | Apr 30 12:05 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/... 10 reasons you'll want to install GNU/Linux (latest version) | Apr 30 12:05 |
| schestowitz | benkai: yes | Apr 30 12:05 |
| schestowitz | One of us clipped it | Apr 30 12:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?... | Apr 30 12:05 |
| benkai | schestowitz: Kudos, that was quick, I searched for it for quite some time!! | Apr 30 12:07 |
| benkai | Thanks for being there, I knew the quote but for preparing work on a anti-patent PR, I was asked for the source, so thanks! | Apr 30 12:10 |
| schestowitz | I can't download youtube vids | Apr 30 12:15 |
| schestowitz | They seem to have broken something | Apr 30 12:15 |
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| schestowitz | My two cents on improving GNOME < http://manishtech.wordpress.com/200... > | Apr 30 12:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news... "A FRENCH computer technician was handed a suspended 1,000 euro fine for "insulting a public official" after he sent an email attack on Justice Minister Rachida Dati." | Apr 30 12:30 |
| schestowitz | Insulting French politicians is a crime now... http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-technolog... | Apr 30 12:31 |
| MinceR | it tends to be a crime to insult local dictators | Apr 30 12:32 |
| schestowitz | Charlie's baaaack! XP Mode in Windows 7 is a scam < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/new... > | Apr 30 12:34 |
| schestowitz | *sigh* More corruption... Motorola ex-CFO denies destroying evidence < http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-t... > | Apr 30 12:38 |
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| oiaohm | Depends how he insulted him. | Apr 30 12:45 |
| oiaohm | Being a IT officer it can be creative. | Apr 30 12:45 |
| MinceR | funny, the inq article has a separate "Flame the author" button | Apr 30 12:48 |
| schestowitz | New video. http://boycottnovell.com/2009/04/30... Did YouTube change download workarounds? | Apr 30 12:49 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they could make it a flash animation | Apr 30 12:50 |
| schestowitz | Interactive grill with the authors' mug attached to it | Apr 30 12:50 |
| oiaohm | Some work some don't schestowitz | Apr 30 12:50 |
| schestowitz | Why? | Apr 30 12:50 |
| oiaohm | Something to do with encoding of video. | Apr 30 12:50 |
| schestowitz | That's what I see too | Apr 30 12:50 |
| MinceR | i prefer not to have a flash animation there :> | Apr 30 12:51 |
| schestowitz | To hell with them | Apr 30 12:51 |
| schestowitz | Use to work OK | Apr 30 12:51 |
| schestowitz | *used | Apr 30 12:51 |
| oiaohm | From there start there was always that smaller percent that did not work. | Apr 30 12:51 |
| oiaohm | I have never worked out why. | Apr 30 12:51 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/... "Manchester University has been censured by the Information Commissioner's Office for publishing personal information about students." Just reason to have less databases out there. | Apr 30 12:54 |
| schestowitz | As staff I had access to records of all staff and students. | Apr 30 12:54 |
| schestowitz | An even better Linux-based O/S may be coming from Palm: http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/... | Apr 30 12:55 |
| MinceR | they don't say how it's going to be better | Apr 30 12:56 |
| MinceR | will it be called Póst? :> | Apr 30 12:56 |
| schestowitz | Linux Phones from Acer? http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2... | Apr 30 12:56 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: just Pós. | Apr 30 12:57 |
| MinceR | :D | Apr 30 12:57 |
| oiaohm | Palm will be using a Linux kernel with there own custom interface on top. | Apr 30 12:59 |
| oiaohm | Prototypes already exist schestowitz | Apr 30 12:59 |
| schestowitz | "DeviceGuru recently reported on a reader’s discovery that his “Energy Star compliant” Sony HDTV was consuming 200 times its advertised standby power." http://www.deviceguru.com/epa-moves... | Apr 30 13:05 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, Palm is not ideal | Apr 30 13:05 |
| schestowitz | Just Linux+'stuff' | Apr 30 13:05 |
| oiaohm | Its still a extra developer for the Linux kernel. | Apr 30 13:06 |
| schestowitz | Will they write drivers and patches for Linux? | Apr 30 13:06 |
| schestowitz | More important,t will desktop Linux be supported? | Apr 30 13:06 |
| schestowitz | If not, they'll be slammed | Apr 30 13:06 |
| schestowitz | Like TomTom | Apr 30 13:06 |
| schestowitz | gnote (Mono killer) is out: http://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog/?2... | Apr 30 13:08 |
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| iwmw | does it look like a hedgehog? *:> ? | Apr 30 13:09 |
| oiaohm | http://ostatic.com/blog/miros-creative-f... Ok this is warped fund rasing. | Apr 30 13:11 |
| schestowitz | "As much as I want to support the developers for their hard work, I will NOT support a company that willingly damages their honest customer's systems." http://www.zdnet.co.uk/talkback/0,10... | Apr 30 13:15 |
| oiaohm | Using illegal software does not mean you will not get worse than the copyprotection. Ie a worm. | Apr 30 13:21 |
| oiaohm | I have nothing against turning backs on companies that put DRM on there media. | Apr 30 13:22 |
| oiaohm | Going accross to the wrong side is not a solution. | Apr 30 13:22 |
| oiaohm | Ok schestowitz that video you cannot download I can. | Apr 30 13:25 |
| schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/tec... will I get fined for cursing Sarko? | Apr 30 13:26 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: how do you do it? | Apr 30 13:26 |
| schestowitz | Iried two routes | Apr 30 13:26 |
| schestowitz | *tired | Apr 30 13:27 |
| schestowitz | *tried | Apr 30 13:27 |
| oiaohm | Downloader helper in firefox | Apr 30 13:28 |
| schestowitz | This one if even worse than wikia and Cuil (remember? "Google Killer?") http://news.bbc.co.uk/1... | Apr 30 13:29 |
| oiaohm | I can even download low def and high def schestowitz | Apr 30 13:30 |
| schestowitz | I'm installing it | Apr 30 13:31 |
| oiaohm | There are ones downloader helper cannot get. | Apr 30 13:32 |
| oiaohm | There is no perfect youtube extractor. | Apr 30 13:33 |
| oiaohm | Also you need to close the tab from where you start the video from to download it. | Apr 30 13:33 |
| schestowitz | I think I got it | Apr 30 13:40 |
| oiaohm | It should have had the correct name on it. | Apr 30 13:46 |
| schestowitz | I'm gonna be out for a while. | Apr 30 13:50 |
| iwmw | you can always take it from cache | Apr 30 14:05 |
| iwmw | unless it was only stored in memory :) | Apr 30 14:06 |
| iwmw | the cache should be big enough to keep that file | Apr 30 14:06 |
| oiaohm | Web server cache like squid yes. | Apr 30 14:10 |
| oiaohm | Flash can be set to not cache or encrypt stream then you are kinda stuffed. | Apr 30 14:11 |
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| thanks for the Inquirer story about Vista 7 "XP mode", that was a proper analysis of a scam and the people perpetuating it. | Apr 30 14:35 | |
| trmanco | http://blogs.itworldcanada.com/ido... | Apr 30 14:43 |
| trmanco | wtf | Apr 30 14:43 |
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| trmanco | gnote 0.3.0 is out | Apr 30 15:44 |
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| trmanco | http://mail.gnome.org/archives/ft... | Apr 30 15:44 |
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| the11thplague | Hum, nice chat ! | Apr 30 15:48 |
| MinceR | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2... | Apr 30 15:49 |
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| trmanco | http://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog... | Apr 30 15:57 |
| trmanco | so people having that type of flu don't have the right to live anymore? geesh | Apr 30 16:01 |
| MinceR | people never had that right | Apr 30 16:03 |
| MinceR | they were graciously allowed to live by the usian government! | Apr 30 16:03 |
| trmanco | hmm | Apr 30 16:05 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: yes, I found out about gnote this morning | Apr 30 16:33 |
| trmanco | I'm spreing the release on my blog | Apr 30 16:33 |
| trmanco | spreading* | Apr 30 16:33 |
| schestowitz | twitter saw the article about Paul de Shilla and the other Vista7 boosters | Apr 30 16:33 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: cool! | Apr 30 16:33 |
| trmanco | I just can't find a proper logo/image :| | Apr 30 16:33 |
| schestowitz | I was going to post in COLA also, unless you do. | Apr 30 16:33 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: IDG spread loads of FUD | Apr 30 16:34 |
| schestowitz | More than before | Apr 30 16:34 |
| trmanco | schestowitz, already did :-P | Apr 30 16:34 |
| schestowitz | I threr their feed earlier this month. They annoy me too much | Apr 30 16:34 |
| schestowitz | *threw | Apr 30 16:34 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: good, that takes it off me[sic] back | Apr 30 16:34 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: "usian army" | Apr 30 16:35 |
| trmanco | but post it again :-P, no problem repeating announcements of good software, btw I might be killfiled by some, so if you post it will probably reach a bigger audience | Apr 30 16:35 |
| schestowitz | "Eurasian army" http://www.youtube.com/watch?... | Apr 30 16:35 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: the trolls have no killfiles | Apr 30 16:35 |
| schestowitz | They are there to cause riots | Apr 30 16:36 |
| trmanco | I mean advocates | Apr 30 16:36 |
| schestowitz | Advocate don't kf advocates | Apr 30 16:36 |
| trmanco | some of them might killfile the hole newserver | Apr 30 16:36 |
| schestowitz | AAAH! | Apr 30 16:36 |
| trmanco | :-P | Apr 30 16:36 |
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| schestowitz | cogeca and mozarella | Apr 30 16:36 |
| schestowitz | I thought about kfing Google groups | Apr 30 16:37 |
| trmanco | http://media.ubuntuusers.de/porta... | Apr 30 16:37 |
| trmanco | found this | Apr 30 16:37 |
| schestowitz | but nessuno and others post from ther | Apr 30 16:37 |
| schestowitz | Terra also | Apr 30 16:37 |
| schestowitz | I get Google News highlighted in blue | Apr 30 16:37 |
| schestowitz | The Gary Shill posts fake testimonies from there. | Apr 30 16:37 |
| schestowitz | hub can hopefully improve it beyong tomboy once it's mimicked fully | Apr 30 16:38 |
| schestowitz | Leaving mono i the dust | Apr 30 16:38 |
| schestowitz | *in | Apr 30 16:38 |
| trmanco | there is till a lot of stuff to do | Apr 30 16:40 |
| schestowitz | brb | Apr 30 16:41 |
| trmanco | can't find an official logo, I'm going to use tomboys | Apr 30 16:41 |
| trmanco | it comes with tomboys icons anyway, so I think there is no problem with this | Apr 30 16:41 |
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| schestowitz | Hi, anivar | Apr 30 16:51 |
| anivar | hi schestowitz | Apr 30 16:52 |
| anivar | having a fight with Launchpad guys | Apr 30 16:52 |
| schestowitz | OT: I quite like this explanation of how the public transportation in The States was retarted by companies that sell car and how people are made selfish and isolated so as to make them weak. http://www.youtube.com/watch... | Apr 30 16:52 |
| schestowitz | anivar: over Mononucleosis? | Apr 30 16:53 |
| anivar | No Licensing Translations under BSD | Apr 30 16:53 |
| schestowitz | Heh. http://www.blogicalthoughts.com... | Apr 30 16:54 |
| anivar | For Contributing to Non Free Rosetta we have to agree our Translations are under BSD | Apr 30 16:54 |
| schestowitz | anivar: I see....... | Apr 30 16:54 |
| anivar | https://help.launchpad.net/Tran... | Apr 30 16:54 |
| schestowitz | What's their response? | Apr 30 16:54 |
| schestowitz | Oh, you beat me to it | Apr 30 16:54 |
| anivar | They took Translations from Upstream and user contributions on Rosetta licenses under BSD | Apr 30 16:55 |
| anivar | No Response So far. we are actually on a chicken egg problem | Apr 30 16:55 |
| trmanco | just published the gnote post | Apr 30 16:56 |
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| anivar | Because of lack of quality control in Rosetta, a lot of spoilers are there. we work on upstream but that will be spoiled in ubutu. If we want to fix it we need to go to rosetta and relicense our translations under BSD | Apr 30 16:56 |
| schestowitz | The More Things Change... The More They Stay The Same, Music Piracy Edition < http://www.techdirt.com/arti... > | Apr 30 16:57 |
| schestowitz | MAFIAAism | Apr 30 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Worse than Apple even | Apr 30 16:57 |
| trmanco | anivar, you translate for gnome projects? | Apr 30 16:57 |
| anivar | trmanco: Yes we have a group for Malayalam (ml) Language. Called as Swathanthra Malayalam Computing. | Apr 30 16:58 |
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| anivar | It is a Big a group with 100+ Translators and Developers | Apr 30 16:58 |
| schestowitz | Threat Level Privacy, Crime and Security Online < http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009... > Real transparency, oh yeah... | Apr 30 16:59 |
| the_mad_hatter | Roy, there's an article in the Financial Times about the French Nuclear Energy operator EDF spying on Greenpeace, through use of a Trojan. If they have have been running anything other than Windows, the Trojan wouldn't have worked. | Apr 30 16:59 |
| the_mad_hatter | http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/bc45ab84-2... | Apr 30 16:59 |
| trmanco | anivar, how can I start translating for gnome projects? I've looked into it, but it's kind of intimidating to join a translation team in gnome... and I'm also not sure what to do to start translating something | Apr 30 16:59 |
| trmanco | can you give me some tips? | Apr 30 16:59 |
| schestowitz | the_mad_hatter: is this the protest they sabotaged | Apr 30 16:59 |
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| schestowitz | Where the British police coopreated with multinational vs democratic forces? | Apr 30 17:00 |
| anivar | trmanco: which language | Apr 30 17:00 |
| trmanco | pt_PT | Apr 30 17:00 |
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| anivar | Do you have a translation team already? | Apr 30 17:01 |
| trmanco | yeah, I think so, it's just (pt) -> http://l10n.gnome.org/teams/pt | Apr 30 17:02 |
| anivar | trmanco: Contact with your Translation Coordinator and submit your po files | Apr 30 17:03 |
| anivar | translated po files | Apr 30 17:03 |
| anivar | Or do you have technical doubts in Translation/ | Apr 30 17:03 |
| anivar | ? | Apr 30 17:03 |
| trmanco | so I have to translate something before I can enter a team, right? | Apr 30 17:03 |
| anivar | yes | Apr 30 17:04 |
| anivar | Install poedit | Apr 30 17:04 |
| anivar | Set your Translation name | Apr 30 17:04 |
| trmanco | ah, I knew I was missing something | Apr 30 17:04 |
| anivar | and download a POT file from current trunk and rename it as .pt.po and Translate it with POedit | Apr 30 17:05 |
| anivar | And sent it to your language Coordinator or Translation mailing list | Apr 30 17:06 |
| trmanco | anivar, thanks | Apr 30 17:06 |
| trmanco | you just solved my problem | Apr 30 17:06 |
| anivar | If he lags in submitting it on time you can discuss it in Gnome-l10n list and ask for an svn access . The Team seems to be pretty active | Apr 30 17:07 |
| trmanco | I'm already subed to that list | Apr 30 17:08 |
| anivar | trmanco: May be you can start from translating gnote http://l10n.gnome.org/modu... | Apr 30 17:08 |
| trmanco | yeah | Apr 30 17:08 |
| trmanco | that's why I wanted to be a gnome translator in the first place | Apr 30 17:08 |
| trmanco | it already has been translated though | Apr 30 17:08 |
| anivar | translate user guide if u have time | Apr 30 17:09 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/... FUD from the cartel. "Government given five-year TV and film piracy warning" More enforcement, LESS viewers | Apr 30 17:09 |
| schestowitz | Billion-Dollar Baby: We Drive the Chevrolet Volt < http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/04/bil... > They should let GM go bankrupt. It failed. It capitalism, it should be dissolved and let successful companies replace it | Apr 30 17:12 |
| trmanco | anivar, I'll try | Apr 30 17:12 |
| trmanco | I have to translate it all before I submit it right? | Apr 30 17:13 |
| anivar | No . You can submit partially translated ones too. Join in ur language Translation list and mention that u r translationg to avoid duplication | Apr 30 17:15 |
| schestowitz | They should also do lang-modes | Apr 30 17:16 |
| schestowitz | Like ghetto-mode | Apr 30 17:16 |
| schestowitz | Where the help menu is called "Word! | Apr 30 17:16 |
| schestowitz | " | Apr 30 17:16 |
| schestowitz | Or humour-mode | Apr 30 17:16 |
| schestowitz | Opera/Google has that | Apr 30 17:17 |
| schestowitz | Bork bork bork.. | Apr 30 17:17 |
| trmanco | anivar, ok | Apr 30 17:18 |
| trmanco | I'll do that in a bit | Apr 30 17:18 |
| schestowitz | elive people have a new blog:http://www.elivecd.org/Main/News/... | Apr 30 17:24 |
| schestowitz | Am I totally wrong is is LikeWise former Softies who advance MS 'standards' and tax in *NIX? http://ostatic.com/blog/likewise-secur... | Apr 30 17:28 |
| schestowitz | Darren Waters. who promotes Microsoft a lot, is using MSBBC to advertise Microsoft http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss... | Apr 30 17:32 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR and other people would love this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/te... Should the US military become a Net aggressor? | Apr 30 17:36 |
| trmanco | anivar, thanks for the tips, btw | Apr 30 17:41 |
| schestowitz | OT: Jackass 2-Best moments < http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... > | Apr 30 17:43 |
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| schestowitz | non-Free software starts squeezing harder for some cash. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-... | Apr 30 18:22 |
| Balrog | Intel Faces $1.3B Fine In Europe | Apr 30 18:36 |
| Balrog | <http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=... | Apr 30 18:36 |
| schestowitz | Only 1.3? | Apr 30 18:37 |
| schestowitz | Embargo the criminals | Apr 30 18:37 |
| Balrog | you think it should be higher? | Apr 30 18:38 |
| schestowitz | A LOT | Apr 30 18:39 |
| schestowitz | You can't find a criminal that got rich by crime | Apr 30 18:39 |
| schestowitz | He'd need do to TIME | Apr 30 18:39 |
| schestowitz | I realise that Apple does Intel only, so... | Apr 30 18:39 |
| Balrog | they do ARM | Apr 30 18:39 |
| Balrog | in their mobile devices (iPod/iPhone) | Apr 30 18:39 |
| schestowitz | obviously | Apr 30 18:39 |
| Balrog | and they did drop Intel chipsets for nvidia ones (though I don't know if nvidia is any better) | Apr 30 18:40 |
| schestowitz | "Some legal experts speculate that Intel’s fine could reach about a billion euros, or $1.3 billion. Intel’s annual sales were $37.6 billion in 2008." | Apr 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz | Insult to justice | Apr 30 18:42 |
| Balrog | I see. :/ | Apr 30 18:42 |
| Balrog | what's their market cap? | Apr 30 18:42 |
| schestowitz | cant recall | Apr 30 18:48 |
| schestowitz | dp yahoo finance intc | Apr 30 18:48 |
| schestowitz | i'm eating | Apr 30 18:48 |
| schestowitz | PJ: "That's just crazy talk. Lots of westerners will buy one the very first day they are available, and then they'll return them saying Linux is not as good as Windows, not realizing it's not Linux that is to blame -- it's the quality, or lack thereof, of the product." | Apr 30 18:58 |
| schestowitz | " And I can imagine that Microsoft might then issue a statement that people don't want Linux on netbooks and Microsoft has captured 200% of the netbook market. Sigh. Now do you understand why Apple likes to protect its brand by limiting what hardware you can put OSX on?" | Apr 30 18:58 |
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| schestowitz | The Disney propaganda is taking over part of other media outlets: http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/04/... | Apr 30 19:16 |
| schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/... (Plan to monitor all internet use) We turn to some kind of fascistic state unless this plan is already crossed out | Apr 30 19:17 |
| trmanco | Can Google Android Save Motorola?: http://www.crn.com/mobile/217200972 | Apr 30 19:21 |
| trmanco | schestowitz, have you updated your system? :-P | Apr 30 19:24 |
| schestowitz | Why? | Apr 30 19:24 |
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| schestowitz | Mandriva? | Apr 30 19:25 |
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| trmanco | yes | Apr 30 19:28 |
| trmanco | Microsoft gives users Windows 7 free for 13 months: http://www.computerworld.com/action/articl... | Apr 30 19:29 |
| trmanco | "When asked why the company is giving users such a long free pass for the software, a spokeswoman declined to comment." | Apr 30 19:29 |
| trmanco | Rush for Windows 7 RC crashes MSDN, TechNet pages: http://www.itworld.com/windows/67267... | Apr 30 19:32 |
| schestowitz | wizpy has appeared in COLA | Apr 30 19:36 |
| schestowitz | They fake demand for Vista7 | Apr 30 19:37 |
| schestowitz | "Leaks" and server load | Apr 30 19:37 |
| trmanco | hmm, I haven't seen her around there yet | Apr 30 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Motorola ditches WIndows pretty much | Apr 30 19:38 |
| schestowitz | They are trouble for other reasons | Apr 30 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Oversized for their poor performance | Apr 30 19:38 |
| schestowitz | I reckoned you invited her or something. | Apr 30 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Took me by surprise | Apr 30 19:38 |
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| Balrog | of course there's demand for Win7, to see how it sucks ;) | Apr 30 19:50 |
| schestowitz | Where on earth is the European Commission on the OOXML crimes? | Apr 30 19:51 |
| schestowitz | I wonder... | Apr 30 19:51 |
| schestowitz | So ti's true they don't regulate | Apr 30 19:51 |
| schestowitz | I'm pissed off with fat cats and far regulators who don't care about rules | Apr 30 19:51 |
| trmanco | schestowitz, yeah, just saw one of her posts for the first time :-O | Apr 30 19:56 |
| trmanco | :-P* | Apr 30 19:56 |
| schestowitz | I'll make some posts | Apr 30 19:57 |
| schestowitz | It's funny that one can post calmnly | Apr 30 19:57 |
| schestowitz | With the facts, others can get furious | Apr 30 19:57 |
| schestowitz | Let em | Apr 30 19:57 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is committing many crimes that Find today | Apr 30 19:57 |
| schestowitz | Maybe I'll summarise them tomorrow | Apr 30 19:58 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft should be sent into space in a rocket | Apr 30 19:58 |
| schestowitz | In many way it's like MAFIAA and Bush | Apr 30 19:58 |
| schestowitz | Violent, aggressive, merciless offenders. | Apr 30 19:58 |
| schestowitz | Born with a silver spoon in their months | Apr 30 19:58 |
| trmanco | hehe | Apr 30 19:59 |
| schestowitz | Almost literally | Apr 30 19:59 |
| schestowitz | But anyway, the world is FULL of crime | Apr 30 20:00 |
| schestowitz | Documenting it is fun and valuable | Apr 30 20:00 |
| schestowitz | It's what newspaper are too afraid to do | Apr 30 20:00 |
| schestowitz | They must contact the accused and give the spin | Apr 30 20:00 |
| schestowitz | In many cases, the spin forces the story down due to accusation of libel threats and crooked editors. | Apr 30 20:01 |
| schestowitz | Blogs are to many like people owning their mills that they worked in, as oppose to wage slavery of a press that's run by the business community for its benefit | Apr 30 20:01 |
| _boo_ | http://www.oldandsold.com/books/s... | Apr 30 20:10 |
| Balrog | schestowitz: How to respond to this? | Apr 30 20:11 |
| Balrog | (hold on) | Apr 30 20:12 |
| Balrog | "With regard to my vote on the issue of CMS.... I never use prebuilt CMS systems such as Joomla, Drupal etc. Yes, for small sites they are handy.... and expedient way of getting a website live. However, there are issues with such systems that cannot and should certainly not be ignored. As commonly-used "open-source" systems, they are inherently open to exploits and disruption from those would have WAAAAY too much time to find them. Whilst they | Apr 30 20:13 |
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| Balrog | I don't get it how people feel that open source means less secure | Apr 30 20:17 |
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| schestowitz | Balrog: where is this FUD from? | Apr 30 20:18 |
| schestowitz | CMSs that are GPL-licensed often outpace the development of non-Free ones | Apr 30 20:18 |
| Balrog | this isn't anythign public, but rather a post on a group I'm a member of | Apr 30 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Large sites ditch the proprietary ones whose development is abandoned | Apr 30 20:19 |
| schestowitz | THey move to FOSS, which commoditised this whole market | Apr 30 20:19 |
| schestowitz | Balrog: tell him that WoMD too are " WAAAAY too much time to find them." | Apr 30 20:19 |
| Balrog | WoMD? | Apr 30 20:19 |
| schestowitz | People should not believe anything people Twit | Apr 30 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Balrog: example for myths | Apr 30 20:20 |
| schestowitz | or FUD | Apr 30 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Weapons of Mass Desruction | Apr 30 20:20 |
| schestowitz | "I heard this, I heard that" | Apr 30 20:20 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft et al circulate lots of stuff about Moodle, Apache, Linux, etc. | Apr 30 20:20 |
| schestowitz | _boo_: is there a one-paragraph version :0) | Apr 30 20:21 |
| Balrog | what was that site that just moved to wordpress? | Apr 30 20:22 |
| Balrog | itwire? | Apr 30 20:22 |
| Balrog | (the one where that 'Windows is just not engineered for security' was) | Apr 30 20:22 |
| schestowitz | InfoWorld | Apr 30 20:25 |
| schestowitz | It's just one example | Apr 30 20:25 |
| Balrog | any more? | Apr 30 20:25 |
| schestowitz | WordPress powers millions of sites | Apr 30 20:25 |
| schestowitz | Including some of the world's very top | Apr 30 20:25 |
| Balrog | what about drupal | Apr 30 20:25 |
| Balrog | ? | Apr 30 20:25 |
| schestowitz | Balrog: go to WordPress' Web site | Apr 30 20:25 |
| schestowitz | They have lists | Apr 30 20:25 |
| schestowitz | Drupal too | Apr 30 20:25 |
| schestowitz | EFF for example, but also some more massive ones | Apr 30 20:25 |
| schestowitz | http://buytaert.net/ | Apr 30 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Dries has been keeping track of some new adopters | Apr 30 20:26 |
| schestowitz | "Google to invest 90,000 USD in Drupal" I didn't notice that.. | Apr 30 20:27 |
| schestowitz | Google i like a husband who brings flower and then cheats with the next-door neighbour | Apr 30 20:28 |
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| DaemonFC | Vista SP2 Final is out | Apr 30 20:32 |
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| DaemonFC | heh, I'm just going to torrent Vista SP2 and run MD5 sum to match it to Microsoft's hash | Apr 30 20:56 |
| schestowitz | *yawn* (@vista) | Apr 30 20:56 |
| schestowitz | WHy do you keep track of that stuff? | Apr 30 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | *shrugs* | Apr 30 20:59 |
| neonfloss | how where your days? | Apr 30 21:06 |
| neonfloss | were* | Apr 30 21:06 |
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| DaemonFC | http://news.softpedia.com/n... | Apr 30 21:26 |
| neonfloss | I got a netbook practically for free... | Apr 30 21:31 |
| neonfloss | what should I run on it? | Apr 30 21:31 |
| Balrog | neonfloss: what kind? | Apr 30 21:32 |
| neonfloss | asus | Apr 30 21:32 |
| neonfloss | eee pc | Apr 30 21:32 |
| neonfloss | it came with a custom linux one... or I could use ubuntu netbok remix... or normal ubuntu.... | Apr 30 21:33 |
| neonfloss | or something else... | Apr 30 21:33 |
| Balrog | yeah ubuntu netbook remix would work well | Apr 30 21:37 |
| Balrog | just remove mono after you install is | Apr 30 21:37 |
| Balrog | it * | Apr 30 21:37 |
| Balrog | 'apt-get remove --purge libmono0 mono-common' | Apr 30 21:37 |
| Balrog | and if you want, install mononono | Apr 30 21:37 |
| Balrog | Mono is a waste of RAM / disk space on netbooks | Apr 30 21:38 |
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| trmanco | http://digg.com/d1q0Pz twitter is getting famous :-P | Apr 30 21:46 |
| trmanco | the real person | Apr 30 21:46 |
| schestowitz | Good. It deserves attention | Apr 30 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft starts playing dirty aagain | Apr 30 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Good. | Apr 30 21:48 |
| schestowitz | 1) it's nervous | Apr 30 21:48 |
| schestowitz | 2) it'll get caught | Apr 30 21:49 |
| schestowitz | 3) reputation for Microsoft down the drain and more antitrust complaints | Apr 30 21:49 |
| trmanco | http://gizmodo.com/5150284/... | Apr 30 21:50 |
| schestowitz | This one looks like an advert in disguise: http://www.youtube.com/watc... | Apr 30 21:51 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: is it not from February? | Apr 30 21:51 |
| trmanco | oops | Apr 30 21:52 |
| trmanco | somebody dugg this | Apr 30 21:52 |
| trmanco | and sent me a shout | Apr 30 21:52 |
| trmanco | I rarely look at dates | Apr 30 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Before the fraud was realised: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymOJT... :-S | Apr 30 21:55 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: I saw the log in another site some days ago | Apr 30 21:55 |
| schestowitz | It's being used indeed | Apr 30 21:55 |
| trmanco | what is? | Apr 30 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | YouTube search seems to be broken | Apr 30 22:00 |
| trmanco | schestowitz, you forgot to remove some [rival] tags from you posts :-P | Apr 30 22:07 |
| trmanco | oops -> [News] [Rival] Free/Open Source Success Stories in Business | Apr 30 22:07 |
| Balrog | "Forensics Tools Finds Headerless Encrypted Files" -- | Apr 30 22:08 |
| Balrog | http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/... | Apr 30 22:08 |
| Balrog | unfortunately (for them), it picks up /dev/urandom generated files as encrypted headerless | Apr 30 22:09 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: yes, I messed up and carried on without noticing | Apr 30 22:11 |
| schestowitz | It's so hard to use YouTuber without search | Apr 30 22:11 |
| schestowitz | *Tube | Apr 30 22:11 |
| trmanco | wow | Apr 30 22:12 |
| trmanco | it really is b0rk3d | Apr 30 22:12 |
| trmanco | never seen this happen | Apr 30 22:12 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/... | Apr 30 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | Will Oracle kill MySQL? Who cares? | Apr 30 22:16 |
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| schestowitz | I can't get to anything useful :-( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... ( Environmental Health : How to Cut Household Water Usage ) | Apr 30 22:19 |
| schestowitz | Boring... YouTUbe search is broken | Apr 30 22:19 |
| schestowitz | Oracle doesn't own mysql | Apr 30 22:20 |
| schestowitz | It owns the trademark | Apr 30 22:20 |
| schestowitz | Maybe copyrights, but it can still be copied over | Apr 30 22:20 |
| schestowitz | Maybe GPLv3 this time | Apr 30 22:20 |
| schestowitz | Better yet, AGPLv3 | Apr 30 22:20 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.kuro5hin.org/sto... | Apr 30 22:21 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it's YouTUbe maintenance.. http://www.youtube.com/watch... | Apr 30 22:25 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=... Gordon's EU Nightmare | Apr 30 22:36 |
| schestowitz | ritish politics at its best http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmHt... | Apr 30 22:37 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngPnzH... | Apr 30 22:39 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft netbook kickbacks: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/04/... | Apr 30 23:29 |
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| *DaemonFC hates standalone Service Pack installers | Apr 30 23:53 | |
| schestowitz | Activists have their computers intruded by predatory multinationals: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/04/... | Apr 30 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | for some reason Microsoft decided to delay the release of SP2 for a couple months | Apr 30 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | even though it's finished | Apr 30 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | due to stupidity on the part of Apple and a couple Antivirus companies | Apr 30 23:54 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: see the latest posts on Vista 7: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/04/... The fiasco is only just brewing. | Apr 30 23:54 |
| *schestowitz never installed a Service Pack, EVER | Apr 30 23:54 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I posted on Mandriva 2009.1 | Apr 30 23:54 |
| schestowitz | URL? | Apr 30 23:55 |
| MinceR | gn | Apr 30 23:55 |
| schestowitz | nn | Apr 30 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | comparing a few features of Vista and OS X (if you can believe it) that Mandriva has finally done right | Apr 30 23:55 |
| schestowitz | I'll do a couple more posts | Apr 30 23:55 |
| schestowitz | It's fun | Apr 30 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | where other distros have gone horribly wrong | Apr 30 23:55 |
| schestowitz | MS gives lots of dirt for others to use against it | Apr 30 23:55 |
| schestowitz | Mandriva is what I use like 95% of the time now | Apr 30 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | http://izanbardprince.wordpress.com/2009/04... | Apr 30 23:55 |
| DaemonFC | The two bits that impressed the hell out of me were amazingly fast boot time and the improvements to the audio stack | Apr 30 23:56 |
| schestowitz | Good title | Apr 30 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | both of which Ubuntu needs a lot of work on | Apr 30 23:56 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: audio stack is good in 2008.1 | Apr 30 23:56 |
| schestowitz | I had problems with the stack in SuSE 8.1 | Apr 30 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | nah, I ran into a lot of bugs on everything else | Apr 30 23:56 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora 10 was the only Pulseaudio implementation I could use and even that has bugs | Apr 30 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure Fedora 11 and Ubuntu 9.10 will be much better about that | Apr 30 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | Mandriva just got there first | Apr 30 23:57 |
| *tessier also has never installed a service pack | Apr 30 23:58 | |
| tessier | I wouldn't even know where to go to get one | Apr 30 23:58 |
| schestowitz | I think it's automatic | Apr 30 23:58 |
| schestowitz | Maybe some popups | Apr 30 23:58 |
| schestowitz | I remember back in 2002 when a friend met me at work and said he needed service pack | Apr 30 23:59 |
| schestowitz | I hardly knew what he was talking about | Apr 30 23:59 |
| DaemonFC | well, I prefer to get them over Windows Update, because it only grabs the files you need | Apr 30 23:59 |
| DaemonFC | the standalone includes every update since SP1 | Apr 30 23:59 |
