06.06.07

Any Meat to That Fruit? (Updated)

Posted in Deals, Deception, GNU/Linux, Intellectual Monopoly, Interoperability, Marketing, Microsoft, Novell, Patent Covenant, Patents, SLES/SLED, Virtualisation at 2:29 pm by Shane Coyle

Kevan Barney posted an update on Novell’s PR blog the other day touting an available SLES VHD file for Microsoft’s Virtual Server as "More fruit from Novell’s collaboration with Microsoft":

More fruit from Novell’s collaboration with Microsoft … Novell has made available SUSE Linux Enterprise Server on Microsoft’s Virtual Hard Drive (VHD). The VHD image file contains SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 Service Pack 1 with most available packages already installed. With this image, folks can run SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 SP1 on their Microsoft Virtual Server 2005 R2 and experience Linux easily and risk free. Check it out.

So, I was a bit intrigued – after all, virtualization cooperation (and requisite patent licensing) is one of the areas of collaboration publicized in the Microvell deal – as Stafford Masie said – "Yes, there is a competitive angle there, yes we’re coming at VMware yes yes yes we are".

So, I asked – what about this was made possible by the Microvell deal, and I took the opportunity to link here to an article regarding how Novell has licensed certain Microsoft patents in order to build a binary bridge for Microsoft Windows to run on (SUSE) Linux. My implied question is whether a license is somehow required to implement virtualization in Microsoft products, but anyhow.

What I received was an explanation regarding hypervisor vs non-hypervisor solutions and some gobbledygook about "The SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 VHD enables customers using Microsoft Virtual Server to easily check out SLES10." but still – no answer to my (real) question – what, exactly, about this is “fruit” of the Microsoft collaboration? What made this impossible before the deal, is there a technical improvement – or is it licensing related after all?

We’ll be waiting for Kevan to clear this up, I have a feeling that there is absolutely nothing to do with the collaboration with Microsoft here, but rather was just a vain attempt to credit the deal for a coincidental occurence. We’ll see

# shane coyle Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
June 6th, 2007 at 1:09 pm

Thanks, I know that really – I was making a point, but anyhow – what, exactly, about this is “fruit” of the Microsoft collaboration?

What made this impossible before the deal, is there a technical improvement – or is it licensing related?

Update: Here is the latest…

# Kevan Barney Says:
June 6th, 2007 at 4:09 pm

Shane,

It’s fruit from the collaboration between Novell and Microsoft because before we began collaborating, it simply didn’t exist. Now we’ve worked together to make it happen.
——-
# shane coyle Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
June 6th, 2007 at 7:11 pm

So, then this is the fruit of a wide ranging collaboration and licensing agreement with EMC/VMware?

Share in other sites/networks: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.
  • Reddit
  • email

This post is also available in Gemini over at:

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2007/06/06/any-meat-to-that-fruit/

If you liked this post, consider subscribing to the RSS feed or join us now at the IRC channels.

Pages that cross-reference this one

What Else is New


  1. Video: “Unjust Computing Clamps Down” by Richard Stallman

    12 days ago the FSF uploaded the video above, in which current threats to software freedom are explained by the FSF's founder



  2. FSF Web Site Now Lists the Seven Voting Members, Including Alexandre Oliva, Former Acting FSF President

    The FSF is now in good and reliable hands, which we're told are all supportive of the decision to bring back the FSF's founder to the Board; Oliva remains involved as a voting member



  3. The EPO's War on Justice and Assault on the Law -- Part 11: The Rapporteur Who Once Was Vice-President

    EPO‘s former Vice-President of DG3 will be the person to decide on the EPO’s (mis)conduct



  4. [Meme] Captured EPO

    Put the EPO back in the hands of people who do all the work and actually understand the real goals of a patent office



  5. An Urgent Need to Fix the EPO, Which is Becoming Rogue at Every Level (Even the 'Legal' Level)

    Helpless examiners are being put in a grave dilemma: violate the EPC or lose the job; it's meanwhile clear that internal appeals, including referrals to the Boards of Appeal, are also hopeless because these courts or tribunals obey tyrants, not the EPC, and moreover they cover up past abuses of the tyrants



  6. IRC Proceedings: Monday, May 17, 2021

    IRC logs for Monday, May 17, 2021



  7. 6,700 Signatures in Support of Richard Stallman's Return to the FSF's Board

    6,700 signatures will be secured any day now (maybe later today); we thought the graph is worth replotting again, even if only to remind people how badly the defamatory hate letter has backfired



  8. [Meme] The Real Gates Scandal is About Connections to Sex Trafficking (Epstein), Not Infidelity

    Some media is still trying to shift attention (some of the very same media that misdirected focus to Richard Stallman when a Gates-Epstein scandal unfolded at MIT), but people aren't gullible enough



  9. Links 17/5/2021: New GeckoLinux and Kdenlive 21.04.1

    Links for the day



  10. Richard Stallman Refers to Intel's Management Engine (ME) -- or a Back Door -- as 'Master', and the Processor Intel Lets Us Use as 'Slave'

    “The president and founder of the Free Software Foundation will speak about pressing issues in free software today, and will present the winners of the 2018 Free Software Awards,” says the summary (this was 3 years ago, i.e. before the purge of language, with a prominent role played by Intel)



  11. Links 17/5/2021: NetBSD 9.2 and Early Look at Bodhi Linux 6.0.0

    Links for the day



  12. Calle Josefsson as Living Proof That Attacking the Causes You Once Proclaimed to Stand for is Very Profitable

    Some thoughts on the situation of the Boards of Appeal in Haar; they're led by someone who receives a huge salary (a four- or five-fold increase) in exchange for an epic sellout and abandonment of principles; as a de facto legal slinger or imposter/poser he has already done incredible damage on several levels



  13. The EPO's War on Justice and Assault on the Law -- Part 10: A Faustian Pact?

    Benoît Battistelli‘s rubber-stamping judge from Sweden saw his salary growing four- or five-fold and he has meanwhile lowered his public profile, fearing that people will see what he sold his soul for



  14. EPO Staff Representatives Not Amused to See an Office That Steals From Staff and Even From Pensioners

    The heist continues; the EPO isn't just a milking cow of Germany but also of EPO officials who keep the 'lid' or the 'cover' on this whole financial instrument, which would enrage member states if they truly understood what's going on



  15. [Meme] Virtual Prisons for Virtual Hearings (Haarings)

    Today’s EPO has a truly twisted notion of the “rule of law”



  16. President of the Boards of Appeal, the Star of the Haar Show

    It’s best in the metal version; burn in Hell, Lesley Gore



  17. Right To Repair: When You Don't Own What You Buy (and Cannot Even Repair It Legally)

    The second part of preliminary background regarding the Right To Repair; our associate who extracted the videos from YouTube says that both are relevant to “Freedom 0″ (as per the FSF’s definition of Free software)



  18. Right To Repair: What It's About and How That Relates to Software

    A short (less than one minute) video that offers some background or sheds light on the intersection between Software Freedom and the Right To Repair



  19. Brand as Distraction From the Core Issues Surrounding the Right To Repair

    Excerpt of a video from Odysee, in which an important point is explained regarding a very actual and relevant case, more so given a recent ruling that indirectly impacts software freedom, mostly in (but not limited to) the United States



  20. Virtual 'Courts' Aren't Courts and Aren't Suitable Substitutes, Either

    The cheapening of the concept of justice, even as the pandemic that serves to justify that cheapening is gradually being brought under control, is the real issue that should be debated in Haar (or from private homes, probably somewhere around Haar); whether it's compulsory or not ought to be a side question



  21. IRC Proceedings: Sunday, May 16, 2021

    IRC logs for Sunday, May 16, 2021



  22. Links 17/5/2021: Linux 5.13 RC2 and a Lot About Patents

    Links for the day



  23. (All-Time) Archive of Techrights Videos Contains About 1,000 Videos, All Listed in One Place Now

    We're improving access to old material in the site and right now the focus is ways to improve discovery of old video/multimedia files



  24. Haar Song

    The Office in Munich is overseen by “a municipality near Munich,” according to Wikipedia (not inside Munich, so that in itself is a violation of the EPC)



  25. The EPO's War on Justice and Assault on the Law -- Part 9: Squeezing Out the Lifeblood of Democracy?

    The lack of public discourse at the EPO (where tyrants like Benoît Battistelli and António Campinos make up the rules and then have them rubber-stamped by kangaroo courts) helps explain an atrocious policy and moral abyss, which recently led to acceptance of European software patents and mass surveillance disguised as “access to justice”



  26. Luke Smith on Why Free Software Matters and 'Open Source' is Meaningless

    A video just released by a popular YouTube channel



  27. Links 16/5/2021: ExTiX 21.5, Drumstick Multiplatform MIDI File Player Refresh

    Links for the day



  28. EPO.org is a Really Awful Source of Information

    The site that bears a .org suffix is actually more like a private corporation lying about itself in order to save face and attract more money -- or in other words funds that will be squandered and stolen by corrupt administrators



  29. IBM Has Changed a Lot Since 2018, and Not for the Better

    IBM isn't that much of an ally of GNU/Linux as a community-led or community-centric operating system; IBM is in it all just for IBM and we need to treat IBM accordingly



  30. [Meme] Criticising IBM is Racist and Intolerant

    Systemd is becoming untouchable and its critics are framed as "toxic" or "trolls", no matter the facts and irrespective of the technical substance of their complaints


RSS 64x64RSS Feed: subscribe to the RSS feed for regular updates

Home iconSite Wiki: You can improve this site by helping the extension of the site's content

Home iconSite Home: Background about the site and some key features in the front page

Chat iconIRC Channel: Come and chat with us in real time

Recent Posts