05.28.10

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MeeGo is Hijacked by the Mono Team

Posted in GNU/Linux, Microsoft, Mono, Novell at 6:31 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

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Summary: Novell/Microsoft influence in MeeGo is threatening Nokia and Intel with software patents tax

A MICROSOFT MVP seems to be confirming what we feared 3 months ago and knew after Lyle warned us yesterday. Here is what Lyle told us an hour ago:

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May 28th, 2010 – 11:08:47-12:21:56

lyle schestowitz: did you see about MeeGo? May 28 11:08
lyle it’s contaminated by MONO :( May 28 11:08
oiaohm How lyle May 28 11:09
lyle it comes with banshee by default May 28 11:09
lyle and comes with mono compiler May 28 11:09
lyle but no gcc May 28 11:09
oiaohm meego 1.0 has gcc in it. May 28 11:10
lyle my copy doesn’t May 28 11:10
lyle I’m using LiveCD May 28 11:10
lyle is that what you are using? May 28 11:10
lyle meego-netbook-ia32-1.0.0.20100524.1.img May 28 11:11
lyle there’s no gcc May 28 11:12
oiaohm That is a 800 meg image ? May 28 11:13
lyle yea May 28 11:13
lyle is there a different one with gcc? May 28 11:13
oiaohm I have development straith out git May 28 11:14
lyle I’m sure I can install it after the fact, but the LiveCD doesn’t have it May 28 11:14
oiaohm What gets me is straight out git does not have mono. May 28 11:15
lyle weird May 28 11:15
oiaohm At all May 28 11:15
lyle seriously, try the LiveCD – you will see MONO May 28 11:16
lyle what media player does meego have in git? May 28 11:16
lyle rhythmbox? May 28 11:16
lyle I think I see my boss May 28 11:17
lyle finally May 28 11:17
lyle yep, that’s him May 28 11:17
lyle what media player does your mego git have oiaohm? May 28 11:18
oiaohm QT based one. May 28 11:18
lyle I wonder what player got pushed aside May 28 11:18
oiaohm As I say wiered. May 28 11:18
lyle did MONO boosters hijack the project at the last minute and force their MONO into meego? May 28 11:20
lyle maybe that explains it May 28 11:20
MinceR are the image and the git repo from the same site? May 28 11:20
oiaohm Yes May 28 11:21
lyle I got it from meego.com May 28 11:21
oiaohm And he is right. May 28 11:21
oiaohm Question now is why. May 28 11:21
lyle btw, just saw this: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/May-27.html May 28 11:22
Techrights Title: Linux for Consumers: MeeGo Updates – Miguel de Icaza .::. Size~: 16.62 KB May 28 11:22
lyle this is worrying May 28 11:22
oiaohm Wound not been pulled in by evolution would it not. May 28 11:22
lyle banshee is MONO too May 28 11:22
lyle btw gotta go, shop opened up – gotta get to work May 28 11:23
lyle would love to find out wtf happened tho May 28 11:23
lyle good luck guys May 28 11:23
*lyle has quit (Quit: Page closed) May 28 11:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft is Not an Open Source Company, It’s a Software Patents Company With Lobbyists http://ur1.ca/040wz #swpats May 28 11:48
Techrights Title: Microsoft is Not an Open Source Company, Its a Software Patents Company With Lobbyists | Techrights .::. Size~: 107.97 KB May 28 11:48
oiaohm Posted question to meego developers over mono.  schestowitz May 28 12:13
schestowitz Hey May 28 12:14
schestowitz I’m working on a post about it May 28 12:14
schestowitz Remember Moblin May 28 12:14
oiaohm banshee included as a sample app cased the include. May 28 12:14
schestowitz OpenSUSE+mono has their grubby hands on it. May 28 12:14
schestowitz Banchee is a big patent trap May 28 12:15
schestowitz More so then others May 28 12:15
oiaohm Mono might magically disappear. May 28 12:15
schestowitz It contains libs that Microsoft /EXPLICITLY/ excluded May 28 12:15
oiaohm Or there might be an agreement with Intel that covers mono. May 28 12:15
schestowitz So we already know that Microsoft uses Banshee as a Trojan May 28 12:15
schestowitz oiaohm: yes, that’s what I reckoned May 28 12:16
oiaohm I want to find out what is there. May 28 12:16
schestowitz Intel must be x-licensing w/ Microsoft already May 28 12:16
schestowitz Same with H-P May 28 12:16
schestowitz But… May 28 12:16
oiaohm Depends on how its licenced. May 28 12:16
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schestowitz Nokia’s Ari said Nokia would defend against Microsoft swpats attack May 28 12:16
oiaohm Novell one suxs for downstream. May 28 12:16
schestowitz So I’m mildly baffled May 28 12:16
schestowitz Mixed msgs May 28 12:16
oiaohm If Intel one is good for downstream. May 28 12:17
oiaohm We might have a mono solution that makes everyone bar Novell happy. May 28 12:17
MinceR oiaohm: how? May 28 12:19
oiaohm If intel has a downstream protection agreement it can be exploited. May 28 12:21

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