IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: January 21st, 2009 – Part 2

Posted in IRC Logs at 5:59 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz


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schestowitz building the public domain < http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/nesson/… > Jan 21 13:17
schestowitz http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/01/20… (Akamai Sees Record Traffic During Inauguration) Jan 21 13:32
schestowitz Windows worm trickery for Vista < http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/tech… > Jan 21 13:39
schestowitz Shock! The MSBBS calls a “computer” “Windows” and “Vista” for a change. Jan 21 13:39
schestowitz http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi… “Mr McKinnon’s legal team have asked the DPP to charge him under UK law, rather than extraditing him to the US.” Jan 21 13:41
schestowitz When will Big Criminals like Carl Icahn be arrested rather than a Perl hacker who was curious but not so harmful? Jan 21 13:42
schestowitz “Cellular-infrastructure manufacturer Ericsson will lay off 5,000 in a bid to cut costs, ahead of the expected reduction in spending from telcos over the next few years.” < http://www.theregister.co.uk/… > Jan 21 13:53
schestowitz Logitech too: The firm will now cut up to 600 jobs, rather than the 525 earlier predicted. < http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/01… > Jan 21 13:54
*schestowitz uses a Logitech mouse. Jan 21 13:54
*MinceR uses logitech mice, too Jan 21 13:56
schestowitz Gratis trap…  Free software is answer to small businesses woes < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/526/… > YAY! Free crack-cocaine. Jan 21 13:57
schestowitz TARP II: Money for Banks, Not Homeowners < http://www.truthout.org/011909A > “But, as is the case with many Washington policies, this money is also going to end up in the bankers’ pockets. The basic deal is simple. More than ten million homeowners are underwater, owing more than the market value of their home. Millions of these homeowners have fallen behind on their mortgages and now face foreclosure.” Jan 21 14:06
schestowitz Yeah… as Beranger says, “The USA is the greatest nation under the sun…” Jan 21 14:07
schestowitz http://www.stallman.org/archives/2008-nov-… ” Obama’s choice for Attorney General supports Bush’s formerly-illegal surveillance. Obama has never said he would try to restore the rights that Bush took away from us. Unless he does this, or tries his best, I will not support him. “ Jan 21 14:08
trmanco Symbol Last Time(ET) Change %Change Volume Jan 21 14:15
trmanco MSFT 18.48  4:00PM -1.23 -6.24% 89891855 Jan 21 14:15
schestowitz So much for Free software from Sun.. cloud lockin.. Sun eyes cloudware position < http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/software/0… > Jan 21 14:15
schestowitz trmanco: the whole market sank Jan 21 14:15
schestowitz http://finance.yahoo.com/intli… Jan 21 14:15
trmanco oh yeah, I haven’t noticed Jan 21 14:16
schestowitz It’s a US-only thing. Jan 21 14:16
schestowitz Obama? Jan 21 14:16
trmanco Not really Jan 21 14:17
trmanco at least 2 portuguese stock went down Jan 21 14:17
trmanco stocks* Jan 21 14:18
schestowitz 2 stocks? Jan 21 14:20
schestowitz How many are there? Jan 21 14:20
schestowitz Maybe they will go up if you enable AcftiveX and press F5 to reload the page :-D Jan 21 14:21
trmanco the stock price of at least two portuguese companies went down too :-P Jan 21 14:21
schestowitz But how many companies are there? Jan 21 14:22
schestowitz *Publicly traded Jan 21 14:22
trmanco don’t know Jan 21 14:22
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schestowitz Reader says: “I guess it just bothers me when the trolls are so eager to attack you that they don’t even bother to read what you wrote.  They just assume bad faith, which makes them ineffective and no better than what they claim you are.  Another example of a troll is G. Michaels.” Jan 21 14:43
schestowitz “Everything he writes rests on the assumption of bad faith and his supposed superiority.  If I weren’t so sickened, I’d laugh.  There are a couple of mitigating factors here.  At least, I didn’t mention the troll to whom I was responding by name and these trolls aren’t FLOSS advocates, which would make the cause look bad by association.” Jan 21 14:43
trmanco http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?si… Jan 21 15:29
schestowitz Haha Jan 21 15:32
schestowitz Solaris->Linux Jan 21 15:32
schestowitz Akamai Jan 21 15:33
trmanco It still runs windows Jan 21 15:33
trmanco According to the [whitehouse.gov] website headers: Jan 21 15:34
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schestowitz http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/21/… Jan 21 15:39
schestowitz Updatesd Jan 21 15:40
trmanco that info I got from digg Jan 21 15:41
trmanco but I can now really confirm that is still runs Windows Jan 21 15:41
trmanco $ w3m -dump_head http://whitehouse.gov Jan 21 15:41
trmanco HTTP/1.0 200 OK Jan 21 15:41
trmanco Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 Jan 21 15:41
trmanco P3P: CP=”NON DSP COR ADM DEV IVA OTPi OUR LEG” Jan 21 15:41
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trmanco Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:44:28 GMT Jan 21 15:42
trmanco Connection: close Jan 21 15:42
schestowitz Thanks. Jan 21 15:42
trmanco np Jan 21 15:42
trmanco I don’t know what happened with netcraft on this one Jan 21 15:42
schestowitz The racists won’t be happy with someone who’s not White in the Whitehouse Jan 21 15:43
trmanco well, I guess Obama is “their boss” now Jan 21 15:43
trmanco so they have to like him, or they can just leave, and continue on living their life as they want with no conflicts Jan 21 15:44
trmanco nuce update :) Jan 21 15:46
trmanco nice* Jan 21 15:46
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schestowitz wb, balzac Jan 21 16:31
balzac Thanks Roy Jan 21 16:37
schestowitz I’m working on a doc you wanna see… Jan 21 16:44
schestowitz I’m actually htmlifying it Jan 21 16:45
schestowitz OK, updated: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/21/c… Jan 21 16:50
schestowitz Reader: “[T]the BayStar deal was one of the stupidest things Microsoft has done, don’t you think?  How could they have possibly believed that it would never be found out, especially when they stiffed Goldfarb and left him holding the bag?  It’s astounding.” Jan 21 16:54
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schestowitz http://digg.com/linux_unix/Is_it_GN… “If you are going to give credit where credit it due the best name would be the “GLX operating system”” Jan 21 17:16
schestowitz “X-For X Windows, what makes having a GUI in “Linux” possible” Jan 21 17:16
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Tallken Link for the day: http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2009/01/… “How cool is that? Scott, being asked by the incoming administration, ON THEIR FIRST DAY IN OFFICE, to discuss the benefits of FOSS and Open Standards for Government use.” Jan 21 17:21
schestowitz Thanks. Jan 21 17:24
schestowitz They asked the wrong person Jan 21 17:24
schestowitz They should have asked Jonathan Schwartz Jan 21 17:24
Tallken better than nothing though Jan 21 17:25
schestowitz Or Silver Lie Jan 21 17:26
Tallken :p Jan 21 17:40
schestowitz I can’t find a pic of Seven. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Bundy Jan 21 17:40
schestowitz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marr… Jan 21 17:41
schestowitz Google Kills Print Ads Program < http://www.pcworld.com/article/158026/goog… > Jan 21 17:54
schestowitz MinceR: how can this be?!? Jan 21 17:54
schestowitz IBM Posts Strong Q4 Profits, No Layoffs Announced < http://www.pcworld.com/article/158015/ibm_posts_s… > MS is up next.. probably a promise to cut workforce Jan 21 17:57
schestowitz Good for YouTube: UK Kids Prefer Computers to TVs < http://www.pcworld.com/article/15801… > Jan 21 17:58
schestowitz “A payment processor responsible for handling about 100 million credit card transactions every month disclosed today that thieves had used malicious software in its network in 2008 to steal an unknown number of credit card numbers.” < http://www.pcworld.com/article/158003/… > Jan 21 18:00
MinceR dunno Jan 21 18:06
schestowitz More evidence of Microsoft as a criminal political movement: http://www.wired.com/techbiz/it/magazine/1… Jan 21 18:07
schestowitz This a dangerous cult that needs to be dismantled, but I doubt Obama is up to the task. Jan 21 18:08
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PetoKraus this is bullshite really Jan 21 18:19
PetoKraus not one sane app Jan 21 18:19
PetoKraus with reasonable periodic table Jan 21 18:20
PetoKraus !!! how am i supposed to work?!? Jan 21 18:20
trmanco microsoft bribed again http://searchengineland.com/microsoft… Jan 21 18:20
trmanco bribes * Jan 21 18:20
schestowitz Computer virus hits fire service < http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glas… > Jan 21 18:23
schestowitz “Strathclyde Fire and Rescue has said its IT network has “come under attack from a computer virus”.” Jan 21 18:23
schestowitz Let house burn down when Mr. Bobby cleans up Registry and reinstalls the O/S. Jan 21 18:23
schestowitz PetoKraus: wine? Jan 21 18:24
schestowitz Although I’m sure there’s stuff you miss. Linux has many good scientific apps Jan 21 18:24
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trmanco http://news.softpedia.com/news/Rumor-M… Jan 21 18:43
trmanco http://news.softpedia.com/news/Open-Sourc… Jan 21 18:44
schestowitz Had Microsoft not “f* killed” everything in industry, maybe there would be trust in AZUNE[sic] Jan 21 18:48
MinceR King Azoun V? Jan 21 18:54
schestowitz No king, usher… Jan 21 18:56
schestowitz “Apple reportedly faces a review by US regulators to ensure investors weren’t misled by the firm’s disclosure regarding boss Steve Jobs’ health problems.” http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/… Jan 21 19:01
trmanco schestowitz, did you do this? -> http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uplo… Jan 21 19:03
trmanco I wish I new Russian Jan 21 19:08
trmanco knew* Jan 21 19:08
trmanco http://spo.cnews.ru/news/top/index.sht… Jan 21 19:08
schestowitz Russian? Jan 21 19:08
trmanco http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2009/0… Jan 21 19:09
schestowitz Oh, old news. Jan 21 19:09
trmanco lets go to googly Jan 21 19:09
trmanco and translate the text Jan 21 19:09
schestowitz I bet the Microsoft Mafia is already ‘lobbying’ the Russian diplomats behind the scenes.. maybe an EDGI Jan 21 19:10
schestowitz The Microsoft Mafia makes the Russian one look like puppies. Jan 21 19:10
schestowitz http://techdirt.com/articles/20… Jan 21 19:10
schestowitz Don Ballmerski wants to “f*kill* Google by corrupting politicians. His wife too put money in Obama’s pocket last month. Jan 21 19:12
trmanco Microsoft to *try* and destroy Google? Jan 21 19:12
trmanco let me laugh Jan 21 19:12
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trmanco they are going to use their stupid *monopolist powers* and get them selves sued again in the EU Jan 21 19:13
schestowitz They bark at the EU commission Jan 21 19:14
schestowitz They smear Neelie for example. Jan 21 19:14
schestowitz Failing that, maybe they’ll send the special forces to ‘liberate’ Europe Jan 21 19:14
trmanco why does AT&T fear Google? Jan 21 19:15
trmanco I don’t get their fear Jan 21 19:15
schestowitz Net control Jan 21 19:16
schestowitz AT&T is presidential scum.. like Haliburton. http://boycottnovell.com/2008/09/0… Jan 21 19:17
trmanco I get it now Jan 21 19:19
trmanco thanks Jan 21 19:19
schestowitz We’ve just made FP of Linux Today again.. Jan 21 19:20
schestowitz The Analysts Cartel series is very popular Jan 21 19:20
schestowitz I have better ones coming up :-) Jan 21 19:21
schestowitz Ralph Novell… http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gVXs9cQnyNw Keeps creeping into YouTube… I track Novell videos.. Jan 21 19:22
schestowitz More MS BS: https://fossbazaar.org/content/lawrence… Jan 21 19:26
schestowitz Wow! Intel boss Otellini warns of first loss in 21 years < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/… >. EVEN sheer crime did not save him. Jan 21 19:27
schestowitz Hollywood, aka AmericanDream(R), feels the pinch too: http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-technology… (Time Warner’s Warner Bros. cuts nearly 800 jobs) Jan 21 19:29
schestowitz “MANDERINS of the Glorious People’s Republic of China are concerned that more adolescents are coming down with an addiction to the World Wide Wibble.” < http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news… > Jan 21 19:30
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jose__ schestowitz, from this morning http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2… Jan 21 19:33
jose__ i’d really like the new white house to do the right thing and push for foss Jan 21 19:34
trmanco http://arstechnica.com/news… Jan 21 19:35
trmanco Microsoft Sells Off Comcast Stake : http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/o… Jan 21 19:38
schestowitz jose__: I hope so Jan 21 19:45
schestowitz Microsoft will be able to come in and twit “we’re open source too” Jan 21 19:45
schestowitz trmanco: thanks, seen it. Jan 21 19:45
schestowitz I wrote about Comcastsoft Jan 21 19:45
jose__ yeah, i’m watching the video (stomach churns) of some msft dev guy talking to foss guys.. see lt frontpage Jan 21 19:46
schestowitz They are throttling some more now, breaking the law Jan 21 19:46
schestowitz jose__: I put it here in IRC a moment before you came Jan 21 19:46
jose__ “interop” is future, everyone has proprietary and foss/mixed; we have sinned in past; … Jan 21 19:46
MinceR so who will quote “open source is an intellectual property destroyer, blah blah blah” for them when they say that? :> Jan 21 19:47
trmanco http://www.istockanalyst.com/art… Jan 21 19:48
jose__ we have sinned.. to forgive is divine.. blah Jan 21 19:48
jose__ one comment reminded me of something… Jan 21 19:50
jose__ only speak good about microsoft.. how? Jan 21 19:50
schestowitz jose__: no worries Jan 21 19:50
jose__ by having speakers that “don’t have information” on wrongdoing details Jan 21 19:50
jose__ no comment Jan 21 19:51
schestowitz I have enough antitrust maaterial to show people what Mcirosoft really is Jan 21 19:51
schestowitz I’m doing a 2006 smoking gun right now Jan 21 19:51
schestowitz These are gangsters Jan 21 19:51
schestowitz Anti-Linux team Jan 21 19:51
schestowitz jose__: calssic that Jan 21 19:51
jose__ why does microsoft bother to put on the guise? Jan 21 19:51
jose__ desperation Jan 21 19:51
schestowitz Like sending non-technical people to OOXML meetups Jan 21 19:51
schestowitz “OOXML sucks…” Jan 21 19:52
jose__ allchin .. scox.. etc, right? Jan 21 19:52
schestowitz MS rep: “I don’t understand… look.. it’s a nice pile of paper, no? Look at the page layout.” Jan 21 19:52
schestowitz jose__: no, something newer Jan 21 19:52
jose__ i wonder if/when/ and how many plants microsoft takes to their foss confrontations (speakers probably don’t know) Jan 21 19:54
jose__ hey, that foss guy thinks this…. and that…. Jan 21 19:55
jose__ actually, people that give microsoft the time of day likely have “job and $$” on their minds Jan 21 19:56
jose__ [obviously i'm generalizing, btw] Jan 21 19:57
schestowitz jose__: wait until the next post Jan 21 20:00
schestowitz I can’t counter their punch bags, aka Straw men Jan 21 20:01
schestowitz They put lackeys like Ramji to avoid having those who know the truth confront the criminals directly. Jan 21 20:01
schestowitz E.g. Gates, Ballmer, Allchin, Sinofsky, Silverberg.. Jan 21 20:01
schestowitz The least *I* (and *we*) can do is show people their crimes Jan 21 20:02
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jose__ roy, btw, that gnome to mono progression graphic was clever Jan 21 20:17
jose__ hope it’s not true though Jan 21 20:17
schestowitz *ping* tessier Jan 21 20:22
schestowitz jose__: it’s not true because of pressure Jan 21 20:22
schestowitz Had there not been awareness, it probably would slip in as a dep Jan 21 20:22
jose__ it’s still clever Jan 21 20:23
schestowitz Thanks. Jan 21 20:23
schestowitz I thought about it last nigth while in IRC Jan 21 20:23
schestowitz You’ll see the log tomorrow if you’re curious Jan 21 20:23
schestowitz jose__: tell me when to post about API patents Jan 21 20:52
jose__ first i’ll write up an intro Jan 21 20:54
jose__ there are some items to cover.. like who am i and why am i writing this Jan 21 20:54
jose__ who can do this.. and mention some ms specifics maybe..including sample of their patents Jan 21 20:54
jose__ also, i may rewrite the other two slightly to add continuity/fluidity among the various parts Jan 21 20:55
jose__ i won’t add much but i do want to add some things Jan 21 20:56
jose__ again: if i don’t get back to you, just link up or post whatever you like Jan 21 20:56
jose__ say.. within a week. Jan 21 20:56
schestowitz You have lots to resue Jan 21 20:57
schestowitz *reuse Jan 21 20:57
schestowitz Thanks. Jan 21 20:57
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balzac_ Hello again Roy Jan 21 21:10
balzac_ In case you didn’t know, I’m Paul Gaskin, you sometimes see my comments on boycottnovell.com Jan 21 21:11
balzac_ I’ve also written a recent editorial on FreeSoftwareMagazine.com, and I also comment and post as Balzac on FSDaily.com Jan 21 21:11
schestowitz http://www.osnews.com/thread?344655 “Barack Obama is a con-artist, much like Miguel De Icaza and the rest of the Novell team, and shouldnt be president. gNewSense is my distro not OpenSellout Linux or Red Nap.” Jan 21 21:11
schestowitz balzac: Oh, I seee……. Jan 21 21:12
schestowitz Yes, I knew you wrote in FSM Jan 21 21:12
balzac_ schestowitz: whose quote is that from OSnews? Jan 21 21:12
schestowitz Follow the links Jan 21 21:12
schestowitz It came up in Google News. Jan 21 21:12
balzac_ I got an error retrieving the story the response was to Jan 21 21:13
balzac_ I just wondered who wrote the original bit about Barack and Miguel Jan 21 21:14
balzac_ BTW, did you see how much the show-cased the Microsoft image processing technology on CNN? Jan 21 21:14
schestowitz Probably some JoeAnonymous Jan 21 21:16
schestowitz I read about that.. the image stuff.. they use it like a football match Jan 21 21:16
schestowitz I didn’t watch the ‘match’ not just because of resentment though; President… brought to you by {company list} , we’ll be back after a word from our sponsor Jan 21 21:17
schestowitz I liked the post I saw somewhere about millions homeless in the US while Mr. Obama throws a $170 million bash. Jan 21 21:17
balzac_ I’m not concerned yet about Obama. I’m just hoping Eric Holder will go after Bush & Cheney on torture and constitutional violations. Jan 21 21:18
balzac_ The only advantage M$ has now is their exclusive relationships with hardware manufacturers. Jan 21 21:19
balzac_ Obama can’t possibly be more friendly to M$ than Bush was. Jan 21 21:19
schestowitz I now remember that it’s you who defended RMS.. http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/po… Jan 21 21:19
schestowitz Who is Obama? Jan 21 21:20
balzac_ yeah, I felt it was important to call out Linus Torvalds on that particularly sneaky attack on RMS> Jan 21 21:20
schestowitz Why is it that people characterse the new govt as one man that the PR industry groomed? Jan 21 21:20
schestowitz Obama is like the stick shift in a car Jan 21 21:20
schestowitz The engine does a lot more, but it’s not visible. Jan 21 21:21
schestowitz I’m going to puke watching Novell news… Jan 21 21:21
schestowitz Missiahcaza is all over with the news of him and his MS buddies ‘saving’ the ‘poor’ Linux users who the “president doesn’t give a c* about” Jan 21 21:22
balzac_ I just don’t care much anymore. I’ll keep pressuring for Bush’s prosecution. I’ll keep pressuring for decriminalization of prostitution, drugs, mandate free software for public institutions, etc. Jan 21 21:25
balzac_ I’m just tired of spinning my wheels, so I’ll throw out my opinions, but nowadays I’m wondering how I can get my slice of the pie (in accordance with my principles and ethics). Jan 21 21:26
balzac_ I’m mean I’m not going to stop sharing my opinions in the public forums, but I’m not going to let it consume me while by bank account is collecting dust and cobwebs. Jan 21 21:27
balzac_ I think that’s whats missing from the GNU scene – ambitious entrepreneurs who want to go forth under a strictly free software approach, not mixed source. Jan 21 21:27
schestowitz But wait.. Jan 21 21:28
schestowitz The way the system is constructed is to reward for obedience. Jan 21 21:28
balzac_ Yeah, but there are ways around it. Jan 21 21:28
schestowitz IOW, those who are tolls are allowed to make a living and a few cheaters mange to become exploiter (it helps when dad, for example, is a well-known Seattle lawyer with Abramoff connection) Jan 21 21:29
balzac_ Roy, with your industry knowledge, you ought to be a very highly compensated consultant in addition to being a free software advocate and M$ whistle-blower. Jan 21 21:29
schestowitz *tolls->tools Jan 21 21:29
schestowitz balzac: I was offered jobs, but that would reduce my output Jan 21 21:29
balzac_ You can do good and do well at the same time. Jan 21 21:29
schestowitz Nice proverb Jan 21 21:30
schestowitz But that implies that doing well means making wealth Jan 21 21:30
balzac_ Right, well I value your work on boycottnovell very highly. Jan 21 21:30
schestowitz I’ll carry on for quite some time Jan 21 21:30
balzac_ I won’t be quitting either Jan 21 21:30
schestowitz There are fallbacks. Shane for example would carry on if I lose steam. Jan 21 21:30
schestowitz I set up a Wiki where others are helping Jan 21 21:31
schestowitz So we can process evidence of crime more rapidly Jan 21 21:31
balzac_ Let me tell you, if you weren’t doing what you do, there’d be a lot more ignorance of Microsoft’s strategy to rip us all off. Jan 21 21:31
schestowitz Watch tomorrow’s dynamite Jan 21 21:31
balzac_ They’re trying to subjugate us all to their new patent taxation scheme. Jan 21 21:31
schestowitz Microsoft.. yes. Jan 21 21:32
balzac_ But I think others should perhaps take up more of the slack of blowing the cover of M$, and you possibly ought to be looking at brokering big software deals. Jan 21 21:32
schestowitz But they tell other stories. Jan 21 21:32
schestowitz “We changed” Jan 21 21:32
schestowitz “Ballmer is just the bad cop” Jan 21 21:33
schestowitz “Gates is charitable” Jan 21 21:33
schestowitz etc etc Jan 21 21:33
schestowitz BTW, since you mention occupation, I’d rather do research, not consulting Jan 21 21:33
schestowitz I didn’t do a PhD to just walk around in a suit and pretend to know stuff. Jan 21 21:33
balzac_ The way I see it, I’m pushing RedHat as opposed to Novell for the enterprise OS. RH enterprise is mixed source, but it’s good to work against Novell and make money on commission for an enterprise RedHat deployment. Jan 21 21:33
balzac_ ok Jan 21 21:34
schestowitz I’m pretty quualified at digesting input and then producing summaries Jan 21 21:34
balzac_ well, you are uniquely qualified for consulting as well as research. Jan 21 21:34
schestowitz Red Hat can be replaces with centos Jan 21 21:34
schestowitz There’s sturation in many industries Jan 21 21:34
balzac_ Yeah but you need that big corporate support backing up the deployment Jan 21 21:34
schestowitz I don’t want to drop names, but some people whom I speak to present themselves as consultant but get very little business Jan 21 21:35
balzac_ The point is to take market-share from Novell and profit from doing it. Jan 21 21:35
schestowitz Same in every sector… waiters, reporters… Jan 21 21:35
balzac_ Microsoft/Novell deserves to fail, and those of us who work to bring that about deserve to benefit from it. Jan 21 21:35
schestowitz The ones gaining from what I do probably include Red Hat or Ubuntu, but I won’t corrupt myself by talking to them Jan 21 21:35
schestowitz Autonomy is better for my credibility Jan 21 21:36
schestowitz Look at PJ-IBM fabrications Jan 21 21:36
balzac_ Well, I’m working as a developer, but I’m not under-selling myself because I think I’m a great consultant for helping the enterprise make the right choices for big software deployments. Jan 21 21:36
balzac_ Well, your credibility is not in doubt among those who know. Jan 21 21:36
balzac_ You’ve presented so many scoops. Jan 21 21:37
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balzac_ I’m not a RedHat guy, per se, but I’m ready to push RedHat at the expense of Novell. Jan 21 21:37
balzac_ Anyway, that’s my two cents for now. Jan 21 21:37
schestowitz Just RHAT? Jan 21 21:37
balzac_ I need to get back to work bro. Jan 21 21:37
schestowitz RHT Jan 21 21:37
balzac_ Ubuntu as well Jan 21 21:37
schestowitz IBM wants to prevent Red Hat from being powerful Jan 21 21:38
balzac_ ultimately, gnewsense is what I’m looking to run for myself Jan 21 21:38
schestowitz IBM is its own pile of rubbish but for other reasons Jan 21 21:38
balzac_ Lack of common sense is the reason Jan 21 21:40
balzac_ That’s why I feel I could make a killing with just a little help from my friends and an angel investor. Jan 21 21:40
schestowitz There’s hope for Change Jan 21 21:41
schestowitz The US, as much as I fear, is going down Jan 21 21:41
schestowitz I have lots of family there, so I’m not anti-America Jan 21 21:41
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schestowitz Their government is an embarrassment though Jan 21 21:41
balzac_ Anyway, I’m taking one step at a time, because with or without the support from any investor, I’m committed to demonstrating the profitability of 100% free software. Jan 21 21:41
schestowitz People in the US are loathed for Cheney’s dreams of grandeur and oil Jan 21 21:41
schestowitz And this has gone on since WW2 really.. occupation and suppression in foreign affairs Jan 21 21:42
schestowitz Issue is…. Jan 21 21:42
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schestowitz If the US goes down, EU will suffer too Jan 21 21:42
schestowitz This leaves China.. Jan 21 21:42
balzac_ roy, there’s definitely trouble ahead, but all I can do for social causes now is to cheer-lead prosecution for Bush and cronies, while focusing on financial success for myself. Jan 21 21:42
schestowitz And China is WORSE Jan 21 21:42
balzac_ This trouble ahead could be very good for free software. Jan 21 21:42
balzac_ Look at the upside of things. Jan 21 21:42
schestowitz balzac: prosecution will be good for the US Jan 21 21:42
schestowitz Like street demonstration vs war Jan 21 21:43
balzac_ Microsoft could be due for a major enron-style accounting collapse ala Enron Jan 21 21:43
schestowitz EU residents will say, “look, Americans don’t actually support the war crimes” Jan 21 21:43
schestowitz Moreover, they manage to get past the media blitz/propaganda, which is HARD Jan 21 21:43
balzac_ the scoops you’ve published on Microsoft’s financial troubles are very juicy. Jan 21 21:43
balzac_ brb Jan 21 21:43
schestowitz ok Jan 21 21:43
schestowitz Re: The Enron thing; I heard from journalists, but they are still too afraid to publish about it (libel risk… and Microsoft is a litigious bully) Jan 21 21:44
schestowitz http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?… “It is well known that MS pays for such things as shelf space and shelf advertising etc. If a company is actually making money to have thousands of units in stock sit on the shelf for a while that will eventually sell then they will do so.” Jan 21 22:08
schestowitz I’m tempted now to post my next smoking gun prematurely Jan 21 22:09
schestowitz http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?l… “Why does he have to belittle people below him. Granted I would not want to be a tester, but I am grateful for the job they do. Linus should take note of Obama and show a little humility Jan 21 22:10
schestowitz Linus gets what he deserves in these comments: http://linuxtoday.com/news_sto… Jan 21 22:11
schestowitz http://apcmag.com/linus_torvalds… ‘ Want to know what happens if you suggest a way to fix Linux that might solve a major difficulty, but also introduce new problems? To quote Linus Torvalds: ” I laugh in your face!”‘ Jan 21 22:11
schestowitz Idiot. First the “masturbating monkeys”, not this…. what is this guy doing? He’s more of a “PR disaster” than some people label RMS… Jan 21 22:12
schestowitz Adding Wbar, Prism, and Gadgets to Ubuntu < http://www.deviceguru.com/adding-wbar-p… > Jan 21 22:12
schestowitz “That quote is bound to bring out the naysayers – and rightfully so since it contradicts McNealy’s “free like a puppy” perspective – but the idea that government institutions could reduce costs by collaborating and building on reference implementations is a more convincing argument.” http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/01/… Jan 21 22:14
schestowitz “free like a puppy…” Jan 21 22:14
trmanco http://www.itworld.com/open-source/61133/… Jan 21 22:14
trmanco uh oh! Jan 21 22:14
schestowitz Eee Jan 21 22:14
schestowitz The author is being silly Jan 21 22:15
schestowitz “Microsoft for the first time is contributing code to an Apache open-source project, continuing the company’s softening of its attitude toward open-source software and the community that supports it.” Jan 21 22:15
schestowitz That’s IDG/IDC Jan 21 22:15
schestowitz They have to play a along with Microsoft ” softening of its attitude toward open-source “ Jan 21 22:15
schestowitz Mind the dash Jan 21 22:15
schestowitz open-source… not Open Source Jan 21 22:15
schestowitz Not Free software Jan 21 22:15
PetoKraus Roy Jan 21 22:25
PetoKraus good post Jan 21 22:25
PetoKraus about the virus at sheffield Jan 21 22:25
PetoKraus it made a nice touch to already pretty funny day Jan 21 22:25
schestowitz Was it funny. Heh. I though it was bound to sound grumpy. Jan 21 22:28
schestowitz Mozilla is harvesting.. Mozilla Collects User Data for Usability Testing < Mozilla Collects User Data for Usability Testing > Jan 21 22:51
schestowitz OOps. URL: http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/01/21/m… Jan 21 22:51
schestowitz http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/… “Microsoft decision to kill its flagship $1bn investment in US cable-TV giant Comcast is a sign of strategic prioritization and financial necessity.” Jan 21 22:57
schestowitz *LOL* “Microsoft software doesn’t get released – it escapes, leaving a trail of destruction behind it.” Jan 21 23:02
schestowitz http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/20/hp-mini-… “Though a Linux OS has been announced, so far all we’ve seen are options for XP and Vista materialize, but we’ll keep our eyes peeled.” Jan 21 23:08
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schestowitz “Kudos to my MP, Martin Linton, who has resigned as PPS to Lord Falconer over the FOI issue. Just received letter from him about expenses.” http://twitter.com/glynmoody/s… Jan 21 23:24
MinceR gn Jan 21 23:24
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schestowitz Wow!! Jan 21 23:38
schestowitz 3 Microsoft Vice Presidents are QUITTING Jan 21 23:39
schestowitz Microsoft is crumbling from the inside. Jan 21 23:39
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schestowitz 550 comments: http://minimsft.blogspot.com/2008/12/no-layoffs-… Jan 21 23:56
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