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T 1610755628 18<29schestowitz>optimised for ratings and ads
T 1610755630 18<29schestowitz>(and agenda)
T 1610755645 18<29schestowitz>they also make caricatures of people
T 1610755647 18<29schestowitz>as foes Fox
T 1610755663 18<29schestowitz>to distract from the severity of the social divide
T 1610755677 18<29schestowitz>a lot of them are like your parebts, DaemonFC[m]
T 1610755681 18<19DaemonFC[m]>schestowitz: Yes, "Betty" sat in her house alone and watching CNN, Fox, and the 700 Club all day.
T 1610755689 18<29schestowitz>misguided, bigoted, desperate
T 1610755691 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Convinced that the world would end several times.
T 1610755696 18<29schestowitz>media calling them names won't help
T 1610755700 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Hoarding the aforementioned food that went bad.
T 1610755711 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Fortunately it did some good. Gonad broke his toe on it.
T 1610755715 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Good for Betty!
T 1610755720 18<29schestowitz>lol
T 1610755736 18<29schestowitz>he kicked the bucket
T 1610755740 18<29schestowitz>first literally
T 1610755744 18<29schestowitz>then metaphorically
T 1610755755 18<29schestowitz>or kicked the can
T 1610755761 18<19DaemonFC[m]>All you need to do if you want someone dead is wait long enough. It'll happen.
T 1610755762 18<29schestowitz>of canned veg
T 1610755771 18<29schestowitz>yes, well...
T 1610755777 18<29schestowitz>if you want to piss someone off
T 1610755781 18<29schestowitz>and that someone is a lot older
T 1610755784 18<29schestowitz>there's a recipe
T 1610755787 18<29schestowitz>my dad taught me this
T 1610755791 18<29techrights-ipfs> ▕ IPFS downstream, 45 mins: ▃▂▂▃▃▁▂▂▂▃▄▃▂▄▃▃▂▅▃▄▂▃▃▄▅▂▅▃▂▃▂▅▂▂▅▃▂▃▅▆▃▄▂▃▅▅▂▃▂▅ ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▄▂▁▂▃▂▃▂▃▂▃▃▄▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▃▄▃▂▂▃▂▃▂▁▂▄▃▂▂▄▁▁▁▃▃▂▃▂▁▂▁ ⟲
T 1610755796 18<29schestowitz>when MS Jack fought with me online
T 1610755808 18<29schestowitz>Remind them they don't have much time left
T 1610755817 18<29schestowitz>DaemonFC[m]: as you and I are in our 30s
T 1610755827 18<29schestowitz>and these people are in their 60s and 70s
T 1610755830 18<29schestowitz>he told me
T 1610755834 18<29schestowitz>make it seem polite
T 1610755838 18<19DaemonFC[m]>It's a sign of just how shitty things are right now.
T 1610755843 18<29schestowitz>but squeeze a little
T 1610755853 18<19DaemonFC[m]>These mall companies and restaurants are now offering 20-30% rebates if you buy their gift cards.
T 1610755865 18<29schestowitz>"i don't want to argue with you, I realise you're a lot older so I don't want to hurt your feelings
T 1610755870 18<29schestowitz>then they go BALLISTIC
T 1610755870 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Dicey investment given that they are teetering on bankruptcy and gift cards make you an unsecured creditor.
T 1610755900 18<29schestowitz>you get discount for the risk
T 1610755912 18<29schestowitz>the possibility those cards are just worthless currency
T 1610755915 18<29schestowitz>pieces of paper
T 1610755920 18<29schestowitz>that nobody will honour
T 1610755924 18<29schestowitz>but it's no joke
T 1610755934 18<29schestowitz>people will get aggressive or kill themselves
T 1610755935 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Oh I know, my grandmother was in her 70s. You'd think of all people she could calm down and enjoy her pension checks and Social Security and do some gardening.
T 1610755961 18<19DaemonFC[m]>In the house, constant doom gloom and boom from those idiots, and even if it was true, she had less time left to suffer under it than I do.
T 1610755972 18<29schestowitz>case of point is, many of those oligarchs don't have much left to live
T 1610755979 18<29schestowitz>Trump's doctor has just died
T 1610755988 18<19DaemonFC[m]>She's bordering 90 now and in the nursing home and none of that constant panic did her any good, did it?
T 1610755995 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Just threw away the rest of her life.
T 1610756022 18<29schestowitz>https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/14/nyregion/harold-bornstein-dead.html
T 1610756023 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.nytimes.com | Harold N. Bornstein, Trump’s Former Personal Physician, Dies at 73 - The New York Times
T 1610756026 18<29schestowitz>Trump is next
T 1610756030 18<29schestowitz>his brother died last year
T 1610756052 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Yep, the deplorables are dropping like flies.
T 1610756057 18<28CrystalMath>i'm in my 20s and i'm also against the US democrats
T 1610756063 18<28CrystalMath>i support the US libertarian party
T 1610756077 18<28CrystalMath>(from outside the US, as much as i can)
T 1610756077 18<19DaemonFC[m]>So far we did lose a covetous Jew though, a real one.
T 1610756092 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Sheldon Adelson
T 1610756094 18<29schestowitz>Adelson?
T 1610756099 18<29schestowitz>yeah, beat me to it
T 1610756102 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Yep yep.
T 1610756104 18<29schestowitz>Nobody will miss him
T 1610756110 18<29schestowitz>his casinos will rot away
T 1610756114 18<29schestowitz>they cannot operate legally
T 1610756124 18<29schestowitz>and people won't do that crap (or craps) over the Net
T 1610756143 18<29schestowitz>nobody to show off to, the posing doesn't work when you sit there on a chair at home
T 1610756149 18<28CrystalMath>nothing wrong with casinos
T 1610756168 18<28CrystalMath>over here casinos are freaking everywhere, and the only non-essential businesses that were open every second of 2020
T 1610756171 18<29schestowitz>the biggest casino is still "in business"
T 1610756175 18<29schestowitz>wall street
T 1610756198 18<28CrystalMath>casinos are essential
T 1610756212 18<29schestowitz>for covid
T 1610756220 18<28CrystalMath>:P
T 1610756223 18<29schestowitz>people touching cards and handles
T 1610756232 18<29schestowitz>and for what? a game?
T 1610756243 18<19DaemonFC[m]>schestowitz: Mandy asked why there was pepper spray on the counter.
T 1610756250 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I told him I had to go into the courthouse to vote.
T 1610756261 18<19DaemonFC[m]>He asks didn't we just have an election.
T 1610756280 18<29schestowitz>local
T 1610756284 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I told him yes, and this is so stupid, but we have to do the local ones on odd years just a few months later.
T 1610756295 18<29schestowitz>I wonder how we'll vote this year for the Council
T 1610756309 18<29schestowitz>different things
T 1610756316 18<29schestowitz>fire services, police, roadwork
T 1610756325 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I voted to throw out Mr. Sexual Harassment ICE Collaborator (Sam Cunningham).
T 1610756335 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Replace him with a big block Mexican guy.
T 1610756341 18<28CrystalMath>but in general i support casinos
T 1610756344 18<29schestowitz>seems Manchester does better now against COVID spread
T 1610756345 18<28CrystalMath>like, the idea
T 1610756351 18<29schestowitz>one in 200 has it
T 1610756356 18<29schestowitz>based on testing anyway
T 1610756362 18<29schestowitz>sans extrapolation
T 1610756375 18<29schestowitz>so those would be the ones showing symptoms, I guess
T 1610756399 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Even if the sexual harassment allegation is untrue, the ICE collaboration was confirmed, and when it was made public he had the cop that was in charge of that resign.
T 1610756411 18<29schestowitz>we're in no rush to get tested, which is safer and likely more effective than the 'vaccine'
T 1610756418 18<29schestowitz>I reckon we don't have it
T 1610756426 18<29schestowitz>and not the antibodies either
T 1610756431 18<29schestowitz>i.e. did not have it before
T 1610756431 18<19DaemonFC[m]>But........As mayor, he's responsible for the police department. They couldn't have made that decision on their own. And it's not even legal to work with ICE here.
T 1610756442 18<29schestowitz>it'll get harder to avoid it over time
T 1610756458 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Yes, because it's turned into an avalanche.
T 1610756471 18<29schestowitz>quadratic growth
T 1610756475 18<29schestowitz>worse than in March
T 1610756485 18<19DaemonFC[m]>With 10 million new cases this month and 16 million next month and 25 million the month later.
T 1610756490 18<29schestowitz>you can tell by the piles of death people
T 1610756495 18<29schestowitz>we broke the record this month
T 1610756511 18<19DaemonFC[m]>It took us 9 months to get to 20 million I think.
T 1610756530 18<29schestowitz>we're at over 3 milion now
T 1610756530 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Then there will be 40 million by the end of this month.
T 1610756548 18<29schestowitz>that's about as many as receive Dose One (TM) from Viagra Company(TM)
T 1610756560 18<19DaemonFC[m]>So it only takes 2 months to do what the past 9 months total did, and if you think the hospitals are full now, guess what it'll look like at the end of next month.
T 1610756570 18<29schestowitz>so covid spreads faster, on average, than the jabs
T 1610756575 18<29schestowitz>outpacing the clinical trials
T 1610756589 18<19DaemonFC[m]>But thanks to USCIS, we have to go to Chicago in the middle of this and have Immigration go over our bank records and wedding pictures and ask us what brand of toothpaste we use.
T 1610756590 18<29schestowitz>which have yet to prove any positive effect, or significant effecr
T 1610756623 18<29schestowitz>DaemonFC[m]: that overlooks the greater issue
T 1610756626 18<29schestowitz>not how many are ful
T 1610756626 18<19DaemonFC[m]>schestowitz: It'll probably be like the trustee thing at the bk court.
T 1610756632 18<29schestowitz>but the TYPES of patients
T 1610756636 18<29schestowitz>they turn away many people
T 1610756639 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Mom is right about this stuff at least. It's stupid, but just play the game.
T 1610756648 18<29schestowitz>even those who need screenings, bed, nurse oversight
T 1610756678 18<19DaemonFC[m]>They've had COVID in the facility where she works a few times but by dumb luck, no major outbreak.
T 1610756699 18<29schestowitz>maybe because they prayed
T 1610756699 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Most nursing homes in Indiana where it gets in, that's in man. Game over man. Game over!
T 1610756719 18<19DaemonFC[m]>But these idiots who run the facility just let all these other idiots that work there walk around with their masks under their noses.
T 1610756725 18<19DaemonFC[m]>And are yet to be overrun.
T 1610756739 18<29schestowitz>they can bring it in from home
T 1610756741 18<29schestowitz>spouse
T 1610756750 18<29schestowitz>unless they sleep in the facilities
T 1610756778 18<29schestowitz>A BN engineer ('open' reach) was here yesterday
T 1610756783 18<19DaemonFC[m]>They don't. The administrator and her husband were laughing about not wearing their masks.
T 1610756785 18<29schestowitz>their protocols ae strict
T 1610756793 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Then they both got diagnosed with it and had to go into quarantine.
T 1610756794 18<29schestowitz>I talk to him from another room
T 1610756803 18<29schestowitz>window wide open, zero degrees outside
T 1610756813 18<29schestowitz>mask on, hoodie
T 1610756816 18<29schestowitz>he has ppe
T 1610756855 18<19DaemonFC[m]>What I'm saying is that there's a lot of dumb trash out there who have nursing licenses and blow this off as some sort of a joke at least on their own time.
T 1610756869 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Then they bring it into the nursing home they work at because of that and kill 20-30 old people.
T 1610756903 18<28techrights-bot>Ash Farrow keeps banning people whose politics he does not agree with. And this is what happens... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNTZNglGLZM
T 1610756903 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06DistroToot Is Now Accepting New Members - YouTube
T 1610756936 18<19DaemonFC[m]>schestowitz: I know the masks aren't perfect for the wearer.
T 1610756943 18<19DaemonFC[m]>They don't have to be if everyone wears them.
T 1610756948 18<29schestowitz>I got used to them
T 1610756957 18<29schestowitz>the skin and the nerves get accustomed
T 1610757008 18<29schestowitz>the door-to-door engineers are a potential vector
T 1610757015 18<29schestowitz>but were were first on his route, 8am
T 1610757021 18<29schestowitz>so first home he'd enter
T 1610757021 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I wear the cloth ones and just wash them in detergent, hot water, and in that hand crank machine I have in the kitchen.
T 1610757035 18<29schestowitz>that's what we do too
T 1610757042 18<29schestowitz>rianne is next in line to buy food
T 1610757046 18<29schestowitz>I did twice in a row
T 1610757072 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I do it every day now. I bought my own spray for the cart handles.
T 1610757101 18<29schestowitz>since covid lockdowns started we've managed to get the same foods for even lower prices
T 1610757118 18<19DaemonFC[m]>The guy at Walmart actually yelled at me for doing that the other day. Said they already did. I told him, "What's it to you? If that guy did a fantastic job just come over here and touch it yourself. No?".
T 1610757134 18<29schestowitz>since I don't like travelling much anyway, it doesn't bother me in any way except maybe using sauna facilities and such stuff
T 1610757143 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Like, he's a door greeter yelling at me for moving out of the way and spraying a cart handle with stuff I paid for.
T 1610757174 18<29schestowitz>weird
T 1610757186 18<29schestowitz>my dad does the same
T 1610757200 18<29schestowitz>and memorises where it was sanitised
T 1610757211 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Yeah, it's not an overreaction of any kind from the numbers I'm seeing here each day.
T 1610757216 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I go over the entire handle.
T 1610757226 18<29schestowitz>my skin is better off now, I barely ever touch it
T 1610757255 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Then I use sanitizer on the way out (from the store's bottle). Then put the groceries in the car and more sanitizer (mine) including under my nails and stuff, before I drive off.
T 1610757265 18<29schestowitz>DaemonFC[m]: the problem is when you pick an item and then touch the handle
T 1610757278 18<29schestowitz>so mask on, never touch face, no open wounds either
T 1610757290 18<29schestowitz>and distance from people who... well, breathe
T 1610757305 18<29schestowitz>even then we wash all the items one by one
T 1610757309 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Some of the employees there slip their masks off I've noticed.
T 1610757315 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Or touch their mask then their face.
T 1610757321 18<29schestowitz>because we cannot leave cold items to quarantine for 3 days, they'd spoil
T 1610757365 18<28techrights-bot>Junichi Uekawa: It's been 20 years since I became a Debian Developer. http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/diary/daily/2021-Jan-16.html.en#2021-Jan-16-09:22:29 #debian #gnu #linux #jp #japan
T 1610757366 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.netfort.gr.jp | It's been 20 years since I became a Debian Developer.
T 1610757431 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Yes, the mask does remind you not to touch your face.
T 1610757452 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I also wear glasses, so puts something in the way of rubbing my eyes.
T 1610757454 18<28techrights-bot>Sean Michael Kerner: #ScyllaDB #NoSQL #database to improve with Project Circe https://searchdatamanagement.techtarget.com/news/252494913/ScyllaDB-NoSQL-database-to-improve-with-Project-Circe
T 1610757455 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606searchdatamanagement.techtarget.com | ScyllaDB NoSQL database to improve with Project Circe
T 1610757493 18<29schestowitz>or people sneezing into them
T 1610757502 18<29schestowitz>protective plastic glasses can help
T 1610757511 18<29schestowitz>I have those sport ones, just protective ones
T 1610757517 18<29schestowitz>didn't think of using them as ppe
T 1610757527 18<29schestowitz>but I suppose that might enhance protection
T 1610757543 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Yeah, I sneeze in the masks all the time.
T 1610757551 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Have to soak them a while to get that out. :P
T 1610757652 18<28CrystalMath>DaemonFC[m]: even if you touch your face, you can't infect others easily when you have a mask on
T 1610757659 18<28techrights-bot>#corporateMedia has made #clinicalTrials and "vaccine" synonyms. This is wrong. This is a cause for concern. It's worse than what #russia does at the moment.
T 1610757663 18<28CrystalMath>i similarly don't care about myself being infected
T 1610757674 18<28CrystalMath>i'm 100% certain that i will not mind the outcome if i get covid
T 1610757680 18<28CrystalMath>(because i wouldn't mind dying either)
T 1610757699 18<28CrystalMath>whatever happens, happens, i trust nature's decision, even if it means removing me
T 1610757717 18<29schestowitz>collective responsibility
T 1610757731 18<28CrystalMath>i do care about not infecting others
T 1610757736 18<28MinceR>you wouldn't mind a lifetime of suffering either?
T 1610757738 18<28CrystalMath>which is where the mask works
T 1610757741 18<29schestowitz>that's a problem... for them
T 1610757759 18<28CrystalMath>MinceR: from the looks of it, that's always guaranteed
T 1610757785 18<29schestowitz>the future is bright
T 1610757789 18<29schestowitz>we have old Nokia bricks
T 1610757803 18<28CrystalMath>umm, have you been paying attention to your own news?
T 1610757807 18<28MinceR>CrystalMath: i mean an extra layer of suffering for the rest of your life
T 1610757816 18<28MinceR>something like greatly reduced lung capacity
T 1610757831 18<28CrystalMath>MinceR: i have a liter to spare that i'm not using
T 1610757837 18<29schestowitz>lol
T 1610757849 18<29schestowitz>give me yo' kidney!
T 1610757855 18<29schestowitz>you don't use that one anyway!
T 1610757856 18<28MinceR>maybe COVID-19 will take more than that
T 1610757882 18<28CrystalMath>well you see, last february i met someone who lived in wuhan and after that i got this strange flu
T 1610757886 18<29schestowitz>my colleague is in hopital with covid emergency and he's my age
T 1610757887 18<29schestowitz>30s
T 1610757895 18<29schestowitz>daniel...
T 1610757899 18<28CrystalMath>and i feel like i do have a somewhat reduced lung capacity
T 1610757902 18<28CrystalMath>but not a lot
T 1610757911 18<29schestowitz>it's very serious, but they got him stabilised last night
T 1610757952 18<29schestowitz>I think I might go for the record now and stay home for more than 3 weeks, until things reopen...
T 1610757979 18<28CrystalMath>i still haven't been able to beat my 2019 record
T 1610757982 18<28CrystalMath>of staying at home
T 1610757989 18<28CrystalMath>depression > covid :P
T 1610757993 18<28MinceR>:>
T 1610758003 18<29schestowitz>years ago I managed to stay in the same flood for 3 days, iirc
T 1610758009 18<29schestowitz>*floor
T 1610758023 18<29schestowitz>but I don't cook much :-)
T 1610758043 18<28CrystalMath>do you live in one of those terraced houses?
T 1610758048 18<29schestowitz>yes
T 1610758056 18<28CrystalMath>i see
T 1610758344 18<28techrights-bot>Linux Coming to Apple M1 Macs New Ubuntu Members Manjaro 20.2 Nibia Out BlackArch 2020.12.1 Out Nitrux 1.3.5 Out KDE Plasma 5.20.4 Out Cinnamon 4.8 Out OpenZFS 2.0 Out Linux Kernel 5.10 rc6 Out Sys…
T 1610758438 18<29schestowitz>Dirk Eddelbuettel: #Rcpp 1.0.6: Some Updates http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2021/01/15#rcpp_1.0.6
T 1610758439 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606dirk.eddelbuettel.com | Thinking inside the box
T 1610758582 18<28CrystalMath>i'll likely be leaving linux soon
T 1610758589 18<28CrystalMath>not sure if this year
T 1610758595 18<28CrystalMath>but i am planning to leave linux in favor of NetBSD
T 1610758666 18<28MinceR>i have a similar plan, though i haven't picked the BSD that is right for me yet
T 1610758683 18<19DaemonFC[m]>The GPU on the M1 is really weird.
T 1610758728 18<19DaemonFC[m]>But it's Apple so you expect it to be overdesigned I guess.
T 1610758781 18<28MinceR>well, i expect it to be a particularly weak model from nvidia, amd or intel, with next to no support
T 1610758793 18<28MinceR>advertised as the second coming, of course
T 1610758800 18<26psydroid>I have OpenBSD installed on a few machines here
T 1610758802 18<19DaemonFC[m]>It's not. I hear it's possibly derived from a PowerVR model.
T 1610758810 18<28MinceR>ooh, powervr
T 1610758824 18<28MinceR>they've managed to find a supplier even shittier than the three i've listed
T 1610758831 18<28MinceR>i shouldn't be surprised, it is after all crApple
T 1610758858 18<28MinceR>does crapOS use it in vesa compatibility mode?
T 1610758920 18<28MinceR>maybe they could add an LED saying "please wait, we're sure we'll finish drawing this window today... or tomorrow, tops)
T 1610758923 18<28MinceR>s/.$/"/
T 1610758986 18<28techrights-bot>Celebrating the FSF’s 35th anniversary: Stories from the Licensing and Compliance Lab • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146540 •●• #GNU #FSF
T 1610758988 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Celebrating the FSF’s 35th anniversary: Stories from the Licensing and Compliance Lab | Tux Machines
T 1610759030 18<19DaemonFC[m]>They're getting rid of that ridiculous "touch bar" from the next Macbook.
T 1610759094 18<19DaemonFC[m]>This is what you get with companies like that. They don't ask anyone or do any research. They just add random things that get in the way, and then everyone who does use it gets it taken away a year or three later.
T 1610759171 18<29schestowitz>ribbon
T 1610759187 18<29schestowitz>they do 'clinical trials' on their users
T 1610759195 18<29schestowitz>and then withdraw
T 1610759329 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Remember how Ribbon was supposed to be revolutionary and great to use and now there's just vestiges of it here and there in things they haven't redone lately.
T 1610759356 18<19DaemonFC[m]>The File Explorer looks really out of place.
T 1610759391 18<29techrights-ipfs> ▕ IPFS downstream, 45 mins: ▃▂▅▂▃▅▂▄▅▄▃▂▂▃▃▅▃▂▃▂▃▃▄▂▂▄▁▂▅▅▆▃▃█▄▂▂▂▅▄▂▅▂▃▃▂▁▂▁▂▄ ▕ IPFS upstream: ▃▄▂▂▃▃▄▂▃▂▁▁▃▃▂▃▂▃▂▂▃▂▁▂▂▂▂▃▂▁▂▃▂▃▃▂▂▃▂▃▁▂▃▂▃▃▂▃▂▁▁▂▂▁▂ ⟲
T 1610759647 18<19DaemonFC[m]> Windows 10 Creators Update and later versions come with a new Universal File Explorer (also known as the UWP File Explorer). Although hidden, it can be opened by creating a shortcut pointing to "explorer shell:AppsFolder\c5e2524a-ea46-4f67-841f-6a9465d9d515_cw5n1h2txyewy!App" [36][37]
T 1610759649 18<19DaemonFC[m]>LOL
T 1610759659 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Very useful. A hidden file manager.
T 1610759690 18<19DaemonFC[m]>They must be getting ready to give the old Windows Explorer the boot.
T 1610760196 18<28MinceR>isn't uwp on the way out already?
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T 1610760595 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Maybe
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T 1610761299 18<19DaemonFC[m]>https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/15/business/nra-bankruptcy-new-york-texas/index.html
T 1610761299 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06NRA files for bankruptcy - CNN
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T 1610779318 31<kingoffrance>30"explorer shell:AppsFolder\c5e2524a-ea46-4f67-841f-6a9465d9d515_cw5n1h2txyewy!App" what do you mean hidden, thats totally user friendly intuitive
T 1610779325 31<kingoffrance>30i type that all the time, its a common phrase
T 1610779424 31<kingoffrance>30compared to "ls" who knows what that stands for?
T 1610780439 21<schestowitz>21kingoffrance: hex even
T 1610780455 18<29schestowitz>memorise THAT, son
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T 1610788762 18<28techrights-bot>Create Bootable USB Using #Etcher in Linux – Download and Usage Guide • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146542 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1610788763 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Create Bootable USB Using Etcher in Linux – Download and Usage Guide | Tux Machines
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T 1610789015 18<28techrights-bot>#HowTo use KDE’s productivity suite, #Kontact • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146541 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/16/#latest
T 1610789015 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | How to use KDE's productivity suite, Kontact | Tux Machines
T 1610789015 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
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T 1610790986 18<28techrights-bot>#UPC is dead and #patent boosters are unhappy https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS143603/Constitutional-Complaints-In-Germany-Cast-Doubt-Over-Fate-Of-UPC
T 1610790987 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28- ( status 403 @ https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS143603/Constitutional-Complaints-In-Germany-Cast-Doubt-Over-Fate-Of-UPC )
T 1610791064 18<28techrights-bot>The Greens in the 2020 #Elections and Beyond https://howiehawkins.us/the-greens-in-the-2020-elections-and-beyond/ #election #greenparty
T 1610791064 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606howiehawkins.us | The Greens in the 2020 Elections and Beyond | Howie Hawkins for President | Angela Walker for Vice President
T 1610791201 18<28techrights-bot>FOSS Patents: #Samsung appeals #Ericsson 's anti-antisuit injunction from #Texas to the #FederalCircuit ⇨ http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/01/samsung-appeals-ericssons-anti-antisuit.html •●• @fosspatents
T 1610791202 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Samsung appeals Ericsson's anti-antisuit injunction from Texas to the Federal Circuit
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T 1610794539 18<28techrights-bot>Today in #Techrights • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146543 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/16/#latest
T 1610794540 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
T 1610795309 18<29liberty_box>https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1384409/ice-cream-reportedly-tests-positive-for-covid-19
T 1610795310 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606newsinfo.inquirer.net | Ice cream reportedly 'tests positive' for COVID-19 | Inquirer News
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T 1610796212 18<28techrights-bot>"After years of making pro-Trump comments [...] I was shocked by the absurd positions he took on SARS-CoV-2 last year--even by utterances that weren't nearly as crazy as suggesting that one might inject disinfectants." http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/01/best-outcome-of-impeachment-for.html
T 1610796213 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Best outcome of impeachment for development of law: Supreme Court clarifies meaning of "high" in "high crimes and misdemeanors"
T 1610796380 18<28techrights-bot>he Developer eXperience (DX) team at #Intel seems to be full of #Microsoft drones instead of developers and/or mildly technical people http://techrights.org/2021/01/16/intel-developer-inexperience/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
T 1610796381 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | InteLeaks – Part XVI: Intel Cannot Do Command Line, Even When It’s Vastly Simpler and More Suitable for Development | Techrights
T 1610796381 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights
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T 1610796504 18<28techrights-bot>Wine 6.0 Released, How to Install it in #Ubuntu 20.04, 20.10 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146470#comment-27826 #gnu #linux
T 1610796504 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 6.0 Officially Released with Vulkan Backend for WineD3D, This Is What’s New | Tux Machines
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T 1610796696 18<28techrights-bot>4 Best Alternatives to #WhatsApp that Actually Respect Your #Privacy - Make Tech Easier ⇨ https://www.maketecheasier.com/alternatives-to-whatsapp/
T 1610796696 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.maketecheasier.com | 4 Best Alternatives to WhatsApp that Actually Respect Your Privacy - Make Tech Easier
T 1610797019 18<28techrights-bot>his week in #KDE : text reflow in Konsole! • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146545 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/16/#latest
T 1610797019 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | his week in KDE: text reflow in Konsole! | Tux Machines
T 1610797207 18<28techrights-bot>#LibreOffice 7.1 Release Candidate Ready for Testing Ahead of the Early February Release • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146544 #freesw #opendocument
T 1610797207 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 7.1 Release Candidate Ready for Testing Ahead of the Early February Release | Tux Machines
T 1610798676 18<29Ariadne>text reflow in konsole wtf
T 1610798685 18<29Ariadne>i don't want text reflow in a terminal emulator
T 1610798713 18<29schestowitz>I thought the same, Ariadne
T 1610798729 18<29schestowitz>I like konsole nonetheless
T 1610798734 18<29schestowitz>I use no other terminal anymore
T 1610798747 18<29schestowitz>it has some nice features in it, like alerts with regex on actions
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T 1610799149 18<29schestowitz>Pocock:
T 1610799151 18<29schestowitz>> Thanks for the coverage of this issue, I have a collection of threats
T 1610799152 18<29schestowitz>> here now and I'm thinking about publishing the whole lot.
T 1610799154 18<29schestowitz>>
T 1610799155 18<29schestowitz>> Technically the photo was published by the Debian Community News Team,
T 1610799157 18<29schestowitz>> would you consider tweaking your post to use that name?
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T 1610799289 18<29schestowitz>"the photo [which led to a copyright-centric SLAPP action] was published by the Debian Community News Team,
T 1610799291 18<29schestowitz>> would you consider tweaking your post to use that name?
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T 1610799366 18<29vZS1_2>Looks like yesterday was a busy day in IRC.
T 1610799374 18<29vZS1_2>Log files are longer than usual
T 1610799386 18<29Ariadne>i think you should be careful about factchecking what pocock puts out there
T 1610799390 18<29Ariadne>some of it is true, some of it is not
T 1610799477 18<29Ariadne>i feel like to some extent he is using you as a useful sockpuppet
T 1610799479 18<29schestowitz>Ariadne: I know..
T 1610799482 18<29schestowitz>I mean
T 1610799484 18<29schestowitz>the first past
T 1610799489 18<29schestowitz>[12:21] <Ariadne> i think you should be careful about factchecking what pocock puts out there
T 1610799497 18<29schestowitz>the "I know" refers to this
T 1610799511 18<29schestowitz>he's not "syuing me"
T 1610799518 18<29schestowitz>he's not the one reaching out to me
T 1610799524 18<29Ariadne>i know he's not suing you
T 1610799525 18<29schestowitz>I just see what is being put out there
T 1610799532 18<29schestowitz>many posts I never reproduced
T 1610799535 18<29schestowitz>or only partly
T 1610799542 18<29schestowitz>what seemed to match up against facts
T 1610799551 18<29schestowitz>*using
T 1610799554 18<29schestowitz>not suing
T 1610799562 18<29schestowitz>some people threaten to sue him
T 1610799574 18<29schestowitz>not because they would, they just try hard to silence him
T 1610799584 18<29schestowitz>as he stifles their agenda, which is not community-centric
T 1610799597 18<29schestowitz>I'll put out an articles shortly, part of a series
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T 1610799630 18<29vZS1_2>Pocock is a good example of what happens when you have "SJWs" hijack control of a project and then get them to do your dirty work.
T 1610799643 18<29Ariadne>is it?
T 1610799665 18<29vZS1_2>They kick the technical people out, in general.
T 1610799676 18<29vZS1_2>People that can call out the BS
T 1610799693 18<29vZS1_2>And who damped the marketing
T 1610799730 18<29Ariadne>"SJW" these days is a catch-all boogeyman term largely utilized by the alt-right
T 1610799753 18<29vZS1_2>I used it in the derogatory sense
T 1610799760 18<29Ariadne>yes, the alt-right sense
T 1610799773 18<29vZS1_2>I don't have to be alt-right to use a word a certain way
T 1610799786 18<29vZS1_2>That's absurd
T 1610799797 18<29Ariadne>sure. i am just letting you know who primarily uses that term in the same context as you.
T 1610799849 18<29vZS1_2>And if some alt-right people make the same observation, good for them.
T 1610799865 18<29Ariadne>a better, and more accurate term, is "concern troll"
T 1610799876 18<29vZS1_2>That works too
T 1610799912 18<29Ariadne>using accurate terms is important, as referring to concern trolls as "SJWs" undermines people who are doing important social justice work (including work on free software)
T 1610799923 18<29vZS1_2>An SJW doesn't care about social justice
T 1610799927 18<29vZS1_2>It's satire
T 1610799942 18<29Ariadne>of course not, but the average person assumes they do
T 1610799977 18<29Ariadne>anyway, the Pocock situation is not Pocock vs SJWs
T 1610799984 18<29vZS1_2>It certainly is
T 1610799997 18<29Ariadne>it really isn't. i know many of the people involved. none of them are SJWs
T 1610800002 18<29vZS1_2>Sure
T 1610800087 18<29Ariadne>i think accurately describing the Pocock situation is also important, as "Pocock vs SJWs" does not accurately describe the legitimate concerns
T 1610800111 18<29Ariadne>which is that Pocock saw internal FSFE data he was not supposed to be aware of, and as a result FSFE tries to discredit him
T 1610800137 18<29Ariadne>Pocock however has responded suboptimally to that campaign which has allowed the people attempting to discredit him more success.
T 1610800203 18<29Ariadne>i think this is largely because he responds emotionally rather than tactically.
T 1610800244 18<29schestowitz>[12:26] <vZS1_2> They kick the technical people out, in general.
T 1610800246 18<29schestowitz>this is true
T 1610800249 18<29schestowitz>happens at OSI right now
T 1610800252 18<29schestowitz>at warp speed
T 1610800258 18<29Ariadne>at any rate, the real questions of journalistic merit involve what FSFE data did he see that FSFE does not want *us* to see
T 1610800261 18<29schestowitz>3/4 out their speakers are not technical
T 1610800265 18<29schestowitz>and all represent corporations
T 1610800268 18<29schestowitz>no community at all
T 1610800269 18<29vZS1_2>Yeah, 3/4 are idiots
T 1610800283 18<29schestowitz>[12:27] <Ariadne> "SJW" these days is a catch-all boogeyman term largely utilized by the alt-right
T 1610800287 18<29schestowitz>I don't use that term
T 1610800289 18<29schestowitz>avoid the term
T 1610800296 18<29schestowitz>dodge it, call it something more meaningful
T 1610800316 18<29schestowitz>[12:29] <Ariadne> a better, and more accurate term, is "concern troll"
T 1610800318 18<29vZS1_2>It all boils down to coups and hijacks
T 1610800318 18<29schestowitz>much better
T 1610800324 18<29schestowitz>until the alt reich uses that term too
T 1610800329 18<29schestowitz>like Trump hijacked "fake news"
T 1610800337 18<29schestowitz>so you cannot use that term after 2016
T 1610800351 18<29vZS1_2>Pocock exposed hijacking of Debian from outside the real community.
T 1610800368 18<29vZS1_2>The users and engineers
T 1610800389 18<29schestowitz>I am workinbg on an article
T 1610800393 18<29schestowitz>want to help with the draft?
T 1610800396 18<29schestowitz>first draft ready
T 1610800401 18<29vZS1_2>sure
T 1610800401 18<29schestowitz>needs polishing a bit
T 1610800406 18<29schestowitz>ok, hang on
T 1610800408 18<29Ariadne>i can't agree there. lamby is a talented engineer
T 1610800420 18<29Ariadne>and he lives and breathes debian
T 1610800424 18<29schestowitz>he is
T 1610800433 18<29Ariadne>he was coming up in debian at the same time alpine was started
T 1610800434 18<29schestowitz>but the sidekick jokes about never doing any code
T 1610800441 18<29schestowitz>parachuted because of connections
T 1610800443 18<29schestowitz>not in gnome
T 1610800449 18<29schestowitz>because of lamb's mate
T 1610800453 18<29schestowitz>mcgovern
T 1610800457 18<29schestowitz>who loathes rms
T 1610800460 18<29schestowitz>the g in gnome
T 1610800473 18<29Ariadne>well i have my own criticisms of rms' leadership
T 1610800486 18<29Ariadne>then again, i have witnessed him scream at interns
T 1610800514 18<29schestowitz>vZS1_2: draft: http://techrights.org/2021/01/16/freesw-difficult-truths/
T 1610800515 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Suppressed Facts of the Free Software Movement and Its Community of Volunteer – Part I: We Are Under Attack by Corporations and Their Salaried Facilitators | Techrights
T 1610800535 18<29vZS1_2>In general, the trend is to kick out the engineers from decision-making positions.
T 1610800540 18<29schestowitz>Ariadne: they pushed him out for other reasons
T 1610800544 18<29schestowitz>then justified it
T 1610800546 18<29Ariadne>i know
T 1610800553 18<29schestowitz>by retroactively pulling out old trash
T 1610800556 18<29schestowitz>weak dirt
T 1610800561 18<29schestowitz>and anecdotes
T 1610800575 18<29Ariadne>anyway, my conclusion is the best way to change the future is to actually do work to change the future
T 1610800583 18<29Ariadne>hince alpine, hince everything else i've done
T 1610800598 18<29schestowitz>[12:40] <vZS1_2> In general, the trend is to kick out the engineers from decision-making positions.
T 1610800610 18<29schestowitz>That's what Arjen from Wikileaks (ish) said
T 1610800614 18<29schestowitz>about debian
T 1610800624 18<29schestowitz>that people had been put in charge who have no qualifications
T 1610800637 18<29schestowitz>and same in other institutions
T 1610800642 18<29Ariadne>the DPL position is largely a figurehead position anyway
T 1610800644 18<29schestowitz>it's getting hard to respect
T 1610800647 18<29schestowitz>LF= zemlin
T 1610800650 18<29Ariadne>technical engineering is lead in a bottom-up style
T 1610800656 18<29schestowitz>used to be people liek ian murdoch as CTO
T 1610800660 18<29schestowitz>Murdock
T 1610800668 18<29schestowitz>now a bunch of execs who use Macs and Winsows
T 1610800682 18<29schestowitz>you don't need suits managing geeks
T 1610800684 18<29schestowitz>see InteLeaks
T 1610800689 18<29schestowitz>that leads to bad things
T 1610800699 18<29schestowitz>geeks can become managers, many examples of that
T 1610800704 18<29schestowitz>at least they know their s***
T 1610800715 18<29schestowitz>my phd supervisor was highly technical
T 1610800721 18<29schestowitz>and head of the CS Department in Manchester
T 1610800734 18<29schestowitz>even if he no longer wrote any more code
T 1610800758 18<29schestowitz>in osi, debian, LF... you deal with people who never coded and probably barely even used computers
T 1610800763 18<29Ariadne>anyway, Pocock does antagonize Debian from time to time
T 1610800766 18<29schestowitz>except to make Microsoft PowerPoint slides
T 1610800774 18<29schestowitz>or to make sales/marketing (Zemlin)
T 1610800779 18<29vZS1_2>IBM have more or less already hijacked Debian. They've got enough moles and dependencies now.
T 1610800791 18<29schestowitz>Google also
T 1610800795 18<29schestowitz>Microsoft is till trying
T 1610800805 18<29schestowitz>see the article draft
T 1610800809 18<29vZS1_2>Reading slowly
T 1610800811 18<29schestowitz>to suggest improvements or spot typos
T 1610800850 18<29Ariadne>anyway
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T 1610800910 18<29schestowitz>the post mentions no names
T 1610800914 18<29schestowitz>it's by intention
T 1610800927 18<29vZS1_2>"to a number of informed sourced"
T 1610800931 18<29vZS1_2>s/sourced/sources/
T 1610801017 18<29vZS1_2>"(they still haven’t managed to..."
T 1610801023 18<29vZS1_2>Missing the closing parenthesis
T 1610801053 18<29schestowitz>cheers, correctedx2
T 1610801060 18<29schestowitz>the image at the top makes an example
T 1610801064 18<29schestowitz>and demonstrates patterns
T 1610801071 18<29schestowitz>like, you talk about wikileaks showing war crimes
T 1610801076 18<29schestowitz>and end up talking about sex
T 1610801086 18<29schestowitz>because of some people who interject OT stuff
T 1610801124 18<29vZS1_2>That's why I sometimes just leave when it drifs OT
T 1610801132 18<29vZS1_2>drifts*
T 1610801135 18<29schestowitz>that's the goal
T 1610801141 18<29schestowitz>to ruin a community and its discussion
T 1610801165 18<29schestowitz>it's not so much about hijacking as it is about disrupting and destroying
T 1610801165 18<29vZS1_2>I just write down a post-it note and come back when the trolls are gone
T 1610801182 18<29schestowitz>Microsoft doesn't hijack companies and projects just to control then; if they go belly-up, Mission Accomplished
T 1610801187 18<29schestowitz>*them
T 1610801220 18<29vZS1_2>There's one thing to have a debate and then you just derail the conversation and make it about sex.
T 1610801222 18<29vZS1_2>WTAF
T 1610801227 18<29schestowitz>"Don't read that stooopid techrights site... it's full of sex perverts"
T 1610801264 18<29schestowitz>(even if those people are self-professed enemies of the site)
T 1610801274 18<29schestowitz>rather than people who support the site
T 1610801282 18<29vZS1_2>Techrights defends rapists. /s
T 1610801287 18<29vZS1_2>That's another favourite
T 1610801290 18<29schestowitz>"liked" in twitter
T 1610801293 18<29schestowitz>by Microsoft operatives
T 1610801296 18<29schestowitz>I saw that
T 1610801311 18<29schestowitz>"don't listen to them... they support crimes"
T 1610801325 18<29schestowitz>"they're almost literally raping women"
T 1610801328 18<29schestowitz>"nothing to see there"
T 1610801398 18<29vZS1_2>Twitter and friends are banned umpa lumpa only after it was clear he was on the way out.
T 1610801420 18<29vZS1_2>s/are//
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T 1610801492 18<29vZS1_2>It's probably an attempt to get on the good side of the Biden administration so he goes easier on big tech
T 1610801591 18<29vZS1_2>When cheeto hitler was president, and he refused to denounce neo-nazis, it was fine to let him stay on their platforms.
T 1610801633 18<29vZS1_2>"fantastic people on both sides"
T 1610801685 18<29vZS1_2>Cambridge analytica on FB
T 1610801692 18<29vZS1_2>all just fiiiiiine
T 1610801729 18<29vZS1_2>You need to be a special kind of idiot to believe that these platforms actually care about the public
T 1610801868 18<28techrights-bot>Suppressed Facts of the #FreeSoftware Movement and Its Community of Volunteers – Part I: We Are Under Attack by Corporations and Their Salaried Facilitators • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/16/freesw-difficult-truths/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW
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T 1610801881 18<29Ariadne>actually the goal of that conversation was to provide some insight into what 'free software hacker' culture is actually like
T 1610801912 18<29Ariadne>jake was not cancelled by SJWs, he was cancelled by his fellow hackers
T 1610801942 18<29schestowitz>that's a straw man
T 1610801947 18<29schestowitz>we did not talk about jake
T 1610801952 18<29schestowitz>jacob
T 1610801957 18<29schestowitz>not sure why some call him jake
T 1610801963 18<29Ariadne>that's what he calls himself
T 1610801968 18<29schestowitz>like he's their bbf
T 1610801974 18<29Ariadne>in a casual setting
T 1610801976 18<29schestowitz>but anyway, the subject was wikileaks journalism
T 1610801979 18<29schestowitz>and the extradition
T 1610801980 18<29schestowitz>not sex
T 1610801982 18<29schestowitz>not "jake"
T 1610802004 18<29schestowitz>but one person alone derail that important discussion about leak info about the powerful
T 1610802010 18<29Ariadne>i believe we all agreed that the carceral state has no business dealing with assange's sex life
T 1610802014 18<29schestowitz>https://wikileaks.org/google-is-not-what-it-seems/
T 1610802016 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606wikileaks.org | Julian Assange - Google Is Not What It Seems
T 1610802023 18<29schestowitz>new: v
T 1610802025 18<29schestowitz>https://www.thekashmirmonitor.net/amid-whatsapp-controversy-chomsky-quotes-assange-to-explain-how-facebooks-zuckerberg-becomes-man-of-the-year/
T 1610802026 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.thekashmirmonitor.net | Amid WhatsApp controversy, Chomsky quotes Assange to explain how Facebook's Zuckerberg becomes 'man of the year' - The Kashmir Monitor
T 1610802046 18<29schestowitz>it's OK for the rich to 'leak' or pass on all our private comms
T 1610802062 18<29schestowitz>but if we embarrass even one rich person by showing comms, that's a crime
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T 1610802089 18<29vZS1_2>"Invasion of their privacy"
T 1610802091 18<29Ariadne>i believe we also all agreed that the carceral state used what would typically have ended with an annoyed woman being annoyed as an excuse to do what the carceral state does
T 1610802094 18<29vZS1_2>Only matters if you're rich
T 1610802098 18<29vZS1_2>Privacy for the plebs?
T 1610802105 18<29vZS1_2>NO! Terrorism! Child porn!
T 1610802110 18<29schestowitz>yeah
T 1610802114 18<29schestowitz>they pass our data around
T 1610802120 18<29schestowitz>chats with family recorded
T 1610802130 18<29schestowitz>"smart" "assistants" in the bedroom
T 1610802134 18<29Ariadne>does not change the fact that had assange abided by what was requested of him by those women, the swedish government would not have had that angle to explore
T 1610802145 18<29schestowitz>"Alexa, don't listen, we're having sex now"
T 1610802152 18<29vZS1_2>Btw
T 1610802164 18<29vZS1_2>Someone else must have pinned the Assange PDFs I put on IPFS
T 1610802165 18<29Ariadne>does not change the fact that it is fucked up to tell a partner you're using a condom and then not use one
T 1610802170 18<29vZS1_2>Because they were accessible when my node was down
T 1610802186 18<29vZS1_2>The Assange court judgements in the UK
T 1610802189 18<29schestowitz>Ariadne: again, not the subject
T 1610802195 18<29schestowitz>the case has nothing to do withn sweden
T 1610802195 18<29Ariadne>but that is a personal matter, not one that is worthy of the carceral state's involvement
T 1610802199 18<29schestowitz>it's espionage charges from the US
T 1610802203 18<29schestowitz>over cablegate and war ogs
T 1610802210 18<29schestowitz>not women, not sweden
T 1610802217 18<29Ariadne>yes, and he shouldn't be extradited for that
T 1610802218 18<29schestowitz>let's focus on the issues one at a time
T 1610802244 18<29schestowitz>vZS1_2: maybe same hash?
T 1610802249 18<29schestowitz>if you upload the PDF
T 1610802263 18<29schestowitz>and then someone else uploads the same PDF obtained from somewhere else
T 1610802273 18<29schestowitz>would that entail the same cid/hash?
T 1610802282 18<29vZS1_2>Not always. Depends on how the chunking is done.
T 1610802286 18<29schestowitz>like checksums would for identical files?
T 1610802292 18<29schestowitz>vZS1_2: ok, makes sense
T 1610802309 18<29schestowitz>hashes are much shorter than files that make them up
T 1610802315 18<29schestowitz>so there would be collisions in theory
T 1610802316 18<29vZS1_2>Yeah
T 1610802329 18<29schestowitz>two separate items leading to identical checksums
T 1610802333 18<29vZS1_2>Either way. I'm glad the judgement is getting circulation
T 1610802352 18<29schestowitz>in theory, though in practice for a small set of items (say a million) the collisions are not very likely
T 1610802367 18<29schestowitz>tomorrow I will do Part II
T 1610802373 18<29Ariadne>i also think that ross ulbricht should not be in prison for the rest of his life for operating a website
T 1610802378 18<29vZS1_2>All I've seen in the last couple weeks is ad-hominem attacks on Assange
T 1610802389 18<29schestowitz>Ariadne: media painted him as a drug lord
T 1610802396 18<29schestowitz>like it does julian re women
T 1610802402 18<29schestowitz>that distorts the nature of cases
T 1610802428 18<29schestowitz>vZS1_2: he let in rogue people
T 1610802432 18<29schestowitz>many unwittingly
T 1610802432 18<29Ariadne>i think the media has accurately depicted julian's relationship with women, actually
T 1610802434 18<29schestowitz>bad vetting
T 1610802437 18<29schestowitz>like James Balls
T 1610802444 18<29schestowitz>but Balls is also lying
T 1610802455 18<29schestowitz>he was never wikileaks employee
T 1610802458 18<29schestowitz>barely even insider
T 1610802469 18<29schestowitz>he makes a career out of that false association
T 1610802481 18<29schestowitz>now accommodated by Murdoch's "Times"
T 1610802496 18<29Ariadne>it is pretty well understood in the anarchist hacker circles that assange is a womanizer and a transphobe
T 1610802507 18<29Ariadne>has been all along really
T 1610802522 18<29Ariadne>doesn't discount the importance of his work, mind
T 1610802524 18<29schestowitz>those are personal angles
T 1610802530 18<29schestowitz>to distract from wikileaks' contents
T 1610802534 18<25DVulgaris>Well, speaking of the Whatsapp stuff - I think the only viable solutions are IRC and XMPP: But most people won't use that, so Matrix might be a decent middle-ground
T 1610802540 18<25DVulgaris>It's generally all bleak though
T 1610802546 18<29Ariadne>matrix is so useless
T 1610802547 18<29schestowitz>and whether they're true or not, I don't think it even matters in this context
T 1610802566 18<25DVulgaris>Ariadne: It's a shitshow that is user-friendly sadly
T 1610802570 18<29schestowitz>DVulgaris: media suggests bad alternatives
T 1610802576 18<25DVulgaris>Obviously
T 1610802586 18<29Ariadne>i have three devices (a computer, an apple phone and an android phone) and they do not agree on the contents of matrix rooms hosted on my homeserver
T 1610802590 18<29techrights-ipfs> ▕ IPFS downstream, 45 mins: ▆▆▅▃▄▃▄▆▆▅▅▅▄▅▅▅▆▅▄▆▆▃█▄▆▆▆▆▅▅▆▇█▆▅▆▅▅▆▅▆▆▇▅▆▅▅▅▆▆▅ ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▃▄▃▂▃▂▃▃▃▃▄▃▂▃▂▄▄▃▄▃▂▃▃▄▅▅▃▃▃▃▃▂▂▃▄▂▄▅▃▅▃▂▃▃▃▄▅▂▃▃ ⟲
T 1610802592 18<29schestowitz>I saw this one 2 hours ago: https://www.maketecheasier.com/alternatives-to-whatsapp/
T 1610802592 18<25DVulgaris>schestowitz: they won't suggest anything that isn't tapped
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T 1610802614 18<29schestowitz>telegram lol
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T 1610802628 18<29vZS1_2>schestowitz: btw, got a question.
T 1610802630 18<25DVulgaris>Ariadne: I've been having some nice successes with XMPP (Conversations on Android, Gajim on GNU/Linux and Windows)
T 1610802641 18<29vZS1_2>Could you read section 80 on pg 30 of this https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmeDLCiNko3wZvU7FAHkX21uUCpMHBzjYTSqkWeNaBBnTb
T 1610802646 18<29schestowitz>signal = shithub, give a 'phone' number, not e2ee without keys in the middle (sometimes), vault7 shows bypasses
T 1610802657 18<29schestowitz>jami never mentioned
T 1610802658 18<29vZS1_2>schestowitz: do you think what's said there holds up?
T 1610802660 18<29schestowitz>formerly ring
T 1610802686 18<25DVulgaris>I cannot trust either telegram or signal - centralized and closed servers are 100% tapped
T 1610802694 18*29schestowitz checks pdf
T 1610802713 18<25DVulgaris>schestowitz: I tried Jami, it was rough around the edges - might give it a shot later down the road
T 1610802772 18<29schestowitz>seems reasonable (80)
T 1610802811 18<29vZS1_2>Also see (82)
T 1610802812 18<29schestowitz>Pentagon papers
T 1610802832 18<29schestowitz>lol
T 1610802836 18<29schestowitz>vZS1_2: then, than
T 1610802842 18<29schestowitz>they had 3 months to issue this PDF
T 1610802846 18<29schestowitz>October to January
T 1610802855 18<29schestowitz>even clerical stuff could snuff this out
T 1610802919 18<29vZS1_2>Obama administration really liked to go after journalists
T 1610802972 18<29schestowitz>82 seems correct
T 1610802980 18<29schestowitz>some NSA WBers said the same
T 1610802988 18<29schestowitz>yes, Obama did that
T 1610803015 18<29schestowitz>Risen https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/30/opinion/sunday/if-donald-trump-targets-journalists-thank-obama.html
T 1610803016 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.nytimes.com | Opinion | If Donald Trump Targets Journalists, Thank Obama - The New York Times
T 1610803017 18<29schestowitz>CIA leaker
T 1610803024 18<29schestowitz>Iran nukes blueprint
T 1610803035 18<29schestowitz>Sterling, might be out of prison now, had heart conditions
T 1610803060 18<29schestowitz>Another example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdulelah_Haider_Shaye
T 1610803061 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606en.wikipedia.org | Abdulelah Haider Shaye - Wikipedia
T 1610803067 18<29schestowitz>arrested with involvement by Obama
T 1610803078 18<29schestowitz>as he exposed drone strikes' reality
T 1610803098 18<29schestowitz>which embarrassed the regime from "Uncle Murica"
T 1610803119 18<29schestowitz>" On February 2, 2011, President Obama called then-Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh to discuss counterterrorism cooperation and al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. At the end of the call, according to a White House read-out, Obama "expressed concern" over the release of Shaye. Shaye had not been released at the time of the call, but Saleh did have a pardon prepared. Consequently, Shaye was not released until 2013."
T 1610803151 18<29schestowitz>"After a public outcry from tribal leaders in Yemen over Shaye's imprisonment, Yemeni president Ali Abdullah Saleh was prepared to release Shaye, but he was swayed otherwise by a call from U.S. President Barack Obama on February 2, 2011 citing his "concern" over Shaye's imminent release."
T 1610803215 18<29vZS1_2>People in Yemen are still dying because of the ongoing conflict
T 1610803224 18<29schestowitz>"Conflict"
T 1610803228 18<29schestowitz>more like "coup'
T 1610803230 18<29schestowitz>or "civil war"
T 1610803241 18<29vZS1_2>To the profit of the oil barons
T 1610803243 18<29schestowitz>https://wikileaks.org/yemen-files/
T 1610803244 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606wikileaks.org | WikiLeaks - Yemen Files
T 1610803254 18<29schestowitz>i have dug up almost all those files at the time
T 1610803256 18<29schestowitz>https://wikileaks.org/yemen-files/
T 1610803269 18<29schestowitz>the summary seems apt, too (in the page)
T 1610803271 18<29schestowitz>geopolitics
T 1610803279 18<29schestowitz>but they frame that as "war on terror"
T 1610803290 18<29schestowitz>now it is a war on nutrition
T 1610803326 18<29schestowitz>this week (days ago) https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/01/14/famine-not-seen-40-years-un-warns-pompeo-decision-yemen-could-lead-hundreds
T 1610803328 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.commondreams.org | 'Famine Not Seen in 40 Years': UN Warns Pompeo Decision in Yemen Could Lead to Hundreds of Thousands—If Not Millions—Dead | Common Dreams News
T 1610803365 18<29schestowitz>2 days ago
T 1610803384 18<29schestowitz>yesterday: https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/01/15/a-yemeni-famine-made-in-washington-and-riyadh/
T 1610803384 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06A Yemeni Famine Made in Washington and Riyadh - CounterPunch.org
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T 1610803768 18<29vZS1_2>From the commondreams article: "He [Pompeo] is convinced that the Houthis are directed by Iran."
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T 1610803784 18<29vZS1_2>""Pompeo is implementing a scorched earth policy in his final days, much of it directed at Iran, in an attempt to make it difficult for the incoming administration to reach a negotiated settlement with Tehran."
T 1610803807 18<29vZS1_2>Witness hundreds of thousands of people die just because some cunt wants to make it harder for political oppoents in the next administration.
T 1610803826 18<29vZS1_2>s/oppoents/opponents/
T 1610803842 18<29schestowitz>[13:34] <vZS1_2> From the commondreams article: "He [Pompeo] is convinced that the Houthis are directed by Iran."
T 1610803847 18<29schestowitz>that's an old CIA lie
T 1610803856 18<29schestowitz>from Michael Moron (Morell)
T 1610803864 18<29schestowitz>which he used CBS to spread as he worked there
T 1610803874 18<29schestowitz>anything to tie Iran to enemies of US interests
T 1610803892 18<29vZS1_2>Iran is a CIA favourite. They love messing with the country.
T 1610803910 18<29schestowitz>Iran said it would be open to redo the nuke deal with Biden
T 1610803917 18<29schestowitz>which must have pissed off Trump and triggered Pompeo
T 1610803930 18<29schestowitz>who does photo ops now with Israel's Crime Minister
T 1610803958 18<29schestowitz>I think they'll have another deal signed later this year, with EU involved
T 1610803970 18<29schestowitz>Iran does not actually need a war (which it would lose regardless)
T 1610803980 18<29schestowitz>it was always just Trump threatening to start a war
T 1610803988 18<29schestowitz>so the provocation did not come from Iran
T 1610804003 18<29schestowitz>it's also trump who violated the deal they had signed with Kerry and others
T 1610804037 18<29schestowitz>I saw the terrified reactions on the faces of friends of mine who left Iran and still have family there
T 1610804044 18<29schestowitz>Trump used "tweets" to threaten to kill millions
T 1610804046 18<29vZS1_2>Also
T 1610804048 18<29vZS1_2>From yesterday
T 1610804049 18<29schestowitz>helps Dorsey sell ads
T 1610804050 18<29vZS1_2>https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/1/15/major-violations-of-international-law-at-tigray-refugee-camps-un
T 1610804050 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.aljazeera.com | ‘Major violations’ of international law at Tigray refugee camps | Ethiopia News | Al Jazeera
T 1610804058 18<29schestowitz>when Twitter had been operating at a loss for a decade
T 1610804070 18<29schestowitz>so Twitter let the troll carry on selling ads with threats
T 1610804145 18<29vZS1_2>>schestowitz helps Dorsey sell ads
T 1610804162 18<29vZS1_2>This is what people that use Twitler support, whether they're aware or not.
T 1610804187 18<29schestowitz>By Mozilla's standards (CEO Baker) we should deplatform Dorsey and Twitter
T 1610804196 18<29schestowitz>for profiting from hate and state terror
T 1610804207 18<29schestowitz>but then again, Mozilla keeps digging its own grave
T 1610804226 18<29schestowitz>with that super-rich idiot who uses the brand "Mozilla" (and "Firefox") like paper tissue for her political idealogy
T 1610804258 18<29schestowitz>vZS1_2: Reddit may soon collapse too
T 1610804265 18<29schestowitz>mass layoffs in the parent company
T 1610804268 18<29schestowitz>don't help Reddit
T 1610804272 18<29schestowitz>wasted effort
T 1610804275 18<29schestowitz>it's the next Digg
T 1610804279 18<29schestowitz>they used to compete
T 1610804284 18<29schestowitz>Digg died much earlier
T 1610804303 18<29vZS1_2>>I saw the terrified reactions on the faces of friends of mine who left Iran...
T 1610804307 18<29schestowitz>The Donald in Reddit helped conde nasty sell ads
T 1610804315 18<29schestowitz>Reddit: "bad actors"
T 1610804319 18<29schestowitz>Baker: KILL THEM ALL!
T 1610804324 18<29schestowitz>(Reddit)
T 1610804338 18<29schestowitz>because "Deploatforming" is not enough
T 1610804369 18<29vZS1_2>According to Twitler, things like that didn't warrant kicking Trump off the platform.
T 1610804373 18<29schestowitz>Mozilla... the only way for me to still use Firefox is to dissociate the CEO from the employees
T 1610804381 18<29schestowitz>like she's an inherent abberration
T 1610804396 18<29schestowitz>amid this layoff atmosphere nobody among them would dare blog their disagreement with the CEO
T 1610804414 18<29schestowitz>they just suck up to her, like Asa Dotzler did some months ago
T 1610804430 18<29vZS1_2>Leaks from inside Mozilla would be much appreciated
T 1610804432 18<29schestowitz>today I had a shower thought: tweets as 'articles' about Trump
T 1610804437 18<29schestowitz>what is the worth of such articles now
T 1610804452 18<29vZS1_2>>schestowitz what is the worth of such articles now
T 1610804460 18<29schestowitz>"Trump says... [sorry, tweet cannot be found] THAT IS outrageous!"
T 1610804463 18<29vZS1_2>I think it's important to highlight the hypocrisy of Twitler
T 1610804471 18<29schestowitz>it also impedes historians studying that awful presidency"
T 1610804499 18<29schestowitz>unless they can legally demand Twitter hands over verifiable data (screenshots are easy to fake, hard to verify)
T 1610804544 18<29vZS1_2>Twitler could have just wiped the posts from their database. In a way, it helps Trump. People can't access the original posts.
T 1610804553 18<29vZS1_2>Trump can just claim "fake news".
T 1610804594 18<29schestowitz>btw, twitler still uses Trump for profit
T 1610804597 18<29schestowitz>if you were to log in
T 1610804604 18<29schestowitz>watch what bait they put in trending
T 1610804610 18<29schestowitz>complete with ptrovocation
T 1610804612 18<29schestowitz>and images
T 1610804613 18<29vZS1_2>Your best bet is to grab posts from the trusted propaganda outlets like BBC. They must have posts with Trump tweets.
T 1610804625 18<29schestowitz>"you'll never believe what happened next" type of partisan crap
T 1610804628 18<29vZS1_2>That way, if someone says TR is "fake news", they also have to say BBC is "fake news".
T 1610804641 18<28MinceR>maybe archive.org and/or archive.is has some as well
T 1610804657 18<29schestowitz>MinceR: some
T 1610804660 18<29schestowitz>but the links are broken
T 1610804669 18<28MinceR>i doubt it's a difficult mental exercise for a fascist to call BBC "fake news"
T 1610804670 18<29schestowitz>for 'articles' that are just amplifying trump tweets
T 1610804679 18<29schestowitz>those types of articles become scarce again
T 1610804688 18<29schestowitz>as I think the publishers that did this collapse by now
T 1610804694 18<29schestowitz>COVID killed such fake 'journalism'
T 1610804722 18<29schestowitz>the "post tweet", respond in line, choose provocative headline, press "publish" so-called 'journalism'
T 1610804727 18<29schestowitz>many culprits to that effect
T 1610804768 18<29schestowitz>BBC is not even news
T 1610804774 18<29schestowitz>I stopped using it even for weather
T 1610804779 18<29schestowitz>and for football scores
T 1610804787 18<29schestowitz>I get both in the command line now
T 1610804801 18<29schestowitz>updated every minute for football and every one hour for weather forecasts
T 1610804820 18<29schestowitz>the COVID sections of BBC are now ads for pfizer and bill
T 1610804825 18<29schestowitz>so I stopped accessing those, too
T 1610804842 18<29schestowitz>and I still have in my kitchen a threat we got from TV Licensing 2 days ago
T 1610804850 18<29schestowitz>right to the recycling bin (paper)
T 1610804861 18<29vZS1_2>"There has been no comment from Ethiopian Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed and the government’s emergency task force for the Tigray crisis."
T 1610804866 18<29schestowitz>was in quarantine in the kitchen... might contain postman's covid
T 1610804870 18<29vZS1_2>Our Nobel "Peace" prize winner over here.
T 1610804889 18<29schestowitz>he was problematic
T 1610804901 18<29schestowitz>maybe they will give to WHO's chief an award too
T 1610804907 18<29schestowitz>check his political background
T 1610804916 18<29schestowitz>connected to Ethiopian fascists
T 1610804928 18<29schestowitz>I guess it's easier to get leverage over people with a past such as this
T 1610804955 18<29schestowitz>AIDS organisation manager, December 2009 (New York Times): “Gates has created a huge blood-buying operation that only cares about money, not about people.”
T 1610804982 18<29schestowitz>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/16/science/16malaria.html?_r=1
T 1610804982 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.nytimes.com | Gates Foundation’s Influence Criticized - The New York Times
T 1610805000 18<29schestowitz>"Many of the world’s leading malaria scientists are now “locked up in a ‘cartel’ with their own research funding being linked to those of others within the group,” Dr. Kochi wrote. Because “each has a vested interest to safeguard the work of the others,” he wrote, getting independent reviews of research proposals “is becoming increasingly difficult.”
T 1610805001 18<29schestowitz>"Also, he argued, the foundation’s determination to have its favored research used to guide the health organization’s recommendations “could have implicitly dangerous consequences on the policy-making process in world health.”"
T 1610805018 18<29schestowitz>"The chief of malaria for the World Health Organization has complained that the growing dominance of malaria research by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation risks stifling a diversity of views among scientists and wiping out the world health agency’s policy-making function.
T 1610805020 18<29schestowitz>"In a memorandum, the malaria chief, Dr. Arata Kochi, complained to his boss, Dr. Margaret Chan, the director general of the W.H.O., that the foundation’s money, while crucial, could have “far-reaching, largely unintended consequences.”
T 1610805024 18<29schestowitz>Even back then
T 1610805026 18<29schestowitz>2008
T 1610805031 18<29schestowitz>and now we have this
T 1610805033 18<29schestowitz>last night:
T 1610805042 18<29schestowitz>https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielshapiro/2021/01/14/americas-biggest-owner-of-farmland-is-now-bill-gates-bezos-turner/
T 1610805042 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.forbes.com | America’s Biggest Owner Of Farmland Is Now Bill Gates
T 1610805050 18<29schestowitz>https://landreport.com/2021/01/bill-gates-americas-top-farmland-owner/
T 1610805051 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606landreport.com | Bill Gates: America's Top Farmland Owner | The Land Report
T 1610805060 18<29schestowitz>maybe media not bribed by this thug will catch up fast enough
T 1610805065 18<29schestowitz>the public certainly does
T 1610805075 18<29schestowitz>and it's impossible to bribe every single publisher
T 1610805078 18<29schestowitz>does not scale
T 1610805089 18<29vZS1_2>I still have well-meaning people who believe Gates is an altruist
T 1610805105 18<29vZS1_2>s/have/know/
T 1610805114 18<29schestowitz>we can mock them
T 1610805116 18<29schestowitz>they're dumb
T 1610805120 18<29schestowitz>and they help oppressors
T 1610805128 18<29schestowitz>that can turn around within mere months
T 1610805141 18<29schestowitz>can take longer fi they reach BBC
T 1610805147 18<29schestowitz>or if they watch it... shudders
T 1610805166 18<29schestowitz>http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/bbc-in-2020/
T 1610805167 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | BBC Turned From Public Broadcaster Into Bill Gates-Funded Propaganda Machine and… a Crank/Troll-Feeding Machine | Techrights
T 1610805171 18<29vZS1_2>My entire family watches the propaganda box.
T 1610805174 18<29schestowitz>http://techrights.org/2011/05/29/gates-gives-bbc-money/
T 1610805175 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | BBC Bribed by Bill Gates | Techrights
T 1610805177 18<29schestowitz>http://techrights.org/2012/03/07/bbc-gates/
T 1610805178 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Bill Gates Pays the BBC, Gets Coverage From the BBC | Techrights
T 1610805188 18<29schestowitz>this is not a new issue
T 1610805241 18<28techrights-bot>Reading about mindless buzzwords and hype https://opensource.com/article/21/1/devops-books
T 1610805241 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-064 DevOps books to read this year | Opensource.com
T 1610805270 18<29schestowitz>Linux Journal now posts spam
T 1610805271 18<29schestowitz>https://www.linuxjournal.com/users/zachary-renz
T 1610805272 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.linuxjournal.com | Zachary Renz | Linux Journal
T 1610805274 18<29schestowitz>never heard of him
T 1610805276 18<29schestowitz>one piece
T 1610805277 18<29schestowitz>an ad
T 1610805337 18<29vZS1_2>I've been looking for some local sources in the Tigray region to give reports of what's actually going on there
T 1610805347 18<29vZS1_2>There's a media and technology blackout in the region
T 1610805356 18<28techrights-bot>"Pushing, and then leaving alone in the driver seats, “STEM” guys who never received from school any decent clue about ethics, or the main basic lessons that everybody should learn from history and philosophy, is a major cause of the current state of things, in the US and elsewhere." https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/01/phd-level-education-a-hamster-wheel-mounted-facing-the-wrong-way/
T 1610805357 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606stop.zona-m.net | PhD-level education: a hamster wheel, mounted facing the wrong way | Stop at Zona-M
T 1610805383 18<28techrights-bot>Reading about mindless buzzwords and hype https://opensource.com/article/21/1/devops-books
T 1610805467 18<29schestowitz>vZS1_2: I saw many reports
T 1610805472 18<29schestowitz>but not in western msm
T 1610805487 18<29schestowitz>http://techrights.org/index.php?s=Tigray
T 1610805491 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Tigray | Techrights
T 1610805547 18<29schestowitz>14 results, posts (Daily Links)
T 1610805612 18<29vZS1_2>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_and_surveillance_in_Africa
T 1610805612 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606en.wikipedia.org | Internet censorship and surveillance in Africa - Wikipedia
T 1610805618 18<29vZS1_2>Ethiopia one of the worst offenders
T 1610805632 18<28techrights-bot>’MEA’ is just three letters. http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/general-court-says-that-almea-and-mea.html #trademark #law at #euipo which is itself violating the law. See http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EUIPO
T 1610805634 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606ipkitten.blogspot.com | General Court says that ‘ALMEA’ and ’MEA’ are confusingly similar - The IPKat
T 1610805634 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | EUIPO - Techrights
T 1610805708 18<25DVulgaris>Actually, what's worse about STEM is that university faculty members reinforce and rehash that attitude by acting unethically themselves for the most part
T 1610805709 18<29schestowitz>http://techrights.org/2019/07/04/epo-budget-for-media/
T 1610805709 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Ethiopian Media Gamed by EPO Management, Just Like European Media | Techrights
T 1610805717 18<29schestowitz>Ethiopia is very corrupt
T 1610805724 18<25DVulgaris>Not news
T 1610805730 18<25DVulgaris>Sadly
T 1610805733 18<29schestowitz>Eritrea is also notorious fro attacks on the press
T 1610805748 18<25DVulgaris>Most of Africa is under deep corruption
T 1610805773 18<28techrights-bot>The corporate takeover (taking over the Commons, produced by volunteers who are motivated by altruism) is a subject we must speak about and somehow tackle; this series will highlight uncomfortable or difficult truths http://techrights.org/2021/01/16/freesw-difficult-truths/
T 1610805773 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Suppressed Facts of the Free Software Movement and Its Community of Volunteers – Part I: We Are Under Attack by Corporations and Their Salaried Facilitators | Techrights
T 1610805796 18<29schestowitz>DVulgaris: not just Africa
T 1610805800 18<29schestowitz>we love shaming them more
T 1610805806 18<25DVulgaris>Oh yeah
T 1610805808 18<25DVulgaris>I know
T 1610805809 18<29schestowitz>but they're probably less fortunate
T 1610805814 18<25DVulgaris>Exactly
T 1610805814 18<29schestowitz>because corruption there leads to hunger
T 1610805822 18<29schestowitz>here it leads to less severe conditions
T 1610805831 18<29schestowitz>like genocide in Darfur
T 1610805840 18<25DVulgaris>I mean, the West's corruption is just more hidden
T 1610805856 18<29schestowitz>less so if we have wikileaks
T 1610805864 18<29schestowitz>which is why they shame and make an example of it
T 1610805873 18<25DVulgaris>I personally live in one of the most corrupt western countries (won't name for privacy reasons)
T 1610805880 18<29schestowitz>to many people cablegate was an eye openers re 'hegemony'
T 1610805896 18<25DVulgaris>Yep, especially that wikileaks shamed "the american empire"
T 1610805902 18<29schestowitz>'shames'
T 1610805905 18<29schestowitz>HOW DARE!!
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T 1610805917 18<25DVulgaris>It's like nam' all over again
T 1610805928 18<29schestowitz>nam
T 1610805930 18<29schestowitz>'jap'
T 1610805933 18<29schestowitz>veitnam
T 1610805934 18<29schestowitz>japan
T 1610805938 18<29schestowitz>the US lied about the nukes
T 1610805944 18<29schestowitz>as was explained in the anniversary
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T 1610805952 18<25DVulgaris>Mind you
T 1610805954 18<29schestowitz>until people brought the stories of what happened on the ground
T 1610805956 18<29schestowitz>in both
T 1610805964 18<29schestowitz>not the myths
T 1610805965 18<25DVulgaris>They are still telling lies about nukes
T 1610805967 18<29schestowitz>photos, stories
T 1610805979 18<29schestowitz>empathy is easier when there are no faces
T 1610805982 18<25DVulgaris>But this time it is NK (which might not totally be a lie) and iran
T 1610805994 18<25DVulgaris>schestowitz: exactly
T 1610806014 18<29schestowitz>I forgot the details about Japanese revisionism
T 1610806020 18<29schestowitz>and who exposed this to the American public
T 1610806028 18<29schestowitz>but it was in the news some months back
T 1610806034 18<29schestowitz>75th anniversary
T 1610806040 18<29schestowitz>I can find time
T 1610806084 18<29schestowitz>https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/02/14/dresden-february-1945/
T 1610806085 18<29schestowitz>https://truthout.org/articles/auschwitz-survivors-dont-want-their-past-to-be-their-grandchildrens-future/
T 1610806085 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Dresden, February 1945 - CounterPunch.org
T 1610806086 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606truthout.org | Auschwitz Survivors Don’t Want Their Past to Be Their Grandchildren’s Future
T 1610806123 18<29schestowitz>http://johnpilger.com/articles/another-hiroshima-is-coming-unless-we-stop-it-now
T 1610806124 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606johnpilger.com | ANOTHER HIROSHIMA IS COMING… UNLESS WE STOP IT NOW
T 1610806125 18<29schestowitz>https://www.dw.com/en/dresden-marks-wwii-bombing-in-far-right-stronghold/a-52368359
T 1610806136 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Dresden marks WWII bombing in far-right stronghold | Germany| News and in-depth reporting from Berlin and beyond | DW | 13.02.2020
T 1610806143 18<29schestowitz>https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/08/06/life-under-bomb-means-life-resistance
T 1610806144 18<29schestowitz>https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/08/06/reverse-the-new-nuclear-arms-race/
T 1610806147 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Life Under the Bomb Means a Life of Resistance
T 1610806148 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Reverse the New Nuclear Arms Race - CounterPunch.org
T 1610806154 18<29schestowitz>"This 75th anniversary of Hiroshima should not just be an interesting historical marker; it should be a turning point, when the U.S. renounces its nuclear legacy, and charts a new course for itself and humanity"
T 1610806171 18<29schestowitz>https://truthout.org/video/on-75th-anniversary-hiroshima-survivor-warns-against-nuclear-weapons/
T 1610806172 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606truthout.org | On 75th Anniversary, Hiroshima Survivor Warns Against Nuclear Weapons
T 1610806189 18<29schestowitz>"On the 75th anniversary of when the United States dropped the world’s first atomic bomb on the Japanese city of Hiroshima, killing some 140,000 people, we speak with Hideko Tamura Snider, who was 10 years old when she survived the attack. “The shaking was so huge,” she recalls. “I remember the sensation, the color and the smell like yesterday.” Tamura Snider describes her harrowing journey through a shattered city, suffering
T 1610806190 18<29techrights-ipfs> ▕ IPFS downstream, 45 mins: ▇▆▅▆▅▇▃▅▆▆▅▃▄▃▆▇▅▆▆▆▅▄▅▅▃▅▇▅▆▇▆▆▆▅▅▅▇▅▆▆▅▅▅▆▃▇▅▅▆▇▆▄ ▕ IPFS upstream: ▃▃▂▄▅▃▄▃▄▃▂▄▂▃▄▂▂▃▂▃▃▂▃▃▃▄▃▄▁▂▂▄▂▄▄▂▃▃▄▂▃▄▂▃▃▃▄▂▃▂▃▄▃▃▃▃▂ ⟲
T 1610806191 18<29schestowitz>radiation sickness following the attack, and her message to President Trump."
T 1610806210 18<29schestowitz>https://www.democracynow.org/2020/8/6/hideko_tamura_snider_hiroshima_75th_anniversary
T 1610806212 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.democracynow.org | “The Beginning of Our End”: On 75th Anniversary, Hiroshima Survivor Warns Against Nuclear Weapons | Democracy Now!
T 1610806216 18<29schestowitz>Aha, found it: https://www.democracynow.org/2020/8/6/greg_mitchell_atomic_bomb_hollywood
T 1610806218 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.democracynow.org | Revealed: How U.S. Gov’t & Hollywood Secretly Worked Together to Justify Atomic Bombings of Japan | Democracy Now!
T 1610806226 18<29schestowitz>that last one is the one ref I looked for
T 1610806234 18<29schestowitz>the rest are loosely related
T 1610806352 18<29schestowitz>Ariadne: https://www.cyberciti.biz/atom/updated.xml alpine on top now: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-upgrade-alpine-linux-3-4-to-3-5-xx/
T 1610806353 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.cyberciti.biz | How to upgrade Alpine Linux 3.12 to 3.13 - nixCraft
T 1610806508 18<29schestowitz>vZS1_2: spoke to BT this morning
T 1610806522 18<29schestowitz>they said the manager (Executive Team) and others are still on the case
T 1610806529 18<29schestowitz>and posted updates as recently as last night
T 1610806532 18<29schestowitz>multiple people
T 1610806541 18<29schestowitz>so it's considered an ongoing investigation still
T 1610806558 18<29vZS1_2>Sounds like they have a "black box" case. lol
T 1610806561 18<29schestowitz>by offering compensation (which I did not even ask for!) they also acknowledge the problem is at their end
T 1610806577 18<29schestowitz>vZS1_2: the way I understand it
T 1610806585 18<29schestowitz>spoke to the eng from the other room (distancing)
T 1610806593 18<29schestowitz>they have 30-unit blocks
T 1610806596 18<29schestowitz>for houses
T 1610806606 18<29schestowitz>and that gets shaped by algorithms
T 1610806617 18<29schestowitz>like time sharing by training on the data for 3-7 days
T 1610806623 18<29schestowitz>they reset those settings
T 1610806640 18<29schestowitz>and now monitor how the round robin operates
T 1610806653 18<29schestowitz>I use lots of real-time stuff like ssh, but not heavy on b/w
T 1610806669 18<29schestowitz>I don't need high throughput, just low latency and uptime
T 1610806685 18<29schestowitz>but when uploading 1 MB takes 5 minutes, it's not acceptable imho
T 1610806688 18<29schestowitz>and they agree
T 1610806701 18<29schestowitz>OK, maybe 1MB in two minutes
T 1610806701 18<29vZS1_2>https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/1/14/irresponsible-bangladesh-slams-pompeos-al-qaeda-attacks-claim
T 1610806702 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.aljazeera.com | ‘Irresponsible’: Bangladesh slams Pompeo’s al-Qaeda attacks claim | Al-Qaeda News | Al Jazeera
T 1610806703 18<29schestowitz>still very bad
T 1610806713 18<29schestowitz>vZS1_2: rogue state
T 1610806715 18<29schestowitz>(US)
T 1610806726 18<29schestowitz>the plaster themselves all over the definition of their term
T 1610806740 18<29schestowitz>soon we might have "axis of evil"
T 1610806750 18<29schestowitz>Mo Bin Salami, Bibi, and Biden
T 1610806864 18<28techrights-bot>#ArcoLinux 21.03.1 is out. https://arcolinux.info/ #gnu #linux #belgium
T 1610806865 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06ArcoLinux.info | Linux Made Easy and Beautiful
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T 1610806954 18<28techrights-bot>"My timeline recently would show that I've been trying to keep up to speed with developments in the attack on the United States Capitol earlier this month" #socialconrolmedia A BAD source of 'news'... http://coyote.works//posts/MouseTrap20210115/
T 1610806954 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606coyote.works | Things Are Changing Fast
T 1610807005 18<29vZS1_2>https://sputnikvaccine.com/newsroom/pressreleases/sputnik-v-vaccine-approved-in-paraguay/
T 1610807006 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606sputnikvaccine.com | Sputnik V vaccine approved in Paraguay | Official website vaccine against COVID-19 Sputnik V.
T 1610807027 18<29vZS1_2>Looks like South America is going for the Russian vaccine
T 1610807060 18<28techrights-bot>Donald #trump has long been the "TROLL" in #socialconTROLLMedia and Jack Dorsey profited a lot from this troll. According to #mozilla CEO Baker, we should deplotform @jack too for profiting off hate...
T 1610807120 18<28techrights-bot>#billgates the robber baron won't profit from this one https://sputnikvaccine.com/newsroom/pressreleases/sputnik-v-vaccine-approved-in-paraguay/ see https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/
T 1610807121 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.thenation.com | While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The Nation
T 1610807144 18<29vZS1_2>"he Sputnik V vaccine has been approved in Russia, Belarus, Serbia, Argentina, Bolivia, Algeria, Palestine and Venezuela; the process to approve the vaccine in the EU has been initiated."
T 1610807170 18<29vZS1_2>I like how Palestine is actually recognised there.
T 1610807200 18<29schestowitz>maybe that's why Twitter suepended them
T 1610807236 18<29schestowitz>ICYMI: https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/01/14/twitter-temporarily-restricts-account-for-russian-coronavirus-vaccine-sputnik-v
T 1610807237 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606meduza.io | NO TITLE
T 1610807238 18<28MinceR>:>
T 1610807255 18<29vZS1_2>Oh
T 1610807260 18<29vZS1_2>Great
T 1610807341 18<29schestowitz>yup
T 1610807347 18<29schestowitz>social conTROLL media
T 1610807358 18<29schestowitz>what you do not know does not exist
T 1610807361 18<29schestowitz>just "vaccine"
T 1610807371 18<29schestowitz>=oxford/moderna/others
T 1610807375 18<29schestowitz>Russia is 'fake'
T 1610807377 18<29schestowitz>'fake news'
T 1610807379 18<29schestowitz>'fake vaccine'
T 1610807382 18<25DVulgaris>Well
T 1610807383 31<kingoffrance>30re: stem, corporate takeover, ethics http://dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2&Database=gcide&Query=lawful Lawful means conformable to the principle, spirit, or essence of the law, and is applicable to moral as well as juridical law. Legal means conformable to the letter or rules of the law as it is administered in the courts; conformable to juridical law. guess what
T 1610807383 31<kingoffrance>30 type of entity corporations are? legal. they dont do "moral" law; they do the dead letter of the law, spirit be damned
T 1610807384 18<25DVulgaris>TBH
T 1610807384 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06dict.org- lawful
T 1610807401 18<25DVulgaris>The russian vaccine doesn't have enough proper research behind it
T 1610807414 31<kingoffrance>30that distinction is pretty dead nowadays (quote is from websters 1913)
T 1610807415 18<29schestowitz>unlike?
T 1610807423 18<25DVulgaris>Not that I don't have my gripes with modern'a and pfizer's vaccines
T 1610807430 18<29schestowitz>yeah
T 1610807431 31<kingoffrance>30how many ppl of any age are taught that distinction?
T 1610807434 18<25DVulgaris>But at least they had proper three-stage trials
T 1610807437 18<29schestowitz>I always put them at equal footing
T 1610807439 18<29schestowitz>I say,
T 1610807441 18<29schestowitz>Russia's vaccine
T 1610807444 18<29schestowitz>crap claims
T 1610807444 18<25DVulgaris>It's not the same
T 1610807447 18<29schestowitz>same for USian ones
T 1610807454 18<29schestowitz>waiting for godot/evidence
T 1610807457 18<25DVulgaris>Russia's vaccine isn't properly proven
T 1610807461 18<29schestowitz>the media cannot pretend only one is fake
T 1610807465 18<29schestowitz>or baseless for now
T 1610807469 18<29schestowitz>but the media isn't journalism
T 1610807470 18<25DVulgaris>Moderna's vaccine has 94.5% efficacy
T 1610807472 18<29schestowitz>it's PR
T 1610807479 18<25DVulgaris>And Pfizer's is at 95%
T 1610807480 18<29schestowitz>marketign
T 1610807481 18<29schestowitz>DVulgaris: based on Moderna
T 1610807489 18<29schestowitz>Based on Pfizer
T 1610807492 18<25DVulgaris>It's peer-reviewed research
T 1610807494 18<29schestowitz>and [citation needed]
T 1610807499 18<29schestowitz>funded by?
T 1610807504 18<25DVulgaris>I mean
T 1610807507 18<29schestowitz>I saw them bribing at the univrsity
T 1610807515 18<25DVulgaris>Look at the statistics in israel
T 1610807515 18<29schestowitz>and no public data
T 1610807520 18<29schestowitz>like ages, sizes
T 1610807525 18<29schestowitz>evidence still needed
T 1610807532 18<29schestowitz>they are in no rush tro produce any
T 1610807538 18<29schestowitz>easier to bribes the media and rally barons
T 1610807541 18<29schestowitz>to appease the "plebs"
T 1610807546 18<29schestowitz>the "vaccine" is here
T 1610807551 18<29schestowitz>"things will be back to normal soon"
T 1610807553 18<25DVulgaris>Most of the elderly population has been already vaccinated and they're not filling ERs anymore
T 1610807554 18<29vZS1_2>There's far more transparency around the Sputnik V trials. And they don't hide the fact that these are trials.
T 1610807558 18<29schestowitz>BoJo: "normality by xmas
T 1610807561 18<29schestowitz>which xmas?
T 1610807565 18<29schestowitz>not 2020, that's for sure
T 1610807577 18<25DVulgaris>I'm not gonna argue on this
T 1610807586 18<29schestowitz>[14:37] <DVulgaris> Most of the elderly population has been already vaccinated and they're not filling ERs anymore
T 1610807586 18<25DVulgaris>Because you're not making sense
T 1610807591 18<29schestowitz>False in the UK
T 1610807599 18<29schestowitz>first doze of the stuff in 3.3m people
T 1610807602 18<29schestowitz>and still record numbers
T 1610807607 18<25DVulgaris>I meant in israel
T 1610807608 18<29schestowitz>deaths, cases, hospitalisations
T 1610807611 18<25DVulgaris>To be specific
T 1610807626 18<25DVulgaris>It's currently the only place with high vaccination rates
T 1610807631 18<29schestowitz>Israel never reported many deaths
T 1610807635 18<29schestowitz>maybe by falsifying
T 1610807641 18<25DVulgaris>Oh come on
T 1610807649 18<29schestowitz>10k or so new cases recently, per day
T 1610807654 18<29schestowitz>for less than 10 million pop.
T 1610807656 18<25DVulgaris>They'd deny other stuff, not this
T 1610807665 18<29schestowitz>that's like 80,000 cases per day in UK
T 1610807670 18<25DVulgaris>That's because the general population still isn't vaccinated
T 1610807674 18<29schestowitz>so the vaccines are not slowing things down
T 1610807682 18<25DVulgaris>And the "lockdowns" weren't tight
T 1610807687 18<29schestowitz>DVulgaris: they can always blame "old people" dying of age
T 1610807692 18<29schestowitz>or say "real soon now"
T 1610807694 18<25DVulgaris>The vaccines are lowering the mortality rates
T 1610807698 18<29schestowitz>"wait for dose 2"
T 1610807703 18<29schestowitz>which some say is worse than the first
T 1610807704 18<25DVulgaris>Mainly because the elderly are the most affected
T 1610807706 18<29schestowitz>that's vapiurware
T 1610807712 18<29schestowitz>and they keep invoicing for more orders
T 1610807714 18<29schestowitz>pay more
T 1610807717 18<25DVulgaris>Nevermind
T 1610807717 18<29schestowitz>for version x+1
T 1610807722 18<29schestowitz>"will fix everything!"
T 1610807728 18<25DVulgaris>I won't argue with a science denier
T 1610807737 18<29schestowitz>I'm not a science denier
T 1610807740 18<29schestowitz>the opposite
T 1610807743 18<29schestowitz>I question marketing
T 1610807749 18<29schestowitz>and ask to see the science
T 1610807751 18<29schestowitz>which we lack
T 1610807754 18<29schestowitz>WHO lacks it
T 1610807761 18<29schestowitz>the journalists (so-called) cite none
T 1610807766 18<29vZS1_2>So we get another Pfizer and Moderna lackey here. Good to know.
T 1610807773 18<29schestowitz>they do "happy sftories" about some happy grandmas
T 1610807777 18<25DVulgaris>Look at the research being published in journals
T 1610807779 18<29schestowitz>anecdotal stuff
T 1610807783 18<25DVulgaris>Such as NJEM
T 1610807785 18<25DVulgaris>Or Nature
T 1610807790 18<29schestowitz>I saw some papers
T 1610807793 18<25DVulgaris>This is the stuff I'm talking about
T 1610807794 18<29schestowitz>and they question the claims
T 1610807835 18<29schestowitz>bmj had some
T 1610807850 18<29schestowitz>cite it
T 1610807851 18<29schestowitz>Nature
T 1610807907 18<29schestowitz>there are also rogue elements at play, e.g. http://techrights.org/2011/01/10/lancet-gates-exxon-mobil/
T 1610807908 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Gates Foundation Pays the Lancet Journal — Now Distorts Academic Literature Too | Techrights
T 1610807920 18<29schestowitz>after they said the truth http://techrights.org/2010/09/07/simon-chapman-on-gates-slim/
T 1610807921 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | World’s Leading Medical Journal (The Lancet) Slams Bill Gates for Supporting Tobacco Industry | Techrights
T 1610807933 18<29schestowitz>http://techrights.org/2011/01/11/lancet-fundacion-gates/
T 1610807934 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | ES: Fundación Gates Paga a The Lancet Jornal- Ahora Distorsiona la Literatura Académica Demasiado | Techrights
T 1610807962 18<29schestowitz>DVulgaris: since you mentioned Israel
T 1610807970 18<29schestowitz>more people die there than become, in spite of lockdowns
T 1610807977 18<29schestowitz>and you cite the vaccine
T 1610807985 18<29schestowitz>without any evidence of it working
T 1610807985 18<29vZS1_2>The Sputnik V trials have been the only transparent trials right from the start
T 1610807991 18<29vZS1_2>https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04437875?term=Gamaleya&draw=2
T 1610807993 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06An Open Study of the Safety, Tolerability and Immunogenicity of "Gam-COVID-Vac Lyo" Vaccine Against COVID-19 - Full Text View - ClinicalTrials.gov
T 1610807994 18<29schestowitz>just some PR stunt from the Crime Minister getting a jab
T 1610807996 18<29schestowitz>on TV
T 1610807998 18<29vZS1_2>https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04436471?term=Gamaleya&draw=2
T 1610807999 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06An Open Study of the Safety, Tolerability and Immunogenicity of the Drug "Gam-COVID-Vac" Vaccine Against COVID-19 - Full Text View - ClinicalTrials.gov
T 1610808004 18<29vZS1_2>https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04530396?term=Gam-COVID-Vac&draw=2
T 1610808005 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Clinical Trial of Efficacy, Safety, and Immunogenicity of Gam-COVID-Vac Vaccine Against COVID-19 - Full Text View - ClinicalTrials.gov
T 1610808016 18<29schestowitz>anyway, I'm back to RealWork(r)
T 1610808125 18<29vZS1_2>These are all from the U.S. National Library of Medicine
T 1610808130 18<29vZS1_2>Not some "NATURE" propaganda
T 1610808145 18<29vZS1_2>NATURE are already known to be a bunch of shills
T 1610808145 18<29schestowitz>not a single link from DVulgaris yet
T 1610808149 18<29schestowitz>an article
T 1610808156 18<29vZS1_2>Yeah because it's a lackey
T 1610808157 18<29schestowitz>just name-dropping the best known journal
T 1610808162 18<29schestowitz>which afaik is not corrupted yet (Nature)
T 1610808177 18<29schestowitz>links on Nature
T 1610808179 18<29schestowitz>maybe I missed it
T 1610808182 18<25DVulgaris>Moderna even released DART data
T 1610808185 18<29vZS1_2>No links
T 1610808185 18<29schestowitz>Lencet was corrupted
T 1610808189 18<29schestowitz>and people complaijned
T 1610808204 18<29schestowitz>vZS1_2: would be helpful to have any
T 1610808209 18<29schestowitz>a friend of mine publishes there
T 1610808215 18<29schestowitz>and has a high opinion of it
T 1610808227 18<29schestowitz>high factor/index too if you get published there
T 1610808245 18<29schestowitz>someone sent me this one 2 days ago https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-79310-1
T 1610808247 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.nature.com | Facial recognition technology can expose political orientation from naturalistic facial images | Scientific Reports
T 1610808251 18<29schestowitz>seems like they promote bad things
T 1610808254 18<29schestowitz>yeah, well...
T 1610808257 18<25DVulgaris>There you go
T 1610808258 18<29schestowitz>td;dr
T 1610808258 18<25DVulgaris>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRNA-1273#cite_note-:0-49
T 1610808259 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606en.wikipedia.org | mRNA-1273 - Wikipedia
T 1610808264 18<29schestowitz>you can guess based on image the race
T 1610808270 18<29schestowitz>and race correlates with politics
T 1610808274 18<25DVulgaris>Specifically:
T 1610808275 18<25DVulgaris>https://www.fda.gov/media/144434/download
T 1610808301 18<25DVulgaris>I mean the whole article is full of citations
T 1610808310 18<29schestowitz>https://covid-vaccine.canada.ca/moderna-covid-19-vaccine/product-details
T 1610808310 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606covid-vaccine.canada.ca | Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine (mRNA-1273 SARS-CoV-2) | COVID-19 vaccines and treatments portal
T 1610808315 18<25DVulgaris>Again, I can't be bothered to deal with science-deniers
T 1610808331 18<29schestowitz>Product description
T 1610808341 18<29schestowitz>Am I looking at the right citattion?
T 1610808348 18<29schestowitz>mind you, at FDA some people vetoed it
T 1610808354 18<29schestowitz>not sure how many, but not a few
T 1610808358 18<29schestowitz>lacking evidence
T 1610808364 18<29schestowitz>and this is a trump fda
T 1610808370 18<29schestowitz>which weeks prior loosened its standards
T 1610808379 18<29schestowitz>while trump tried to grab a german company for its paTENTS
T 1610808388 18<29schestowitz>this is still well documented in the press
T 1610808394 18<25DVulgaris>Fine, but that doesn't preclude the peer-review
T 1610808398 18<29schestowitz>[14:50] <DVulgaris> Again, I can't be bothered to deal with science-deniers \
T 1610808399 18<25DVulgaris>When they published in NJEM
T 1610808407 18<29schestowitz>Someone says he comes from the most corrupt country
T 1610808408 18<29schestowitz>with fake name
T 1610808411 18<29schestowitz>no creential
T 1610808416 18<29schestowitz>NO history in this IRC channel
T 1610808418 18<29vZS1_2>>DVulgaris Again, I can't be bothered to deal with science-deniers
T 1610808420 18<29schestowitz>and calls me science-denier
T 1610808423 18<29vZS1_2>Nice try, troll.
T 1610808427 18<29vZS1_2>Call us all science deniers
T 1610808434 18<29schestowitz>so go screw yourself with those rhetorics
T 1610808456 18<25DVulgaris>jeez
T 1610808460 18<25DVulgaris>Take it easy
T 1610808470 18<29vZS1_2>People who get vaccinated every year are clearly "science deniers"
T 1610808474 18<29vZS1_2>*claps*
T 1610808477 18<25DVulgaris>It's just a discussion about vaccines
T 1610808484 18<29schestowitz>I got many vaccination, next you'll say "antivaxxer"
T 1610808494 18<25DVulgaris>I didn't say that
T 1610808502 18<29schestowitz>You give me links to a products page
T 1610808505 18<29schestowitz>afaict
T 1610808507 18<29schestowitz>we cite papers
T 1610808512 18<29vZS1_2>You already called us "science deniers"
T 1610808516 18<29vZS1_2>That amounts to anti-vax
T 1610808517 18<29schestowitz>and we are the "Science-deniers"?
T 1610808522 18<29vZS1_2>Because vaccines are science
T 1610808542 18<29vZS1_2>We both take our vaccines and encourage everyone to do so
T 1610808548 18<29vZS1_2>Real, tested, vaccines
T 1610808557 18<25DVulgaris>There you go: https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/peer-reviewed-report-moderna-covid-19-vaccine-publishes
T 1610808557 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.nih.gov | Peer-reviewed report on Moderna COVID-19 vaccine publishes | National Institutes of Health (NIH)
T 1610808602 18<29schestowitz>[14:54] [Whois] DVulgaris is a user on channels: #techrights
T 1610808603 18<29schestowitz>new user
T 1610808607 18<29schestowitz>only one channel
T 1610808608 18<25DVulgaris>Here's the njem link: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2022483
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T 1610808612 18<29schestowitz>no history in this channel
T 1610808614 18<29schestowitz>name-calling
T 1610808619 18<29schestowitz>shilling products
T 1610808619 18<25DVulgaris>I'm new yh
T 1610808622 18<25DVulgaris>But trust me
T 1610808625 18<28MinceR>they could be on other channels, if those are +s or +p
T 1610808625 18<25DVulgaris>I'm no shill
T 1610808627 18<29schestowitz>what is one supposed rto deduce?
T 1610808631 18<28MinceR>iirc
T 1610808644 18<25DVulgaris>Also, mind you, you can find me in these channels:
T 1610808667 18<29vZS1_2>Right now all we have are TRIALS
T 1610808670 18<29vZS1_2>For every vaccine
T 1610808679 18<25DVulgaris>#sway #retroboot #libreboot #openwrt (among others)
T 1610808683 18<29vZS1_2>The reports don't come out until about the middle of this year
T 1610808689 18<25DVulgaris>Well, no shit
T 1610808695 18<25DVulgaris>It's all been rushed
T 1610808705 18<25DVulgaris>Cramming a decade into less than a year
T 1610808718 18<29vZS1_2>Twitler has censored Sputnik V
T 1610808729 18<25DVulgaris>That's a serious issue
T 1610808740 18<25DVulgaris>Even if I personally have some doubts about Sputnik V
T 1610808756 18<29schestowitz>[14:56] <DVulgaris> Cramming a decade into less than a year
T 1610808758 18<25DVulgaris>Just as censoring of Parler is damn scary
T 1610808764 18<29schestowitz>so scepticism is warranted
T 1610808773 18<25DVulgaris>Oh, I agree
T 1610808775 18<25DVulgaris>But again
T 1610808776 18<29schestowitz>[14:57] <DVulgaris> Even if I personally have some doubts about Sputnik Vs
T 1610808779 18<29schestowitz>so do I
T 1610808782 18<29schestowitz>and I mocked that too
T 1610808792 18<29vZS1_2>We have doubts about all the vaccines
T 1610808795 18<29vZS1_2>Because the trials aren't over
T 1610808795 18<29schestowitz>vaccination is also in general the best hope in some sense
T 1610808799 18<29schestowitz>but is sort of too late
T 1610808799 18<25DVulgaris>I personally think if it has not shown adverse effects so far - it's not worrying
T 1610808803 18<25DVulgaris>Also
T 1610808804 18<29schestowitz>like "contact tracing"
T 1610808805 18<25DVulgaris>Mind you
T 1610808808 18<29schestowitz>due to many cases already 'out there'
T 1610808811 18<29vZS1_2>We are saying that Sputnik V is being treated unfairly.
T 1610808820 18<29vZS1_2>Re: Twitter banning Sputnik V
T 1610808821 18<29schestowitz>and vaccine rollouts being too slow, with so-called 'vaccines' which we lack good data on
T 1610808824 18<29schestowitz>esp. longterm
T 1610808843 18<25DVulgaris>The mrna vaccines are "shitty" in that they won't probably give long-term immunity
T 1610808849 18<29schestowitz>[14:58] <DVulgaris> I personally think if it has not shown adverse effects so far - it's not worrying
T 1610808853 18<29schestowitz>Sputvik-V?
T 1610808859 18<29schestowitz>Oxford shows side effect
T 1610808863 18<29schestowitz>canned their experiment
T 1610808869 18<29schestowitz>(clinical trials around South Africa)
T 1610808871 18<25DVulgaris>That was predicted
T 1610808873 18<28MinceR>wasn't it said that even actual infection only gives less than a year of immunity?
T 1610808875 18<25DVulgaris>Very predicted
T 1610808886 18<29schestowitz>Moderna/Viagra warned about allergies
T 1610808890 18<25DVulgaris>Happened with every weakened/live virus SARS vaccine before
T 1610808892 18<29schestowitz>without specifying enough as to why
T 1610808897 18<25DVulgaris>That's why we didn't have any
T 1610808905 18<29schestowitz>Oxford/AZ only secretly told shareholders what had happened
T 1610808909 18<29schestowitz>hid it from the public
T 1610808913 18<25DVulgaris>I mean, the stronger the response - the stronger the immunity
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T 1610808922 18<29schestowitz>and now roll out again, want us to trust them despite this incident and secrecy
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T 1610808945 18<25DVulgaris>And anyone that knows anything about vacicnes and SARS viruses would have predicted that with the oxford vaccine
T 1610808952 18<29vZS1_2>We're "science deniers". We don't understand these things.
T 1610808974 18<29schestowitz>DVulgaris: are you an epidemiologist?
T 1610808978 18<25DVulgaris>But that excatly is why mrna vaccines are a good stop-gap measure
T 1610808980 18<29schestowitz>yes or no?
T 1610809000 18<29schestowitz>bbl
T 1610809006 18<25DVulgaris>schestowitz: Nope, but I study biotech in general - so there's that
T 1610809027 18<29schestowitz>I have a phd in medical biophysics
T 1610809035 18<29schestowitz>I saw how AZ bribes students
T 1610809038 18<29schestowitz>for 'research'
T 1610809044 18<28CrystalMath>DVulgaris: i actually prefer the chinese vaccine
T 1610809051 18<28CrystalMath>the CoronaVac
T 1610809055 18<29schestowitz>calling me science-denier is a screamer
T 1610809069 18<29schestowitz>the person who attacks science since the 70s is the biggest vaccine profiteer
T 1610809072 18<29schestowitz>maybe focus on him
T 1610809080 18<25DVulgaris>The one that hardly got a 50.4% efficacy in Brazil that is?
T 1610809083 18<29schestowitz>he never even finished college
T 1610809088 18<25DVulgaris>yh, I'll personally pass
T 1610809101 18<28CrystalMath>DVulgaris: i oppose the mRNA ones because they depend on proprietary technology
T 1610809114 18<28CrystalMath>except for the Sputnik-V, i guess
T 1610809117 18<25DVulgaris>That I can get behind CrystalMath
T 1610809139 18<25DVulgaris>I think it should be illegal to give control on those sequences like that
T 1610809152 18<25DVulgaris>Maybe just limit it to a decade or half a decade
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T 1610809194 18<25DVulgaris>Though, I think it can be argued that these aren't novel sequences since they do code for a spike protien that existed in the wild anyway
T 1610809214 18<25DVulgaris>Unless the virus was modified in a chinese lab - then I guess the chinese can sue
T 1610809218 18<25DVulgaris>That would be funny to watch
T 1610809258 18<25DVulgaris>Though, I personally think the most pressing issue currently is raising awareness of how lockdowns were and still are being abused
T 1610809259 18<28CrystalMath>*someone sneezes*
T 1610809261 18<28CrystalMath>hey! do you have a license to copy that virus?
T 1610809268 18<25DVulgaris>Everyone just copied china's model
T 1610809280 18<29vZS1_2>http://techrights.org/2018/03/04/patents-on-life-again/
T 1610809281 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Patents on Life Are a Cancer | Techrights
T 1610809285 18<28CrystalMath>DVulgaris: true
T 1610809288 18<25DVulgaris>CrystalMath: The absurdity of that situation is too realistic
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T 1610809306 18<28MinceR>16 160614 < CrystalMath> hey! do you have a license to copy that virus?
T 1610809307 18<28MinceR>lol
T 1610809313 18<25DVulgaris>Lots of countries abused tthese conditions to trample of civil liberties
T 1610809326 18<25DVulgaris>s/of/on
T 1610809344 18<29schestowitz>MinceR: Monsanto will sue
T 1610809353 18<29schestowitz>you contaminated a table with their "AYE PEE"
T 1610809376 18<29schestowitz>(Monsanto will sue the table, not you)
T 1610809429 18<28MinceR>they renamed themselves to Bayer after their parent since they've soiled the Monsanto name
T 1610809434 18<28MinceR>now they're soiling the Bayer name :)
T 1610809481 18<25DVulgaris>kek
T 1610809486 18<25DVulgaris>It's so sad though
T 1610809499 18<25DVulgaris>Because this technology holds so much potential
T 1610809510 18<25DVulgaris>And capitalists end up fucking it all up
T 1610809525 18<28techrights-bot>#IBM emeritus promotes the virtual or imaginary "asset" revolution (man-made 'wealth' or 'property'). This is pure comedy to me. What has our species sunk to?! https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/01/the-intangible-asset-revolutino.html
T 1610809525 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606blog.irvingwb.com | Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Intangible Asset Revolution
T 1610809560 18<29schestowitz>Bayer's name was already soiled, MinceR
T 1610809562 18<29schestowitz>nazi roots
T 1610809582 18<28MinceR>apparently not enough for them :>
T 1610809583 18<29schestowitz>BASF also
T 1610809696 18<28CrystalMath>Dr. Oetker, anyone?
T 1610809730 18<28CrystalMath>i thought of a (negative) slogan for them.... "Dr. Oetker... it's definitely not kosher..."
T 1610809752 18<28CrystalMath>(dark joke)
T 1610809764 18<29vZS1_2>schestowitz: btw, in the Intel video "grep": the g is "global" not "GNU". It comes from ed(1).
T 1610809775 18<29schestowitz>ah, thanks
T 1610809775 18<29vZS1_2>grep = global regular expression print
T 1610809778 18<29schestowitz>I was not sure about that
T 1610809789 18<29techrights-ipfs> ▕ IPFS downstream, 45 mins: ▆▄▅▅▅▆▇█▅▅▆▆▇▅▄▅▄▃▅▅▅▆▄▇▆▆▇▇█▄▅▆▅▄▆▅▆▅▄▅▃▄▅▆▅▅▄▆▅▅▆ ▕ IPFS upstream: ▄▂▃▆▅▂▃▃▂▂▆▄▂▄▂▂▃▄▂▂▃▃▃▃▃▃▃▂▂▃▂▂▃▃▄▃▂▂▂▃▄▃▃▂▃▂▂▃▄ ⟲
T 1610809790 18<29vZS1_2>No worries. Just clarifying.
T 1610809794 18<28CrystalMath>but i mean, perhaps these companies really did change
T 1610809798 18<28CrystalMath>even if they had nazi roots
T 1610809819 18<25DVulgaris>schestowitz: The nazi roots argument can be applied to a lot of companies
T 1610809842 18<28techrights-bot>#Gentoo 2020 in retrospect & happy new year 2021! • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146546 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1610809842 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Gentoo 2020 in retrospect & happy new year 2021! | Tux Machines
T 1610809847 18<25DVulgaris>Just off the top of my head: VW, Hugo BOSS, Mercedes...etc
T 1610809853 18<28MinceR>all public companies are required by law to be unscrupulous
T 1610809868 18<29schestowitz>[15:15] <vZS1_2> No worries. Just clarifying.
T 1610809869 18<28MinceR>afaik volkswagen is allied with microshit
T 1610809878 18<29schestowitz>15 years ago I used the global command a lot
T 1610809880 18<29schestowitz>not since then
T 1610809884 18<29schestowitz>but that is an aside
T 1610809885 18<25DVulgaris>MinceR: What do you mean?
T 1610809886 18<29schestowitz>also rep
T 1610809904 18<28MinceR>they're making wheeled deathtraps ("self-driving electric cars") together
T 1610809908 18<28MinceR>or developing
T 1610809915 18<25DVulgaris>Oh no
T 1610809920 18<25DVulgaris>Not the electric car meme
T 1610809924 18<29schestowitz>manpage: GNU grep 3.3 2018-05-11
T 1610809928 18<29schestowitz>so it's ggrep :-)(
T 1610809945 18<25DVulgaris>IDK when will it dawn on people that batteries have much lower battery density
T 1610809958 18<25DVulgaris>I truly think the future lies in synthetic fuels
T 1610809966 18<28MinceR>it could
T 1610809970 18<28MinceR>but it seems too early to tell
T 1610809972 18<25DVulgaris>Made in liquid thorium reactors
T 1610809976 18<29schestowitz>DVulgaris: Coca Cola also
T 1610809979 18<29schestowitz>"Fanta"
T 1610809981 18<25DVulgaris>Oh yeah
T 1610809989 18<25DVulgaris>Fantasie
T 1610809996 18<29schestowitz>http://techrights.org/2020/11/05/the-epo-orange-one/
T 1610809996 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | [Meme] António Campinos is the EPO’s ‘Fanta’ (Making EPO Fascism Seem Acceptable, Gentle, Caring and Kind) | Techrights
T 1610809998 18<25DVulgaris>I keep forgetting that one
T 1610809998 18<28MinceR>BEVs would need improvements in battery and charging technology
T 1610810008 18<28MinceR>synthetic fuels would need to be developed to be cost effective
T 1610810030 18<25DVulgaris>Synthetic fuels just need a cheap high-temp energy source
T 1610810038 18<28MinceR>hydrogen-based vehicles need a distribution system and even then, they're only likely to be worth doing for large commercial vehicles
T 1610810042 18<29schestowitz>GM: http://techrights.org/2020/10/24/militarised-elephants/
T 1610810043 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | The Militarised Elephant in the Room Still Commands a Lot of Free Software Development | Techrights
T 1610810052 18<25DVulgaris>Which is why if we get some new developments with nuclear power it might become a thing
T 1610810057 18<28MinceR>and all of these technologies need our power generation to be cleaned up
T 1610810066 18<25DVulgaris>Just go nuclear
T 1610810067 18<29schestowitz>and IBM, as noted above
T 1610810069 18<25DVulgaris>Closed loop
T 1610810069 18<28MinceR>none of them will save us if we mostly rely on fossil fuels to produce electricity
T 1610810072 18<29schestowitz>many US companies went along
T 1610810075 18<28MinceR>nuclear is expensive, though
T 1610810077 18<29vZS1_2>Things like `echo "g/regex/p" | ed file.txt` has saved my hide a few times.
T 1610810077 18<28MinceR>low EROI
T 1610810085 18<25DVulgaris>The problem with current reactors is they were optimized for making bombs
T 1610810088 18<25DVulgaris>Not power
T 1610810097 18<25DVulgaris>Nuclear should be very cheap
T 1610810115 18<25DVulgaris>But the US and USSR fucked it (and the world) over by prioritizing nukes
T 1610810121 18<25DVulgaris>It's depressing
T 1610810139 18<28MinceR>and in any case, i doubt any of this is sustainable with the population we have (which is still growing at a breakneck rate)
T 1610810140 18<25DVulgaris>The more you dig in it the more you realize how fucked up the world is
T 1610810142 18<29schestowitz>it's cheap until it leaks
T 1610810145 18<29schestowitz>ask japan
T 1610810158 18<29schestowitz>and you need a place to store this shit for many hundreds of years
T 1610810163 18<28MinceR>people keep suggesting that we should live like ascetics so that we can have additional billions of people suffer on this planet
T 1610810168 18<25DVulgaris>schestowitz: with a liquid or gas-based reactor the safety mechanisms are passive
T 1610810170 18<25DVulgaris>And
T 1610810173 18<25DVulgaris>Best of all
T 1610810174 18<28MinceR>quantity over quality
T 1610810178 18<25DVulgaris>it is closed-cycle
T 1610810182 18<29vZS1_2>Building nuclear power plants in an earthquake-and-tsunami-prone country isn't very clever. Is it?
T 1610810186 18<29schestowitz>MinceR: good for religious cults
T 1610810192 18<29schestowitz>every sperm spilled is a sin
T 1610810206 18<28MinceR>vZS1_2: i suppose it could depend on how big they are and what support systems they need
T 1610810210 18<28MinceR>schestowitz: :)
T 1610810213 18<29schestowitz>if only women had a million eggs for all the sperm of a man, for each time they have intercourse
T 1610810215 18<25DVulgaris>Which means almost no waste (we're talking in just a few Kgs after 50+ years)
T 1610810241 18<25DVulgaris>vZS1_2: They just wanted nukes
T 1610810246 18<28MinceR>vZS1_2: from what i've seen, some of the new fission reactor technologies are supposed to be workable at small scalex
T 1610810250 18<28MinceR>s/ex/es/
T 1610810253 18<29schestowitz>at least the Church thinks of the chidren
T 1610810259 18<25DVulgaris>Every single LWR is optimized gor nukes and not energy
T 1610810262 18<29schestowitz>if they cannot turn teh sperm into kids
T 1610810267 18<29schestowitz>then they spill the sperm on them
T 1610810274 18<25DVulgaris>The kids are improtant to them
T 1610810278 18<28MinceR>schestowitz: got to outbreed the competing cults
T 1610810283 18<29schestowitz>yup
T 1610810285 18<25DVulgaris>Because you need a new generation to brainwash
T 1610810291 18<29schestowitz>Islam is winning the race
T 1610810304 18<25DVulgaris>By being totalitarian
T 1610810306 18<29schestowitz>they are even cheaten
T 1610810307 18<29schestowitz>cheating
T 1610810310 18<29schestowitz>child marriage
T 1610810310 18<25DVulgaris>Seen it first hand :(
T 1610810313 18<28MinceR>if they'll suffer and starve or die in a war against the other cults (or just differently colored people), who cares?
T 1610810329 18<25DVulgaris>They believe they'll go to heaven in that case
T 1610810334 18<28MinceR>exactly
T 1610810336 18<25DVulgaris>How can you stop such dedication
T 1610810342 18<28MinceR>everyone is disposable to them
T 1610810347 18<25DVulgaris>Exaclt
T 1610810357 18<25DVulgaris>And they're totally fine with that
T 1610810359 18<25DVulgaris>Mind you
T 1610810360 18<29schestowitz>except themselves
T 1610810369 18<25DVulgaris>Even themselves
T 1610810376 18<25DVulgaris>I have many muslim friends
T 1610810380 18<25DVulgaris>They say it openly
T 1610810386 18<25DVulgaris>The collective is more important
T 1610810391 18<25DVulgaris>anything for allah
T 1610810393 18<25DVulgaris>basically
T 1610810418 18<29schestowitz>allah la land
T 1610810452 18<29schestowitz>I have a question
T 1610810458 18<29schestowitz>if you get 72 virgins
T 1610810462 18<29schestowitz>and you go through all of them
T 1610810466 18<25DVulgaris>Kek
T 1610810472 18<29schestowitz>they are no longer virgins
T 1610810475 18<25DVulgaris>Yh
T 1610810479 18<25DVulgaris>BTW
T 1610810483 18<28MinceR>:>
T 1610810488 18<25DVulgaris>It really might not be 72 virgins
T 1610810489 18<29schestowitz>if you blow them all up, will you go up to heaven of heaven and get 72 new ones?
T 1610810489 18<25DVulgaris>See
T 1610810495 18<25DVulgaris>In old Arabic
T 1610810498 18<28MinceR>see the Postal movie :>
T 1610810520 18<25DVulgaris>The same word was used for "virgin" and "crystal"
T 1610810530 18<25DVulgaris>So they might just be getting 72 crystals XD
T 1610810533 18<28MinceR>:>
T 1610810606 18<29schestowitz>useless
T 1610810608 18<25DVulgaris>BTW
T 1610810611 18<29schestowitz>what does that buy?
T 1610810618 18<25DVulgaris>Why does the website not work sometimes?
T 1610810623 18<25DVulgaris>schestowitz: IDK
T 1610810628 18<28MinceR>you can stick them in a DHD and get out of there :>
T 1610810632 18<25DVulgaris>They say wine is free in heaven
T 1610810634 18<25DVulgaris>So like
T 1610810636 18<29schestowitz>DVulgaris: which web site?
T 1610810639 18<25DVulgaris>IDK what'd they buy
T 1610810644 18<25DVulgaris>schestowitz: techrights
T 1610810657 18<25DVulgaris>Like, just 404s all over the place
T 1610810659 18<29schestowitz>can you give an example? I see no issues at my end.
T 1610810665 18<29schestowitz>let me check
T 1610810668 18<25DVulgaris>It's very sparodic
T 1610810683 18<25DVulgaris>It works now, but last week I couldn't get to it for example
T 1610810685 18<29schestowitz>can you give an example?
T 1610810688 18<29schestowitz>I cannot reproduce
T 1610810700 18<25DVulgaris>just trying https://www.techrights.org
T 1610810701 18<29schestowitz>and our links are very strictly maintained over time so that they neve rbreak
T 1610810703 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Welcome to Techrights
T 1610810717 18<29schestowitz>you try wrong protocol
T 1610810719 18<29schestowitz>use http
T 1610810722 18<25DVulgaris>Aha
T 1610810724 18<29schestowitz>maybe a browser plugin
T 1610810728 18<29schestowitz>or rogue browser
T 1610810730 18<25DVulgaris>HTTPS everywhere
T 1610810735 18<25DVulgaris>That's it
T 1610810739 18<29schestowitz>that decides what protocol is 'invalid'
T 1610810746 18<25DVulgaris>What still HTTP only though?
T 1610810747 18<29schestowitz>to reinforce monopolies
T 1610810756 18<29schestowitz>we need to upgrade the OS
T 1610810769 18<25DVulgaris>I see
T 1610810805 18<25DVulgaris>Explains why it works again this week, cuz I ditched HTTPS-everywhere (since FF now attempts to upgrade to HTTPS by default).
T 1610810816 18<29vZS1_2>schestowitz: DX = a bunch of political monkeys that harrass real engineers
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T 1610810856 18<29schestowitz>vZS1_2: DE
T 1610810860 18<29schestowitz>but X sounds better
T 1610810875 18<29schestowitz>like UX cultists
T 1610810880 18<29schestowitz>they always know better
T 1610810882 18<29schestowitz>remove this, that...
T 1610810889 18<29schestowitz>just keep a "back" button"
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T 1610810911 18<29schestowitz>and keep it simple, the users are all utterly dumb and don't need features... it confuses them
T 1610810939 18<29schestowitz>reduces r&d and testing costs
T 1610810946 18<29vZS1_2>At the start of 2020, there was a project that delegated coordination and mangement to me. (I didn't ask for it)
T 1610810946 18<29schestowitz>banking "apps" with two buttons
T 1610810954 18<29vZS1_2>I just made everyone use a kanban board
T 1610810960 18<29vZS1_2>And they used their own tools
T 1610810970 18<29vZS1_2>Everyone was happy
T 1610810974 18<29vZS1_2>We finished the project
T 1610810988 18<29vZS1_2>We coordinated over matrix
T 1610810992 18<29schestowitz>DX: let me send you a word document over gmail
T 1610810993 18<29schestowitz>.docx
T 1610810999 18<29schestowitz>with text in it
T 1610811002 18<29schestowitz>nothing else
T 1610811006 18<29schestowitz>no formatting
T 1610811020 18<29schestowitz>in an html email
T 1610811028 18<29vZS1_2>For interactive formatting, the project used Cryptpad. They decided on it themselves. I quite enjoyed Cryptpad.
T 1610811028 18<29schestowitz>with 10 prior emails tailed to it
T 1610811033 18<29schestowitz>100k total+attachment
T 1610811039 18<29schestowitz>for the text
T 1610811047 18<29schestowitz>open in your office suite
T 1610811049 18<29schestowitz>print out
T 1610811055 18<29schestowitz>sign
T 1610811055 18<25DVulgaris>Everything is just bloated nowadays
T 1610811058 18<25DVulgaris>IDK why
T 1610811058 18<29schestowitz>take photograph
T 1610811060 18<29schestowitz>reply
T 1610811063 18<29schestowitz>attach photo
T 1610811068 18<29schestowitz>over bluetooth
T 1610811076 18<29schestowitz>now we talk "PRODUCTIVITY!"
T 1610811085 18<29schestowitz>Your addition of a comma to your own code is APPROVED!
T 1610811139 18<29vZS1_2>Cryptpad is a nice tool
T 1610811151 18<29vZS1_2>I didn't hear of it until I worked on said project
T 1610811192 18<29schestowitz>etherpad is nice
T 1610811197 18<29schestowitz>Google tried to kill it
T 1610811199 18<29schestowitz>maybe it did
T 1610811206 18<29schestowitz>was a threat to lousy google docs
T 1610811219 18<29schestowitz>which is not (afaik) supporting simultaneous editors yet
T 1610811223 18<29vZS1_2>https://cryptpad.fr/
T 1610811224 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606cryptpad.fr | CryptPad: Zero Knowledge, Collaborative Real Time Editing
T 1610811235 18<29vZS1_2>Cryptpad supports simultaneous editors
T 1610811236 18<29schestowitz>maybe it's a fork?
T 1610811240 18<29vZS1_2>It's good for coordination.
T 1610811242 18<29vZS1_2>Idk if it's a fork
T 1610811256 18<29schestowitz>I geta blank page
T 1610811256 18<29vZS1_2>There's a poll, kanban, whiteboard
T 1610811280 18<29schestowitz>now it comes up
T 1610811282 18<29schestowitz>20 secs later
T 1610811292 18<29vZS1_2>Might be your connection
T 1610811303 18<29vZS1_2>Loads quick on my end
T 1610811319 18<29schestowitz>maybe it is based on etherpad
T 1610811329 18<29schestowitz>except afaik you cannot download the code for this and locally host
T 1610811331 18<29schestowitz>because CLOWN
T 1610811380 18<29schestowitz>maybe this is just etherpad clownified https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etherpad
T 1610811380 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606en.wikipedia.org | Etherpad - Wikipedia
T 1610811396 18<29schestowitz>LicenseApache License 2.0
T 1610811416 18<29schestowitz>Stable release 1.8.6 / 18 September 2020; 3 months ago
T 1610811420 18<29schestowitz>they need to deletegithub
T 1610811466 18<29vZS1_2>Etherpad is good software
T 1610811479 18<28techrights-bot>What we expect to come from Valve to help Linux gaming in 2021 | GamingOnLinux ⇨ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/what-we-expect-to-come-from-valve-to-help-linux-gaming-in-2021 •●• #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games #Gaming
T 1610811479 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06What we expect to come from Valve to help Linux gaming in 2021 | GamingOnLinux
T 1610811586 18<29vZS1_2>I let the team choose their own tools. It turned out well.
T 1610811618 18<28techrights-bot>Beast of a #Linux #Gaming Machine! #Slimbook Titan Launched With #AMD Ryzen 7 5800H and Nvidia RTX 3070 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146438#comment-27827
T 1610811618 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Slimbook reveal the Ryzen 7 and RTX 3070 powered Titan | Tux Machines
T 1610811693 18<29vZS1_2>Most of the hard work was getting people to maintain clean Git histories.
T 1610811696 18<29schestowitz>I am guessing they use etherpad somewher
T 1610811702 18<29schestowitz>not built from scratch
T 1610811707 18<29schestowitz>if you like it, self-host it
T 1610811719 18<29schestowitz>that french site could block access and start charging
T 1610811720 18<29vZS1_2>I will, if the need arises.
T 1610811725 18<29schestowitz>freemlium biz model
T 1610811732 18<29vZS1_2>I don't use Cryptpad anymore.
T 1610811734 18<29schestowitz>they don't do this thing as altruistic venture
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T 1610811748 18<29vZS1_2>I was just sharing experience
T 1610811749 18<29schestowitz>not sure what 'crypt' aboyt it
T 1610811762 18<29vZS1_2>Oh we didn't care about the crypt
T 1610811763 18<29schestowitz>crypto-insinuism
T 1610811773 18<29schestowitz>we're 'secure' or 'private' something
T 1610811835 18<29schestowitz>cryptoProtonQuantumsomething
T 1610811842 18<29schestowitz>very, very secure
T 1610811847 18<29schestowitz>even aliens can't crack it!
T 1610811881 18<29schestowitz>with literally tesla and einstein on the site logo
T 1610811932 18<29vZS1_2>DX is an imposition. It's a post held by lackeys from "upper management".
T 1610811955 18<29vZS1_2>You're [DX] not an engineer. Don't assume you know what needs to be done.
T 1610811975 18<29schestowitz>they always know better
T 1610811984 18<29schestowitz>geeks are stupid
T 1610811986 18<29schestowitz>and "ugly"
T 1610811994 18<29schestowitz>and they wear sandals and stuff
T 1610812024 18<29vZS1_2>Coordination and project management don't need "DX".
T 1610812040 18<29vZS1_2>It's one of those made-up titles and buzzwords. See it everywhere now.
T 1610812047 18<29schestowitz>they are middle managers
T 1610812055 18<29schestowitz>to make sure the geeks don't outwit the suits
T 1610812063 18<29schestowitz>keep the geeks humbled and scared
T 1610812087 18<29vZS1_2>We essentially the DX type infiltrating Free Software.
T 1610812092 18<29vZS1_2>Which is what I'm concerned about
T 1610812185 18<29vZS1_2>DX people love to concern troll
T 1610812196 18<29schestowitz>for the "users"
T 1610812202 18<29schestowitz>the geeks "don't understand"
T 1610812205 18<29schestowitz>they get the blame
T 1610812209 18<29schestowitz>they just do all the work
T 1610812211 18<29schestowitz>RMS
T 1610812216 18<29schestowitz>its his fault
T 1610812219 18<26psydroid>I think of it as something more sinister
T 1610812222 18<29schestowitz>that Free software isn't killing Microsoft
T 1610812229 18<29schestowitz>replace RMS, now look at the FSF
T 1610812234 18<29schestowitz>doing so much better, right?
T 1610812236 18<26psydroid>more like a war of business people on technical people
T 1610812250 18<29schestowitz>inferiority complex
T 1610812256 18<29schestowitz>seen it, been there, done that
T 1610812259 18<29schestowitz>had a boss like that
T 1610812260 18<29schestowitz>'boss'
T 1610812263 18<29schestowitz>I made a complaint
T 1610812265 18<29schestowitz>she got sacked
T 1610812283 18<29schestowitz>she only kept harassing those who did all the work
T 1610812290 18<29schestowitz>and some key staff handed in a notice
T 1610812299 18<29schestowitz>I was close to that, too
T 1610812304 18<29schestowitz>hence she was fired
T 1610812312 18<29vZS1_2>I still find it absurd that you kick out the founder of GNU and then some how make him the bad guy.
T 1610812314 18<29schestowitz>and the CEO was all cocky and apologetic to me
T 1610812323 18<29schestowitz>vZS1_2: not a new plan
T 1610812326 18<29schestowitz>wait, will show you
T 1610812345 18<25DVulgaris>I still don't get what the hell happened with the FSF
T 1610812352 18<25DVulgaris>Stinks of M$
T 1610812354 18<29schestowitz>http://techrights.org/2009/09/26/richard-stallman-smeared-for-truth/
T 1610812355 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Richard Stallman is Not the Bad Guy | Techrights
T 1610812358 18<29schestowitz>that was an early incident
T 1610812361 18<26psydroid>Microsoft needs the business people to side with them, because if they don't the technical people will win out and start ruling companies and eventually the whole world
T 1610812363 18<29schestowitz>GNOME Foundation
T 1610812364 18<29vZS1_2>RMS got backstabbed by people he trusted.
T 1610812371 18<29schestowitz>De Icaza (Microsoft) and Peters (Microsoft)
T 1610812374 18<29schestowitz>all those shills
T 1610812378 18<25DVulgaris>So
T 1610812385 18<25DVulgaris>They never let go (M$)
T 1610812389 18<29schestowitz>they end up working for the big bucks
T 1610812395 18<25DVulgaris>It's disgusting
T 1610812395 18<29schestowitz>the money is in attacking FS
T 1610812398 18<29schestowitz>not in promoting it
T 1610812408 18<29schestowitz>and they enter just to elevate themselves at companies like Microsoft
T 1610812423 18<29schestowitz>de Icaza even went for a job interview at Microsoft BEFORE he did GNOME
T 1610812430 18<29schestowitz>a warning sign right there
T 1610812432 18<29vZS1_2>I have always said that trust doesn't scale.
T 1610812447 18<29vZS1_2>RMS found that out the hard way
T 1610812477 18<29schestowitz>http://techrights.org/2009/09/24/zdnet-embeds-isc-anti-foss/
T 1610812478 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | ZDNet Embeds Placements for Anti-Free Software Companies | Techrights
T 1610812490 18<29schestowitz>http://techrights.org/2009/09/21/rms-on-miguel-de-icaza/
T 1610812491 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Miguel de Icaza “is Basically a Traitor to the Free Software Community,” Says Richard Stallman | Techrights
T 1610812505 18<29schestowitz>http://techrights.org/2009/07/17/fsf-vs-microsoft-community-promises/
T 1610812506 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Free Software Foundation Discourages Dependence on Mono, Dismisses Microsoft Community Promise | Techrights
T 1610812532 18<25DVulgaris>You know what's even more disgusting?
T 1610812550 18<29schestowitz>sputnikv
T 1610812551 18<25DVulgaris>M$ is trying to lock students into their systems
T 1610812565 18<25DVulgaris>We had to study C# at HS
T 1610812567 18<29schestowitz>techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EDGI
T 1610812577 18<29schestowitz>http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_ELMS
T 1610812578 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Microsoft ELMS - Techrights
T 1610812581 18<25DVulgaris>Mainly because M$ convinced the school admin and bribed them
T 1610812582 18<29schestowitz>odl tactics
T 1610812586 18<29schestowitz>digital druglords
T 1610812591 18<25DVulgaris>Exactly!
T 1610812594 18<29schestowitz>yes, bribes
T 1610812597 18<29schestowitz>those are expensive
T 1610812604 18<29schestowitz>they can't pull this off forever
T 1610812604 18<25DVulgaris>Not so
T 1610812606 18<25DVulgaris>Again
T 1610812618 18<25DVulgaris>I live in one of the most corrupt countries in the west
T 1610812618 18<29schestowitz>they've also bribed university profs since the 90s at least
T 1610812630 18<29schestowitz>when you let companies run by mafia-like minds have that much power...
T 1610812643 18<29schestowitz>multiple-time-convicted, too
T 1610812651 18<25DVulgaris>With the PM still being in office while it is widely known he accepted bribes time and time again
T 1610812661 18<29schestowitz>Crime Minister
T 1610812668 18<25DVulgaris>The political state of the west is laughable TBh
T 1610812672 18<29schestowitz>weaponising COVID
T 1610812675 18<25DVulgaris>s/TBh/TBH
T 1610812682 18<26psydroid>a university professor at one of my faculties is a Microsoft employee
T 1610812684 18<28MinceR>the east is no better
T 1610812695 18<29schestowitz>psydroid: typical
T 1610812703 18<25DVulgaris>psydroid: M$ and Intel funded "study spaces" at my uni
T 1610812707 18<29schestowitz>sometimes they pass bribes by sponsoring "a lab"
T 1610812711 18<25DVulgaris>Basically free advertising
T 1610812723 18<25DVulgaris>Thankfully though
T 1610812734 18<25DVulgaris>The IT admin are very much FOSS supporters
T 1610812742 18<25DVulgaris>All the backend systems run debian
T 1610812745 18<26psydroid>DVulgaris: we may be students at the same university ... but let's leave that aside
T 1610812751 18<25DVulgaris>huh
T 1610812767 18<25DVulgaris>Yh, I might be saying too much
T 1610812783 18<29vZS1_2>schestowitz: the lack of ports and peripheral support you mentioned in the latest Intel leaks video is only getting worse in schools. Many schools around the world are buying Chromebooks that barely have peripheral support.
T 1610812786 18<26psydroid>it bothers me, though
T 1610812801 18<26psydroid>I left industry to go back to university to escape these companies
T 1610812812 18<25DVulgaris>And they're going after you basically
T 1610812814 18<25DVulgaris>:(
T 1610812818 18<26psydroid>and then I find out they infiltrated my own university
T 1610812820 18<29vZS1_2>Chromebooks are Google's attempt to turn laptops into another app interface.
T 1610812826 18<25DVulgaris>Anyhow, I gtg for a bit
T 1610812850 18<29vZS1_2>Like the Amazon Swindle
T 1610812906 18<29schestowitz>[16:04] <vZS1_2> schestowitz: the lack of ports and peripheral support you mentioned in the latest Intel leaks video is only getting worse in schools. Many schools around the world are buying Chromebooks that barely have peripheral support.
T 1610812910 18<29schestowitz>what's a peripheral?
T 1610812914 18<29schestowitz>"ipod" ?
T 1610812922 18<29schestowitz>buy the latest!
T 1610812929 18<29schestowitz>it will do wireless magic
T 1610812931 18<29schestowitz>even charging
T 1610812938 18<29schestowitz>wires begone
T 1610812950 18<29schestowitz>do backups of 100GB to the clown over bluetooth
T 1610813003 18<29schestowitz>[16:06] <vZS1_2> Like the Amazon Swindle
T 1610813011 18<29schestowitz>2 days ago I saw a headline about Swindle
T 1610813015 18<29schestowitz>they have a new edition of it
T 1610813019 18<29schestowitz>with "CLOWN" in its name
T 1610813026 18<29schestowitz>something like "Kindle Cloud"
T 1610813028 18<29schestowitz>Cannot recall
T 1610813030 18<29schestowitz>it's amazing
T 1610813033 18<29schestowitz>DRM not enough
T 1610813042 18<29schestowitz>not they want to also store the data remotely
T 1610813071 18<29schestowitz>not to just delete it remotely OFF your devices, as they did a decades ago with "copies" of ''1984'
T 1610813342 18<29vZS1_2>Couldn't have picked a better title. lol
T 1610813389 18<29techrights-ipfs> ▕ IPFS downstream, 45 mins: ▃▅▅▅▄▅▅▅▆▅▅▅█▅▄█▅▄▅▅▅▄▅▅▆▇▅▄▄▅▇▆▅▆▆▅▆▇▅▅▆▇▆▅▂▆▅▅ ▕ IPFS upstream: ▃▃▄▄▄▃▂▃▄▄▃▄▃▃▄▂▃▃▂▃▃▁▃▄▃▁▂▅▄▃▃▂▂▃▁▂▂▂▄▃▃▅▆▃▄▂▃▃▂▁▃▃▄▂ ⟲
T 1610813524 18<29schestowitz>eventually they want to render all devices mere terminals
T 1610813530 18<29schestowitz>or "edges" as they increasingly call them
T 1610813532 18<29schestowitz>or "iot"
T 1610813536 18<29schestowitz>"Smart"
T 1610813545 18<29schestowitz>1) get the app
T 1610813549 18<29schestowitz>2) press OK to all
T 1610813554 18<29schestowitz>3) connect to wireless
T 1610813566 18<29schestowitz>4) set to auto-update remotely
T 1610813577 18<29schestowitz>5) get license to get cached 'content'
T 1610813583 18<29schestowitz>(over DRM of course)
T 1610813595 18<29schestowitz>6) after EoL, get a new terminal
T 1610813604 18<29schestowitz>then go back to (1)
T 1610813630 18<29schestowitz>today Nationwide sent us a card reader
T 1610813637 18<29schestowitz>the one used just for login to the site
T 1610813638 18<29vZS1_2>A friend of mine brought to my attention something called Google Stadia.
T 1610813642 18<29vZS1_2>So now you have
T 1610813644 18<29schestowitz>plastic with battery
T 1610813644 18<29vZS1_2>Clown gaming
T 1610813645 18<29vZS1_2>TM
T 1610813652 18<29schestowitz>when the batteries run out you cannot replace them
T 1610813659 18<29schestowitz>you cannot even open them to swap battery
T 1610813671 18<29schestowitz>they tell you to throw it away and get the new/latest one
T 1610813696 18<29schestowitz>[16:19] <vZS1_2> A friend of mine brought to my attention something called Google Stadia.
T 1610813703 18<29schestowitz>and they tell me I use too much with ipfs ;-)
T 1610813705 18<29schestowitz>(they did not)
T 1610813714 18<29schestowitz>let's stream 1060p
T 1610813718 18<29schestowitz>with sound, too
T 1610813725 18<29schestowitz>for playing a f-ing game
T 1610813735 18<29vZS1_2>yep
T 1610813736 18<29schestowitz>who needs low-ping games that circulate location
T 1610813742 18<29schestowitz>send the whole f'ing frame buffer
T 1610813746 18<29schestowitz>during lockdown
T 1610813748 18<29vZS1_2>yep
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T 1610813762 18<29schestowitz>google will try to pull off some profits
T 1610813764 18<29schestowitz>then kil,
T 1610813769 18<29schestowitz>kill the whole thing
T 1610813769 18<29vZS1_2>It won't last
T 1610813773 18<29schestowitz>like buzz and Google+
T 1610813782 18<29vZS1_2>I know several people that laughed at the concept (non-tech people)
T 1610813784 18<29schestowitz>and throw game devs under the bus
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T 1610813800 18<29schestowitz>lockdowns can kill it
T 1610813803 18<29schestowitz>more gamers
T 1610813809 18<29schestowitz>but congested networks
T 1610813816 18<29schestowitz>with that VPN crap of netclown
T 1610813852 18<29vZS1_2>Google want people to have shitty computers at home and use their clown for everything.
T 1610813854 18<29vZS1_2>It's obvious.
T 1610813881 18<29schestowitz>the company IS the computer
T 1610813888 18<29schestowitz>you are just paying for the terminal
T 1610813895 18<29vZS1_2>Yeah. Basically a UI
T 1610813895 18<29schestowitz>like that "card reader" we get... for 'free'
T 1610813905 18<29schestowitz>made to be disposable... in mainland China
T 1610813906 18<29vZS1_2>All you get is a UI
T 1610813910 18<29schestowitz>low batteries? Throw away
T 1610813916 18<29schestowitz>cheaper to pay for stamps
T 1610813924 18<29schestowitz>worry about the metal and plastic later
T 1610813995 18<29vZS1_2>A post around Google Stadia and Chromebooks would be quite OT for TR
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T 1610814007 18<29vZS1_2>With some new statistics, once we find some
T 1610814056 18<29vZS1_2>Schools in particular are jumping out of the pan and into the fire
T 1610814057 18<29schestowitz>I mentioned DRM recently
T 1610814060 18<29vZS1_2>MSFT to Google
T 1610814064 18<29schestowitz>even did a video about it
T 1610814089 18<29vZS1_2>I was meaning more in sense of taking away computing power from people
T 1610814091 18<29schestowitz>http://techrights.org/2020/12/05/gnu-linux-and-gamers/
T 1610814092 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Bringing DRM to GNU/Linux to Attract the Stereotypical ‘Gamers’ | Techrights
T 1610814102 18<29schestowitz>http://techrights.org/2020/12/19/linux-drm-not-inevitable/
T 1610814103 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | If Azure is Collapsing and Clown Computing a Passing Fad, Why Can’t DRM Go Away as Well? | Techrights
T 1610814130 18<29schestowitz>[16:26] <vZS1_2> I was meaning more in sense of taking away computing power from people
T 1610814138 18<29schestowitz>That's what the US Army would like
T 1610814143 18<29schestowitz>the world as a guest of the US
T 1610814148 18<29schestowitz>they used to sell hardware
T 1610814154 18<29schestowitz>now it's all made in CHina
T 1610814166 18<29schestowitz>so they can at least wire all that hardware to the US infra
T 1610814173 18<29schestowitz>and then leverage that power
T 1610814187 18<29schestowitz>as they do with Twitter and FB censorship
T 1610814207 18<29schestowitz>like throwing rhe nazi under the bus in time for inauguration of a "lesser evil"
T 1610814222 18<29schestowitz>"celebrate peasants!"
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T 1610814863 18<26psydroid><vZS1_2 "Google want people to have shitt"> And then people become addicted to the clown... who will rip their limbs off, as soon as he gets the chance
T 1610814883 18<26psydroid>(I watched the remake of the movie based on Stephen King's It last year)
T 1610815163 18<29schestowitz>I still remember software "suites"
T 1610815172 18<29schestowitz>many features in them
T 1610815176 18<29schestowitz>povray, blender3d
T 1610815180 18<29schestowitz>now we have "apps"
T 1610815186 18<29schestowitz>"we" as in many people
T 1610815227 18<29schestowitz>the only explanations I have include lowering R&D costs, eliminating software versatility (also lowers costs associated with making and keeping up to date the documentation)
T 1610815252 18<29schestowitz>the users become the data brokers
T 1610815267 18<29schestowitz>with all these "data sciency" interfaces
T 1610815273 18<29schestowitz>and people are just... data
T 1610815287 18<29schestowitz>or "user-generated content" (creators)
T 1610815290 18<29schestowitz>serfs basically
T 1610815315 18<29schestowitz>this is how mozilla now views firefox users
T 1610815324 18<29schestowitz>do I don't wan to be one anymore
T 1610815468 18<28techrights-bot>Cheers! Wine 6.0 Released with Improved Support for Windows Games and Software on Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146470#comment-27828 #gnu #linux #wine #games
T 1610815468 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 6.0 Officially Released with Vulkan Backend for WineD3D, This Is What’s New | Tux Machines
T 1610815586 18<28techrights-bot>Was: "How Jason A. Donenfeld created secure VPN WireGuard, included in Linux" https://www.businessinsider.com/wireguard-jason-a-donenfeld-profile-secure-vpn-linux-mac-windows-2021-1?r=US&IR=T
T 1610815587 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.businessinsider.com | How Jason A. Donenfeld created secure VPN WireGuard, included in Linux - Business Insider
T 1610815802 18<28techrights-bot>Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146547 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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T 1610816125 18<29schestowitz>Just checked if she's still around https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uch0FlNo3Go
T 1610816126 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Charlotte Church - Ave Maria (Dormition Abbey 2000) - YouTube
T 1610816131 18<29schestowitz>seems like she still performs
T 1610816136 18<29schestowitz>but hardly progressed since
T 1610816140 18<29schestowitz>no more "young talent"
T 1610816145 18<29schestowitz>just forgotten talent
T 1610816193 18<26psydroid>I read she ruined her voice by singing in technically the wrong way
T 1610816216 18<29schestowitz>the new songs suck
T 1610816218 18<29schestowitz>I just checked
T 1610816232 18<29schestowitz>suddenly I thought, where is she today?
T 1610816248 18<29schestowitz>the new ones are like "pop" crap
T 1610816261 18<29schestowitz>maybe living off the old brand she had gained around 20 years ago
T 1610816362 18<29schestowitz>hm... spam https://hub.packtpub.com/sql-server-linux-from-blog-posts-sqlservercentral/
T 1610816363 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606hub.packtpub.com | SQL Server Linux from Blog Posts - SQLServerCentral | Packt Hub
T 1610816445 18<26psydroid>I can hear what you just said, she is singing Disney songs now
T 1610816458 18<29schestowitz>ludicrous
T 1610816461 18<29schestowitz>lost the class
T 1610816465 18<29schestowitz>fancy videos
T 1610816477 18<29schestowitz>with pop/kpop style footage
T 1610816480 18<29schestowitz>not sclassical
T 1610816496 18<29schestowitz>drumbeats and stuff
T 1610816511 18<29schestowitz>maybe trying to blend in with the "content" cartel to stay relevant
T 1610816515 18<29schestowitz>she must be about 35 now
T 1610816553 18<26psydroid>I think it's not voluntary, but more a case that she either moved or got left behind forever
T 1610816679 18<29schestowitz>sometimes they fall shy of expectation of distribution cartel
T 1610816688 18<29schestowitz>like, they express certain political views
T 1610816692 18<29schestowitz>and then fall from grace
T 1610816700 18<29schestowitz>and they opt for younger and "sexier" ones
T 1610816714 18<29schestowitz>who lack a political view or too afraid to use their name to express it
T 1610816791 18<29schestowitz>case of point: jk rowling
T 1610816820 18<28techrights-bot>#Python PIP Complete guide • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146548 •●• #programming
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T 1610816826 18<26psydroid>I admit I've never read any of her books
T 1610816875 18<29schestowitz>Fiction
T 1610816881 18<29schestowitz>and based on fantasies
T 1610816882 18<29schestowitz>afaik
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T 1610817286 18<26psydroid>I notice there is more of a disconnect between what young people know and listen to and what I find interesting
T 1610817300 18<26psydroid>even though my taste hasn't departed significantly from what it was 20-30 years ago, it just got expanded, which is normal as you get older
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T 1610818835 18<29Ariadne>the story of jk rowling is a bit more complicated than that
T 1610818852 18<29Ariadne>she was radicalized on social control media with transphobic ideology
T 1610818860 18<29Ariadne>it is sad for everyone involved
T 1610818868 18<29schestowitz>social control media si toxic
T 1610818870 18<29Ariadne>however, it is positive that such ideology was rejected
T 1610818871 18<25DVulgaris>Yeah, I never got what got her into that
T 1610818874 18<29schestowitz>she should have kept off it
T 1610818877 18<25DVulgaris>TERFs and all
T 1610818878 18<29schestowitz>or "write only"
T 1610818881 18<25DVulgaris>Weird shit
T 1610818910 18<29Ariadne>well, transphobia is just the homophobia of this century, and like homophobia is linked to white supremacy
T 1610818927 18<25DVulgaris>The only thing I don't get
T 1610818928 18<28CrystalMath>how is homophobia linked to white supremacy?
T 1610818942 18<29schestowitz>transphobia and homophobia are less common in "white" countries
T 1610818943 18<28CrystalMath>there's a lot of homophobia outside white culture
T 1610818946 18<25DVulgaris>Is why are suicide rates still high even for post-op trans people
T 1610818950 18<29schestowitz>so there's another angle to it
T 1610818960 18<25DVulgaris>I think that the current research is missing something
T 1610818961 18<28CrystalMath>actually, transphobia is more common in white countries than in asia, but homophobia is more common in asia
T 1610818964 18<25DVulgaris>And it is very sad
T 1610818965 18<29schestowitz>good luck as trans or gay in a country that is not white
T 1610818969 18<28CrystalMath>it's different
T 1610818969 18<29schestowitz>might not even survive one day
T 1610818972 18<25DVulgaris>CrystalMath: Depends where in asia
T 1610818976 18<28CrystalMath>schestowitz: it's easy to be trans in iran
T 1610818980 18<28CrystalMath>they fund your transition
T 1610818987 18<28CrystalMath>but if you're gay, you get killed
T 1610818989 18<25DVulgaris>CrystalMath: That's because they're Shia
T 1610818994 18<29Ariadne>CrystalMath: its the same broken thought process
T 1610818994 18<25DVulgaris>Sunnis are much much worse
T 1610819002 18<25DVulgaris>They'll kill them anyway
T 1610819012 18<29Ariadne>anyway, bigotry of any kind should be rejected
T 1610819015 18<25DVulgaris>Shia are generally "lighter"
T 1610819026 18<25DVulgaris>But the West is allied with Sunnis
T 1610819027 18<25DVulgaris>So
T 1610819029 18<25DVulgaris>...
T 1610819054 18<25DVulgaris>Don't get me wrong though
T 1610819057 18<25DVulgaris>Both are shit
T 1610819061 18<29Ariadne>suicide rate with trans people is largely driven by lack of opportunity
T 1610819073 18<25DVulgaris>And discrimination I think
T 1610819082 18<25DVulgaris>More like isolation probably
T 1610819087 18<28CrystalMath>it's possible that dysphoria is permanent
T 1610819103 18<25DVulgaris>It can be permanent in other cases
T 1610819106 18<28CrystalMath>and the trauma of being born in the wrong body is unrecoverable
T 1610819112 18<29Ariadne>it is mostly the discrimination
T 1610819122 18<25DVulgaris>Exactly
T 1610819141 18<25DVulgaris>I think the "permanent dysphoria" is just a minority
T 1610819163 18<29Ariadne>trans people, even "passing" post-op trans people are at risk of having their career destroyed at any time
T 1610819186 18<29Ariadne>if only white men were in such a situation (oh wait, that's why they hate #MeToo)
T 1610819205 18<28CrystalMath>Ariadne: you should never wish for anyone else to be in such a situation
T 1610819208 18<28CrystalMath>i *really* hate that
T 1610819211 18<29Ariadne>i don't
T 1610819233 18<28CrystalMath>and i am proud of myself, that many times i have suffered an injustice, i *never* wished for someone else to suffer it too
T 1610819239 18<29Ariadne>i am just saying that trans people do not know the same level of career stability that white men do.
T 1610819300 18<29Ariadne>and, white men hate #MeToo for this reason: it places their career stability at risk
T 1610819314 18<28CrystalMath>i hate #MeToo because it's unfair
T 1610819320 18<28CrystalMath>i don't think it places career stability at risk
T 1610819332 18<28CrystalMath>or at least, i don't think that far, when something is unfair, it deserves to be hated
T 1610819336 18<28CrystalMath>just by its principle
T 1610819347 18<29Ariadne>you don't? because #MeToo has certainly demolished a lot of careers
T 1610819361 18<29Ariadne>and i have had people tell me "they hope they don't get #MeToo'd"
T 1610819363 18<25DVulgaris>It just reverses what is accepted in terms of justice
T 1610819368 18<28CrystalMath>similarly, i'm opposed to all kinds of discrimination, even reverse discrimination
T 1610819376 18<25DVulgaris>One should be innocent until proven guilty
T 1610819381 18<25DVulgaris>Not the other way around
T 1610819390 18<28CrystalMath>absolutely! the presumption of innocence is the most important thing
T 1610819390 18<25DVulgaris>I mean, look at what they've done to RMS
T 1610819398 18<29schestowitz>what is metoo in this context?
T 1610819408 18<28CrystalMath>the most important thing ever, and it must apply to EVERY court, even the court of public opinion
T 1610819409 18<29schestowitz>I think someone mistakes it for affirmative action and quotas
T 1610819412 18<29schestowitz>not the same thing at all
T 1610819419 18<29Ariadne>i think what happened to RMS is bullshit, but he could have more eloquently defended Minsky (who was one of my favorite professors)
T 1610819438 18<25DVulgaris>Ariadne: I think he's just on the autism spectrum
T 1610819454 18<29Ariadne>yes, but even autistics can learn to react tactically
T 1610819467 18<25DVulgaris>True
T 1610819469 18<29schestowitz>his reaction was not bad
T 1610819473 18<29schestowitz>reaction to his email was bad
T 1610819476 18<29schestowitz>and based on lying pieces
T 1610819476 18<28CrystalMath>honestly, there's nothing that RMS said that was bad
T 1610819477 18<29Ariadne>it was not great
T 1610819478 18<29schestowitz>like sjvn's
T 1610819485 18<28CrystalMath>he's totally right about everything
T 1610819494 18<29schestowitz>people seeing headlines like this http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/sjvn-senior-moment/
T 1610819495 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | One Year Later Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols’ Libel Against Richard Stallman Remains Online and Uncorrected at ZDNet | Techrights
T 1610819501 18<29schestowitz>he reaction to his reaction wasn't too bad
T 1610819502 18<28CrystalMath>i mean people should realize that the AoC is not greater than 17 in 95% of the world
T 1610819509 18<29schestowitz>he apologised to those who misunderstood
T 1610819519 18<29schestowitz>but people kept flinging libel at him
T 1610819527 18<29Ariadne>schestowitz: i am subscribed to the list in question. he said some things that were taken out of context, because he did not think through what he wanted to say before saying it.
T 1610819532 18<29schestowitz>like this http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/the-fake-door-sign/
T 1610819532 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | The Fake ‘Door Sign’ Used to Frame Richard Stallman and Misrepresent Him One Year Ago (the Media Never Corrected This Slanderous Allegation) | Techrights
T 1610819536 18<28CrystalMath>Ariadne: like what?
T 1610819543 18<29schestowitz>They never even deleted any of these defamatory "tweets"
T 1610819559 18<29schestowitz>because they had gone "viral" and earned them points (for libel)
T 1610819574 18<29Ariadne>well, for one, he argued that even if Minsky accepted the massage and happy ending from an underage girl on Epstein's private island, that this is fine because it wasn't a little kid
T 1610819579 18<29schestowitz>CrystalMath: yes, i want to see examples, too
T 1610819602 18<29schestowitz>he did not say this
T 1610819605 18<29schestowitz>that I know of
T 1610819611 18<29Ariadne>he did
T 1610819611 18<28CrystalMath>yeah he really didn't say it like that
T 1610819614 18<29schestowitz>unless there are messages that were not published
T 1610819621 18<29Ariadne>i am paraphrasing, but
T 1610819621 18<29schestowitz>show me with a link
T 1610819629 18<29schestowitz>I need to see the oroiginal
T 1610819637 18<28CrystalMath>i think RMS's point was that he could have thought she was 18 easily
T 1610819641 18<29schestowitz>he had said in his blog things about 16 year olds having sex
T 1610819643 18<29Ariadne>yes, i get that
T 1610819648 18<29schestowitz>which is legal in most states by the way
T 1610819650 18<28CrystalMath>schestowitz: which is legal in 90% of the world
T 1610819652 18<29schestowitz>in italy they go even lower
T 1610819655 18<29Ariadne>anyway
T 1610819661 18<28CrystalMath>in china they go lower (14)
T 1610819664 18<28CrystalMath>in most of europe
T 1610819665 18<29Ariadne>the point is, he reacted emotionally
T 1610819668 18<28CrystalMath>all of latin america
T 1610819677 18<29Ariadne>instead of writing a thought out response
T 1610819692 18<29schestowitz>the response the media attacked him for was distorted
T 1610819698 18<29schestowitz>he made a few valid point
T 1610819703 18<29schestowitz>some that might upset someone
T 1610819708 18<29schestowitz>not that it's a crime to upset someone
T 1610819726 18<29schestowitz>esp. picking on or nitpicking the term "assault"
T 1610819736 18<29Ariadne>anyway, i find it unlikely that Minsky even accepted the massage + happy ending offer
T 1610819739 18<25DVulgaris>Though, in the eyes of the mob
T 1610819743 18<29schestowitz>the worst media did was spin the word "willing"
T 1610819746 18<25DVulgaris>It is a crime to upset someone
T 1610819749 18<28CrystalMath>DVulgaris: the mob is STUPID, i talked to them
T 1610819763 18<25DVulgaris>The mob is stupid - by definition
T 1610819763 18<29schestowitz>Ariadne: his wife denies it
T 1610819766 18<29schestowitz>posthumously
T 1610819769 18<28CrystalMath>they actually did not know that in 70% of the world a 90yo can legally have sex with a 15yo
T 1610819771 18<29schestowitz>and she's a person of honour
T 1610819774 18<29Ariadne>well, of course she would :P
T 1610819775 18<29schestowitz>but who knows...
T 1610819780 18<28CrystalMath>when i showed them proof they shut up
T 1610819788 18<29Ariadne>anyway, something that made it worse for RMS is
T 1610819795 18<29Ariadne>that response pissed off some allies of Minsky
T 1610819809 18<29schestowitz>CrystalMath: I think she was 17 at the time, can't remember though
T 1610819809 18<25DVulgaris>Though, I will note that the US still has these crazy puritan views on a lot of things
T 1610819821 18<29schestowitz>and if she was a 18-y-o student of his from MIT, then fine?
T 1610819823 18<28CrystalMath>schestowitz: yeah, that would make it 95% of the world
T 1610819825 18<29Ariadne>because instead of just saying the truth -- that no such offer was accepted, he tried to defend accepting such an offer that was never accepted in the first place
T 1610819840 18<28CrystalMath>DVulgaris: even in the US, in 80% of it, it's fine
T 1610819854 18<25DVulgaris>I know
T 1610819858 18<29Ariadne>so it was offensive from multiple angles
T 1610819870 18<29Ariadne>first, he threw Minsky under the bus while trying to defend him
T 1610819879 18<29schestowitz>he did not
T 1610819885 18<29schestowitz>it was a hypothetical statement
T 1610819895 18<29schestowitz>anyway, they lost sight of the Gates scandal
T 1610819896 18<28CrystalMath>personally i consider the AoC to be a hard limit, and people should generally go for higher themselves
T 1610819900 18<29schestowitz>I even told RMS a week earlier
T 1610819901 18<29Ariadne>yes, well, it was a hypothetical statement that many people took as him throwing Minsky under the bus
T 1610819906 18<28CrystalMath>but the law only goes after people who cross that line
T 1610819914 18<29schestowitz>that it looked to me like a distraction from Billie Goat
T 1610819936 18<29schestowitz>Bill did vastly worse things
T 1610819944 18<29schestowitz>than what Minsky was ACCUSED fo doing
T 1610819952 18<29schestowitz>RMS was never the scandal
T 1610819958 18<29schestowitz>he wrote an email about a mate who had died
T 1610819966 18<29schestowitz>and could not defend himself directly
T 1610819974 18<29schestowitz>so it's totally ludicrous
T 1610819983 18<29schestowitz>http://techrights.org/2020/01/10/gates-sponsored-mit/
T 1610819983 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Massachusetts Institute of Tall Tales (MIT) Covers Up Bill Gates Bribery of MIT Through a High-Profile Pedophile, Citing No Evidence Other Than Representatives of Gates Himself | Techrights
T 1610819988 18<29Ariadne>well anyway, it was an emotionally charged situation regardless
T 1610819999 18<29schestowitz>http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/
T 1610820000 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Speaking Through Spokespeople is a Sign of Weakness, Such as Non-Denying and False Denials (or: Bill Gates Never Denied His Connections to MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein) | Techrights
T 1610820001 18<29Ariadne>sometimes leadership requires that you think about things before doing them
T 1610820009 18<29schestowitz>http://techrights.org/2020/08/11/whistleblower-aid-gates-mit-epstein/
T 1610820010 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Whistleblower Aid Already Showed Cover-up of Bill Gates ‘Contributions’ to MIT | Techrights
T 1610820016 18<29Ariadne>yes yes, bill gates, blah blah blah
T 1610820030 18<29schestowitz>http://techrights.org/2020/05/27/joi-ito-email/
T 1610820031 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Joi Ito Already Admitted on the Record That Bill Gates Had Paid MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein | Techrights
T 1610820039 18<29schestowitz>Ariadne: it's a bit deal
T 1610820046 18<29Ariadne>why would bill gates pay MIT through epstein
T 1610820050 18<29schestowitz>belittling it like josh gay did isn't helping
T 1610820050 18<28CrystalMath>i suppose he did kinda throw Minsky under the bus, but we should be coaching RMS to be a little less protective of people, not mroe
T 1610820060 18<29schestowitz>controbutes to the idea that FSF wants to throw its own founder under a buss
T 1610820069 18<29schestowitz>while helping to cover up for real villains
T 1610820074 18<29Ariadne>CrystalMath: i have no objection to his intent there, just the way in which he did it
T 1610820078 18<28CrystalMath>people have been bothering RMS about this stuff for decades
T 1610820092 18<29schestowitz>Ariadne: the timing matters
T 1610820098 18<29Ariadne>and, as i've said, i think it is bullshit that they went after him for *that*
T 1610820101 18<29Ariadne>anyway
T 1610820101 18<29schestowitz>the media connected to Gates' friend started off the mob lyncg
T 1610820105 18<28CrystalMath>he's been surrounded by these crazy puritans, telling him that women need to be protected just because they're women (which is anti-gender equality)
T 1610820111 18<29schestowitz>a week or so after the media was after Gates over the MIT thing
T 1610820117 18<28CrystalMath>and over time he accepted some of their insane views
T 1610820121 18<29Ariadne>(1) why would bill gates give money to MIT through a third party (Epstein) ?
T 1610820125 18<29schestowitz>http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/police-report-bill-gates/
T 1610820126 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Mansion of Pedophilia – Part II: Dr. Stallman Defamed in the Media One Day After Request Made for King County Sheriff’s Office to Divulge Information About Pedophilia in Home of Bill Gates | Techrights
T 1610820130 18<29Ariadne>(2) why wouldn't gates just give money to MIT directly
T 1610820138 18<29Ariadne>and, go
T 1610820174 18<29schestowitz>read on
T 1610820182 18<28CrystalMath>Ariadne: those people that RMS surrounded himself with actually told me that women are "wearker, lesser"
T 1610820189 18<28CrystalMath>that's bullcrap of the highest order
T 1610820193 18<28CrystalMath>*weaker
T 1610820196 18<29Ariadne>none of these links explain to me why gates would launder money for MIT through epstein
T 1610820198 18<29schestowitz>Ito already said it had happened
T 1610820209 18<29schestowitz>I'm not going to start refuting actual emails FROM MIT ADMINS!
T 1610820216 18<29schestowitz>Several of them
T 1610820219 18<28CrystalMath>Ariadne: it's those people like Bradley Kuhn that are the problem
T 1610820231 18<29Ariadne>schestowitz: i don't doubt it happened, i am just asking why
T 1610820238 18<29Ariadne>because that's a far juicier story, don't you think?
T 1610820242 18<28CrystalMath>Ariadne: they're all SWERFs, and former TERFs
T 1610820252 18<29schestowitz>Ariadne: look back at the jail visits
T 1610820256 18<29schestowitz>and what they sought to accomplish
T 1610820260 18<29schestowitz>after his imprisonment
T 1610820266 18<29schestowitz>and after Gates flew with him
T 1610820278 18<29Ariadne>i'm just asking -- if i were gates, why wouldn't i just give money to MIT directly
T 1610820286 18<29schestowitz>they did that too
T 1610820304 18<29schestowitz>read the emails
T 1610820310 18<29schestowitz>they asked for secrecy
T 1610820315 18<29schestowitz>and needed a mule
T 1610820318 18<29schestowitz>for PR reasons
T 1610820325 18<29schestowitz>not the first time passing money via proxies
T 1610820325 18<29Ariadne>CrystalMath: do you have any citations re: bkuhn being a TERF/SWERF?
T 1610820349 18<29Ariadne>i'm curious to know more
T 1610820388 18<29Ariadne>alpine is looking into changing its organizational structure, and conservancy was discussed as a possible option. if conservancy leadership holds values like that, however, it would be problematic
T 1610820427 18<29schestowitz>this is the sole issue?
T 1610820433 18<29schestowitz>not sfc taking ms cash?
T 1610820448 18<29schestowitz>selling them keynotes?
T 1610820449 18<29Ariadne>hey if MS wants to give me cash, i'm not going to say no
T 1610820456 18<29Ariadne>as long as it is no strings attached
T 1610820461 18<28CrystalMath>Ariadne: he isn't a TERF anymore, but he was around in the early 2000s, when they rejected a transwoman's job application because "her appearance was weird"
T 1610820462 18<29schestowitz>there are
T 1610820465 18<29schestowitz>keynotes
T 1610820494 18<29Ariadne>alpine bullied microsoft into joining OIN, which was pretty hilarious :)
T 1610820514 18<29schestowitz>they keep extorting
T 1610820516 18<28CrystalMath>Ariadne: his SWERFdom is visible on his blog
T 1610820519 18<29schestowitz>it was a pr ploy
T 1610820528 18<29schestowitz>months later a patent lawsuit
T 1610820540 18<29schestowitz>5 months latter iitc
T 1610820541 18<29Ariadne>schestowitz: yeah i am not surprised they aren't committing to a spirit of abolishing software patents
T 1610820556 18<29Ariadne>hince "hilarious" being my description of that accomplishmnt
T 1610820566 18<29schestowitz>oin became bad too
T 1610820581 18<29schestowitz>after their grace period
T 1610820582 18<28CrystalMath>Ariadne: evidence here: http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2019/10/15/fsf-rms.html
T 1610820582 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606ebb.org | On Recent Controversial Events - Bradley M. Kuhn ( Brad ) ( bkuhn )
T 1610820589 18<29techrights-ipfs> ▕ IPFS downstream, 45 mins: ▅▅▄▄▆▇▆▅▅▅▆▄▅█▆▅▄▄▄▅▇▅▆▄▆▅▅▆▆▅▅▅▇▆▅▅▅▄▅▄▄▅▆▅▆▅▆▅▆▅▆ ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▄▃▃▄▂▃▃▄▃▂▃▃▃▄▄▄▄▃▄▃▄▄▃▄▂▄▃▃▃▄▃▃▄▂▃▂▄▄▄▅▃▃▄▃▃▄▂▃▄▃▄▃▄▃ ⟲
T 1610820593 18<29Ariadne>OIN has been bad from day 1, because they advance a narrative that software patents are legitimate
T 1610820612 18<29schestowitz>but...
T 1610820614 18<28CrystalMath>Ariadne: Bradley Kuhn lists a series of RMS political posts that he considers harmful
T 1610820621 18<29schestowitz>benefit of doubt
T 1610820626 18<29schestowitz>+palmisano
T 1610820629 18<28CrystalMath>one of which is this: https://web.archive.org/web/20191011023557/https://stallman.org/archives/2019-jul-oct.html#21_September_2019_(Sex_workers)
T 1610820632 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606web.archive.org | 2019: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman
T 1610820642 18<29Ariadne>CrystalMath: got it
T 1610820662 18<28CrystalMath>"Today's Sex Workers, Like Their Victorian Sisters, Don't Want "saving". Feminism today is drifting off the track into a campaign of prudery that harms everyone, except those who are asexual."
T 1610820723 18<28CrystalMath>"When the escalation started, I still considered RMS both a friend and colleague, and I attempted to argue with him at length to convince him that some of his positions were harmful to sexual assault survivors and those who are *sex-trafficked*, and to the people who devote their lives in service to such individuals." -- Bradley Kuhn himself (emphasis mine)
T 1610820747 18<28CrystalMath>he believes that sex workers are necessarily sex trafficked and need to be protected for their own good, and cannot decide for themselves
T 1610820748 18<29Ariadne>schestowitz: it was a symbolic concession, obviously. but we wanted some sort of concession to allow them to use alpine's name and marks in windows store.
T 1610820757 18<28CrystalMath>which is typical of idiots who also want the AoC to be positive infinity
T 1610820768 18<29Ariadne>which is more than what debian or suse asked :)
T 1610820795 18<28CrystalMath>this is enough to prove to me 100% that Bradley Kuhn is a SWERF, it's visible in his language
T 1610820795 18<29schestowitz>Ariadne: right: logo on a page :-)
T 1610820810 18<29Ariadne>CrystalMath: yes, that is unfortunate
T 1610820813 18<29schestowitz>but why even focus on that?
T 1610820820 18<29schestowitz>I always found his smug
T 1610820829 18<29schestowitz>and arrogant towards fellow FS proponents
T 1610820835 18<29schestowitz>myself probably included
T 1610820841 18<29Ariadne>schestowitz: understanding the attitude of a person helps in understanding what interpersonal relations with that person may look like
T 1610820846 18<29schestowitz>and many agreed with me when I pointed this out a decade ago
T 1610820853 18<29schestowitz>he's not good with social aspects
T 1610820855 18<29schestowitz>ar all
T 1610820856 18<29schestowitz>*at
T 1610820875 18<29schestowitz>anyone here found kuhn amicable?
T 1610820878 18<29schestowitz>or amicable?
T 1610820884 18<29schestowitz>Sandler is a lot nicer
T 1610820894 18<29schestowitz>a bit of a "on a high horse", but...
T 1610820899 18<29Ariadne>understanding what a relationship looks like ahead of time is important when discussing a distribution with non-trivial assets and a billion dollar ecosystem
T 1610820915 18<29Ariadne>discussing stewardship of*
T 1610820924 18<29schestowitz>I see...
T 1610820932 18<29schestowitz>well, I lost faith in SFC 3 years ago
T 1610820939 18<29schestowitz>all sorts of things that we covered happened
T 1610820944 18<29Ariadne>one concern of mine is that SFC may take legal actions we don't consent to
T 1610820954 18<29Ariadne>this is also a concern with SFLC/SPI
T 1610820960 18<28CrystalMath>Ariadne: like which?
T 1610820963 18<29schestowitz>I sympathised when Sandler was pushed out of LF
T 1610820977 18<29schestowitz>now SFC is becoming more like LF
T 1610820996 18<29Ariadne>CrystalMath: GPL enforcement
T 1610821011 18<28CrystalMath>she can't do copyright enforcement without the power of attorney
T 1610821022 18<28CrystalMath>unless the SFC is the copyright holder
T 1610821039 18<29Ariadne>to join SFC, you grant them power of attorney
T 1610821056 18<28CrystalMath>really? that sounds horrible
T 1610821065 18<29Ariadne>anyway, it is most likely that alpine will remain independent, possibly as a societas europaea
T 1610821065 18<28CrystalMath>can you leave?
T 1610821088 18<28CrystalMath>also, you can always give people a BSD license
T 1610821096 18<28CrystalMath>making the trial a guaranteed loss
T 1610821105 18<28CrystalMath>damaging the SFC in the progress
T 1610821117 18<28CrystalMath>*process
T 1610821121 18<29Ariadne>that is not a relationship we would want to have with the steward of our resources
T 1610821135 18<28CrystalMath>i absolutely oppose the SFC
T 1610821166 18<29Ariadne>however, some projects in the alpine ecosystem are stewarded by linux foundation
T 1610821175 18<29Ariadne>which is not great either
T 1610821178 18<29schestowitz>What have they as lawyers accomplished anyway?
T 1610821183 18<29schestowitz>the samba lawyers did more
T 1610821195 18<29Ariadne>gpl-violations.org has been great news for VxWorks adoption :)
T 1610821197 18<28CrystalMath>https://sfconservancy.org/projects/current/
T 1610821198 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606sfconservancy.org | Current Projects - Software Freedom Conservancy
T 1610821199 18<26smnthermes>https://9to5linux.com/tails-anonymous-linux-os-wants-to-migrate-to-wayland-to-improve-app-security
T 1610821201 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Tails Anonymous Linux OS Wants to Migrate to Wayland to Improve App Security - 9to5Linux
T 1610821207 18<28CrystalMath>this is a great list of projects to avoid™
T 1610821254 18<28CrystalMath>dammit, QEMU is there
T 1610821255 18<29schestowitz>do they still hire techs?
T 1610821259 18<29schestowitz>who can code?
T 1610821263 18<29schestowitz>and DO they code?
T 1610821265 18<28CrystalMath>oh my! i almost helped them
T 1610821279 18<28CrystalMath>i will NOT submit that patch i had ready for qemu laying around
T 1610821282 18<28CrystalMath>death to qemu
T 1610821288 18<29schestowitz>seems to me like it's a fundrising thing with invoing for sponsorship and keynotes on sale now
T 1610821295 18<29schestowitz>hey, google, wanna KEYNOTE?
T 1610821297 18<28CrystalMath>death to wine, too
T 1610821318 18<28CrystalMath>and death to inkscape, i'm gonna remove that crap
T 1610821369 18<29schestowitz>doesn't reactos use wine?
T 1610821374 18<28CrystalMath>yes, but i still hate it
T 1610821386 18<28CrystalMath>i always refused to contribute to wine
T 1610821401 18<28MinceR>death to reactos as well
T 1610821408 18<28CrystalMath>MinceR: no, it's not in the SFC
T 1610821426 18<28CrystalMath>if my hatred of Karen Sandler keeps growing, i will start being anti-GPL too
T 1610821428 18<29Ariadne>anyway, if alpine were to make a GPL enforcement action, we would want to be the ones making that decision
T 1610821441 18<28CrystalMath>maybe i should just use the MIT license from now on
T 1610821452 18<28MinceR>CrystalMath: it's still a reimplementation of a bad design :>
T 1610821452 18<29Ariadne>and i don't think that is unreasonable
T 1610821463 18<28CrystalMath>i would rather help Microsoft than Coraline Ada Ehmke
T 1610821476 18<29Ariadne>Coraline is actually a nice person. have you ever talked to her?
T 1610821478 18<28MinceR>who's forcing you to help either?
T 1610821491 18<28CrystalMath>Ariadne: no, and i wouldn't want to, her ethical software movement is horrible
T 1610821497 18<28CrystalMath>at least the proprietary software movement is honest
T 1610821498 18<28MinceR>Ariadne: attacking free software projects is not a really nice thing to do, actually
T 1610821514 18<29Ariadne>it is possible to have friendly conversation while disagreeing on some things
T 1610821525 18<28CrystalMath>yeah i suppose she's probably not that bad to talk to
T 1610821555 18<28CrystalMath>but there's still that strong disagreement
T 1610821570 18<28CrystalMath>and the fact that i would sooner give money and code to microsoft than her movement
T 1610821578 18<29Ariadne>it is valuable to get different points of view when exploring an issue
T 1610821578 18<28CrystalMath>i'm sure Bill Gates is nice to talk to, too
T 1610821588 18<29Ariadne>wouldn't know
T 1610821594 18<28CrystalMath>we could play contract bridge
T 1610821600 18<28CrystalMath>if we find 2 more players
T 1610821630 18<29Ariadne>i vaguely remember my grandparents' windows for workgroups machine having a contract bridge game
T 1610821630 18<28CrystalMath>(as a former member of the Bill Gates fan club, i know that's his favorite card game)
T 1610821672 18<28MinceR>harassing free software developers so that SJWs get to control who gets to work on their code and who doesn't is even less of a nice thing to do
T 1610821682 18<28CrystalMath>Ariadne: maybe it's my upbringing, but i would rather support a murderer than an overprotective parent figure
T 1610821697 18<28CrystalMath>Ariadne: simply because i never had an abuser, just overprotective parents
T 1610821701 18<28MinceR>i'd rather protect neither
T 1610821710 18<28MinceR>neither deserve protection and it's less work for me
T 1610821716 18<28CrystalMath>yeah but i mean, i'm more angry about being overprotected than abused
T 1610821737 18<29Ariadne>anyway
T 1610821899 18<28CrystalMath>okay yes i did say some crazy stuff just because i was angry... it happens
T 1610821972 18<29Ariadne>i'm skeptical of all of those "we act as proxy steward for projects" things
T 1610821984 18<29Ariadne>if you let them have a finger in the pie, they'll fuck up the pie given enough time
T 1610822000 18*29schestowitz has 50 cents
T 1610822007 18*29schestowitz looks at OSI and LF
T 1610822054 18<29Ariadne>for smaller projects it makes sense, but not for something at distro scale imo
T 1610822076 18<28MinceR>(cat) https://ircz.de/p/20071342
T 1610822077 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4751048)
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T 1610822113 18<28CrystalMath>MinceR: that's how i felt a while ago
T 1610822121 18<29Ariadne>i wish activitypub were less verbose
T 1610822131 18<28MinceR>like that cat?
T 1610822133 18<28CrystalMath>yes
T 1610822135 18<28CrystalMath>:P
T 1610822137 18<28MinceR>:3
T 1610822209 18<28CrystalMath>isn't my logic great when i'm angry? i think Coraline is subverting the free software movement in favor of Bill Gates, so i'm going to help Bill Gates in order to get back at coraline
T 1610822225 18<29Ariadne>'ethical source' is basically an emotional reaction to the toolmakers' dilemma
T 1610822246 18<28CrystalMath>i was angry a few days ago and wrote my own Unethical License
T 1610822250 18<29Ariadne>i don't think copyright is an effective tool for this
T 1610822253 18<28CrystalMath>it demands that you use the software for evil only
T 1610822272 18<29Ariadne>i would prefer that people do not use my work to harm others, but the reality is, once it's out there, it's out there
T 1610822311 18<28CrystalMath>i would prefer it if my software was used to harm others, especially that DOS emulator of mine
T 1610822315 18<29Ariadne>instead, if you care about such things, the best way is to be vocal about it in your life
T 1610822316 18<28CrystalMath>emulate the hell out of someone
T 1610822374 18<29Ariadne>in other words, if i write an http server, i can't do anything about the KKK using it for their website
T 1610822381 18<29Ariadne>but i can choose to not answer their inquiries
T 1610822395 18<29schestowitz>http://techrights.org/2020/11/12/what-is-ncoc/
T 1610822396 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Codes of Conduct for Grown-ups | Techrights
T 1610822399 18<29schestowitz>CrystalMath: ^
T 1610822413 18<29Ariadne>the contributor covenant has one nice feature
T 1610822422 18<29Ariadne>alt-right people see it and tend to go elsewhere
T 1610822431 18<29Ariadne>for that reason alone, i have started using it
T 1610822449 18<28CrystalMath>then i will write a CoC
T 1610822456 18<28CrystalMath>which says that people must fight every day
T 1610822459 18<29Ariadne>obviously, a document does not mean anything
T 1610822470 18<28CrystalMath>FCCoC (Fight Club Code of Conduct)
T 1610822471 18<29Ariadne>but if it makes alt-righters choose a different project
T 1610822475 18<29Ariadne>that works for me ^_^
T 1610822483 18<28MinceR>Ariadne: not only altReich people avoid dealing with CoC-infested projects
T 1610822487 18<29schestowitz>that makes coc look disingenuous
T 1610822487 18<28CrystalMath>i'm going to fork your project and put up a fight club code of conduct
T 1610822498 18<29schestowitz>reinforces the idea that it's a plot unrelated to software
T 1610822505 18<28MinceR>CrystalMath: how do you define evil, though, as far as complying with the UL goes?
T 1610822506 18<29schestowitz>but about excluding people
T 1610822522 18<29Ariadne>well, i do indeed wish to exclude alt-right people
T 1610822527 18<28CrystalMath>MinceR: it's purposely left undefined, after all, it's more evil if i don't tell people
T 1610822529 18<29Ariadne>but i would just ban them regardless from my tracker
T 1610822531 18<29Ariadne>so :)
T 1610822532 18<29schestowitz>coc does not do that
T 1610822535 18<28CrystalMath>mwahahahahaha
T 1610822540 18<29schestowitz>coc alienates people other than the right
T 1610822546 18<29schestowitz>it excludes some older people
T 1610822554 18<29schestowitz>who are not used to this kind of hammer
T 1610822573 18<28CrystalMath>Ariadne: i'm seriously going to fork your projects, and put up a code of conduct that says "Be horrible to each other."
T 1610822574 18<28MinceR>it also excludes people who do not like to be at the mercy of megacorporate bureaucrats
T 1610822579 18<28MinceR>like in the case of Linux
T 1610822580 18<29Ariadne>CrystalMath: go for it
T 1610822581 18<28CrystalMath>the opposite of "Be excellent to each other."
T 1610822585 18<29schestowitz>if you want to alienate fascists, use a rainbow for project logo
T 1610822589 18<28MinceR>and the Microsoft Linux Foundation
T 1610822592 18<29schestowitz>coc is not the right brush
T 1610822593 18<29schestowitz>too broad
T 1610822595 18<28CrystalMath>schestowitz: eh, that won't alienate me
T 1610822604 18<28CrystalMath>and i love hatred
T 1610822621 18<28CrystalMath>i'm not conservative though
T 1610822622 18<28MinceR>16 194818 < schestowitz> if you want to alienate fascists, use a rainbow for project logo
T 1610822625 18<28MinceR>nice idea
T 1610822633 18<28MinceR>though it might not fit with all projects :>
T 1610822642 18<29schestowitz>use antifa logo
T 1610822651 18<29schestowitz>they hate people who oppose what they are
T 1610822698 18<29Ariadne>i'll just embed 'always' by erasure on the project website and have it play in a loop until it gets DMCA'd
T 1610822699 18<29Ariadne>;)
T 1610822706 18<28CrystalMath>eh, but if it's about a real antifa, not the one that destroys the businesses of poor black people, then what is there to dislike about it?
T 1610822721 18<28CrystalMath>Ariadne: i love that song
T 1610822790 18<28CrystalMath>years ago, i have considered making The Prodigy's Smack My Bitch Up to be the official theme song of my projects, just to get people who can't take bad words away from it
T 1610822811 18<28CrystalMath>because i don't want people who can't withstand a good mental beating (not physical, since i can't withstand that either)
T 1610822828 18<28CrystalMath>it's okay to be physically weak, but it's not okay to be mentally weak
T 1610822903 18<29Ariadne>heh
T 1610822942 18<28CrystalMath>maybe there could also be a bot that prints lots of alt-right stuff, as a hazing test
T 1610822947 18<28CrystalMath>if you survive that, you pass
T 1610822975 18<28CrystalMath>oh, but there must also be a bot that prints socialist stuff
T 1610822988 18<28CrystalMath>to clear the mentally weak on the other side as well
T 1610822988 18<29Ariadne>anyway
T 1610823001 18<29Ariadne>time to write some code to mutate RDF collections
T 1610823003 18<28MinceR>you could combine them by having a bot that prints national socialist stuff
T 1610823003 18<29Ariadne>WHAT FUN
T 1610823023 18<28CrystalMath>MinceR: yeah but then it will sound either crazy or very specific
T 1610823035 18<28CrystalMath>MinceR: i need to expose people to totally extreme different viewpoints
T 1610823039 18<28MinceR>1 5-line swastika comes up every minute. what could possibly go wrong?
T 1610823042 18<29Ariadne>just train a markov generator on trump's twitter feed
T 1610823051 18<28CrystalMath>Ariadne: but i need the other side, as well
T 1610823054 18<28CrystalMath>because i only want centrists
T 1610823073 18<28CrystalMath>i want to chase away anyone who is polarized on either side
T 1610823153 18<28CrystalMath>schestowitz: i liked Unfettered Freedom episode 11, is that the same guy as DistroTube?
T 1610823161 18<28MinceR>i wonder if the bot would be called TriggerBot
T 1610823238 18<28CrystalMath>but even if someone has an extreme opinion, it's still okay if they're not easily triggered
T 1610823248 18<28CrystalMath>like if they can listen to other opinions and survive
T 1610823260 18<28CrystalMath>because i believe in not discriminating by opinions
T 1610823305 18<28MinceR>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating_in_online_games#Aimbots_and_triggerbots
T 1610823305 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606en.wikipedia.org | Cheating in online games - Wikipedia
T 1610823336 18<28CrystalMath>ah, i didn't know that was a thing
T 1610823354 18<28MinceR>:)
T 1610823366 18<28CrystalMath>i think i'm getting a migraine
T 1610823433 18<29schestowitz>[18:59] <CrystalMath> because i believe in not discriminating by opinions
T 1610823440 18<29schestowitz>I just did a video about Mozilla
T 1610823443 18<29schestowitz>very slow to upload
T 1610823448 18<29schestowitz>about 10mb/hour
T 1610823519 18<29schestowitz>MinceR: that's not hard to do..
T 1610823722 18<25XRevan86>https://smbc-comics.com/comic/bad-things
T 1610823723 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Bad Things
T 1610823752 18<28MinceR>:>
T 1610823779 18<28MinceR>baby-eating ftw
T 1610823783 18<28MinceR>http://www.gutenberg.org/files/1080/1080-h/1080-h.htm
T 1610823784 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.gutenberg.org | A Modest Proposal, by Jonathan Swift
T 1610824024 18<28CrystalMath>MinceR: so now you know how much i hate the easily triggered; it's a good thing that i wasn't easily triggered into saying all those things, right?
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T 1610824088 18<28MinceR>lol
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T 1610824203 31<kingoffrance>30https://definitions.uslegal.com/c/code-of-conduct/ A code of conduct is a set of rules governing proper manner of conducting oneself as part of an organization. It is similar to a code of ethics. <-- as i pointed out before, legal == rules, form, letter of law no "morals" there.
T 1610824204 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606definitions.uslegal.com | Code of Conduct Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.
T 1610824215 31<kingoffrance>30law has morals, legal stuff does not
T 1610824229 31<kingoffrance>30its dead letter look for loopholes murder the spirit
T 1610824293 31<kingoffrance>30 any legal stuff pretending to be moral is a non-sequitor
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T 1610824450 31<kingoffrance>30morals are only possible when there is a concept of spirit. not a checklist of things to tick off
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T 1610825496 18<28MinceR>https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/18/849514d859c600f4.jpg
T 1610825697 31<kingoffrance>30and once you have "spirit of the law" that is something preceding any written law/codes/rules, something higher, something that might generate the letter of the law. and allow breaking the letter/rules.
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T 1610825772 31<kingoffrance>30that is what is meant by the distinction
T 1610825787 31<kingoffrance>30why there has to be that separation
T 1610825804 31<kingoffrance>30else you get the code can do no wrong, is infallible, etc.
T 1610825841 18<28MinceR>the spirit is fallible as well
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T 1610827893 18<29schestowitz>the OSI infiltrators would say, UN is morals
T 1610827909 18<29schestowitz>(yes, same UN that puts Saudi Barbaria in key chairs)
T 1610828126 18<28MinceR>and the same UN that attacked the entire IT industry with the WIPO Copyright Treaty
T 1610828148 18<29schestowitz>of just WIPO
T 1610828376 18<28techrights-bot>#HowTo Install Garuda #KDE Dragonized • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146549 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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T 1610828467 18<28techrights-bot>12 Useful #FreeSW #Git Tools • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146550 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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T 1610828507 18<28techrights-bot>#Android Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146551 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/16/#latest
T 1610828507 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
T 1610828509 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
T 1610829805 18<28techrights-bot>#FreeSpeech on the Web Not Respected by Companies That Used to Support #SoftwareFreedom • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/16/neutral-browsers/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW
T 1610829806 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Free Speech on the Web Not Respected by Companies That Used to Support Software Freedom | Techrights
T 1610829981 18<28techrights-bot>#IPEC is a court named after a misnomer, "AYE PEE"; this is a #copyright case, so speak of #copyrights rather than mythology associated with it (or made up by cartels and their zealots) http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/guest-post-unsung-florence-foster.html
T 1610829982 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606ipkitten.blogspot.com | [Guest post] Unsung Florence Foster Jenkins screenwriter is entitled to joint authorship share - The IPKat
T 1610830202 18<28techrights-bot>Scorewriter #MuseScore 3.6 Released with New Fonts, Improvements • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146552 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/16/#latest
T 1610830203 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Scorewriter MuseScore 3.6 Released with New Fonts, Improvements | Tux Machines
T 1610830232 18<29schestowitz>MinceR: OR just WIPO, in general http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/WIPO
T 1610830233 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | WIPO - Techrights
T 1610830338 18<28techrights-bot>Measuring one's (or your) age by how long you're been used or enslaved by a #socialcontrolmedia venture of Saudis and megalomaniacs with malicious agenda... https://popey.com/blog/2021/01/13th-twitterversary/
T 1610830339 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606popey.com | 13th Twitter-versary ·
T 1610830681 18<28techrights-bot>Wine pops cork on version 6.0 of the #Windows compatibility layer http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146470#comment-27829 #gnu #linux
T 1610830682 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 6.0 Officially Released with Vulkan Backend for WineD3D, This Is What’s New | Tux Machines
T 1610830854 18<19DaemonFC[m]>What happened in South Africa has been an ongoing tragedy for many decades.
T 1610830860 18<28techrights-bot>Some of these are #proprietarysoftware , which #GNU / #Linux do not need for any practical reason https://www.how2shout.com/linux/5-best-free-pdf-editors-for-ubuntu-linux-in-2021/
T 1610830861 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.how2shout.com | 5 Best free PDF editors for Ubuntu Linux in 2021 - Linux Shout
T 1610830889 18<19DaemonFC[m]>The apartheid government fell (good), it was said that instead of vendetta that they would all figure out how to get along somehow under the new government (good), and then that's not what happened.
T 1610830937 18<19DaemonFC[m]>The new government turned into a kleptocracy that accuses white people who are citizens of "stealing land" and seizes productive farm land and doesn't use it for anything, and turns the other way while people are being murdered.
T 1610830947 18<19DaemonFC[m]>(So, things came full circle.)
T 1610830953 18<28techrights-bot>Transition from #Thunderbird to #Mutt https://abhijithpa.me/2021/transition-from-thunderbird-to-mutt/ I've long wondered about doing something such as this...
T 1610830954 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606abhijithpa.me | Transition from Thunderbird to Mutt
T 1610831045 18<19DaemonFC[m]>"Burgeoning kleptocracy." is a term used to describe the state of Illinois from a "racist publication" that the SPLC tracks, based in Roanoke, Indiana.
T 1610831074 18<28techrights-bot>"When cars become so smart [sic] that they starve themselves. [...] this shortage is due to pushing useless or harmful stuff." https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/01/the-unneeded-shortage-of-semiconductors-for-cars/
T 1610831076 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606stop.zona-m.net | The unneeded shortage of semiconductors for cars | Stop at Zona-M
T 1610831087 18<19DaemonFC[m]>And on that point, I must agree. Public "workers" have gotten so powerful that the state just ignores the good of the public, takes their earnings, and shovels 2-3 times what these public workers should earn into their hands.
T 1610831097 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Knowing that a lot of it will end up back in Democratic Party coffers.
T 1610831116 18<19DaemonFC[m]>They can go back and market themselves to welfare cases and public "workers" and get all the votes they need that way.
T 1610831135 18<28techrights-bot>#Java Built-In Functional Interfaces Cheatsheet and Examples http://knowledgebasement.com/java-built-in-functional-interfaces-cheatsheet-and-examples/ #programming
T 1610831135 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606knowledgebasement.com | Java Built-In Functional Interfaces Cheatsheet and Examples |
T 1610831173 18<19DaemonFC[m]>MinceR: And of course, this can go on forever as businesses and private sector workers go "It's beginning to look a lot like fuck this." and skip across the border.
T 1610831182 18<28MinceR>:>
T 1610831202 18<19DaemonFC[m]>But the Democrats see that as a bonus. The productive people aren't interested in voting for them anyway, and the state empties out of those people before the ponzi falls apart.
T 1610831269 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Then the state is broken mess full of people who can't get welfare or pensions anymore after the sovereign default, but hey at least there's no Republicans.
T 1610831282 18<28techrights-bot>Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146553 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/16/#latest
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T 1610831299 18<19DaemonFC[m]>And the first people to empty out of Chicago are the ones who were earning six or seven figures and can get up and go anywhere they want, just like people were warned of.
T 1610831338 18<29schestowitz>debt too big
T 1610831349 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Before the virus, it was looking like the state might actually survive its problems because it had an advanced and diversified private sector economy.
T 1610831350 18<29schestowitz>Biden wants to shell out another 1.9 trillion
T 1610831354 18<19DaemonFC[m]>And we'd all just muddle along somehow.
T 1610831368 18<29schestowitz>that'll be more like Trump, or 10 trillion extra debt in less than 5 years
T 1610831380 18<29schestowitz>you cannot run at a deficit that huge
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T 1610831399 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Now the tax base is gone, the public debt is so bad that only the Federal Reserve will loan Illinois money at rates below what Russia can get, and the party is just about over.
T 1610831433 18<19DaemonFC[m]>schestowitz: If the Fed won't keep loaning Illinois money, the scam falls apart in about 6 months maybe.
T 1610831458 18<19DaemonFC[m]>And since its shareholders are private bankers who have no interest in propping up a failed state, how long will this go on?
T 1610831494 18<28techrights-bot>#KDE e.V. board meeting January 2021 | [bobulate] ⇨ https://euroquis.nl//kde/2021/01/16/kdeev.html •●• #euroquis | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/16/#latest
T 1610831495 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606euroquis.nl | KDE e.V. board meeting January 2021 | [bobulate]
T 1610831496 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
T 1610831505 18<19DaemonFC[m]>My guess is the Municipal Liquidity Fund (which only Illinois tapped before it expired last month) was set up so an entire state wouldn't go bust leading into an election.
T 1610831527 18<28techrights-bot>#KDE #OSM Indoor Map Demo App ⇨ https://www.volkerkrause.eu/2021/01/16/kde-osm-indoor-map-demo-app.html •●• #volkerkrause | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/16/#latest
T 1610831528 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.volkerkrause.eu | KDE OSM Indoor Map Demo App
T 1610831580 18<19DaemonFC[m]>The Governor borrowed $2.5 billion more dollars, which doesn't even cover the projected $4 billion deficit for the state this year.
T 1610831595 18<19DaemonFC[m]>This is worse than anyone wants to admit.
T 1610831605 18<19DaemonFC[m]>$1.9 trillion will make little difference, schestowitz
T 1610831620 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Remember that's spread out over an entire country where the economy is basically ruined at this point.
T 1610831648 18<19DaemonFC[m]>$2 trillion was barely enough for the Great Recession and Obama even said it turned out to be not enough.
T 1610831676 18<19DaemonFC[m]>$2 trillion in 2009 only replaced about 35% of lost GDP that year, iirc.
T 1610831690 18<19DaemonFC[m]>And deficit spending causes problems to crop up elsewhere. Inflation, creditors being alarmed, etc.
T 1610831728 18<28techrights-bot>#FreeBSD October-December 2020 Status Report • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146554 •●• #BSD #UNIX
T 1610831728 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD October-December 2020 Status Report | Tux Machines
T 1610831733 18<19DaemonFC[m]>It's a ridiculous idea, and of course all of the usual suspects like Robert Rubin are back again to tell us how great it is.
T 1610831751 18<19DaemonFC[m]>So much better than taxing Musk, Bezos, Cook, Zuckerberg, and Gates.
T 1610831783 18<19DaemonFC[m]>schestowitz: How much more can they whip out Robert Rubin and Larry Summers?
T 1610831877 18<28techrights-bot>#GhostBSD 21.01.15 Release Notes • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146555 •●• #BSD #UNIX
T 1610831877 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | GhostBSD 21.01.15 Release Notes | Tux Machines
T 1610832012 18<28techrights-bot>#KDE : On KDE e.V., #OSM , and #SoK • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146556 •●• #GNU #Linux
T 1610832012 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: On KDE e.V., OSM, and SoK | Tux Machines
T 1610832248 18<28techrights-bot>#PinePower 120W desktop power supply features display, USB PD, QC 3.0 and wireless charging http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146533#comment-27830 overcompilcating simple things to sell gimmicks?
T 1610832249 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | PinePhone Mobian, Librem 14, and More | Tux Machines
T 1610832483 18<29schestowitz>[21:18] <DaemonFC[m]> $1.9 trillion will make little difference, schestowitz
T 1610832487 18<29schestowitz>UBI might help, but...
T 1610832492 18<29schestowitz>that works for rich states
T 1610832496 18<29schestowitz>not state of the rich
T 1610832502 18<29schestowitz>as in, controlled by few rich people
T 1610832512 18<29schestowitz>in fact, in such states, UBI would not pass
T 1610832527 18<29schestowitz>they can drive down wages by increasing job insecurity
T 1610832550 18<29schestowitz>Carter was right
T 1610832552 18<29schestowitz>decades back
T 1610832565 18<29schestowitz>maybe someone like trump or worse will be back in 4 years
T 1610832573 18<29schestowitz>as people feel like there's nothing left to lose
T 1610832581 18<29schestowitz>so they stick to their clique
T 1610832589 18<29schestowitz>and some to their firearms
T 1610832740 18<29schestowitz>3,817 US covid deaths yesterday
T 1610832748 18<29schestowitz>might be a similar figure today
T 1610832753 18<29schestowitz>9/11 becoming ol' skool
T 1610832801 18<28techrights-bot>Almost 700 people with #covid19 died yesterday or declared dead in #california alone (694).
T 1610832940 18<28techrights-bot>More people in the #uk tested positive for #covid19 than got merely the FirstDose(TM) of Viagra Company's #clinicalTrials (which lack actual evidence, >as yet<, to demonstrate efficacy). The virus spreads faster than this unproven false hope (as yet).
T 1610833026 18<28techrights-bot>#RasPiOS 2021-01-12 was released last week. #microsoft tried to hijack #raspi Fdn. like it did #olpc but it failed. RasPi spreading #gnu #linux widely. https://www.raspberrypi.org/
T 1610833027 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.raspberrypi.org | Teach, Learn, and Make with Raspberry Pi
T 1610833087 18<28techrights-bot>Better Fujitsu A64FX Support Arrives For #GCC , #LLVM #Clang Compilers - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fujitsu-A64FX-Better-Compiler •●• #Phoronix
T 1610833087 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Better Fujitsu A64FX Support Arrives For GCC, LLVM Clang Compilers - Phoronix
T 1610833334 18<28techrights-bot>Hackability Matters • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146557 "Cron, or its significantly more complicated counterpart systemd"
T 1610833335 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Hackability Matters | Tux Machines
T 1610833863 18<19DaemonFC[m]><schestowitz "and some to their firearms"> I'm buying one as soon as I get my FOID card reinstated.
T 1610833878 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Of course who knows how bad things will be by the time they bother to do that.
T 1610833906 18<19DaemonFC[m]>schestowitz: Lemonade is letting people modify their renters insurance policies again.
T 1610834001 18<28techrights-bot>#Zeroshell 3.9.5 Released • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146558 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/16/#latest
T 1610834002 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Zeroshell 3.9.5 Released | Tux Machines
T 1610834003 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
T 1610834040 18<28techrights-bot>Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 3.2.4 beta 6 ⇨ https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-3-2-4-beta-6 •●• #godotengine #deletegithub #microsoft #proprietarySoftware
T 1610834042 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606godotengine.org | Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 3.2.4 beta 6
T 1610834151 18<28techrights-bot>#linuxfoundation releases another #microsoft #windows -powered 'newsletter' https://linuxfoundation.org/en/uncategorized/january-2021-linux-foundation-newsletter-bootcamp-sale-solarwinds-orion-new-kubernetes-webassembly-classes-lfx-webinar-series/ see http://techrights.org/2020/06/22/proprietary-iis-and-windows-foundation/
T 1610834152 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606linuxfoundation.org | January 2021 Linux Foundation Newsletter: Bootcamp Sale, SolarWinds Orion, New Kubernetes & WebAssembly Classes, LFX Webinar Series - Linux Foundation
T 1610834152 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Linux Foundation Newsletter is Microsoft Windows and Proprietary IIS | Techrights
T 1610834260 18<28techrights-bot>#Systemd Applet Release - Michael Jansen, Drive By Coding ⇨ https://michael-jansen.name/blog/20210115-plasma-systemd-applet-bugfix/?utm_source=atom_feed •●• #michaeljansen
T 1610834261 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606michael-jansen.name | Systemd Applet Release - Michael Jansen, Drive By Coding
T 1610834306 18<29schestowitz>DaemonFC[m]: lemonade?!
T 1610834330 18<28MinceR>Lemon curry?!
T 1610834481 18<28techrights-bot>"We now have another fancy and fantastic looking tool called duf to display statistics on free disk space in Unix, Linux, macOS, *BSD" https://www.cyberciti.biz/open-source/command-line-hacks/duf-disk-usage-free-utility-for-linux-bsd-macos-windows/
T 1610834482 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.cyberciti.biz | duf - Disk Usage/Free Utility for Linux, BSD, macOS & Windows - nixCraft
T 1610834503 18<29schestowitz>MinceR: lenoncake, yum!
T 1610834568 18<28MinceR>"Cheat Shaquille, Looky, she eats! Yo, bun o' llama, Lemon, yum!"
T 1610834648 18<28techrights-bot>Games: #Familiarsio , Valve and #GodotEngine • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146559 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1610834649 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Familiars.io, Valve and Godot | Tux Machines
T 1610834709 18<29schestowitz>MinceR: wah duh?
T 1610834750 18<28MinceR>lemon curry is from monty python, but the latter line is from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjYbZb7yVYI
T 1610834750 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06A Sticky Night Of Love (subtitled) - YouTube
T 1610834869 18<28techrights-bot>#Debian Developers: Christian Kastner, Junichi Uekawa, and Michael Prokop • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146560 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1610834869 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Debian Developers: Christian Kastner, Junichi Uekawa, and Michael Prokop | Tux Machines
T 1610834952 18<29schestowitz>ic...
T 1610834957 18<28MinceR>:)
T 1610834963 18<29schestowitz>icc senior
T 1610834988 18<29techrights-ipfs> ▕ IPFS downstream, 45 mins: ▂▃▂▃▃▄▅▄▂▃▃▂▄▅▄▅▂▂▁▂▂▂▃▂▃▄▂▂▅▅▅▆▃▃▂▃▅▃▅▆▃▄▂▅▂▂▂▃▂▂▄ ▕ IPFS upstream: ▃▁▄▃▃▄▃▃▂▃▂▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▃▂▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▂▃▂▄▂▂▂▃▂▃▁▁▃▁▂▁▁▃▁▂▂▂▂▁▂ ⟲
T 1610835888 18<28techrights-bot>#ProprietarySoftware and #DigitalRestrictions (DRM) • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146561 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/16/#latest
T 1610835888 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software and Digital Restrictions (DRM) | Tux Machines
T 1610836083 18<28techrights-bot><li><h5><a href=""></a></h5>
T 1610836103 18<28techrights-bot>#Programming Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146562 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/16/#latest
T 1610836103 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
T 1610836623 18<28techrights-bot>Software: DUF, #Systemd Applet, and #PDF • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146563 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1610836623 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Software: DUF, Systemd Applet, and PDF | Tux Machines
T 1610836864 18<28techrights-bot>today’s leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146564 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/16/#latest
T 1610836864 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines
T 1610837075 18<28techrights-bot>Links 16/1/2021: #LibreOffice 7.1 Release Candidate, #Zeroshell 3.9.5, #FreeBSD Report, and #GhostBSD 21.01.15 • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/16/freebsd-report/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/16/#latest
T 1610837075 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Links 16/1/2021: LibreOffice 7.1 Release Candidate, Zeroshell 3.9.5, FreeBSD Report, and GhostBSD 21.01.15 | Techrights
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T 1610837501 18<28techrights-bot>#techrights to publish some #fsf secrets soon
T 1610837565 18<28techrights-bot>"if the user wants to know who or what is lurking behind the house… the user needs to view live streams of surveillance cams on GNU Linux." https://dwaves.de/2021/01/16/gnu-linux-debian-and-others-how-to-view-play-rtsp-surveillance-and-webcam-and-other-cams-streams-with-mplayer/
T 1610837567 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06» GNU Linux Debian and others – how to view play RTSP (surveillance and webcam and other cams) streams with mplayer | dwaves.de
T 1610837614 18<28techrights-bot>#AMD + Older #Intel CPUs To See Much Faster AES-NI XTS Crypto Performance On Linux 5.12 - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AES-NI-XTS-Direct-Linux-5.12 •●• #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧
T 1610837614 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06AMD + Older Intel CPUs To See Much Faster AES-NI XTS Crypto Performance On Linux 5.12 - Phoronix
T 1610837657 18<28techrights-bot>#Radeon #Vulkan "RADV" Driver Saw Many Optimizations This Week For Mesa 21.0 - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Squeezing-More-RADV-For-Mesa-21 •●• #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux
T 1610837658 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Radeon Vulkan "RADV" Driver Saw Many Optimizations This Week For Mesa 21.0 - Phoronix
T 1610838589 18<29techrights-ipfs> ▕ IPFS downstream, 35 mins: ▂▂▃▄▂▂▅▂▄▃▄▃▄▁▂▂▃▃▄▆▃▅▂▃▂▂▂▄▂▂▃▃▅▃▃▂▃▃▄▂▅▃▂ ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▃▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▂▃▁▂▁▃▂▂▃▂▄▄▁▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▃▃▁▂▂▃▃▁▂▂ ⟲
T 1610838595 18<28MinceR>https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/17/511d40e785a9f611.jpg
T 1610838630 18<28techrights-bot>`ECS Announces the LIVA Q1A and the LIVA Q1A Plus http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146272#comment-27832
T 1610838630 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | ECS Liva Q1A is a 2.9 inch mini PC that runs Android or Ubuntu | Tux Machines
T 1610838672 18<28techrights-bot>"A browser, as its name implies, is meant for browsing the Web. It is not meant to be used as a text editor" https://www.maketecheasier.com/find-and-replace-text-chrome-firefox/
T 1610838672 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.maketecheasier.com | How to Find and Replace Text in Chrome and Firefox - Make Tech Easier
T 1610838770 18<28techrights-bot>COVID solution https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/17/511d40e785a9f611.jpg
T 1610838950 18<29techrights-ipfs> ▕ IPFS downstream, 35 mins: ▂▄▃▄▃▄▁▂▂▃▃▄▆▃▅▂▃▂▂▂▄▂▂▃▃▅▃▃▂▃▃▄▂▅▃▂▅▃▂▃▃▃▃ avg(k/sec) 13.26 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▂▂▂▃▁▂▁▃▂▂▃▂▄▄▁▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▃▃▁▂▂▃▃▁▂▂▃▃▃▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 9.30 ⟲
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T 1610839414 18<29schestowitz>I've changed the graph to 2-minute sample points and average over 60 points
T 1610839429 18<29techrights-ipfs> ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▆▅▂▂▂▃▃▂▃▂▃▅▂▃▃▂▃▄▂▅▄▄▄▂▄▄▃▃▅▂▃▄▅▄ avg(k/sec) 13.83 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▃▄▁▂▂▂▂▃▂▃▂▃▃▂▃▄▅▂▃▃▂▃▃▄▃▃▃▂▅▃▃▂▃ avg(k/sec) 9.75 ⟲
T 1610839448 18<29schestowitz>it seems to have worked OK
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T 1610842089 18<28techrights-bot>Suppressed Facts of the #FreeSoftware Movement and Its Community of Volunteers – Part II: Why Bradley Kuhn Left the Free Software Foundation ( @FSF ) • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/16/why-bradley-kuhn-left/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW
T 1610842089 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Suppressed Facts of the Free Software Movement and Its Community of Volunteers – Part II: Why Bradley Kuhn Left the Free Software Foundation (FSF) | Techrights
T 1610842295 18<28techrights-bot>#gnu "libsigsegv version 2.13 is released." http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=9918 #freesw
T 1610842295 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606savannah.gnu.org | libsigsegv - News: libsigsegv 2.13 is released [Savannah]
T 1610842306 18<28techrights-bot>The founder of the #FSF is still at the @FSF (albeit not publicly) and the person who lobbied to oust him has basically been ‘banished’ by the founder http://techrights.org/2021/01/16/why-bradley-kuhn-left/
T 1610842342 18<26psydroid>https://www.imaginationtech.com/blog/back-in-the-high-performance-game/
T 1610842342 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.imaginationtech.com | Back in the high-performance game - Imagination
T 1610842437 18<29schestowitz>"we were debating whether to promote the more cloud and desktop-focused cores."
T 1610842443 18<29schestowitz>psydroid: clown cores
T 1610842450 18<29schestowitz>whatzdat?
T 1610842482 18<29schestowitz>do they perform better in high humidity conditions?
T 1610842531 18<29schestowitz>"your next computer will have operating conditions inclusive of the steam room"
T 1610842540 18<26psydroid>schestowitz, Imagination Technologies partnering up with companies to bring GPUs with their chips back to the desktop, presumably with free drivers this time around
T 1610842563 18<29schestowitz>Phoronix used to write about them
T 1610842567 18<28MinceR>i hope they fail
T 1610842576 18<29schestowitz>I dislike them
T 1610842578 18<28MinceR>they deserve to fail for what they've done
T 1610842581 18<29schestowitz>based on what I read from Micahel
T 1610842588 18<29schestowitz>Larabel, sorry typo
T 1610842697 18<26psydroid>I met this guy from Imagination Technologies at the SiFive event a year and a half ago and I was like "wait and see" after hearing, but not actually having experienced, what they did with PowerVR before
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T 1610852204 18<26psydroid>https://www.extremetech.com/computing/319187-new-beagle-board-offers-dual-core-risc-v-targets-ai-applications
T 1610852205 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06New Beagle Board Offers Dual-Core RISC-V, Targets AI Applications - ExtremeTech
T 1610852297 18<26psydroid>it mentions an updated version of the SoC with 4 cores instead of 2 for the second version of the board with the Imagination GPU
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T 1610855670 31<kingoffrance>30MinceR, except under that definition of law v legal spirit of law/law is defined as "by right" similar to de jure versus de facto its defined as "right" "correct" "what is right" "what is true" etc.
T 1610855703 31<kingoffrance>30i mean, you can recurse forever, sure
T 1610855755 31<kingoffrance>30put another way: it assumes there is some concept of truth
T 1610856016 31<kingoffrance>30"i have arranged things so even if i am wrong, i am still right" -- attributed to marx ; i would say its liket hat
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T 1610858090 18<19DaemonFC[m]><schestowitz "DaemonFC: lemonade?!"> Renter's insurance company.
T 1610858108 18<19DaemonFC[m]>For a few months after the riots, they locked people out from changing their policies.
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T 1610858723 18<19DaemonFC[m]>https://jalopnik.com/audis-hilarious-unintentional-goatse-billboard-5794908
T 1610858724 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606jalopnik.com | Audi's hilarious unintentional Goatse billboard
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T 1610862447 18<29schestowitz>DaemonFC[m]: I thought they had disappeared like a decade back
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T 1610862765 18<29schestowitz>http://groklaw.net/ is back online!
T 1610862766 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606groklaw.net | Groklaw - Digging for Truth
T 1610862850 18<29schestowitz>But without the comments http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20130815114627670&title=NSA+broke+privacy+rules%3A+WaPo+spiked+NSA%92s+director+of+compliance+90+min.+interview+with+Gellman&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=1057128#c1057292
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T 1610862853 18<29schestowitz>it is cached
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T 1610865310 18<29schestowitz>https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1232738-freebsd-continues-work-on-ridding-its-base-of-gpl-licensed-software
T 1610865311 18<29schestowitz>"
T 1610865311 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06FreeBSD Continues Work On Ridding Its Base Of GPL-Licensed Software - Phoronix Forums
T 1610865312 18<29schestowitz>> Ridding Its Base Of GPL-Licensed Software
T 1610865314 18<29schestowitz>> moving from Subversion to Git
T 1610865315 18<29schestowitz>LOL
T 1610865317 18<29schestowitz>"
T 1610865355 18<29schestowitz>"let kill GNU in the process while we are at it"
T 1610865400 18<29schestowitz>"This is the last thing they should care about IMO. The OS is on brink of irrelevancy and they blunder about with 30 year old licensing flame war issues. I used to really love freeBSD back in the 2000s but they were already kinda stuck in the past back then. Never looked back since I found Arch."
T 1610865443 18<29schestowitz>"Even BSD trolls are gone."
T 1610866546 18<29schestowitz>Ariadne: "In short it is necessary to update your IT Disaster Recovery Plan if you are relying on resources physically based in the United States, I think. Nobody is quite sure what exactly is coming down the pike. "
T 1610866548 18<29schestowitz>http://coyote.works//posts/EarlySunday20210117/
T 1610866549 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606coyote.works | Considering Preparedness
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T 1610871710 18<20Techrights-sec>https://dilbert.com/strip/2021-01-17
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T 1610873085 18<29schestowitz>That Dilbert thing says what I've been saying for months, same couple of words :-)
T 1610873121 18<29schestowitz>Dilbert Web pages now contain malware; better to just link directly to the image (cartoon) inside them to bypass the crap.
T 1610873448 18<28techrights-bot>#VPN Providers with Custom Clients for Linux • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146566 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/17/#latest
T 1610873448 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | VPN Providers with Custom Clients for Linux | Tux Machines
T 1610873448 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
T 1610873458 18<28techrights-bot>"I predicted that IBM would dump a big division and essentially remake itself as Red Hat, its Linux company. Well yes and no." https://www.cringely.com/2021/01/15/bobs-2021-tech-predictions-what-a-difference-a-pandemic-makes/
T 1610873459 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Bob’s 2021 Tech Predictions: What a Difference a Pandemic Makes | I, Cringely
T 1610873492 18<20Techrights-sec>I have scripts turned off.
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T 1610873526 18<28techrights-bot>New Beagle Board Offers Dual-Core RISC-V http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146431#comment-27833
T 1610873527 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Seeed launches BeagleV, a $150 RISC-V computer designed to run Linux | Tux Machines
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T 1610873571 18<28techrights-bot>http://groklaw.net/ is back online! #groklaw was down for over 2 months. But without the comments, it is cached still.
T 1610873572 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606groklaw.net | Groklaw - Digging for Truth
T 1610873659 18<28techrights-bot>#Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, January 16, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
T 1610873660 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Bulletin Archives
T 1610873669 18<28techrights-bot>#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
T 1610873669 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index
T 1610873768 18<28techrights-bot>4 big lessons from my internship with #freeSW • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146568 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/17/#latest
T 1610873768 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | 4 big lessons from my internship with open source | Tux Machines
T 1610873828 18<28techrights-bot>#Android Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146569 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/17/#latest
T 1610873828 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
T 1610873916 18<28techrights-bot>After #Parler #Google Targets Blockchain-based ‘Free Speech’ Social Network #Minds • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146565
T 1610873917 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | After Parler, Google Targets Blockchain-based ‘Free Speech’ Social Network Minds | Tux Machines
T 1610873927 18<28techrights-bot>Misusing buzzwords as propaganda for illegal #softwarepatents at the rogue #EPO ttps://www.itproportal.com/features/patenting-ai-and-protecting-intellectual-property/ #swpats
T 1610873946 18<28techrights-bot>"patent as granted appeared doubtful, as the patent had been upheld only in amended form by the European Patent Office (EPO) Opposition Division, with an appeal pending. [...] court dismissed Sanofi's preliminary injunction request again" https://www.internationallawoffice.com/Newsletters/Intellectual-Property/Spain/Grau-Angulo/Second-preliminary-injunction-request-based-on-amended-form-of-patent-dismissed
T 1610873947 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.internationallawoffice.com | Second preliminary injunction request based on amended form of patent dismissed - Newsletters - International Law Office
T 1610874002 18<28techrights-bot>Companies that bet on #patents rather than products https://www.indiainfoline.com/article/news-top-story/trident-stocks-gains-2-on-patent-grant-for-fabric-and-method-of-manufacturing-by-epo-121011500393_1.html
T 1610874003 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.indiainfoline.com | Trident stocks gains 2% on patent grant for 'Fabric and Method of Manufacturing' by EPO
T 1610874019 18<28techrights-bot>" #Daimler responded by challenging the validity of the #Nokia patents at the #EPO and at the German Federal Patent Court." @fosspatents https://www.worldipreview.com/news/nokia-draws-first-blood-in-daimler-validity-battle-20587
T 1610874019 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.worldipreview.com | Nokia draws first blood in Daimler validity battle
T 1610874028 18<28techrights-bot>Mesa's Lima Driver Finally Implements OpenGL Shader Cache Support - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mesa-Lima-Shader-Cache •●• #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/17/#latest
T 1610874028 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Mesa's Lima Driver Finally Implements OpenGL Shader Cache Support - Phoronix
T 1610874086 18<28techrights-bot>Highly disturbing to see bribed Sen. #ChrisCoons (D-DE), Sen. #ThomTillis (R-NC), and #USPTO Director Andre #Iancu in the same room/forum lobbying for patent maximalism as if the #patent office is, by proxy, controlled by litigation fanatics/profiteers rather than science, using bribes https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/01/gipc-inta-ipo-online-event-on-american-innovation.html
T 1610874087 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: GIPC, INTA & IPO Online Event on American Innovation
T 1610874100 18<28techrights-bot>"The OS is on brink of irrelevancy and they blunder about with 30 year old licensing flame war issues. I used to really love #freeBSD back in the 2000s but they were already kinda stuck in the past back then. Never looked back since I found Arch." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1232738-freebsd-continues-work-on-ridding-its-base-of-gpl-licensed-software/page2
T 1610874100 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06FreeBSD Continues Work On Ridding Its Base Of GPL-Licensed Software - Phoronix Forums
T 1610874147 18<28techrights-bot>"I presented what I learnt about #nodejs packaging in Debian. This time, I started using #Emacs for presentation, presenting PDF file. This week I switched most of my login shells to emacsclient, and experimenting." http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/diary/daily/2021-Jan-17.html.en#2021-Jan-17-10:39:44
T 1610874148 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.netfort.gr.jp | Yesterday was our monthly Debian meeting.
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T 1610881973 18<28techrights-bot>Voltage Measurement HAT for #RaspberryPi offers 16-bit analog inputs • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146567 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1610881973 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Voltage Measurement HAT for Raspberry Pi offers 16-bit analog inputs | Tux Machines
T 1610882001 18<26psydroid><techrights-bot ""The OS is on brink of irrelevan"> I've told the FreeBSD POWER developers it hasn't worked on my Powermac G5 since 2018, but they don't appear to do anything about it. And where else is it really relevant anymore? Does it even still work on real x86 hardware?
T 1610882007 18<28techrights-bot>"There is no end to my amazement of the openSUSE community. They do such a fantastic job of making a wonderful distribution with all the tools that keep me productive." https://cubiclenate.com/2021/01/16/opensuse-smiles/
T 1610882007 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06openSUSE Smiles – CubicleNate's Techpad
T 1610882013 18<28techrights-bot>#IRC Proceedings: Saturday, January 16, 2021 • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/irc-log-160121/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW
T 1610882014 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, January 16, 2021 | Techrights
T 1610882022 18<28techrights-bot>#clinicalTrials #safety #efficacy https://assets.amuniversal.com/55ffd49027a501393db0005056a9545d https://dilbert.com/strip/2021-01-17 #dilbert
T 1610882022 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Vaccine - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2021-01-17 | Dilbert by Scott Adams
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T 1610883562 18<29schestowitz>psydroid: want to help with next Intel part?
T 1610883568 18<29schestowitz>I drafted the main text and the video is ready
T 1610883581 18<29schestowitz>I'm sure you may have stories to tell about what's shown there
T 1610883654 18<26psydroid>schestowitz: sure, let me do it now before I head off for some time
T 1610883773 18<29schestowitz>psydroid: http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/intel-testing-with-windows/
T 1610883774 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | InteLeaks – Part XVII: The High Cost of Microsoft Windows Users in GNU/Linux Development Teams | Techrights
T 1610883783 18<29schestowitz>very roughly drafted as yet
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T 1610884303 18<28techrights-bot>#InteLeaks – Part XVII: The High Cost of #Microsoft #Windows Users in #GNU / #Linux Development Teams http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/intel-testing-with-windows/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
T 1610884304 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights
T 1610884799 18<28techrights-bot>#microsoft holding #linux back with #swpats trap https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=exFAT-Delete-Files-Dirsync-Opt •●• #Kernel #Linux
T 1610884800 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Linux's exFAT Driver Will Soon Be Able To Delete Big Files Much Faster - Phoronix
T 1610884968 18<28techrights-bot>Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146570 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1610884969 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
T 1610885006 18<26psydroid>I find it difficult to understand's Intel's line of reasoning when it comes to hiring people for DX, as the company where I worked in mixed Linux/Unix/Windows environments gave adequate training to new hires to fill any gaps in Linux knowledge and skills.I also always made sure to test scripts and code in the environment they were supposed to run in in order to minimise the chance of bugs occurring and to get as close t
T 1610885006 18<26psydroid>the customer environment as possible. This really helped when working on solutions to problems, so it is disappointing to see Intel not having similar levels of documentation and support.
T 1610885012 18<26psydroid>Intel doesn't seem to see the urgency in doing this and it makes you question if they don't want that training effort to be made. This in turn will lead to more people with an MS background being employed until there are few if any people with GNU/Linux skills left.
T 1610885085 18<29schestowitz>thanks, I will add this
T 1610885089 18<26psydroid>Last but not least I realise now that it is a good thing that the people who do the actual technical work should also be the ones writing the documentation, even if this takes time away from doing other technical work
T 1610885146 18<26psydroid>Sure, feel free to rephrase and omit certain things that are irrelevant, but I have tried to be on topic as much as possible
T 1610885249 18<29schestowitz>yes, it covers it
T 1610885253 18<29schestowitz>from anorher person's pov
T 1610885345 18<29schestowitz>ok, refresh if you wish to review (the page)
T 1610885357 18<26psydroid>ok
T 1610885426 18<26psydroid>yes, it looks good like this
T 1610885434 18<26psydroid>I didn't find any typos either
T 1610885461 18<28techrights-bot>A look inside #Intel explains what holds back the technical team, which bemoans the lesser technical people getting in the way and not even using the product that they are writing about http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/intel-testing-with-windows/
T 1610885477 18<29schestowitz>typos inside quotes are less of a liability... to me personally
T 1610885491 18<29schestowitz>so it's fair for the quoted person to have a chance to recheck
T 1610885504 18<29schestowitz>I think more Intel insiders are catching up with this series
T 1610885521 18<29schestowitz>almost 10k views per day this past week (for the videos)
T 1610885548 18<29schestowitz>the week earlier less. It grew 50% in one week.
T 1610885559 18<26psydroid>"an Microsoft background" <- I guess that should be "a"
T 1610885576 18<29schestowitz>I really need to get better equipment, but stores are shut and I need physical access to access and possibility of returns
T 1610885600 18<29schestowitz>fixed, psydroid
T 1610885701 18<26psydroid>reading this article series makes me realise how hard it must be to acquire people with GNU/Linux knowledge and to retain them, my employers were always begging me to stay on even when I had already decided to leave (for similar reasons as mentioned in this article series)
T 1610885746 18<26psydroid>and as we talked about yesterday this does seem to be a bit of a battle between business and technical people who will be at the top of current and future companies
T 1610885759 18<26psydroid>the suits fear they are losing out in a tech-savvy society
T 1610885855 18<29schestowitz>yeah, we have the same issue
T 1610885858 18<29schestowitz>in our company
T 1610885872 18<29schestowitz>so this is an interesting bunch of docs to cover
T 1610885879 18<29schestowitz>I have more docs to go through after this one
T 1610885942 18<29schestowitz>one way to starve GAFAM is to make sure people feel shy to apply for a job there
T 1610885948 18<29schestowitz>except those who lack the skills
T 1610885954 18<29schestowitz>EPO has had similar issues
T 1610885970 18<29schestowitz>no pesona with a phd would be dumb enough to seek employment there now
T 1610885976 18<29schestowitz>*person
T 1610886003 18<29Ariadne>schestowitz: yes i am concerned that we may lose section 230 as a result of all of this, which would be a tragedy
T 1610886046 18<29schestowitz>Ariadne: [09:03] <techrights-bot> After #Parler #Google Targets Blockchain-based ‘Free Speech’ Social Network #Minds • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146565
T 1610886047 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | After Parler, Google Targets Blockchain-based ‘Free Speech’ Social Network Minds | Tux Machines
T 1610886057 18<29schestowitz>what the actual f?
T 1610886058 18<29Ariadne>though i do not believe section 230 applies to parler anyway, considering its users were using it to plan the execution of crimes
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T 1610886065 18<29schestowitz>unless parlers [sic] immigrated to MINDS
T 1610886074 18<29schestowitz>and even then, this should raise questions
T 1610886081 18<29schestowitz>afaik, MINDS is AWS-hosted (still)
T 1610886090 18<29schestowitz>so they might be next to get deplatformed
T 1610886100 18<29schestowitz>because of the Trump supporters who are there
T 1610886102 18<29schestowitz>(many are not)
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T 1610886105 18<29Ariadne>MINDS has a ton of alt-right
T 1610886111 18<29schestowitz>but still
T 1610886114 18<29schestowitz>you go after this
T 1610886118 18<29schestowitz>and then some masta instances
T 1610886123 18<29schestowitz>and what have we left?
T 1610886130 18<29schestowitz>Twitter used to have loads of alt-reich
T 1610886133 18<29Ariadne>anyway, i do not believe this is the responsibility of google and apple
T 1610886133 18<29schestowitz>it still has some
T 1610886149 18<29Ariadne>it is the responsibility of hosting providers to ensure downstreams abide by AUP (and terminate if they do not)
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T 1610886193 18<29Ariadne>but regardless, parler was used to plan actual crmes, and i do not believe section 230 exempts that if you let it happen
T 1610886196 18<29schestowitz>it gives ways to derail companies
T 1610886200 18<29schestowitz>you can poison-pill them
T 1610886204 18<29schestowitz>with dummy accounts
T 1610886207 18<29schestowitz>no due process
T 1610886219 18<29Ariadne>of course, we will never know for sure because backpage.com founders took a plea agreement
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T 1610886229 18<29schestowitz>MINDS, afaik, did not get used to plan crimes
T 1610886246 18<29Ariadne>i don't know
T 1610886246 18<29schestowitz>plea bargain is not justice
T 1610886248 18<29schestowitz>it's extortion
T 1610886265 18<29Ariadne>i think parler was terminated because it was a liability to AWS
T 1610886272 18<29schestowitz>defies the very principle of fair trial
T 1610886273 18<29Ariadne>and if i were AWS i would likely have done the same
T 1610886274 18<29schestowitz>in the open
T 1610886283 18<29Ariadne>i like not having my door kicked in
T 1610886303 18<29Ariadne>though, allegedly, Parler was paying AWS $300k monthly
T 1610886304 18<29schestowitz>rarely happens here :-)
T 1610886312 18<29Ariadne>which raises many questions
T 1610886316 18<29schestowitz>SWAT teams... what are they even called here?
T 1610886323 18<29Ariadne>they had like 8 million users
T 1610886334 18<29Ariadne>why would you need $300k in infrastructure to support that
T 1610886338 18<29schestowitz>Parler was subsidised by Mercers
T 1610886339 18<29Ariadne>that's a lot of infrastructure
T 1610886346 18<29Ariadne>even at AWS pricing
T 1610886349 18<29schestowitz>it's like a Trump PAC basically
T 1610886379 18<29schestowitz>clown computing is not cheap
T 1610886391 18<29schestowitz>$1000 a month can be like a couple dozen busy servers
T 1610886395 18<29Ariadne>anyway, the solution is and has always been micro-instances that can be managed by anyone
T 1610886410 18<29schestowitz>20x300=6000
T 1610886424 18<29schestowitz>but you would not need 6000 instances (shared) for just 8 million mindless idiots
T 1610886435 18<29schestowitz>that's like 1 per 1k users
T 1610886448 18<29schestowitz>and less than 10% would be logged in at one time
T 1610886456 18<29schestowitz>mayeb the developers are awful
T 1610886460 18<29schestowitz>and cannot code properly :-)
T 1610886471 18<29schestowitz>Trump supporters, you know...
T 1610886485 18<29Ariadne>it turns out the CTO of parler used to be a client of mine when he was in high school
T 1610886505 18<29Ariadne>he ran a small cpanel webhosting and a popular furry art website
T 1610886571 18<29Ariadne>ok
T 1610886573 18<29schestowitz>weev was a CTO for daily stormer iirc
T 1610886584 18<29schestowitz>maybe something at gab, too
T 1610886591 18<29Ariadne>daily stormer yeah
T 1610886598 18<29schestowitz>their cto quit when the shtf
T 1610886611 18<29schestowitz>how's that on their cv?
T 1610886627 18<29schestowitz>maybe they can aim even lower afterwards
T 1610886634 18<29Ariadne>well, how is "CTO of neo nazi site" on a CV anyway
T 1610886635 18<29schestowitz>outsourcing to aws was a bad decision, too
T 1610886655 18<29Ariadne>if somebody sent me a CV with daily stormer on it, that goes immediately to the trash
T 1610887133 18<29schestowitz>there is also criminal record and arrest
T 1610887140 18<29schestowitz>2-3 years in prison, iirc
T 1610887151 18<29schestowitz>and all that (was it?) gaotse stuff
T 1610887159 18<29schestowitz>maybe ngaa or whatever that was called
T 1610887163 18<29schestowitz>*goatse
T 1610887274 18<26psydroid><schestowitz "except those who lack the skills"> for those who lack skills GAFAM is a godsend, because they can build a a career, get a decent salary and generally punch above their weight with or without realising it's all just an illusion and they didn't really contribute anything of value to society but rather detracted from it
T 1610887318 18<28techrights-bot>"On this episode of This Week in Linux, we’ve got an update for you about a CentOS alternative from CloudLinux called AlmaLinux" https://tuxdigital.com/2021/01/thisweekinlinux-134/
T 1610887318 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06134: WINE 6.0, Flatpak 1.10, Fedora Kinoite, Slimbook Titan, AlmaLinux, JingOS - TuxDigital
T 1610887359 18<29schestowitz>Riding VC and later military budget
T 1610887375 18<29schestowitz>to maintain imperialism domination over businesses and people
T 1610887381 18<29schestowitz>*imperialistic
T 1610887396 18<29schestowitz>Their budget will run out
T 1610887410 18<29schestowitz>the debt room cannot be raised about 30 trillion when GDP isn't increasing anymore
T 1610887415 18<29schestowitz>*debt roof
T 1610887422 18<29schestowitz>*above
T 1610887558 18<28CrystalMath>in the end all those websites will have to go snowden
T 1610887564 18<28CrystalMath>and be hosted in russia
T 1610887582 18<28CrystalMath>with a russian domain registrar
T 1610887601 18<29vZS1_2>You don't want to be the documentation person. Everybody hates you no matter how much you try.
T 1610887684 18<29vZS1_2>Have written/patched a lot of documentation. Thankless job.
T 1610887693 18<28techrights-bot>#freebsd New committer: Lutz Donnerhacke (src) https://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash.html#event20210114:01 #bsd #unix
T 1610887694 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.freebsd.org | FreeBSD News Flash
T 1610887779 18<28techrights-bot>#WordPress Post Vs. Page http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/wordpress-post-vs-page #gpl #freesw
T 1610887780 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.linuxandubuntu.com | WordPress Post Vs. Page
T 1610887934 21<MinceR>21kingoffrance: i see. too bad marx was extremely and obviously wrong :>
T 1610887983 18<29schestowitz>[12:51] <vZS1_2> You don't want to be the documentation person. Everybody hates you no matter how much you try.
T 1610887989 18<29schestowitz>it helps if you use what you write about
T 1610887999 18<29schestowitz>I would not write documentation about Vista 10
T 1610888559 18<29vZS1_2>Most don't realise that writing docs is a separate kind of project altogether.
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T 1610888611 18<29vZS1_2>You've got to decide on how much depth to go into, which bits are to serve as a spec for behaviour or just recording current behaviour, target audience, etc..
T 1610888680 18<29vZS1_2>Then there's maintenance, changes between versions
T 1610888692 18<29schestowitz>editions
T 1610888702 18<29vZS1_2>For big programs, you have to coordinate between the different specialists for the respective parts of the docs
T 1610888716 18<29vZS1_2>It can end up eating more resources than the actual code
T 1610888801 18<26psydroid>I hated it too and often fell short of my targets, but I realised there wasn't any better person to do it. And yes, it needs to be budgeted in terms of time and money, because it takes away from doing actual technical work.
T 1610888838 18<26psydroid>For Intel not to be able to hire a full-time person with GNU/Linux knowledge and technical writing skills is a bit of an embarrassment
T 1610888877 18<29vZS1_2>Yeah. Technical writing is its own specialised job. You need to be able to write and program and not everyone has that skillset.
T 1610888937 18<29schestowitz>Those people do exist
T 1610888942 18<29schestowitz>Intel is too cheap to pursue them
T 1610888948 18<29schestowitz>or they don't want to work for Intel
T 1610888956 18<29schestowitz>and that, in turns, puts off the devs
T 1610888960 18<29schestowitz>so good luck with that....
T 1610888997 18<29schestowitz>I am going to explore InterPlanetary Name System soon
T 1610888999 18<29schestowitz>maybe today
T 1610889012 18<29schestowitz>as it seems things have stabilised, except our Internet connection
T 1610889062 18<29schestowitz>BTW, any way to more or less know /what/ CIDs are being accessed?
T 1610889070 18<29schestowitz>or estimated, at least on the local node?
T 1610889071 18<29vZS1_2>You'd have to look in the logs
T 1610889081 18<29schestowitz>would be nice to know more than what sharks are moving in and out
T 1610889081 18<29vZS1_2>each DHT request is logged
T 1610889091 18<29schestowitz>logs in /var/log?
T 1610889093 18<29vZS1_2>Let me look up the command, sec.
T 1610889165 18<29vZS1_2>`$ ipfs log --help` is the starting point.
T 1610889179 18<29vZS1_2>Then you look for the appropriate subsystem.
T 1610889190 18<29vZS1_2>With `$ ipfs log ls` (which lists all the subsystems).
T 1610889250 18<29vZS1_2>I get 87 for `$ ipfs log ls | wc -l`
T 1610889256 18<29vZS1_2>So you've got a lot to look through
T 1610889290 18<29schestowitz>too many thing there...
T 1610889305 18<29schestowitz>and I suppose a composition of commands would be needed
T 1610889326 18<29vZS1_2>I'm trying to check which one would be the most relevant for what you want (CID requests)
T 1610889404 18<29schestowitz>less -f <(for i in $(ipfs id | jq .Protocols[] | sed -n "s:\"\(.*\)\":\1:p");do echo "${i}"; ipfs stats bw --proto "${i}"; echo "---" ;done )
T 1610889417 18<29schestowitz>that one does not say which objects are accessed/requested more
T 1610889433 18<29schestowitz>But a breakdown of traffic types
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T 1610889436 18<29vZS1_2>That's just bandwidth stats. Nothing about CIDs
T 1610889460 18<29vZS1_2>I'm looking for the relevant command now
T 1610889468 18<29vZS1_2>Give me a bit
T 1610889590 18<29schestowitz>This can help understand what else to add to ipfs
T 1610889609 18<29schestowitz>we have the capacity to add more, I very much doubt our connection issues, the throttling, can be traced back to ipfs
T 1610889627 18<29schestowitz>as they said nothing to that effect and it used up similar traffic levels for 2 months (prior)
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T 1610890026 18<29schestowitz>Me: > I wonder what RMS's stance is on this...
T 1610890028 18<29schestowitz>Oliva: >
T 1610890029 18<29schestowitz>He's one of the friendly voices. He and I talked a lot about it.
T 1610890031 18<29schestowitz>My blog post on the 31st was really meant to be favorable to and optimistic about the FSF, but nobody, in or out, took it that way.
T 1610890032 18<29schestowitz>I watched the video about my resignation, and felt honored.
T 1610890034 18<29schestowitz>I appreciate your trust and support.
T 1610890036 18<29schestowitz>I wish I could say more.
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T 1610890580 18<29vZS1_2>I'm trying to see which part of `$ ipfs log tail` is actually going to give the CID request data.
T 1610890637 18<29vZS1_2>That's all JSON btw.
T 1610890648 18<29vZS1_2>So you can pretty-print it with jq(1)
T 1610890650 18<29vZS1_2>man jq
T 1610890670 18<29schestowitz>since it is decentralised I support it won't give complete figures anyway
T 1610890691 18<29vZS1_2>You should be able to get the relevant DHT data though. i.e., CID requests
T 1610890707 18<29vZS1_2>There's currently 2 logs for ipfs
T 1610890714 18<29vZS1_2>There's the stderr log from the daemon itself
T 1610890724 18<29vZS1_2>and the event log which you get from the `ipfs log` command.
T 1610890742 18<29vZS1_2>The event log is what we're interested in rn.
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T 1610891336 18<29vZS1_2>I looked up some Q/A on the forum and it seems like there's no standardised way of getting DHT events without running your own code to decipher the logs.
T 1610891345 18<29vZS1_2>See
T 1610891347 18<29vZS1_2>https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/how-to-listen-to-dht-communication/8038/8
T 1610891347 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06How to listen to DHT communication - #8 by dadepo - IPFS - discuss.ipfs.io
T 1610891348 18<29vZS1_2>and
T 1610891354 18<29vZS1_2>https://discuss.ipfs.io/t/getting-the-cid-from-dht-related-communication/8052
T 1610891355 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Getting the CID from DHT related communication - Help - discuss.ipfs.io
T 1610891416 18<29vZS1_2>Also, looks like I was wrong about which log to look at. Seems like DHT stuff is bundled in the stderr logs for the daemon.
T 1610891453 18<29schestowitz>interesting
T 1610891457 18<29schestowitz>well, that is fine
T 1610891463 18<29schestowitz>if that's the best that can be done
T 1610891668 18<29vZS1_2>All the important logs are in JSON though so it shouldn't be too much of a nightmare to parse.
T 1610891774 18<29vZS1_2>The issue here is the volume of data. Most of it is just DHT traffic for CIDs you probably don't have.
T 1610891784 18<29vZS1_2>So you'd need to filter out the relevant CIDs
T 1610892975 18<29schestowitz>coming soon: Suppressed Facts of the Free Software Movement and Its Community of Volunteers – Part III: The Free Software Foundation (FSF) Seems More Like a Victim of Destabilisation Campaigns
T 1610892984 18<29schestowitz>I will need to wait, video is 100mb
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T 1610893941 18<29vZS1_2>schestowitz: I just realised, Debian 10 doesn't ship with ed(1).
T 1610893957 18<29vZS1_2>Way to alienate the sysadmins.
T 1610893991 18<29schestowitz>you can install it
T 1610894006 18<29schestowitz>roy@vonick:~$ man ed
T 1610894008 18<29schestowitz>No manual entry for ed
T 1610894012 18<29schestowitz>and I installed almost all the DEs
T 1610894015 18<29schestowitz>except one
T 1610894029 18<29schestowitz>now that I'd expect a DE to grab ed with it
T 1610894030 18<29vZS1_2>The whole point of ed is it's a disaster-recovery tool
T 1610894054 18<29schestowitz>Debian is not a disaster yet
T 1610894056 18<29schestowitz>it can be
T 1610894061 18<29schestowitz>but I think they can recover
T 1610894077 18<29schestowitz>they are not yet on the "OSI spectrum"
T 1610894085 18<29schestowitz>very far from LF/SFC spectrum
T 1610894091 18<29schestowitz>FSFE also
T 1610894099 18<29schestowitz>FSF is recovering, I think
T 1610894117 18<29schestowitz>Gentoo had 2 posts in the past 2 days in their planet
T 1610894139 18<29schestowitz>these ones: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146546
T 1610894140 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Gentoo 2020 in retrospect & happy new year 2021! | Tux Machines
T 1610894168 18<29schestowitz>still waiting for anoher big even to shift many to FreeSW
T 1610894174 18<29schestowitz>COVID was a negative one
T 1610894179 18<29schestowitz>but it may have helped freeSW a lot
T 1610894191 18<29schestowitz>I think financial calamity in the US will boost FreeSW
T 1610894204 18<29schestowitz>as many of the "big tech" there rely on government funnelling of money to them
T 1610894212 18<29schestowitz>via the military or other means like corrupt contracts
T 1610894223 18<29schestowitz>when that stops the whole premise of clown computing will collapse
T 1610894233 18<29schestowitz>I'm told Azure is a major fiscal failure
T 1610894242 18<29schestowitz>and they keep faking its financial viability
T 1610894256 18<29schestowitz>Trump pumped about 10 BILLION DOLLARS into it via the military
T 1610894262 18<29schestowitz>just to keep the pile of crap afloat
T 1610894270 18<29schestowitz>while they actually laid off staff there
T 1610894474 18<29schestowitz>x https://hothardware.com/news/linux-vulnerability-found-by-kids
T 1610894475 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06A Couple Of Kids Discovered How To Break And Bypass Linux Mint Screensaver Lock | HotHardware
T 1610894476 18<29schestowitz># see instead: https://www.jwz.org/blog/2021/01/i-told-you-so-2021-edition/
T 1610894477 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.jwz.org | jwz: I told you so, 2021 edition
T 1610894485 18<29schestowitz>zdnet trolling came to HotHardware
T 1610894486 18<29schestowitz>same wording
T 1610894492 18<29schestowitz>some mocking and mobbing
T 1610894496 18<29schestowitz>with pictures of kids
T 1610894498 18<29schestowitz>wth?
T 1610894502 18<29schestowitz>'journalism'
T 1610894507 18<29schestowitz>Cimpanu
T 1610894516 18<29vZS1_2>Ubuntu still ships ed. So why doesn't Debian?
T 1610894519 18<29vZS1_2>Curious.
T 1610894731 18<28MinceR>https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/18/63b4c23ed8b73039.jpg
T 1610894801 18<29schestowitz>MinceR: ;)
T 1610894858 18<29schestowitz> (◕_◕)
T 1610894871 18<29schestowitz> -^^,--,~
T 1610894876 18<28MinceR>:)
T 1610894889 18<29schestowitz>🦊
T 1610894898 18<29vZS1_2>So Billy got a military contract to keep Azure afloat.
T 1610894900 18<29vZS1_2>Great.
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T 1610894985 18<29vZS1_2>The fox head reminds me of GitLab, whenever I see it.
T 1610895037 18<29schestowitz>depends on font/backend
T 1610895040 18<29schestowitz>don't trust a fox
T 1610895042 18<29schestowitz>or a wolf
T 1610895052 18<29schestowitz>gitlab already divides users into two lanes
T 1610895060 18<29schestowitz>and some lanes are directly controlled by the company
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T 1610895141 18<26psydroid>treacherous foxes have infiltrated our ranks
T 1610895218 18<29schestowitz>Michael J. Treachery
T 1610895331 18<28MinceR>:>
T 1610895375 18<28techrights-bot>3 steps to achieving Inbox Zero https://opensource.com/article/21/1/inbox-zero I stopped doing that as there's too much spam and it's better dealt with in bulk. I also check mail at most once a day.
T 1610895376 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-063 steps to achieving Inbox Zero | Opensource.com
T 1610895392 18<28MinceR>(cat) https://ircz.de/p/20071262
T 1610895393 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4749703)
T 1610895467 18<28techrights-bot>GCC's Profile Guided Optimization Performance With The Ryzen 9 5950X - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GCC-PGO-Benchmarks-5950X •●• #Phoronix #GCC 🐧 | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/17/#latest
T 1610895468 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06GCC's Profile Guided Optimization Performance With The Ryzen 9 5950X - Phoronix
T 1610895469 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
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T 1610895700 18<29vZS1_2>schestowitz: have you been getting many requests for the TR site archives lately?
T 1610895751 18<29schestowitz>not sure
T 1610895773 18<29schestowitz>i don't look deep into stats
T 1610895784 18<29schestowitz>unless we have ddos
T 1610895813 18<29schestowitz>once a week I check this month to see how many people request ogv and webm
T 1610895827 18<29schestowitz>just to know if it's worth it and whether to buy better gear after lockdown
T 1610895832 18<29schestowitz>second hand obviously...
T 1610896578 18<28techrights-bot>#EasyOS works on #RaspberryPi 3B with 1GB RAM • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146571 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1610896578 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | EasyOS works on Raspberry Pi 3B with 1GB RAM | Tux Machines
T 1610896804 18<28MinceR>https://explosm.net/comics/342/
T 1610896804 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net)
T 1610896839 18<28techrights-bot>#KDE Customization Guide: Here are 11 Ways You Can Change the Look and Feel of Your KDE-Powered Linux Desktop • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146572 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1610896840 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Customization Guide: Here are 11 Ways You Can Change the Look and Feel of Your KDE-Powered Linux Desktop | Tux Machines
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T 1610897157 18<28techrights-bot>Audiocasts/Shows: #TWIL and #GNU World Order • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146573 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1610897157 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: TWIL and GNU World Order | Tux Machines
T 1610897558 18<28techrights-bot>#Kernel and #Graphics : exFAT, Linux 5.12, Mesa’s Panfrost Gallium3D and Mesa 21.0 • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146574 •●• #Linux #Mesa
T 1610897558 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel and Graphics: exFAT, Linux 5.12, Mesa's Panfrost Gallium3D and Mesa 21.0 | Tux Machines
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T 1610898110 18<28techrights-bot>#Programming Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146575 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/17/#latest
T 1610898111 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
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T 1610898274 18<28MinceR>https://explosm.net/comics/445/
T 1610898275 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net)
T 1610898577 18<28techrights-bot>Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146576
T 1610898578 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines
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T 1610899700 18<28MinceR>https://hugelolcdn.com/i/718900.jpg
T 1610899751 18<28techrights-bot>Only one third of #patents at the #epo come from #eu applicants. Only a third now! http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/01/13/german-ratification-of-unified-patent-court-agreement-put-on-hold/#comment-37938
T 1610899751 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | German ratification of Unified Patent Court Agreement put on hold - Kluwer Patent Blog
T 1610899819 18<28techrights-bot>Links 17/1/2021: #EasyOS on #RaspberryPi and GNU #libsigsegv 2.13 • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/libsigsegv-2-13/
T 1610899819 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Links 17/1/2021: EasyOS on Raspberry Pi and GNU libsigsegv 2.13 | Techrights
T 1610899973 18<29schestowitz>http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/01/13/german-ratification-of-unified-patent-court-agreement-put-on-hold/#comments
T 1610899973 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | German ratification of Unified Patent Court Agreement put on hold - Kluwer Patent Blog
T 1610899974 18<29schestowitz>"
T 1610899976 18<29schestowitz>Do you really think that there is a need for a EPLA “light” for 8,8 % of granted EP? What good would it bring besides the hope of filling the pockets of a firm like yours?
T 1610899978 18<29schestowitz>Europe at large has been quite happy with the system as it stands. The UPC or the EPLC is only useful for lawyers firms and certainly not for European Industry, and especially not for European SMEs. .
T 1610899979 18<29schestowitz>On the other hand I have to acknowledge your perseverance with trying to pursue a project which is as useful as trying to sell a bra to a policeman.
T 1610899980 18<29schestowitz>"
T 1610899982 18<29schestowitz>zoobab: ^
T 1610900126 18<29schestowitz>"I can agree at a pinch with Peter Parker that the quorum was achieved, but the members of Bundestag and Bundesrat were wilfully misled in the explanatory note. They agreed on ratification without having received the necessary information. The explanatory note for the new ratification bill expresses no more than the wishes of the lawyers lobbying for a quick start of the UPC, as they expect to fill their pockets. That the lawyers
T 1610900128 18<29schestowitz>involved get on top the support of the European Commission is adding insult to injury. "
T 1610900307 18<29schestowitz>"Let’s face it, the UPC is no more than a further source of profit for internationally active litigation firms helping the big industry. All major internationally active litigation lawyers firms participated in committee setting up of the rules of procedure of the UPC. All its members were co-opted. This says it all."
T 1610900393 18<29schestowitz>"For this reason, I have absolutely no doubt that the UPC’s strongest supporters will now proceed to argue long and hard that the two new complaints should be immediately dismissed and/or that, irrespective of the complaints, the Bundespräsident should be allowed to sign the new law. However, it is another question entirely whether I will have the stomach to endure the endless rounds of fantastical (and nakedly self-serving)
T 1610900395 18<29schestowitz>arguments that will be generated to this end."
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T 1610901956 18<28MinceR>(cat) https://ircz.de/p/2007124
T 1610901957 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4747702)
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T 1610903401 18<28techrights-bot>Postgresql service failed because the control process exited with an error code • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146577 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1610903401 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Postgresql service failed because the control process exited with an error code | Tux Machines
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T 1610903768 18<28techrights-bot>#fake #clinicalTrials ... at this point we lack actual evidence that the "real" or "genuine" so-called 'vaccines' are both safe and effective; they leapfrogged years of testing https://www.marques.org/blogs/class46/?XID=BHA4955
T 1610903770 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.marques.org | MARQUES
T 1610903794 18<28MinceR>(audio:important) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/718852.mp4
T 1610903819 18<28techrights-bot>"On 11 November 2020, the Standing Committee of National People’s Congress of China passed the amendments to the #China #Copyright Law." https://www.marques.org/blogs/class99/
T 1610903891 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.marques.org | MARQUES
T 1610903948 18<28techrights-bot>Issues in #SciHub Case ’A Matter of Public Importance’ | SpicyIP ⇨ https://spicyip.com/2021/01/issues-in-scihub-case-a-matter-of-public-importance.html •●• #spicyip #india #in
T 1610903948 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Issues in Sci-Hub Case ‘A Matter of Public Importance’ | SpicyIP
T 1610904041 18<20Techrights-sec>Ok
T 1610904042 18<20Techrights-sec>the coup attempt is now being whitewashed as a
T 1610904042 18<20Techrights-sec>"riot" instead by most of the media.
T 1610904042 18<20Techrights-sec>That has changed during the last day or so.
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T 1610904121 18<29schestowitz>[17:21] <MinceR> (audio:important) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/718852.mp4
T 1610904124 18<29schestowitz>weird
T 1610904192 18<29schestowitz>Techrights-sec: yes, now the GOP itself (coup plotter) is trying to pass new laws against protests, which are lawful and protected by the Constitution AFAIK, according to news reports
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T 1610904271 18<20Techrights-sec>Yeah the concerns have been that they will abuse this like the twin towers
T 1610904271 18<20Techrights-sec>attack was abused to ja through th PATRIOT act. They probbaly
T 1610904272 18<20Techrights-sec>have something worse on the shelf ready to go.\
T 1610904537 18<29schestowitz>I think the Daily Links I posted just now contain a report to that effect, but maybe the one prior to it. My upload speeds are painfully slow, still (waiting for the manager to phone back), so I have two large files in the queue and cannot publish until that's done.
T 1610904635 18<29schestowitz>Maybe in the name of 'harmonisation', post-Brexit UK will also ban protests in any form... to keep the "plebs" away from the "private property" of vaccine profiteers and people who control the whole freight/logistic, monopolising the market remotely
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T 1610904718 18<20Techrights-sec>Harmonization is often used like that.
T 1610904994 18<28MinceR>https://hugelolcdn.com/i/718864.jpg
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T 1610906495 18<25XRevan86>Navalny reached Moscow, now is taken away by the police.
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T 1610906513 18<29schestowitz>police=medics?
T 1610906527 18<29schestowitz>I read that even journalists were denied access to him at the airport
T 1610906557 18<29schestowitz>arrested and charged :) for embarrassing Putin and the KGB :-)
T 1610906572 18<25XRevan86>The aeroplane landed in Sheremetyevo instead of Vnukovo where Navalny was greeted by the police.
T 1610906589 18<25XRevan86>on passport control
T 1610906604 18<25XRevan86>https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/01/17/police-arrest-alexey-navalny-upon-arrival-in-moscow-russia-s-authorities-now-must-decide-what-to-do-with-him they're fast
T 1610906609 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606meduza.io | NO TITLE
T 1610906647 18<25XRevan86>I guess English Meduza was on its toes to translate quickly.
T 1610906802 18<25XRevan86>https://meduza.io/en/live/2021/01/17/alexey-navalny-returns-to-russia they even got this translated
T 1610906803 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606meduza.io | NO TITLE
T 1610906838 18<28techrights-bot>Careful not to conflate Microsoft proprietary software with Git, which is Free software. Git is not GitHub. https://www.linuxnix.com/pulling-changes-from-github-to-git/
T 1610906840 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.linuxnix.com | Pulling changes from GitHub to Git - The Linux Juggernaut
T 1610907103 18<28MinceR>why did Navalny go to russia?
T 1610907156 18<28MinceR>https://hugelolcdn.com/i/718599.jpg
T 1610907164 18<28techrights-bot>#Gentoo Saw Total Commits Rise By 42% In 2020 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146546#comment-27835 #gnu #linux
T 1610907164 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Gentoo 2020 in retrospect & happy new year 2021! | Tux Machines
T 1610907234 18<29schestowitz>MinceR: to make a point?
T 1610907268 18<28MinceR>at the cost of his own life and freedom?
T 1610907432 18<29schestowitz>martyrdom?
T 1610907440 18<29schestowitz>anyway, Putin would be unwise to harm him
T 1610907447 18<29schestowitz>the media is like vigilante
T 1610907465 18<28MinceR>what is the media going to do to putin?
T 1610907517 18<29schestowitz>good point
T 1610907520 18<29schestowitz>he quit caring
T 1610907524 18<29schestowitz>like his make MbS
T 1610907757 18<25XRevan86>MinceR: He did.
T 1610907777 18<28techrights-bot>#Corellium Posts Very Early #Linux Port To #Apple #M1 Macs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146229#comment-27836
T 1610907777 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Aha! This Project is Working to Bring Linux to Apple’s ARM-based M1 MacBooks | Tux Machines
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T 1610907894 18<28techrights-bot>How To Install #UbuntuMate On The Raspberry PI 400 https://raspberrypiuser.co.uk/how-to-install-ubuntu-mate-on-the-raspberry-pi-400 #gnu #linux
T 1610907895 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606raspberrypiuser.co.uk | How To Install Ubuntu Mate On The Raspberry PI 400 – Raspberry PI User
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T 1610908243 18<28techrights-bot>#Watchtroll starting with its cheap #propaganda for #litigation fanatics tonight: "Innovation [sic] Alliance Urges #Biden Administration to Support Patent Rights" Innovation? No. Litigation front. There are no "Patent Rights"... #patents are NOT rights!
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T 1610908397 18<28techrights-bot>#Trisquel 9 Review: Freedom Vehicle • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146578 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1610908397 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Trisquel 9 Review: Freedom Vehicle | Tux Machines
T 1610908810 18<28techrights-bot>Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146579 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1610908810 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
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T 1610909085 18<28techrights-bot>Youtubedl-gui: New Graphical #YouTube Downloader based on #YoutubeDL • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146581 #freesw
T 1610909086 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Youtubedl-gui: New Graphical YouTube Downloader based on Youtube-DL | Tux Machines
T 1610909221 18<28techrights-bot>#Android Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146580 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/17/#latest
T 1610909225 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
T 1610909226 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
T 1610909458 18<28techrights-bot>Suppressed Facts of the #FreeSoftware Movement and Its Community of Volunteers – Part III: The #FreeSoftwareFoundation (FSF) Seems More Like a Victim of Destabilisation Campaigns • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/fsf-destabilisation/ •●• #Techrights #FreeSW
T 1610909459 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Suppressed Facts of the Free Software Movement and Its Community of Volunteers – Part III: The Free Software Foundation (FSF) Seems More Like a Victim of Destabilisation Campaigns | Techrights
T 1610909938 18<19DaemonFC[m]>https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/16/tech/coronavirus-vaccine-records-microsoft-salesforce/index.html
T 1610909938 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Microsoft, Oracle and and other tech giants Salesforce team up Covid-19 vaccine 'passports' - CNN
T 1610909957 18<19DaemonFC[m]>schestowitz: Now they use "open source" to refer to something that's not even about open source software at all.
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T 1610910284 18<25XRevan86>scientes: Just tried postmarketOS 21.01 (time travel), still slower than Manjaro.
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T 1610913510 31<kingoffrance>30(from techrights-bot) "There are no "Patent Rights"... #patents are NOT rights!" yep. my understanding: they are gov-granted privileges. temporarily-granted "exclusive right" just like the legal v law thing, de jure v de facto. same issue essentially -- form v substance. possession, strictly, requires corporeal things. ideas are not corporeal https://definitions.uslegal.com/c/chose-in-action/ the idea reverts back to
T 1610913510 31<kingoffrance>30"public property" when the grant expires. thats not a right, thats a temporary privilege. even someone claiming god-given natural right to property: ideas arent corporeal, cant be strictly possessed/owned. incorporeal rights look to be "quasi possession"
T 1610913511 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606definitions.uslegal.com | Chose in Action Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.
T 1610913516 31<kingoffrance>30even better:
T 1610913570 31<kingoffrance>30http://dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2&Database=gcide&Query=possess For the same reason, we have the faculties of reason, understanding, will, sound judgment, etc.: they are exercises of the mind, not possessions.
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T 1610913580 18<19DaemonFC[m]>He who has the gold makes the rules.
T 1610913584 18<19DaemonFC[m]>It's the golden rule.
T 1610913585 31<kingoffrance>30what is an idea if not an "exercise of the mind"
T 1610913590 31<kingoffrance>30not disputing that :)
T 1610913596 31<kingoffrance>30thats same thing again
T 1610913636 18<19DaemonFC[m]>" US states are failing to provide unemployment compensation to all the unemployed workers that are trying to apply for it. " -RMS
T 1610913656 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Meanwhile, they give it out to millions of people who are filing fake claims to take advantage of the chaos and confusion.
T 1610913661 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Ironic, isn't it?
T 1610913703 18<28MinceR>(cat) "i am vengeance. i am the night." https://ircz.de/p/20122642
T 1610913704 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5128764)
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T 1610915413 18<28MinceR>https://www.theonion.com/fbi-uncovers-al-qaeda-plot-to-just-sit-back-and-enjoy-c-1819576375
T 1610915413 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.theonion.com | FBI Uncovers Al-Qaeda Plot To Just Sit Back And Enjoy Collapse Of United States
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T 1610918297 18<28MinceR>https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/fast
T 1610918297 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Fast
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T 1610919043 18<28techrights-bot>The #FreeSoftwareFoundation ( #FSF ), which turns 36 later this year, is looking to raise money that helps support the #GNU Project, soon 38 years old and likely the most important #Freesoftware project to exist (ever) http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/fsf-destabilisation/
T 1610919096 18<28techrights-bot>#AwesomeWM : So Long BSPWM, It's Been Fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2ArWwGN7lM #gnu #linux
T 1610919097 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06AwesomeWM: So Long BSPWM, It's Been Fun - YouTube
T 1610919190 18<28techrights-bot>#LibreWolf Is A Web Browser For #Privacy and Freedom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LVMkC82jpk
T 1610919191 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06LibreWolf Is A Web Browser For Privacy and Freedom - YouTube
T 1610919240 18<28techrights-bot>"In this video, we are looking at how to install #ONLYOFFICE on Linux Mint 20.1." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDZNQmuuAZI but #proprietarySoftware :/
T 1610919240 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06How to install ONLYOFFICE on Linux Mint 20.1 - YouTube
T 1610919428 18<28techrights-bot>#KDE Roadmap for 2021, #Nvidia now loves Wayland, and Epic Games Store on #GNU #Linux - Linux News https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKYrLhOjkfc
T 1610919429 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06KDE Roadmap for 2021, Nvidia now loves Wayland, and Epic Games Store on Linux - Linux News - YouTube
T 1610919610 18<28techrights-bot>#Linux 5.10.8 #Kernel Released - Finally Fixes That #Btrfs Performance Regression • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146582
T 1610919610 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.10.8 Kernel Released - Finally Fixes That Btrfs Performance Regression | Tux Machines
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T 1610919709 18<28MinceR>https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/lumpy
T 1610919710 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Lumpy
T 1610919795 18<28techrights-bot>"We had a peaceful week in the world of Linux Releases and only KaOS 2021.01 and ArcoLinux 21.03.1" https://www.linuxmadesimple.info/2021/01/linux-weekly-roundup-113.html
T 1610919795 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.linuxmadesimple.info | Linux Weekly Roundup #113
T 1610919830 18<28techrights-bot>"IRC is a good place to find answers. Often I find the questions found there to be even more enlightening." #rakulang #programming https://gfldex.wordpress.com/2021/01/17/introspective-labeling/
T 1610919830 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606gfldex.wordpress.com | Introspective labeling | Playing Perl 6␛b6xA Raku
T 1610920043 18<28techrights-bot>Shows/Videos: #GNU / #Linux News, #ONLYOFFICE , #LibreWolf , and #AwesomeWM • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146583
T 1610920044 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Shows/Videos: GNU/Linux News, ONLYOFFICE, LibreWolf, and AwesomeWM | Tux Machines
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T 1610923444 18<28techrights-bot>#InteLeaks – Part XVIII: #Intel Does Not Know How to Properly Do Research and It Seems Apparent Unscientific Methods Are Used to Justify Poor Documentation http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/intel-studies-and-findings/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
T 1610923444 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | InteLeaks – Part XVIII: Intel Does Not Know How to Properly Do Research and It Seems Apparent Unscientific Methods Are Used to Justify Poor Documentation | Techrights
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T 1610923695 18<28MinceR>(cat) https://ircz.de/p/20122569
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T 1610923733 18<29schestowitz>rianne says, "MinceR LOVES CATS!"
T 1610923739 18<28MinceR>:)
T 1610923763 18<29schestowitz>we suspect one of our fish is ill
T 1610923767 18<29schestowitz>"silva"
T 1610923787 18<29schestowitz>cats are too much fur
T 1610923815 18<28MinceR>i never had an issue with the amount of fur
T 1610923818 18<29schestowitz>psydroid: I quoted you in http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/intel-studies-and-findings/ (hope you don't mind)
T 1610923821 18<28MinceR>then again, i've never maintained a cat
T 1610923830 18<29schestowitz>it harms ebay stores
T 1610923838 18<29schestowitz>you need to disclose "home with pets"
T 1610923869 18<29schestowitz>She tells there: https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/trendsright
T 1610923869 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.ebay.co.uk | trendsright on eBay
T 1610923970 18<29schestowitz>Maybe someone who reads IRC logs and is based in the UK wants to buy something..
T 1610923977 18<29schestowitz>something there for everyone :-)
T 1610924018 18<29schestowitz>she goes to town tomorrow and can deliver/drop a parcel off... after midday
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T 1610926307 18<28techrights-bot>Future Plans and Using Videos to Complement Text • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/impending-site-changes/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW
T 1610926307 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Future Plans and Using Videos to Complement Text | Techrights
T 1610926456 18<26psydroid>schestowitz, that is fine and I am watching the video now
T 1610926464 18<26psydroid>I experienced hiring people with degrees in language studies for tech roles and even lower tech roles, but they generally wouldn't break out of Windows support and the next step was obviously a role in management
T 1610926483 18<29schestowitz>weird to me
T 1610926494 18<29schestowitz>iirc, the third time Google approached me it was for tech doc role
T 1610926500 18<29schestowitz>which tbh I was not interested in
T 1610926504 18<29schestowitz>not because it's google
T 1610926515 18<29schestowitz>that was like 15 years ago, before they became very obviously evil
T 1610926526 18<29schestowitz>imagine changing your skillset to docs and words
T 1610926533 18<29schestowitz>instead of working on code and creating things
T 1610926544 18<29schestowitz>I was a phd student at the time
T 1610926563 18<29schestowitz>it's also rather boring and unsatisfying
T 1610926586 18<29schestowitz>if I write text, I want it to expose something new, not some banal document about a GUI
T 1610926595 18<29schestowitz>IIRC, my sister works on some things like that
T 1610926603 18<29schestowitz>paperwork after a CS degree
T 1610926696 18<26psydroid>I consider it wasting your own potential as well as your employer wasting yours
T 1610926736 18<26psydroid>the worst part is that you lose your technical skills if you don't use them, so you get stuck to similar roles
T 1610926829 18<29schestowitz>yes, which they will say "HEY HI" can replace...
T 1610926842 18<29schestowitz>no matter the quality of the input-output junk, junk in, junk out
T 1610926847 18<29schestowitz>it's "Cheap"
T 1610926853 18<29schestowitz>many products fail anyway
T 1610926859 18<29schestowitz>at least they invest less in those failures
T 1610926885 18<29schestowitz>"technical writer" is almost like a paradox
T 1610926895 18<29schestowitz>and you would be struggling to find vacancies worth a f
T 1610926924 18<29schestowitz>I once dated a girl who said she was a "nail engineer" (she meant manicurist)
T 1610927005 18<26psydroid>that's stretching things a bit too far
T 1610927032 18<26psydroid>but yes, all these "engineer" roles are a bit of a joke
T 1610927207 18<29schestowitz>which ones?
T 1610927277 18<29schestowitz>BTW, mind proofreading this while I do too? http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/covid-19-and-freesw/
T 1610927278 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | COVID-19 Has Actually Helped Software Freedom Due to Financial and ‘Spare Time’ Factors | Techrights
T 1610927306 18<26psydroid>I consider an engineer someone who has a degree in engineering, maybe more like what is common in German-speaking countries
T 1610927330 18<29schestowitz>Germany built its enconomy on it
T 1610927336 18<29schestowitz>so it can largely coexist with Japan and China
T 1610927342 18<29schestowitz>exporting lots of machines to them
T 1610927349 18<29schestowitz>US and UK lack that ability
T 1610927381 18<29schestowitz>not sure about the French, not sure how much things like wines and food contribute to their economy; tourism has flattened, which certainly harms Italy
T 1610927612 18<26psydroid>I am proofreading the article
T 1610927642 18<28techrights-bot>#COVID19 Has Actually Helped #SoftwareFreedom Due to Financial and ’Spare Time’ Factors • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/covid-19-and-freesw/ •●• #GNU #Linux #FreeSW
T 1610927651 18<29schestowitz>psydroid: thank you, that helps
T 1610927818 18<28techrights-bot>Today in #Techrights • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146584 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest
T 1610927818 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
T 1610927818 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
T 1610927830 18<26psydroid>I haven't been able to spot any typos in the last few articles I proofread and commented on
T 1610927846 18<26psydroid>or maybe just one yesterday
T 1610927848 18<29schestowitz>maybe that's a good thing
T 1610927856 18<29schestowitz>I became too paranoid, I think, about typos
T 1610927873 18<29schestowitz>seeing that some trolls out there used them to try to discredit the message/article/messenger
T 1610927881 18<29schestowitz>to the point of reading the titles 5 times
T 1610927894 18<29schestowitz>and new year''s resolution was, keep it down to a saner level
T 1610927925 18<29schestowitz>but failing typos, they'll find other excuses to not read or link
T 1610927939 18<29schestowitz>some examples in http://techrights.org/2020/09/06/excuses-and-distractions/
T 1610927940 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | How to Spot Diversion Tactics (Excuses and Distractions From Articles Not Convenient to the Reader) | Techrights
T 1610928204 18<26psydroid>I've told you about my experiences when I linked to articles and they closely match what you said in this one
T 1610928407 18<26psydroid>the interesting thing for me is that the less knowledgeable people are about how things in the world of IT and patents work, the more readily they will accept different points of view
T 1610928470 18<26psydroid>sometimes I wonder for how long I can handle the brainwashing going on before I decide to go and do something else such as becoming a farmer
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T 1610929526 18<29schestowitz>psydroid: framing is OK when you are young
T 1610929534 18<29schestowitz>as you age, your prospects go away
T 1610929542 18<29schestowitz>back issue and stuff
T 1610929741 18<29schestowitz>psydroid: can you check this for factual errors/typos? http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/two-party-system-freesw/
T 1610929742 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | The Oligarchs’ Parties Will Never Choose the Side of Software Freedom Because Free Software Cannot Bribe Officials | Techrights
T 1610929751 18<29schestowitz>it would also be useful to know if this can offend Biden voters
T 1610929762 18<29schestowitz>in 2008 I apparently 'offended' some Obama supporters
T 1610929778 18<29schestowitz>by asserting he would continue serving corporations the way Bush had done
T 1610929796 18<29schestowitz>(and I was right about that, as it turned out in the 8 years that followed)
T 1610930270 18<19DaemonFC[m]>There's nothing that can be done to cut Trump off from National Security briefings until Wednesday, but that will be the last one he ever gets. Biden has decided that Trump is too dangerous to receive any more briefings. It's unclear whether the new rule applies only to Trump or if Obama, Bush, Clinton, and Carter will stop receiving theirs.
T 1610930278 18<19DaemonFC[m]>We've never had a problem with former presidents leaking things to Russia, but then there's Trump, who broke the Presidential Records Act by having his meeting transcripts with the Russians shredded as he left the room with them.
T 1610930337 18<28techrights-bot>The Oligarchs’ Parties Will Never Choose the Side of #SoftwareFreedom Because #FreeSoftware Cannot Bribe Officials • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/two-party-system-freesw/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux
T 1610930370 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Different oligarchs, I suppose.
T 1610930385 18<29schestowitz>many overlaps
T 1610930398 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Tech vs fossil fuels is the biggest one.
T 1610930413 18<29schestowitz>same interests
T 1610930426 18<29schestowitz>Big Tech is an attempt to perhaps distract from the other
T 1610930436 18<29schestowitz>and almost nobody speaks about "big telecom"
T 1610930436 18<19DaemonFC[m]>schestowitz: My dad is already acting like Trump signed executive orders reducing prescription prices. You can look at a graph of historical prices, and nothing has gotten better under Trump.
T 1610930445 18<29schestowitz>stooges of the Kochs talk of "Big Gov"
T 1610930460 18<29schestowitz>DaemonFC[m]: Trump lies
T 1610930468 18<29schestowitz>Carl Farmer is easy to lie to
T 1610930468 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Then when I mentioned to dad that Walgreens wanted $120 for some ear drops the other day, he just said "I don't know what medicines you have to take.".
T 1610930468 18<26psydroid>"In the days of (the) Obama administration era" is what I would say, but DaemonFC probably knows better if an article should be there
T 1610930478 18<29schestowitz>Maybe Carl also thinks Biden is a pedophile
T 1610930495 18<26psydroid>it just sounds a bit weird to me without it
T 1610930505 18<19DaemonFC[m]>schestowitz: The mall is dying. We went to a restaurant that was breaking the law and doing dine-in.
T 1610930512 18<29schestowitz>psydroid: thanks, spotted and corrected that typo
T 1610930529 18<19DaemonFC[m]>The news in Lake County published a list that was flouting the "health code order" and it was pretty busy there.
T 1610930544 18<29schestowitz>they try to survive
T 1610930551 18<19DaemonFC[m]>They were doing social distancing, masks, plexiglass....
T 1610930555 18<29schestowitz>more people will defy more orders
T 1610930561 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I didn't feel like I was in more danger than I would be at Walmart.
T 1610930563 18<29schestowitz>as they just struggle to pay rent and buy food
T 1610930567 18<29schestowitz>time for UBI maybe
T 1610930571 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Yeah, fuck the Lake County Health Department.
T 1610930582 18<29schestowitz>in nations that can afford UBI that covers food, power, water
T 1610930607 18<19DaemonFC[m]>They're the reason we were driving past strips of bankrupt businesses all the way over there, where there will be no jobs for people to go back to if this ever does end.
T 1610930676 18<19DaemonFC[m]>The economy is dying here and people who actually work for a living are losing their jobs and committing suicide.
T 1610930681 18<19DaemonFC[m]>And the government doesn't care about that.
T 1610930715 18<19DaemonFC[m]>It does fucking nothing. Shuts things down at random to "protect" us from something that kills one person in the county per day.
T 1610930750 18<19DaemonFC[m]>And two-thirds of those are in nursing homes. I'm not in a nursing home.
T 1610930763 18<28techrights-bot>#Linux Action News 172 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146583#comment-27837
T 1610930764 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Shows/Videos: GNU/Linux News, ONLYOFFICE, LibreWolf, and AwesomeWM | Tux Machines
T 1610930776 18<19DaemonFC[m]>They're hoarding all of the vaccines to give to people who are two minutes from midnight anyway.
T 1610930832 18<19DaemonFC[m]>schestowitz: They say there will be a drive through at the lake county fairgrounds for vaccination next month, but you have to be an essential frontline worker or over 65.
T 1610930837 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Maybe Mandy qualifies.
T 1610930874 18<19DaemonFC[m]>https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/us/inauguration-protests-sunday/index.html
T 1610930875 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Protests at state capitols remain small and under heavy police presence after warnings of unrest - CNN
T 1610930885 18<19DaemonFC[m]>So far, it's been a few kooks. Pretty quiet, really.
T 1610930892 18<28techrights-bot>#FreeSW ('Open Source') #Security Podcast: #RightToRepair Security https://opensourcesecurity.io/2021/01/17/episode-254-right-to-repair-security/
T 1610930892 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606opensourcesecurity.io | Episode 254 – Right to Repair Security – Open Source Security
T 1610930902 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Probably because they realize you won't get past 25,000 National Guardsmen.
T 1610930943 18<28techrights-bot>#Intel leaks to come every day this coming week. We have maybe a dozen parts left. http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
T 1610930943 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights
T 1610930972 18<28techrights-bot>There appears to be a severe crisis at #Intel ; they cannot recruit scientists (or those whom they recruited are walking away) and as a result the company produces bad products with poor documentation http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/intel-studies-and-findings/
T 1610930973 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | InteLeaks – Part XVIII: Intel Does Not Know How to Properly Do Research and It Seems Apparent Unscientific Methods Are Used to Justify Poor Documentation | Techrights
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T 1610931021 18<28techrights-bot>Remarks on recent and impending #techrights changes; We are not replacing text with video, we’re just trying to enhance the presentation a bit, especially where visuals help make a point or where browsing through Web sites http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/impending-site-changes/
T 1610931022 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Future Plans and Using Videos to Complement Text | Techrights
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T 1610931074 18<28techrights-bot>Developers and users are increasingly exploring what the #Freesoftware world has to offer; this is actually measurable and it contradicts claims to the contrary http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/covid-19-and-freesw/ #freesw
T 1610931075 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | COVID-19 Has Actually Helped Software Freedom Due to Financial and ‘Spare Time’ Factors | Techrights
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T 1610931122 18<28techrights-bot>The tough reality is that next week’s (or this coming week’s, depending on what Sunday counts as) inauguration ceremony is partly symbolic as all the same and important issues remain largely untouched, for corporations control almost everything of significance http://techrights.org/2021/01/17/two-party-system-freesw/
T 1610931123 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | The Oligarchs’ Parties Will Never Choose the Side of Software Freedom Because Free Software Cannot Bribe Officials | Techrights
T 1610931193 18<19DaemonFC[m]>https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/17/rudy-giuliani-associate-john-kiriakou-trump-pardon
T 1610931193 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.theguardian.com | Giuliani associate told ex-CIA officer a Trump pardon would 'cost $2m’ – report | Rudy Giuliani | The Guardian
T 1610931212 18<19DaemonFC[m]>schestowitz: Trump told his staff to stiff Giuliani on his legal fees as revenge for losing all of the election cases.
T 1610931238 18<28techrights-bot>Finger in #gnu #linux don't use #microsoft #windows implementations of it https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/windows-finger-command-abused-by-phishing-to-download-malware/
T 1610931238 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.bleepingcomputer.com | Windows Finger command abused by phishing to download malware
T 1610931253 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Giuliani was apparently charging $20,000 per day.
T 1610931272 18<29schestowitz>to leak?
T 1610931310 18<29schestowitz>[00:52] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: They say there will be a drive through at the lake county fairgrounds for vaccination next month, but you have to be an essential frontline worker or over 65.
T 1610931312 18<29schestowitz>expriment
T 1610931315 18<29schestowitz>or clinical trials
T 1610931319 18<29schestowitz>some "selected group"
T 1610931330 18<29schestowitz>join the experiment for patent monopolies or patent pools
T 1610931331 18<29schestowitz>yay
T 1610931340 18<29schestowitz>and maybe it'll even work out at the end
T 1610931343 18<29schestowitz>data impending
T 1610931345 18<29schestowitz>coming soon
T 1610931863 18<19DaemonFC[m]>https://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/i-looked-at-all-the-ways-microsoft-teams-tracks-users-and-my-head-is-spinning/
T 1610931863 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06I looked at all the ways Microsoft Teams tracks users and my head is spinning | ZDNet
T 1610931903 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Most of it is meaningless out of context, but it apparently assigns people a productivity score for their boss to look at.
T 1610931907 18<29schestowitz>Re: iOS market share
T 1610931909 18<29schestowitz>> WorldEuropeUSA
T 1610931910 18<29schestowitz>> iOS 16.58%16.11%31.43%
T 1610931912 18<29schestowitz>> Windows31.73%39.26%29.66%
T 1610931913 18<29schestowitz>> Android41.58%32.9%19.86%
T 1610931915 18<29schestowitz>> OS X 7.08% 8.98%14.85%
T 1610931916 18<29schestowitz>> Chrome 2.65%
T 1610931918 18<29schestowitz>> Linux 0.81% 0.86% 0.84%
T 1610931919 18<29schestowitz>>
T 1610931921 18<29schestowitz>> https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202012
T 1610931921 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Worldwide | StatCounter Global Stats
T 1610931922 18<29schestowitz>>
T 1610931924 18<29schestowitz>> https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/europe#monthly-200901-202012
T 1610931924 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Europe | StatCounter Global Stats
T 1610931925 18<29schestowitz>>
T 1610931927 18<29schestowitz>> https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/all/united-states-of-america#monthly-200901-202012
T 1610931927 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share United States Of America | StatCounter Global Stats
T 1610931928 18<29schestowitz>> That might say a lot about the nature of the data they gather, rather than reality itself.
T 1610931930 18<29schestowitz>Either way, Microsoft needs to find a business model, a NEW one, or die...
T 1610931932 18<29schestowitz>Rebranding Vista10 is not enough.
T 1610931950 18<29schestowitz>DaemonFC[m]: zdnet is a joke site, linking to AMP makes it yet worse
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T 1610932372 18<26psydroid>Microsoft's business model is moving towards gaming, which is a good thing because it makes it easier to ignore them for serious IT workloads either on the client or the server
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T 1610932411 18<26psydroid>I don't know if that will be enough to sustain them, but that's their problem to solve
T 1610932426 18<29schestowitz>xbox lost them billions
T 1610932436 18<29schestowitz>and then they wasted billions of jokes like minecraft
T 1610932448 18<29schestowitz>no idea why anyone would waste time and money on such utter junk
T 1610932465 18<29schestowitz>linkedin is going down the drain too... many layoffs
T 1610932472 18<26psydroid>grasping for straws at this point
T 1610932509 18<26psydroid>at*
T 1610932662 18<19DaemonFC[m]>The Nokia deal was one of their worst though.
T 1610932667 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Just a total loss of money.
T 1610932826 18<19DaemonFC[m]>It capped off a series of totally forgettable Microsoft phones.
T 1610932908 18<19DaemonFC[m]>https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/mobiledevices/forum/mdapps/what-browser-does-the-kin-twom-use/0cae33f6-6cb2-492b-8a31-f5d23268ad20
T 1610932910 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606answers.microsoft.com | What Browser does the KIN twom use? - Microsoft Community
T 1610932919 18<19DaemonFC[m]>" I just got my Kin TwoM. Its user agent string is "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 6.12; en-US; KIN.Two 1.0)" I thought I had read somewhere that it was somewhere in between ie7 and ie8. Pretty disappointing. "
T 1610932921 18<19DaemonFC[m]>LOL
T 1610932980 18<19DaemonFC[m]>It seems like it could probably only barely render websites when it was released.
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T 1610933185 18<29schestowitz>google outage?
T 1610933198 18<29schestowitz>we are having issues with some client that uses Google Maps for something
T 1610933205 18<29schestowitz>The behavious seems sporadic
T 1610933213 18<29schestowitz>not an issue I can see at our hand
T 1610933216 18<29schestowitz>maybe the Google API
T 1610933243 18<29schestowitz>Where can one check the status of pertinent Google disservices?
T 1610933247 18<29schestowitz>in real time?
T 1610933496 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I doubt they publish that. Why would they?
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T 1610933942 18<26psydroid>I can see they are having some problems just by searching for "google down", but it's not their own status page
T 1610933960 18<29schestowitz>just got another phone escalation
T 1610934193 18<26mjg59>google.com/appsstatus
T 1610934275 18<26psydroid>https://status.cloud.google.com/
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T 1610935199 18<29schestowitz>seems like jboss was at fault
T 1610935285 18<29schestowitz>http://www.enricozini.org/blog/2021/links/openstreetmap-maps-links
T 1610935287 18<29schestowitz>"If you want to print out local maps, MyOSMatic is a service to generate maps of cities using OpenStreetMap data. The generated maps are available in PNG, PDF and SVG formats and are ready to be printed."
T 1610935287 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.enricozini.org | OpenStreetMap maps links
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T 1610938529 18<29techrights-ipfs>IPFS local node stats TotalIn: 43 GB TotalOut: 20 GB
T 1610938530 18<29techrights-ipfs>New bulletin just generated and added to IPFS with CID:
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T 1610944466 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Under Trump, the US has experienced the most rapid decline in life expectancy since the USSR disintegrated.
T 1610944494 18<19DaemonFC[m]>*in a major country since Russia after the USSR disintegrated, rather
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T 1610947801 18<29schestowitz>DaemonFC[m]: tell your parents :-)
T 1610947802 18<29schestowitz>it would bother then
T 1610947803 18<29schestowitz>*them
T 1610947856 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Since practically all of it is landing on men over 60 and my dad is 69....you'd think he'd knock off the bullshit.
T 1610947882 18<29schestowitz>they would blame their son, the messenger
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T 1610951036 18<29schestowitz>for the daily bulletins to have images as fancy characters
T 1610951062 18<29schestowitz>grep txt /var/log/httpd/techrights.org-access_log-20210117 | wc -l
T 1610951063 18<29schestowitz>754054
T 1610951071 18<29schestowitz>turns out many people read those bulletins
T 1610951091 18<29schestowitz>chafa has a new release https://hpjansson.org/blag/2021/01/18/chafa-1-6-0-wider/
T 1610951092 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606hpjansson.org | Chafa 1.6.0: Wider | Et tu, Cthulhu
T 1610951114 18<29schestowitz>it does exactly what I was looking for a couple of months back and supports URLs as arguments
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T 1610952619 18<29schestowitz>I think I found a way: wget -O- -q $line | awk '/endif/ {p=1}; p==1 {print}' | awk '{print; if (match($0,"Share in other sites")) exit}' | sed -n '/<img/s/.*src="\([^"]*\)".*/\1/p' | xargs -L1 chafa -c none -w 9 -s 78 >> $IRCDATEFILE
T 1610952644 18<29schestowitz>not the most efficient way
T 1610952650 18<29schestowitz>but it might work, testing now
T 1610952840 18<28techrights-bot>*** 𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍 *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-01-17.txt
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T 1610954268 18<28techrights-bot>*** 𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍 *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-01-17.txt
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T 1610954615 18<28techrights-bot>*** 𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍 *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-01-17.txt
T 1610954625 18<29techrights-ipfs> ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▅▅▅▇▅▅▆▆▄▅▆▇▆▆▆▄▆▆▅▆▅▅▆▅▄▅▄▅▅▅▅▅▅█ avg(k/sec) 31.98 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▃▃▃▄▃▂▃▂▁▂▃▃▄▃▄▄▅▄▅▄▄▂▃▄▅▃▄▄▃▃▄▃▂▃▃▂▃▃ avg(k/sec) 12.93 ⟲
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T 1610955423 18<29schestowitz>need to exclude IRC posts from this, otherwise it can look hideous, trying again
T 1610955598 18<28techrights-bot>*** 𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍 *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-01-17.txt
T 1610955981 18<29schestowitz>https://hpjansson.org/chafa/
T 1610955982 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606hpjansson.org | Chafa: Terminal Graphics for the 21st Century
T 1610955995 18<29schestowitz>text only supports colour in the terminal
T 1610956001 18<29schestowitz>but not text/txt files
T 1610956016 18<29schestowitz>if only...
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T 1610959196 18<20Techrights-sec>https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/15/us/mlk-day-of-service/index.html
T 1610959197 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606edition.cnn.com | MLK Day of service 2021 - CNN
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T 1610959911 18<28techrights-bot>42Gears SureMDM Simplifies Setting up Kiosk Mode on Linux Devices https://www.prnewswire.com/in/news-releases/42gears-suremdm-simplifies-setting-up-kiosk-mode-on-linux-devices-817220571.html
T 1610959911 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.prnewswire.com | 42Gears SureMDM Simplifies Setting up Kiosk Mode on Linux Devices
T 1610959949 18<28techrights-bot>Linux Weekly Roundup: Wine 6.0, Fedora i3 Spin, and More • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146588 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest
T 1610959950 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Weekly Roundup: Wine 6.0, Fedora i3 Spin, and More | Tux Machines
T 1610959951 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
T 1610959957 18<28techrights-bot>Linux 5.11-rc4 • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146587 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest
T 1610959958 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.11-rc4 | Tux Machines
T 1610959976 18<28techrights-bot>You Can Now Buy the #PinePhone #Mobian Community Editionc#Linux Phone • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146585
T 1610959976 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | You Can Now Buy the PinePhone Mobian Community Edition Linux Phone | Tux Machines
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T 1610960062 18<28techrights-bot>#Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, January 17, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
T 1610960062 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Bulletin Archives
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T 1610960073 18<28techrights-bot>#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
T 1610960074 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index
T 1610960094 18<28techrights-bot>Review: #CRUX 3.6.1, #NuTyX 20.12.0 • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146586 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1610960096 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Review: CRUX 3.6.1, NuTyX 20.12.0 | Tux Machines
T 1610960105 18<28techrights-bot>#Wine Developers Are Working On A New Linux Kernel Sync API To Succeed ESYNC/FSYNC • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146589 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest
T 1610960105 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Wine Developers Are Working On A New Linux Kernel Sync API To Succeed ESYNC/FSYNC | Tux Machines
T 1610960157 18<28techrights-bot>Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146590 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1610960157 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
T 1610960170 18<28techrights-bot>#Linux M1 Chip Mac: #Corellium Releases Early Beta of New OS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146229#comment-27841
T 1610960172 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Aha! This Project is Working to Bring Linux to Apple’s ARM-based M1 MacBooks | Tux Machines
T 1610960188 18<28techrights-bot>#Chafa 1.6.0: Wider • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146593 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #deletegithub
T 1610960189 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Chafa 1.6.0: Wider | Tux Machines
T 1610960220 18<28techrights-bot>Rotary #UnSmartphone is a rotary dial phone based on #Arduino , 4G LTE module • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146591
T 1610960221 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Rotary Un-Smartphone is a rotary dial phone based on Arduino, 4G LTE module | Tux Machines
T 1610960315 18<28techrights-bot>#ClusBerry 9500-CM4 – A #RaspberryPi CM4 cluster, industrial style • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146592 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1610960315 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | ClusBerry 9500-CM4 – A Raspberry Pi CM4 cluster, industrial style | Tux Machines
T 1610960325 18<28techrights-bot>#IRC Proceedings: Sunday, January 17, 2021 • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/irc-log-170121/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW
T 1610960326 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Sunday, January 17, 2021 | Techrights
T 1610960336 18<28techrights-bot>Goodbye, #Google (2021) http://www.goodbyemicrosoft.net/news.php?item.831.4 #GAFAM #monopolies #surveillance #espionage
T 1610960337 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.goodbyemicrosoft.net | Goodbye, Google (2021) - Goodbye, Microsoft®
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T 1610961161 18<28techrights-bot>Set up a minimal server on a Raspberry Pi | ⇨ https://opensource.com/article/21/1/minimal-server-raspberry-pi •●• #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux
T 1610961162 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Set up a minimal server on a Raspberry Pi | Opensource.com
T 1610961297 18<28techrights-bot>Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146594 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1610961298 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
T 1610961508 18<28techrights-bot>#Security Auditing Tools For #Ubuntu • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146595 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1610961508 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Security Auditing Tools For Ubuntu | Tux Machines
T 1610961600 18<29schestowitz>DaemonFC[m] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-15/norway-warns-of-vaccination-risks-for-sick-patients-over-80
T 1610961601 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
T 1610961612 18<29schestowitz>I see the experiments are conducted and showing some early findings
T 1610961614 18<29schestowitz>'in vivo'
T 1610961628 18<29schestowitz>no testing needed, just spread it to many people, see what happens
T 1610961632 18<29schestowitz>allergies, old age...
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T 1610962035 18<29schestowitz>I could use some help with https://hpjansson.org/chafa/
T 1610962035 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606hpjansson.org | Chafa: Terminal Graphics for the 21st Century
T 1610962045 18<29schestowitz>an old version of it is in the buster (Debian) repo
T 1610962062 18<29schestowitz>there was a release this weekend, which adds support for more unicode chars
T 1610962089 18<29schestowitz>that lets 79-chars-wide portrayals of images work better
T 1610962126 18<29schestowitz>for daily bulletins I now use: chafa -c none -w 9 -s 78 --symbols all [filename]
T 1610962138 18<29schestowitz>but I a sure we can get crisper images than this
T 1610962153 18<29schestowitz>examples of what we currently have in http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-01-17.txt
T 1610962185 18<29schestowitz>in http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146593 there's a mention of new feature for glyphs, but the version I have does not support that
T 1610962230 18<29schestowitz>maybe we can get vastly better images somehow, esp. if we get a later version, but need to test how good an output we can get from these in practice
T 1610962258 18<29schestowitz>Japan-Korea-China symbols add lots of expressiveness to the visuals that make up an imahe
T 1610962261 18<29schestowitz>*image
T 1610962408 18<20Techrights-sec>Hmm. Animated images ought to have finite loops.
T 1610962408 18<20Techrights-sec>Is chafa in the backports repository?
T 1610962439 18<29schestowitz>have not checked, but with apt/aptitude it's easy to check, it's a very handy utility... been looking for something like this for MONTHS
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T 1610962538 18<20Techrights-sec>I haven't used it but Gifcurry might be another option for converting
T 1610962540 18<20Techrights-sec>video clips to animated PNG or GIF
T 1610962558 18<29schestowitz>Those are very different things. This one is for static images in the terminal, with or without colour
T 1610962575 18<20Techrights-sec>Also ffmpeg itself:
T 1610962577 18<20Techrights-sec>https://linuxhint.com/best_gif_maker_apps_linux/
T 1610962578 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606linuxhint.com | Best GIF Maker Apps for Linux – Linux Hint
T 1610962662 18<29schestowitz>There's an example in the new release note (hours old) and also in today's bulletin, where I test it as part of the script already. I'm sure we can get more crisp images given additional options/glyphs.
T 1610962673 18<20Techrights-sec>Oh. Yes, that is different.
T 1610962674 18<20Techrights-sec>I wondered about the referfences to unicode...
T 1610962748 18<20Techrights-sec>Also 'apt-get source' can be used to grab the source package and
T 1610962748 18<20Techrights-sec>then you can download the newest tarball and swap that in and
T 1610962750 18<20Techrights-sec>build your own package. It's not too hard even the first time.
T 1610962766 18<29schestowitz>bbl, workout
T 1610962914 18<20Techrights-sec>https://wiki.debian.org/BuildingTutorial#The_packaging_workflow
T 1610962915 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606wiki.debian.org | BuildingTutorial - Debian Wiki
T 1610962949 18<28techrights-bot>#Security Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146596
T 1610962950 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
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T 1610969938 18<28techrights-bot>#9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: January 17th, 2021 • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146597 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest
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T 1610972625 18<29techrights-ipfs> ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▇▆▆▃▁▁▄▅▃▄▅▆▄▅▄▅▇▅▇▆▇▅▅▇▆▅▇▆▅▇▅▆▆▆ avg(k/sec) 29.18 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▃▃▂▁██▂▂▂▃▁▂▃▂▂▃▂▂▂▃▂▃▄▅▂▃▂▂▂▃▂▂▃▃ avg(k/sec) 37.85 ⟲
T 1610973662 18<28techrights-bot>#BT disconnected us 3 times this morning, an engineer is coming in again tomorrow. What a phenomenal ordeal... over 2 weeks of issues now. About 5 hours on the phone, let aside time wasted on engineer visits, slow connections, restoring connections and sessions... days down the drain
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T 1610974263 18<20Techrights-sec>Very annoying. Be sure to continue to document every interaction with them.
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T 1610974306 18<20Techrights-sec>It's possible that they might just plain not have the capacity to
T 1610974307 18<20Techrights-sec>deliver the bandwidth advertised, nor even more than a tiny fraction
T 1610974307 18<20Techrights-sec>of it.
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T 1610974543 18<19schestowitz__>the issue is already escalated to the highest possible tier, AFAIK, and treated almost like emergency at their end. But that alone isn't helping if they cannot figure out what's actually wrong. 2 weeks already... of wasted time. It started 1-2 days before lock-down, so the correlation isn't quite there. Brexit deal? Not sure that's the culprit, either. I've lessened the amount of documenting I do; as I think that at this point it
T 1610974545 18<19schestowitz__>would be of less practical use.
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T 1610975287 18<28techrights-bot>#JingOS arrives as China’s first Linux Distro, offers iPadOS-like features and functions • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146598 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1610975287 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | JingOS arrives as China’s first Linux Distro, offers iPadOS-like features and functions | Tux Machines
T 1610975364 18<28techrights-bot>10 ways to get started with #freesw in 2021 • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146599 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest
T 1610975365 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | 10 ways to get started with open source in 2021 | Tux Machines
T 1610975408 18<28techrights-bot>#Android Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146600 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest
T 1610975409 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
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T 1610975553 18<29vZS1_2>There's too much dbus dependencies in GNU/Linux atm.
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T 1610975567 18<19schestowitz__>is it that bad?
T 1610975569 18<29vZS1_2>Yes
T 1610975571 18<19schestowitz__>gentoo also?
T 1610975573 18<29vZS1_2>Even FreeBSD now
T 1610975576 18<19schestowitz__>gnome uses it a lot
T 1610975579 18<19schestowitz__>kde started as well
T 1610975588 18<29vZS1_2>At least in gentoo you can choose to avoid dbus with "-dbus" flag.
T 1610975588 18<19schestowitz__>and kio
T 1610975647 18<29Ariadne>dbus is not a great design but i think polkit is far more worrisome
T 1610975650 18<29vZS1_2>I'm in the middle of preparing a RedHat/IBM-free GNU/Linux system and getting rid of dbus is a lot harder than getting rid of systemd
T 1610975653 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: I strongly suspect BT is going bonkers
T 1610975656 18<19schestowitz__>no bandwidth
T 1610975660 18<19schestowitz__>they oversell
T 1610975660 18<29Ariadne>polkit is basically a root kit
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T 1610975664 18<29vZS1_2>Get a new ISP
T 1610975684 18<19schestowitz__>same line
T 1610975686 18<29vZS1_2>I don't want anything from Red Hat to get into my new install.
T 1610975695 18<19schestowitz__>unless we get a 4g router
T 1610975714 18<19schestowitz__>I have the number of that, but it's expensive I'm told
T 1610975735 18<29Ariadne>i would look into getting an isp run by technical people
T 1610975743 18<19schestowitz__>also not sure how reliable and persistent a connection, set aside long-distance high-intensity connection so maybe more radiation levels
T 1610975744 18<29Ariadne>they can investigate your line quality
T 1610975762 18<19schestowitz__>they do tomorrow
T 1610975773 18<19schestowitz__>in less than 24 hours, they booked a visit already
T 1610975776 18<19schestowitz__>second in 5 days
T 1610975795 18<19schestowitz__>they found no issue with the line, I'm quite sure it's just throttling
T 1610975796 18<29vZS1_2>systemd is easy to kick out
T 1610975800 18<29vZS1_2>pam and dbus a lot harder
T 1610975808 18<29vZS1_2>pam even made its way into FreeBSD and NetBSD
T 1610975820 18<29Ariadne>pam itself is from sun originally
T 1610975830 18<29vZS1_2>To my knowledge, OpenBSD is the only PAM-free *nix
T 1610975843 18<29Ariadne>alpine is pam-free
T 1610975846 18<29vZS1_2>It's practically controlled by Red-Hat
T 1610975858 18<29Ariadne>not dbus free though
T 1610975896 18<29Ariadne>i guess i should clarify that
T 1610975908 18<29Ariadne>alpine has pam but you have to install it if you want it
T 1610975941 18<29Ariadne>but if you want to get rid of pam
T 1610975946 18<29Ariadne>you should avoid glibc
T 1610975962 18<29Ariadne>glibc does not even support shadow passwords without pam
T 1610976039 18<29vZS1_2>I'll probably have to go in steps with my Gentoo config. Doesn't seem like I'll be able to kick everything IBM out in one go.
T 1610976098 18<29vZS1_2>Even Emacs has dbus baked into it now. I didn't even realise.
T 1610976118 18<29vZS1_2>I think Emacs can be compiled without dbus support though
T 1610976151 18<19schestowitz__>emacs is connected to lots of stuff
T 1610976154 18<19schestowitz__>some in shithub
T 1610976157 18<29vZS1_2>I am aware
T 1610976159 18<19schestowitz__>but you can compile without those
T 1610976171 18<19schestowitz__>figosdev looked into it, iirc
T 1610976174 18<19schestowitz__>As did others...
T 1610976192 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: BT is sending another new router
T 1610976203 18<19schestowitz__>like that's magically going to overcome throttling
T 1610976223 18<29vZS1_2>schestowitz__: Ideally, you should use your own router.
T 1610976225 18<29techrights-ipfs> ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▆▅▆▆▅▅▆▅▅▆▆▆▆▇▅▅▅▅▅▇▅▆▆▅▅▄▅▅▆▅▄▆▅▆▇█ avg(k/sec) 29.70 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▃▃▃▃▂▃▂▂▃▂▃▂▃▂▂▃▃▂▃▂▃▂▂▂▂▁▂▅▃▄▂▃ avg(k/sec) 10.41 ⟲
T 1610976234 18<29vZS1_2>A router which you can SSH into.
T 1610976244 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: that too would not solve the issue, I find it hard to believe it would
T 1610976258 18<29vZS1_2>Oh, it's not for the throttling. Just for your convenience.
T 1610976263 18<29vZS1_2>Most routers these days are GUI-only.
T 1610976263 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: the bt home hub can be configured for ssh inwards
T 1610976268 18<29vZS1_2>Which means no automation
T 1610976289 18<29vZS1_2>Just make sure your new router retains that SSH functionality
T 1610976307 18<19schestowitz__>the latest home hub... does it support that
T 1610976317 18<19schestowitz__>they once sent us a new one that broke vpn
T 1610976320 18<19schestowitz__>openvpn
T 1610976323 18<19schestowitz__>ceased to work
T 1610976333 18<19schestowitz__>and other people said online they had experienced the same thing
T 1610976515 18<29vZS1_2>The OpenWrt people are a good bunch to ask, for this kind of stuff.
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T 1610976588 18<28CrystalMath>MinceR: Vladimir Putin has more trust and support in Serbia than in Russia :P
T 1610976607 18<29vZS1_2>They have an IRC on freenode under #openwrt
T 1610976620 18<28CrystalMath>MinceR: according to polls
T 1610976703 18<28techrights-bot>#RaspberryPi and #Programming Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146601 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1610976704 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi and Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
T 1610976874 18<29Ariadne>freenode is another problem the FOSS world needs to deal with
T 1610976882 18<29Ariadne>it is owned by a private party now
T 1610976896 18<19schestowitz__>someone said PIA
T 1610976899 18<19schestowitz__>is that true?
T 1610976900 18<29vZS1_2>That's not too big an issue. You don't need much bandwidth to self-host an IRC server.
T 1610976923 18<29Ariadne>yes, but we need to kick freenode to the curb and actually do that :)
T 1610976935 18<29vZS1_2>Well, do it then. lol
T 1610976947 18<29Ariadne>i already did for my projects
T 1610976954 18<19schestowitz__>even gnu and fsf still use freenode
T 1610976960 18<19schestowitz__>network effect
T 1610976972 18<29Ariadne>yes just like github
T 1610976973 18<19schestowitz__>and as yet little incentive or reason to boycott it, afaik
T 1610976974 18<29vZS1_2>schestowitz__: what's PIA?
T 1610976985 18<19schestowitz__>unless you need a strictly private irc network
T 1610976995 18<19schestowitz__>private internet access (VPN)
T 1610977008 18<19schestowitz__>Ariadne: but it's proprietary and MS-owned
T 1610977011 18<29vZS1_2>Oh
T 1610977015 18<19schestowitz__>set aside many more scandals
T 1610977046 18<19schestowitz__>wikileaks had its own irc
T 1610977059 18<19schestowitz__>and it didn't stop an fbi moles picking up and leaking out all the logs
T 1610977112 18<29vZS1_2>It's not about privacy
T 1610977121 18<29vZS1_2>It's about reducing infra dependency
T 1610977122 18<29Ariadne>it’s about not having your service interrupted
T 1610977153 18<29Ariadne>because some freenode admin decides they dislike you
T 1610977206 18<28techrights-bot>Links 18/1/2021: Weekly Summaries and Linux 5.11 RC4 • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/linux-5-11-rc4/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest
T 1610977207 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Links 18/1/2021: Weekly Summaries and Linux 5.11 RC4 | Techrights
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T 1610977255 18<29vZS1_2>I've come to the conclusion that source-based systems like Gentoo are the best way to police user freedom
T 1610977299 18<29vZS1_2>You can actively keep the cancer out by refuse to include in your compiles.
T 1610977308 18<29vZS1_2>s/refuse/refusing/
T 1610977368 18<19schestowitz__>it has always been true
T 1610977371 18<19schestowitz__>but a tradeoff
T 1610977379 18<19schestowitz__>computation time and ease
T 1610977390 18<19schestowitz__>someone suggested today that I compile chafa
T 1610977401 18<19schestowitz__>I did a video about it 2 hours ago, it's STILL uploading
T 1610977405 18<19schestowitz__>3 hours for 38MB
T 1610977444 18<19schestowitz__>I'm just thankful that I have a connection in general, even if super-slow and interrupted every time they unilaterally decide to "test your line"
T 1610977450 18<29vZS1_2>For my multimedia station, I barely compile anything.
T 1610977456 18<29vZS1_2>That made me a bit complacent
T 1610977466 18<19schestowitz__>having no connection at all is a little hell, esp. as so many things depend on a connection being available
T 1610977486 18<29vZS1_2>I think you underestimate the value of switching providers.
T 1610977489 18<28MinceR>CrystalMath: maybe he should move to serbia then
T 1610977515 18<29vZS1_2>BT are known to throttle everyone when they feel like
T 1610977515 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: freenode or Net?
T 1610977519 18<29vZS1_2>ISP
T 1610977538 18<19schestowitz__>this is the first time I have such an issue with them
T 1610977542 18<19schestowitz__>in 10 years
T 1610977556 18<19schestowitz__>I must have paid them like 4000-5000 quid in bills
T 1610977567 18<29vZS1_2>If it goes on for too long, you should consider switching.
T 1610977570 18<19schestowitz__>that's like a car
T 1610977572 18<29vZS1_2>Maybe give them another 6 months
T 1610977580 18<19schestowitz__>that long?
T 1610977587 18<29vZS1_2>That's a reasonable timeline.
T 1610977592 18<19schestowitz__>no, it they don't fix it this week, I shall leave and demand a refund
T 1610977602 18<29vZS1_2>Well, that's probably even better.
T 1610977606 18<19schestowitz__>they get you to pay in advance and then look for excuses to deny refunds
T 1610977610 18<29vZS1_2>You shouldn't tolerate terrible servic
T 1610977624 18<29vZS1_2>When there are so many alternatives
T 1610977634 18<19schestowitz__>historicallt they have a major f-up every 5 years2
T 1610977641 18<19schestowitz__>2011, 2015, 2021
T 1610977650 18<29vZS1_2>Are all your neighbours on BT as well?
T 1610977660 18<19schestowitz__>aside from those major issues, much of the rest was not too bad tbh
T 1610977679 18<19schestowitz__>I think one neighbour uses virgin
T 1610977681 18<19schestowitz__>well, used
T 1610977683 18<19schestowitz__>she left
T 1610977687 18<29vZS1_2>You don't even have 1Mb/s upload
T 1610977694 18<29vZS1_2>That's unacceptable under any provider in the UK
T 1610977696 18<19schestowitz__>I used to have that
T 1610977701 18<29vZS1_2>This isn't some backwater country
T 1610977704 18<19schestowitz__>they restored it last Thursday
T 1610977708 18<19schestowitz__>and then something happened again
T 1610977734 18<19schestowitz__>ipfs does 30 upstream and 60 downtstream a month
T 1610977742 18<19schestowitz__>but that's too little to justify throttling
T 1610977749 18<19schestowitz__>30gb that is
T 1610977751 18<29vZS1_2>I upload multiple terabytes a month
T 1610977758 18<29vZS1_2>Under Talktalk
T 1610977761 18<29vZS1_2>Never been throttled
T 1610977773 18<19schestowitz__>I heard their support is worse than awful
T 1610977776 18<19schestowitz__>and line keeps dropping
T 1610977780 18<19schestowitz__>maybe region-dependent
T 1610977790 18<29vZS1_2>Maybe the line drops 2 or 3 times a year
T 1610977794 18<29vZS1_2>But not more than that
T 1610977800 18<29vZS1_2>Most ISPs suffer the same
T 1610977803 18<29vZS1_2>They don't advertise it
T 1610977814 18<19schestowitz__>how long for?
T 1610977819 18<19schestowitz__>momentary?
T 1610977824 18<29vZS1_2>about 45 mins, usually
T 1610977827 18<19schestowitz__>forced reboot?
T 1610977835 18<19schestowitz__>ah, see... I did not have such an issue with BT
T 1610977843 18<19schestowitz__>which is what I meant by no downtime
T 1610977857 18<19schestowitz__>I'd rather have a slow connection than none at all (for more than a few minutes)
T 1610977881 18<19schestowitz__>I do all the IRC logging from my PCs here, the server side is used for backup if a home outage is long enough
T 1610977899 18<19schestowitz__>but what you say reaffirms the downtime issues of talktalk
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T 1610977919 18<29vZS1_2>You shouldn't build anything with the assumption of no downtime
T 1610977921 18<29vZS1_2>Just saying
T 1610977935 18<19schestowitz__>I think there's a good chance that by week's end they'll restore it and it'll stick... given that it's assigned to the Executive Team as a special case
T 1610977950 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: I don't, that's why I have server-side fallback
T 1610977965 18<19schestowitz__>in the past MinceR kindly send my by email or other means stuff which was missing from logs
T 1610977975 18<19schestowitz__>cubeman_ also logs it from Canada
T 1610978016 18<29vZS1_2>I've also got a logger coming. But I'm working on system migration first.
T 1610978029 18<19schestowitz__>with ipfs now set up here (and not sure how many mirrors or nodes that pin the cids) it's another reason to lower downtime
T 1610978042 18<28CrystalMath>MinceR: Trump actually fared poorly in that pool, even losing to Angela Merkel
T 1610978046 18<28CrystalMath>*poll
T 1610978063 18<28CrystalMath>and she lost to Xi Jinping :P
T 1610978063 18<29vZS1_2>You've got at least one full IPFS mirror from me
T 1610978070 18<19schestowitz__>thanks!
T 1610978075 18<19schestowitz__>is ti stable now?
T 1610978080 18<29vZS1_2>Let me check
T 1610978081 18<19schestowitz__>you had stability issues
T 1610978089 18<29vZS1_2>Yeah. But that's my fauly. Experimenting
T 1610978092 18<29vZS1_2>fault*
T 1610978103 18<19schestowitz__>I planned to overcome dns last night, but ended up adding images to bulletins instead
T 1610978117 18<28MinceR>CrystalMath: so russians are more clueful than they're being given credit for?
T 1610978120 18<19schestowitz__>I am still tinkering with image options
T 1610978126 18<29vZS1_2>IPNS only takes a few minutes. Make sure to backup the keys btw.
T 1610978127 18<19schestowitz__>as covered in the video I upload at this moment
T 1610978144 18<29vZS1_2>As long as your keys are backed up you have no worries
T 1610978171 18<29vZS1_2>My ipfs daemon is still up
T 1610978173 18<19schestowitz__>maybe later this week
T 1610978203 18<29vZS1_2>I've got many friends hooked on IPFS now
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T 1610978217 18<29vZS1_2>They use it instead of sites like Imgur
T 1610978233 18<29vZS1_2>Mostly through the desktop client
T 1610978287 18<28techrights-bot>Going from Bad to Worse: Evidence for Neuro-COVID Infections https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/01/going-from-bad-to-worse-evidence-for-neuro-covid-infections.html "effects in the liver as well as neurological tissues."
T 1610978288 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Going from Bad to Worse: Evidence for Neuro-COVID Infections
T 1610978325 18<29vZS1_2>I still encourage use of BitTorrent as a fallback
T 1610978346 18<29vZS1_2>The only issue with BitTorrent is that you still need to use trackers if you're sharing files that have small demand.
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T 1610978362 18<29vZS1_2>BitTorrent's DHT is practically unusable for low-demand files. You need a tracker.
T 1610978385 18<28techrights-bot>"grace period variances between the five largest patent offices in the world—those of China, the United States, the Republic of Korea, Japan, and the European Union—decrease the likelihood of international coordination" https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3724615
T 1610978386 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606papers.ssrn.com | A Uniform Grace Period: Promoting International Research and Development Collaboration by Karen Sandrik :: SSRN
T 1610978397 18<29vZS1_2>Whereas the IPFS DHT means even low-demand files are easily found.
T 1610978445 18<28techrights-bot>Is Mr. #wallstreet #lobbying against #patent quality, as usual? https://news.bloomberglaw.com/pharma-and-life-sciences/are-patent-judges-unconstitutional-the-arthrex-case-explained #ptab #uspto
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T 1610978486 18<29vZS1_2>Another nice thing about IPFS is that programmers can use it as a pastebin straight from the CLI
T 1610978497 18<28techrights-bot>Biden Can Lower Drug Prices Without Congress Doing Anything https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/01/05/drug-prices-patent-office-generics-biden/ #patents #monopolies #cartel #pricefixing #patent
T 1610978508 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.washingtonpost.com | Biden can lower drug prices without Congress doing anything - The Washington Post
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T 1610978563 18<28techrights-bot>#apple piling up lousy or shallow #patents for when the business collapses and all that's left is #patent ammo (see Blackberry and Nokia) https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidphelan/2021/01/11/apple-tv-could-have-brilliantly-different-remote-control-patent-reveals/
T 1610978564 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.forbes.com | Apple TV Could Have Brilliantly Different Remote Control, Patent Reveals
T 1610978569 18<29vZS1_2>What's a bit concerning is that the IPFS people are spending a lot of resources on some wacky project called Filecoin
T 1610978593 18<29vZS1_2>Instead of fully devoting their time on IPFS they're pursuing this "incentivization".
T 1610978634 18<29vZS1_2>Completely misguided and waste of resources IMO
T 1610978658 18<28techrights-bot>"Life Sciences IP" is just fancy crypto-language for #patent #monopolies on #life and #nature -- #patents that are antithetical to the law and to morals https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/2020-highlights-in-canadian-life-4611037/
T 1610978659 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-062020 Highlights in Canadian Life Sciences IP and Regulatory Law | Smart & Biggar - JDSupra
T 1610978712 18<28techrights-bot>When #patents (barons' monopolies) matter a lot more than patients and death is OK... so long as profits grow https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/drug-patent-database-revamp-falls-short-of-tackling-high-costs
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T 1610978809 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: what is the likelihood that BT caps me due to ipfs?
T 1610978813 18<19schestowitz__>and their algo penalises us?
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T 1610978888 18<28techrights-bot>"At least 100,000 people have fled their homes in Central African Republic as a rebel coalition calling for the resignation of the president launches attacks around the county" https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/news-feature/2021/01/18/central-african-republic-elections-rebellion-refugees
T 1610978888 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.thenewhumanitarian.org | The New Humanitarian | Thousands flee rebel attacks in Central African Republic
T 1610978929 18<29vZS1_2>schestowitz__: tbh, I can't really tell.
T 1610978934 18<29vZS1_2>I'm not a BT insider
T 1610978941 18<29vZS1_2>Nor do I know any
T 1610978961 18<28techrights-bot>Painting thugs, bullies, patent trolls and profiteers who facilitate monopolies with the "diversity" brush to manufacture consent on the cheap https://www.managingip.com/article/b1q4943p9cqp14/five-ways-ip-firms-furthered-diversity-and-inclusion-last-year
T 1610978963 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.managingip.com | Five ways IP firms furthered diversity and inclusion last year | Managing Intellectual Property
T 1610979149 18<28techrights-bot>Nazi Aryanisation of [propagnda term] - and contemporary efforts to restore it http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/nazi-aryanisation-of-intellectual.html
T 1610979150 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606ipkitten.blogspot.com | Nazi Aryanisation of intellectual property - and contemporary efforts to restore it - The IPKat
T 1610979345 18<28techrights-bot>These zealots don't care about your health. They only care about #patents on #vaccines as that helps barons steal taxpayers' money... http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/ifim-event-year-of-covid-vaccines.html
T 1610979346 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606ipkitten.blogspot.com | IFIM event: The Year of the COVID Vaccines - The IPKat
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T 1610979639 18<19schestowitz__>[14:14] <vZS1_2> I'm not a BT insider
T 1610979640 18<19schestowitz__>two thibngs
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T 1610979648 18<19schestowitz__>1) they mentioned nothing to that effect
T 1610979675 18<19schestowitz__>2) it had run with similar b/w levels for at least a month prior. An automated capping system would not take time to "activate".
T 1610979682 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: will let you know how I get on
T 1610979691 18<19schestowitz__>they offered compensation, which is admission of guilt
T 1610979696 18<19schestowitz__>it was also escalated very high
T 1610979714 18<19schestowitz__>so it shows they're aware of impending ofcom involvement and try to defuse that
T 1610979716 18<19schestowitz__>as it has merit
T 1610979799 18<28techrights-bot>Adding Images as Characters to the Daily Bulletins of Techrights • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/daily-bulletins-with-images/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest
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T 1610979802 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
T 1610979825 18<29techrights-ipfs> ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▅▅▅▆▇▅▆▇▇▇▅▄▅▅▆▂▅▅▆▃▆▄▅▆▃▄▆█▅▆▄▅▅ avg(k/sec) 28.86 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▃▁▂▄▂▂▃▃▂▃▂▂▂▄▂▃▃▂▃▃▂▃▃▂▃▂▃▂▄▂▃▂▃▃▂ avg(k/sec) 10.63 ⟲
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T 1610979963 18<29vZS1_2>Yes, they are legally obliged to meet every Ofcom regulation.
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T 1610979972 18<29vZS1_2>So keep pushing that avenue. It seems to be working.
T 1610979995 18<19schestowitz__>the way I see it
T 1610980015 18<19schestowitz__>it's like reserves duty, every 5 years, wherein I have to combat them to keep my connection up to standatd
T 1610980022 18<19schestowitz__>as I said, this happens every 5 years or so
T 1610980035 18<19schestowitz__>in between it can be very reliable, calm, almost smooth sailing
T 1610980039 18<29vZS1_2>Yeah. Looks like it. Most wouldn't bother with the trouble.
T 1610980045 18<19schestowitz__>yup!
T 1610980049 18<19schestowitz__>that's what I keep saying
T 1610980057 18<19schestowitz__>and it looks like their original strategy with me
T 1610980061 18<19schestowitz__>but it's getting expensive for them
T 1610980069 18<19schestowitz__>5 phone hours, inc. with their high-paid managers
T 1610980073 18<19schestowitz__>plus bad publciity
T 1610980075 18<29vZS1_2>Not to mention they are breaking the law
T 1610980087 18<19schestowitz__>possibly 3 separate formal complaints by now, ofcom next
T 1610980101 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: I would not put it as you did
T 1610980104 18<19schestowitz__>those are regulations
T 1610980112 18<19schestowitz__>laws and regulations are different terms
T 1610980117 18<19schestowitz__>and the penalties vary
T 1610980128 18<19schestowitz__>they don't meet their side of the contract
T 1610980137 18<19schestowitz__>hence they said they'd refund me this month's bill
T 1610980154 18<19schestowitz__>but the time wasted on this is tremendous, even without counting the time just lost to the low speeds
T 1610980170 18<29vZS1_2>Disruption of work on top of that
T 1610980171 18<19schestowitz__>each time they answer the phone and send en engineer it costs them too
T 1610980188 18<19schestowitz__>so I bring them to wrestle at their own (joint) expense, not only mine
T 1610980197 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: for 2+ weeks now
T 1610980202 18<19schestowitz__>and not just me, wife also
T 1610980206 18<19schestowitz__>she works from home
T 1610980212 18<26psydroid>how come they didn't invest more in infrastructure for the past 20+ years?
T 1610980214 18<19schestowitz__>we need to treat Internet now like water supply
T 1610980224 18<19schestowitz__>as people can become unemployed if they lose their Net link
T 1610980234 18<19schestowitz__>and they cannot go elsewhere, it's illegal under Tier 5
T 1610980245 18<19schestowitz__>psydroid: me?
T 1610980248 18<19schestowitz__>like dual ISP?
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T 1610980257 18<19schestowitz__>very expensive for very little gain
T 1610980260 18<26psydroid>schestowitz_, I mean BT
T 1610980265 18<19schestowitz__>oh, BT
T 1610980272 18<19schestowitz__>we were busy brexit means brexit
T 1610980276 18<19schestowitz__>we SHOW em
T 1610980286 18<19schestowitz__>days after brexit deal... BOOM! We lost capacity here
T 1610980313 18<19schestowitz__>you might joke thatg EU punishing us by capping underwater capacity thresholds for not-so-EU-UK
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T 1610980325 18<19schestowitz__>a friend of mine jokes to that effect
T 1610980337 18<19schestowitz__>maybe if we dig deep enough it'll turn out they hide something rather big
T 1610980348 18<19schestowitz__>as they never want to directly answer questions I ask about it
T 1610980351 18<19schestowitz__>even their top managers
T 1610980385 18<29vZS1_2>BT make their money by leverage. They "own" most of the infrastructure. Other providers "rent" it from them.#
T 1610980397 18<29vZS1_2>Nothing to do with research or innovation
T 1610980404 18<19schestowitz__>it means they have advantage, too
T 1610980419 18<19schestowitz__>and being their 'client' can get you dealt with faster
T 1610980424 18<19schestowitz__>like 'open'reach
T 1610980427 18<19schestowitz__>openwash
T 1610980444 18<29vZS1_2>Yeah. Every time I see "open" prefixed to something, I now get immediately suspicious.
T 1610980450 18<19schestowitz__>tbh, they can be OK for 4-5 years, but it's when this type of stuff happens that you can lose a month
T 1610980462 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: they now call open the vaccine
T 1610980500 18<19schestowitz__>the whole passport thing
T 1610980503 18<19schestowitz__>they call it open
T 1610980513 18<29vZS1_2>That's why I always say "Freedom-respecting Software" or "Software Freedom"
T 1610980517 18<19schestowitz__>[19:04] <DaemonFC[m]> https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/16/tech/coronavirus-vaccine-records-microsoft-salesforce/index.html
T 1610980517 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Microsoft, Oracle and other tech giants team up Covid-19 vaccine 'passports' - CNN
T 1610980517 18<29vZS1_2>Never "Open"
T 1610980518 18<19schestowitz__>[19:04] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- Microsoft, Oracle and and other tech giants Salesforce team up Covid-19 vaccine 'passports' - CNN
T 1610980520 18<19schestowitz__>[19:04] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: Now they use "open source" to refer to something that's not even about open source software at all.
T 1610980523 18<19schestowitz__>I said last yeat
T 1610980527 18<19schestowitz__>open source is dead
T 1610980531 18<19schestowitz__>osi did not police the brand
T 1610980541 18<19schestowitz__>now it's 101% meaningless
T 1610980550 18<19schestowitz__>let's see if they can kill the FreeSW brand too
T 1610980555 18<29vZS1_2>This is why I am also against "FOSS"
T 1610980559 18<29vZS1_2>The word
T 1610980560 18<19schestowitz__>without alluding to "free" stuff
T 1610980565 18<19schestowitz__>we need to say "Freedom"
T 1610980570 18<29vZS1_2>Exactly
T 1610980573 18<19schestowitz__>harder to bend the latter's meaning
T 1610980581 18<19schestowitz__>I don't say FOSS anymore
T 1610980582 18<29vZS1_2>Freedom should always be used instead of Free
T 1610980590 18<19schestowitz__>gives more letters to the attack on FS than to FS itself
T 1610980606 18<19schestowitz__>notice thqat techrights never uses the OS term
T 1610980614 18<19schestowitz__>it used to, or to give them "equal time"
T 1610980628 18<19schestowitz__>I did some article a week ago on why we should all dump "Open Source"
T 1610980633 18<19schestowitz__>OSI surrendered
T 1610980638 18<19schestowitz__>the GM quit
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T 1610980651 18<19schestowitz__>Now it's run by a bunch of dolls and corporates
T 1610980654 18<29vZS1_2>We should s/Free Software/Software Freedom/
T 1610980655 18<19schestowitz__>nobody who even codes
T 1610980664 18<29vZS1_2>It's important and needs to be done
T 1610980671 18<19schestowitz__>which I guess is what the openwashing agenda strived for all along
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T 1610980699 18<19schestowitz__>I am doing a post about EPO ATM
T 1610980702 18<19schestowitz__>SHTF
T 1610980712 18<29vZS1_2>"Free Software" is terribly misleading and has been a detriment to the real movement since they used that stupid name.
T 1610980712 18<19schestowitz__>will set aside the Intel series and FSF series for now
T 1610980722 18<19schestowitz__>yes, RMS has regrets
T 1610980724 18<19schestowitz__>but...
T 1610980746 18<19schestowitz__>as we explained, they'd find some other way to extinguish what he coined... if it was just a semantic difference
T 1610980750 18<19schestowitz__>the issue is the concept
T 1610980754 18<19schestowitz__>not linguistics
T 1610980771 18<19schestowitz__>the media now associates coup with "riot" and "free speech" with nazism
T 1610980786 18<19schestowitz__>freedom is what they call armed libertarians with semi-automatic rifles
T 1610980808 18<19schestowitz__>You can control what you call yourself
T 1610980810 18<19schestowitz__>you cannot:
T 1610980815 18<19schestowitz__>1) control what people call you
T 1610980823 18<19schestowitz__>2) of what they think of you, which relates to (1)
T 1610980827 18<29vZS1_2>The reality is when someone hears "Free Software" they first think about price. Branding is important
T 1610980828 18<19schestowitz__>the media plays a considerable role
T 1610980841 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: you can bypass that
T 1610980843 18<19schestowitz__>5 second
T 1610980859 18<19schestowitz__>when I say "free" I mean "it respects your rights and freedom"
T 1610980867 18<19schestowitz__>and there, carry on with the conversation
T 1610980874 18<29vZS1_2>That's entirely unnecessary and you don't need to waste time with explanations if you just went
T 1610980875 18<19schestowitz__>we wrote a lot about it 2019-2020
T 1610980879 18<29vZS1_2>"Software Freedom Foundation"
T 1610980879 18<19schestowitz__>OSS is based on a lie
T 1610980881 18<29vZS1_2>Fixed
T 1610980884 18<29vZS1_2>No more problem
T 1610980885 18<19schestowitz__>that they overcome the "language" issue
T 1610980906 18<19schestowitz__>that's a corporate red rerring (and was that... all along)
T 1610980915 18<19schestowitz__>*herring
T 1610980916 18<19schestowitz__>it's concern trolling
T 1610980943 18<19schestowitz__>you end up bickering about language
T 1610980946 18<19schestowitz__>not concepts
T 1610980956 18<19schestowitz__>and writing foolish essays about Englishj
T 1610980959 18<19schestowitz__>not privacy, code etc.
T 1610980961 18<29vZS1_2>To most people, the name on the tin matters, believe it or not.
T 1610980968 18<19schestowitz__>like the GNOME Foundation now does...
T 1610980978 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: so alias it
T 1610980988 18<29vZS1_2>I do. I never say "Free Software"
T 1610981001 18<19schestowitz__>"i support free software, by which I mean I support freedom of users and developers to control their computing"
T 1610981010 18<19schestowitz__>it's not really the point imo
T 1610981017 18<19schestowitz__>there are many other facets to discuss
T 1610981018 18<29vZS1_2>I don't use the term "free software" altogether
T 1610981026 18<19schestowitz__>like antimonopoly, which then leads to patents
T 1610981035 18<19schestowitz__>so you entertain all those different angles
T 1610981050 18<19schestowitz__>and call them whatever you want,... the umbrella term isn't what matters most
T 1610981056 18<19schestowitz__>the arguments that go with it matter
T 1610981061 18<19schestowitz__>title versus summarfy
T 1610981073 18<29vZS1_2>To the average joe "I support software freedom" and "I support free software" means two vastly different things.
T 1610981079 18<19schestowitz__>titles matter, but clickbait with no substance beneath it won't stick
T 1610981092 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: you can say either
T 1610981102 18<19schestowitz__>software freedom is also vague to most people
T 1610981112 18<19schestowitz__>they think they're free to buy iphone of android
T 1610981115 18<19schestowitz__>choice
T 1610981116 18<19schestowitz__>not freedom
T 1610981138 18<19schestowitz__>so the old schtick of microsoft is to conflate these two... we gave many actual and present examples over the years
T 1610981157 18<19schestowitz__>they even called whole institutions something "choice"... to lobby and mislead
T 1610981222 18<28techrights-bot>Stadia 'State Share' to launch with #HITMAN3 | GamingOnLinux ⇨ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/stadia-state-share-to-launch-with-hitman-3 •●• #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
T 1610981223 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Stadia 'State Share' to launch with HITMAN 3 | GamingOnLinux
T 1610981277 18<29vZS1_2>I support Software Freedoms
T 1610981279 18<29vZS1_2>Which freedoms?
T 1610981286 18<29vZS1_2>4 freedoms. Provide list
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T 1610981523 18<28techrights-bot>Wine compat layer devs discuss new Kernel interface to better match Windows NT http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146589#comment-27844
T 1610981523 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Wine Developers Are Working On A New Linux Kernel Sync API To Succeed ESYNC/FSYNC | Tux Machines
T 1610981653 18<28techrights-bot>"So the Linux version sold approximately 340 copies which at their normal price of £7.19 that would be somewhere around £2,444.6 (it went on sale once previously, so likely a bit lower). For a small indie developer, that can make all the difference." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/bytten-studio-say-not-to-sleep-on-linux-in-their-postmortem-for-lennas-inception
T 1610981654 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Bytten Studio say not to sleep on Linux in their postmortem for Lenna's Inception | GamingOnLinux
T 1610981681 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: see? that goes beyond 2 words already
T 1610981689 18<19schestowitz__>and those freedoms might not say much to a lot of people
T 1610981702 18<19schestowitz__>because even things like programs and modifying them are foreign concepts
T 1610981706 18<19schestowitz__>you say "app" now
T 1610981710 18<19schestowitz__>"app your ----"
T 1610981751 18<29vZS1_2>I didn't say that we don't go beyond two words. I'm just saying the original term is bad marketing
T 1610981765 18<28techrights-bot>How to steal #freesoftware (and do it badly) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bYpZpTCUFA I like the fact Gardiner Bryant says #freesw now ;-)
T 1610981766 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06How to steal free software (and do it badly) - YouTube
T 1610981793 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: it is
T 1610981804 18<19schestowitz__>rms told me he sort of regretted it but it's too late (iirc)
T 1610981812 18<19schestowitz__>some people suggested liberty something
T 1610981833 18<29vZS1_2>Well, at least we aren't forced to say it ourselves
T 1610981881 18<28techrights-bot>"Irena Genesis Metal Fury looks awesome too and the developer, White Ninja Studio, aren't ignoring #GNU #Linux either." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/irena-genesis-metal-fury-is-an-upcoming-shoot-em-up-for-the-sega-mega-drive
T 1610981882 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Irena Genesis Metal Fury is an upcoming shoot 'em up for the Sega Mega Drive | GamingOnLinux
T 1610981924 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: true
T 1610981933 18<19schestowitz__>geez, I wish I could go back to a functional connection
T 1610981945 18<19schestowitz__>it really impacts what I do and when... cannot be productive so far this year
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T 1610981975 18<28techrights-bot>#techrights daily bulletins now have inside them coarse graphics, depicted using characters alone, and the tool used to generate them announced a new release earlier today; we showcase some of its features (in a new video) http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/daily-bulletins-with-images/
T 1610981976 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Adding Images as Characters to the Daily Bulletins of Techrights | Techrights
T 1610982087 18<28techrights-bot>Monopolists with #patents quipped by hugely corrupt #epo that breaks the law every single day (but it serves oligarchs, so nobody does anything about the EPO's crimes regardless of their severity) https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/nokia-intervenes-for-kpn-in-second-dsl-technology-case-against-assia/
T 1610982089 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.juve-patent.com | Nokia intervenes for KPN in second DSL technology case against Assia - JUVE Patent
T 1610982488 18<28MinceR>https://ircz.de/p/20071336
T 1610982489 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4750805)
T 1610982839 18<29vZS1_2>They did Dumbledore dirty in that new Fantastic Beasts film.
T 1610982877 18<29vZS1_2>Not as witty as he normally is.
T 1610983014 18<28techrights-bot>Install #Inkscape 1.0.2 In Ubuntu / LinuxMint / Debian | Tips On UNIX ⇨ https://www.tipsonunix.com/2021/01/install-inkscape-1-0-2-in-ubuntu-linuxmint-debian/ •●• #tipsonunix
T 1610983018 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tipsonunix.com | Install Inkscape 1.0.2 In Ubuntu / LinuxMint / Debian | Tips On UNIX
T 1610983087 18<28MinceR>https://ircz.de/p/20071230
T 1610983088 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4748183)
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T 1610983373 18<28techrights-bot>building a simple #KVM switch for 30€ ⇨ https://www.die-welt.net/2021/01/building-a-simple-kvm-switch-for-30eur/ •●• #diewelt | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest
T 1610983374 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06building a simple KVM switch for 30€ | die-welt.net
T 1610983375 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
T 1610983425 18<29techrights-ipfs> ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▅▅▆▆▄▅▆▅▅▇▇▃▅▅▄▅▄▇▅▆▅▅▄▆▄▆▅▅▅▆▄ avg(k/sec) 27.43 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▄▃▂▃▃▄▂▃▂▂▃▃▇▁▃▅▃▄▃▄▄▂▃▂▄▅▃▄▃▂▃▂▃▂ avg(k/sec) 12.68 ⟲
T 1610983529 18<28techrights-bot>#opensuse uses #jitsi https://news.opensuse.org/2021/01/18/meetup-will-discuss-survey-results-project-improvements/ #suse #gnu #linux
T 1610983531 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606news.opensuse.org | Meetup Will Discuss Survey Results, Project Improvements - openSUSE News
T 1610983565 18<28techrights-bot>Linux Support Is Coming To Allow De-Authorizing #Thunderbolt Devices • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146602 •●• #GNU #Kernel #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest
T 1610983566 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Support Is Coming To Allow De-Authorizing Thunderbolt Devices | Tux Machines
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T 1610983732 18<28techrights-bot>Games: Stadia, Harvest Days, Lenna’s Inception and More • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146603 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest
T 1610983733 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Stadia, Harvest Days, Lenna's Inception and More | Tux Machines
T 1610983793 18<28techrights-bot>An introduction to hashing and checksums in Linux | Enable Sysadmin ⇨ https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/hashing-checksums •●• #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux
T 1610983794 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.redhat.com | An introduction to hashing and checksums in Linux | Enable Sysadmin
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T 1610983990 18<28techrights-bot>Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146604 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1610983990 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
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T 1610984911 18<29vZS1_2>Saw the article on Chafa. Looks promising
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T 1610985085 18<28MinceR>https://ircz.de/p/2012259
T 1610985086 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5125245)
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T 1610986178 18<19DaemonFC[m]>https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/18/us/california-crematoriums-limit-suspension-coronavirus/index.html
T 1610986178 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Air quality regulator temporarily suspends cremation limits for LA County amid 'backlog' from pandemic - CNN
T 1610986200 18<19DaemonFC[m]>They had to suspend the air quality rules in LA for crematoriums who were getting backlogged with more bodies than they could get rid of.
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T 1610986331 18<26smnthermes>https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-37612083
T 1610986332 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Cheran: The town that threw out police, politicians and gangsters - BBC News
T 1610986567 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1: if you can install it
T 1610986572 18<19schestowitz__>then experiment with parameters
T 1610986576 18<19schestowitz__>that would be awesome
T 1610986599 18<19schestowitz__>because with extra glyphs, supported by today's new release, I think we can get very good results
T 1610986611 18<19schestowitz__>look at the example the dev gives of a dog art
T 1610986623 18<19schestowitz__>and far-east asian chatacter sets
T 1610986645 18<19schestowitz__>better than blocks and pipes the version I have in debian buster sticks to
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T 1610986733 18<28techrights-bot>#california burning lots of people. I remember when they accused #china of the same. How many die with #covid19 in China? https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/18/us/california-crematoriums-limit-suspension-coronavirus/index.html
T 1610986775 18<19schestowitz__>smnthermes: would they be replaced by something better as the years go by?
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T 1610986784 18<19schestowitz__>it always started with supposedly good intentions
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T 1610987024 18<29techrights-ipfs> ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▆▅▁▄▅▆▅▇▅▃▆▅▆▅▅▇▅▄▅▆▄▄▆▅▆▆▄▅▄▅▅▆▄ avg(k/sec) 26.75 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▃▄▃▁▃▄▃▃▃▄▁▂▄▄▄▂▃▁▂▂▃▂▁▃▃▃▄▄▃▃▂▃▂▃▂ avg(k/sec) 11.91 ⟲
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T 1610987672 18<28MinceR>(cat) https://ircz.de/p/20122447
T 1610987673 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5123738)
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T 1610990530 18<28techrights-bot>#Propaganda event whose very title is a propaganda term http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/event-report-ifim-holiday-seminar-tales.html
T 1610990532 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606ipkitten.blogspot.com | [Event Report] IFIM Holiday Seminar - Tales of the New Doctors of Law - The IPKat
T 1610990624 18<29techrights-ipfs> ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▃▄▆▅▅▄▄▆▇▅▆▅▅▅▅▆▅▅▅▇▅▆▅▅▄▅▃▅▄▆▄ avg(k/sec) 27.21 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▃▃▁▂▁▂▂▄▃▁▂▃▂▅▂▃▃▃▃▁▂▅▃▄▃▃▂▄▃▂▂▄▃▂ avg(k/sec) 12.06 ⟲
T 1610990697 18<28techrights-bot>#Biden already subjected to a mobbing assault of propagandists and #lobbyists calling for #protectionism for the rich, using utterly false narratives. The @USPTO could use someone like #MichelleLee again. https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/01/project-proposals-administration.html
T 1610990698 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606patentlyo.com | Day One Project: USPTO Proposals for the Biden Administration | Patently-O
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T 1610990790 18<28techrights-bot>Create Bootable #USB Using Etcher in Linux • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146605 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest
T 1610990790 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Create Bootable USB Using Etcher in Linux | Tux Machines
T 1610990792 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
T 1610990892 18<20Techrights-sec>https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/mlk-day-demands-capitol-rioters-white-supremacists-face-swift-justice-ncna1254489
T 1610990894 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.nbcnews.com | MLK Day demands that Capitol rioters and white supremacists face swift justice
T 1610990918 18<19schestowitz__>let's hijack mlk to do the very thing which was used to arrest him and get him killed (allegedly)
T 1610990957 18<28techrights-bot>So... let's hijack #mlk to do the very thing which was used to arrest him and get him killed (allegedly) https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/mlk-day-demands-capitol-rioters-white-supremacists-face-swift-justice-ncna1254489
T 1610990965 18<20Techrights-sec>Many hijack his legacy, or try to hijack it, to advance racism.
T 1610990965 18<20Techrights-sec>\
T 1610990989 18<19schestowitz__>Maybe they should mention what he thought about the military and capitalism ;p) (same for Malala for that matter)
T 1610991050 18<20Techrights-sec>"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."
T 1610991050 18<20Techrights-sec>That's the opposite of what's happnening on many fronts.
T 1610991050 18<20Techrights-sec>Yep. His thoughts on the military and capitalism are usually brushed under
T 1610991050 18<20Techrights-sec>the rug.
T 1610991130 18<19schestowitz__>BillByCee https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-44235156
T 1610991134 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.bbc.co.uk | Steve Bannon: Martin Luther King would be proud of Trump - BBC News
T 1610991160 18<20Techrights-sec>https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/liberation-curriculum/classroom-resources/king-quotes-war-and-peace
T 1610991161 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606kinginstitute.stanford.edu | King Quotes on War and Peace | The Martin Luther King, Jr., Research and Education Institute
T 1610991203 18<20Techrights-sec>'This is where we are. "Mankind must put an end to war or war will put an
T 1610991203 18<20Techrights-sec>end to mankind," and the best way to start is to put an end to war in
T 1610991203 18<20Techrights-sec>Vietnam, because if it continues, we will inevitably come to the point
T 1610991203 18<20Techrights-sec>of confronting China which could lead the whole world to nuclear
T 1610991203 18<20Techrights-sec>annihilation.'
T 1610991264 18<19schestowitz__>BillbyCee as megaphone for racists and misogynists to help rile up the public against anyone but oligarchy
T 1610991348 18<20Techrights-sec>Yes BBC is overing for the oligarchy, among other problems it makes worse.
T 1610991368 18<19schestowitz__>I've quit even using Billby for weather and football, I use just the CLI now
T 1610991407 18<20Techrights-sec>BTW although you've been busy, did you have a chance to look
T 1610991408 18<20Techrights-sec>at the transcript from the video link?
T 1610991408 18<20Techrights-sec> https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/how-tech-loses-out
T 1610991409 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606berthub.eu | How Tech Loses Out over at Companies, Countries and Continents - Articles
T 1610991420 18<19schestowitz__>No, I will link to it now
T 1610991589 18<28techrights-bot>The age of DELIBERATELY delayed reckonings https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/01/the-age-of-deliberately-delayed-reckonings/ #nytimes
T 1610991590 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606stop.zona-m.net | The age of DELIBERATELY delayed reckonings | Stop at Zona-M
T 1610991646 18<28techrights-bot>YOU are the product. https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/01/with-smart-apps-and-media-you-are-the-product.-even.../ move to #freesw ... you will never regret that, especially in this Orwellian world/society.
T 1610991648 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606stop.zona-m.net | With "smart" apps and media, YOU are the product. Even... | Stop at Zona-M
T 1610991729 18<28MinceR>https://ircz.de/p/2012242
T 1610991730 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5122568)
T 1610991746 18<28techrights-bot>To #facebook you are just a disposable product. Not a person. Not an individual. A disposable product to mistreat, abuse, mislead and punish. https://www.theitstuff.com/whatsapp-privacy-policy-2021
T 1610991746 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06WhatsApp Privacy Policy 2021 - Account Suspension Date Extended. | TheITstuff
T 1610991971 18<28techrights-bot>"Smart" just means it's connected to a microphone with back doors https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/01/18/cybovac-s31-review-a-smart-robot-vacuum-cleaner-with-visual-slam-support/
T 1610991972 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.cnx-software.com | Cybovac S31 Review - A smart robot vacuum cleaner with visual SLAM support
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T 1610992642 18<28techrights-bot>Visualizing system performance with #RHEL 8 using Performance Co-Pilot (PCP) and #Grafana (Part 1) ⇨ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/visualizing-system-performance-rhel-8-using-performance-co-pilot-pcp-and-grafana-part-1 •●• #RedHat #IBM #Linux
T 1610992643 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.redhat.com | Visualizing system performance with RHEL 8 using Performance Co-Pilot (PCP) and Grafana (Part 1)
T 1610992708 18<28techrights-bot>"Self-care is hard. Even before 2020, disconnecting and letting our minds and bodies rest was no picnic" https://opensource.com/article/21/1/self-care
T 1610992709 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Tips for incorporating self-care into your daily routine | Opensource.com
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T 1610992937 18<28techrights-bot>#TeamUPC keeps trotting out those lies about UPC being merely "delayed" -- a lie they certainly tell their clients to save face https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/news/erneut-verzoegerungen-beim-eu-einheitspatent see http://techrights.org/2020/12/22/german-constitutional-court-second-take/
T 1610992939 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.pinsentmasons.com | European Unified Patent Court is delayed again
T 1610992939 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | The UPC is Dead, Long Live the German Constitutional Court | Techrights
T 1610993160 18<28techrights-bot>A Miniature VT102 Running A Miniature #PDP11 • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146607 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest
T 1610993161 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | A Miniature VT102 Running A Miniature PDP11 | Tux Machines
T 1610993162 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
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T 1610993443 18<28techrights-bot>#Haruna Video Player: An Open-Source Qt-based MPV GUI Front-end for Linux • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146608 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1610993443 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Haruna Video Player: An Open-Source Qt-based MPV GUI Front-end for Linux | Tux Machines
T 1610993536 18<28techrights-bot>Upgrading #Ubuntu • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146606 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines "Given I work for Canonical, this isn’t especially surprising."
T 1610993537 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Upgrading Ubuntu | Tux Machines
T 1610993637 18<28techrights-bot>#KDE e.V. board meeting January 2021 (2) | [bobulate] ⇨ https://euroquis.nl//kde/2021/01/18/board2.html •●• #euroquis #gnu #linux #freebsd
T 1610993638 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606euroquis.nl | KDE e.V. board meeting January 2021 (2) | [bobulate]
T 1610993703 18<28techrights-bot>#GeeXboX 20210117 is out today or yesterday http://www.geexbox.org/ #gnu #linux
T 1610993704 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Welcome to GeeXboX.org!
T 1610993763 18<28techrights-bot>Text Encoding Menu of #mozilla #firefox in 2021 https://hsivonen.fi/encoding-menu-2021/ #language #www #freesw
T 1610993764 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606hsivonen.fi | Text Encoding Menu in 2021
T 1610993821 18<28techrights-bot>#GCC 11 Is On The Final Stage Of Development With 60+ High Priority Regressions - Phoronix ⇨ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GCC-11-Hits-Stage-4 •●• #GNU #freesw
T 1610993823 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06GCC 11 Is On The Final Stage Of Development With 60+ High Priority Regressions - Phoronix
T 1610993907 18<28techrights-bot>#mozilla #firefox "For users who have telemetry [sic] ( #surveillance ) enabled, we collect data about whether the item “Automatic” was used at least once in given Firefox subsession" "https://hsivonen.fi/encoding-menu-2021/
T 1610994108 18<28techrights-bot>#ncmpcpp – featureful #ncurses based #MPD client inspired by #ncmpc • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146610 •●• #Linux #deletegithub
T 1610994109 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | ncmpcpp – featureful ncurses based MPD client inspired by ncmpc | Tux Machines
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T 1610994465 18<28techrights-bot>Stable Kernels: 5.10.8, 5.4.90, 4.19.168, 4.14.216, 4.9.252 , and 4.4.252 • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146609 •●• #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1610994465 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.10.8, 5.4.90, 4.19.168, 4.14.216, 4.9.252 , and 4.4.252 | Tux Machines
T 1610994606 18<28techrights-bot>This service is maintained by the Federated Networks Association
T 1610994686 18<28techrights-bot>Stephen Michael Kellat: Leveraging LaTeX In This Time http://coyote.works//posts/MakeNewspaper20210118/ #latex #tex #typesetting #freesw
T 1610994687 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606coyote.works | Leveraging LaTeX In This Time
T 1610994904 18<28techrights-bot>"In this video, I am going to show an overview of #Ubuntu Unity Remix 20.10 and some of the applications pre-installed." #gnu #linux https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6RbuUm9LFw
T 1610994904 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Ubuntu Unity Remix 20.10 overview | UNITY7 MODERNIZED. - YouTube
T 1610994985 18<28techrights-bot>#HowTo install Signal Private Messenger on Linux | FOSS Linux ⇨ https://www.fosslinux.com/45311/install-signal-private-messenger-on-linux.htm Not that I trust it. For MANY reasons. #deletegithub #vault7 #wikileaks
T 1610994985 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.fosslinux.com | How to install Signal Private Messenger on Linux | FOSS Linux
T 1610995367 18<28techrights-bot>#UBlock Origin and custom filters - Mini tutorial ⇨ https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ublock-origin-custom-filters.html •●• #dedoimedo #www
T 1610995367 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.dedoimedo.com | UBlock Origin and custom filters - Mini tutorial
T 1610995488 18<28techrights-bot>apt-key Is Deprecated. How To Add #OpenPGP Repository Signing Keys Without It On Debian, #Ubuntu , Linux Mint, Pop!_OS, Etc. https://www.linuxuprising.com/2021/01/apt-key-is-deprecated-how-to-add.html #gnu #linux
T 1610995489 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.linuxuprising.com | apt-key Is Deprecated. How To Add OpenPGP Repository Signing Keys Without It On Debian, Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Pop!_OS, Etc. - Linux Uprising Blog
T 1610995643 18<28techrights-bot>#LinuxintheHamShack Episode #387: Compiling Software Deep Dive https://lhspodcast.info/2021/01/lhs-episode-387-compiling-software-deep-dive-2/ #lhspodcast #gnu #linux
T 1610995644 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606lhspodcast.info | LHS Episode #387: Compiling Software Deep Dive | Linux in the Ham Shack
T 1610995889 18<19schestowitz__>Going from Bad to Worse: Evidence for Neuro-COVID Infections https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/01/going-from-bad-to-worse-evidence-for-neuro-covid-infections.html "effects in the liver as well as neurological tissues."
T 1610995890 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Going from Bad to Worse: Evidence for Neuro-COVID Infections
T 1610995960 18<19DaemonFC[m]>schestowitz__: Fake news. Herd immunity!
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T 1610995992 18<19schestowitz__>DaemonFC[m]: immunity from impeachment
T 1610995995 18<19schestowitz__>herd=GOP
T 1610996004 18<19DaemonFC[m]>We've managed to avoid the Orange Man Flu as far as I know.
T 1610996076 18<19DaemonFC[m]>How the hell is he orange? Did we ever figure that out?
T 1610996126 18<19DaemonFC[m]>The doctor who proclaimed that Trump was the healthiest president ever (then admitted Trump dictated the entire letter) died this month.
T 1610996154 18<19DaemonFC[m]>But "healthiest president ever" was not even up for debate. Obama went on long jogs. Trump could barely make it down stairs.
T 1610996182 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Trump could barely figure out where he was at, slurred his speech constantly. It was scary.
T 1610996220 18<19DaemonFC[m]>The news camera recorded him getting off Air Force One and walking aimlessly away from the plane down the runway until someone noticed.
T 1610996255 18<28techrights-bot>#Android Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146611 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest
T 1610996256 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
T 1610996257 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
T 1610996614 18<28techrights-bot>#intel is falling way behind https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=hifive-inventor-kit&num=1 #sifive #riscv #openhardware
T 1610996614 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06SiFive Helping To Teach Kids Programming With RISC-V HiFive Inventor Coding Kit - Phoronix
T 1610996738 18<28techrights-bot>Odin is finally pleased so the open-world survival game Valheim releases on February 2 | GamingOnLinux ⇨ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/odin-is-finally-pleased-so-the-open-world-survival-game-valheim-releases-on-february-2 "Valheim from Iron Gate AB will enter Early Access with #GNU #Linux ..."
T 1610996739 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Odin is finally pleased so the open-world survival game Valheim releases on February 2 | GamingOnLinux
T 1610996966 18<28techrights-bot>#JingOS arrives as China’s first Linux Distro, offers #iPadOS -like features and functions • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146598#comment-27847 •●• #GNU #Linux
T 1610996967 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | JingOS arrives as China’s first Linux Distro, offers iPadOS-like features and functions | Tux Machines
T 1610997388 18<28techrights-bot>#GNURadio 3.9.0.0 released • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146612 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest
T 1610997389 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Radio 3.9.0.0 released | Tux Machines
T 1610997510 18<19schestowitz__>[19:02] <DaemonFC[m]> The news camera recorded him getting off Air Force One and walking aimlessly away from the plane down the runway until someone noticed.
T 1610997515 18<19schestowitz__>his physician died this month
T 1610997520 18<19schestowitz__>aged 73, iirc
T 1610997527 18<19schestowitz__>not too healthy for that occupation
T 1610997530 18<19schestowitz__>also used windows xp
T 1610997537 18<19schestowitz__>so the virus issue was long coming
T 1610997702 18<28techrights-bot>"The Xtra-PC #Linux USB-Stick might be your solution if you have problems with your old and slow PC. It's a small flash drive stick and it's using Linux OS to boost you PC's operations. Check out now." https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/01/18/2160154/0/en/Xtra-PC-Reviews-Best-Linux-USB-Stick-Product-Review-by-Rick-Finn.html
T 1610997703 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.globenewswire.com | Xtra-PC Reviews – Best Linux USB-Stick? - Product Review by Rick Finn
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T 1610997882 18<28techrights-bot>Fact check: As #Wikipedia turns 20, how credible is it? https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-as-wikipedia-turns-20-how-credible-is-it/a-56228222 MSM likes it as long as it perpetuates MSM narratives
T 1610997883 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Fact check: As Wikipedia turns 20, how credible is it? | Europe| News and current affairs from around the continent | DW | 14.01.2021
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T 1610997946 18<28techrights-bot>Jimmy Wales: “Wikipedia is from a different era” ⇨ https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/internet/2021/01/jimmy-wales-wikipedia-different-era •●• #newstatesman | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest
T 1610997946 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.newstatesman.com | Jimmy Wales: “Wikipedia is from a different era”
T 1610998060 18<28techrights-bot>#Wikipedia is twenty. It’s time to start covering it better. - #ColumbiaJournalismReview ⇨ https://www.cjr.org/opinion/wikipedia-is-twenty-its-time-to-start-covering-it-better.php •●• #cjr
T 1610998061 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.cjr.org | Wikipedia is twenty. It’s time to start covering it better. - Columbia Journalism Review
T 1610998397 18<25XRevan86>https://existentialcomics.com/comic/377
T 1610998398 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606existentialcomics.com | Zera Yacob - Existential Comics
T 1610998564 18<28MinceR>:)
T 1610998991 18<28techrights-bot>#InteLeaks – Part XIX: #Intel ’s Web ’Experts’ Seen as #Microsoft Champions Dealing With the Platform Microsoft is Looking to Destroy • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/webops-at-intel/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
T 1610998991 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | InteLeaks – Part XIX: Intel’s Web ‘Experts’ Seen as Microsoft Champions Dealing With the Platform Microsoft is Looking to Destroy | Techrights
T 1610998992 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights
T 1610999026 18<28MinceR>https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/17/3624658a216cb1e6.jpg
T 1610999102 18<19schestowitz__>who are those for?
T 1610999184 18<28MinceR>dunno
T 1610999204 18<19schestowitz__>fruit with legs :0
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T 1610999572 18<19DaemonFC[m]>schestowitz__: Wikipedia is under a sustained corruption effort by sockpuppet accounts.
T 1610999592 18<19DaemonFC[m]>They pretty much sanitize articles about large corporations, move criticism to pages people won't read or delete it entirely, etc.
T 1610999601 18<19DaemonFC[m]>It has been this way for a long time.
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T 1610999701 18<19DaemonFC[m]>They let "anyone edit it", but they ban IP addresses of Tor exit nodes and VPN servers.
T 1610999702 18<29vZS1_2>Hola
T 1610999715 18<19DaemonFC[m]>So if you make any edits, they have logs of who said that.
T 1610999773 18<29vZS1_2>I've long been skeptical of Wikipedia's articles on corporations.
T 1610999775 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Not only won't edits tend to last long, but if they're something that the government doesn't like, they'll know who did it.
T 1610999793 18<19DaemonFC[m]>They even delete edit history sometimes.
T 1610999794 18<29vZS1_2>There's a lot of places they're saying Linux deliberately, instead of GNU.
T 1610999804 18<29vZS1_2>When the software is 100% GNU and nothing to do with the Linux kernel
T 1610999911 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Before that, you had things like Compton's, Britannica, and Microsoft Encarta.
T 1610999927 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Those had other problems.
T 1610999975 18<19DaemonFC[m]>They were expensive, became outdated quickly, you had to buy updates to stay current, and there were a limited number of articles that paid staff would write.
T 1610999997 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Somewhere in my grandmother's house there was a World Book set from like 1954.
T 1611000014 18<19DaemonFC[m]>They actually spent money on that from a door to door encyclopedia salesman.
T 1611000060 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I'm sure nobody actually read it. Gonad might have had some fall off and klunk him on the head later, but I don't know. I'll add it to Wikipedia.
T 1611000063 18<29vZS1_2>When you have an anyone-can-edit model, you enevitably end up with people bickering over some things.
T 1611000076 18<29vZS1_2>The problem with Wikipedia is that those arguments often get censored
T 1611000085 18<29vZS1_2>vanishes overnight
T 1611000139 18<19schestowitz__>[19:58] <DaemonFC[m]> They pretty much sanitize articles about large corporations, move criticism to pages people won't read or delete it entirely, etc.
T 1611000147 18<19schestowitz__>yes, I quit caring about editing wikipedia
T 1611000155 18<19schestowitz__>but I often use it as reference for things
T 1611000172 18<29vZS1_2>The problem is particularly bad for us GNU software users
T 1611000182 18<29vZS1_2>Because you have corporate shills fucking up our history
T 1611000210 18<29vZS1_2>It's not like this for, say, the mathematics side of Wikipedia (which is excellent, overall).
T 1611000237 18<28techrights-bot>Too many buzzwords in this headline. Buzzwords and hype overload. https://www.iottechtrends.com/5g-limitations-and-what-they-mean-for-iot/ what has happened to actual journalism?
T 1611000238 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.iottechtrends.com | 5G Limitations and What They Mean for IoT - IoT Tech Trends
T 1611000242 18<29vZS1_2>Subtle places where they openwash things
T 1611000302 18<19schestowitz__>http://techrights.org/category/wikipedia/
T 1611000303 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Wikipedia | Techrights
T 1611000404 18<28techrights-bot>#wikipedia turns 20, but is damaged http://techrights.org/category/wikipedia/ #wikileaks has far better accuracy/crecdibility because it offers OFFICIAL source material. Hence it came after attacks (ad hominem, deplatforming etc.) by oligarchs.
T 1611000593 18<28techrights-bot>3 Helpful Networking Projects for Your #RaspberryPi • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146613 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest
T 1611000594 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | 3 Helpful Networking Projects for Your Raspberry Pi | Tux Machines
T 1611000595 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
T 1611000634 18<28techrights-bot>Arduino Blog - Old keyboard turned into a new children’s learning toy ⇨ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/01/18/old-keyboard-turned-into-a-new-childrens-learning-toy/ •●• #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest
T 1611000635 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606blog.arduino.cc | Arduino Blog » Old keyboard turned into a new children’s learning toy
T 1611000725 18<28techrights-bot>"The course of the #RakuLang #Programming Language by #AndrewShitov made it to the top 20 of #HackerNews and spurred quite a few comments. The first associated Grant Report was also published." https://rakudoweekly.blog/2021/01/18/2021-03-course-topped/
T 1611000726 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606rakudoweekly.blog | 2021.03 Course Topped – Rakudo Weekly News
T 1611000782 18<28techrights-bot>Basic #Security For Every #GNU #Linux #Server https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB81KEMerRI
T 1611000783 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Basic Security For Every Linux Server - YouTube
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T 1611000822 18<29vZS1_2>schestowitz__: I'm keeping notes of how hard it is to avoid Red Hat in a contemporary GNU/Linux workstation setup.
T 1611000837 18<29vZS1_2>It's pretty infuriating how much they've infiltrated GNU/Linux.
T 1611000847 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Eh, it's like colleges. Holocaust denial and their two minutes hate of all those horrible white people.
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T 1611000867 18<29vZS1_2>I'm tossing out PAM, systemd, dbus, etc.
T 1611000871 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Which ones? Oh, all of them whether they did anything bad or not.
T 1611000877 18<19DaemonFC[m]>They're all the same. Totally not racist.
T 1611000903 18<28techrights-bot>Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146614 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1611000904 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
T 1611000907 18<28MinceR>https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/17/7e7b0edf5e75c8ee.jpg
T 1611000927 18<29vZS1_2>It doesn't help that most things in the "free"desktop project are all Red Hat as well
T 1611000932 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Most people are just trying to make it through life as unmolested by The State as they can.
T 1611000939 18<19DaemonFC[m]>That makes you an extremist now, though.
T 1611000954 18<19DaemonFC[m]>They don't stop until you actually do love big brother.
T 1611001016 18<29vZS1_2>schestowitz__: I'm sure there are other anti-RedHat Gentoo users. I'll try to find them and bring them here. We probably share many things in common.
T 1611001035 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I was actually stunned in the 90s that Star Trek Voyager of all things was the first place I saw a sort of "open debate" about where the rights of a person end, as it pertains to suicide.
T 1611001063 18<19DaemonFC[m]>The Q Continuum asked Janeway to step in and act as a sort of judge to see if one of their own had the right to end his existence.
T 1611001113 18<19DaemonFC[m]>He wasn't sick because they don't get sick. He wasn't dying because they don't die. He just felt like he had lived too long and seen too much and was weary of everything.
T 1611001235 18<19DaemonFC[m]>There's not even that much you can see in this world, right? Just a limited amount of things to do, especially as poor as The Owners keep everyone, intentionally.
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T 1611001309 18<19DaemonFC[m]>schestowitz__: I've started mocking Gates, Bezos, Zuckerberg, etc. as "Our benefactors.".
T 1611001309 18<19schestowitz__>Star Trek ?!
T 1611001326 18<19schestowitz__>you are a rich nation
T 1611001328 18<19DaemonFC[m]>It's like Half Life 2 where they take over Earth and enslave everyone they've allowed to live.
T 1611001329 18<19schestowitz__>many rich people
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T 1611001337 18<19schestowitz__>robbing people who work two jobs to make ends meet
T 1611001340 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Not really.
T 1611001341 18<19schestowitz__>not a "rich natiom"
T 1611001346 18<19schestowitz__>"rich PEOPLE's nationm"
T 1611001349 18<19DaemonFC[m]>There's super rich numbering in the thousands maybe.
T 1611001350 18<19schestowitz__>they control everything
T 1611001355 18<19schestowitz__>inc. the two major parties
T 1611001358 18<19schestowitz__>and the media
T 1611001360 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Which own like 80-90% of the wealth.
T 1611001367 18<19schestowitz__>American Dream.. for SOME anyway ;-)
T 1611001382 18<19DaemonFC[m]>On a private island with unlimited COVID tests.
T 1611001391 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Dosing themselves with as much of the vaccine as they could ever want.
T 1611001393 18<19schestowitz__>[20:27] <DaemonFC[m]> There's super rich numbering in the thousands maybe.
T 1611001396 18<19schestowitz__>wow, thousands
T 1611001397 18<19schestowitz__>well done
T 1611001401 18<19schestowitz__>one neighbourhood
T 1611001407 18<19schestowitz__>running half a continent
T 1611001410 18<19schestowitz__>and abroad too
T 1611001423 18<19schestowitz__>like super-rich remnants from The British Empire
T 1611001423 18<29techrights-ipfs> ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▅▅▆▅▄▅▅▇▅▅▆▄▅▃▄▅▅▅▅▅▄▆▅▄▆▅▄▄▅▇▅ avg(k/sec) 26.20 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▄▂▂▃▂▄▅▃▃▂▂▃▃▄▂▃▂▃▂▃▃▃▄▄▃▁▂▂▂▂▃▂▃▄▂▃▂▄ avg(k/sec) 12.28 ⟲
T 1611001485 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I think I saw something that said about 6,600 Americans own over 80% of the total wealth.
T 1611001492 18<19DaemonFC[m]>In a nation of 340 million, iirc.
T 1611001503 18<19DaemonFC[m]>The Census figures aren't released just yet.
T 1611001552 18<19DaemonFC[m]>schestowitz__: Meanwhile, the state beats Mandy up for his Walmart money. Like MARISOL.
T 1611001560 18<29vZS1_2>Particularly entertaining email from Linus before they castrated him: https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/6/23/657
T 1611001561 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606lkml.org | LKML: Linus Torvalds: Re: kdbus: to merge or not to merge?
T 1611001574 18<28techrights-bot>Running #Windows apps on #GNU #Linux is set to get a major boost http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146589#comment-27849
T 1611001575 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Wine Developers Are Working On A New Linux Kernel Sync API To Succeed ESYNC/FSYNC | Tux Machines
T 1611001590 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Every time he earns $100, Illinois takes $5 of it before he sees it and $8 of every $100 he spends.
T 1611001618 18<28MinceR>that's cheap compared to what hungary does
T 1611001632 18<19DaemonFC[m]>MinceR: That's not counting the federal government.
T 1611001638 18<28MinceR>:>
T 1611001648 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Most Americans lose about 40% of their income to the government, I think.
T 1611001666 18<19DaemonFC[m]>In return, we get potholes and dilapidated buildings and no police while the riots are happening.
T 1611001691 18<28techrights-bot>Torvalds: "Having looked at the #dbus performance, and come to the conclusion that the reason dbus performs abysmally badly is just pure shit user space code, I am not AT ALL impressed by the performance argument." https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/6/23/657
T 1611001699 18<19DaemonFC[m]>A state that disarms us so that when the reavers finally turn their attention on our homes and property we have to fend them off with a whiffle bat.
T 1611001791 18<28techrights-bot>"It means that any mobster worldwide could do the same to identify a particularly “obnoxious”, but especially annoying officer investigating his activities." https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/01/whats-the-difference-between-bad-students-and-cops/
T 1611001792 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606stop.zona-m.net | What's the difference between bad students and cops? | Stop at Zona-M
T 1611001868 18<19DaemonFC[m]>MinceR: The Fed cut off Illinois from getting more loans.
T 1611001903 18<19DaemonFC[m]>We have....a matter of months before the state is out of money and unpaid bills pile up again.
T 1611001912 18<19DaemonFC[m]>It's more of a religion than a state.
T 1611001931 18<19DaemonFC[m]>No matter how much money it gets, they need more. Can't tell you what happened to it. They just need more.
T 1611002089 18<28techrights-bot>Improved Battery Reporting For Newer #Logitech Devices Coming To #Linux 5.12 • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146615 •●• #kernel
T 1611002112 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Improved Battery Reporting For Newer Logitech Devices Coming To Linux 5.12 | Tux Machines
T 1611002161 18<28techrights-bot>"Well this is a doozey. Made public a while back was a security vulnerability in many Snap Packages and the Snapcraft tool used to create them. Specifically, this is the vulnerability identified as CVE-2020-27348" https://diddledan.com/2021/01/about-cve-2020-27348/
T 1611002162 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606diddledan.com | About CVE-2020-27348 |
T 1611002167 18<29vZS1_2>For IPC we have pipes, UNIX domain sockets, files, etc. We don't need more Red Hat stuffed into GNU/Linux.
T 1611002239 18<29vZS1_2>It is deliberately making the codebase grow larger just so Red Hat (IBM) has control over more of the ecosystem.
T 1611002280 18<29vZS1_2>You can very easily implement your own pub/sub communication method on top of the available IPC primitives. That's essentially what dbus does
T 1611002341 18<28techrights-bot>#IBM / #RedHat Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146616 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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T 1611002362 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: "ecosystem"?
T 1611002366 18<19schestowitz__>that's what they might call it
T 1611002369 18<19schestowitz__>RMS opposes the term
T 1611002386 18<19schestowitz__>because, iirc, according to him, in a biological ecosystem it's normal to prey on other animals
T 1611002400 18<19schestowitz__>hardly the soothing and vivid image humans like to have of an "ecosystem"
T 1611002415 18<19schestowitz__>where all families are vegetarian or something
T 1611002419 18<19schestowitz__>Red Hat is s shark
T 1611002435 18<19schestowitz__>http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/thomas-grzybowski-on-freesw/
T 1611002436 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Free Software Freedom is Not Linux | Techrights
T 1611002437 18<19schestowitz__>friend of mine was attending one of the OLF Conferences, on Saturday November 7th, and he happened to find a seat listening to Bob Young of Red Hat. Young was telling a story about how a few years ago he had explained to Richard Stallman that he himself was more committed to Free Software than Stallman was. In his view, Stallman was only ideologically supporting Free Software, while Red Hat’s entire business model depended upon on
T 1611002439 18<19schestowitz__>it. And through Red Hat’s commercialization of GNU/Linux, Young had brought open-source/free software into wide-spread corporate acceptance and into the marketplace such that many more people could benefit."\"
T 1611002601 18<29vZS1_2>We should stop spreading the myth that GNU/Linux is successful just because of Red Hat
T 1611002637 18<29vZS1_2>That's a disservice to all the people that contributed over the decades
T 1611002644 18<29vZS1_2>Who have nothing to do with Red Hat
T 1611002732 18<29vZS1_2>What is a problem is Red Hat's control over what seems to be the vast majority of GNU/Linux systems.
T 1611002749 18<29vZS1_2>You will find either one or all of pam, dbus, and systemd on them.
T 1611002842 18<29vZS1_2>Instead of taking good ideas from the BSDs or something like Plan 9, GNU/Linux systems keep getting more and more Red Hat trash stuffed into them.
T 1611002852 18<29vZS1_2>It's terrible and needs to go in the other direction.
T 1611003039 18<28techrights-bot>SPAMnil (Swapnil Bhartiya) now doing puff pieces for and with #microsoft employees. #muktware site became the opposite of what it used to be, promoting #ProprietarySoftware and #monopoly ...
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T 1611003288 18<28techrights-bot>#grammarly is a #keylogger disguised as a feature to be seen as legal. #surveillance #espionage
T 1611003325 18<28techrights-bot>Audiocasts/Shows: #Blender 2.91, #Server Security, Linux in the Ham Shack and More • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146617 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1611003325 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Blender 2.91, Server Security, Linux in the Ham Shack and More | Tux Machines
T 1611003370 18<28MinceR>(cat) https://ircz.de/p/20122442
T 1611003371 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5123508)
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T 1611003601 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
T 1611003602 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
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T 1611003973 18<28techrights-bot>Devices: Xtra-PC, #Arduino and #InventorCodingKit • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146619 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
T 1611003974 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Devices: Xtra-PC, Arduino and Inventor Coding Kit | Tux Machines
T 1611004202 18<29vZS1_2>schestowitz__: You can see the term "software freedom" used quite liberally in the Guile project.
T 1611004223 18<29vZS1_2>Example, from "1.3 Guile and the GNU Project" of the Guile Reference manual:
T 1611004224 18<29vZS1_2>"
T 1611004237 18<29vZS1_2> The idea of extensibility is closely related to the GNU project’s
T 1611004240 18<29vZS1_2>primary goal, that of promoting software freedom.
T 1611004240 18<29vZS1_2>"
T 1611004290 18<28techrights-bot>#Programming Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146620 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest
T 1611004293 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
T 1611004414 18<28techrights-bot>Today’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146621 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest
T 1611004418 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines
T 1611004624 18<28techrights-bot>Links 18/1/2021: #GNURadio 3.9, #Wikipedia at 20 • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/wikipedia-at-20/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW
T 1611004625 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Links 18/1/2021: GNU Radio 3.9, Wikipedia at 20 | Techrights
T 1611004644 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: sorry, was distracted
T 1611004649 18<19schestowitz__>posting Daily Links
T 1611004662 18<19schestowitz__>waiting for a 180+mb video to finish uploading
T 1611004678 18<29vZS1_2>Np. Can just read the logs.
T 1611004693 18<19schestowitz__>No need for just the log, I scroll up
T 1611004707 18<19schestowitz__>I see the channels on different screen and get notifications for highlight
T 1611004710 18<28MinceR>https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/17/4eec5ee97ecef044.png
T 1611004720 18<19schestowitz__>but sometimes ignore things for a bit to avoid split attention
T 1611004769 18<19schestowitz__>MinceR: gets the point across
T 1611004773 18<19schestowitz__>it's against human nature
T 1611004783 18<19schestowitz__>even monkeys have alphamales and tribes
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T 1611004918 18<19schestowitz__>MinceR: and notice the smog
T 1611005003 18<28techrights-bot>Today in #Techrights • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146622 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/18/#latest
T 1611005004 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
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T 1611005028 18<19schestowitz__>maybe just fog, looks like winter with not a leaf on any of the trees
T 1611005047 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: BT tries to sell me the BS that the Home Hub is at fault
T 1611005057 18<19schestowitz__>when connection speeds vary so much
T 1611005066 18<19schestowitz__>now it's like 5 times faster than it was all day long
T 1611005070 18<19schestowitz__>must be a miracle
T 1611005086 18<19schestowitz__>maybe the hub just 'starts working' better... magically 5 hours after dark
T 1611005088 18<29vZS1_2>they're just limiting traffic during the day, looks like
T 1611005093 18<19schestowitz__>yup
T 1611005098 18<19schestowitz__>I keep telling them
T 1611005102 18<19schestowitz__>and they don't dent
T 1611005104 18<19schestowitz__>deny
T 1611005115 18<19schestowitz__>I'll keep pressing
T 1611005123 18<19schestowitz__>even if just to make a point
T 1611005133 18<19schestowitz__>my personal blog has like two dozen blog posts about BT
T 1611005142 18<24cybrNaut>ethical comparison of US banks and brokerage firms => https://git.disroot.org/cyberMonk/liberethos_paradigm/us_banks.md https://git.disroot.org/cyberMonk/liberethos_paradigm/us_brokerages.md
T 1611005143 18<19schestowitz__>there are also few in techrights, but it's too personal for TR
T 1611005143 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28- ( status 404 @ https://git.disroot.org/cyberMonk/liberethos_paradigm/us_banks.md )
T 1611005144 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28- ( status 404 @ https://git.disroot.org/cyberMonk/liberethos_paradigm/us_brokerages.md )
T 1611005153 18<19schestowitz__>and I try not to pollute TR with personal issues
T 1611005190 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: I will do the nameserver thing soon
T 1611005204 18<19schestowitz__>in the meantime, maybe you want to experiment with image->text
T 1611005214 18<19schestowitz__>I finally found something close to what I was looking for
T 1611005216 18<24cybrNaut>sorry bad links
T 1611005224 18<19schestowitz__>by sheer serendipity, a release announcement
T 1611005240 18<19schestowitz__>maybe behind vpn?
T 1611005243 18<24cybrNaut>correct links => https://git.disroot.org/cyberMonk/liberethos_paradigm/src/branch/master/us_banks.md https://git.disroot.org/cyberMonk/liberethos_paradigm/src/branch/master/us_brokerages.md
T 1611005245 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606git.disroot.org | cyberMonk/liberethos_paradigm: Information and tools to facilitate ethical consumption of goods and services. - us_banks.md at master - liberethos_paradigm - Gitea: Git with a cup of tea
T 1611005246 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606git.disroot.org | cyberMonk/liberethos_paradigm: Information and tools to facilitate ethical consumption of goods and services. - us_brokerages.md at master - liberethos_paradigm - Gitea: Git with a cup of tea
T 1611005250 18<29vZS1_2>Mucking around with Guile atm.
T 1611005262 18<19schestowitz__>I used it ages ago
T 1611005265 18<19schestowitz__>18 years I think
T 1611005272 18<29vZS1_2>Used what?
T 1611005275 18<19schestowitz__>guile
T 1611005277 18<29vZS1_2>Ah
T 1611005298 18<29vZS1_2>I've got a few ideas for it with my Gentoo install. Just brushing up on the basics.
T 1611005314 18<19schestowitz__>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Guile
T 1611005315 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606en.wikipedia.org | GNU Guile - Wikipedia
T 1611005316 18<19schestowitz__>wow, 1993
T 1611005320 18<29vZS1_2>It is old
T 1611005327 18<19schestowitz__>almost older than Linux
T 1611005336 18<19schestowitz__>it's a good thing that GNU came to help Linux
T 1611005340 18<19schestowitz__>some times in 2993 :-)
T 1611005341 18<29vZS1_2>It's very noob-friendly
T 1611005344 18<19schestowitz__>1993
T 1611005349 18<29vZS1_2>Way more noob-friendly than C
T 1611005366 18<19schestowitz__>rms let old uncle rms start the gnu project alongside linux ;-)
T 1611005373 18<19schestowitz__>I mean lt let...
T 1611005408 18<19schestowitz__>I will do some general purpose articles now
T 1611005410 18<29vZS1_2>I want my Gentoo system to be noob-friendly because I plan on sharing it with GNU/Linux noobs.
T 1611005416 18<19schestowitz__>because I cannot publish EPO, waiting for upload to finish
T 1611005429 18<29vZS1_2>Writing a lot of C code is a great way to scare aware people.
T 1611005432 18<19schestowitz__>gentoo has projects you can work with
T 1611005440 18<19schestowitz__>speak to sabayon, it renamed recently
T 1611005453 18<29vZS1_2>s/aware/away/
T 1611005458 18<19schestowitz__>lyxer or whatever claudio (?) calls himself
T 1611005462 18<19schestowitz__>it's italian
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T 1611005467 18<19schestowitz__>he makes binaries from gentoo
T 1611005471 18<29vZS1_2>No idea. If I find a relevant group, I'll drop in.
T 1611005474 18<19schestowitz__>even some blobs, afaik
T 1611005490 18<19schestowitz__>don't start it from scratch, you redo what others already do
T 1611005496 18<19schestowitz__>and they need more hands
T 1611005500 18<19schestowitz__>he got a decent server
T 1611005523 18<19schestowitz__>https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=sabayon
T 1611005525 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06DistroWatch.com: Sabayon
T 1611005532 18<19schestowitz__>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabayon_Linux
T 1611005532 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606en.wikipedia.org | Sabayon Linux - Wikipedia
T 1611005534 18<19schestowitz__>www.sabayonlinux.org
T 1611005538 18<29vZS1_2>I'm building this for me first so it's going to have to be from scratch.
T 1611005552 18<19schestowitz__>ah, fabio
T 1611005554 18<19schestowitz__>"Fabio Erculiani and Team"
T 1611005593 18<19schestowitz__>wikipedia does not yet mention the rename?
T 1611005595 18<19schestowitz__>or rebrand?
T 1611005597 18<19schestowitz__>odd
T 1611005598 18<19schestowitz__>brb
T 1611005603 18<29vZS1_2>You can't learn something unless you start from scratch
T 1611005612 18<19schestowitz__>you can
T 1611005619 18<29vZS1_2>I disagree
T 1611005622 18<19schestowitz__>by having next to you someone who did it before
T 1611005622 18<29vZS1_2>And not up for debate
T 1611005630 18<19schestowitz__>and using scripts made for it
T 1611005634 18<19schestowitz__>while improving them
T 1611005654 18<19schestowitz__>want from scratch, do LFS
T 1611005664 18<19schestowitz__>and even that might not be low level enough
T 1611005673 18<19schestowitz__>because most of the pieces are already in place
T 1611005676 18<19schestowitz__>like a puzzle
T 1611005685 18<29vZS1_2>Already have systems that are built from kernel. This is more an organised effort, that's why I'm using Gentoo.
T 1611005711 18<29vZS1_2>Those machines don't have any package management. They just have a few programs on them
T 1611005725 18<29vZS1_2>Anyway. Back to work
T 1611005927 18<19schestowitz__>cheers
T 1611005988 18<19schestowitz__>OK, just remember that the "from scratch" argument is endless (and I agree with you) pointless because you could debate some people of particular disciplines making your custom h/w designs and magnets or inodes
T 1611006038 18<19schestowitz__>the reproducible build team with its toolset does interesting and important work
T 1611006043 18<29vZS1_2>That's why you decide which layer of abstraction you start at. From scratch is wrt to that level of abstraction.
T 1611006063 18<29vZS1_2>You don't have the endless descent that way
T 1611006081 18<29vZS1_2>And I've already settled on a level of abstraction (the Gentoo base). I'm not going higher level of abstraction than that.
T 1611006092 18<29vZS1_2>A distro on top of Gentoo is none of my concern
T 1611006095 18<28techrights-bot>Things aren’t rosy at #Intel because the hires aren’t suitable for the job of documenting and/or presenting #GNU / #Linux -centric products (whose target audience is #Freesoftware developers) http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/webops-at-intel/
T 1611006095 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | InteLeaks – Part XIX: Intel’s Web ‘Experts’ Seen as Microsoft Champions Dealing With the Platform Microsoft is Looking to Destroy | Techrights
T 1611006097 18<29vZS1_2>Which is what you recommended
T 1611006101 18<29vZS1_2>Just for clarity ^
T 1611006132 18<19schestowitz__>http://www.sabayonlinux.org/ offline :/
T 1611006142 18<19schestowitz__>maybe due to the name change, I don't know...
T 1611006156 18<29vZS1_2>Should have had some redirection in place, at least.
T 1611006160 18<19schestowitz__>just remember who founded gentoo
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T 1611006165 18<19schestowitz__>and later funtoo
T 1611006170 18<19schestowitz__>he went to work for Microsoft
T 1611006181 18<19schestowitz__>I think this greatly harmed morale in the community
T 1611006186 18<19schestowitz__>they have not been the same since
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T 1611006220 18<29vZS1_2>Doesn't bother me.
T 1611006227 18<19schestowitz__>http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/the-inexorable-rise-of-epo-oral.html?showComment=1611002566513#c6107080106351420184
T 1611006229 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606ipkitten.blogspot.com | The inexorable rise of EPO oral proceedings by video conference - The IPKat
T 1611006229 18<19schestowitz__>"I was just wondering how the public can view those oral proceedings by video that are made open to the public. Does the EPO provide log-in details? "
T 1611006232 18<19schestowitz__>lol
T 1611006242 18<19schestowitz__>my next article will be about it
T 1611006247 18<19schestowitz__>but need to finish the upload first
T 1611006276 18<29vZS1_2>Gentoo doesn't force choices on people
T 1611006277 18<29vZS1_2>Debian does
T 1611006307 18<29vZS1_2>That's why Gentoo clearly states it's a "meta distribution"
T 1611006331 18<29vZS1_2>It's more a framework for building your own GNU/Linux than something controlled by an upstream team.
T 1611006431 18<29vZS1_2>And it's source-code based not binary package based
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T 1611006855 18<28MinceR>https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/17/01b181a0ae73fbc0.jpg
T 1611006936 18<29vZS1_2>Tbh, if I didn't require some driver support, I'd have used an OS like Plan9.
T 1611006986 18<28MinceR>you could still run it in a VM
T 1611007032 18<29vZS1_2>Run what in a VM?
T 1611007125 18<28MinceR>Plan9
T 1611007142 18<29vZS1_2>Ah. I might actually look into that at some point.
T 1611007155 18<29vZS1_2>I've read a lot of the Plan9 documentation and it looks very attractive.
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T 1611007205 18<29vZS1_2>It actually adheres to "everything is a file"
T 1611007248 18<19schestowitz__>cubeman_ uses or used it
T 1611007355 18<28techrights-bot>"I’m keen to get back into the habit of posting Linux release roundups. The last one I wrote was way back in 2019 — so it’s been a while!" https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/01/linux-release-roundup-kdenlive-20-12-1-bleachbit-4-2-0-libreoffice-7-1-rc
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T 1611008090 18<28MinceR>https://explosm.net/comics/449/
T 1611008090 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net)
T 1611008187 18<28MinceR>https://files.catbox.moe/zazfi5.png
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T 1611009380 18<28MinceR>(cat) https://i.imgur.com/kSTXHwx.png
T 1611009616 18<28techrights-bot>Suppressed Facts of the #FreeSoftware Movement and Its Community of Volunteers – Part IV: Stories From the Depths of the Free Software Foundation ( @FSF ) • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/fsf-transparency-2021/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW
T 1611009617 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Suppressed Facts of the Free Software Movement and Its Community of Volunteers – Part IV: Stories From the Depths of the Free Software Foundation (FSF) | Techrights
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T 1611011338 18<28techrights-bot>Sites in Bed With the #EPO and #UPC ’Covering’ the 'News’ Without Mentioning Any of the Overt Abuses • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/sites-in-bed-with-litigants/ •●• #Techrights #EPC #unitarypatent
T 1611011339 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Sites in Bed With the EPO and UPC ‘Covering’ the ‘News’ Without Mentioning Any of the Overt Abuses | Techrights
T 1611011467 18<29vZS1_2>I've found that a lot of the propaganda posts get shafted if they enable comments
T 1611011492 18<29vZS1_2>I saw it in a lot of Financial Times pieces on Assange. Pretty much all the comments were in support of Assange and called out the BS in the piece.
T 1611011531 18<19schestowitz__>yup
T 1611011537 18<19schestowitz__>wait for them to nuke comments
T 1611011547 18<19schestowitz__>or decided they don't like the comments, so "not worth it anymore"
T 1611011578 18<19schestowitz__>they just need to write more "Assange tortures cats" pieces
T 1611011590 18<19schestowitz__>and don't forget "Assange spreads poo" billshit
T 1611011597 18<19schestowitz__>*bullshit
T 1611011616 18<29vZS1_2>And the alternative of censoring comments by deleting all the dissenters
T 1611011646 18<19schestowitz__>they have their own blogs
T 1611011650 18<19schestowitz__>and social control media
T 1611011655 18<19schestowitz__>so that might not work
T 1611011661 18<19schestowitz__>just backfire in some sense
T 1611011678 18<19schestowitz__>encouraging the perception that papers preach, refuse to listen
T 1611011690 18<28MinceR>https://explosm.net/comics/489/
T 1611011690 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net)
T 1611011694 18<29vZS1_2>SCM is suffering a mass exodus right now.
T 1611011715 18<29vZS1_2>They're actually losing users. WhatsApp lost a lot recently.
T 1611011757 18<28techrights-bot>#vmware is a malicious company. So a malicious person will join #intel https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwebster/2021/01/18/gelsinger-waves-farewell--can-vmware-navigate-the-course-ahead/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks and http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/VMware
T 1611011757 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.forbes.com | Gelsinger Waves Farewell – Can VMware Navigate The Course Ahead?
T 1611011758 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights
T 1611011758 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | VMware - Techrights
T 1611011852 18<19schestowitz__>I think I will release the mother lode of Intel now
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T 1611013059 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Hubbub is that Trump has decided not to try to pardon himself (which would only apply to the list of federal crimes anyway, which aren't even the half of it). Self-pardon is dangerous. Nixon asked for legal advice and got some that said it was off the table due to the fact that nobody can sit in judgment of themselves, and taking a pardon does not absolve you of guilt. It implies guilt. So it could hang him in other
T 1611013059 18<19DaemonFC[m]>courtrooms later even if it worked.
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T 1611013557 18<28CrystalMath>well that's true, but there are lunatics in america that believe russia has the power to affect their elections
T 1611013566 18<28CrystalMath>it dates back hundreds of years
T 1611013657 18<19schestowitz__>In Soviet Russia, America affects Russian elections!
T 1611013723 18<28techrights-bot>#MobiusFront '83 from Zachtronics now has online and AI multiplayer | GamingOnLinux ⇨ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/mobius-front-83-from-zachtronics-now-has-online-and-ai-multiplayer •●• #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games #Gaming
T 1611013723 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Möbius Front '83 from Zachtronics now has online and AI multiplayer | GamingOnLinux
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T 1611013785 18<19DaemonFC[m]>After the Janus decision from the Supreme Court, apparently the public unions lost 98% of their "fair share" paying non-members, and 6% of their full members as well.
T 1611013822 18<28techrights-bot>To reduce or alleviate suspicions and a potential of mistrust the #FSF needs to become more transparent and liberate information (such as the real reason Bradley Kuhn left, as noted in the previous part) http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/fsf-transparency-2021/
T 1611013822 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Suppressed Facts of the Free Software Movement and Its Community of Volunteers – Part IV: Stories From the Depths of the Free Software Foundation (FSF) | Techrights
T 1611013833 18<19DaemonFC[m]>The agency fee payer loss was a bit over 170,000 across the country, but the unions demanded state laws requiring employees to be represented by the union whether they wanted it or not.
T 1611013846 18<19DaemonFC[m]>And many don't, because the unions are corrupt and run off with your money.
T 1611013856 18<28techrights-bot>It is rather sad that blogs like #IPKat have turned into proponents of abusive #EPO management and #TeamUPC increasingly resorts to lying using pseudonyms (to avert criticism and accountability) http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/sites-in-bed-with-litigants/
T 1611013857 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Sites in Bed With the EPO and UPC ‘Covering’ the ‘News’ Without Mentioning Any of the Overt Abuses | Techrights
T 1611013877 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Walmart managed to keep them out. The one that was most likely to organize a Walmart already has closed shop grocery stores in Illinois.
T 1611013898 18<19DaemonFC[m]>The workers there don't get anything that the ones at Walmart don't have, except union dues being deducted from their checks.
T 1611013910 18<19DaemonFC[m]>That's not even legal in Indiana, unless you want to be a member of the union.
T 1611013933 18<19DaemonFC[m]>The SEIU and the UFCW are a couple of bad jokes, honestly.
T 1611013965 18<19DaemonFC[m]>You're organizing people who aren't qualified to work anywhere else in a dead economy with a lot of unemployed people. You organize them all, you still have no pull.
T 1611013992 18<19DaemonFC[m]>The company can train scabs in a matter of weeks and be open again and the people who brought in the union don't have jobs anymore.
T 1611014026 18<19DaemonFC[m]>What you need to do is defeat globalism, and we're not getting that from either major party. Sorry, Charlie.
T 1611014112 18<19DaemonFC[m]>USMCA managed to retain everything that caused my dad to lose his career job and float between unemployment checks and contract work since 2000, plus a lot of other bad shit that will ruin our dairy farms and auto industry for the benefit of Mexico and China, while exporting our patents and copyrights for the benefit of foreign drug companies that don't pay their taxes and Hollywood movie studios who submit their
T 1611014112 18<19DaemonFC[m]>scripts to be censored by China for US audiences.
T 1611014140 18<19DaemonFC[m]>*Mexico, Canada, and China rather.
T 1611014209 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Now that our dairy market has lost the protectionism that was keeping it profitable, and subsidized Canadian dairy can flow in, and Chapter 9 farm bankruptcies are sky high in Wisconsin, and bankers who tell them no loans will be approved are being trained to call the cops if they look suicidal, that's Trump's legacy.
T 1611014219 18<19DaemonFC[m]>That's what my dad and mom voted for. NAFTA on Steroids.
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T 1611014316 18<19DaemonFC[m]>This only ends one way for workers. An attack on workers is an attack on every worker. Once they divide and conquer and have people go fuck it I don't make television sets, it gets worse and worse.
T 1611014464 18<19DaemonFC[m]>At least Cheeto Hitler will be gone. I wonder if the deep cleaning contract means they wipe down the bunker too, or if they can just leave it alone because Biden won't be hiding behind a wall and down in a fallout shelter meant to survive a 50 megaton blast from some people waving signs around.
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T 1611014538 18<28techrights-bot>#InteLeaks – Part XX: Redacted (for Names Only) Release of #Intel File About Developer eXperience (DX) Meddling in GNU/Linux • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/intel-dx-file/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
T 1611014539 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | InteLeaks – Part XX: Redacted (for Names Only) Release of Intel File About Developer eXperience (DX) Meddling in GNU/Linux | Techrights
T 1611014539 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights
T 1611014670 18<19DaemonFC[m]>schestowitz__: Matter of hours, he'll be gone.
T 1611014683 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Biden has days and days of dozens of executive orders planned.
T 1611014720 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I LOL'd at the Alberta government complaining that they put $1.1 billion into Keystone XL, just to have it canceled.
T 1611014724 18<28MinceR>maybe he'll need to hide from a lot of fascists waving guns around instead
T 1611014743 18<19DaemonFC[m]>They started building the Canadian part months before Trump lost the election.
T 1611014743 18<19schestowitz__>yup
T 1611014758 18<19schestowitz__>I see that MinceR's cheeto joke travelled far in this channel...
T 1611014761 18<19DaemonFC[m]>They're desperate. They needed him to win or it meant bankruptcy anyway, for TransCanada.
T 1611014764 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Good. Fuck em.
T 1611014767 18<28MinceR>it's not really mine
T 1611014779 18<28MinceR>i don't think of cheetos enough to come up with such things :)
T 1611014799 18<28MinceR>my approach to this was "DHA Man", but that wasn't nearly as catchy
T 1611014805 18<19DaemonFC[m]>schestowitz__: You'd think you'd wait until after the election results are known to plunk down a bunch of money to build something.
T 1611014836 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Now it's going to be a partial pipeline to nowhere that's sitting there unused for at least 4 more years while the world continues transitioning away from oil.
T 1611014890 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I guess maybe they figure they want to have that part ready in the hopes that the Republicans win in 2024? But that doesn't seem likely. Especially if they run Trump again. If they're smart they'll disqualify him with the impeachment and move on.
T 1611015123 18<28MinceR>https://hugelolcdn.com/i/726537.jpg
T 1611015224 18<19schestowitz__>way to sell an old movie again
T 1611015231 18<19schestowitz__>making the point of redoing it without cheetos
T 1611015257 18<19schestowitz__>and some people will rent it for the principle and by tent I mean stream because it's all nasty DRM now
T 1611015371 18<28CrystalMath>DaemonFC[m]: they don't need to disqualify him, just take some advice from the DNC and bernie him :P
T 1611015438 18<19schestowitz__>"trump bros" would not fly
T 1611015441 18<19schestowitz__>it would only boost them
T 1611015462 18<19schestowitz__>insecure men and their abused wives are into that kind of thing
T 1611015477 18<28CrystalMath>i mean, rig the primaries so someone else wins
T 1611015482 18<28CrystalMath>maybe Ted Cruz
T 1611015503 18<28CrystalMath>it's what democrats did to Bernie
T 1611015506 18<28CrystalMath>twice
T 1611015567 18<28techrights-bot>#intel wiki http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel #intelabuses http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Intel_Crimes_and_Offences #inteleaks http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks More coming soon. Much more.
T 1611015568 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Intel - Techrights
T 1611015568 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Intel Crimes and Offences - Techrights
T 1611015568 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights
T 1611015607 18<19schestowitz__>identity politiics stunt
T 1611015614 18<19schestowitz__>to float a puppet of billionaires
T 1611015628 18<19schestowitz__>put a businessman (bloomberg) perceived to be "liberal"
T 1611015631 18<19schestowitz__>a gay man
T 1611015636 18<19schestowitz__>a texas (beto)
T 1611015640 18<19schestowitz__>some women
T 1611015643 18<25XRevan86>also peaches are orange
T 1611015650 18<19schestowitz__>and then have them all raise money from large corporations
T 1611015664 18<19schestowitz__>at the end they tell their identity group to vote biden instead of themselves
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T 1611015785 18<28techrights-bot>Today (or tonight) we release the first ‘phase’ of #InteLeaks in a sensibly redacted form; coming up next is a surprise from Team #Microsoft http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/intel-dx-file/ #intel
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T 1611015802 18<28CrystalMath>heh, yeah
T 1611015810 18<28CrystalMath>that whole "we endorse Biden"
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T 1611015815 18<28CrystalMath>was like them bowing out the circus
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T 1611015846 18<28CrystalMath>and the other side looked a bit scary... Trump vs. Bill Weld
T 1611015851 18<28CrystalMath>and the result was like...
T 1611015854 18<28CrystalMath>23948239489 vs. 1
T 1611015860 18<28CrystalMath>or something
T 1611015866 18<28CrystalMath>very very one-track
T 1611015882 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I don't think Ted Cruz has a very good shot at it, personally.
T 1611015896 18<19DaemonFC[m]>He did not do well in 2016. He was a very distant second from Trump.
T 1611015911 18<28CrystalMath>it's like Bill Weld only ran so there is someone other than Trump
T 1611015921 18<28CrystalMath>so that it doesn't look absolutely one-sided
T 1611015926 18<28CrystalMath>just 99.99999%
T 1611016234 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Actually, Trump only got 85-90% in states Weld was on the ballot.
T 1611016256 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Then 9% of Republicans in exit polls said they voted for Biden.
T 1611016850 18<28CrystalMath>Bill Weld would be a great president IMO
T 1611016863 18<19schestowitz__>DaemonFC[m]: can you proofread http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/voting-machines-still-proprietary/
T 1611016864 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | The Election Was Not Rigged, But the Nomination Process Was (Undermined to Maintain Control by Oligarchy) | Techrights
T 1611016931 18<19DaemonFC[m]>"controlled by secret code" Which prints out a paper ballot, which is clearly marked, at least in Illinois.
T 1611016952 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Though not in Indiana. There is no paper ballot in Indiana. The machine just says thank you for voting and then that's that.
T 1611016952 18<19schestowitz__>not everywhere
T 1611016959 18<19schestowitz__>yup
T 1611017077 18<19DaemonFC[m]>"bout proprietary voting machine"
T 1611017079 18<19DaemonFC[m]>machines
T 1611017111 18<19DaemonFC[m]>There can't be a good reason for not printing out a physical, human-readable ballot.
T 1611017121 18<19DaemonFC[m]>It certainly would make stealing an election in Indiana easier.
T 1611017151 18<19DaemonFC[m]>"Don't worry, it's all stored on a compact flash card and absolutely nothing will be corrupted by a machine we bought 18 years ago going on the fritz."
T 1611017254 18<19DaemonFC[m]>In Illinois, if it's within a margin, you can request a recount. In Indiana, there's nothing for people to pull out and count. You just get a total on a screen. Is it accurate? Who knows. In cases where there are paper ballots to count, mistakes are found that can add up to 5,000 or more votes in an entire state.
T 1611017283 18<19DaemonFC[m]>That means that elections within that margin are questionable in a state like Indiana, but there's no way to prove what actually happened in a recount.
T 1611017350 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Before we had computers and before we had computers that didn't leave any physical evidence of what happened, recounts changed election results all the time, and they still do in places where the computer leaves a paper trail.
T 1611017365 18<28techrights-bot>The #US #Election Was Not Rigged, But the Nomination Process Was (Undermined to Maintain Control by Oligarchy) • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/voting-machines-still-proprietary/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW
T 1611017410 18<19DaemonFC[m]>"Premier Voting Systems" or whatever Diebold calls itself now (they rebrand like Blackwater and tobacco companies do to get away from their scandals) promised Bush would win Ohio, and then he did.
T 1611017420 18<28MinceR>iirc dominion bought them
T 1611017428 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Isn't a bit openly corrupt to promise results before an election happens when you make the machines that record votes?
T 1611017442 18<19schestowitz__>on Windows
T 1611017448 18<19schestowitz__>so more companies have a stake
T 1611017453 18<28MinceR>neofascists had a field day with that name, ignoring that diebold's machines were laughably insecure for decades and this was well known
T 1611017457 18<19schestowitz__>DaemonFC[m]: STOP SUPPORTING TRUMP!!
T 1611017480 18<19DaemonFC[m]>There have been two quite possibly stolen elections that come to mind in the last 20 years, and George W. Bush was the benefactor of both of them.
T 1611017503 18<19schestowitz__>Bill G lobbies for Bush to win
T 1611017505 18<19DaemonFC[m]>*beneficiary
T 1611017507 18<19DaemonFC[m]>rather
T 1611017509 18<19schestowitz__>and he was the world's wealthiest back then
T 1611017524 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Yeah, he didn't win. They just knocked Florida and Ohio over to him in 2000 then 2004.
T 1611017550 18<19DaemonFC[m]>They have to pretend to let people get revenge, part of me thinks.
T 1611017588 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Oh this guy's a bastard. Here, you win. You're a winner! Oh wait, now this one is doing something terrible too. Nothing changed. Here, have another election.
T 1611017598 18<28MinceR>you're winner!
T 1611017609 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I think Trump's really the only one who promised to change things and then none of the things he changed ended up for the better.
T 1611017627 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Everyone else could have been the last guy on autopilot, just about.
T 1611017672 18<19DaemonFC[m]>When I was having my last cavity filled, in 2007, the dentist said "Oh some kind of health reform is definitely coming.".
T 1611017677 18<19schestowitz__>covid was trump dessert
T 1611017679 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Turned out to be the most industry friendly one possible.
T 1611017680 18<19schestowitz__>how many died today?
T 1611017691 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I don't consider Mondays.
T 1611017700 18<19DaemonFC[m]>The count lags and then ends up higher later in the week.
T 1611017748 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Plus MLK day is a state holiday so many health departments don't report.
T 1611017985 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Pretty bad considering it's Monday and a holiday though.
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T 1611018067 18<19schestowitz__>got mlk?
T 1611018071 18<28MinceR>:>
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T 1611019544 18<28MinceR>got blk? https://noveltystreet.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Blk-Spring-Water-Enriched-with-Fulvic-Acid-Organic-Health-Drink-Weird-Stuff-to-Buy.jpg
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T 1611020439 18<28MinceR>brk(2)!
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T 1611024925 18<29techrights-ipfs>IPFS local node stats TotalIn: 45 GB TotalOut: 21 GB
T 1611024926 18<29techrights-ipfs>New bulletin just generated and added to IPFS with CID:
T 1611024945 18<29techrights-ipfs>QmNtcVici26fjTiG3GS5nXfKQ4cSu6UnwXEBnVmjfwCHZB
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T 1611043264 18<19schestowitz__>https://www.innovationaus.com/end-to-end-encryption-must-be-easy-to-use/
T 1611043267 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06End-to-end encryption must be easy to use - InnovationAus
T 1611043271 18<19schestowitz__>"The shift to remote working raised lots of questions about security. Many of these questions were centred on Zoom. The company claimed its service provided end-to-end encryption (E2EE) for conference communications, but this was soon revealed to not be strictly accurate."
T 1611043353 18<19schestowitz__>"There is plenty of technology available to beef up security, but users often complain that it makes collaboration and communication more difficult, and they tend to avoid using it."
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T 1611043579 18<19schestowitz__>https://fsfe.org/news/2021/news-20210119-01.en.html
T 1611043580 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606fsfe.org | FSFE is hiring a part-time technical expert - FSFE
T 1611043593 18<19schestowitz__>photo of girl here; just don't ask how FSFE mistreats women... https://fsfe.org/news/2021/news-20210119-01.en.html
T 1611043618 18<19schestowitz__>http://techrights.org/2020/12/21/fsfe-women/
T 1611043620 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Court Case: Matthias Kirschner, FSFE Women and Volunteers Face Modern Day Slavery | Techrights
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T 1611045395 18<19schestowitz__>seems like --color-space din99d in chafa improves rendering (but a tad slower), I wonder if we should go beyond 78 chars in width to improve clarity of images in the bulletin. I think some people's terminal would never be wider than this.
T 1611045790 18<19schestowitz__>seems like for 300 chars wide, with just binary image (and characters used like silhouettes) we already get in text as many KBs as the JPEG
T 1611045842 18<19schestowitz__>test: ▏▉
T 1611045849 18<19schestowitz__>those sorts of blocks
T 1611045894 18<19schestowitz__>48 chars wide:
T 1611045896 18<19schestowitz__>▏ ⎼╸▪▪▪╺━ ⎼ ▗▇█████▇▖
T 1611045897 18<19schestowitz__>▏ ⎺ ▐▍⎻▗▆⎻⎻⎺ ████████▉
T 1611045899 18<19schestowitz__>▆▅▅▄▅╼⎽▟▙▄▄▅╸ ▕▀▀▀██▛▀█▛ ━ ▗▃
T 1611045900 18<19schestowitz__>▏▀▟█▊▗█▉▀▀▀⎺ ▗▅▅▆██▙▄▂▂▖ ▀╸▜▛
T 1611045902 18<19schestowitz__>█████▆██▃▃▆▇▎ ██████████▘ ▝█▇▆╸
T 1611045907 18<19schestowitz__>not making senese at all at this resolution
T 1611045909 18<19schestowitz__>from chafa
T 1611045921 18<19schestowitz__>the top left is IBM logo
T 1611045947 18<19schestowitz__>with a soup of unicode we might be able to get better outlines
T 1611045962 18<19schestowitz__>but only the latest release supports those sorts of glyphs
T 1611046080 18<19schestowitz__>https://hpjansson.org/chafa/gallery/
T 1611046081 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606hpjansson.org | Gallery · Chafa: Terminal Graphics for the 21st Century
T 1611046443 18<20Techrights-sec>Yep not a surprise if the amount of 'pixels' is similar.
T 1611046475 18<19schestowitz__>I get much better results with Braille symbols, have changed to that, added --color-space din99d and it looks a tad better now, even at 78 chars across
T 1611046889 18<28techrights-bot>#IRC Proceedings: Monday, January 18, 2021 • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/19/irc-log-180121/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW
T 1611046890 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Monday, January 18, 2021 | Techrights
T 1611046904 18<28techrights-bot>#Patenttrolls of #Microsoft / #Nokia and #Ericsson https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/uk-supreme-court-decisions-in-unwired-2737217/
T 1611046904 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06UK Supreme Court Decisions in Unwired Planet V Huawei and Hauwei V. Conversant | Ladas & Parry LLP - JDSupra
T 1611046914 18<28techrights-bot>A photo of a girl here; just don't ask how FSFE mistreats women... https://fsfe.org/news/2021/news-20210119-01.en.html see http://techrights.org/2020/12/21/fsfe-women/
T 1611046915 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606fsfe.org | FSFE is hiring a part-time technical expert - FSFE
T 1611046924 18<28techrights-bot>How to install #Signal Messaging App on latest #Ubuntu https://linuxhint.com/install-signal-messaging-ubuntu/ #gnu #linux
T 1611046924 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606linuxhint.com | How to install Signal Messaging App on latest Ubuntu – Linux Hint
T 1611046933 18<28techrights-bot>#LateNightLinux – Episode 108 https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-108/ #gnu #linux
T 1611046934 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606latenightlinux.com | Late Night Linux – Episode 108 – Late Night Linux
T 1611046948 18<28techrights-bot>#DestinationLinux 209: The Best Product Doesn’t Always Win https://destinationlinux.org/episode-209/ #gnu #linux
T 1611046948 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606destinationlinux.org | 209: The Best Product Doesn't Always Win - Destination Linux
T 1611047008 18<20Techrights-sec>https://unicode-table.com/en/blocks/braille-patterns/
T 1611047008 18<20Techrights-sec>Still pixels, but will braille compress as well as text?
T 1611047008 18<20Techrights-sec>I used the 2x2 graphics for QRcodes a while back.
T 1611047008 18<20Techrights-sec>Had I thought at the time, It might have been more compact
T 1611047009 18<20Techrights-sec>with braille.
T 1611047010 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606unicode-table.com | Braille Patterns - Unicode Character Table
T 1611047039 18<19schestowitz__>For the sorts if images we have braille seems to give better clarity overall, so I've stuck to that..
T 1611047106 18<20Techrights-sec>Ok. Like the old newsprint photos.
T 1611047106 18<20Techrights-sec>Halftone is the old name...
T 1611047144 18<19schestowitz__>The examples here are not clear, they're too blocky: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-01-18.txt
T 1611047189 18<28techrights-bot>#Android Leftovers • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146623 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/19/#latest
T 1611047190 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
T 1611047191 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
T 1611047200 18<28techrights-bot>#Techrights Bulletin for Monday, January 18, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
T 1611047201 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Bulletin Archives
T 1611047213 18<28techrights-bot>#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
T 1611047213 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index
T 1611047239 18<20Techrights-sec>Yes, that is blocky. Is there an easy way to use the 2x4 braille charcaters?
T 1611047298 18<19schestowitz__>tomorrow's bulletin will have them composed solely of Braille symbols. The site has source code for compilation if I want a soup of weird characters... but I'm not sure it would yield something any better.
T 1611047334 18<28techrights-bot>Cheating/driving the left out of the Democratic Party seems like a longstanding tradition and we know who stands to gain from it; moreover, problems remain in the voting process because it’s controlled by secret code of companies like #Microsoft http://techrights.org/2021/01/18/voting-machines-still-proprietary/
T 1611047335 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | The US Election Was Not Rigged, But the Nomination Process Was (Undermined to Maintain Control by Oligarchy) | Techrights
T 1611047343 18<28techrights-bot>"The shift to remote working raised lots of questions about security. Many of these questions were centred on Zoom. The company claimed its service provided end-to-end encryption (E2EE) for conference communications, but this was soon revealed to not be strictly accurate." https://www.innovationaus.com/end-to-end-encryption-must-be-easy-to-use/
T 1611047345 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06End-to-end encryption must be easy to use - InnovationAus
T 1611047375 18<28techrights-bot>Interview: #HowieHawkins discusses #Ecosocialism and the #GreenNewDeal https://medium.com/done-waiting/interview-howie-hawkins-discusses-ecosocialism-and-the-green-new-deal-b2adc5ab0868
T 1611047376 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Interview: Howie Hawkins discusses Ecosocialism and the Green New Deal | by Done Waiting | Done Waiting | Jan, 2021 | Medium
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T 1611050554 18<28vZS1>https://www.classicfm.com/artists/sir-simon-rattle/applies-for-german-citizenship-brexit/
T 1611050555 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.classicfm.com | Conductor Sir Simon Rattle applies for German citizenship, citing ‘absolute... - Classic FM
T 1611050609 18<28vZS1>schestowitz__: Brexit means Brexit. 😂
T 1611050637 18<19schestowitz__>yes, common...
T 1611050640 18<28vZS1>#strongandstable
T 1611050651 18<19schestowitz__>for the EU maybe
T 1611050657 18<19schestowitz__>BT is strong and stable
T 1611050662 18<19schestowitz__>1mb per 6 minutes
T 1611051046 18<28vZS1>https://news.sky.com/story/pamela-anderson-says-donald-trump-is-debating-pardoning-julian-assange-12191650
T 1611051046 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606news.sky.com | Pamela Anderson says Donald Trump is 'debating' pardoning Julian Assange | Ents & Arts News | Sky News
T 1611051111 18<28vZS1>That was an unexpected source
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T 1611051651 18<28techrights-bot>Easily Create a Multiboot USB with Ventoy • 🆃🆄🆇 🅼🅰🅲🅷🅸🅽🅴🆂 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146624 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines |
T 1611051651 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.tuxmachines.org | Easily Create a Multiboot USB with Ventoy | Tux Machines
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T 1611051830 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1: Sky of Anderson?
T 1611051832 18<19schestowitz__>*or
T 1611051838 18<28vZS1>Both
T 1611051852 18<19schestowitz__>BTW, you might want to see https://www.innovationaus.com/end-to-end-encryption-must-be-easy-to-use/
T 1611052044 18<28vZS1>Kleopatra already provides an interface for non-technical users.
T 1611052075 18<19schestowitz__>not heard of it
T 1611052079 18<19schestowitz__>except the person
T 1611052092 18<19schestowitz__>(or myth)
T 1611052143 18<28vZS1>You still need to educate people about proper PGP usage
T 1611052167 18<28vZS1>No amount of UX will reduce the essential complexity involved
T 1611052352 18<28vZS1>And PGP is great in theory but most machines are already horribly compromised
T 1611052373 18<28vZS1>So the fact that you use PGP doesn't really mean anything, in that case.
T 1611052786 18<19schestowitz__>I agree
T 1611052789 18<19schestowitz__>brb, recording
T 1611052953 18<28vZS1>Btw, I cracked up while reading yesterday's Intel leaks. They really are hiring chimps
T 1611053118 18<28vZS1>Using sudo(1) while logged in as root
T 1611053123 18<28vZS1>Comedy gold
T 1611053126 18<28vZS1>Lol
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T 1611055181 18<19schestowitz__>oh wait
T 1611055192 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1: today's video will crack you up more
T 1611055219 18<19schestowitz__>I've just finished recording it and listening to the whole thing just to ensure no faux pas got in
T 1611055233 18<19schestowitz__>in the past I didn't even review or re-listen
T 1611055247 18<19schestowitz__>but sometimes the sounds gets distorted for like a second, not sure why...
T 1611055258 18<19schestowitz__>today's part is about "clown chimps"
T 1611055291 18<19schestowitz__>InteLeaks – Part XXI: Intel Seeking Advice From a Bunch of Clowns (Harbor 'Research')
T 1611055313 18<19schestowitz__>work in progress because it'll take at least half a day to upload and when the engineers comes over it'll break
T 1611055330 18<19schestowitz__>will like have to upload all over again
T 1611055339 18<19schestowitz__>the scheduled windows is 1pm to 6pm
T 1611055349 18<19schestowitz__>I hope he comes later so the upload can finish
T 1611055377 18<19schestowitz__>usually they "run some tests" (i.e. disconnect all your machines) before they physically arrive
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T 1611057931 18<19schestowitz__>x https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=no&u=https://www.cw.no/artikkel/debatt/proprietaer-apen-kildekode-knus-myten
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T 1611057932 18<19schestowitz__># further attacks on software freedom, by shills
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T 1611058740 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1: better source: https://www.mintpressnews.com/pamela-anderson-leads-left-right-coalition-pushing-trump-to-pardon-assange/274473/
T 1611058741 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606www.mintpressnews.com | Pamela Anderson Leads Diverse Left-Right Coalition Pushing Trump to Pardon Assange
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T 1611058913 18<28vZS1>Ty
T 1611058913 18<19schestowitz__>lurkers' comment:
T 1611058915 18<19schestowitz__>http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-180121.html#tJan%2018%2001:19:03
T 1611058915 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Monday, January 18, 2021
T 1611058916 18<19schestowitz__># xbox was only ever an investment as a testbed for DRM
T 1611058918 18<19schestowitz__># the minecraft purchase was to prevent a generation growing up gaming on GNU/Linux
T 1611058923 21<schestowitz__>21vZS1: psydroid kingoffrance ^
T 1611059022 18<29techrights-ipfs> ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▅▅▇▄▅▅▆▇▇▅▄▅▇▅▅▆▆▆▅▅▆▆▅▅▇▆▆▅▅▇▆▆▅ avg(k/sec) 30.58 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▄▅▂▃▃▃▂▃▂▄▂▃▃▄▂▄▂▃▄▂▃▃▂▃▃▂▄▃▃▄▂▃▂▃▄▃▂▃ avg(k/sec) 12.21 ⟲
T 1611059123 18<28vZS1>Bit late for that. Plenty of GNU/Linux systems running Minecraft
T 1611059135 18<28vZS1>The game and the server
T 1611059168 18<28vZS1>I used to host a sever for some people. The Minecraft Java edition
T 1611059185 18<26psydroid>schestowitz_, that much has been clear for a few years now, but interestingly enough it didn't have the desired effect as my nephew has an Android phone and a Chromebook now
T 1611059208 18<26psydroid>I will give one of the laptops I have here and that he uses whenever he comes here to him to run GNU/Linux after an SSD upgrade
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T 1611059245 18<28vZS1>You can use OpenJDK on GNU/Linux but you need Oracle to run Java on Windows
T 1611059257 18<22inky>people, the educational institution i work for is using gsuite, and so i need to open their email which is gmail from personal hw and home network. i wonder how am i giving google less information, if i use website, or if i use thunderbird or other mail client.
T 1611059260 18<26psydroid>and as vZS1 says, it's already too late
T 1611059296 18<22inky>website i would open in a dedicated mozilla container
T 1611059296 18<19schestowitz__>for Intel also
T 1611059305 18<19schestowitz__>I really want this video up there already
T 1611059309 18<19schestowitz__>it's about a new document
T 1611059328 18<19schestowitz__>Intel thinks Microsoft can salvage it?!
T 1611059330 18<19schestowitz__>and in devices?
T 1611059362 18<19schestowitz__>Mozilla is basically finished
T 1611059369 18<19schestowitz__>they sacked some key technical people
T 1611059372 18<19schestowitz__>like gecko devs
T 1611059388 18<19schestowitz__>they'll just bleed market share to death
T 1611059395 18<28vZS1>Minecraft is a great example of how DRM doesn't work. People reverse-engineered the compiled code to construct a decompiler, in order to mod the game
T 1611059399 18<19schestowitz__>and then blame "bad actors"
T 1611059429 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1: what is its business model?
T 1611059435 18<19schestowitz__>is minecraft something you pay to use?
T 1611059446 18<28vZS1>It's a one time purchase
T 1611059451 18<19schestowitz__>I never understood why Microsoft paid so much for garbage that looks like 1990s game
T 1611059473 18<19schestowitz__>I'd rather play CounterStrike or WarCraft
T 1611059475 18<28vZS1>It's basically digital Lego with a physics engine
T 1611059486 18<28vZS1>Different kind of game
T 1611059487 18<26psydroid>Minecraft is a Trojan horse
T 1611059489 18<19schestowitz__>why not Second Life?
T 1611059500 18<26psydroid>that's its business model
T 1611059521 18<26psydroid>also Roblox refuses to support GNU/Linux
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T 1611059546 18<26psydroid>I wonder what happened behind the scenes there, it won't be pretty
T 1611059583 18<28vZS1>I don't think there's anything inherently bad about Minecraft. They don't force you to install spyware. You can run the server in an isolated environment as well. It doesn't cry for root privileges
T 1611059591 18<22inky>schestowitz__, i've read they closed the servo team, did not know they also closed gecko team.
T 1611059631 18<28vZS1>Minecraft is a great example of a have successful because of people being able to modify the code
T 1611059671 18<28vZS1>The Mojang people realised that the modders keep the game alive
T 1611059683 18<19schestowitz__>doom
T 1611059715 18<28vZS1>s/have/hood/
T 1611059729 18<28vZS1>Scratch that
T 1611059756 18<28vZS1>s/have/game
T 1611059783 18<26psydroid>I let my cousins kids play Minetest on my old phones instead and they didn't even notice the difference
T 1611059806 18<26psydroid>I'm not in the loop when it comes to Minecraft, though
T 1611059811 18<28vZS1>Yeah. There are plenty of Minecraft clones that work well
T 1611059828 18<28vZS1>It's not a complicated game to program
T 1611059874 18<28vZS1>The most complex mods all come from the community
T 1611059903 18<28vZS1>I don't do modding but I'm "the server guy" for a few groups.
T 1611059943 18<19schestowitz__>better to add mod to freesw
T 1611059949 18<19schestowitz__>not the company that attacks freesw
T 1611059997 18<28vZS1>Most of the community didn't like the Microsoft acquisition
T 1611060000 18<26psydroid>hence why I promote only Minetest
T 1611060026 18<26psydroid>which is also written in C++, so you get better performance too
T 1611060063 18<28vZS1>I think it's slow because of just legacy code
T 1611060070 18<19schestowitz__>there are other freesw clones or alt
T 1611060071 18<28vZS1>That was never optimised
T 1611060074 18<19schestowitz__>but lesser known ones
T 1611060101 18<28vZS1>There are games written entirely in Lua much more performant
T 1611060255 18<26psydroid>so my take on it is that Mindcraft should have been shot down by a community that really cared about modding years ago
T 1611060290 18<26psydroid>why build your mods on a shoddy foundation when you can have a truly free base?
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T 1611060791 18<22inky>people, let me repeat, what do you think, if i have to use gmail for work, which option exposes me to gmail less - mail client or the browser website? app i won't use, of course, and the website is isolated in mozilla container.
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T 1611060951 18<26psydroid>I'm not sure it really matters, but I would say a mail client
T 1611061273 18<26psydroid>https://opensource.com/alternatives/minecraft
T 1611061274 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0610 free open source Minecraft-style games and game engines | Opensource.com
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T 1611066295 18<28vZS1>psydroid: good point
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T 1611067522 18<25XRevan86>vZS1: "You can use OpenJDK on GNU/Linux but you need Oracle to run Java on Windows" – Oracle JDK is dead, Windows folk should use AdoptOpenJDK.
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T 1611067879 31<kingoffrance>30well i dont follow games at all, but i imagine the "ideal" situation is streaming video over a network, from a proprietary server and protocol, and subscriptions, and games are totally unplayable when the cloud goes down
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T 1611067899 31<kingoffrance>30"ideal" as in user has zero control
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T 1611068110 18<26psydroid>oiaohm posted some articles about gaming last year
T 1611068136 18<26psydroid>I think we are increasingly going to be fine with free software games
T 1611068186 18<26psydroid>as the cost of developing proprietary games is going through the ceiling and the roof
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T 1611068329 18<28MinceR>that "ideal" solution is going to make arena FPS-es unplayably laggy so i guess they'll attempt to eliminate those :>
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T 1611070154 31<kingoffrance>30my relatives house: bluray player, ethernet or wifi tv: ethernet or wifi dvr: ethernet or wifi most of them have usb too (play video on flash stick). i dont think thats end of the world, but like if you want to stream something from online, you really only need tv or dvr i think, and not both; i would disable all the others, ethernet maybe. now add an xbox to that. they seemingly have apps now too.
T 1611070163 31<kingoffrance>30not the end of the world, but i see a pattern there...
T 1611070172 31<kingoffrance>30at some point they might not even work without internet
T 1611070213 31<kingoffrance>30its gonna be you have 4 cell phone devices, all with their own walled garden apps
T 1611070218 18<28vZS1>That's the end goal. Every device is just a UI with laughable hardware.
T 1611070235 18<28vZS1>Remote terminal
T 1611070251 18<28vZS1>That's all you get, Jack.
T 1611070269 31<kingoffrance>30and when company goes under, servers gone, not even that
T 1611070273 18<28vZS1>Yep
T 1611070299 18<28vZS1>Mainframe has kicked the bucket. Sorry about that.
T 1611070368 31<kingoffrance>30and you pair with your phone so you dont need a remote. again, doesnt bother me, but at what point will that be mandatory?
T 1611070378 31<kingoffrance>30"everyone has one"
T 1611070391 31<kingoffrance>30they'll try it at some point
T 1611070506 18<28vZS1>They already do it for public services. "Apps" for gov procedures that the government neither owns nor controls.
T 1611070535 31<kingoffrance>30i suppose "general computing device" they dont want, but they eventually get "apps" for some "interoperability" (even if all walled garden-ish talking to other walled garden)
T 1611070544 31<kingoffrance>30yeah, twitter too
T 1611070548 31<kingoffrance>30they have a book for gov
T 1611070558 31<kingoffrance>30talks about "emotional" content
T 1611070573 31<kingoffrance>30for more effective messages lol just strange to see a company telling gov how to do that
T 1611070603 18<28vZS1>It's because they lobby their chums in the cabinet for those deals. It's corruption.
T 1611070603 31<kingoffrance>30not that they dont have pr people, but strange to see it so open
T 1611070607 18<28MinceR>https://hugelolcdn.com/i/726515.jpg
T 1611070640 18<28vZS1>Those "apps" all are paid for from public purse.
T 1611070659 18<19schestowitz__>on new router, not sure if it can be configured to allow incoming SSH, will check later for more configs, as vZS1 warned...
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T 1611070728 31<kingoffrance>30i very much think publically-funded stuff needs to be public. not just code. laws copyrighted that you have to purchase is no "law" at all.
T 1611070739 31<kingoffrance>30well i mean law is code i guess too, but its more than just apps
T 1611070743 18<28vZS1>They even ask for a scan of passport on the be "NHS app". Not controlled by government.
T 1611070758 18<28vZS1>Laughable authentication. It's a strategy to get passport images for free
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T 1611070847 18<28vZS1>I threw up a very big commotion with the local surgery. They finally redirected to a web page that doesn't require log in. We're talking about national healthcare here. I threatened to expose them.
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T 1611070882 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I got an email saying my Ubisoft account had been accessed from Albania.
T 1611070911 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I didn't even remember I had one. I think I created one years ago for a free game or something. I logged in and scrambled the password.
T 1611070933 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Several months ago, someone broke into my Spotify account, but it was a free account. I scrambled that.
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T 1611071324 18<25XRevan86>https://youtu.be/ipAnwilMncI whopping one and a half hours
T 1611071325 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Дворец для Путина. История самой большой взятки - YouTube
T 1611071380 18<25XRevan86>(Putin's palace. History of the world's largest bribe, with subtitles)
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T 1611071599 18<28techrights-bot>Relearning how to reconfigure the home network (many devices), now with a new hub... let's hope this puts an end to our 15-day IPS ordeal...
T 1611071622 18*19DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/pRDlutYuPSLbRjCbAoPngZNF/message.txt >
T 1611071629 18<19DaemonFC[m]>(I posted that elsewhere.)
T 1611071660 18<19schestowitz__>seems like the new "smart" hub cannot allow me to choose: 1) open wifi and 2) which computer to redirect incoming ssh port (22) to.
T 1611071721 18<19DaemonFC[m]>It's also almost impossible to automatically scrape these sites for backups. The US federal government has been "complying" with the Presidential Records Act by having someone copy and paste things out of Twitter into the National Archives. This is horrible.
T 1611071731 18<19schestowitz__>But I could, instead, pass files outwards. Main issue is, what if I'm on holiday and want to access my home network? Will need to study what's going on with those new "smart" things... which are actually more dumb and restrictive
T 1611071742 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Where it does comply, anyway. Trump destroys a lot of evidence.
T 1611071798 18<19DaemonFC[m]>schestowitz__: There are actually some forums that are either still up or are backed up by the internet archive where I said some things 20 years ago and they're still there.
T 1611071809 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Twitter is less robust than that, but nobody cares.
T 1611071876 18<19DaemonFC[m]>In some cases, I was alerted that things that old are still around because I get an email that someone replied to something I posted in 2001.
T 1611071898 18<28MinceR>(cat) https://i.imgur.com/Hs6B6on.jpg
T 1611071941 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I replied to someone saying "You do realize I posted that 19 years ago....".
T 1611071956 18<19schestowitz__>MinceR: can you do me a big favour?
T 1611071970 18<28MinceR>¯\_(ツ)_/¯
T 1611071980 18<19schestowitz__>what format for IRC do you use? The old one?
T 1611071985 18<19schestowitz__>for logs I mean
T 1611072003 18<19schestowitz__>obviously I lost some things and on the server side the format is raw and messy
T 1611072015 18<20Techrights-sec>Is it OpenWRT-based?
T 1611072019 18<19schestowitz__>No
T 1611072028 18<28MinceR>some irssi format with a lot of control codes
T 1611072038 18<28MinceR>a while ago i wrote a script to strip them out, but i lost it
T 1611072075 18<28MinceR>i think it uses irssi-specific color codes
T 1611072077 18<19schestowitz__>can you pls pls pls check if #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell had anything in them in the past 3 hours except the #boycottnovell-social updates that I posted?
T 1611072117 18<19schestowitz__>MinceR: if it's only for this channel that I lost updates, I can pull them from TR server side and tidy them up a bit manually
T 1611072119 18<19schestowitz__>for this channel
T 1611072126 18<28MinceR>schestowitz__: they did not have anything other than that
T 1611072134 18<19schestowitz__>does anyone here use xchat by any chance?
T 1611072146 18<19schestowitz__>MinceR: thank you :-D a relief
T 1611072159 18<19schestowitz__>MinceR: I am taking longer than expected to restore everything
T 1611072162 18<28MinceR>np
T 1611072175 18<19schestowitz__>turns out a rapi rebooted without a screen plugged in might need rebooting
T 1611072190 18<19schestowitz__>DaemonFC[m]: what IRC client do you use?
T 1611072221 18<19schestowitz__>I want our 13-year IRC logging streak to remain perfect, if you use xchat type logs, then they're compatible with what we use
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T 1611072259 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Element now.
T 1611072277 18<19DaemonFC[m]>It provides persistence to IRC so it logs even when I'm not here and my laptop is not on.
T 1611072316 18<29vZS1_2>I'm going to switch to "ii", from KIRC, once I'm done with my migration.
T 1611072322 18<29vZS1_2>Should make automation way easier.
T 1611072335 18<19DaemonFC[m]>For most of it, I was using either XChat or HexChat (after the original author lost interest). Fedora has a bad habit of doing things like keeping around a currently maintained fork and the dead original program as it piles up CVEs. They did that with XChat.
T 1611072392 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I think you can still use xmms but I can't figure out why you would. It had a few plug-ins for some oddball formats that nobody ever used much.
T 1611072594 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: good idea
T 1611072612 18<19schestowitz__>anyone here on xchat?
T 1611072678 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I told mom they fired two of Mandy's co-workers that were annoying him by playing on their iPhones and letting him do all the work. The last straw was they were caught stealing groceries.
T 1611072699 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Her response was about what I figured. "And they're the ones chanting give us fifteen dollars an hour.".
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T 1611072767 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I told her, "Well, I don't think it'll be a bad thing. It'll make them clean house of people they aren't getting any work out of anyway. Regardless, once they catch you stealing you're banned from ever working at Walmart again, whether they press charges or not".
T 1611072834 18<19DaemonFC[m]>It's wasn't like, you know, they were starving and pulled a Jean Valjean to steal a loaf of bread. It was soft drinks and stuff while they were playing on their iPhones.
T 1611072979 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I'm not sure that RMS understands economics, really. But he is right that we have to do something even with the fuck-ups (not his words, but). Nobody rightly knows what that is.
T 1611073056 18<19DaemonFC[m]>From a pure efficiency standpoint, you raise the minimum wage, you get more selective about your workers. You only hire ones that produce because you have to pay them so much. What happens to the people who are now impractical to hire? Well, formerly they were getting a free lunch off the productive workers in their shop. Now they're a bigger problem for all of society, in a murky sense. It's about whose problem do
T 1611073056 18<19DaemonFC[m]>you want them to be.
T 1611073118 18<19DaemonFC[m]>At some point you're just passing out free shit to prevent people from rioting, which seems to be where we've been all along with Medicaid, food stamps, and home heating assistance.
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T 1611073247 18<19DaemonFC[m]>That's why abortion would never be made illegal. I told mom that's why it'll never be illegal. "You think the crime's bad now. What would happen if 48 million people suddenly appeared that we had to do something about? We know what happens. That's why you're scared to go to the Philippines. That some troubled young men are going to bash a bottle and hold you up with it.".
T 1611073311 18<19DaemonFC[m]>schestowitz__: She was one of the folks telling me there would be a Coronavirus baby boom.
T 1611073332 18<19DaemonFC[m]>So I snapped a picture of people picking the condoms clean at Walmart and said, "Yeah maybe not.".
T 1611073421 18<29techrights-ipfs> ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▃▅▄▅▆▅▅▇▅▆▇▄▆▆▆▅▆▃▄▇▅▅▆▆▆▄▆▅▆▅▄▅ avg(k/sec) 27.48 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▂▁▃▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▄▄▂▂▂▂▂▃▂▂▂▃▃ avg(k/sec) 7.58 ⟲
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T 1611074000 18<29vZS1_2>Then you have nutjobs like the Polish government outlawing abortion for pretty much everyone.
T 1611074014 18<29vZS1_2>Cuz muh Catholicism.
T 1611074090 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: I found the option for no firewall and port forwarding
T 1611074098 18<19schestowitz__>I will send you ip for the pi
T 1611074101 18<19schestowitz__>to test access
T 1611074118 18<29vZS1_2>testing now
T 1611074123 18<19schestowitz__>cheers!
T 1611074148 18<19schestowitz__>ipfs is up and running again just fine, after a reboot to get the external screen working (had to do network configs)
T 1611074161 18<29vZS1_2>The bot is stupid but extremely robust.
T 1611074173 18<19DaemonFC[m]><vZS1_2 "Cuz muh Catholicism."> It's pretty much the Catholics ruining the Philippines too, but they have worse (if not as popular). ISIS Muslims, Iglesia ni Cristo....
T 1611074213 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Poverty-stricken countries get weird and hateful religions. They thrive on low levels of literacy and high levels of resentment.
T 1611074232 18<19DaemonFC[m]>That's exactly how Nation of Islam grows in the Chicago ghettos.
T 1611074268 18<29vZS1_2>schestowitz__: SSH working.
T 1611074275 18<19DaemonFC[m]>The Catholics didn't want people in Europe to be able to read the bible for themselves. If they had their way, the dark ages would never have ended.
T 1611074301 18<29vZS1_2>schestowitz__: if you could set up IPNS for the Rpi's IP address, that'd be great. :P
T 1611074315 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: yay \0/
T 1611074318 18<19DaemonFC[m]>If you can read, you'd be considered extremely educated by the standards of just a few hundred years ago.
T 1611074320 18<29vZS1_2>Right now I track the address via post-it. Not a complaint but would just make life a bit easier.
T 1611074327 18<19schestowitz__>vZS1_2: yes, next on the list
T 1611074334 18<19schestowitz__>I tweaked chafa a bit
T 1611074348 18<19schestowitz__>after that, as I am off work till Saturday, I will do dns
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T 1611074485 18<19schestowitz__>[15:37] <vZS1> Mainframe has kicked the bucket. Sorry about that.
T 1611074487 18<19schestowitz__>Clown
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T 1611074489 18<19schestowitz__>it's coming bacj
T 1611074493 18<19schestowitz__>buy minutes
T 1611074495 18<19schestowitz__>or seconds
T 1611074501 18<19schestowitz__>or function call quotient
T 1611074523 18<19DaemonFC[m]>I suppose the irony is that I learned to read at a Catholic school. My parents weren't Catholic but they didn't want me in public school, so they put me there. Didn't fit in. Did all kinds of things to get myself expelled. It took quite a while. They were extremely patient considering what I was doing.
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T 1611074592 18<29vZS1_2>DaemonFC[m]: Pope Benedict is also a very intelligent person so the Catholic church has been regaining its influence. Read the book "God's Bankers" to see how he saved their entire operation.
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T 1611074699 18<19DaemonFC[m]>They needed a rebranding. Unfortunately, they got one that was in line with what the Stasi laid out for East Germany, which Putin put into effect in Russia.
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T 1611074744 18<29vZS1_2>Who knew electing a Nazi as pope was a bad idea.
T 1611074830 18<19DaemonFC[m]>https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/us/capitol-riots-speech-hate-extremist-first-amendment/index.html
T 1611074831 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-06Violence at Capitol and beyond reignites debate over America's defense of extremist speech - CNN
T 1611074838 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Well, this is disconcerting.
T 1611074850 18<19DaemonFC[m]>"questions emerge about unrestrained free expression, long championed by First Amendment theorists as a benefit to society, no matter how ugly and hateful"
T 1611074893 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Questions emerge about whether we should allow people to speak. -CNN
T 1611074917 18<19DaemonFC[m]>As if you need a permit. It's the first amendment to the bill of rights!
T 1611074920 18<29vZS1_2>"unrestrained free expression". Nice spin. It's not "free", if it's restrained.
T 1611074947 18<29vZS1_2>Can already see which line CNN is towing. Bunch of chimps.
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T 1611075189 31<kingoffrance>30im on xchat right now, sorry missed the msgs
T 1611075221 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Unemployment rate skyrockets. Permanently bankrupt small businesses everywhere with no jobs for people to return to. "Congratulations! You are being rescued! Please do not resist!"
T 1611075226 31<kingoffrance>30the IPFS graphs are fine
T 1611075279 21<schestowitz__>21kingoffrance: will you be able to send me over email the IRC logs for this afternoon?
T 1611075315 31<kingoffrance>30i dont keep logs, but i can send you scrollback sure
T 1611075342 18<19schestowitz__>do you not have under .xchat or .chat2 in your home directory a log directory?
T 1611075344 18<28CrystalMath>DaemonFC[m]: this is the crap you voted for
T 1611075348 18<19schestowitz__>those are typically on by default
T 1611075362 18<28CrystalMath>granted, your other choice was also crap
T 1611075364 31<kingoffrance>30yes it should have that, i thought there was some further level of "logs"
T 1611075366 18<28CrystalMath>but it was different crap
T 1611075369 31<kingoffrance>30i will pastebin one sec
T 1611075379 18<19schestowitz__>cheers
T 1611075379 31<kingoffrance>30or will that kill formatting?
T 1611075385 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Yes, just because it's the only option doesn't mean it's a good thing.
T 1611075386 18<19schestowitz__>it's the format we need
T 1611075394 21<vZS1_2>21kingoffrance: I recommend BitTorrent or IPFS for sharing files. :D
T 1611075396 21<schestowitz__>21kingoffrance: if you get that from the log file, it'll have timestamps
T 1611075406 18<28CrystalMath>DaemonFC[m]: idk, i would have voted for Trump, i think he'd be easier to deal with
T 1611075409 18<19schestowitz__>hexchat and xchat-gnome have similar paths
T 1611075411 18<19DaemonFC[m]>The Russians understand this I'd imagine.
T 1611075420 18<28CrystalMath>especially since the house would have remained democratic
T 1611075431 18<28techrights-bot>#InteLeaks – Part XXI: Intel Seeking Advice From a Bunch of Clowns (Harbor ’Research’) • 𝓣𝓮𝓬𝓱𝓻𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/01/19/harbor-research-recommendations/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
T 1611075432 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | InteLeaks – Part XXI: Intel Seeking Advice From a Bunch of Clowns (Harbor ‘Research’) | Techrights
T 1611075432 28-29TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights28-0606techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights
T 1611075433 18<19DaemonFC[m]>They kept having nuclear accidents and then asking or ordering people to fix and exposed reactor.
T 1611075436 18<28MinceR>(no audio) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/726431.mp4
T 1611075440 18<29vZS1_2>That way, you don't need to worry about software ruining the data in a file.
T 1611075464 18<19schestowitz__>~/.xchat2/xchatlogs$ ls | grep FreeNode-#techrights.log
T 1611075469 18<19schestowitz__>FreeNode-#techrights.log
T 1611075471 31<kingoffrance>30yeah i wouldnt normally use xchat im on a live cd thing
T 1611075492 18<19schestowitz__>see if you have files in that path: ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs
T 1611075503 18<19schestowitz__>the past 5 hours of logs is all I need
T 1611075511 18<19schestowitz__>to maintain perfect record of logs, since 2008
T 1611075516 31<kingoffrance>30you'll have to filter that :)
T 1611075531 18<19DaemonFC[m]>In the case of K-19 and Chernobyl, the disasters were ultimately entirely avoidable. Egregiously so.
T 1611075543 18<19DaemonFC[m]>It highlighted the incompetence of the people in charge.
T 1611075554 18<19DaemonFC[m]>No respect for what they were dealing with.
T 1611075584 18<19DaemonFC[m]>Just as Trump went golfing and other Republicans provided cover for his "It's just a flu." story.

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