Bonum Certa Men Certa

Mozilla Allows Facebook to Sabotage Messenger Live Video in Firefox for Three Years, Then Takes a Swipe at Me for Calling Them Out

Guest post by Ryan, reprinted with permission from the original

Today in Firefox sucks…



Years ago, I filed a bug that asked them to do a web compatibility intervention (just lie about the user agent) because Facebook deliberately crippled Firefox so that you couldn’t use Facebook Messenger video and voice calling, even though it was fully compatible, and then stuck out a “Get Chrome” banner for three years.



Literally the only thing you had to do to make it work again was install User Agent Switcher, and then give it a recent Chrome user agent, and tell it to use that UA override for all Facebook domains.



Mozilla let the bug go unanswered for so long that Facebook eventually fixed it themselves two years later. THREE YEARS of allowing Facebook to openly sabotage Firefox and RECOMMEND THEIR COMPETITOR!



Then when I made a comment about this on the bug report, about how it was unbelievable that they just ignore problems like this on major websites, and let their competitor get free advertising, “Dennis Schubert” came in and hid it and made a passive-aggressive remark about me being “unhelpful”.



Get that? A user was concerned about a problem with Firefox, and then Mozilla dismisses them, rudely, and says that they don’t care if the product works or not.



Okay, I won’t bother trying to use your crummy browser as anything other than a backup again, much less file a bug report.



It’s falling apart anyway (currently, the latest ESR can’t even build due to an unsatisfiable requirement on Debian 11, for no damned good reason), and it’s obvious nobody at Mozilla cares.



When you allow people to break your software and link to Google Chrome’s download site (so that people give up and use the even bigger NSA backdoor into their digital life), that’s why you lost 50 million users in your last three years. And unless you’re just stupid, you’d know that. Enjoy the paychecks all the way to the bankruptcy filing.



Bonus: I talked to Nathan Lineback of ToastyTech (who has been an avid promoter of Firefox over the years). Here’s what he said in his reply email.






I wrote:



Hi, I noticed your rants about Microsoft Edge spewing ads all over the Windows desktop.



IE Channel Band rides again. Windows 10/11 really are awful.



I’m glad I switched to Debian.



The problem? Firefox has become so rarely used these days that they’re milking their few remaining users by shoving in all sorts of ads. I grit my teeth over the web DRM nonsense, even though it made Firefox proprietary software and….well, meant DRM had won and the open web had officially lost.



But when I opened up Firefox 93 (from the Flatpak provided by Mozilla) and there was this Suggest adware/spyware/keylogger, all sorts of sponsored bookmark ads, and “sponsored story” crap from “Pocket”, I knew that it was finally over. 



I’ve been using GNOME Web and Vivaldi more often because I simply cannot stand the thought of opening Firefox and I don’t know who at Mozilla thought that it was okay to do this. 



Even Vivaldi has one place where you click to make the Widevine DRM go away, and other than some default bookmarks to delete and changing the search engine to startpage, it leaves me alone after that. 



The Sync feature even remembers I didn’t want their bookmarks and clears them for me in new installs. Firefox has a GUI setting for the DRM and like half a dozen about:config things to make it stop yelling about turning it on, and then you have to go through the entire gauntlet to turn off the ad and spyware. No thanks. Perhaps it’s time to say that Firefox was supposed to destroy them, and instead it became them.



Nathan Lineback replied:



Yea, I’ve been inches away from nuking my “firefox is good” pages.



I’ve been sticking with a “New Moon” port for Windows XP, but lots of
sites are breaking things for no good reason.



I remember when one of the advantages was that Firefox was available for
almost every OS out there. Crap like DRM and all of this compiling
scripts to assembly makes porting that much harder.



It really hurts because I used to actively promote Firefox. I’ve still
got a bunch of stickers and stuff that the Mozilla folks sent me because
I participated in their SpreadFirefox event for Firefox 3.



I get so tired of not having control over technology I use. And even
more tired of the attitude that I should just put up with it all like
some kind of cow.



Anyway, thanks for visiting my site.



— Sent from Microsoft Windows 95

Recent Techrights' Posts

How to Tackle Corruption Effectively and Gradually
In my personal, humble experience
European Patent Office (EPO) Series: A Tale of Two Antónios
"Campaign for the Re-Appointment of the President"
 
What Efforts to Cancel Richard Stallman Ought to Teach Us About the Media, Including Very Large British Publishers
Richard Stallman is like a modern-age Alfred Dreyfus
After Threats to Greenland Northern Europe Seems to be Moving Away From Microsoft Windows Even Faster
The facts on the ground are, more people/businesses/institutions "get the message"
Claim of 500+ IBM Red Hat Layoffs With Termination Next Month
IBM is doing great... at hiding internal affairs
Slop Did Not Rewire Democracy, It's a Giant Flop
we already see slop giants accepting they'll never make money
The Register MS Embeds in Articles "SPONSORED LINKS" That Link to "AI" Ponzi Scheme/Scam
The circular financing giants are allocating budget for the spam, as do the banks (lenders)
Many Countries Divest From Microsoft
new numbers at statCounter today
European Patent Office (EPO) Series: A Tale of Two Antónios - On the Campaign Trail in Brussels
Part 1
SEO is an Acronym That Stands for Slop Engine Orientation
The Web changed a lot when Web directories, portals, and then social control media gained popularity
IRC Network OFTC is Shedding Off Servers
Down to 17
Julian Assange's Counsel Jennifer Robinson Has Just Won an Award
Jennifer Robinson is relatively young
Schweizerische Bundesbahnen (Swiss Federal Railways) and Richard Stallman
It seems like RMS is receiving endorsement or at least belated recognition from very high-profile institutions
Almost 30 Years After Rob Malda Made Slashdot It Still Inspires New Implementations
Maybe the issue isn't Slash per se, just the complexity of it (which SoylentNews complained about in the past)
Links 02/06/2026: "The Infosec Phrasebook", 'Perfect Randomness' and "Leaving the Tech World Professionally"
Links for the day
Faking Demand for Slop: Google's Search Prompt Becomes Slop Prompt (Bait, Switch, Fake Usage)
If there is no consent, then it's unsustainable
When You Give People (or Companies) Money to Buy Your Own Products and Then Call It "Revenue"
A lot of modern "economics" don't benefit ordinary people (all they get is high inflation rates); they're devaluing money by faking economic activity
IBM is Self-Detonating, the Cheeto-Infused Rally is Another Con by Don
pump and dump
"Quantum" as the "Next Big" Bubble
disappointing and delivering nothing
Links 02/06/2026: "$1.5 Trillion Defense Budget Benefits Billionaire Cheeto Mussolini Supporters", US "Plans to Criminalize Sleeping Outside"
Links for the day
Gemini Links 02/06/2026: Organising Oneself and Killing Off Distracting "Notifications"
Links for the day
SLAPP Censorship - Part 95 Out of 200: The Growing Risk of Tolerating Men Who Abuse and Physically Assault Women
FOSS should not be a "safe harbour" or "hideout" for criminals
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Monday, June 01, 2026
IRC logs for Monday, June 01, 2026
Rust is a Disaster for Both GNU and Linux, But 'Linux' Foundation (GKH) Keeps Promoting It Despite the Problems
And non-GPL licences
IBM's CEO and his "pump and dump scheme" ("Arvind's lies about quantum")
Don't be misled by Wall Street
Gemini Links 01/06/2026: Xylophone Essay, Ham Radio, and Slop Contaminating USENET/Newsgroups
Links for the day
Links 01/06/2026: Patent Applicant Disclosures Drop After the January 2025 IDS Surcharge, "China Exports Surveillance"
Links for the day
Links 01/06/2026: Irreversible GAFAM Bans and "The Pirate Bay Remains Resilient"
Links for the day
Running and Writing Sites for People, Not Bots (Including Search Engines)
Had those sites spent more time focusing on RSS feeds (not social control media "games") and less on SEO (trying to game search engines), they wouldn't be sobbing now
SBB, the Swiss Railroads, Want to Hear Richard Stallman
Can Dr. Stallman persuade key decision makers to adopt not only "Linux" but also Software Freedom (not the same thing), as he did in South American before? Or like he did in Kerala?
Resumes and Vanity Pages
Wikipedia is fast becoming a glorified marketing company
Trusting Microsoft is Foolish
Mr. Rossmann says they "gaslight customers" in their Web site, but it goes a lot further than this
Techrights in a Nutshell, in Very Generic Terms
"for dummies"
SLAPP Censorship - Part 94 Out of 200: SLAPP by Garrett's Litigation Buddy Started 20 Months Ago, He Has Not Even Put in His Defence Yet!
This is what happens when one deals with incels and misogynists who promote slop and Microsoft
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Sunday, May 31, 2026
IRC logs for Sunday, May 31, 2026
Gemini Links 01/06/2026: Buckingham Palace Garden Party, TUI Annoyances, Lateral Thinking with Withered Technology
Links for the day
Links 31/05/2026: Heat Wave Grips France and Edgar Morin Dies
Links for the day
Gemini Links 31/05/2026: Backup vs. Mirror, Year of the Death of a Euphemism, Slop Makes Only Yet Another (Untested) Calculator
Links for the day
IBM Red Hat Has a Long History or Track Record of Misusing Trademarks to Send Lawyers to Try to Take Down Pages and Web Sites of Critics
Red Hat claims to own words; IBM thinks it owns names
Richard Stallman is Coming Back to Bern to Give a Talk Next Month
another big talk coming up
Gravitating Towards What Your Role in Society May Be (or What You're Truly Good At)
Many IBMers already realise that they spent years if not decades of their lives working on mostly meaningless products/projects
900 Days Later
900 days is a very long time (almost 1,000)
Cybershow Requires Free Software to Record Shows
Cybershow is run by people who understand that without Software Freedom there can be no sovereignty
Losses at Microsoft's GitHub Seem to be Deepening
How many billions of dollars has Microsoft lost by betting on the false prediction that it can somehow "monetise" public code by LLMs?
Links 31/05/2026: Slop 'Code' (Junk) "Increasingly Leads to Production Failures" and "Huge Slop Costs With No Clear Benefits"
Links for the day
European Patent Office Strikes Intensify Tomorrow, Huge Strikes Planned for June, 10,000 Strike Participations Registered
Campinos may well be ousted soon
SLAPP Censorship - Part 93 Out of 200: A Blueprint of Reckless Lawfare in the UK, Waged and Funded by Americans (in Another Continent)
Lawfare powered by slop companies (including Microsoft) from America, targetting British people who consistently oppose slop because it's objectively terrible
Links 31/05/2026: Watershed Moment, Traveller RPG Book Binding, and GUI Annoyances
Links for the day
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Saturday, May 30, 2026
IRC logs for Saturday, May 30, 2026