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Sven Luther, Thomas Bushnell & Debian's September 11 discussion

posted by Roy Schestowitz on Apr 19, 2024

[7 months old]

Reprinted with permission from disguised.work.

Today [sic] is the anniversary of the tragic attacks on the United States, where we remember thousands of civilians who died, especially the emergency services who risked their lives trying to help the victims.

We began to explore Debian's relation with September 11 in 2022.

It is interesting to look at the way people reacted to the crisis in the rest of the world. Many people added comments into multiple threads on the debian-private (leaked) gossip network. Today we will simply look at an exchange between Sven Luther and Thomas Bushnell.

Subject: Re: Comdemn or sympathize?
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:44:50 +0200
From: Sven <luther@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr>
To: Thomas Bushnell, BSG <tb@becket.net>
CC: David Starner <dstarner98@aasaa.ofe.org>, debian-private@lists.debian.org

On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 09:32:09AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Sven <luther@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> writes: > > > Aren't the US the biggest weapon producer and exporters ? > > No. The big country in the free world which is known for selling guns > to terrorists is...FRANCE.
Well, any weapon sold is sold for murder, there is no difference if it is so a US lunatic can slaughter a whole school, a israeli soldier can send missils on civilians or a terrorist can make an attentat, or does it ?
And just because there is a scandal about french weapon dealers to africa right now doesn't make the fact that the 3 biggest weapon industries are US based, and they are bigger by a bg deal than the others.
And they are known to influence the US governement without shame or doubt, like was done in the vietnam and iraqui case, among many others.
Friendly,
Sven Luther

Ironically, the misfits insist that the best way to reduce conflict in the free software community is to assassinate people who ask questions about accountability.

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