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schestowitz__similar to HRCMar 28 00:00
schestowitz__use of private mail for highly sensitive stuffMar 28 00:00
schestowitz__so Bolton said Trump responded by saying outrageous thingsMar 28 00:00
schestowitz__about something elseMar 28 00:00
schestowitz__and the rage that followed distracted from what Ivanka had doneMar 28 00:00
schestowitz__which would otherwise lead to "LOCK HER UP" chantsMar 28 00:00
schestowitz__Cite: Bolton's book (2020)Mar 28 00:02
schestowitz__or 2019, I think 2020Mar 28 00:02
gullfaxi[m]interesting. Trump, as well as many "alt-right" actors in Europe, have been using successfully the same social media tools quite a long time by nowMar 28 00:03
schestowitz__let me check some old mailMar 28 00:03
schestowitz__Richard Stallman wrote on 18/09/2019 06:44:Mar 28 00:05
schestowitz__>   > As a side note, it seems like media tries to shift attention away fromMar 28 00:05
schestowitz__>   > Bill Gates' MIT scandal by talking about you:Mar 28 00:05
schestowitz__> Mar 28 00:05
schestowitz__> It does not surprise me.  Gates has more influence.Mar 28 00:05
schestowitz__> Mar 28 00:05
schestowitz__> I think I will post the Microsoft talk article today or tomorrow.Mar 28 00:05
schestowitz__note to lurkers:Mar 28 00:05
schestowitz__the article he referred to here is the one explaining why he visited MicrosoftMar 28 00:05
schestowitz__after Microsoft had tricked himMar 28 00:05
schestowitz__"invited" himMar 28 00:05
gullfaxi[m]I remember the "outrage" at the time :>Mar 28 00:06
schestowitz__Roy Schestowitz wrote on 09/09/2019 04:15:Mar 28 00:07
schestowitz__>> Meanwhile, I am working on an article to publish.Mar 28 00:08
schestowitz__> This is very good. I look forward to it.Mar 28 00:08
schestowitz__Any progress on that (article about Microsoft visit)?Mar 28 00:08
schestowitz__As a side note, it seems like media tries to shift attention away fromMar 28 00:08
schestowitz__Bill Gates' MIT scandal by talking about you:Mar 28 00:08
schestowitz__http://techrights.org/2019/09/15/media-attention-has-been-shifted/Mar 28 00:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman’s Controversial Views Are Nothing New and They Distract From Bill Gates’ Vastly Worse Role | TechrightsMar 28 00:08
schestowitz__I have in fact just mailed him about itMar 28 00:09
schestowitz__maybe it will remind him of somethingMar 28 00:10
schestowitz__It was "supposed" to be Gates CanceledMar 28 00:10
schestowitz__Like 'Prince' AndrewMar 28 00:10
schestowitz__"stepping down"Mar 28 00:10
schestowitz__(=hiding)Mar 28 00:11
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schestowitz__https://news.itsfoss.com/stallman-supporters-not-giving-up/Mar 28 00:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.itsfoss.com | Organizations Oppose Stallman & FSF but Individual Supports Keep on Pouring in - It's FOSS NewsMar 28 00:33
schestowitz__DDOS attack nowMar 28 00:36
schestowitz__but this has done on for a whiiiileMar 28 00:36
CrystalMathAriadne: would you care to explain why you're shilling for busybox to be written with a permissive license?Mar 28 00:43
CrystalMath*rewrittenMar 28 00:43
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techrights-botTop 10 Razor Blade #GNU #Linux Laptops https://www.fosslinux.com/46038/top-razor-blade-linux-laptops.htmMar 28 00:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslinux.com | Top 10 Razor Blade Linux Laptops | FOSS LinuxMar 28 00:44
techrights-botEmail: A source of stress https://piware.de/post/2021-03-27-inbox-zero-habit/ don't check #email more than once per day, IME...Mar 28 00:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-piware.de | Three months of Inbox Zero · Martin PittMar 28 00:44
techrights-bot#uk Census stupidity, 2021 edition https://www.jwiltshire.org.uk/2021/03/27/census-stupidity-2021-edition/Mar 28 00:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Census stupidity, 2021 edition – jwiltshire.org.ukMar 28 00:44
CrystalMathschestowitz__: i have evidence of your sysadmin now shilling for the linux foundationMar 28 00:44
schestowitz__noMar 28 00:45
schestowitz__Ariadne favours permissive licencesMar 28 00:45
schestowitz__nothing new to meMar 28 00:45
schestowitz__and I'm ok with not agreeing 100% of the timeMar 28 00:46
schestowitz__like I said, nothing newMar 28 00:46
MinceRthere are good reasons to favor permissive licensesMar 28 00:46
techrights-botToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝓣𝓾𝔁 𝓜𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓮𝓼 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149309 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 28 00:46
MinceRespecially since at least one state is too corrupt to uphold copyleftMar 28 00:46
techrights-botGNU #Emacs 27.2 Released! #HowTo Install it in Ubuntu • 𝓣𝓾𝔁 𝓜𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓮𝓼 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149310 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 28 00:46
CrystalMath<Ariadne>  does anybody want to get paid to rewrite busyboxMar 28 00:47
CrystalMath<Ariadne>  (in rust)Mar 28 00:47
CrystalMath<Ariadne>  something about busybox litigationMar 28 00:47
CrystalMath<skarnet>  Ariadne: what interest does the LF have in busybox? aren't they happy with GNU coreutils and util-linux?Mar 28 00:47
CrystalMath<Ariadne>  skarnet: they aren't happy because Alpine isn't happy, and they want Alpine to be happy since Alpine is what they are pushing for container devops buzzword bingoMar 28 00:47
CrystalMath<Ariadne>  basically they are very open to finding budget for improving AlpineMar 28 00:47
CrystalMath<Ariadne>  busybox is, you know, a third rail issueMar 28 00:47
CrystalMath<Ariadne>  with the GPL violations projectMar 28 00:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149309 )Mar 28 00:48
CrystalMath<Ariadne>  so they would like to see it replacedMar 28 00:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149310 )Mar 28 00:48
CrystalMathsorry for the long pasteMar 28 00:48
MinceRwell, i wouldn't want to rewrite anything in rust, regardless of licenseMar 28 00:48
CrystalMathi know, disgustingMar 28 00:48
MinceRlet rust rot in hell, along with mozilla and microsoftMar 28 00:48
CrystalMathi feel like one day i'm gonna be posting to you about Ariadne slaughtering people as a part of a death squad, and you'll say it's fine, we all have disagreementsMar 28 00:49
MinceRwell, that depends on who gets slaughtered and whyMar 28 00:49
CrystalMathno it doesn'tMar 28 00:49
CrystalMathto me it doesn'tMar 28 00:49
CrystalMathmurder is never okayMar 28 00:50
MinceRthere are many people i would slaughter happily so that the rest of us can finally have a free and civilized existenceMar 28 00:50
MinceRkilling in self defense is okayMar 28 00:50
CrystalMathi wouldn't do itMar 28 00:52
CrystalMathi couldn'tMar 28 00:52
techrights-botCall for testing: #Kubernetes 1.21 release candidate https://ubuntu.com//blog/call-for-testing-kubernetes-1-21-release-candidateMar 28 00:53
MinceRwould you rather be enslaved for the rest of your life?Mar 28 00:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Call for testing: Kubernetes 1.21 release candidate | UbuntuMar 28 00:53
techrights-botJust before RMS was 'canceled': Richard Stallman’s Controversial Views Are Nothing New and They Distract From Bill Gates’ Vastly Worse Role • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2019/09/15/media-attention-has-been-shifted/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2019/09/15/media-attention-has-been-shifted/Mar 28 00:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman’s Controversial Views Are Nothing New and They Distract From Bill Gates’ Vastly Worse Role | TechrightsMar 28 00:53
CrystalMathMinceR: no, of course not, i would die insteadMar 28 00:53
techrights-bot"What does the right to be heard means at the EPO, when the chair of the boards puts himself as chair of the EBA whilst he promoted Art 15aRPBA2020." #epo #corruption #crime #injustice http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/03/board-of-appeal-in-t180715-continues.html?showComment=1616832139677#c4263560736381605404 see http://techrights.org/2021/03/25/judges-epo-kangaroo-courts/Mar 28 00:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Board of Appeal in T1807/15 continues with ViCo oral proceedings referral - The IPKatMar 28 00:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Has Become an Institution of Unbridled Crime, Where Judges Exist Only to Approve the Crimes | TechrightsMar 28 00:53
CrystalMathMinceR: if i have the option to kill someone, most likely i can just change the target to myself, which i think is okay by my moralsMar 28 00:53
CrystalMaththat is, suicide is okayMar 28 00:53
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MinceRwhat if they didn't let you die?Mar 28 00:53
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CrystalMathyes but again, if i have the optionMar 28 00:53
CrystalMathotherwise the whole point is mootMar 28 00:54
CrystalMathsince we were talking about killing in self-defense... if i *could* do that, i could also kill myself, and then that's what i'd chooseMar 28 00:54
MinceRi seeMar 28 00:54
MinceRwell, that's one way out of a hellish existenceMar 28 00:54
techrights-botIAM, a megaphone of corrupt #EPO management, omits any mention of EPO #crimes and the collapse of #patent quality (as one might expect) https://www.iam-media.com/continental-shiftsMar 28 00:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | Europe analysis – continental shifts | IAMMar 28 00:54
techrights-botUsing the whole "hey hi" nonsense to cushion #patent maximalists and #litigation profiteers who disregard #science and never contribute to it https://www.worldipreview.com/article/guidance-would-be-incredibly-helpful-a-view-on-uk-aiMar 28 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldipreview.com | ‘Guidance would be incredibly helpful’: a view on UK AIMar 28 00:56
techrights-botThe collapse of #patent quality at the #EPO may mean lots of invalid patents; when people realise those are worthless, less applications will come https://www.theengineer.co.uk/patent-applications-epo-european-patent-office/Mar 28 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theengineer.co.uk | UK files fewer patent applications in Europe | The Engineer The EngineerMar 28 00:56
techrights-botThere's no legality review but a #corruptkangaroo court https://www.worldipreview.com/news/epo-mandatory-video-hearings-to-continue-despite-legality-review-21185 see http://techrights.org/2021/03/25/judges-epo-kangaroo-courts/Mar 28 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldipreview.com | EPO mandatory video hearings to continue despite legality reviewMar 28 00:56
schestowitz__CrystalMath: please let that slideMar 28 00:57
schestowitz__we don't have time for infightingMar 28 00:57
schestowitz__and I'm having enough trouble here with workloadMar 28 00:57
schestowitz__and with DDOSMar 28 00:57
schestowitz__I don't want unnecessary IRC dramaMar 28 00:58
schestowitz__(thanks, please try to be considerate on this matter... we have more urgent things to worry about atm)Mar 28 00:58
techrights-botUpdated #Debian 10: 10.9 released • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149305 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freeswMar 28 00:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149305 )Mar 28 00:58
CrystalMathschestowitz__: alrightMar 28 00:59
techrights-botBest Free #Android Apps: #JuiceSSH – all in one terminal client • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149306 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 28 02:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free Android Apps: JuiceSSH – all in one terminal client | Tux MachinesMar 28 02:00
techrights-bot#IPFire 2.25 - Core Update 155 released [ #SECURITY ADVISORY] • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149307 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 28 02:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IPFire 2.25 - Core Update 155 released [SECURITY ADVISORY] | Tux MachinesMar 28 02:00
techrights-bot#Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149308 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 28 02:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 28 02:00
techrights-bot#KDE Introduces "Quick Settings" Page, Lands More #Wayland Fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149296#comment-28859Mar 28 02:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: all the things | Tux MachinesMar 28 02:01
techrights-bot“If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.” https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/280633-if-you-re-not-careful-the-newspapers-will-have-you-hating #rms #fsf #freesw #freedom #gnuMar 28 02:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.goodreads.com | Quote by Malcolm X: “If you're not careful, the newspapers will have...”Mar 28 02:01
*schestowitz__ gives voice to BifrostBot[m] swaggboiMar 28 02:07
schestowitz__leap hourMar 28 02:07
schestowitz__2amMar 28 02:07
schestowitz__dst is such lunacy..Mar 28 02:07
schestowitz__duplicate hours are the bigger problemMar 28 02:07
techrights-ipfs ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▃▃▄▅▄▃▄▅▄▆▃▄▁▂▂▅▆▇▆▅▄▅▅▁▃▄▃▄▅▄▅▅▅▆▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 19.20 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▃▂▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 12.40▕ swarm size (avg): 158.22  ⟲Mar 28 02:07
MinceRindeedMar 28 02:07
schestowitz__6 months from now...Mar 28 02:08
MinceRand idiots who "standardize" that the RTC should be set to local timeMar 28 02:08
MinceR(intel and microsoft)Mar 28 02:08
schestowitz__didn't knowMar 28 02:10
schestowitz__anyway, nothing at work broke so farMar 28 02:10
schestowitz__we'll see Mar 28 02:10
schestowitz__I hand over to a colleague nowMar 28 02:11
MinceRit would break in the autumnMar 28 02:11
techrights-botWe should all know... who was supposed to be "cancelled" in 2019 http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/police-report-bill-gates/Mar 28 02:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mansion of Pedophilia – Part II: Dr. Stallman Defamed in the Media One Day After Request Made for King County Sheriff’s Office to Divulge Information About Pedophilia in Home of Bill Gates | TechrightsMar 28 02:11
MinceRat least when running windowsMar 28 02:11
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #CounterPunch #DRM #surveillance ☞ Fixing the Stream, Shaking Up #Spotify https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/03/26/fixing-the-stream-shaking-up-spotify/Mar 28 02:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fixing the Stream, Shaking Up Spotify - CounterPunch.orgMar 28 02:12
MinceRwait for 3:00 to pass, clock gets set to 2:00, reboot to another windows, repeatMar 28 02:12
MinceRit will just subtract 1 hour from your clock every time and proudly tell you how great it didMar 28 02:12
schestowitz__lol!Mar 28 02:15
schestowitz__I always try to remember what to check when either dst happensMar 28 02:17
schestowitz__we use utc on most systems, so not much can breakMar 28 02:17
schestowitz__and cron jobs never around 0-1amMar 28 02:17
MinceR:>Mar 28 02:17
schestowitz__animal kingdom: what's a DST?!Mar 28 02:18
schestowitz__human: it's a stupid human thing like leap year and "weekday"Mar 28 02:18
schestowitz__we have leap seconds, tooMar 28 02:18
schestowitz__many don't know about thoseMar 28 02:18
MinceRleap year and leap seconds aren't nearly as stupid as DSTMar 28 02:24
techrights-botRemember that #google has been demonetising and censoring #gnu #linux videos in #youtube lately (vloggers reported it). Its front groups have been attacking GNU, GPL and #FSF lately. Revolt of the oppressor. They've run out of patience...Mar 28 02:25
techrights-botPlanet #gnome shilling #microsoft #ProprietarySoftrware #monopoly https://www.ravsam.in/blog/setup-github-actions-for-dart-project/ can we stop promoting the attacks on us and on Git?Mar 28 02:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ravsam.in | Setup Github Actions for a Dart projectMar 28 02:27
techrights-bot#MXLinux vs. Manjaro • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149311 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 28 02:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MX Linux vs. Manjaro | Tux MachinesMar 28 02:28
MinceRgood thing there's http://odysee.com/Mar 28 02:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 308 @ http://odysee.com/ )Mar 28 02:28
techrights-bot#intel still outsourcing everything to #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Cloud-Hypervisor-0.14 after infiltration: http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaksMar 28 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel's Cloud-Hypervisor 0.14 Brings Improvements For MSHV, AArch64 - PhoronixMar 28 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - TechrightsMar 28 02:30
techrights-bot#clowncomputing = a shot in your own foot. Don't get carried away by media hype and bribed-for 'articles' https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=XOrg-Cost-Less-CloudMar 28 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-X.Org Reins In Their Cloud Costs, Switches Public Clouds - PhoronixMar 28 02:33
techrights-bot#Zink : Running #OpenGL on top of Vulkan - Interview with Mike Blumenkrantz - Boiling Steam ⇨ https://boilingsteam.com/zink-running-opengl-on-top-of-vulkan-interview-with-mike-blumenkrantz/ •●• #boilingsteam | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/03/28/#latestMar 28 02:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Zink: Running OpenGL on top of Vulkan - Interview with Mike Blumenkrantz - Boiling SteamMar 28 02:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsMar 28 02:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Saturday, March 27, 2021Mar 28 02:39
techrights-bot#Kernel : Magic Mouse 2, Cloud-Hypervisor, #Loongson 2K1000 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149312 •●• #GPL #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 28 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Magic Mouse 2, Cloud-Hypervisor, Loongson 2K1000 | Tux MachinesMar 28 02:39
techrights-ipfs ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▂▃▅▆▇▃▅▃▂▃▄▄▅▂▅▃▂▃▄▃▅▂▅▂▆▄▅▃▄▅▅▃▅▁ avg(k/sec) 19.51 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▂▂▂▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▂▂▁▃▁▂▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 23.46▕ swarm size (avg): 158.31  ⟲Mar 28 02:40
techrights-bot#Graphics : #FreeDesktop , #Vulkan , #Zink , #GOverlay • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149313Mar 28 02:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: FreeDesktop, Vulkan, Zink, GOverlay | Tux MachinesMar 28 02:40
techrights-bot*** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂   𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-270321.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-270321.txt Read the log now...Mar 28 02:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Saturday, March 27, 2021Mar 28 02:40
techrights-bot#ibm people promoting #clowncomputing i.e. State #surveillance and return to mainframes (where people are mere "slaves" of computing) https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/03/the-current-state-of-cloud-computing.htmlMar 28 02:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.irvingwb.com | Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Current State of Cloud ComputingMar 28 02:41
techrights-bot*** 𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍 *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-03-27.txtMar 28 02:42
techrights-bot#Arduino World Gathering 2021: the official community conference you can’t miss https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/03/27/arduino-world-gathering-2021/Mar 28 02:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Arduino World Gathering, October 2021Mar 28 02:51
techrights-botPQIV: The Simple Mans Image Viewer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqGiX0ZMFUQMar 28 02:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PQIV: The Simple Mans Image Viewer - YouTubeMar 28 02:52
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techrights-botThe #raspi OS is being forked, to tackle the #microsoft #spyware problem. So maybe those will become more acceptable in the future, albeit they give money to Microsoft #surveillance enablers https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/03/27/raspberry-pi-cm4-iot-router-carrier-board-mini-offers-dual-gigabit-ethernet/Mar 28 02:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | $30 Raspberry Pi CM4 IoT Router Carrier Board Mini offers Dual Gigabit EthernetMar 28 02:54
techrights-bot"Destination Linux virtual user group meetup. More openSUSE users all around these days. Two openSUSE board members." https://cubiclenate.com/2021/03/26/noodlings-26-redemption/Mar 28 02:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Noodlings 26 | Redemption – CubicleNate's TechpadMar 28 02:55
techrights-bot#GoAccess – A Real Time #Apache & #Nginx Log Analyzer https://tecadmin.net/goaccess-a-real-time-web-log-analyzer/Mar 28 02:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tecadmin.net | GoAccess - A Real Time Apache & Nginx Log Analyzer – TecAdminMar 28 02:56
techrights-botArm Neoverse V1 Tuning Lands In #GCC 11 #Compiler https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Arm-Neoverse-V1-Tuning-GCC11 #gnuMar 28 02:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arm Neoverse V1 Tuning Lands In GCC 11 Compiler - PhoronixMar 28 02:58
techrights-bot#freesw #gpl and #copyleft power the #www at CMS level, too https://wptavern.com/wordpress-passes-40-market-share-of-alexa-top-10-million-websitesMar 28 02:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wptavern.com | WordPress Passes 40% Market Share of Alexa Top 10 Million Websites – WordPress TavernMar 28 02:59
techrights-bot#ArcoLinux 21.03.11 has been released. https://www.arcolinux.info/ #gnu #linuxMar 28 03:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.arcolinux.info | ArcoLinux | ArcoLinuxMar 28 03:01
techrights-ipfsIPFS local node stats      TotalIn: 7.8 MB      TotalOut: 2.1 MBMar 28 03:01
techrights-ipfsNew bulletin just generated and added to IPFS with CID:Mar 28 03:01
techrights-ipfsQmWJUrDJ8Cf9hRZ5fafvtT2j91xgpVXyaC9dSViC9Se3GsMar 28 03:02
*ephemer0l (~ephemer0l@pentoo/user/ephemer0l) has left #techrights ("http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.")Mar 28 03:03
schestowitz__so much ddos todayMar 28 03:03
schestowitz__brbMar 28 03:03
schestowitz__I think we've gone past all thatMar 28 03:04
schestowitz__exhausting...Mar 28 03:04
techrights-botIn defence of OOP http://blogs.perl.org/users/lichtkind/2021/03/in-defence-of-oop.html #perl #programmingMar 28 03:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-In defence of OOP | lichtkind [blogs.perl.org]Mar 28 03:06
techrights-botThat divisive #debian GR ought to be withdrawn if DPL Cartel gives a damn about the project and about truth. Right now, albeit unwittingly, they help the real enablers of Epstein distract from their culpability.Mar 28 03:18
techrights-botFar too many companies have given GAFAM (basically, #pantagon connected capitalists) tremendous amount of power/leverage over them...Mar 28 03:21
techrights-bot"There’s a Dutch phrase, voortschrijdend inzicht, which can be used to describe new insights and continuous improvement in something. In social media terms, perhaps TIL comes close. Let’s talk about an under-illuminated, yet useful CMake feature. Script mode!" https://euroquis.nl//kde/2021/03/28/cmake-scriptmode.htmlMar 28 03:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-euroquis.nl | CMake Script Mode | [bobulate]Mar 28 03:23
techrights-bot“The Freedom to Control Your Own Computer” • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/27/dangerous-ideas-of-rms/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/27/dangerous-ideas-of-rms/ #fsfMar 28 03:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | “The Freedom to Control Your Own Computer” | TechrightsMar 28 03:30
techrights-botRule of thumb: just because #microsoft is exceptionally malicious and evil (and highly corrupt too) doesn't mean #ibm and #google -- among others -- are also malicious and evil. Don't fall victim to #marketing campaign and bribed 'nonprofits'...Mar 28 03:32
techrights-botTop 10 reasons to use Debian as your Linux distro • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149314 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #debianMar 28 03:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 10 reasons to use Debian as your Linux distro | Tux MachinesMar 28 03:32
techrights-botAntonio Terceiro: Migrating from Chef™ to #itamae • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149315 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #debianMar 28 03:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Antonio Terceiro: Migrating from Chef™ to itamae | Tux MachinesMar 28 03:32
techrights-botWe've been getting lots of VERY supportive messages for our work in #techrights lately. Many people appreciate what we do and point out we're the only ones doing work in some neglected but important areas. 4 million hits over #www this past week (not including gemini, ipfs etc.)Mar 28 03:34
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/h_ckrh_rt/status/1375855443944341505Mar 28 03:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@h_ckrh_rt: https://t.co/jmYNyu5aj1Mar 28 03:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | The FSF Got a Tonne of Free Media Coverage/Publicity While the OSI Goes Defunct Completely (a Corpse of an Institution, Weaponised Against Free Software) | TechrightsMar 28 03:36
schestowitz__https://twitter.com/lxer_feed/status/1375918753486151684Mar 28 03:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lxer_feed: A Factual Timeline of Attempts to Pressure the FSF Into Submission (Not to Promote Real Community and Freedom) https://t.co/9kIhJhVLlqMar 28 03:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | A Factual Timeline of Attempts to Pressure the FSF Into Submission (Not to Promote Real Community and Freedom) | TechrightsMar 28 03:36
techrights-botAngry, lying, foaming-at-the-mouth mob: kill RMS because he's rude. Also that same mob: calling people "douchenozzle" for reporting the facts accurately (yes, some hypocrisy issues right there!) https://twitter.com/wwahammy/status/1373821668624322560Mar 28 03:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@wwahammy: Also, the guy running techrights is a douchenozzle but it's the source I have.Mar 28 03:38
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techrights-botThere's a torrent of pro-RMS pieces on the way: IMPORTANT: MANY PEOPLE SUPPORT RMS BUT CANNOT SPEAK OUT BECAUSE THEY ARE GAGGED! The ORGanisations are afraid of the mob! Bonus: no, you don't hate to "hate women" to agree with RMS on many technical things! ;-)Mar 28 03:41
techrights-botThe ‘dangerous’ ideas of RMS; who are those dangerous to? Whose business model? http://techrights.org/2021/03/27/dangerous-ideas-of-rms/ #fsf #rms #freesw #videoMar 28 03:42
techrights-botHow #billgates paid (bribed?) my employer after we had submitted a request to #police about arrest at his home for #pedophilia (and yes, they later handed us ~3000 pages of police record to confirm this) http://techrights.org/2020/06/03/gatesgate-opener/Mar 28 03:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Gates Press (GatesGate) — Part I: Lost the Job After Writing an Article Critical of Bill Gates for Attacking Some Actual, Legitimate Charities (Because They Had Spread GNU/Linux) | TechrightsMar 28 03:44
techrights-botHow #billgates bribed media that reported on his crimes: http://techrights.org/2020/06/05/the-gates-press-and-conspiracy-theorists/Mar 28 03:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Gates Press (GatesGate) — Part II: When Media That You Bribe Calls All Your Critics ‘Conspiracy Theorists’ (to Keep Them Silenced, Marginalised) | TechrightsMar 28 03:45
techrights-botOne might not expect this from a so-called ‘charity’; the Gates Foundation’s critics are often met with unprecedented aggression, threats and retribution, which make one wonder if it’s really a charity or a greedy cult of personalities (Bill and Melinda) http://techrights.org/2020/06/05/gates-foundation-cult-of-personalities/Mar 28 03:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Gates Press (GatesGate) — Part III: What Happens When You Tell the Truth About Bill Gates and the Gates Foundation | TechrightsMar 28 03:46
techrights-botThe effort to reconstruct the spiked piece about #BillGates attacking charities is underway; there’s meanwhile new pushback against Gates for trying to control the narrative for profit and for fame http://techrights.org/2020/06/12/burning-history/Mar 28 03:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Gates Press (GatesGate) — Part IV: Burning History | TechrightsMar 28 03:46
techrights-bot"This is the same “philanthropy” which apparently ousted him from a major publisher, soon to be ‘replaced’ with Gates himself as the editor (see prior parts of this series)." http://techrights.org/2020/06/23/urgency-calls/Mar 28 03:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Gates Press (GatesGate) — Part V: Putting the Series on Hold to Focus on More Urgent Matters | TechrightsMar 28 03:47
techrights-botWe’ve decided to shelve this series or end it for the time being in order to focus more on the Seattle PD‘s #FOIA , which will soon yield the second installment about the arrest of Bill Gates’ engineer (arrest for pedophilia) http://techrights.org/2020/07/16/gates-press-sunset/Mar 28 03:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Gates Press (GatesGate) — Part VI: Sunsetting for Now | TechrightsMar 28 03:48
techrights-botA few weeks after RMS was 'canceled' (also weeks after the #billgates #mit Epstein scandal) http://techrights.org/2019/10/12/not-stallman-but-gates/Mar 28 03:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The New York Times About the Real Epstein-Software Scandal (Nothing to Do With Stallman) | TechrightsMar 28 03:49
techrights-bot"Only a month or so later when the New York Times published this piece entitled “Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past” the former (and original) subject came back to life." http://techrights.org/2020/06/20/rms-cancel-book/Mar 28 03:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | There May be Another Book on the Way | TechrightsMar 28 03:50
techrights-bot"The media shifts back its attention to Bill Gates, who benefited from the media turning on Richard Stallman at MIT (just when Gates had a massive MIT scandal); Gates escaped Microsoft’s board a few days ago (strategic timing)" http://techrights.org/2020/03/18/rms-and-unseen-article-pd/Mar 28 03:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Inside the Free Software Foundation (FSF) – Part VIII: Bill Gates Quietly Leaves Microsoft and Media Focuses Again on His Abuses (Instead of Richard Stallman) | TechrightsMar 28 03:50
techrights-botBefore the mainstream media decided that some E-mail from #RichardStallman was the biggest #MIT scandal the following media coverage and revelations happened to have gone public (a few days before attention was shifted to Stallman) http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/the-real-mit-scandal/Mar 28 03:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Published One Year Ago Today: The Real MIT Scandal (Before Attention Was Shifted Entirely to Richard Stallman) | TechrightsMar 28 03:51
techrights-botToday #techrights will revisit #DavidKappos scandals. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/David_Kappos #ibm #microsoft #corruptionMar 28 03:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | David Kappos - TechrightsMar 28 03:53
techrights-botRed Hat was appalled to learn that he had rejoined the FSF board of directorsMar 28 03:54
techrights-bot#redhat : "we are immediately suspending all Red Hat funding of the FSF" Good, so #fsf can finally explain why #systemd is dangerous to #freesw communities and #gnu systems we can all manage, control, develop.Mar 28 03:55
techrights-bot#ibm called employees "contributors": "Red Hat contributors have told us they no longer plan to participate in FSF-led or backed events, and we stand behind them." Maybe IBM can also called its employees "community"... see http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/thomas-grzybowski-on-freesw/Mar 28 03:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Free Software Freedom is Not Linux | TechrightsMar 28 03:56
techrights-botRed Hat: "In 2019, we called on the FSF board to use the opportunity created by Stallman’s departure to transition to a more diverse, inclusive board membership." Look at the mirror!!! http://techrights.org/2020/06/06/hypocritical-ibm-red-hat/Mar 28 03:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM (Red Hat) Lectured FSF That It Needed More Diversity, But Was It Looking at the Mirror? IBM and Red Hat Are Even Less Diverse. | TechrightsMar 28 03:57
techrights-bot#ibm #redhat : "The FSF took only limited steps in this direction." Read as: FSF must take orders and instruction from a company that commits #genocide http://techrights.org/2020/09/29/ibm-keen-sense-of-public-relations/Mar 28 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM’s Founder, Mr. Watson (Yes, That Watson), Had “Very Keen Sense of Public Relations” | TechrightsMar 28 03:58
techrights-bot#ibm #redhat : "Richard Stallman’s return has reopened wounds" How many people have you murdered (not wounded), IBM, and moreover for profit? http://techrights.org/2020/08/02/ibm-and-the-bomb-part-6-final/Mar 28 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and the Bomb – Part VI: Diplomacy Replaced With ‘Trade’ (Money Over Politics), or How Watson Jr. Was Sold to the Public, in the Same Way His Father (IBM Co-founder) Sold His Business Relationship With Dictators Like Hitler | TechrightsMar 28 03:59
techrights-bot#ibm #redhat : "We believe that in order to regain the confidence of the broader free software community..." No, IBM, you are #opensource and NOT "free software". You say so yourself. You're part of the assault on #softwarefreedom and you show it. http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/thomas-grzybowski-on-freesw/Mar 28 04:00
techrights-bot#redhat / #ibm : "the FSF should make fundamental and lasting changes to its governance." Read as: the #fsf should change its mission to better suit IBM, which is attacking community distros of GNU/Linux while lobbying for #swpats to cement monopoly See http://techrights.org/2021/03/18/swpats-as-weapon-against-the-community/Mar 28 04:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Trolling Community Developers of GNU/Linux Via Patent Trolls — Part III: The Technical and Legal Burden as Weapon Against the Community | TechrightsMar 28 04:02
techrights-botQuite a few #ibm #redhat engineers who care about #freesw have already quit the company http://techrights.org/2021/03/19/ibm-is-destroying-rht/Mar 28 04:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM is Destroying Red Hat and Red Hatters Are Leaving | TechrightsMar 28 04:03
techrights-bot#ibm #redhat is firing workers who work on #freew while promoting people who do not even use #gnu #linux !! http://techrights.org/2020/08/02/red-hat-layoffs/Mar 28 04:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM is Already Gutting Red Hat and Firing Employees Without Warning, Jim Whitehurst Isn’t Even Using GNU/Linux | TechrightsMar 28 04:04
techrights-botIBM: "On Wednesday, the FSF board of directors committed to a series of changes related to organizational governance and the appointment of members to its board of directors." Read as: we bought #redhat to blackmail the #fsf into doing what we tell them...Mar 28 04:04
techrights-bot#Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, March 27, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintextMar 28 04:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin ArchivesMar 28 04:05
techrights-bot#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharingMar 28 04:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS IndexMar 28 04:05
techrights-bot#ibm #redhat : "we have no reason to believe that the most recent FSF board statement signals any meaningful commitment to positive change." Read as: the people who actually care about #gnu #linux and #freesw have the audacity not to OBEY OUR COMMANDS!!Mar 28 04:06
techrights-botWe look forward to working with the FSF and others to enable the FSFMar 28 04:08
techrights-bot#redhat / #ibm says it wants "enable the FSF to once again become an effective and trusted advocacy organization in line with its chartered non-profit mission." Nonsense. IBM just lost patience, seeing its own profits fall because it cannot turn RHEL into another proprietary UNIX. GPL stands in their way!Mar 28 04:09
techrights-bot#ibm : RMS is sexist. Ignore our own behaviour. Look away!! http://techrights.org/2020/10/04/more-ibm-history/ IBM founder's family literally assaulted women.Mar 28 04:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Journey Back in History: Misconduct or Disorderly Conduct (Stuffing Money Down the Fronts of Stewardesses’ Blouses, According to Witness Account) by Arthur Watson of IBM (Founder’s Son and Former IBM Chief), Followed by Watson’s Admission and Resignation | TechrightsMar 28 04:10
techrights-bot#suse is not a #freesw company. Moreover, it's run by a sales person from #ProprietarySofwtare giant SAP and it shows. We know what SAP said about RMS over the years (attacking him because he posed a threat to their business). http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/novell-suse-sap/Mar 28 04:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | SUSE Said It Was Becoming Independent But Instead It Became Like an ‘Asset’ of SAP (‘German Microsoft’), Which is Hostile Towards Free Software | TechrightsMar 28 04:11
techrights-bot#ibm #nepotism and #pentagon connections http://techrights.org/2020/08/01/ibm-and-the-bomb-part-4/Mar 28 04:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and the Bomb – Part IV: IBM’s Watson Came Under Fire for Representing the U.S. in U.S.S.R./Russia With No Qualifications or Any Relevant Experience | TechrightsMar 28 04:13
techrights-bot#IBM and the #Bomb – Part I: How IBM Played a Technical and Diplomatic Role in the Cold War http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/cold-war-ibm/ #nuke profiteersMar 28 04:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and the Bomb – Part I: How IBM Played a Technical and Diplomatic Role in the Cold War | TechrightsMar 28 04:13
techrights-botSometimes #ibm even runs the US government http://techrights.org/2020/07/29/ibm-and-the-bomb-intro/Mar 28 04:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Declassified 6-8 Years Ago: Thomas Watson Jr. (Son of IBM Founder) as Politician Navigating Cold War Politics | TechrightsMar 28 04:14
techrights-botIt is not weird that #ibm was boosting #trump ... it also did #nixon http://techrights.org/2020/07/26/ibm-watson-plane-incident/Mar 28 04:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Meet the IBM Watsons: Sponsors of Richard Nixon and Abusers of Women | TechrightsMar 28 04:15
techrights-botLike his father, who was IBM‘s co-founder and later president of the International Chamber of Commerce (ICC), which helped the Nazis, Watson Jr. entered US and international politics in his later days; recently-declassified documents show us his political legacy http://techrights.org/2020/08/01/ibm-and-the-bomb-part-3/Mar 28 04:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and the Bomb – Part III: IBM’s Watson Jr. Rose From Business V.I.P. to U.S. Ambassador in the Soviet Union During the Cold War (Which IBM Profited From) | TechrightsMar 28 04:15
techrights-botWe remind readers of the role #IBM played in unbridled #armament (from which it profited a lot) whilst also picking diplomatic roles in the American government http://techrights.org/2020/07/30/ibm-as-global-superpower/ #redhat #militarismMar 28 04:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and the Bomb – Part II: How IBM Sneaks Into Positions of Power (and Nuclear Power, Global Superpower, Nuclear Weapons) | TechrightsMar 28 04:16
techrights-botIt would take some real courage and DISSENT for #redhat NOT to push #backdoors into things. #ibm doesn't care about #security but fakes it http://techrights.org/2021/01/30/fake-security/Mar 28 04:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Fake Security is Still a Real Problem, Even in the GNU/Linux (and BSD) Spheres | TechrightsMar 28 04:17
techrights-botRuss Allbery: faq2html 1.36 https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/journal/2021-03/004.htmlMar 28 04:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eyrie.org | Eagle's Path: faq2html 1.36 (2021-03-27)Mar 28 04:18
techrights-botMany people conveniently forget that when RMS (69 soon) started the #gnu project the "Evil empire" was #IBM and not #Microsoft .... Microsoft was propped up originally by IBM (to appease #antitrust regulators) http://techrights.org/2020/05/27/real-history-of-microsoft/Mar 28 04:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Real History of Microsoft and How It Became ‘Successful’ | TechrightsMar 28 04:19
techrights-botThe #ibm 'golden era' of some CEOs is long gone. Palmisano helped us a lot (with #gnu #linux and #opendocument etc.) but in recent years IBM was hardly an ally. It also ruins #redhat http://techrights.org/2021/03/19/ibm-is-destroying-rht/Mar 28 04:20
techrights-bot#ibm has a layoffs frenzy ongoing. It could really use some outbursts directly at #gnu because GNU systems replaces a lot of "legacy" IBM stuff. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1a4mJ29GMar 28 04:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Former HR Partner - post regarding IBM layoffsMar 28 04:23
techrights-bot#ibm has a layoffs frenzy ongoing. It could really use some outbursts directed at #gnu because GNU systems replace a lot of “legacy” IBM stuff. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1a4mJ29GMar 28 04:23
techrights-botPeople who run #suse DO NOT EVEN USE GNU/LINUX!!! Source: former insider https://odysee.com/@Lunduke:e/SUSEEFFStallman:6Mar 28 04:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | SUSE, EFF Attack StallmanMar 28 04:25
techrights-bot#redhat CEO and now #IBM president (Jim AllowHurst) is not even using #gnu #linux but a Mac http://techrights.org/2020/08/02/red-hat-layoffs/Mar 28 04:26
techrights-bot"Remember when IBM was known for going out of its way to hire the best and smartest people and then simply let them innovate and create? What happened to that company?" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1a4BnbADMar 28 04:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Once upon a time - post regarding IBM layoffsMar 28 04:26
techrights-bot#ibm is in a freefall and the people who set up the anti-RMS petition are mostly backed by IBM (GNOME, OSI...) https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1a3pkahWMar 28 04:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM selling Power and Z processors to Intel?? - post regarding IBM layoffsMar 28 04:27
techrights-botMajor #ibm layoffs planned weeks from now. It's not FSF that's in trouble but IBM. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1a293MgI also OSI: (zero staff!!) http://techrights.org/2021/03/27/osi-completely-defunct/Mar 28 04:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Layoffs before the end of March? - post regarding IBM layoffsMar 28 04:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The FSF Got a Tonne of Free Media Coverage/Publicity While the OSI Goes Defunct Completely (a Corpse of an Institution, Weaponised Against Free Software) | TechrightsMar 28 04:29
techrights-botForget layoffs. Everyone is quitting #ibm https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1a003nc8 Even #redhat employees now quit IBM (IBM sends drones to attack people who point this out, they ganged up on me last weekend) http://techrights.org/2021/03/19/ibm-is-destroying-rht/Mar 28 04:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Forget layoffs. Everyone is quitting - post regarding IBM layoffsMar 28 04:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM is Destroying Red Hat and Red Hatters Are Leaving | TechrightsMar 28 04:31
techrights-botThe maltreatment of #RedHat at the hands of #IBM is driving away people who joined Red Hat thinking it would help promote something positive, unlike the business model and ruthless #patent aggression of IBM http://techrights.org/2021/03/19/ibm-is-destroying-rht/ anti- #FSF statements would speed this upMar 28 04:32
MinceRis it really maltreatment? red hat was evil before ibm bought themMar 28 04:36
techrights-botThe #techrights boxes have evidence of USPTO abuse... with lots of PDFs sent our way. But we shall focus on what this means to #gnu #linux users... #ibm and #microsoft being corrupt and evil.Mar 28 04:38
techrights-ipfs ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▅▄▆▅▄▅▄▃▄▃▄▅▅█▅▄▁▃▄▄▁▄▄▂▁▄▂▅▆▂▄▁▂▃▁ avg(k/sec) 29.95 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▃▂▁█▂▁█▂▁▁█▁▂█▁▃▁▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 60.58▕ swarm size (avg): 158.60  ⟲Mar 28 04:39
techrights-botEver since #ibm bought #redhat the #gnomefoundation (IBM and friends) has been constantly bullying and defaming #fsf people. They're the ones who set up the anti-RMS "petition" (cyberbullying an old man) https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/9s7nhy/ibm_buying_redhat_will_it_have_any_effect_on_gnome/Mar 28 04:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | IBM buying redhat - will it have any effect on GNOME? : gnomeMar 28 04:40
techrights-bot#GNOMEFoundation was founded on 15 August 2000 by #ibm and #redhat among other companies. Now it's a hornets' nest that keeps pestering #fsf (it also did this in 2009) and its presidents later become #microsoft employeesMar 28 04:41
techrights-botMore than 3 former board members of #GNOMEFoundation work for #microsoft (which is likely made worse by the fast several of them were also GNOME Foundation presidents). What do they stand for?Mar 28 04:43
techrights-bot#GNOMEFoundation even added 'former' #microsoft employees to its board -- people who would later attack the entire #freesw community to help Microsoft #monopoly http://techrights.org/2020/10/11/nat-friedman-proprietary-software/Mar 28 04:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GitHub’s Nat Friedman Defended Proprietary Software at Novell, So Why Not at Microsoft? | TechrightsMar 28 04:44
techrights-botThe #GNOMEFoundation ’s Potentially Useless Defense Strategy is an OIN-Styled ’Fix’ and Not a Software Patents Fix (Abolition) • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2019/11/07/gnome-foundation-oin-ibm/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2019/11/07/gnome-foundation-oin-ibm/ | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/03/28/#latestMar 28 04:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The GNOME Foundation’s Potentially Useless Defense Strategy is an OIN-Styled ‘Fix’ and Not a Software Patents Fix (Abolition) | TechrightsMar 28 04:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsMar 28 04:45
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schestowitz__"I thought that he was kicked out of the board by irate women rights' activists for being a notorious misogynist who is deemed to hate all women, including his own aunts !? He is certainly guilty of numerous gender crimes. Unless Richard finally agrees to a sex change, he is to be repudiated, cancelled, shunned, and reprobated ! "Mar 28 04:46
schestowitz__https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/mavsud/richard_stallman_is_coming_back_to_the_board_of/Mar 28 04:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Richard Stallman is Coming Back to the Board of the Free Software Foundation : programmingMar 28 04:46
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techrights-bot"I am one of the few people who is extremely happy that Richard Stallman has come back to the FSF." Not few at all! https://www.reddit.com/r/StallmanWasRight/comments/maahv0/richard_stallman_is_coming_back_to_the_board_of/Mar 28 04:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Richard Stallman is Coming Back to the Board of the Free Software Foundation : StallmanWasRightMar 28 04:48
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schestowitz__Isn't it marvellous? The world's not all bad after all :)Mar 28 04:54
schestowitz__Mar 28 04:54
schestowitz__quote from  https://www.reddit.com/r/FreeAsInFreedom/comments/mam4en/richard_stallman_is_coming_back_to_the_board_of/Mar 28 04:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Richard Stallman is Coming Back to the Board of the Free Software Foundation : FreeAsInFreedomMar 28 04:54
schestowitz__"Mar 28 04:54
schestowitz__Yes! This! is what I was going to post here.Mar 28 04:54
schestowitz__Congratulations to u/kitsandkats/ and probably every reader on here!Mar 28 04:54
schestowitz__"Mar 28 04:54
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techrights-botLots of #ibm layoffs these days. But let's attack the #fsf ... let's find someone to blame. Like #gnu founder that makes IBM irrelevant in many servers (you don't need IBM to have servers) https://www.thelayoff.com/t/19W1IHh3Mar 28 04:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Any layoffs this week? - post regarding IBM layoffsMar 28 04:57
techrights-bot#ibm "is the titanic. The question is are you Ismay or the musicians?" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/19W1IHh3Mar 28 04:58
techrights-bot"From what I hear, #RedHat staff have a reputation of being low quality but heavily pampered." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/19URm6td #ibmMar 28 05:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Confusion about leaving IBM and going to RedHat - post regarding IBM layoffsMar 28 05:01
techrights-bot"Redhat is dead meat, they just don't know it yet. When they jettisoned Centos, ubuntu got the upper hand." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/19URm6tdMar 28 05:01
schestowitz__https://www.thelayoff.com/t/19PTohZkMar 28 05:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM’s Patent Income Slips as Companies Resist ‘Godfather’ Deals - post regarding IBM layoffsMar 28 05:03
schestowitz__"Mar 28 05:03
schestowitz__To add to this thread, and older article on the topic of IBM as a patent bully.Mar 28 05:03
schestowitz__http://techrights.org/2017/03/03/complaints-over-ibm-swpats/ Mar 28 05:03
schestowitz__"Mar 28 05:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM is a Massive Patent Bully That Amasses Software Patents, So Invalidation or ‘Sharing’ of One Single Patent Misses the Point Entirely | TechrightsMar 28 05:03
techrights-botThe 'Reprehensible' "Neil McGovern and Juke need .mailmap support as they have committed with different names." https://daniel-lange.com/archives/171-The-Stallman-wars.htmlMar 28 05:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://daniel-lange.com/archives/171-The-Stallman-wars.html )Mar 28 05:06
Chaekyunghttps://linuxreviews.org/images/8/80/Rms-letter-chart.jpgMar 28 05:06
techrights-bot#debian election coming up and running a divisive vote to appease #google #ibm and #microsoft shills isn't wise for the project. Vote for someone clever enough to talk down this stupid GR. https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2021/03/msg00000.htmlMar 28 05:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.debian.org | Debian Project Leader Elections 2021: Call for nominationsMar 28 05:07
CrystalMathhttps://cdrom.tokyo/notice/A5emVWkkSkK1EFqW6yMar 28 05:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cdrom.tokyo | シーディーロム【Shidiromu】Mar 28 05:09
techrights-bot3,400 people signed in support of #RMS at the #FSF (people, not greedy corporations, which is actually more of a badge of honour). Many institutions against it are funded by #google #ibm and #microsoft as one might expect. They have personal motivations. $$$. Not freedom.Mar 28 05:10
techrights-botAn almost complete list (about 80 blog posts and articles) about #RMS coming back to #FSF Board http://tuxmachines.org/node/149083#comment-28839 more recently there was more pro-RMS than against him...Mar 28 05:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Good News! Richard Stallman is Back at Free Software Foundation | Tux MachinesMar 28 05:10
techrights-bot#IBM #RMS #GNU #FSF #OSI https://cdrom.tokyo/notice/A5emVWkkSkK1EFqW6yMar 28 05:11
schestowitz__Chaekyung: niceMar 28 05:11
techrights-botThe corporate shilling 'shilling' (as in coinage) is running out. #Microsoft : FINISH ZE JOB!! IBM: FFS !! Red Hat, finish him! Google: need to sponsor more orgs to do our biddings! https://linuxreviews.org/images/8/80/Rms-letter-chart.jpgMar 28 05:13
techrights-bot#google funded #internetTrolls : "After months of parking in our IRC channels to provoke and troll people (and try to collect ‘dirt’ from responses) the professional troll Matthew Garrett has been for many years shows his true colours again" http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/Mar 28 05:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | TechrightsMar 28 05:14
schestowitz__CrystalMath: niceMar 28 05:14
schestowitz__but...Mar 28 05:14
schestowitz__some companies missingMar 28 05:14
schestowitz__and RMS is painted as cheMar 28 05:14
CrystalMathhehMar 28 05:14
schestowitz__and that plays into the "communism" slantMar 28 05:14
schestowitz__anyhoo... spirits are higher nowMar 28 05:15
schestowitz__at FSF campMar 28 05:15
schestowitz__compared to days agoMar 28 05:15
schestowitz__wind back in some sails, morale improvedMar 28 05:15
schestowitz__I've spoken to some peopleMar 28 05:15
techrights-botWhy RMS is a Great Mascot (and spokesperson) for Free Software https://odysee.com/@Lunduke:e/RMSGoodMascot:b #rms #gnu #fsfMar 28 05:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Why RMS is a Great Mascot (and spokesperson) for Free SoftwareMar 28 05:17
techrights-botConflating #patents with "Innovative" https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/03/uspto-womens-entrepreneurship-symposium-3.html #monopolies and #innovation are now the same thing at allMar 28 05:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: USPTO Women's Entrepreneurship SymposiumMar 28 05:19
techrights-botIPO is an #ibm front group for #swpats and #patent maximalism. I've not yet seen any evidence of IBM walking away from that anti- #freesw lobby. https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/03/ipo-webinar-on-assignor-estoppel.htmlMar 28 05:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: IPO Webinar on Assignor EstoppelMar 28 05:20
techrights-bot"Protecting Technology in a Time of Vanishing Borders and Rising Nationalism" is an exploitation of "woke" #politics to promote #monopolies that actively amplify #racism and #nationalism (sometimes profiting by bombing other countries too) https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/03/fcba-remote-program-on-protecting-technology.htmlMar 28 05:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: FCBA Remote Program on Protecting TechnologyMar 28 05:23
techrights-botIt's a lot easier to attack a person (and someone's character, even based on fabrications or distortion) than to attack concepts http://techrights.org/2019/09/06/rms-track-record/ #assange #wikileaksMar 28 05:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post: Getting Stallman Wrong Means Getting The 21st Century Wrong | TechrightsMar 28 05:24
schestowitz__Chaekyung: I will 'steal' your graphMar 28 05:28
schestowitz__> It's way past your bedtime!Mar 28 05:30
schestowitz__> Mar 28 05:30
schestowitz__> CheersMar 28 05:30
schestowitz__> AdrienneMar 28 05:30
schestowitz__> Mar 28 05:31
schestowitz__Added my sig, will ask others to do the sameMar 28 05:31
schestowitz__https://codeberg.org/rms-support-letter/rms-support-letter/issues/1#issuecomment-185588Mar 28 05:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-#1 - Make a comment here if you want to be added without a github account - rms-support-letter - Codeberg.orgMar 28 05:31
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techrights-botSign the Petition in Favour of #RMS as #FSF Board Member (Using Codeberg) • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/27/petition-in-favour-of-freesw/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/27/petition-in-favour-of-freesw/Mar 28 05:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Sign the Petition in Favour of RMS as FSF Board Member (Using Codeberg) | TechrightsMar 28 05:39
techrights-botHelp make the point that corporations and #corporatemedia (which they partly own) cannot fool all the people all the time. Make a comment here if you want to be added without a (Microsoft) GitHub account http://techrights.org/2021/03/27/petition-in-favour-of-freesw/ #deletegithub #monopolies #fsfMar 28 05:40
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techrights-botDebian Buster 10.9 Is Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149305#comment-28865 #debian #gnu #linuxMar 28 05:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Updated Debian 10: 10.9 released | Tux MachinesMar 28 05:42
techrights-bot#Mesa Considers Raising CPU Support Baseline https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mesa-2021-CPU-Baseline #linux #graphicsMar 28 05:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mesa Considers Raising CPU Support Baseline - PhoronixMar 28 05:43
techrights-botMany projects in this list have decided to #deletegithub since http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github #microsoft drives users and projects away just by being Microsoft http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/fleeing-github/Mar 28 05:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - TechrightsMar 28 05:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: The Year After We Bought GitHub There Was a Significant Decline in Number of New Projects on GitHub | TechrightsMar 28 05:45
Chaekyungschestowitz__: you can steal my graph https://linuxreviews.org/File:Rms-letter-chart.jpg  the images I make are mostly public domain licensed. But you can also make your own  https://linuxreviews.org/Open-RMS-Letter_Chart_GeneratorMar 28 05:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxreviews.org | File:Rms-letter-chart.jpg - LinuxReviewsMar 28 05:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxreviews.org | Open-RMS-Letter Chart Generator - LinuxReviewsMar 28 05:49
schestowitz__will be nice to see this petition exceeding 10k or 100kMar 28 05:49
schestowitz__doableMar 28 05:49
schestowitz__if there's momentum buildingMar 28 05:49
schestowitz__BUT...Mar 28 05:49
schestowitz__the corporate media won't cover thisMar 28 05:50
schestowitz__"revolution won't be televised" and all...Mar 28 05:50
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ChaekyungI'd love to just see the support letter get 2:1Mar 28 05:50
Chaekyung10:1 would be better, obviously, but just being able to show there's 2x as many supporters as haters would be nice.Mar 28 05:50
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techrights-botLinks 28/3/2021: #IPFire 2.25 Core Update 155 and GNU #Emacs 27.2 • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/27/gnu-emacs-27-2/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/27/gnu-emacs-27-2/Mar 28 06:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/3/2021: IPFire 2.25 Core Update 155 and GNU Emacs 27.2 | TechrightsMar 28 06:01
techrights-bot#Programming Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149316 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 28 06:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 28 06:01
techrights-bot#Games : OpenSpades, Razer, and Boiling Steam • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149317 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 28 06:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: OpenSpades, Razer, and Boiling Steam | Tux MachinesMar 28 06:02
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techrights-bot#SamVarghese of #itwire has #BeardEnvyMar 28 06:02
techrights-botToday’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149318 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 28 06:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 28 06:03
techrights-botShame on CBS. Sucks to be the #microsoft poodles of #zdnet ... investing so much money trying to oust RMS only to be folding the cards, showing more reasons to #boycottZDNet http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/sjvn-senior-moment/Mar 28 06:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | One Year Later Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols’ Libel Against Richard Stallman Remains Online and Uncorrected at ZDNet | TechrightsMar 28 06:03
techrights-botBoth #ibm and #microsoft sponsor (bribe) #zdnet so of course ZDNet cannot and will not say something positive about RMS. #CorruptMedia #briberyMar 28 06:04
schestowitz__Chaekyung: Mar 28 06:04
schestowitz__ $3,325,377Mar 28 06:04
schestowitz__2018 - 2019Mar 28 06:05
schestowitz__https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=conservancy+software&state%5Bid%5D=&ntee%5Bid%5D=&c_code%5Bid%5D=Mar 28 06:05
schestowitz__it grew from 2 millionMar 28 06:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-projects.propublica.org | Organization Search - Nonprofit Explorer - ProPublicaMar 28 06:05
ChaekyungwowMar 28 06:05
techrights-botThe year #SFC started taking #google and #microsoft bribes (selling keynotes to attack #copyright in events called "CopyleftConf") their revenue jumped one million dollars to $3,325,377. They have higher cashflow than the FSF because they attack the FSF and help Microsoft. http://techrights.org/2020/12/04/sfc-not-about-freedom/Mar 28 06:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC) is Not About Freedom | TechrightsMar 28 06:07
schestowitz__Chaekyung: they don't have their latest filing online yetMar 28 06:07
schestowitz__just the numberMar 28 06:07
techrights-bot2013: The #Conservancy Behind Samsung’s Decision to Embrace GPL After Violating the #GPL • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2013/08/20/software-freedom-conservancy-and-gpl/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #FreeSWMar 28 06:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Conservancy Behind Samsung’s Decision to Embrace GPL After Violating the GPL | TechrightsMar 28 06:08
techrights-bot2020: General Manager of #OpenSourceInitiative (OSI) Brought Microsoft Money to the Conservancy for Two Years in a Row, Letting a Copyleft Foe and #GPL Violator Buy Keynote Talks in Copyleft Events • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2020/08/21/osi-gm/ •●• #Techrights #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/08/21/osi-gm/Mar 28 06:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | General Manager of Open Source Initiative (OSI) Brought Microsoft Money to the Conservancy for Two Years in a Row, Letting a Copyleft Foe and GPL Violator Buy Keynote Talks in Copyleft Events | TechrightsMar 28 06:09
techrights-bot2020: The #SoftwareFreedomConservancy Needs to Resign From #Microsoft Before Telling Microsoft to Resign From #RIAA • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2020/11/02/sfc-morality/ •●• #Techrights gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/11/02/sfc-morality/Mar 28 06:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Software Freedom Conservancy Needs to Resign From Microsoft Before Telling Microsoft to Resign From RIAA | TechrightsMar 28 06:11
techrights-bot2020: Big Money Can Do Big Damage to Membership-Dependent Organisations (Which Should Remain Accountable to Members, Not Big Sponsors) • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2020/09/05/big-sponsors-dilemma/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/09/05/big-sponsors-dilemma/ #SoftwareFreedomConservancyMar 28 06:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Big Money Can Do Big Damage to Membership-Dependent Organisations (Which Should Remain Accountable to Members, Not Big Sponsors) | TechrightsMar 28 06:11
techrights-bot2020: A Closer Look at Richard Stallman’s Ousters From Inside the Free Software Foundation (Board) • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2020/12/05/dmca-sfc/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/12/05/dmca-sfc/ #SoftwareFreedomConservancyMar 28 06:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Closer Look at Richard Stallman’s Ousters From Inside the Free Software Foundation (Board) | TechrightsMar 28 06:12
techrights-bot2020: Platinum (Top) Sponsors of #CopyleftConf Are Companies That Attack Copyleft’s Father, Richard Stallman • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2020/04/30/copyleft-conf-2020/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/04/30/copyleft-conf-2020/Mar 28 06:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Platinum (Top) Sponsors of Copyleft Conf Are Companies That Attack Copyleft’s Father, Richard Stallman | TechrightsMar 28 06:12
techrights-botBradley Kuhn and Karen Saldler bag and take home (tax free, because 'charity' [sic]) more than a quarter million bucks per year whilst also bagging #microsoft and #SurveillanceCapitalism cash. They made a business model out of attacks of the very things they once proclaimed to defend.Mar 28 06:15
techrights-botDon't fall for the #SoftwareFreedomConservancy "really needed money" spiel to justify them taking #microsoft money. The SFC has more than $3,000,000 in the bank and that amount of money grows fast. They make mountains of money while attacking RMS and by extension the FSF too.Mar 28 06:17
techrights-botSuffice to say, #microsoft is a SERIAL #gpl violator and not just a prime source of GPL FUD. A decade ago Microsoft got caught violating GPL THREE times in just one year, e.g. #hyperV (and those are just the times Microsoft got caught) http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Hyper-V_Reality_LogMar 28 06:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Hyper-V Reality Log - TechrightsMar 28 06:19
techrights-botAt #vmware #microsoft veterans oversaw the large-scale #gpl violation http://techrights.org/2020/04/28/openwashing-vmware-after-gpl-abuses/ and #SoftwareFreedomConservancy bags money from these people!!Mar 28 06:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Has Helped VMware Lie About Its Deliberate GPL Violations That are Connected to Microsoft, Another Prolific GPL Violator | TechrightsMar 28 06:20
techrights-bot"As it turned out, Simon Phipps (OSI) and FSFE worked to betray the FSF" http://techrights.org/2021/03/27/osi-completely-defunct/Mar 28 06:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The FSF Got a Tonne of Free Media Coverage/Publicity While the OSI Goes Defunct Completely (a Corpse of an Institution, Weaponised Against Free Software) | TechrightsMar 28 06:21
techrights-botSorry, I got lost. I cannot find the #CancelOSI or #CancelPhipps petition anywhere at #microsoft #github http://techrights.org/2020/10/11/osi-and-rms/Mar 28 06:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Open Source Initiative Cannot Lecture People on Manners and Tolerance (and Probably Never Could) | TechrightsMar 28 06:21
techrights-botSome important and exclusive (long-planned) reports to come later today... #techrights gets lots of info tips and leaks these days.Mar 28 06:26
techrights-bot#microsoft : cancel RMS and Install Microsoft Edge, with our repos and keys so that we have root access to your #gnu #linux box. THAT IS THE SORT OF FSF (and Raspberry Pi Foundation) they want! #nsa #orwellMar 28 06:27
techrights-botNice to see disgruntled #ibm employees linking to #techrights to condemn IBM #patent #extortion tactics.Mar 28 06:33
techrights-bot#ibm officials: we fight #racism IBM insiders and veterans: NO, WE DO NOT! We should, but we DON'T. http://techrights.org/2020/08/20/ibm-employees-condemn-ibm-leaders/Mar 28 06:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 2,445 IBM Employees Openly Condemned IBM for Enabling Racist and Intolerant Regimes | TechrightsMar 28 06:34
techrights-bot#IBM : we lie to the public and pay the media (and now use #linuxfoundation to work as media proxy) to white-wash -- or allow-watch, whatever! -- our role in mass #genocide http://techrights.org/2020/08/14/ibm-watson-letter/Mar 28 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | International Business Machines and the 1941 Watson Letter Which Refutes IBM Denials | TechrightsMar 28 06:36
techrights-bot#IBM “Emb(RACE)” Campaign is an Insult to History and Historians • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2020/10/19/ibm-embrace/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/10/19/ibm-embrace/Mar 28 06:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM’s “Emb(RACE)” Campaign is an Insult to History and Historians | TechrightsMar 28 06:36
techrights-bot#IBM Never Apologised For Making Billions Out of Overt #Racism , Now It Wants to Ban Words Used to Communicate Such Issues and It’s Bombarding Journalists to Seed Misleading Puff Pieces • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2020/08/20/ibm-race-spin/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/08/20/ibm-race-spin/Mar 28 06:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Never Apologised For Making Billions Out of Overt Racism, Now It Wants to Ban Words Used to Communicate Such Issues and It’s Bombarding Journalists to Seed Misleading Puff Pieces | TechrightsMar 28 06:37
techrights-bothristmastime #Extortion Shows That #IBM Has Not Changed Since Buying #RedHat and It’s Still a Patent Bully • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2020/12/28/ibm-xmas-patent-bully/ •●• #Techrights gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/12/28/ibm-xmas-patent-bully/Mar 28 06:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Christmastime Extortion Shows That IBM Has Not Changed Since Buying Red Hat and It’s Still a Patent Bully | TechrightsMar 28 06:38
techrights-bot2010: #IBM Uses #SoftwarePatents Aggressively • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2010/04/06/big-blue-patent-monster/ #swpats gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2010/04/06/big-blue-patent-monster/Mar 28 06:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Uses Software Patents Aggressively | TechrightsMar 28 06:39
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techrights-bot2010: #IBM Will Never be the Same After Taking Software Patents Out of Its Holster • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2010/04/07/ibm-nastygram-analysed/ •●• #Techrights gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2010/04/07/ibm-nastygram-analysed/Mar 28 06:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Will Never be the Same After Taking Software Patents Out of Its Holster | TechrightsMar 28 06:40
techrights-bot#RedHat is Not the Company You Once Knew • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2019/09/30/red-hat-under-ibm/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2019/09/30/red-hat-under-ibm/Mar 28 06:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Red Hat is Not the Company You Once Knew | TechrightsMar 28 06:40
techrights-bot2008 (13 years ago): Memo to #IBM : Enough with Software Patents, Please • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2008/12/08/ibm-oin-and-software-patents/ •●• #Techrights #swpats gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2008/12/08/ibm-oin-and-software-patents/Mar 28 06:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Memo to IBM: Enough with Software Patents, Please | TechrightsMar 28 06:41
techrights-bot#ibm has been toxic to #fsf and also prevented scrutiny of #systemd #swpats etc. http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/the-cost-of-money/ good riddance, #redhatMar 28 06:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | More Money Does Not Necessarily Mean More Stable Organisations | TechrightsMar 28 06:42
techrights-bot#gogemini is an implementation of the #Geminiprotocol in Go. https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006171.html #geminiSpace #internetMar 28 06:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [tech] Announcing go-gemini v0.2.0Mar 28 06:44
techrights-bot#geminiProtocol in the so-called #darkWeb https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006199.htmlMar 28 06:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | .onion capsules?Mar 28 06:46
techrights-botBeing a #microsoft apologist and pro- #gnu #linux at the same time is being a "dog lover" and cow eater at the same time. Some people can be conditioned to think it makes sense, but it does not.Mar 28 07:15
techrights-bot...but of course when you work for #raspberryPi Limited ("Foundation") you also receive #microsoft bribes to lie to yourselves... that you can reconcile #gnu #linux advocacy and enabling #Surveillance by Microsoft http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EDGIMar 28 07:17
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techrights-bot● NEWS ● #RIPE #DNS ☞ Trufflehunter: A New Tool to Sniff Out DNS Usage https://labs.ripe.net/Members/audrey_randall/a-new-tool-to-sniff-out-dns-usageMar 28 08:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-labs.ripe.net | Trufflehunter: A New Tool to Sniff Out DNS Usage — RIPE LabsMar 28 08:30
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #Neowin #Debian ☞ Debian 10.9 released with updates to popular packages https://www.neowin.net/news/debian-109-released-with-updates-to-popular-packages/Mar 28 08:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neowin.net | Debian 10.9 released with updates to popular packages - NeowinMar 28 08:33
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techrights-botToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149320 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 28 08:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 28 08:41
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #AndroidPolice ☞ Going Google-less: How to install a custom Android ROM with no Google apps or services https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/03/27/install-use-custom-rom-no-google-apps/Mar 28 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com | How to completely de-Google your Android smartphoneMar 28 08:43
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #IndiaTimes ☞ Disabling video during online meets boosts communication https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/disabling-video-during-online-meets-boosts-communication/81722611Mar 28 08:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | google meet: Disabling video during online meets boosts communication, IT News, ET CIOMar 28 08:44
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psydroid<techrights-bot "Lots of #ibm layoffs these days."> Posturing with OpenPOWER when people would be better off ignoring it and going with RISC-V and ARM https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1a3pkahWMar 28 09:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM selling Power and Z processors to Intel?? - post regarding IBM layoffsMar 28 09:40
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #ITWire #ProprietarySoftware ☞ Nine Entertainment hit by suspected network attack https://itwire.com/security/nine-entertainment-hit-by-suspected-network-attack.htmlMar 28 09:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Nine Entertainment confirms it suffered network attackMar 28 09:55
techrights-bot#Microsoft Windows TCO: #TechTricksWorld #ProprietarySoftware ☞ How to Tell If Your Computer is Part of a Botnet? https://www.techtricksworld.com/how-to-tell-if-your-computer-is-part-of-a-botnet/Mar 28 09:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtricksworld.com | How to Tell If Your Computer is Part of a Botnet?Mar 28 09:55
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #Bloomberg #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ Billionaire-Backed Swedish Startup May Have Digital Cash Fix https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-28/billionaire-backed-swedish-startup-may-have-digital-cash-fixMar 28 09:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot?Mar 28 09:57
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techrights-bot● NEWS ● #IndiaTimes #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ #Facebook sets reopening for Silicon Valley campuses https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/facebook-sets-reopening-for-silicon-valley-campuses/81718244Mar 28 09:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Facebook campus reopening: Facebook sets reopening for Silicon Valley campuses, IT News, ET CIOMar 28 09:57
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #PatrickBreyer #Privacy #Surveillance ☞ Former ECJ Judge: #EU Plans For Indiscriminate Screening Of Private Messages („Chat Control“) Violate Fundamental Rights https://www.patrick-breyer.de/?p=595676&amp;lang=enMar 28 09:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | Former ECJ judge: EU plans for indiscriminate screening of private messages („chat control“) violate fundamental rights – Patrick BreyerMar 28 09:57
techrights-bot#Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149321 •●• #Google #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 28 09:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 28 09:58
schestowitz__psydroid: but what about OpenRisc-V?Mar 28 10:05
schestowitz__from OpenIBM?Mar 28 10:05
schestowitz__It has OpenSoliconMar 28 10:05
schestowitz__*SiMar 28 10:05
schestowitz__Endorsed by OpenInventionNetworkMar 28 10:05
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psydroidlolMar 28 10:08
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #Reuters ☞ Exclusive: #Facebook freezes Venezuela president Maduro's page over #COVID19 #misinformation https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-venezuela-exclusive/exclusive-facebook-freezes-venezuela-president-maduros-page-over-covid-19-misinformation-idUSKBN2BJ03ZMar 28 10:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Exclusive: Facebook freezes Venezuela president Maduro's page over COVID-19 misinformation | ReutersMar 28 10:17
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #ForeignPolicy ☞ Now #Russia Has Its Own Ultimatum for #Twitter https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/03/26/putin-twitter-ban-ultimatum-censorship-dissent/Mar 28 10:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-foreignpolicy.com | Putin Threatens to Ban Twitter if It Doesn’t Remove Certain TweetsMar 28 10:18
techrights-bot#IRC Proceedings: Saturday, March 27, 2021 • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/irc-log-270321/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/28/irc-log-270321/Mar 28 10:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, March 27, 2021 | TechrightsMar 28 10:21
schestowitz__"Mar 28 10:28
schestowitz__Dear Dr. Schestowitz,Mar 28 10:28
schestowitz__I hope you're well in this troubling times.Mar 28 10:28
schestowitz__"Mar 28 10:28
schestowitz__some people worry about last weekMar 28 10:28
schestowitz__but it looks like not much was accomplished by the mobMar 28 10:28
schestowitz__except a bunch of namesMar 28 10:28
schestowitz__and maybe dark PRMar 28 10:28
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techrights-bot● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ #Reddit Users Targeted For Pirating #OnlyFans and Other Subscription Model Images https://torrentfreak.com/reddit-users-targeted-for-pirating-onlyfans-subscription-model-images-210327/Mar 28 11:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reddit Users Targeted For Pirating OnlyFans and Other Subscription Model Images * TorrentFreakMar 28 11:43
techrights-botFOSS Patents: Western District of Texas: overview of &#167; 1400(b) allegations made by patent holders suing major technology companies ⇨ http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/03/western-district-of-texas-overview-of.html #Texas continues to discredit the patent system as a whole; it's existing for parasites rather than scienceMar 28 11:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Western District of Texas: overview of § 1400(b) allegations made by patent holders suing major technology companiesMar 28 11:45
techrights-botPatent extremists who push illegal software patents and the unconstitutional UPC would also have you believe patents should be generated by a computers and then granted for financial exploitation through litigation, which they profit from http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/03/28/artificial-intelligence-where-is-human-after-all/Mar 28 11:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Artificial Intelligence: Where is Human After All? - Kluwer Patent BlogMar 28 11:47
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techrights-bot● NEWS ● #Tor ☞ New Release: Tor Browser 10.0.15 https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-10015Mar 28 12:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | New Release: Tor Browser 10.0.15 | Tor BlogMar 28 12:08
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #Tor ☞ Onionize your Workflow with the Onion Guide Fanzine https://blog.torproject.org/onionize-your-workflowMar 28 12:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | Onionize your Workflow with the Onion Guide Fanzine | Tor BlogMar 28 12:09
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Ariadne[18:43:34] <CrystalMath> Ariadne: would you care to explain why you're shilling for busybox to be written with a permissive license?Mar 28 13:07
Ariadnebecause busybox is a security disaster waiting to happenMar 28 13:07
Ariadneand busybox itself makes lawyers have a strokeMar 28 13:08
Ariadnei don't care if the busybox replacement is GPLv2 btwMar 28 13:08
schestowitz__got some uspto report comingMar 28 13:09
schestowitz__"How many of these documents can be shared publicly (I've taken a quick look)? Mar 28 13:09
schestowitz__Regards"Mar 28 13:09
schestowitz__Everything can be shared.Mar 28 13:09
schestowitz__we got about 50 pagesMar 28 13:09
Ariadneanyway, i am not shilling on behalf of anything.  a lot of alpine derivatives are incubated at LF, so it is a low-resistance path for getting projects in alpine funded.  busybox is a problem from security POV and adoption POV.Mar 28 13:11
schestowitz__"Mar 28 13:16
schestowitz__Medical discovery - USPTO - open-source softwareMar 28 13:16
schestowitz__                Mar 28 13:16
schestowitz__Dr. Schestowitz,Mar 28 13:16
schestowitz__When I put "USPTO corruption investigation" into my computer, I found this article at the techrights website:   http://techrights.org/2014/08/13/uspto-is-corrupt/Mar 28 13:16
schestowitz__"Mar 28 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Investigation Reveals That USPTO is Corrupt, Time to Abolish It or Annul Nearly a Million Patents | TechrightsMar 28 13:16
schestowitz__Ariadne: no need to argue over thatMar 28 13:16
schestowitz__I think it's based on a misunderstandingMar 28 13:16
schestowitz__I know you don't like the LF much, eitherMar 28 13:16
schestowitz__and I know about your stance on licensing since aaagees agoMar 28 13:16
schestowitz__so let's not bicker over non-startersMar 28 13:17
Ariadnei mean, i'm not like doing cartwheels about the existence of LF, noMar 28 13:17
Ariadnebut that's how alpine and debian are able to find funding for projectsMar 28 13:17
schestowitz__LF is problematic and ridiculed in many circles nowMar 28 13:17
schestowitz__some people tell me that our reporting since 2019 has been largely responsible for perception shiftMar 28 13:17
schestowitz__Zemlin 'disappeared'Mar 28 13:17
schestowitz__they hide him now, he's a liability and riskMar 28 13:18
Ariadnethere are certainly a lot of things i would like to see done differently at LF, but their ability to aggregate funding from corporate participants and redistribute them to alpine and debian developers is helpfulMar 28 13:18
Ariadneor in other words, cutting your nose off to spite your face is just stupidMar 28 13:18
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schestowitz__What about SPI?Mar 28 13:21
schestowitz__they help fund more than DebianMar 28 13:21
schestowitz__even ArchMar 28 13:21
Ariadneyes, SPI is another common funding vehicleMar 28 13:22
Ariadnebut LF has an advantage in that corporations already interface with itMar 28 13:22
Ariadneto be clear i do not like many aspects of how the LF operates, and i find it ridiculous that Zemlin tells us about "the year of the linux desktop" and won't self-dogfoodMar 28 13:23
schestowitz__yeahMar 28 13:23
schestowitz__but that is a side issueMar 28 13:23
schestowitz__the person and the hypocrisyMar 28 13:23
schestowitz__and that distracts from bigger scandalsMar 28 13:23
schestowitz__which are too many to enumerate offhandMar 28 13:23
schestowitz__but TR reporting made it widely known someMar 28 13:23
Ariadnea lot of participating projects in LF do not really love LF, but found it to be the least bad option due to the machinery they already have in placeMar 28 13:24
Ariadnelike everything in life, things are not black and white.  most things are in the gray areaMar 28 13:25
schestowitz__this one if very dark greyMar 28 13:25
schestowitz__isMar 28 13:26
schestowitz__and getting worse each yearMar 28 13:26
Ariadneanyway, to answer CrystalMath's accusation i summarize it as "i have several initiatives to see through to completion, and taking a practical approach to them means working with whoever wants to collaborate"Mar 28 13:28
Ariadneif you want systemd to have a bad time, does it matter if LF is the way lennart's bad day got funded?Mar 28 13:28
Ariadnewhat matters is that somebody was able to get funding to do the work.  FSF is not capable of aggregating funding anymore for a long time.Mar 28 13:29
schestowitz__there are many angles to LFMar 28 13:29
schestowitz__inc. the patent aspectMar 28 13:29
AriadneagreedMar 28 13:29
schestowitz__I broken the silence in 2019Mar 28 13:29
schestowitz__because it had gotten too much for meMar 28 13:29
schestowitz__I think the breaking point was something to do with them pushing lots of Microsoft stuffMar 28 13:29
schestowitz__not just raising money from MicrosoftMar 28 13:30
schestowitz__and actively attacking Linux and FUDing itMar 28 13:30
Ariadnei mean, i wish this was the old days where FSF had the connections and mechanisms to raise funding for key FOSS projectsMar 28 13:30
Ariadnebut those days are goneMar 28 13:30
Ariadnebut the work still needs to be done regardlessMar 28 13:30
Ariadneand funding is the difference between initiatives being delivered on an impactful timeline or maybe in 5-6 years when it's too lateMar 28 13:31
schestowitz__big money is "nice"Mar 28 13:32
schestowitz__but big money with strange attached is also problemaicMar 28 13:32
schestowitz__more so when that money comes from what yoy attempt to replaceMar 28 13:32
schestowitz__IBM/mainframe, Windows...Mar 28 13:32
Ariadneyeah, this is basically "no strings attached" funding though :)Mar 28 13:32
schestowitz__such things barely existMar 28 13:33
schestowitz__my next article (draft ready now) deals with itMar 28 13:33
schestowitz__it's about how gates bribes the mediaMar 28 13:33
schestowitz__and then they attack his criticsMar 28 13:33
schestowitz__"no strings attached" my arse :-)Mar 28 13:33
Ariadnewell, minimal strings attached.  nothing other than the usual grantwriting things.Mar 28 13:39
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psydroidis LF where tech dinosaurs go to die?Mar 28 13:41
techrights-bot#TechrightsMar 28 13:42
techrights-botOn “Conspiranoia Strawman Attacks Defending Bill Gates.” • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/conspiranoia-strawman/ •●• #Techrights gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/28/conspiranoia-strawman/ #billgates #misdirectionMar 28 13:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | On “Conspiranoia Strawman Attacks Defending Bill Gates.” | TechrightsMar 28 13:42
schestowitz__psydroid: Ariadne correctly pointed out it's the new ASF Mar 28 13:53
schestowitz__ASF is the graveyardMar 28 13:53
schestowitz__LF is ICUMar 28 13:53
schestowitz__like Intel's lousy OSMar 28 13:54
schestowitz__that doesn't seem to be adopted by anyone except IntelMar 28 13:54
AriadneLF is a mixMar 28 13:55
Ariadnekinda like ASFMar 28 13:55
techrights-bot#Microsoft has been removed from the summary of "Active Sites" https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2021/02/26/february-2021-web-server-survey.html we covered this before. #IIS is dying.Mar 28 13:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.netcraft.com | February 2021 Web Server Survey | Netcraft NewsMar 28 13:55
Ariadnebut yes a lot of projects are just dumped on LFMar 28 13:55
Ariadnelike ASF in the dayMar 28 13:55
Ariadnethere are some good ones at LF thoughMar 28 13:55
Ariadnelike XenMar 28 13:55
techrights-bot60 orgs https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=sv&u=https://svenska.yle.fi/artikel/2021/03/26/nu-har-mer-an-60-organisationer-drabbats-av-dataintrang-bitradandeMar 28 13:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google TranslateMar 28 13:56
Ariadnei think this is more related to the fact that a lot of companies see FOSS as magical pixie dust to revive their dead projectsMar 28 13:56
Ariadnewhen it doesn't really work like thatMar 28 13:56
techrights-bot#cyberscoop has reaffirmed its status as #microsoft spin and propaganda platform, blaming everyone except Microsoft https://www.cyberscoop.com/microsoft-flaws-patching-ransomware-cryptomining/ Before Asian-Americans were shot Microsoft did this: http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/microsoft-blame-shifting-tactics/Mar 28 13:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patching is trucking along on Microsoft flaws, but hackers are still meddling - CyberScoopMar 28 13:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Weaponises (and Further Spreads) Racism to Distract From Its Own Incompetence (and ‘Five Eyes’ Collusion for Back Door Access) | TechrightsMar 28 13:57
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techrights-botThe #dailyfail and comedians that touch the oversensitive rattlesnake https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9406797/Ricky-Gervais-ridicules-backlash-teacher-showed-Prophet-Mohammed-cartoon-class.htmlMar 28 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Ricky Gervais ridicules parents protesting against teacher who 'showed Prophet Muhammad cartoon' | Daily Mail OnlineMar 28 14:00
techrights-botSteve Litt: "Yeah, I was banned from posting to debian-user, in October or November of 2014, by that bastion of debianism and proud systemd vote caster Don Armstrong. As far as I know, my ban is still in effect. " https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20210326.200049.b0a79fd0.en.htmlMar 28 14:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.dyne.org | Re: [DNG] FSF and human rightsMar 28 14:02
techrights-bot#ksa is run by a fundamentally terrorist-like regime that attacks its own people and literally cooks journalists while intimidating and blackmailing people in other countries. Why do we still trade with them?! https://www.dawn.com/news/1614856/un-investigator-accuses-saudi-arabia-of-bully-boy-tacticsMar 28 14:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UN investigator accuses Saudi Arabia of ‘bully-boy tactics’ - Newspaper - DAWN.COMMar 28 14:03
techrights-bot"Time to sack up people. If we can't find the will to defend RICHARD F*CKING STALLMAN, we won't defend anyone. One by one we will all be singled out for destruction" https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20210327.035557.1fbf20ec.en.htmlMar 28 14:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.dyne.org | Re: [DNG] FSF and human rightsMar 28 14:04
techrights-bot"FSF president Geoffrey Knauth stated his intention yesterday "to resign as an FSF officer, director, and voting member as soon as there is a clear path for new leadership."" RMS will be president soon, perhaps. That's the plan. https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/03/27/0714253Mar 28 14:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Red Hat Pulls Free Software Foundation Funding Over Richard Stallman's Return - SoylentNewsMar 28 14:09
techrights-bot"They don't even care about RMS, he is just in their way. He won't repurpose the FSF into another culture war battlement, he will insist it remain focused on its original goal of software freedom." https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20210327.035557.1fbf20ec.en.htmlMar 28 14:10
Ariadneanyway, my personal view is that it makes sense to work with whoever is working on specific issues that are aligned with your interestsMar 28 14:11
Ariadnewhich is why i participate here and work with schestowitz__ on infrastructureMar 28 14:12
Ariadnedespite disagreeing on some topicsMar 28 14:12
Ariadnethis is the traditional spirit of free softwareMar 28 14:12
techrights-bot"This "supply chain signing" will make sure that users no long will be able to run their own code, only corporations will be able to run code on our devices. Just unlocking a bootloader on an android phone will be enough for making it impossible to run any "approved code", without any chance this time for pesky user empowerment tools like magisk." https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/03/27/0714253Mar 28 14:14
techrights-bot● NEWS ● #TruthOut ☞ Cops Hired by Amazon Are Intimidating Workers and Supporters of the Union Drive https://truthout.org/articles/cops-hired-by-amazon-are-intimidating-workers-and-supporters-of-the-union-drive/Mar 28 14:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Cops Hired by Amazon Are Intimidating Workers and Supporters of the Union DriveMar 28 14:16
schestowitz__[13:56] <Ariadne> when it doesn't really work like thatMar 28 14:17
schestowitz__sometimes it doesMar 28 14:17
schestowitz__but they usually do it too lateMar 28 14:17
schestowitz__"code dumps"Mar 28 14:17
schestowitz__for projects too complex and matureMar 28 14:17
schestowitz__like abandonwareMar 28 14:17
schestowitz__"here's a pile of code. play with it. give us the copyrights!"Mar 28 14:17
schestowitz__[14:12] <Ariadne> despite disagreeing on some topicsMar 28 14:18
schestowitz__yes, good communities can work in spite of differencesMar 28 14:18
schestowitz__I think some people try to provoke by bringing up topics of divergenceMar 28 14:18
schestowitz__there are leaks to that effect from MicrosoftMar 28 14:18
schestowitz__explaining how to incite gpl and bsd people against one anotherMar 28 14:18
schestowitz__to weaken both and limit cooperationMar 28 14:19
schestowitz__intra-posix warsMar 28 14:19
techrights-bot"I hope the FSF keeps Stallman on. He literally *founded* the free software movement, provided the moral basis for it, and helped establish legal frameworks like copyleft and the GPL. I can't imagine anyone alive having better qualifications than him, to be on that board." https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/03/27/0714253Mar 28 14:20
techrights-botCompanies aren't serving society. They're often a disservice to it. https://www.cracked.com/article_29887_4-supervillain-tier-acts-of-evil-by-famous-companies.htmlMar 28 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-4 Supervillain-Tier Acts Of Evil By Famous Companies | Cracked.comMar 28 14:20
techrights-bot"This exactly how a "climate of fear" works. Anyone who has looked three seconds at the Cultural Revolution or any of the other descents into madness of the 20th Century knows exactly what is going on here." https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20210327.035557.1fbf20ec.en.htmlMar 28 14:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.dyne.org | Re: [DNG] FSF and human rightsMar 28 14:20
techrights-bot#burma #myanmar https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/military-occupies-myanmar-campuses more important than a phony old RMS controversyMar 28 14:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timeshighereducation.com | Military occupies Myanmar campuses | Times Higher Education (THE)Mar 28 14:21
Ariadneby the way, the main reason LLVM and clang are things is because RMS doesn't do email in a normal wayMar 28 14:23
Ariadnehttps://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-02/msg00594.htmlMar 28 14:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnu.org | Re: Contributing LLVM.org patches to gud.elMar 28 14:24
schestowitz__that alone is the reason?Mar 28 14:25
AriadneyesMar 28 14:25
Ariadneapple was willing to reassign copyright on the entirety of LLVM to FSFMar 28 14:25
Ariadnebut RMS never respondedMar 28 14:25
Ariadnebecause he did not see the emailMar 28 14:25
psydroidapple couldn't have tried harder to reach him?Mar 28 14:27
AriadneidkMar 28 14:27
Ariadneit's just an interesting footnote is allMar 28 14:28
techrights-botConflict of Interest: #Microsoft and #IBM Controlling the #USPTO and Leaving #GNU / #Linux Users Shut Out (in the Cold) http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/freesw-out-in-the-cold/ http://techrights.org/wiki/USPTO#2021Mar 28 14:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Conflict of Interest: Microsoft and IBM Controlling the USPTO and Leaving GNU/Linux Users Shut Out (in the Cold) | TechrightsMar 28 14:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | USPTO - TechrightsMar 28 14:34
schestowitz__Ariadne: would be nice to ask himMar 28 14:36
schestowitz__and see what he saysMar 28 14:36
schestowitz__he had other explanationsMar 28 14:37
Ariadnewell, at this point, its moot anywayMar 28 14:37
techrights-botBloody #codeberg spamming me now... with notifications I never asked for, never subscribed for, and seemingly I cannot opt out from/disable. And if I try to change my email address so that those spammy bits of shite go nowhere it won't let me. I hate signing up for sites.Mar 28 14:42
techrights-bot#whitmer #michigan https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/michigan-gop-chair-witches-stake-whitmer-1148009/Mar 28 14:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | Michigan GOP Chair Calls Women Democratic State Leaders 'Witches' - Rolling StoneMar 28 14:42
*davisr_ is now known as davisrMar 28 14:47
techrights-botIt seems like the domain gnu dot org now rejects some addresses attempting to send email to RMS. Is RMS actually in charge of his email account and what he sees in his account? Seems not... (I've seen evidence)Mar 28 14:48
techrights-bot"For distros tied to corporation(s), they will roll over at some point. (Remember the "deal" between M$ and Novell? And where is Novell now?)" https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/03/27/0714253 #novell #microsoft #swpats #techrights #collusionMar 28 14:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Red Hat Pulls Free Software Foundation Funding Over Richard Stallman's Return - SoylentNewsMar 28 14:48
*schestowitz__ gives voice to alextee[m] avalos avoidrMar 28 14:57
MinceR28 154230 <+techrights-bot> Bloody #codeberg spamming me now...Mar 28 14:57
*schestowitz__ gives voice to GNUmoon2 mmu_manMar 28 14:57
MinceRyou can unsubscribe from the ticketMar 28 14:57
schestowitz__I triedMar 28 14:57
MinceRworked for meMar 28 14:57
schestowitz__ah, okMar 28 14:58
schestowitz__I did look at watch and settingsMar 28 14:58
schestowitz__didn't notice the "unsubscribe" bit at the bottomMar 28 14:59
schestowitz__anyway, having to learn a GUI nowMar 28 14:59
schestowitz__just because I added a name to some pettiionMar 28 14:59
schestowitz__lots of time spentMar 28 14:59
techrights-bot"Indeed, good riddance! Was the politically correct Rust language board of directors contributing to FSF as well? LOL!" https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/03/27/0714253 #deletegithub #microsoft #censorship #proprietarySoftwareMar 28 15:00
techrights-bot"IBM is not a great mastermind. Aren't they busy laying off 10,000 of their employees every other year?" https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/03/27/0714253 #ibm #redhat ... see the threads in https://www.thelayoff.com/international-business-machines it's a gold mine!Mar 28 15:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IBM Layoffs - TheLayoff.comMar 28 15:00
techrights-bot"Screw Red Hat. It’s a dying distro. Everything IBM touches these days goes down the toilet." https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/03/27/0714253 #ibm #redhat #fsf #gnu #freeswMar 28 15:00
MinceR28 110524 <@schestowitz__> from OpenIBM?Mar 28 15:04
MinceRdoes it run OpenVMS?Mar 28 15:04
schestowitz__it runs openOpenMar 28 15:05
psydroidRed Hat and IBM should diversify and split up into dead and dying entitiesMar 28 15:09
MinceR:>Mar 28 15:21
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schestowitz__yeahMar 28 15:32
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alextee[m]what do you guys think of relicensing to (A)GPLv3 only?Mar 28 15:40
MinceRnot sure what benefit it brings at this pointMar 28 15:42
schestowitz__alextee[m]: no needMar 28 15:43
*ChanServ removes voice from ChaekyungMar 28 15:43
schestowitz__FSF will be in safe handsMar 28 15:43
schestowitz__soonMar 28 15:43
schestowitz__I'm about to publish "Get Ready for Richard M. Stallman to Become FSF President Again (for Continuity of the FSF's Mission)"Mar 28 15:43
schestowitz__Just waiting for the video upload to finishMar 28 15:43
schestowitz__the mob will get "more angry than angry"Mar 28 15:43
schestowitz__but who cares...Mar 28 15:44
schestowitz__we know where they stand...Mar 28 15:44
MinceRthough if you mean removing the "or later version", that's always a good ideaMar 28 15:44
MinceRyou can never know when the sociopaths will take over FSF and make a new "GPL" that lets them do whatever they feel likeMar 28 15:45
alextee[m]yeah I'm considering dropping that and having a contributor license agreement that allows me to re-license contributions to "or later" in the futureMar 28 15:45
alextee[m]i hope you're right schestowitz__: Mar 28 15:45
techrights-botThe video above discusses a troubling pattern of responses (or generic rebuttal) to critics of #BillGates , based on a stigma or stereotypes associated with those critics because #corporatemedia gives air time to the wrong people • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/conspiranoia-strawman/ •●• #Techrights gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/28/conspiranoia-strawman/Mar 28 15:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | On “Conspiranoia Strawman Attacks Defending Bill Gates.” | TechrightsMar 28 15:46
techrights-botThe first part in a series about the #USPTO protecting the cabal of #proprietarysoftware giants/monopolies, including improper appointments and outright corruption (as observed by a longtime critic of the Office) • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/freesw-out-in-the-cold/ •●• #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/28/freesw-out-in-the-cold/Mar 28 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Conflict of Interest: Microsoft and IBM Controlling the USPTO and Leaving GNU/Linux Users Shut Out (in the Cold) | TechrightsMar 28 15:47
techrights-botShame on #ibm Chris Wright saying RMS is some sort of barrier to "diversity" just because RMS says technical things that curtail IBM profits. "I am really outraged by FSF's decision to reinstate RMS. At a moment in time where diversity and inclusion awareness is growing, this is a step backwards." Screw that Chris, you just change the subject, topic-changing!Mar 28 15:49
techrights-bot#ibm Chris Wright works for an employer that gassed gays for profit. How's THAT for "diversity and inclusion", Chris? http://techrights.org/2020/07/25/watson-offensive/Mar 28 15:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | “Watson®” is a Lot More Offensive Than “Whitelist” and “Master” | TechrightsMar 28 15:51
techrights-botIBM (Red Hat) Lectured #FSF That It Needed More Diversity, But Was It Looking at the Mirror? #IBM and #RedHat Are Even Less Diverse. • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2020/06/06/hypocritical-ibm-red-hat/ •●• #Techrights #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/06/06/hypocritical-ibm-red-hat/Mar 28 15:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM (Red Hat) Lectured FSF That It Needed More Diversity, But Was It Looking at the Mirror? IBM and Red Hat Are Even Less Diverse. | TechrightsMar 28 15:52
schestowitz__[15:45] <MinceR> you can never know when the sociopaths will take over FSF and make a new "GPL" that lets them do whatever they feel likeMar 28 15:52
schestowitz__I am 90% sure that very soon RMS will be back in controlMar 28 15:52
schestowitz__and those who don't like it... can take a hikeMar 28 15:52
MinceRyes, but not foreverMar 28 15:53
MinceRnone of us lives foreverMar 28 15:53
schestowitz__he can arrange continuityMar 28 15:53
schestowitz__fig said he should resignMar 28 15:53
schestowitz__but in an organised fashionMar 28 15:53
schestowitz__initiated by himselfMar 28 15:53
schestowitz__Look what happened to EFF under Cindy Cohen?Mar 28 15:54
schestowitz__holy molyMar 28 15:54
schestowitz__de blancMar 28 15:54
MinceRde blank on mollyMar 28 15:55
MinceRs/k/c/Mar 28 15:55
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MinceRhttps://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=MollyMar 28 15:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.urbandictionary.com | Urban Dictionary: MollyMar 28 15:56
*MinceR gives voice to zleapMar 28 15:56
MinceR(definition 2 -- there's way too much trash on ud)Mar 28 15:57
techrights-botThe person who 'sold' #novell to #microsoft came from IBM and Ray Noorda (Novell founder) would be truly upset if he still lived... because he hated Microsoft, and for good reasons... BTW, he's still trying to silence me (IBM is a litigious and pretentious company): http://techrights.org/2019/04/14/ronald-hovsepian-vs-techrights/Mar 28 15:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ‘Poor’ (Multi-Millionaire) Novell CEO, Who Colluded With Steve Ballmer Against GNU/Linux, is Trying to Censor Techrights | TechrightsMar 28 15:57
techrights-bot2010: Why #IBM Does Deserve Scrutiny (Updated) • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2010/04/09/negotiating-competitor-departure-from-turf/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2010/04/09/negotiating-competitor-departure-from-turf/Mar 28 15:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why IBM Does Deserve Scrutiny (Updated) | TechrightsMar 28 15:57
*MinceR gives voice to Chaekyung davisr koo5 liberty_boxMar 28 15:58
techrights-botWow. It looks like #google has begun indexing Gemini pages via/over the Web proxy! E.g. https://gemini.susa.net:1993/cgi-bin/proxy.sh?url=gemini%3A%2F%2Fgemini.techrights.org%2F2008%2F03%2F19%2Fmore-microsoft-ooxml-dirty-tricks-pr-lies%2FMar 28 15:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Missing content type. Ignoring.Mar 28 15:59
techrights-botApple Mac user, Jim Allowhurst http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Jim-Became-Manager.jpgMar 28 16:00
techrights-botGet Ready for Richard M. Stallman to Become #FSF President Again (for Continuity of the FSF’s Mission) • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/rms-return/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/28/rms-return/ | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/03/28/#latestMar 28 16:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Get Ready for Richard M. Stallman to Become FSF President Again (for Continuity of the FSF’s Mission) | TechrightsMar 28 16:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsMar 28 16:03
Ariadne[09:53] <schestowitz__> fig said he should resign in an organized fashion by himselfMar 28 16:16
Ariadneyes this is what i actually want to seeMar 28 16:16
Ariadnename a damn successor alreadyMar 28 16:16
Ariadnelxo would be a good choiceMar 28 16:17
techrights-bot#RichardStallman 2020 Interview About Privacy and Freedom • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/rms-on-privacy/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/28/rms-on-privacy/Mar 28 16:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman 2020 Interview About Privacy and Freedom | TechrightsMar 28 16:18
MinceR(cat) (audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/02/28/9c4ef6912131bfc7.mp4Mar 28 16:22
zleaphttps://www.theverge.com/2021/3/22/22321092/lina-khan-ftc-tech-antitrust-law-regulation-amazonMar 28 16:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Biden to nominate tech antitrust pioneer Lina Khan for FTC commissioner - The VergeMar 28 16:23
zleapjust spotted that on Mastodon, so sharing here for insights Mar 28 16:24
schestowitz__Ariadne: yes, I just mentioned to rianne oliva would be goodMar 28 16:24
schestowitz__and people who support rms would be willing to support himMar 28 16:24
schestowitz__zleap: I saw thatMar 28 16:24
zleapis this a good thing ?Mar 28 16:24
schestowitz__https://truthout.org/articles/bidens-trade-commission-pick-lina-khan-led-antitrust-efforts-against-big-tech/Mar 28 16:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Biden’s Trade Commission Pick Lina Khan Led Antitrust Efforts Against Big TechMar 28 16:25
zleapcool just posted to #free-rms tooMar 28 16:25
MinceR(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRnSnfiUI54Mar 28 16:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KHAAAAAAN! - YouTubeMar 28 16:25
schestowitz__We linked to many things about itMar 28 16:25
schestowitz__https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/03/09/applause-biden-picks-antitrust-trailblazer-lina-khan-ftc-spotMar 28 16:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Applause as Biden Picks 'Antitrust Trailblazer' Lina Khan for FTC Spot | Common Dreams NewsMar 28 16:25
schestowitz__progressive sites I trust say she's goodMar 28 16:25
zleapi am guessing that you tube video is from ST The Wrath of KahnMar 28 16:25
schestowitz__http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/03/senator-mike-lee-of-all-united-states.htmlMar 28 16:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Senator Mike Lee, of all United States Senators, opposes Lina Khan's nomination to Federal Trade Commission: but he wanted to serve on SCOTUSMar 28 16:26
schestowitz__those 3 links were in our Daily LinksMar 28 16:26
schestowitz__the problem with biden includes usdaMar 28 16:28
schestowitz__mr. monsanto/bayerMar 28 16:28
schestowitz__there are several other problematic appointments and nominationsMar 28 16:28
schestowitz__the important thing is to keep up the pressureMar 28 16:28
schestowitz__because they obviously watch the reaction from the real leftMar 28 16:29
schestowitz__in 2016 they shafted the left so badly that they lost to a naziMar 28 16:29
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gullfaxi[m]if one still can talk about a proper left (teardrop follows..) Mar 28 16:36
techrights-botToday in #Techrights • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149322 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 28 16:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesMar 28 16:37
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techrights-botLinks 28/3/2021: Going Google-less and #TorBrowser 10.0.15 • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/tor-browser-10-0-15/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/28/tor-browser-10-0-15/Mar 28 16:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/3/2021: Going Google-less and Tor Browser 10.0.15 | TechrightsMar 28 16:47
techrights-botToday’s 𝐓𝐮𝐱 𝐌𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149323 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesMar 28 16:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 28 16:49
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schestowitz__MinceR: hu now second worst for death/capitaMar 28 17:05
schestowitz__covid19Mar 28 17:05
schestowitz__after CzechiaMar 28 17:05
schestowitz__Orban19Mar 28 17:05
MinceRhungary #1!Mar 28 17:07
MinceRi trust this government's ability to put us into first placeMar 28 17:07
techrights-bot"Unfortunately, I don’t think the Anti-Harassment Team of Debian and others of the usual group of warriors will ever read – less understand – what is written there. So sad." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149083?page=1#comment-28868Mar 28 17:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Good News! Richard Stallman is Back at Free Software Foundation | Tux MachinesMar 28 17:10
techrights-bot"I find it so odd that the strong zeal for revenge and punishment if someone says anything that is perceived to be sexist or racist or discriminatory comes from liberals and progressives." https://www.wetheweb.org/post/cancel-we-the-webMar 28 17:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wetheweb.org | #Cancel We The Web?Mar 28 17:11
MinceR"liberals" and "progressives"Mar 28 17:12
schestowitz__"So we see the term sexual assault and sexual harrassment used for example, when a guy asks a woman out on a date and she doesn’t find that an appealing invitation. Maybe he used poor judgement in asking her out, maybe he didn’t, but in any case that is NOT sexual assault or harassment. To call it that is to really demean the huge horror and violence and predation that does exist when you are talking about violent sexual assault.Mar 28 17:13
schestowitz__People use the term sexual assault/ sexual harassment to refer to any comment about gender or sexuality issues that they disagree with or a joke that might not be in the best taste, again is that to be commended? No! But to condemn it and equate it with a violent sexual assault again is really denying and demeaning the actual suffering that people who are victims of sexual assault endure. It trivializes the serious infractions that Mar 28 17:13
schestowitz__are committed by people like Jeffrey Epstein and Harvey Weinstein. So that is one point that he made that I think is very important that I strongly agree with."Mar 28 17:13
schestowitz__MinceR: no hungary secondMar 28 17:13
schestowitz__or thuirdMar 28 17:13
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schestowitz__Russia firstMar 28 17:13
MinceRfor nowMar 28 17:13
MinceRoh, lolMar 28 17:13
MinceRrussia is only 56th in deaths/popMar 28 17:14
MinceRthey'll need to learn from orbanistan if they are to become #1Mar 28 17:14
techrights-botThis video explains why we should prepare for Richard M. Stallman (RMS) to resume his presidency; Kat Walsh, who opposed RMS returning, has left the Board http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/rms-return/Mar 28 17:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Get Ready for Richard M. Stallman to Become FSF President Again (for Continuity of the FSF’s Mission) | TechrightsMar 28 17:15
techrights-botA lot of what was said a year after #RichardStallman had been ‘canceled’ (not for long) is still very relevant right now http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/rms-on-privacy/ #rms #gnu #privacy #covid19Mar 28 17:16
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techrights-botWine-Staging 6.5 Comes In A Bit Lighter Thanks To Upstreaming Many Patches http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/149284#comment-28869Mar 28 17:22
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techrights-botFacts are becoming rare when the business model of corporate media is deception, ads, lies, sellout, and riling up mobs for corporate gain https://twitter.com/pavlixnet/status/1376192506677841920Mar 28 17:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pavlixnet: For consideration by people who still like to think. And for anyone to respectfully challenge. https://t.co/Liivvw9OonMar 28 17:29
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techrights-bot#google does not support women. It would #blackmail them. http://techrights.org/2020/11/03/the-harassment-claims-in-full/ Google managers also reportedly abuse and exploit women for sex.Mar 28 17:31
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MinceRdenymailMar 28 17:32
XRevan86Deny SpotMar 28 17:35
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MinceRsupermassive deny holeMar 28 17:41
XRevan86MinceR: Join me on the deny side, we have cookies.Mar 28 17:41
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MinceRi'm already on the deny sideMar 28 17:42
psyminDenial of what? :)Mar 28 17:42
MinceRnothingMar 28 17:42
MinceRSJW terms don't have to make senseMar 28 17:42
MinceRas they've demonstrated, context doesn't matterMar 28 17:42
psyminIt matters if it helps make their case, but doesn't matter if it makes their case worse.Mar 28 17:43
techrights-botPursuing Justice and Freedom • 𝗧𝗲𝗰𝗵𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 ⇨ http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/oliva-on-justice-and-freedom/ •●• #Techrights #GNU #Linux #RMS #FreeSW gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/28/oliva-on-justice-and-freedom/Mar 28 17:50
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schestowitz__https://daniel-lange.com/archives/171-The-Stallman-wars.htmlMar 28 18:00
schestowitz__"So Neil McGovern has clicked the “merge PR” button a load more times than anyone else. What use is this figure?"Mar 28 18:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-daniel-lange.com | The Stallman wars | Daniel Lange's blogMar 28 18:00
schestowitz__"Mar 28 18:02
schestowitz__This is just data.Mar 28 18:02
schestowitz__I'll come up with analysis once this is all over. I will not fuel either side. I much prefer peace over war.Mar 28 18:02
schestowitz__"Mar 28 18:02
Ariadneschestowitz__: i think lxo is somebody everyone can live withMar 28 18:16
MinceRi doubt there's anyone everyone can live withMar 28 18:19
MinceRwe want the FSF to advocate for free software, dehomag wants the FSF to pretend to do so but actually undermine free softwareMar 28 18:19
MinceRand their SJW troll army will do whatever dehomag wantsMar 28 18:20
CrystalMathAriadne: i would be okay with Oliva as presidentMar 28 18:20
AriadneCrystalMath: anyway, you asked about busybox last night, right?Mar 28 18:20
CrystalMathrms talked about retiring in early 2019, in favor of OlivaMar 28 18:20
MinceRwhat about toybox?Mar 28 18:20
CrystalMathAriadne: by schestowitz__'s command i forgave you for thatMar 28 18:21
AriadneMinceR: toybox is one option we considered, but it's very focused on android, and we have not been able to really sync up with landleyMar 28 18:21
MinceRicMar 28 18:21
Ariadnealso toybox does a lot of sizecoding hacks that we don't wantMar 28 18:21
MinceR:>Mar 28 18:22
Ariadnewe want something that is clean, straightforward and coded to modern standardMar 28 18:22
CrystalMathAriadne: why don't you ask for a linux rewrite?Mar 28 18:22
alextee[m]I think Oliva is a great candidate, i just hope he's as tough as RMS. you need to be tough psychologically to push this movement onwardsMar 28 18:22
CrystalMathalextee[m]: oh he's tough alrightMar 28 18:22
Ariadnealextee[m]: oliva is tougher than RMS imoMar 28 18:22
CrystalMathabsolutelyMar 28 18:22
Ariadnealextee[m]: back in the indymedia days, he used to basically go and confront the mafia about fucked up shit they were doing in brazilMar 28 18:23
AriadneCrystalMath: linux codebase is mostly cleanMar 28 18:24
CrystalMathclean of what?Mar 28 18:24
CrystalMathit's GPLv2Mar 28 18:24
CrystalMathnot permissively-licensedMar 28 18:24
AriadneCrystalMath: license has nothing to do with thisMar 28 18:24
AriadneCrystalMath: we would be OK with a GPLv2 replacement for busyboxMar 28 18:24
AriadneCrystalMath: it is strictly "busybox code is bad"Mar 28 18:24
CrystalMathbut... you said it's because busybox is doing GPL enforcementMar 28 18:24
CrystalMaththat's what got me into the angry tiradeMar 28 18:25
AriadneCrystalMath: the log you got is incomplete i think.  what i meant is that busybox doing GPL enforcement made it easy to find budget.Mar 28 18:25
CrystalMathwell that's still collaborating with anti-freedom peopleMar 28 18:25
CrystalMathbut at least it's not your ideaMar 28 18:25
AriadneCrystalMath: there are other problems re: busybox and licensing that *do* need to be fixed.  for example, it is possible to generate a busybox binary that contains GPLv2-only and GPLv3-only code.Mar 28 18:26
AriadneCrystalMath: such binaries are not redistributable because GPLv2-only is not compatible with GPLv3Mar 28 18:27
MinceRso organizations like the Linux-Destroying Foundation like projects using GPL as long as those project don't actually enforce GPL?Mar 28 18:27
MinceRmakes sense, they've got VMwareMar 28 18:27
AriadneMinceR: we (Alpine) would enforce GPL on this busybox replacement if it were done under GPL.Mar 28 18:27
MinceRgoodMar 28 18:27
MinceRand then they'll fund another replacement done by someone else? :>Mar 28 18:28
Ariadnethat's not my problemMar 28 18:28
psydroidif there had to be a busybox replacement it should be (A)GPLv3Mar 28 18:28
CrystalMathAriadne: i understand nowMar 28 18:28
psydroidwhy go backward to GPLv2?Mar 28 18:28
Ariadnepsydroid: i prefer GPLv2 because it has been tested in litigationMar 28 18:28
CrystalMathAriadne: sorry about that whole comparing you to a member of a death squad thingMar 28 18:28
psydroidAriadne, maybe it's time for GPLv3 to be tested in litigation as wellMar 28 18:29
CrystalMathgee, i can get pretty ridiculousMar 28 18:29
CrystalMathpsydroid: it has been in franceMar 28 18:29
psydroidCrystalMath, what was the outcome?Mar 28 18:29
Ariadnepsydroid: I also find the Tivoization clause underspecified in GPLv3Mar 28 18:29
Ariadneat least in US locale, that could be a problemMar 28 18:29
Ariadnei agree with GPLv3 in spirit, but i take a pragmatic approach to thingsMar 28 18:30
AriadneCrystalMath: anyway i hope you now understand that this is just businessMar 28 18:30
psydroidhas FSF been working on a hypothetical GPLv4 to better specify the Tivoization and other clauses in GPLv3?Mar 28 18:33
Ariadneif 'anti-freedom' people wish to give us money to compose free software, i'm not going to say no.  in this case, it solves real objectives in a way that propagates software freedom (but admittedly many in the Alpine community prefer simple licenses over copyleft these days)Mar 28 18:33
Ariadnepsydroid: i don't think there is any energy in FSF to do a GPLv4Mar 28 18:33
Ariadnethe GPLv3 drafting process took over a hundred calls and we wound up with a license that is flawed by comparison to its predecessorMar 28 18:34
Ariadnewhat i am happy about is that AGPL became an officially blessed license of FSF in that processMar 28 18:34
Ariadnewith Hellwig vs VMware copyleft is in practical limbo anywayMar 28 18:35
Ariadnei think there is more value in finding new strategies to promote software freedomMar 28 18:35
MinceRrevolutionMar 28 18:36
MinceRwe can't rely on the state anywayMar 28 18:36
Ariadnecorrect, the real problem with copyleft is that it exists in a structure created by the State, and tries to outwit the StateMar 28 18:36
Ariadnewhere we want to get is a situation where things are just automatically done as FOSS, because it is the obviously right way to do itMar 28 18:38
Ariadneonce you get there, copyleft doesn't matter anymoreMar 28 18:38
Ariadnebecause a bad actor choosing to abuse the commons wont have a product that is advantageous over what is available in the commonsMar 28 18:39
AriadneCrystalMath: so basically, it comes down to finding ways to enable people to work full time on alpine initiatives while also making sure their expenses are met.  as alpine has a relationship with LF (and many other organizations too), it makes sense to collaborate with LF to tap the companies which make billions off alpine for funding.Mar 28 18:41
AriadneCrystalMath: this is something FSF used to do at a smaller scale a long time ago, but ASF and LF largely took the spotlight away for that.Mar 28 18:42
MinceRtoo bad the funding comes from sources that do not want the majority of software to be free softwareMar 28 18:43
MinceRmostlyMar 28 18:43
MinceRs/mes/mes mostly/Mar 28 18:43
Ariadneyes, but because we have started to arrive at a FOSS-by-default situation, they are forced to play alongMar 28 18:44
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DaemonFC[m]The GPLv3 basically gets around the DMCA by having the author of the software agree that nothing in the software counts as an "effective technical protection" for implementing DRM, by releasing the software knowing that this clause is in the license.Mar 28 19:21
Chaekyungwhy won't my spellchecker allow signees, just signersMar 28 19:22
Chaekyung"Grass-roots Support For Richard Stallman Has Reached 3500+ Signers" is that correct English? I want it to be signees for some reasonMar 28 19:22
Chaekyungis there another verb I'm looking for?Mar 28 19:22
DaemonFC[m]If the author of the software acknowledges that it's not DRM by releasing the software, then their later claim in court that it implements DRM would be ruined, so goes the thinking.Mar 28 19:22
DaemonFC[m]So if any DRM mechanism hinges on a component licensed under the GPLv3, and you break the DRM with a modified component, then you cannot have violated the DMCAMar 28 19:23
MinceRChaekyung: signer seems to be correct, signee would be the object of signing, perhapsMar 28 19:24
MinceRhttps://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-eeMar 28 19:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | -ee - WiktionaryMar 28 19:24
DaemonFC[m]Getting around US law with entire sections of a license that do god only knows what under other legal systems is not ideal.Mar 28 19:25
Chaekyungthank you MinceR Mar 28 19:25
DaemonFC[m]But the fact remains that about 5% of the planet's population and a more substantial amount of world GDP and most of the major tech companies are based here.Mar 28 19:25
DaemonFC[m]So I suppose that it had to happen. Apple's GPL license purge has severely undermined Mac OS as any kind of "professional" operating system.Mar 28 19:26
DaemonFC[m]They've shown themselves to be so incompetent with even SMB that they can't get it close to right.Mar 28 19:26
DaemonFC[m]It's worse off now than they were with the last version of Samba that was under GPLv2.Mar 28 19:26
DaemonFC[m]When they killed off Mac OS Server, it was due to things like this.Mar 28 19:27
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MinceRnpMar 28 19:27
DaemonFC[m]They're like the Goa'uld. They don't have true understanding of their own technology. It was stolen and they're just using it.Mar 28 19:28
DaemonFC[m]It's like some backasswards reverse engineered shit that is kind of impressive, until you see what they based it on.Mar 28 19:28
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MinceRi think what severely undermined macOS as any kind of "professional" OS were their first principles that already existed when they started the LisaMar 28 19:29
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft is getting there. They embrace open source because it gives them a feeding ground where they can cannibalize stuff that they'd never invest in or understand how to build right themselves, but that they're willing to use.Mar 28 19:29
DaemonFC[m]My prediction for Windows and XBOX is that at some point they'll adopt Vulkan as their graphics API.Mar 28 19:30
DaemonFC[m]The product is going to be a dedicated gaming console, and the graphics API is really an aside. Nobody sees it. The XBOX will be a locked down computer with DRM, but it's going to move to open source underpinnings.Mar 28 19:31
DaemonFC[m]Why not? It works for Sony.Mar 28 19:31
DaemonFC[m]Obviously the GPL is a problem, but since they convinced all of these foundations to either throw it out, never use it, or not enforce it, no problem.Mar 28 19:32
MinceRor they'll just get courts to not enforce itMar 28 19:34
MinceRas VMware didMar 28 19:34
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lockeanarchist<DaemonFC[m]> Why not? It works for Sony.Mar 28 20:10
lockeanarchistSony uses a proprietary APIMar 28 20:11
lockeanarchistPS5 is not compatible with VulkanMar 28 20:11
lockeanarchistGNM and GNMX if I'm not mistakenMar 28 20:12
Ariadnehmm, actually lxoliva might not have been the crazy person fucking with cartels in BLAGMar 28 20:24
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Ariadnethe BLAG days were quite long ago :)Mar 28 20:24
MinceRhttps://xkcd.com/181/Mar 28 20:25
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Ariadneeither way, lxoliva would be a good candidate to lead FSF, he is committed to software freedomMar 28 20:27
XFaCEThe linux-libre guy... among other things.Mar 28 20:27
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schestowitz__[20:27] <Ariadne> either way, lxoliva would be a good candidate to lead FSF, he is committed to software freedomMar 28 22:46
schestowitz__Ariadne: he disputes what you said about him and drug cartels etc.Mar 28 22:46
schestowitz__says you must have mistaken him for somebody elseMar 28 22:47
Ariadneschestowitz__: yes, as i noted that may have been somebody else involved in BLAGMar 28 22:47
schestowitz__he caught up in IRC logsMar 28 22:47
schestowitz__ah, so somebody else for sureMar 28 22:47
Ariadneeither way, i think he would be a choice that most people could grow to live withMar 28 22:49
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schestowitz__https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2021-March/235100.htmlMar 28 22:55
schestowitz__"Mar 28 22:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcc.gnu.org | Remove RMS from the GCC Steering CommitteeMar 28 22:55
schestowitz__    I'm terrified by this campaign of harassment against the person whoMar 28 22:55
schestowitz__has given the biggest contribution to free software. This confirms to myMar 28 22:55
schestowitz__eyes that the People *is not* the defensor of Liberty and only the lawMar 28 22:55
schestowitz__can defend it. The success of this campaign will prove that even theMar 28 22:55
schestowitz__liberty to express personnal opinions seems excessive to the People.Mar 28 22:55
schestowitz__This is how terror begins.Mar 28 22:55
schestowitz__"Mar 28 22:55
MinceR"the law" can't defend anythingMar 28 22:55
schestowitz__FWIW I find this terrifying too.  What scare me the most is that peopleMar 28 22:56
schestowitz__supporting RMS are indeed scared of coming out publicly by theMar 28 22:56
schestowitz__aggressiveness of the campaign itself.Mar 28 22:56
schestowitz__Each one of us can be morally judged by others: how do we behave, whatMar 28 22:56
schestowitz__we write, what's the company we work for...  I can myself be veryMar 28 22:56
schestowitz__sensitive to some of these topics, but this is not what Free Software isMar 28 22:56
schestowitz__about.  Free Software is about Free Software and IMHO we should be hereMar 28 22:56
schestowitz__just to progress on that.Mar 28 22:56
schestowitz__https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2021-March/235107.htmlMar 28 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcc.gnu.org | Remove RMS from the GCC Steering CommitteeMar 28 22:56
schestowitz__I think you identify an important problem of gender imbalance in ourMar 28 22:56
schestowitz__community.  It is quite likely that finding ways to make our communityMar 28 22:56
schestowitz__more welcoming to demographic groups that are currently less presentMar 28 22:56
schestowitz__than in the distribution in the global population could reduce thisMar 28 22:56
schestowitz__imbalance.Mar 28 22:56
schestowitz__However, your diagnosis as to the supposed cause of the problem makes noMar 28 22:56
schestowitz__sense to me.  You said yourself that Stallman has not participated inMar 28 22:56
schestowitz__our community for decades.  Much as I know, his very hands-off influenceMar 28 22:56
schestowitz__in the SC has been mostly limited to licensing and strategic issues,Mar 28 22:56
schestowitz__e.g. the GPLv3 and Runtime Exception relicensing, to ensure copyleftMar 28 22:56
schestowitz__defenses were in place to avoid abuse of such features as plugins.Mar 28 22:57
schestowitz__It may be very convenient to paint a boogey-man and expel it becauseMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__that became fashionable.  But sacrificing a goat or a lamb does notMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__expiate our own sins, and expelling someone who hasn't even been presentMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__in the community can't be expected to make any real difference to thatMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__matter; it would rather make us seem *less* welcoming and moreMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__intolerant, and suggest other motivations for the move.Mar 28 22:57
schestowitz__Let's be real and honest, when was the last time anyone in the GCCMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__community was called out for sexist behavior?  When was there evenMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__conversation about it, and about how sexist behavior is not acceptableMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__and not to be accepted among participants in the GCC community?  WhatMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__was our latest collective action to promote e.g. gender equity withinMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__the community?Mar 28 22:57
schestowitz__If we were to shift our collective blame over this very real andMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__undesirable problem to someone who has any direct authority over theMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__project, why not suggesting expelling e.g. the entire Steering CommitteeMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__for its evident failure to address the problem?  (I don't think it's aMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__good idea, but that would be the first thing to try if we were to blameMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__"management"/"leadership" rather than ourselves for it)Mar 28 22:57
schestowitz__What could support any rational belief that having RMS one extra levelMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__removed from our technical community would bring about anythingMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__resembling a solution to the very undesirable and unjust genderMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__imbalance you've correctly identified?Mar 28 22:57
schestowitz__The action you propose, besides the absence of effect in making ourMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__community actually more welcoming, because he's already absent, wouldMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__send the opposite of a welcoming signal to people with controversial orMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__impopular opinions, to people at a certain spot in the neurodiversityMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__spectrum, and to many others who oppose this sort of mob rule.Mar 28 22:57
schestowitz__How about we set out to take individual and collective actions thatMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__actually address the problem *in* our community?  We don't need anyone'sMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__approval to call out sexist acts, nor to invite and train people with anMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__interest in compiler technology, nor to maintain a welcoming atmosphere.Mar 28 22:57
schestowitz__A regime of terror to maintain a false appearance of a welcomingMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__atmosphere won't get us there.Mar 28 22:57
schestowitz__If we undertake such actions, individually or collecetively, you mightMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__be surprised (but I won't be) that he, even absent from the community,Mar 28 22:57
schestowitz__would support these actions, which is the very opposite of the pictureMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__you paint.Mar 28 22:57
schestowitz__Our taking effective action on our own would help show what the realMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__issues and intents are, and it would tell apart those who are reallyMar 28 22:57
schestowitz__interested in solving the gender imbalance and the social injusticesMar 28 22:58
schestowitz__causing it, like you and me, from those who are abusing that flag as aMar 28 22:58
schestowitz__trojan horse to serve nefarious purposes, as suggested and illustratedMar 28 22:58
schestowitz__in https://ultralux97.medium.com/stallman-must-be-removed-a3061b09fb22Mar 28 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ultralux97.medium.com | Stallman must be removed. Richard M. Stallman, frequently known… | by Orwell's Ambassadors | Mar, 2021 | MediumMar 28 22:58
schestowitz__(sorry for long paste)Mar 28 22:58
schestowitz__wrong paste, tooMar 28 22:58
schestowitz__I wanted to just paste the URLMar 28 22:58
schestowitz__URL is https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2021-March/235101.htmlMar 28 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcc.gnu.org | Remove RMS from the GCC Steering CommitteeMar 28 22:58
MinceRtl;drMar 28 22:58
schestowitz__sorryMar 28 22:58
schestowitz__it was an oopsMar 28 22:58
MinceR:)Mar 28 22:59
schestowitz__here's something I did not know!Mar 28 23:06
schestowitz__wayMar 28 23:06
schestowitz__Mar 21 21:06:47 <lxo> one little secret I can share now is that at that time, when I wroteMar 28 23:07
schestowitz__about campaigning for RMS to return to the board, the decision to reinstate him had veryMar 28 23:07
schestowitz__nearly already been made. people who didn't know about that may have taken it asMar 28 23:07
schestowitz__pressure on the fsf, but it really wasn'tMar 28 23:07
schestowitz__Mar 21 21:07:26 <CrystalMath> lxo: honestly i don't see why being a board member meansMar 28 23:07
schestowitz__Maybe I will post something about this laterMar 28 23:07
schestowitz__as there seems to be a misunderstandingMar 28 23:07
schestowitz__Mar 21 21:08:38 * SomeHacker has quit (Remote host closed the connection)Mar 28 23:07
schestowitz__Mar 21 21:08:47 <lxo> the fsf, and thus the board, should not cede to pressure. it'sMar 28 23:07
schestowitz__supposed to be driven by its mission charter, values and principles, not by pressure. Mar 28 23:07
schestowitz__pressure distracts from thatMar 28 23:07
schestowitz__Mar 21 21:08:48 <CrystalMath> i just don't think it's wrong to criticize the organizationMar 28 23:07
schestowitz__Mar 21 21:18:33 * dot0 (~dot0@fsf/member/bl0tt0) has joinedMar 28 23:08
schestowitz__Mar 21 21:18:37 <lxo> I remain a voting member at the FSF, and I'm also a member of theMar 28 23:08
schestowitz__GNU Advisory Committee, so I certainly can't complain that my plate isn't full :-)Mar 28 23:08
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*schestowitz__ gives voice to GNUmoon2Mar 28 23:13
*psydroid is getting the idea that knauth was made president of the fsf as a placeholder and a distraction to keep the mob at bay while working on a suitable strategy to make rms return bigger and better than before while making sure that rms departing for minor aggravations would not and could not happen again as soon as the real motives of the detractors had been found outMar 28 23:13
schestowitz__""allowhurst" is genius, I loved it (EOM)"Mar 28 23:23
schestowitz__-AnonMar 28 23:23
schestowitz__psydroid: I have an article about it comingMar 28 23:24
schestowitz__and the background storyMar 28 23:24
schestowitz__get ready for changesMar 28 23:24
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schestowitz__https://twitter.com/OpenTechLabChan/status/1376240170320683010Mar 28 23:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@OpenTechLabChan: Yet another example of Twitter sentiment differing from real-world preference. Source: https://t.co/e1nCpFBPK0 https://t.co/UVkim6WmZVMar 28 23:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Sign the Petition in Favour of RMS as FSF Board Member (Using Codeberg) | TechrightsMar 28 23:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@OpenTechLabChan: Yet another example of Twitter sentiment differing from real-world preference. Source: https://t.co/e1nCpFBPK0 https://t.co/UVkim6WmZVMar 28 23:28
schestowitz__https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1221407725318172672?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1221407725318172672:0:0:0:1221415093709176832Mar 28 23:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oh my God!!! Our local council plans to do voting ONLINE.... | MindsMar 28 23:30
schestowitz__"Of course they have, just like the CV, lockdown, legal 'experts' who are expert deceitful liars."Mar 28 23:30
XFaCEschestowitz__: similar people want vaccine proofs on totally secure (/s) cellphonesMar 28 23:52
XFaCEthat is, the people pushing for online voting probably have a lot of crossover with the vaccine proof by cell phone peopleMar 28 23:52
XFaCEAlso, you've seen IBM's involved in those ID schemes?Mar 28 23:53
schestowitz__no, not directlyMar 28 23:54
XFaCE...but they areMar 28 23:54
XFaCEFor example, the Denmark passMar 28 23:54
XFaCEthat's an IBM project with the governmentMar 28 23:54
schestowitz__I know they have many gov. projectsMar 28 23:54
schestowitz__but didn't keep up with ID-relatedMar 28 23:54
XFaCEhttps://abc11.com/covid-vaccine-passport-travel-coronavirus-tests-commonpass/9128169/Mar 28 23:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New apps make COVID-19 vaccine passports possible for travel - ABC11 Raleigh-DurhamMar 28 23:55
*schestowitz__ adds another reason IBM dislikes RMS (he opposes many such schemes)Mar 28 23:55
schestowitz__XFaCE: it always amuses meMar 28 23:55
schestowitz__like so many people drool to travelMar 28 23:55
XFaCE>Large tech firms are also getting in on the act. IBM developed its own app, called Digital Health PassMar 28 23:55
schestowitz__many people lost all their savings alreadyMar 28 23:56
XFaCE>also working with IBM and CommonPass to help develop a set of universal standards for vaccine credential apps.Mar 28 23:56
XFaCE>CommonPass, IBM and the Linux Foundation have all stressed privacy as central to their initiatives. IBM says it allows users to control and consent to the use of their health data and allows them to choose the level of detail they want to provide to authorities.Mar 28 23:56
schestowitz__so next step is, you cannot enter some buildings without some electronic "passport"Mar 28 23:56
XFaCEyepMar 28 23:56
schestowitz__covered in http://techrights.org/2021/02/09/no-shame-left/Mar 28 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Foundation of Shame | TechrightsMar 28 23:56
schestowitz__get ready for RMS to become more vocal about those thingsMar 28 23:57
schestowitz__LF/Microsoft/IBM won't be happyMar 28 23:57
XFaCEhttps://www.ibm.com/dk-en/impact/covid-19Mar 28 23:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IBM's response to the COVID-19 coronavirus - Denmark | IBMMar 28 23:57
XFaCEhttps://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1860257859784Mar 28 23:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Denmark launches digital COVID-19 vaccine passport | CBC.caMar 28 23:57
schestowitz__I don't carry around electronics with meMar 28 23:57
schestowitz__except maybe palm PDAMar 28 23:57
XFaCEFrom the 90s?Mar 28 23:57
schestowitz__so this can be a trojan horses for mandatory surveillannceMar 28 23:58
schestowitz__XFaCE: 2004Mar 28 23:58
schestowitz__this model at leasyMar 28 23:58
schestowitz__leastMar 28 23:58
XFaCEIronic that IBM had badge-engineered palm pilots at one pointMar 28 23:58
schestowitz__anyway, there will be resistance to thatMar 28 23:58
XFaCEI hope RoyMar 28 23:58
XFaCEI really do.Mar 28 23:58
schestowitz__there already usMar 28 23:58
schestowitz__is Mar 28 23:58
schestowitz__even in denmarkMar 28 23:58
schestowitz__protests and allMar 28 23:58
XFaCEYou're in UK... I've heard it's particularly draconian thereMar 28 23:59
schestowitz__tends to beMar 28 23:59
XFaCEHow is it where you are?Mar 28 23:59
schestowitz__I will confront city council next monthMar 28 23:59
XFaCE:thumbsupMar 28 23:59
schestowitz__they want to get people to use "apps"Mar 28 23:59
schestowitz__and I just want to face peopleMar 28 23:59
schestowitz__with papers and allMar 28 23:59

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