01.17.09

What Was Microsoft’s “Big Bet” Post Novell-SCO (2002)?

Posted in Antitrust, Asia, IBM, Microsoft, Novell, SCO, UNIX at 9:59 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Cryptic reference to Novell-SCO from Microsoft General Manager months before the lawsuits began

THE other day in the IRC channel, we discussed what had come from this antitrust exhibit. What did Microsoft’s General Manager in India mean by “big bet plan in India (post Novell – Sco and Trishul)”? That was a very private/confidential E-mail. We did some searching to find out what Trishul was about (partial IRC log at the bottom), but we were unable to see what SCO and Novell had to do with this.

That was less than 6 months before SCO launched its assault on Linux, using intellectual property that belonged to Novell. █

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neighborlee	schestowitz, Rajeev Kaul comment about post novel-sco is weird	Jan 15 17:06
schestowitz	I missed that. where?	Jan 15 17:06
schestowitz	in response to it?	Jan 15 17:07
schestowitz	we need context	Jan 15 17:07
neighborlee	Given the impact of Education market in India globally for us and the threats from Linux and piracy, I want to make this a big bet plan in India (post Novell – Sco and Trishul). < this	Jan 15 17:08
schestowitz	Any close links b/w them prior to 2003?	Jan 15 17:08
neighborlee	odd phrasing there ‘big bet plan’ but whatever	Jan 15 17:08
schestowitz	novell= netware; sco=unix	Jan 15 17:09
moogstrap	sorry. phonecall. I was going to say that, as a seaman, I have actually been chased by pirates. they weren’t offering copyrighted materials.	Jan 15 17:09
*schestowitz on phone		Jan 15 17:10
schestowitz	Big bet	Jan 15 17:11
schestowitz	betting on replacing unix?	Jan 15 17:11
schestowitz	Baystar?	Jan 15 17:11
schestowitz	Where’s Trishul?	Jan 15 17:12
schestowitz	Or who is it?	Jan 15 17:12
schestowitz	Worth googling.	Jan 15 17:12
neighborlee	schestowitz, joseX well said last few posts..very nice. http://boycottnovell.com/2009/01/11/ms-mai…	Jan 15 17:18
neighborlee	schestowitz, I feel exactly the same.	Jan 15 17:19
moogstrap	that API patent really takes the piss	Jan 15 17:21
neighborlee	yup	Jan 15 17:22
moogstrap	an optimistic view: http://www.sdtimes.com/FROM_THE_EDITORS_M…	Jan 15 17:24
schestowitz	Should i post something about that SCO-NOVELL thing in isolation?	Jan 15 17:24
moogstrap	you mean from the email quote?	Jan 15 17:26
schestowitz	Intel is corrupting the term “open source” now (just spotted in the news): http://www.brandrepublic.asia/Media/Advertisingarti…	Jan 15 17:26
schestowitz	moogstrap: yes.	Jan 15 17:26
schestowitz	It could be worth bearing in mind.	Jan 15 17:27
schestowitz	SCO and India are not so isolated	Jan 15 17:27
schestowitz	They had Sandi	Jan 15 17:27
schestowitz	They also had some deals there and deployments	Jan 15 17:27
moogstrap	I don’t really know	Jan 15 17:31
moogstrap	I mean, is that the only reference?	Jan 15 17:33
moogstrap	still it’s omninous	Jan 15 17:35
schestowitz	Yes, only this reference.	Jan 15 17:37
schestowitz	Where’s Trishul? Let’s google it..	Jan 15 17:37
schestowitz	http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=mozcli…	Jan 15 17:37
schestowitz	BN at top spot	Jan 15 17:37
schestowitz	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trishul	Jan 15 17:38
schestowitz	Trishul may refer to:	Jan 15 17:38
schestowitz	* Trishul (weapon), a type of traditional trident from India	Jan 15 17:38
schestowitz	* Trishul (missile), a surface-to-air missile under development in India	Jan 15 17:38
schestowitz	* Trishul (film), a 1978 Hindi film	Jan 15 17:38
schestowitz	* INS Trishul, an Indian guided missile frigate bought from Russia	Jan 15 17:38
schestowitz	* Trishul or Trisul, the name of a Himalayan mountain peak.	Jan 15 17:38
schestowitz	Are they trying to torpedo Linux with Novell/SCO?	Jan 15 17:38
moogstrap	or Trishul Apartments	Jan 15 17:39
schestowitz	PJ might know..	Jan 15 17:39
moogstrap	http://www.microsoft.com/india/me…	Jan 15 17:42
moogstrap	“Contributed to conceiving and developing “Trishul” plan as a core member with Sanjay Mirchandani, Rajiv Kaul and Tarun Gulati”	Jan 15 17:42
schestowitz	Ahhhhhhh.	Jan 15 17:43
schestowitz	Good find.	Jan 15 17:43
schestowitz	So how does this related to “Novell – Sco”?	Jan 15 17:43
moogstrap	meh. All I can find are articles about missiles	Jan 15 17:48
moogstrap	and some Java thing for mobiles	Jan 15 17:48
moogstrap	uh, cellphones	Jan 15 17:49
*karabas has quit (Remote closed the connection)		Jan 15 17:49
schestowitz	At least we know, thanks to you, that it’s a project	Jan 15 17:49
schestowitz	Like Sco -Novell maybe?	Jan 15 17:49
schestowitz	I don’t know the chronicles of this too welll…	Jan 15 17:49
schestowitz	PJ has historical summaries…	Jan 15 17:49
moogstrap	doubtful: http://www.few.vu.nl/~srijith/masters/t…	Jan 15 17:50
schestowitz	So I don’t know how SCO related to Novell before litigation	Jan 15 17:50
schestowitz	GrokDoc/GrokLine with timelines and all might help	Jan 15 17:50
schestowitz	SCO did some mobile stuff recently (failed of course)	Jan 15 17:50
schestowitz	Signed some deals in India IIRC	Jan 15 17:50
schestowitz	Now it sells the assets	Jan 15 17:50
moogstrap	google has forsaken me. sorry dude	Jan 15 18:03
moogstrap	A patent invented by a guy called Trishul, owned by Microsoft: http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-85342158.html	Jan 15 18:13
schestowitz	Heh	Jan 15 18:15
schestowitz	Thanks for looking.	Jan 15 18:15

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