Does it feel right?
In a shot across VMware’s bows, Citrix will announce next week that it will be offering free licenses to its full XenServer virtualization program and new partnering with Microsoft to provide system management, Citrix Essentials, for Hyper-V and, in return, Microsoft’s System Center will support XenServer
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Novell already has a history of working with Microsoft on virtualization and, with Intel, was the first to make it possible to run Windows Server on Xen on Linux. Red Hat, though, has just announced that it was partnering with Microsoft on virtualization. Perhaps both of the major Linux distributors will be using some of the products of this new Citrix/Microsoft relationship.
In a nutshell, Citrix will work with Microsoft to provide system management, Citrix Essentials for Hyper-V. Microsoft’s System Center will support XenServer.
Citrix is about to put a world of hurt on its virtualization rival, VMware. Next week, Citrix will be announcing that it will no longer charge for its flagship virtualization program XenServer 5, and its new management program, Citrix Essentials, will support both Microsoft's Hyper-V and XenServer.
Lot's of Novell in the news lately. Was it their birthmonth or something? This reminds me of Microsoft's attack on competitors to destroy conferences etc and drive them towards the Microsoft centric. [That's just what I am reminded of.] Using Red Hat's agreement as marketing material to help drive a stake through vmware a little quicker. I see. And as an added "bonus", we take attention away from the Monopolysoft that is weighing down the industry. Wunderbar.
Giving today's Monopolysoft a free pass dilutes Tiemann's great message. This reminds me of "Shared Source". It appears to want to leave the door open for Monopolysoft to say the right things but do the wrong things yet continue to win contract after contract.
Microsoft is happy to play the "give us time to fix things and later on we'll publish our fixes" game. Not only does this enable them to keep their software ahead of the competition and buy time to make changes to existing software, they can also patent around the changes as much as possible so that if you do discover certain secrets, they can always pull out the patent card (instead of pulling another switcheroo, since a switcheroo is not always practical or desirable). I call this a rat race. We waste time thinking we'll reach the end.
What does "full interop" mean? When Microsoft controls the entire stack, the apps can pass pieces of the puzzle and trigger signals in odd places and cause other far removed behavior to change. Much of this would arguably fall outside the purvue of something like a workgroups protocol (the EU order for full interop), but it would help thwart any third party that tries to build a drop-in replacement.
It might seem strange that interoperability - as unsexy a feature as there ever was - would suddenly become the apple of the marketing departments eye, not least because consumers are increasingly gravitating towards products for which a degree of interoperability is assumed; think Apple’s iPod, iPhone, Mac combination. But then consider that, as I told a few media outlets this week, heterogeneity is the rule of the day. And that interoperability is not.
Far from it.
Such was the criticism I heard of this week’s curiously timed Microsoft / Red Hat interoperability announcement. In case you missed it, the news is essentially this: Windows Server guests are welcome on RHEL, and RHEL guests are welcome on Windows Server. Additionally, technical support will be coordinated.
Red Hat is taking an unusual course of action in its defence against IP Innovation's patent infringement claim. While similar lawsuits are usually carried on quietly and often settled out of court, Red Hat has called on the open source community to help find "prior art." The validity of a patent can be disputed by proving that a patented technology was already in use before the patent was filed (this is called "prior art").
For those who missed it, earlier this month the Open Invention Network, the Software Freedom Law Center and The Linux Foundation launched the Linux Defenders Network, a group that aims to help the community defend itself against patent trolls.
An article on the launch in Network World was picked up on Slashdot, causing some spirited discussion of the best way to tackle the patent problem.
Microsoft said Thursday it had promoted its deputy general counsel of Intellectual Property and Licensing, Horacio Gutierrez, to the rank of corporate vice president. Previously, Gutierrez held the rank of vice president.
Microsoft Promotes Gutierrez to Steer IP Policy, Licensing
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[H]e also has been a proponent of controversial cross-patent licensing agreements that Microsoft has struck with companies as a way to derive revenue from its extensive patent portfolio.
“Is it not trying to coerce Red Hat et al, being the owners of KVM?”Could Red Hat be pressured by Microsoft's Hyper-V SLES exclusivity [1, 2, 3]? Assuming one theory is correct, could this be how/why Red Hat was reluctantly pulled to the negotiations table? It might just be a combination of factors. It's too hard to tell because different sides will embrace different stories, spin, and self justifications that are reassuring. Novell and Microsoft too had their differences ("we agree to disagree").
Either way, the latest news was pushed into OSnews by Red Hat's (Fedora) Rahul, who tells his/their own version of the story.
Jose X says that "it seems we are definitely talking about hypervisors, which I think require OS hooks. I knew there was a hook in there somewhere as mentioned here." Microsoft leverages these and as PJ puts it, "That last part seems open to difficulties, as usual when there is more than one vendor, but if I were Red Hat, I'd be happy to take over support." On the other hand, as Jose points out, "there are alternatives where Linux runs underneath and Microsoft cooperation (or Linux tie-ins to Microsoft) is not required. Regardless of this certification deal, Red Hat is in for fighting against unfair competition."
Among other people who were baffled by the deal we find:
The angle seems to be that Microsoft will use their marketing muscle to encourage the customer to run a Windows Server platform and allow Red Hat as a guest. In other words, Microsoft wants the primary platform to be Microsoft with anything else virtualized. I am surprised to see that Red Hat went along with this, but Red Hat may have seen an opportunity. It also makes Red Hat look a little two-faced, since their reaction to the deal between SUSE and Microsoft was anything but complimentary (as I recall, anyway). At least they did not include IP verbiage in the recent agreement (at least that they reported).
This is one for the "I don't get it" category, which is my reaction to most of these strategic partnership deals--especially ones struck between Linux companies and Microsoft.
Here's my problem with it:
If Microsoft has a customer that is running Linux (Pick any flavor) and Hyper-V, wouldn't they support that customer anyway? They are a customer using Hyper-V after all. The same goes for Red Hat. If someone is a Red Hat customer, would they do the same? I'm not sure that either Microsoft or Red Hat will benefit one bit from this partnership. I hope Red Hat isn't paying any money for this "deal" and, supposedly, they aren't.
Many compare this deal to the one struck between Microsoft and Novell where there was an exchange of money and intellectual property. Industry watchers and critics, myself included, continually throw stones at that deal.
What will hit Novell really hard is the fact that Red Hat has not had to bend over as Novell itself did in 2006; there are no patent clauses in this deal at all, no question of money changing hands.
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Red Hat, on the other hand, has always insisted that interoperability should be based around open standards and that talk about patents is a hurdle.
Red Hat's commercial success, which has been built up after some initial errors in its business strategy, has enabled the company to wait for a deal on reasonable terms, one that could work to its advantage, not one that makes it a pariah within the community.
That's a departure from Microsoft's deal with Novell, the Red Hat rival. The Novell agreement includes a provision in which the companies agreed not to sue each other's customers for patent violations. Many people in the open-source community see that as Novell implicitly endorsing Microsoft's contention that Linux and other open-source programs violate the Redmond company's patents. Novell disputes that viewpoint, but the deal is generally unpopular in the open-source world nonetheless.
Microsoft has made an agreement with Red Hat to collaborate on virtualization interoperability. Unlike the controversial deal between Microsoft and Novell, this one contains no patent pact.
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Shortly after Microsoft and Novell announced their partnership in 2007, Microsoft publicly declared that Linux technologies infringe on hundreds of Microsoft's patents—a claim that has never been substantiated. Microsoft said that it would not negotiate any interoperability pacts with Linux vendors unless they agreed to also sign Novell-style patent indemnification agreements that are hostile to the kind of downstream redistribution that is inherent in the open source development model.
No doubt Red Hat wanted to be sure to clarify that its deal with Microsoft is not the same as the one Microsoft struck with Linux distributor Novell two years ago, which did include exchange of IP and cash. At the time Red Hat executives said they were not interested in striking such a deal. In addition to ensuring interoperability between Novell SUSE Linux and Windows, the Novell deal also indemnified users of Novell's Linux against any claims of patent infringement for any Microsoft patents SUSE Linux might include.
IP is a particularly thorny issue between Microsoft and Red Hat, exacerbated not only by the Novell deal but also by claims made by Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer in May 2007 that Linux violates more than 235 patents Microsoft holds.
In response, Red Hat said its customers are protected by any patent claims by its Open Source Assurance Program, and many Linux proponents called Microsoft's claims an attempt to spread fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD) among customers who purchase open-source software in order to promote its own proprietary software.
O'Grady suggested it was probably Red Hat that lobbied hard against including IP-sharing in the deal to maintain its stance against the Novell deal and Microsoft's patent-infringement claims.
Jay Lyman, an open source analyst at New York City-based 451 Group, said the agreement was "a little light on the details," but appeared to be a win for customers, with greater flexibility and interoperability.
"This is truly coming from customers," Lyman said. "And the agreement is a sign of the times. No one's winning the whole data center anymore. You have to work with others, even your competitors."
A LANDMARK technical support agreement announced overnight between Red Hat and Microsoft is squarely aimed at destabilising virtualisation leader VMware.
InstallFree Bridge Suite 1.8 makes a stronger argument for application virtualization than do products from more well-known vendors such as Microsoft and Novell. InstallFree's tool offers simple management capabilities and doesn't require components to be installed on the server or end-user systems. Still, InstallFree Bridge Suite 1.8 shares the shortcomings of other app virtualization tools.
The clash between those two kinds of programs is nothing new in the computer industry. Microsoft has made claims that Linux violates a number of its patents. Red Hat, for its part, says software patents “generally impede innovation in software development,” though the company does hold some patents.
Monday's news was the clincher on the server side; Red Hat and Microsoft agreed to validate each other's operating system on their respective virtualization hypervisor technology. Once validated by both parties, customers with valid support agreements will receive cooperative technical support. What was really impressive is that Red Hat pulled this off without patent or financial clauses. I believe this deal was inked, simply put, because customers demanded it. It also shows Red Hat has some serious pull, not surprising given their beat-the-street quarter and posture to gain some new ground as a result of poor economic times.
Comments
David Gerard
2009-02-21 14:41:14
We've been working on a virtualisation project at work - turning a rack of sixty assorted x86 boxes running a mix of RHEL, Solaris and Windows into sixty VMs on a couple of blade boxes. VMware was the clear winner. Xen is pleasant enough but not nearly as mature, VirtualBox is ludicrously shoddy rubbish (and Sun is going to have to kick some a*se at Innotek to make it less so). Hyper-V HAHAHAHAHA.
VMware has one important advantage: their stuff works much, much better than the competitors' and isn't onerously expensive. It's eight years old and it really shows.
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2009-02-21 16:38:20
Thanks also for collecting the barage of articles the deal has created, they show all of the ways it's being spun to promote imaginary property and that might be M$'s main goal. Whereas M$ used to keep relatively quiet about their extortion, they are now on the PR offensive. You have covered a few recent "agreements" and I just saw another one elsewhere. 123map has licensed M$ patents on vectors, a standard drawing tech that's been used in maps and CAD for decades. Gutierrez is also being made into a some kind of super star with his own blog and PR blitz. Could he be in line to replace Balmer? The Red Hat deal is being used to spin M$ as "softened" when it comes to patent extortion and free software but promotion of "IP" and Gutierrez show otherwise. Let's not forget this is the guy who said of GNU/Linux,
Marketing is M$'s most important weapon and it all seems focused on proping up software patents as US courts demolish them. It was a lie then and it is a lie now.
Ian
2009-02-21 20:48:49
VMware has one important advantage: their stuff works much, much better than the competitors’ and isn’t onerously expensive. It’s eight years old and it really shows.
From my own experience, VMWare(esx) is far more mature than the other competitors, certainly so with the management tools. Virtual Infrastructure is so much more pleasant to use than command line with vanilla Xen. I've never used Xensource so I'm not sure what offerings they have on the tool front.