| schestowitz |
The MSBBC also shows an image/video of “virus” that makes people think it’s an animal or something. What a disgrace their tech coverage is. Everyone thinks so. |
Dec 12 21:28 |
| SubsonicB |
And they want to turn internet into the next TV: (just see what happened with the wikipedia censorship) |
Dec 12 21:33 |
| schestowitz |
I was just reading about it in the MSBBC. |
Dec 12 21:33 |
| SubsonicB |
what makes me wonder |
Dec 12 21:33 |
| schestowitz |
“Telstra, Australia’s largest ISP, has said it will not join trials of the filters and others say they will only back a scaled-down system.” http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/techno… |
Dec 12 21:33 |
| schestowitz |
Telstra is now a buddy of Microsoft, but.. |
Dec 12 21:33 |
| SubsonicB |
if it wasnt a site as well known as the wikipedia would this have been so well known? |
Dec 12 21:34 |
| schestowitz |
Probably not. |
Dec 12 21:34 |
| schestowitz |
Some are already ‘filtered’ |
Dec 12 21:34 |
| SubsonicB |
How many more “transparent proxies” are they testing in order to impose censorship over the net |
Dec 12 21:34 |
| SubsonicB |
that we dont even know |
Dec 12 21:34 |
| schestowitz |
filtered -> censored -> ‘managed’ -> protected -> not approved |
Dec 12 21:35 |
| schestowitz |
Words matter a lot |
Dec 12 21:35 |
| schestowitz |
security is always a good excuse. “We ‘protect’ the surfer” |
Dec 12 21:35 |
| SubsonicB |
There is a recent piece of news that people spend more time on the internet than watching TV now |
Dec 12 21:35 |
| schestowitz |
Usually we “protect” (the children) from <terrorism is always an eye opener> |
Dec 12 21:36 |
| SubsonicB |
So now they have to dominate the internet |
Dec 12 21:36 |
| schestowitz |
Watch out for military brainwash in PC games and music videos |
Dec 12 21:36 |
| SubsonicB |
politicians are already at it |
Dec 12 21:36 |
| schestowitz |
YouTube traffic is up like 30%, IIRC |
Dec 12 21:36 |
| schestowitz |
I posted this here the other day |
Dec 12 21:36 |
| schestowitz |
It’s out of my IRC buffer range now. |
Dec 12 21:37 |
| schestowitz |
Do you know the song “Hero”? |
Dec 12 21:37 |
| SubsonicB |
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/1… |
Dec 12 21:37 |
| schestowitz |
I think I saw this |
Dec 12 21:38 |
| SubsonicB |
“Hero” not sure |
Dec 12 21:38 |
| schestowitz |
The issue of controlling the Internet was first discussed when the medium was born |
Dec 12 21:39 |
| schestowitz |
I learned this last week |
Dec 12 21:39 |
| SubsonicB |
the problem is when the interests of politicians and big media companies (RIAA, etc) are aligned |
Dec 12 21:39 |
| schestowitz |
Many years went by and people must stand to protect it. Even meshes are repressed because there is no cenralised control. |
Dec 12 21:39 |
| SubsonicB |
RIAA wants to kill P2P, politicians want to kill free speech, privacy and anonimity |
Dec 12 21:40 |
| schestowitz |
“Hero” = glamorization of war in my mind, although it’s subtle. |
Dec 12 21:40 |
| schestowitz |
‘Sentimental’ militarisation |
Dec 12 21:40 |
| SubsonicB |
who’s the singer/group? |
Dec 12 21:40 |
| schestowitz |
Seevral |
Dec 12 21:41 |
| SubsonicB |
nope |
Dec 12 21:41 |
| schestowitz |
X factor drones, IIRC |
Dec 12 21:41 |
| schestowitz |
They weave that in with photos from the invasion of Iraw |
Dec 12 21:41 |
| SubsonicB |
well its very much the same with war films |
Dec 12 21:42 |
| schestowitz |
The Army advertises on television as well, but to be fair, this has been going on for about 2 years in the channels that I watch |
Dec 12 21:42 |
| SubsonicB |
propaganda |
Dec 12 21:42 |
| schestowitz |
You can’t complain to anyone |
Dec 12 21:42 |
| schestowitz |
Pro-peace groups are marginalised |
Dec 12 21:42 |
| SubsonicB |
yes |
Dec 12 21:43 |
| SubsonicB |
just like students protesting against bolonia plans |
Dec 12 21:44 |
| schestowitz |
Beranger Sucks! < http://www.junauza.com/2008/12/beran… > |
Dec 12 21:44 |
| SubsonicB |
and look at Greece |
Dec 12 21:44 |
| schestowitz |
SubsonicB: well, at lest they don’t send tanks at em |
Dec 12 21:44 |
| schestowitz |
[if you know what I mean] |
Dec 12 21:44 |
| schestowitz |
http://osdir.com/ml/culture.religion.healer.mayapa… |
Dec 12 21:45 |
| schestowitz |
“A few of Beranger’s readers are still hoping that his move is just temporary, but I think otherwise.” |
Dec 12 21:46 |
| SubsonicB |
Any Gnu/Linux advocate is quickly depicted as religious, extremist, fanatic, zealot, etc… |
Dec 12 21:47 |
| SubsonicB |
…in the mainstream press anywway |
Dec 12 21:48 |
| schestowitz |
Where? |
Dec 12 21:49 |
| SubsonicB |
in general |
Dec 12 21:49 |
| schestowitz |
Can a majority be called zealot? |
Dec 12 21:49 |
| schestowitz |
Like… you know… you wouldn’t find phrases like “Microsoft zealots” anywhere. |
Dec 12 21:50 |
| schestowitz |
It’s just like saying “American terrorist” |
Dec 12 21:50 |
| *benJIman has quit (“BRB Garbage collecting.”) |
Dec 12 21:50 |
| SubsonicB |
not sure if it is meaningful in english |
Dec 12 21:50 |
| schestowitz |
You could say “Mugabe is a terrorist” |
Dec 12 21:50 |
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Dec 12 21:50 |
| schestowitz |
No-one would raise a brow |
Dec 12 21:50 |
| SubsonicB |
sure there can be Microsoft zealots |
Dec 12 21:50 |
| schestowitz |
But if you apply yhe same assignment of character to someone in America, then you *must* explain |
Dec 12 21:50 |
| SubsonicB |
Of course you are right |
Dec 12 21:51 |
| schestowitz |
“Linux is a cancer”… |
Dec 12 21:51 |
| schestowitz |
Or was it GPL…? |
Dec 12 21:51 |
| schestowitz |
Either way, that’s zeal. |
Dec 12 21:51 |
| SubsonicB |
for me it is very curious how they manipulate the meanings of language |
Dec 12 21:51 |
| schestowitz |
GPL has “no right to exist” because it’s ‘different’. EULA that treats customers like trash= good? |
Dec 12 21:51 |
| SubsonicB |
very much with the marketing words that Microsoft tries to mix and change in order to confuse the public |
Dec 12 21:51 |
| schestowitz |
“If thought can corrupt language, then language can also corrupt thought.” –George Orwell |
Dec 12 21:52 |
| schestowitz |
“Pirates, “remember? |
Dec 12 21:52 |
| SubsonicB |
people is kept so ignorant |
Dec 12 21:52 |
| schestowitz |
Pirates are not the hounds that sue ill people for their house. |
Dec 12 21:52 |
| SubsonicB |
when I talk about Free software to people many of them don’t believe me |
Dec 12 21:52 |
| schestowitz |
It’s the people who share some song by accident in some Win32 app |
Dec 12 21:52 |
| schestowitz |
Free=cheap |
Dec 12 21:53 |
| SubsonicB |
like the story of the teacher thinking a pupil was doing something illegal by distributing copies of linux among his classmates |
Dec 12 21:53 |
| schestowitz |
People are taught this at school |
Dec 12 21:53 |
| SubsonicB |
in the blog of helios |
Dec 12 21:53 |
| schestowitz |
Microsoft assists new IPR curricium. |
Dec 12 21:53 |
| SubsonicB |
yes, but Free is not just cheap in spanish |
Dec 12 21:53 |
| schestowitz |
They teach tots that music is theft and you can get mommy and daddy in jail |
Dec 12 21:53 |
| schestowitz |
No kiddding. |
Dec 12 21:54 |
| SubsonicB |
you have “Libre” and “Gratis” |
Dec 12 21:54 |
| schestowitz |
I called this Ballmer Youth. |
Dec 12 21:54 |
| schestowitz |
http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/2… |
Dec 12 21:54 |
| SubsonicB |
Yes, the spanish RIAA (called SGAE) has disgusting campaigns on tv in which they equal sharing music to theft and crime |
Dec 12 21:54 |
| schestowitz |
Yes, they do that too |
Dec 12 21:54 |
| schestowitz |
I didn’t see this here, but i read about the US propaganda from them |
Dec 12 21:55 |
| schestowitz |
They own radio stattions, so this 10-second brainwash plug is cheap to them |
Dec 12 21:55 |
| SubsonicB |
The funny think is that in spain it is in fact LEGAL to exchange music and movies through P2P as far as it is without any attempt of making money |
Dec 12 21:55 |
| schestowitz |
Advertising it a one-trillion-dollar industry (so I read yesterday) |
Dec 12 21:55 |
| schestowitz |
It’s very wasteful. 20% of the budget goes into shaping people’s perception, deviating things from normals. |
Dec 12 21:56 |
| schestowitz |
Other countries rethink this too |
Dec 12 21:56 |
| SubsonicB |
We all pay a “canon” (overprice tax) on CDs, DVDs, HDDs, computers, photocopiers, etc to compensate artists for copies |
Dec 12 21:56 |
| schestowitz |
But I listen to CC-licensed tunes. |
Dec 12 21:56 |
| schestowitz |
I don’t want to feed MAFIAA in any way |
Dec 12 21:56 |
| SubsonicB |
This is a HUGE source of revenue for SGAE (Spanish MAFIAA) |
Dec 12 21:57 |
| schestowitz |
Those artists who go to MAFIAA will not even have their tuned listened to…. let alone paid for (with or without infringements) |
Dec 12 21:57 |
| SubsonicB |
and has been endorsed by the government |
Dec 12 21:57 |
| schestowitz |
They need to be encouraged to have the MAFIAA starved. |
Dec 12 21:57 |
| schestowitz |
Lessig fights against this. |
Dec 12 21:58 |
| schestowitz |
Byt he’s one person with some followers |
Dec 12 21:58 |
| schestowitz |
The majority is ‘bought’. |
Dec 12 21:58 |
| SubsonicB |
even public libraries have to pay a canon for lending books |
Dec 12 21:58 |
| schestowitz |
I download books. |
Dec 12 21:58 |
| schestowitz |
Byt public libraries are paid for by taxpayers |
Dec 12 21:58 |
| schestowitz |
Another thing here is TV tax (I don’t have a TV because of this.. I gave mine away). It means you pay Microsofgt and the Microsoft-corrupted BBC, among others. |
Dec 12 21:59 |
| SubsonicB |
I think Lessig, PJ, Carlo Piana, RMS, Eben Moglen and some others (maybe Andy Updegrove) should team to fight against software patnets and copyright abuse |
Dec 12 21:59 |
| schestowitz |
Not enough |
Dec 12 22:00 |
| schestowitz |
Politicians are bought, not persuaded. |
Dec 12 22:00 |
| schestowitz |
They are better off exposed for their corruption |
Dec 12 22:01 |
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Dec 12 22:01 |
| SubsonicB |
yes, there is. But you know the thesis of the publishers (of books, disks, movies, software) is that every book/disc/movie that one can get for free (either downloaded or lent) is a sell they lost |
Dec 12 22:01 |
| schestowitz |
I spend more time these days showing the rot in the system as much as suggest other solutions. |
Dec 12 22:01 |
| wispy |
hello everyone! |
Dec 12 22:01 |
| schestowitz |
Hey wispy |
Dec 12 22:01 |
| SubsonicB |
which is utterly nonsense |
Dec 12 22:01 |
| wispy |
roy, what’s up? :D |
Dec 12 22:01 |
| SubsonicB |
hello |
Dec 12 22:01 |
| wispy |
hiya |
Dec 12 22:01 |
| schestowitz |
Not much is up |
Dec 12 22:01 |
| schestowitz |
Slow news day |
Dec 12 22:01 |
| wispy |
lol i’m just studying for finals |
Dec 12 22:02 |
| schestowitz |
Corruption in the United States of Advertising too |
Dec 12 22:02 |
| schestowitz |
$50 billion+ |
Dec 12 22:02 |
| schestowitz |
(plus ripples effects to be realised) |
Dec 12 22:02 |
| wispy |
white collar crime |
Dec 12 22:02 |
| wispy |
nice mug, roy  |
Dec 12 22:02 |
| wispy |
mugshot |
Dec 12 22:02 |
| schestowitz |
The Wall Street Casino(R) turns out to be a pen of pimps. |
Dec 12 22:02 |
| schestowitz |
But they stole people’s money only in the past year |
Dec 12 22:02 |
| schestowitz |
Oh, *that*. Thanks. |
Dec 12 22:03 |
| wispy |
hehe np |
Dec 12 22:03 |
| schestowitz |
wispy: did you and your family suffer too from the corruption uv’ 2008? |
Dec 12 22:03 |
| SubsonicB |
they keep shoving people’s money into the financial hole |
Dec 12 22:04 |
| wispy |
not really since my dad is an engineer and has a very steady income stream |
Dec 12 22:04 |
| schestowitz |
There’s no escape |
Dec 12 22:04 |
| schestowitz |
Many people’s pensions and savings are tied to stocks/bonds too |
Dec 12 22:04 |
| wispy |
that sucks  |
Dec 12 22:04 |
| SubsonicB |
i’l try to find a photo about advertising |
Dec 12 22:04 |
| schestowitz |
It’s a good thing my sister bought a house just a year ago. She would have lost the monety |
Dec 12 22:04 |
| SubsonicB |
I would forbid the privatisation of entire sectors of the economy |
Dec 12 22:05 |
| *benJIman has quit (“brb”) |
Dec 12 22:05 |
| wispy |
whew what a relief roy |
Dec 12 22:05 |
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Dec 12 22:05 |
| SubsonicB |
health, education, social services and pensions, energy |
Dec 12 22:05 |
| SubsonicB |
and fix the prices of housing |
Dec 12 22:05 |
| wispy |
sounds cool |
Dec 12 22:06 |
| schestowitz |
privatisation??? Was that proposed? |
Dec 12 22:06 |
| schestowitz |
I mean, of the *whole* thing? |
Dec 12 22:06 |
| schestowitz |
Just car makers… better than to sell it to the Chinese. |
Dec 12 22:06 |
| wispy |
i just did a project on the big three |
Dec 12 22:07 |
| SubsonicB |
They have been doing it for years |
Dec 12 22:07 |
| SubsonicB |
they call it “liberlaization” |
Dec 12 22:07 |
| schestowitz |
But then, what do I know? We’re no economists (people who speak jargon and predict based on dice and inside information, i.e. fraud) |
Dec 12 22:07 |
| wispy |
i had to talk about the innovations they were involved with, and japan is way ahead |
Dec 12 22:07 |
| schestowitz |
LMAO @ “liberlaization” |
Dec 12 22:08 |
| wispy |
roy, were you ever interested in a business degree? |
Dec 12 22:08 |
| SubsonicB |
we know better because we dont have vested interests |
Dec 12 22:08 |
| schestowitz |
Yes, like invading countries is “restoring democracy” |
Dec 12 22:08 |
| wispy |
XD |
Dec 12 22:08 |
| schestowitz |
Ir defending Christian values |
Dec 12 22:08 |
| SubsonicB |
quite the same |
Dec 12 22:08 |
| schestowitz |
Or “liberating the population that’s ‘oppressed’ |
Dec 12 22:08 |
| SubsonicB |
I recommend reading “The shock doctrine” by Naomi Klein |
Dec 12 22:08 |
| schestowitz |
Wait until the US goes to save the ‘poor’ Chinese from that government that censors (like AT&T.. SHEESH) |
Dec 12 22:09 |
| schestowitz |
wispy: no, busienss is not for me |
Dec 12 22:09 |
| SubsonicB |
The Chinese area bout to screw the US |
Dec 12 22:09 |
| SubsonicB |
are about |
Dec 12 22:09 |
| wispy |
you seem very interested in it, roy. |
Dec 12 22:09 |
| wispy |
you’re smart all around, i guess |
Dec 12 22:09 |
| schestowitz |
I think I heard of “The shock doctrine” |
Dec 12 22:09 |
| SubsonicB |
its worth reading |
Dec 12 22:10 |
| schestowitz |
Sheesh,, SubsonicB |
Dec 12 22:10 |
| schestowitz |
You can’t say that |
Dec 12 22:10 |
| SubsonicB |
what |
Dec 12 22:10 |
| schestowitz |
It incites panic |
Dec 12 22:10 |
| schestowitz |
But a lot of the time you must say things the press cannot tell |
Dec 12 22:10 |
| SubsonicB |
Everyone knows it |
Dec 12 22:10 |
| wispy |
i heard of that, too |
Dec 12 22:10 |
| schestowitz |
the control is done by editorial, selection or fear (for one’s job, now in practicuals) |
Dec 12 22:10 |
| schestowitz |
China has HEAPS of monet |
Dec 12 22:11 |
| schestowitz |
China, not the Chinese |
Dec 12 22:11 |
| schestowitz |
It’s not as though the wealth is distributed |
Dec 12 22:11 |
| SubsonicB |
The Chinese have a lot of fiat-currency dollars, the dollar is devaluating, if the chinese sell their dollar reserves on the cheap all the financial house of cards will fall |
Dec 12 22:11 |
| schestowitz |
In the China I think they have the communists aggregating much of this money(=power) |
Dec 12 22:11 |
| schestowitz |
In the US it’s so-called crook^H^H^H^H^H^Heroes who started imperialist companies. |
Dec 12 22:11 |
| SubsonicB |
Thats the reason why the US went to Irak and now they wanted to go to Iran, because these countries wanted to sell the petron in euros |
Dec 12 22:12 |
| schestowitz |
SubsonicB: that might happen soon |
Dec 12 22:12 |
| wispy |
yes i heard they wanted to do that, subsonic, about the oil |
Dec 12 22:12 |
| schestowitz |
Iran was threatened with war I think (implicit?) for recommending Euros |
Dec 12 22:12 |
| schestowitz |
wispy beat me to it |
Dec 12 22:12 |
| SubsonicB |
there is nothing sustaining the american economy and its currency except the fact that the dollar is the only currency that can buy crude oil |
Dec 12 22:12 |
| wispy |
venezuela wants to do that too, i think |
Dec 12 22:12 |
| wispy |
lol roy |
Dec 12 22:12 |
| SubsonicB |
ok enough aboput geopolitics by now, guys |
Dec 12 22:13 |
| schestowitz |
venezuela ‘loves’ the US. *LOL* |
Dec 12 22:13 |
| wispy |
|
Dec 12 22:13 |
| schestowitz |
Perhaps the US should have liberat^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hvenezuela earlier for compliance through puppets |
Dec 12 22:13 |
| schestowitz |
The US has so far suppressed Cuba with an embargo, but didn’t replace the leaders with puppets that take orders from DC |
Dec 12 22:14 |
| wispy |
ha |
Dec 12 22:14 |
| schestowitz |
Okay, back to subject |
Dec 12 22:14 |
| wispy |
cuba is very involved with biotechnology |
Dec 12 22:14 |
| wispy |
one of the best in the world |
Dec 12 22:15 |
| SubsonicB |
The shock doctrine (the book I told you) shows how the US didexactly that in Latin America in the 70 and 80′s |
Dec 12 22:15 |
| wispy |
i did a paper on that |
Dec 12 22:15 |
| wispy |
in 11th grade |
Dec 12 22:15 |
| SubsonicB |
hehe |
Dec 12 22:15 |
| schestowitz |
http://stopsoftwarepatents.eu/361000346840/ |
Dec 12 22:15 |
| SubsonicB |
It’s on my email signature |
Dec 12 22:16 |
| wispy |
thanks |
Dec 12 22:16 |
| schestowitz |
Someone mailed me this |
Dec 12 22:17 |
| wispy |
so roy what’s up with the rms protest |
Dec 12 22:17 |
| schestowitz |
It’s months away |
Dec 12 22:18 |
| schestowitz |
I’m not sure what he’s up to |
Dec 12 22:18 |
| wispy |
oh so he didn’t tell you more about it |
Dec 12 22:18 |
| schestowitz |
http://bangalore.citizenmatters.in/articles/view/67… |
Dec 12 22:18 |
| schestowitz |
“Stallman to visit community computing centre” he’s traveling |
Dec 12 22:19 |
| wispy |
oh ok |
Dec 12 22:19 |
| wispy |
hi logger_bot |
Dec 12 22:20 |
| wispy |
 |
Dec 12 22:21 |
| schestowitz |
She’s unmanned |
Dec 12 22:22 |
| schestowitz |
logger_bot has not been touched for months |
Dec 12 22:22 |
| SubsonicB |
what? logger_bot? |
Dec 12 22:23 |
| SubsonicB |
has some word here activated carnivore? |
Dec 12 22:23 |
| schestowitz |
Yes |
Dec 12 22:23 |
| wispy |
hehe |
Dec 12 22:24 |
| SubsonicB |
>-D |
Dec 12 22:24 |
| wispy |
logger_bot is lonely |
Dec 12 22:24 |
| schestowitz |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivore_(FBI) |
Dec 12 22:24 |
| schestowitz |
I had to look that up |
Dec 12 22:24 |
| SubsonicB |
thats it! |
Dec 12 22:24 |
| schestowitz |
wispy: better lonely than suffering a downtime |
Dec 12 22:24 |
| wispy |
that’s cute |
Dec 12 22:25 |
| schestowitz |
had that happened, I’d need to go to work and reboot or seomthing. |
Dec 12 22:25 |
| wispy |
lol |
Dec 12 22:25 |
| wispy |
that’s a lot of trouble |
Dec 12 22:25 |
| schestowitz |
It happened in August when the hub died (physical error) |
Dec 12 22:25 |
| wispy |
she’s all better, i hope |
Dec 12 22:26 |
| schestowitz |
Welsh Tories ask taxpayers to pick up iPod tab < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12… > |
Dec 12 22:27 |
| schestowitz |
6000 more familiar withour a working parent: Contractors and managers hit in Alcatel-Lucent layoffs < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/12/alc… > |
Dec 12 22:29 |
| schestowitz |
*families without |
Dec 12 22:29 |
| wispy |
reminds me of the ipod tax in canada, kinda |
Dec 12 22:29 |
| wispy |
you know what that is, roy? |
Dec 12 22:30 |
| schestowitz |
Man trademarks  emoticon < http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/12/… > |
Dec 12 22:30 |
| schestowitz |
I trademark ;_) then |
Dec 12 22:31 |
| schestowitz |
trademark-jacking! Take dat! |
Dec 12 22:31 |
| wispy |
XD |
Dec 12 22:31 |
| schestowitz |
ipod? No. What it this? Sounds like a toy |
Dec 12 22:31 |
| wispy |
geez lol |
Dec 12 22:31 |
| wispy |
haha |
Dec 12 22:32 |
| schestowitz |
Tripod? |
Dec 12 22:32 |
| schestowitz |
Tripod tax? |
Dec 12 22:32 |
| wispy |
in canada to compensate for piracy, there’s an ipod tax |
Dec 12 22:32 |
| wispy |
on recordable media |
Dec 12 22:32 |
| wispy |
crazy |
Dec 12 22:32 |
| schestowitz |
Like if you photograph a tree or a car that you can’t photograph in the US? |
Dec 12 22:32 |
| wispy |
hehe |
Dec 12 22:33 |
| schestowitz |
wispy: yes, I know about that. |
Dec 12 22:33 |
| schestowitz |
Criminals by default |
Dec 12 22:33 |
| wispy |
|
Dec 12 22:33 |
| wispy |
mean |
Dec 12 22:33 |
| schestowitz |
But no ‘tax return’ |
Dec 12 22:33 |
| schestowitz |
Might as well tell people to copy illegally. They paid for it in advance. |
Dec 12 22:33 |
| wispy |
yeah haha |
Dec 12 22:33 |
| schestowitz |
if the RIAA comes knowing.. |
Dec 12 22:34 |
| schestowitz |
Tell them. I paid you before… you said I am a criminal, so I paid exta for my Ogg player |
Dec 12 22:34 |
| wispy |
they probably don’t know what .ogg is |
Dec 12 22:34 |
| wispy |
lol |
Dec 12 22:34 |
| SubsonicB |
in spain there is a tax to compensate for “piracy” on every device |
Dec 12 22:35 |
| wispy |
that’s not fair f |
Dec 12 22:35 |
| SubsonicB |
that’s it no “innocent until proved otherwise” anymore |
Dec 12 22:35 |
| wispy |
so true |
Dec 12 22:36 |
| wispy |
roy, have you tried the eee pc yet? |
Dec 12 22:36 |
| wispy |
it’s a cute little thing |
Dec 12 22:36 |
| schestowitz |
wispy: it’s good if they don’t know what ogg is. |
Dec 12 22:36 |
| wispy |
i want to… |
Dec 12 22:36 |
| SubsonicB |
i pay the “piracy” tax everytime i burn a Linux distro |
Dec 12 22:36 |
| schestowitz |
That’ll keep it safe from the hounds. |
Dec 12 22:36 |
| wispy |
yeah haha |
Dec 12 22:36 |
| schestowitz |
The music I get is legal |
Dec 12 22:36 |
| wispy |
jamendo is nice |
Dec 12 22:37 |
| SubsonicB |
no music is illegal! |
Dec 12 22:37 |
| SubsonicB |
notice how they manipulate the language to manipulate the mindsets! |
Dec 12 22:37 |
| *schestowitz listen to Al Fami: http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/al-… |
Dec 12 22:37 |
| wispy |
i learned about that in honors sociology; people from different cultures have different mindsets because of language |
Dec 12 22:38 |
| schestowitz |
I won’t touch a Intel notebook. I’d buy one if I don’t need to hand over money to critminals in the process. |
Dec 12 22:38 |
| wispy |
oh i didn’t know |
Dec 12 22:39 |
| wispy |
intel = bad? |
Dec 12 22:39 |
| schestowitz |
Yes |
Dec 12 22:39 |
| schestowitz |
http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/12/intel-ms-vs-go… |
Dec 12 22:39 |
| schestowitz |
Maybe the MPAA/RIAA is worse |
Dec 12 22:40 |
| schestowitz |
They control the media, so they control language |
Dec 12 22:40 |
| wispy |
uh oh, sounds scary |
Dec 12 22:40 |
| wispy |
thx for link |
Dec 12 22:40 |
| schestowitz |
People learn their lang/vocabulary from TV |
Dec 12 22:40 |
| schestowitz |
TV=MAFIAA |
Dec 12 22:40 |
| wispy |
sad but true |
Dec 12 22:41 |
| wispy |
i love to read |
Dec 12 22:41 |
| wispy |
i don’t even have a TV in my dorm |
Dec 12 22:41 |
| SubsonicB |
its interesting how closely intertwined companies/media/lobbies are |
Dec 12 22:41 |
| SubsonicB |
thats wise, wiskpy |
Dec 12 22:41 |
| wispy |
i gave my tv to my sister to take to college |
Dec 12 22:41 |
| wispy |
thanks! |
Dec 12 22:41 |
| SubsonicB |
wispy |
Dec 12 22:41 |
| SubsonicB |
i love to read |
Dec 12 22:42 |
| wispy |
ms is tied to nbc |
Dec 12 22:42 |
| wispy |
msnbc |
Dec 12 22:42 |
| wispy |
cool! |
Dec 12 22:42 |
| SubsonicB |
http://www.theyrule.net/2004/tr2.php |
Dec 12 22:42 |
| SubsonicB |
more and more everything is in the hands of a bunch of companies |
Dec 12 22:43 |
| wispy |
cool animation |
Dec 12 22:43 |
| schestowitz |
UK Police Want Magic ‘This Computer Is Used By A Criminal’ Alert Software < http://techdirt.com/articles/20081211… > |
Dec 12 22:43 |
| SubsonicB |
execs of these companies sit at the oards of many of them at the same time |
Dec 12 22:43 |
| schestowitz |
Even the BBC got corruptied by companies, but ironically enough, taxpayers fund it |
Dec 12 22:44 |
| wispy |
weird haha |
Dec 12 22:44 |
| schestowitz |
It’s like funding of propaganda by those who are brainwashed |
Dec 12 22:44 |
| schestowitz |
Not unusual at all |
Dec 12 22:44 |
| schestowitz |
Most products we buy include the price of adverts |
Dec 12 22:44 |
| wispy |
sheep don’t know it’s happening |
Dec 12 22:45 |
| schestowitz |
Which means we have lots of work done out there brainwashing us and /WE/ sponsor it |
Dec 12 22:45 |
| schestowitz |
There’s a lot ofg watse going into it |
Dec 12 22:45 |
| schestowitz |
More interestingly, the government took lessons from marketing literature. |
Dec 12 22:45 |
| schestowitz |
On how to change people’s perception (.e.g. with images, words, phrases) |
Dec 12 22:45 |
| SubsonicB |
mass control |
Dec 12 22:46 |
| SubsonicB |
control of population |
Dec 12 22:46 |
| wispy |
that software is not good for torrent and p2p users |
Dec 12 22:46 |
| schestowitz |
UK police: ‘We need crime breathalysers for PCs’ < http://www.silicon.com/publicsector/0,… > |
Dec 12 22:46 |
| SubsonicB |
If you look at the things we know about Microsoft |
Dec 12 22:46 |
| schestowitz |
You know what this means to GNU/Linux, right? |
Dec 12 22:46 |
| SubsonicB |
that the public cannot even believe |
Dec 12 22:46 |
| schestowitz |
First they illegalise some network utils like nmap |
Dec 12 22:47 |
| wispy |
|
Dec 12 22:47 |
| SubsonicB |
and extrapolate to other areas |
Dec 12 22:47 |
| schestowitz |
Now they follow the RIAA’s suggestion of spyware on every PC to police content |
Dec 12 22:47 |
| SubsonicB |
it is just scary how ignorant and uninformed we are kept |
Dec 12 22:47 |
| wispy |
ms is mean |
Dec 12 22:47 |
| schestowitz |
Do you know about the UK databases |
Dec 12 22:47 |
| SubsonicB |
that is what “palladium” was all about from the begginning |
Dec 12 22:47 |
| schestowitz |
They keep digital records of all phonecalls and E-mails sent |
Dec 12 22:47 |
| wispy |
i heard about that spyware, roy |
Dec 12 22:47 |
| schestowitz |
I hardly encrpy mine because people don’t have PGP installed, so I just sign it. |
Dec 12 22:48 |
| schestowitz |
SubsonicB: IBM supports that too, IIRC |
Dec 12 22:48 |
| wispy |
yeah i see your pgp stuff |
Dec 12 22:48 |
| schestowitz |
It’s about taking disconnected devices (old PCs) and making a sort of rental paradigm |
Dec 12 22:48 |
| schestowitz |
For music, for use, for access.. |
Dec 12 22:48 |
| schestowitz |
In China they can limit number of hours online |
Dec 12 22:49 |
| schestowitz |
But ISPs too can manage that easily. |
Dec 12 22:49 |
| wispy |
bandwith caps |
Dec 12 22:49 |
| wispy |
roy have you ever seen a zombie pc? |
Dec 12 22:50 |
| schestowitz |
Heh. Yes |
Dec 12 22:50 |
| schestowitz |
They are everywhere. |
Dec 12 22:50 |
| schestowitz |
Almost 1 in 2 Windows PCs is a zombie |
Dec 12 22:50 |
| schestowitz |
They just don’t know it (the users) |
Dec 12 22:50 |
| wispy |
yikes! |
Dec 12 22:51 |
| schestowitz |
98% of Windows PCs can be instantly turned to zombie, says Secunia |
Dec 12 22:51 |
| wispy |
how can you tell if you have one?? |
Dec 12 22:51 |
| schestowitz |
The FBI does this.. |
Dec 12 22:51 |
| schestowitz |
Hold on. |
Dec 12 22:51 |
| wispy |
brains!!! |
Dec 12 22:51 |
| schestowitz |
OT but interesting: http://beranger.org/index.php?page=diary&20… http://www.boingboing.net/2008/01/19/f… |
Dec 12 22:51 |
| schestowitz |
Zombie PC is another interesting use of language |
Dec 12 22:51 |
| SubsonicB |
the security feature on AMD chips is called “presidio” which in spanish is a synonym of “prision” |
Dec 12 22:52 |
| SubsonicB |
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archiv… |
Dec 12 22:52 |
| schestowitz |
Computer run remotely = monster that easts brains |
Dec 12 22:52 |
| schestowitz |
They should call it something like Zombows PC |
Dec 12 22:52 |
| schestowitz |
Or Zomblows |
Dec 12 22:52 |
| schestowitz |
As in Windows |
Dec 12 22:52 |
| wispy |
hehehe |
Dec 12 22:52 |
| wispy |
you’re funny  |
Dec 12 22:53 |
| schestowitz |
FBI ducks questions about its remotely installed spyware |
Dec 12 22:53 |
| schestowitz |
,—-[ Quote ] |
Dec 12 22:53 |
| schestowitz |
| There are plenty of unanswered questions about the FBI spyware that, as we |
Dec 12 22:53 |
| schestowitz |
| reported earlier this week, can be delivered over the Internet and implanted |
Dec 12 22:53 |
| schestowitz |
| in a suspect’s computer remotely. |
Dec 12 22:53 |
| schestowitz |
`—- |
Dec 12 22:53 |
| schestowitz |
http://news.com.com/8301… |
Dec 12 22:53 |
| SubsonicB |
combine it with geo-localization throuth mobile phones (remember RMS don’t use one due to this) and RFID technology |
Dec 12 22:53 |
| SubsonicB |
you have full human traceability |
Dec 12 22:53 |
| schestowitz |
Don’t forget the ACTA http://www.p2pnet.net/story/17088 Criminals in suits |
Dec 12 22:53 |
| wispy |
does rms use a web browser? |
Dec 12 22:53 |
| wispy |
i heard he doesnt |
Dec 12 22:53 |
| schestowitz |
They can’t control people, so they pass new laws to call more of them “criminals” |
Dec 12 22:53 |
| wispy |
thats wikkid |
Dec 12 22:54 |
| schestowitz |
wispy: no, he doesn’t |
Dec 12 22:54 |
| schestowitz |
He wgets pages remotely |
Dec 12 22:54 |
| wispy |
lol i thought so |
Dec 12 22:54 |
| schestowitz |
I just paste articles for him |
Dec 12 22:54 |
| SubsonicB |
What scares me is the NSA inserting such code into Free Software (they used to fund OpenBSD development) |
Dec 12 22:54 |
| schestowitz |
OGM copyrights!!!111111111 |
Dec 12 22:54 |
| wispy |
like no wai |
Dec 12 22:55 |
| wispy |
lol |
Dec 12 22:55 |
| schestowitz |
Just in: Forget The Economy, Security Vendor Says Cybercrime Is The Real Threat < http://techdirt.com/articles/20081210/10… > |
Dec 12 22:58 |
| schestowitz |
Downturn may turn techies to crime, say reports < http://news.zdnet.com/2424-9595_22-255464.html > |
Dec 12 22:59 |
| wispy |
bad news outweighs good news these days it seems |
Dec 12 23:00 |
| wispy |
i need a comfort hug |
Dec 12 23:00 |
| wispy |
lol |
Dec 12 23:00 |
| schestowitz |
Dana is provoking again: Is Google desperate in taking Chrome gold? < http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=3186 >. No, Google is no exception to others. |
Dec 12 23:02 |
| schestowitz |
Someone should remind Google where ti came from though. Total neglect of anything but shoddy non-UNIX spyware magnet |
Dec 12 23:03 |
| SubsonicB |
some good news: Slackware 12.2 is OUT! |
Dec 12 23:04 |
| wispy |
lol roy |
Dec 12 23:04 |
| wispy |
have you tried slax, sub? |
Dec 12 23:04 |
| schestowitz |
McCain Sells Out < http://www.pcworld.com/topics/gaming.html > . Who says there’s no $$ in politics? |
Dec 12 23:06 |
| schestowitz |
Maybe John can kill the turkey while Sarah poses for the camera |
Dec 12 23:06 |
| schestowitz |
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=z-kjM1asH-8 |
Dec 12 23:06 |
| wispy |
i saw that |
Dec 12 23:08 |
| wispy |
i wish she’d go away, though |
Dec 12 23:08 |
| wispy |
she’s annoying! |
Dec 12 23:08 |
| SubsonicB |
roy, has Bill Gates finally switched to Slackware? http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/… |
Dec 12 23:09 |
| schestowitz |
Many people read Bn today |
Dec 12 23:09 |
| schestowitz |
I don’t know why |
Dec 12 23:09 |
| SubsonicB |
hasn’t he? |
Dec 12 23:09 |
| schestowitz |
I didn’t even do many posts ( SubsonicB’s was the main feature) |
Dec 12 23:09 |
| wispy |
i didn’t see subsonic’s post |
Dec 12 23:09 |
| wispy |
where is it?? |
Dec 12 23:09 |
| schestowitz |
Oh, that’s MicrosoftJack |
Dec 12 23:09 |
| SubsonicB |
no big deal |
Dec 12 23:09 |
| schestowitz |
Microsoft open source. |
Dec 12 23:10 |
| wispy |
oh that, ok |
Dec 12 23:10 |
| SubsonicB |
anyone with a clue on what is going on with M$ vs FOSS knows it |
Dec 12 23:10 |
| wispy |
lol subsonic @ the link |
Dec 12 23:10 |
| SubsonicB |
hehe |
Dec 12 23:10 |
| SubsonicB |
Bill G. is a sub-genius in that photo! |
Dec 12 23:11 |
| schestowitz |
http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/28214/ |
Dec 12 23:11 |
| wispy |
weird styles in the ’70s |
Dec 12 23:11 |
| SubsonicB |
>-D |
Dec 12 23:11 |
| wispy |
thx |
Dec 12 23:12 |
| SubsonicB |
the OIN patent pool somehw legitimises the existence of software patents IMHO |
Dec 12 23:13 |
| schestowitz |
Yes |
Dec 12 23:13 |
| schestowitz |
And we’re supposed to accept this for now. |
Dec 12 23:13 |
| SubsonicB |
legitimises the US broken patent system |
Dec 12 23:13 |
| schestowitz |
That’s IBM |
Dec 12 23:13 |
| schestowitz |
zoobab knows. |
Dec 12 23:14 |
| SubsonicB |
i dont like it eihter |
Dec 12 23:14 |
| schestowitz |
I’ll write about it over the weekend. |
Dec 12 23:14 |
| SubsonicB |
it feels like Novellsoft pact in a way |
Dec 12 23:14 |
| schestowitz |
I also have an interview to publish. |
Dec 12 23:14 |
| wispy |
cool roy |
Dec 12 23:14 |
| wispy |
all of this for us |
Dec 12 23:14 |
| schestowitz |
“Look at http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/linux911.php Hilarious! “ |
Dec 12 23:14 |
| SubsonicB |
i wonder what is the role of Bilski in all this |
Dec 12 23:14 |
| schestowitz |
Now we fight corrupt lawyers and suit using some animated batmobile thingie. |
Dec 12 23:15 |
| wispy |
lmao |
Dec 12 23:15 |
| schestowitz |
Watch it |
Dec 12 23:15 |
| schestowitz |
I’m sure Ballmer shivers in his boots. |
Dec 12 23:15 |
| schestowitz |
Tux in Gotham City |
Dec 12 23:16 |
| wispy |
so cute! |
Dec 12 23:16 |
| schestowitz |
That’s bad. |
Dec 12 23:16 |
| schestowitz |
This is serious crime |
Dec 12 23:16 |
| schestowitz |
No place for jokes. |
Dec 12 23:16 |
| wispy |
lol sry |
Dec 12 23:16 |
| schestowitz |
OK, except a few jokes… http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/… |
Dec 12 23:16 |
| schestowitz |
Some people don’t get the refrence.. see the commenrts. |
Dec 12 23:17 |
| schestowitz |
The original says “Do <X> or I kill this puppy” |
Dec 12 23:17 |
| wispy |
i saw that, some people need a sense of humor |
Dec 12 23:17 |
| wispy |
ugh |
Dec 12 23:17 |
| schestowitz |
Because images are memorable I remind people that Intel is EVIL, which it ios. |
Dec 12 23:17 |
| wispy |
yeah lol |
Dec 12 23:17 |
| SubsonicB |
don’t bother |
Dec 12 23:17 |
| SubsonicB |
for your resident microtrolls any excuse is good enough to make ad-hominem attacks |
Dec 12 23:18 |
| schestowitz |
I know, I know.. |
Dec 12 23:18 |
| schestowitz |
I have a better one. |
Dec 12 23:18 |
| schestowitz |
http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/u… |
Dec 12 23:19 |
| wispy |
hahaha! |
Dec 12 23:19 |
| wispy |
roy you’re so silly |
Dec 12 23:19 |
| schestowitz |
Think of a funny one for Sisco |
Dec 12 23:20 |
| schestowitz |
They were asked for a long time to comply |
Dec 12 23:20 |
| schestowitz |
But they carried on leeching |
Dec 12 23:20 |
| schestowitz |
Leechco? No.. |
Dec 12 23:20 |
| schestowitz |
Cystco? |
Dec 12 23:20 |
| MinceR |
Diseaseco |
Dec 12 23:21 |
| wispy |
hi mince! |
Dec 12 23:21 |
| schestowitz |
Do they infect though? |
Dec 12 23:21 |
| schestowitz |
With wispy, it’s no longer a gentlemen’s club. |
Dec 12 23:21 |
| wispy |
hehe ^_^ |
Dec 12 23:21 |
| schestowitz |
Ciscomply? |
Dec 12 23:23 |
| schestowitz |
in-Cisco-mplanince |
Dec 12 23:23 |
| MinceR |
i like Cystco |
Dec 12 23:23 |
| schestowitz |
Cancerous or benign? |
Dec 12 23:23 |
| schestowitz |
http://www.computeruser.com/articl… “Cisco may have a monopoly, but is it monopolist?” |
Dec 12 23:24 |
| MinceR |
obviously cancerous |
Dec 12 23:24 |
| schestowitz |
“Cisco’s habit of acquiring new companies generates speculation that its position is not only one of a de facto monopoly, but that it uses its position to stifle competition. Many feel that speculation is accurate. “ |
Dec 12 23:24 |
| schestowitz |
They bought Jabber |
Dec 12 23:24 |
| schestowitz |
Then got sued for GPL snub |
Dec 12 23:24 |
| MinceR |
(and Diseaseco would be D-Cisco, but that might not be obvious enough) |
Dec 12 23:25 |
| schestowitz |
Nice, eh? |
Dec 12 23:25 |
| MinceR |
hm |
Dec 12 23:25 |
| MinceR |
http://bellini.blog.hu/2008/12/10/l… |
Dec 12 23:25 |
| SubsonicB |
let me shoot the gimp for 5 minutes… |
Dec 12 23:25 |
| MinceR |
“Fiasco Systems” |
Dec 12 23:25 |
| schestowitz |
“The U.S. government’s case against Microsoft frequently generates strong emotional responses. There are some people who feel that Microsoft acted as a monopoly and stifled competition, but that legal action against it is too late; the desktop operating system is losing importance as the Internet becomes predominant.” |
Dec 12 23:25 |
| schestowitz |
No Google? |
Dec 12 23:25 |
| schestowitz |
“Cisco, however, is lodged near the heart of the Internet. If government regulatory groups are encouraged by the results of the Microsoft antitrust suit, it would not be surprising to see them turn their attention toward Cisco.” |
Dec 12 23:25 |
| schestowitz |
SubsonicB: thanks. |
Dec 12 23:26 |
| schestowitz |
Bellini? |
Dec 12 23:26 |
| schestowitz |
The ‘oracle’ eco-hax0r? |
Dec 12 23:26 |
| wispy |
schestowitz: you’re a hax0r, too lol. with c++ |
Dec 12 23:27 |
| schestowitz |
But this is what I had in mind: http://www.rdwarf.com/users/kioh/ |
Dec 12 23:28 |
| wispy |
haha |
Dec 12 23:28 |
| schestowitz |
They know what they do, don’t worry… they’ve only just exceeded 10.5 trillion in debt. The Federal Reserve says “buy” |
Dec 12 23:29 |
| schestowitz |
Can’t buy? Borrow. Drive the economy. Drive GM. Take it to the garage after 10 miles. |
Dec 12 23:30 |
| schestowitz |
http://m.blog.hu/be/bellini/image/folder/L… |
Dec 12 23:30 |
| schestowitz |
http://m.blog.hu/be/bellini/image/fol… Esdel 2.0 |
Dec 12 23:31 |
| schestowitz |
*Adsel |
Dec 12 23:31 |
| schestowitz |
*Edsel (gah! |
Dec 12 23:31 |
| wispy |
pwned |
Dec 12 23:31 |
| MinceR |
if GM tanks, i’ll feel sorry for the Chevrolet Volt though |
Dec 12 23:31 |
| wispy |
big three loses |
Dec 12 23:31 |
| wispy |
lol roy |
Dec 12 23:31 |
| schestowitz |
Mercedes does some electric car mockiups now |
Dec 12 23:31 |
| schestowitz |
It was in The Register this afternoon. |
Dec 12 23:32 |
| wispy |
hope it’s not some trend and that they are serious about this |
Dec 12 23:32 |
| wispy |
going green should be a serious effort |
Dec 12 23:32 |
| schestowitz |
Bush helps |
Dec 12 23:33 |
| wispy |
really?! |
Dec 12 23:33 |
| schestowitz |
Without animals, there would be nothing hiding the plants. Environmentalists blast changes to Endangered Species rules < http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/12/12/endang… > |
Dec 12 23:34 |
| wispy |
poor animals :’( |
Dec 12 23:34 |
| schestowitz |
Rep logic: kill animals, help green^H^H^H^H^HVILISA~1 |
Dec 12 23:34 |
| schestowitz |
People are taught to love money |
Dec 12 23:35 |
| schestowitz |
Green energy and greed are like water and sand |
Dec 12 23:35 |
| wispy |
grrrrr |
Dec 12 23:35 |
| schestowitz |
As long as the oil companies educate the kids, civilisation is doomed. |
Dec 12 23:35 |
| wispy |
we must save endangered animals like this cute one: http://fluffyflowers.typepad.com/photos/u… |
Dec 12 23:35 |
| schestowitz |
/s/oil/<any affluent sector>/ |
Dec 12 23:35 |
| schestowitz |
Homo sapients too might be extinct one day, hopefully not in my lifetime. |
Dec 12 23:36 |
| wispy |
yeah that would be scary |
Dec 12 23:36 |
| schestowitz |
A Professor biologist I’m friends with says so |
Dec 12 23:36 |
| SubsonicB |
we think the man is the summit of the evolution |
Dec 12 23:37 |
| SubsonicB |
the truth is that we are too stupid to last |
Dec 12 23:37 |
| wispy |
nobody listens to scientists, it’s sad |
Dec 12 23:37 |
| PetoKraus |
tell me about it |
Dec 12 23:37 |
| SubsonicB |
bacteriae have been upon the earth since 2000 million years ago |
Dec 12 23:38 |
| wispy |
reminds me of how nobody cares about the opinions of geologists before a volcanic disaster and fail to evacuate |
Dec 12 23:38 |
| SubsonicB |
and have survived so far |
Dec 12 23:38 |
| SubsonicB |
they are much smarter than us |
Dec 12 23:38 |
| PetoKraus |
they are dying quite fast though |
Dec 12 23:38 |
| PetoKraus |
if they weren’t earth’s mass would double in 18 minutes |
Dec 12 23:38 |
| schestowitz |
Dinosaurs once roamed the earth |
Dec 12 23:38 |
| schestowitz |
They ate each other |
Dec 12 23:38 |
| wispy |
lol |
Dec 12 23:39 |
| SubsonicB |
heh |
Dec 12 23:39 |
| SubsonicB |
>-D |
Dec 12 23:39 |
| PetoKraus |
t-rex t-bone steak |
Dec 12 23:39 |
| schestowitz |
Lots of bone left |
Dec 12 23:39 |
| wispy |
yum yum! |
Dec 12 23:39 |
| schestowitz |
Leftovers underground. |
Dec 12 23:40 |
| wispy |
lol pk |
Dec 12 23:40 |
| schestowitz |
Sounds like sellng snake oil |
Dec 12 23:40 |
| schestowitz |
Some people would believe that |
Dec 12 23:40 |
| PetoKraus |
this environmental chemistry is really getting on my nerves |
Dec 12 23:40 |
| wispy |
heh roy |
Dec 12 23:40 |
| schestowitz |
The waiter comes iver and tells the couple about the recent excavation that brought dino beef. |
Dec 12 23:40 |
| schestowitz |
$500 per serving. |
Dec 12 23:40 |
| wispy |
ewwww~ |
Dec 12 23:41 |
| PetoKraus |
contains: soya |
Dec 12 23:41 |
| schestowitz |
(turns out it’s just ox) |
Dec 12 23:41 |
| wispy |
yuck! |
Dec 12 23:41 |
| PetoKraus |
have you actually HAD an ox? |
Dec 12 23:41 |
| wispy |
nope |
Dec 12 23:41 |
| schestowitz |
SubsonicB: do they serve err… genitalia of err… cattle over there? |
Dec 12 23:41 |
| PetoKraus |
every time i eat scottish pie i am thinking of |
Dec 12 23:41 |
| schestowitz |
I once went to a Chinese rsestaurant. |
Dec 12 23:42 |
| wispy |
lol roy |
Dec 12 23:42 |
| schestowitz |
They serves chicken legs… not wings… legs… |
Dec 12 23:42 |
| PetoKraus |
poor old sheep who’d been minced in the mutton… |
Dec 12 23:42 |
| schestowitz |
I could haerly touch the thing. |
Dec 12 23:42 |
| schestowitz |
*hardly |
Dec 12 23:42 |
| wispy |
chicken legs are so scrawny though |
Dec 12 23:42 |
| PetoKraus |
man, let’s start with haggis |
Dec 12 23:42 |
| wispy |
poor baby sheep |
Dec 12 23:42 |
| SubsonicB |
yes, but I never tried it |
Dec 12 23:42 |
| SubsonicB |
http://subsonica.blogsome.com//… |
Dec 12 23:42 |
| PetoKraus |
sheep’s stomach miced with oats and cooked in… sheep’s stomach! |
Dec 12 23:42 |
| schestowitz |
*LOL* |
Dec 12 23:43 |
| wispy |
X( |
Dec 12 23:43 |
| schestowitz |
SubsonicB: did you just do it? |
Dec 12 23:43 |
| *neighborlee_ (n=neighbor@unaffiliated/neighborlee) has joined #boycottnovell |
Dec 12 23:43 |
| SubsonicB |
yep |
Dec 12 23:43 |
| schestowitz |
Cool! |
Dec 12 23:43 |
| schestowitz |
GIMP artist.. |
Dec 12 23:43 |
| SubsonicB |
very easy |
Dec 12 23:43 |
| wispy |
i can’t see it :9 |
Dec 12 23:43 |
| wispy |
|
Dec 12 23:43 |
| wispy |
forbidden |
Dec 12 23:43 |
| schestowitz |
Will you use it? |
Dec 12 23:43 |
| schestowitz |
Maybe I should add it yo your post |
Dec 12 23:44 |
| SubsonicB |
http://subsonica.blogsome.com/… |
Dec 12 23:44 |
| SubsonicB |
wispy give it another try |
Dec 12 23:44 |
| wispy |
oh thanks! |
Dec 12 23:44 |
| wispy |
hehe |
Dec 12 23:44 |
| PetoKraus |
then if you move to slovakia, you get all those nice things upon slaying pork, such as “sausages” made of blood, rice, and meat (mainly bowels), packed in intestines |
Dec 12 23:44 |
| PetoKraus |
delicious, i can tell |
Dec 12 23:44 |
| SubsonicB |
the message is not very clear |
Dec 12 23:44 |
| wispy |
heh pk |
Dec 12 23:44 |
| SubsonicB |
who is telling “join us” |
Dec 12 23:44 |
| wispy |
the dark side |
Dec 12 23:45 |
| SubsonicB |
is it “Microsoft” who speaks or is the empire telling microsoft to join? |
Dec 12 23:45 |
| wispy |
i think it’s ms |
Dec 12 23:45 |
| SubsonicB |
Darth Bald-mer |
Dec 12 23:45 |
| PetoKraus |
that’s a good idea |
Dec 12 23:45 |
| PetoKraus |
add sweat patches |
Dec 12 23:45 |
| wispy |
ahhhhh! :hides: |
Dec 12 23:46 |
| schestowitz |
Added: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/12/micr… |
Dec 12 23:46 |
| wispy |
lol nice |
Dec 12 23:46 |
| SubsonicB |
george lucas will sue us |
Dec 12 23:46 |
| wispy |
i think parody is okay |
Dec 12 23:47 |
| SubsonicB |
hope so |
Dec 12 23:47 |
| schestowitz |
http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/up… |
Dec 12 23:47 |
| wispy |
i learned that in my law class |
Dec 12 23:47 |
| wispy |
hehe |
Dec 12 23:47 |
| SubsonicB |
i did another one about star wars do you remember Lando de Icaza? |
Dec 12 23:48 |
| schestowitz |
See the URL (second |
Dec 12 23:48 |
| schestowitz |
I published it a second time too (can’t remember which post |
Dec 12 23:48 |
| SubsonicB |
you were faster! |
Dec 12 23:48 |
| wispy |
i saw that before in a post, roy |
Dec 12 23:49 |
| PetoKraus |
schestowitz: cheers for posting that guantanamo thing. I know it’s not in the scope, but people should know |
Dec 12 23:49 |
| SubsonicB |
PetoK i missed it doy you have the url at hand? |
Dec 12 23:49 |
| PetoKraus |
http://www.msnbc.msn.co… |
Dec 12 23:51 |
| schestowitz |
SubsonicB: yes, hold oin |
Dec 12 23:51 |
| schestowitz |
Oh, PK beat me to it |
Dec 12 23:51 |
| SubsonicB |
thanks |
Dec 12 23:51 |
| schestowitz |
MSSSSSSSS – NBC …….. Microsoft… and some ‘new’ network attached to it |
Dec 12 23:51 |
| PetoKraus |
McColo? |
Dec 12 23:53 |
| schestowitz |
Mscolo |
Dec 12 23:54 |
| schestowitz |
New licence from Microsoft |
Dec 12 23:54 |
| schestowitz |
It enabled you to hijack 40% of the world’s PCs and spew 150 billion SPAM from them, per day (real figures BTW) |
Dec 12 23:55 |
| wispy |
that much?! |
Dec 12 23:55 |
| schestowitz |
Yes |
Dec 12 23:55 |
| schestowitz |
320 million PCs |
Dec 12 23:55 |
| wispy |
use gmail, there’s way less spam |
Dec 12 23:55 |
| schestowitz |
Says USA Today |
Dec 12 23:55 |
| schestowitz |
Some say it’s more, some say less |
Dec 12 23:55 |
| wispy |
ok lol |
Dec 12 23:55 |
| schestowitz |
It’s a worse issue than some economic ones |
Dec 12 23:56 |
| wispy |
we need a confidence interval |
Dec 12 23:56 |
| PetoKraus |
it’s funny though |
Dec 12 23:56 |
| wispy |
between x and y |
Dec 12 23:56 |
| PetoKraus |
i opened my hotmail account after a year from signing up for it, for the first time. There was greeting email and email from a friend (that’s why i was opening the mailbox) |
Dec 12 23:56 |
| PetoKraus |
week later, 20+ spam mails |
Dec 12 23:56 |
| MinceR |
the google fail spam filter fails |
Dec 12 23:57 |
| wispy |
i never used hotmail |
Dec 12 23:57 |
| wispy |
gmail all the way |
Dec 12 23:57 |
| MinceR |
spamassassin ftw |
Dec 12 23:57 |
| schestowitz |
I used to get thousands of spam per day |
Dec 12 23:57 |
| wispy |
what?! |
Dec 12 23:57 |
| schestowitz |
Now I just send it to /dev/null |
Dec 12 23:57 |
| schestowitz |
And boxtrapper |
Dec 12 23:58 |
| wispy |
haha the black hole |
Dec 12 23:58 |
| PetoKraus |
i’m in range of hundreds |
Dec 12 23:58 |
| schestowitz |
Unless the address is precise. |
Dec 12 23:58 |
| wispy |
i get about 1 a month |
Dec 12 23:58 |
| wispy |
nyah nyah |
Dec 12 23:58 |
| schestowitz |
I once missed important mails |
Dec 12 23:58 |
| schestowitz |
For example, I bother checking the mess that’s a boxtrapper queue |
Dec 12 23:58 |
| PetoKraus |
the most of my spam comes trough the university mail, though |
Dec 12 23:58 |
| schestowitz |
I can’t read it, but I scan patterns like names and “Linux” |
Dec 12 23:59 |
| PetoKraus |
they’re using novell netware |
Dec 12 23:59 |
| schestowitz |
Then I found out Google wanted to recruit me. |
Dec 12 23:59 |
| PetoKraus |
+ Windows XP… |
Dec 12 23:59 |
| wispy |
good idea roy |
Dec 12 23:59 |
| SubsonicB |
I used hotmail for some time |
Dec 12 23:59 |
| schestowitz |
Almost lost that one and I’m sure many others are lost |
Dec 12 23:59 |
| schestowitz |
But it’s too much work recovering them |
Dec 12 23:59 |
| wispy |
yeah my school uses XP too |
Dec 12 23:59 |
| schestowitz |
Liek 15 minutes per message maybe. |
Dec 12 23:59 |
| wispy |
roy will you work for google? |
Dec 12 23:59 |
| SubsonicB |
I started back when it wasn’t bought by microsoft yet |
Dec 12 23:59 |
| schestowitz |
wispy: no |
Dec 12 23:59 |
| PetoKraus |
yeah, it was my first mail account as well |
Dec 12 23:59 |
| PetoKraus |
then i moved to gmail and stayed ever since |
Dec 12 23:59 |
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